Forum logs for 02 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

williamdunne	Seems extreme	[00:01]
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trinque	williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask	[00:04]
williamdunne	I'm not entirely sure what he said means, but it didn't sound that disrespectful	[00:04]
trinque	I heard "fuck you" "gpg isn't that important" and "this place isn't that important"	[00:05]
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trinque	this aside, decrypting a message from assbot takes far less time than his protestations that "it's pointless!"	[00:05]
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*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[08:47]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[08:47]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014	[08:47]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice.	[08:47]
mircea_popescu	copypaste heh yeah some ddosing.	[08:47]
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mircea_popescu	copypaste heh yeah, there's some kid figures himself hot stuff	[08:48]
mircea_popescu	buys a little ddos now and again when his allowance allows.	[08:48]
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mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/	[08:50]
deedbot-	Bad URL or network outage.	[08:50]
jurov	deedbot doesn't do html	[08:51]
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mircea_popescu	aha yeah. ima fix it in a sec	[08:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00033128 = 8.8783 BTC [-] {2}	[08:52]
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jurov	i spent hours roaming the landscape and searching for anything to pick up.. not very impressive first impression	[08:58]
Jezzz	joecool joesmoe JPT Jrum julmac jurov	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	you gotta explore jurov	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	as in /explore	[09:00]
jurov	it says i don't have skill for that	[09:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00033756 = 6.6499 BTC [+]	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	ah, there's an item hidden around that gives the skill for that	[09:01]
jurov	lol	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	too well hidden huh ? :D	[09:01]
jurov	i keep finding only chicken scribbles and mysterious stones	[09:02]
jurov	and other kinds of stones	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	there's another one :D	[09:07]
jurov	where? underwater?	[09:11]
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chetty	just checked the db to be sure, there are indeed another item out there...but I suppose I should go actually look	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	nah, overland	[09:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00032677 = 8.0385 BTC [-]	[09:14]
jurov	another mysterious rock.. i give up, will exchange for whatever exploring skill	[09:20]
jurov	if that item is supposed to be ceramic, maybe i don't see it	[09:22]
jurov	crystalspace.maploader.parse.image:	[09:22]
jurov	Could not open image file 'ceramic_dds' on VFS!	[09:22]
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BingoBoingo	jurov: Interested in reviewing the Eulora beta for qntra?	[09:27]
jurov	i'd prefer not to. i want it to succeed.	[09:28]
jurov	i'd be like "everyone keeps telling me to /explore but i could not find in 3 hours the item that enables it"	[09:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00033787 = 14.3933 BTC [+] {2}	[09:30]
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BingoBoingo	!up pete_dushenski	[09:34]
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mircea_popescu	jurov reports are in : the item's there alright.	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	before you find it, you can still craft	[09:35]
mircea_popescu	but you'll have to buy shiot from merchant to get you started	[09:35]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51550 @ 0.00032785 = 16.9007 BTC [-] {2}	[09:40]
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*	pete_dushenski is home again.	[09:43]
pete_dushenski	thanks be to all who !up'd me while away !	[09:43]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/0FW45QS << the involved ips, if anyone cares.	[09:47]
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williamdunne	Involved in testing Eurola?	[09:50]
mircea_popescu	involved in ddosing mah server earlier	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	what copypaste reported.	[09:51]
williamdunne	Ah that makes more sense	[09:51]
williamdunne	Seemed like too many	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	moving on to step two of my day, breakfast! after which ima make more eulora accts, mike_c danielpbarron an who else wanted.	[09:52]
pete_dushenski	"Popescu you're the dumbest fuck on the planet and have no authority to call anyone else an idiot." << quite the saucy qntra commenter	[09:56]
pete_dushenski	NO AUTHORITAY!11	[09:56]
pete_dushenski	one can only imagine who said dumbfuck imagines qualified to call others idiots	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	well at least this one can spell.	[09:57]
mircea_popescu	http://qntra.net/2015/05/ross-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/#comment-25515 << lots of angry on the interwebs. who knew.	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	(other than any woman over 20)	[09:59]
pete_dushenski	women over 20 are calmer ?	[10:00]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150845 << heh. 'el minimo...'	[10:00]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 02:59:59; trinque: williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask	[10:00]
mircea_popescu	no, just, if they try and date they're gonna meet 'em	[10:00]
pete_dushenski	fair enough	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	ask anyone. "impotent anger, #1 red flag".	[10:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39299 @ 0.00033202 = 13.0481 BTC [+]	[10:03]
jurov	from #eulora: nah just wait a minute or so, death hasnt really been implemented yet	[10:03]
jurov	hahahaha	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	jurov dja have any idea how sadpuppies anyone'd have been if i implemented death before marriage ?	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	not even irl god has that rotten a sense o humor.	[10:04]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150578 << solid little tour !	[10:04]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 01:01:40; williamdunne: I'm pretty fucking excited, Bucharest -> Prague -> Istanbul is gonna be fun	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	those aren't in order are they ?	[10:04]
jurov	really, this needs much more time to be able to grasp the game idea and write something positive	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	anyway, istanbul's great, prague's fulla sluts and therefore greater. bucharest... whatevs.	[10:04]
pete_dushenski	of those 3, prague definitely has the best womenz	[10:05]
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*	mircea_popescu prefers the turkish 35lb butt to the czech slender type	[10:06]
pete_dushenski	prague and istanbul both have fantastic food, bucharest is meh in this regard as well	[10:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87550 @ 0.00033824 = 29.6129 BTC [+] {2}	[10:07]
pete_dushenski	romanian women would be right in between the bubblebutturks and the skinnyczechs	[10:07]
pete_dushenski	more skeptical in their disposition too	[10:07]
pete_dushenski	which can only lead to better conversation	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	they can curse better than either	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	THAT can lead to excellent conversation	[10:08]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3TCDRSQ.txt	[10:09]
pete_dushenski	i'd say romanian chicks are just sharper in general	[10:09]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	this may well be true	[10:10]
*	mircea_popescu is happy with the quality of female.ro intellect	[10:10]
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pete_dushenski	from all the ones i've come across, an admittedly smaller but still far from zero quantity, female.ro is right up there with the best of 'em	[10:12]
pete_dushenski	for intellect.	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	course you probably stuck to the danube plain, where all the garbage ends up.	[10:12]
mod6	Update: full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 326594	[10:13]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[10:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 182200 @ 0.00034148 = 62.2177 BTC [+] {8}	[10:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3251 @ 0.00033202 = 1.0794 BTC [-]	[10:17]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: i'm talking mostly about the ones that've made their way to canada	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	aok	[10:20]
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pete_dushenski	plus, when i was in romania, i was in sinaia, brasov, timisoara, and a few other places, not just danube :)	[10:21]
pete_dushenski	speaking of traveling, fuck me if i don't have four sets of friends who just got engaged in the last month or two	[10:23]
pete_dushenski	if another one of them has a wedding at the same time as $conference....	[10:23]
pete_dushenski	c4, that is.	[10:23]
BingoBoingo	pete_dushenski: Well, warn them nao	[10:23]
pete_dushenski	and spoil the look on their face when i tell them that something in the world might be more important than their wedding ?	[10:25]
pete_dushenski	"One way to un-cast the Islamic State’s spell over its adherents would be to overpower it militarily and occupy the parts of Syria and Iraq now under caliphate rule. Al‑Qaeda is ineradicable because it can survive, cockroach-like, by going underground. The Islamic State cannot. If it loses its grip on its territory in Syria and Iraq, it will cease to be a caliphate. Caliphates cannot exist as underground mov	[10:26]
pete_dushenski	ements, because territorial authority is a requirement: take away its command of territory, and all those oaths of allegiance are no longer binding. Former pledges could of course continue to attack the West and behead their enemies, as freelancers. But the propaganda value of the caliphate would disappear, and with it the supposed religious duty to immigrate and serve it.	[10:26]
pete_dushenski	^seriously, where do people get these swiss cheese heads ?	[10:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29352 @ 0.00032677 = 9.5914 BTC [-]	[10:27]
pete_dushenski	isis is no more capable of being destroyed by the usa's excuse for a military than al-queda was	[10:27]
pete_dushenski	fuck, al-queda should've been a walk in the park by comparison.	[10:27]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski roflmao. "one way to stop sucking would be to rule instead"	[10:28]
jurov	they're more like taleban	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	you don't fucking say...	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	anyway, for the record, the only cockroaches in the middle west are the americans atm.	[10:28]
pete_dushenski	middle east ?	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	their underground being made up out of random social media	[10:28]
pete_dushenski	not that midwest isn't also full of 'em	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	well yeah.	[10:29]
mircea_popescu	anyway, who the fuck came up with the territorial nonsense quoited above anyway ?	[10:29]
pete_dushenski	http://gcaw.net/ << graeme wood in an article for 'the atlantic'	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	you'd think people actuaslly involved in strategic planning have enough of a tin ear to hear the sort of "o noes, things aren't like we have emotionally invested ourselves into them being, let us rehash how trhings shjould be so we don't have to change or even examine our priors" whine.	[10:30]
pete_dushenski	http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	territory's not worth squat. bitcoin, tmsr~ does actually better than any known state PRECISELY because all its territory is virtual.	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	territory was important when the economy was based on working the land.	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	then the industrial revolution came, and england was the size of a cumsplotch, and it didn't matter.	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	today...	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	heh, why do i even bother.	[10:31]
pete_dushenski	keep going !	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	lol	[10:32]
*	assbot gives voice to nubbins`	[10:32]
nubbins`	more like slowassbot	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	find me a state in the history of the world that can run the sort of deficits we run.	[10:32]
nubbins`	my timely quip is no longer timely	[10:32]
decimation	can't eat a digital biscuit	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	slownubs ?	[10:32]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: heh.	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	decimation you know this is what people said too ? "can't eat an iron sword"	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	yeah dude, you can. and it's your choice to either feed me or eat it. how about that.	[10:33]
pete_dushenski	mp hungry.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	i can't eat a digital biscuit, meanwhile you go make someone shove pens in his butt, without the digital biscuit.	[10:33]
nubbins`	so i just got this in an email from my isp	[10:34]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/3C9GNZW.png	[10:34]
*	nubbins` golf claps	[10:34]
decimation	the surplus of bitcoin failed to help dpr	[10:34]
nubbins`	graphs are non-accurate tho	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	100 mb, not so bad.	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	decimation and the pretorian guard failed to help nero.	[10:34]
pete_dushenski	decimation: it's necessary but not sufficient	[10:34]
nubbins`	mild panic this past winter when i realized the obstruction my metal snow shovel wouldn't pound through was... fibre into the house	[10:35]
nubbins`	but it was ok!	[10:35]
pete_dushenski	dpr lacked surplus of intelligence in other regards	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	they're reinforced to hell precisely because of people like you.	[10:35]
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nubbins`	well, you're welcome	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	lol	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	srsly, for about 10 years it was like "omfg world please stop cutting cables"	[10:35]
nubbins`	guy asked me if i wanted fibre to the pole or the door	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	world went "sorrieh!!1s"	[10:35]
mircea_popescu	eventually it was "fuck this shit, we make them as tough as pipes"	[10:36]
nubbins`	"is it any extra fee to bring it to the door?" "nope" "what kinda beer do you drink?"	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	suddenly... 99% drop in accidental cuttings	[10:36]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: what modem do you have ?	[10:36]
nubbins`	pete it's an "actiontech" or smth	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	the modem not the hot tub	[10:36]
nubbins`	actiontec	[10:37]
pete_dushenski	i'm in the market for a new modem. don't want to swallow whatever cisco garbage shaw cable provides	[10:37]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski pogo.	[10:37]
*	pete_dushenski hadn't considered this...	[10:37]
nubbins`	actually sorry	[10:39]
nubbins`	here's where the fibre ends	[10:39]
nubbins`	http://www.muamat.com/adpics/53627a873210bc5d72fa8a32a.jpg	[10:39]
nubbins`	it's an i-240g-b	[10:39]
nubbins`	hm, apparently this actiontec router might be worth tossing	[10:40]
pete_dushenski	a neato	[10:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17939 @ 0.00032139 = 5.7654 BTC [-]	[10:41]
pete_dushenski	http://www.hitrontech.com/en/cable_detail.php?id=62 << this appears to be local cable co's new offering	[10:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7311 @ 0.00032061 = 2.344 BTC [-]	[10:45]
scoopbot_revived	Elonis Wins At US Supreme Court http://qntra.net/2015/06/elonis-wins-at-us-supreme-court/	[10:45]
williamdunne	Scoopbot is behaving well	[10:45]
BingoBoingo	For now	[10:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22948 @ 0.00032308 = 7.414 BTC [+] {3}	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne yeah not bad	[10:47]
williamdunne	Yeah, think he last went down maybe two weeks ago?	[10:47]
williamdunne	Guessing the new reconnecting stuff actually works	[10:47]
*	BingoBoingo still has the expectation that scooping bots go rogue	[10:47]
BingoBoingo	Like Deeding bots go missing	[10:47]
*	williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot	[10:47]
BingoBoingo	And assbot makes the world go round	[10:48]
BingoBoingo	* williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot << Oh, that's how oglafbot works	[10:48]
williamdunne	Aha really? Thats kinda funny	[10:48]
williamdunne	Although I guess you just have to check every Sunday so not too bad	[10:49]
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d9b4bef9	danielpbarron davout decimation deedbot- diametric dignork donpillou dooglus	[10:50]
williamdunne	http://oglaf.com/feeds/rss/	[10:50]
williamdunne	If you want I could just add oglaf to scoopbot..	[10:50]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[10:51]
BingoBoingo	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGA8HcHWMAASfqV.jpg	[10:51]
mircea_popescu	mike_c http://dpaste.com/3VSXH7F	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron http://dpaste.com/0Y1XJ8D	[10:53]
scoopbot_revived	BitBet (S.BBET) May 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-may-2015-statement/	[10:56]
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mircea_popescu	mod6 http://dpaste.com/1YMM4N3	[10:57]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149668 << lol frenchie's a hardass and i suspect he's growing a moustache!	[11:01]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 14:47:09; davout: bye!	[11:01]
nubbins`	here's one for asciilifeform	[11:01]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/eIuHT8a.jpg	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149703 << whjat the fuck sort of failed cult is this then	[11:03]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 15:06:01; shinohai: This is about the only place that isn't an echo chamber anymore sadly.	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	i didn't sign up for this!	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` poultry dildo ?	[11:03]
nubbins`	bluetooth dongle w/ fake antenna	[11:03]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Its okay, the cult has been restored with a t-shirt with your face on it	[11:04]
williamdunne	I'm impressed so far with Romanian hospitality	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	the disadvantage of being romanian	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:48:16 - menahem: what do you guys think of this tee ?	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:48:18 - menahem: http://screencast.com/t/LxNozQwn7t3	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:49:17 - williamdunne: Well, its official, we're a cult.	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:49:19 - menahem: hahaha	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:51:05 - menahem: debating if i should add a quote to it	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	anywhere you go, you're unimpressed with the local assholery.	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:51:45 - williamdunne: "I'm better than you" should suffice	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:52:53 - menahem: "this Bitcock ain't gonna suck itself."	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:53:41 - WolfGoethe [~textual@cpe-74-66-238-187.nyc.res.rr.com] entered the room.	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:53:47 - williamdunne: +1	[11:05]
williamdunne	23:53:51 - williamdunne: Fuck it, I'd buy it	[11:05]
williamdunne	Aha	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha wut.	[11:05]
williamdunne	It really is incredible how helpful the lady has been, I'm used to the standard snobbery from others in her position	[11:06]
williamdunne	Yeah	[11:06]
williamdunne	It actually doesn't look half-bad on the t-shirt	[11:06]
mircea_popescu	if georgie ouzounian runs into you somewhere in dusty utah and you're wearing that shirt and it reads "I'm better than you" he's probably going to accost you.	[11:06]
williamdunne	I'm not awful at running, I'll take my chances	[11:07]
nubbins`	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150951	[11:08]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:11; nubbins`: mircea_popescu, your outstanding shipping bill is $70 and i still have a box of NSA tees taking up space in my studio	[11:08]
nubbins`	!	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	i know!	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	are you sueing me yet ?	[11:08]
nubbins`	no, but:	[11:08]
nubbins`	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150952	[11:08]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:32; nubbins`: given that the outstanding debt and the box of tees are 18 months old and 20 months old, respectively, i think it's time we settle up	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	aha aite.	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	addy ?	[11:08]
nubbins`	1CzZMzXzA9jtRDNEcG1jzfL5MfxRyVjUxD	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	this has been the most distant christmas in hystory, but! apparently it's coming.	[11:09]
nubbins`	woo	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` ima send you 0.(3) bitcoin	[11:09]
nubbins`	i'll shake the spiders out of the remaining inventory at no extra charge	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	tyvm o.O	[11:10]
nubbins`	HEH	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	what sort of industrial warehouse do you run in your own house over there!!	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	spiders ?!	[11:10]
nubbins`	sec, i have pix	[11:10]
nubbins`	found a crazy one today	[11:10]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/ak5LjiC.jpg	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	that's not so bad	[11:11]
nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/jXuwMo7.jpg	[11:12]
nubbins`	looked less intimidating outdoors	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	wolf spiders, they chase!	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_may9nl7Nmj1qzeiaco1_1280.jpg	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	tijuana abortions ever more gruesome	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150070 << word.	[11:18]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 20:16:56; trinque: little guy seems to be doing alright	[11:18]
nubbins`	found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegenaria_domestica	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	ayup	[11:19]
nubbins`	in other news, we're prolly gonna break last year's gross income by late july	[11:24]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151226 << looks like a dude 'enjoying' a homemade dulap !?	[11:28]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 14:10:57; mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_may9nl7Nmj1qzeiaco1_1280.jpg	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform or that.	[11:29]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: update since last night: got reply from mf. they will re-do the duds.	[11:30]
thestringpuller	;;isup qntra.net	[11:30]
gribble	qntra.net is down	[11:30]
thestringpuller	qntra crashed	[11:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform cool	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller yaya, moar wiff teh script kiddies.	[11:34]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151037 << obligatory >> http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s129/PeaceNikki72/uAgkm.jpg << originally a u.s. politico spoof, but has been 'memed' for many years with various photodiddles	[11:35]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 12:59:03; mircea_popescu: ask anyone. "impotent anger, #1 red flag".	[11:35]
asciilifeform	in other lulz, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DB096A7B64B9F4A9CE82785D9AF80E50E2AAE4BCC607BF6BFDACDD92BF65873C << we already had it in 'magic 98' yes	[11:36]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: i've been told to use hate as a measurement of success.	[11:37]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: 'oderint dum metuant' (TM) (R)	[11:38]
nubbins`	gr8 h8 m8	[11:39]
asciilifeform	;;isup trilema.com	[11:41]
gribble	trilema.com is down	[11:41]
chetty	its ok tho, Eulora is up	[11:43]
pete_dushenski	;;isup contravex.com	[11:45]
gribble	contravex.com is up	[11:45]
pete_dushenski	guess i've been ruffling the wrong feathers of late ?	[11:45]
nubbins`	brb testing vpn	[11:45]
asciilifeform	some miscellaneous lulz: http://larvatus.livejournal.com/558422.html	[11:46]
asciilifeform	and an unusually entertaining orlol: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/crazyland.html	[11:46]
pete_dushenski	"So, for instance, if it turned out that Obama were indeed a space lizard (how embarrassing!) the administrator would simlply click on “conspiracy theories,” click on the checkbox next to “Obama is a space lizard,” and click “uninstall.”"	[11:52]
pete_dushenski	ok, i lol'd	[11:52]
pete_dushenski	"I would respond that if he has a SIM card in his phone, then the phone emits roaming signals which allow its position to be determined with surprisingly good accuracy by using multilateralization—measuring its relative signal strength at several of the surrounding cell phone towers." << doesn't this require 'stingray' ?	[11:55]
pete_dushenski	or is that just for improved accuracy ?	[11:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.000328 = 9.5284 BTC [+]	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	lmao this noob.	[11:59]
thestringpuller	;;ud impotent rage	[12:00]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=impotent+rage \| impotent rage. When a man can't get it up, everything bothers him. He whines, throws tantrums and if someone mentions the word "laid" the rage takes over.	[12:00]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: got the acct info, thanks	[12:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25348 @ 0.000328 = 8.3141 BTC [+]	[12:05]
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mike_c	cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works	[12:07]
mod6	thanks.	[12:09]
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mod6	i tried to get it up and going lastnight on the throw-away ubuntu lappy has an intel graphics card. i had the previous release running on there, but have since wiped it. everything compiled fine lastnight. 'cept when starting `euclient`, it complained about no 3d graphics or something similar.	[12:11]
mod6	gonna mess with it later tonight. i don't remember what I did before to resolve this, been too long.	[12:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127271 @ 0.00033676 = 42.8598 BTC [+] {3}	[12:12]
chetty	mod6 what version ubuntu?	[12:16]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150083 << that entire thing has absolutel;y nothing to do with "investors"	[12:19]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 20:22:07; Landgull: They need to stop talking about what they need and start talking about what they will do for their investors.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	it just calls people that if that's what they want to be called.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	if you're so inclined, you can find a woman on the street willing to call your bar bills "investments", and then make you some kids to invest into further.	[12:20]
mircea_popescu	that's the nature of this "investment". "we can use your money"	[12:20]
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BingoBoingo	Bethesda is announcing Fallout 4 tomorrow, hot on the heels of the Eulora beta announcement.	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	3 was such a disappointment	[12:27]
BingoBoingo	I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2	[12:28]
mircea_popescu	ah	[12:28]
BingoBoingo	I enjoyed that Fallout 3.5 game in Vegas more than 3 though	[12:29]
mod6	<+chetty> mod6 what version ubuntu? << 14.10? not sure off the top of my head. i'll work on it tonight. will let you know.	[12:30]
mod6	im sure it's fine.	[12:31]
nubbins`	pete_dushenski doesn't what require stingray	[12:35]
nubbins`	triangulating your position based on cell towers?	[12:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00034434 = 16.976 BTC [+]	[12:41]
BingoBoingo	MPOE's been holding up for a while nao	[12:41]
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menahem	williamdunne thanks for sharing the shirt, lol. :) ill have it available for purchase soon, tweaking the shipping options.	[12:43]
williamdunne	Aha, very welcome	[12:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88100 @ 0.0003451 = 30.4033 BTC [+] {3}	[12:50]
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pete_dushenski	nubbins`: determining the position of a sim card.	[12:50]
pete_dushenski	if all you need are cell phone towers to determine location, why the fuck does stingray matter ?	[12:51]
pete_dushenski	ftr i don't know that 'stingray' is all that useful, may be 'teaching the controversy'	[12:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35851 @ 0.00031709 = 11.368 BTC [-] {2}	[13:02]
nubbins`	it's useful if the telco tells you to fuck off	[13:07]
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nubbins`	look, your phone's connected to x towers right now, each with a diff signal strength. basic math gives a rough location	[13:08]
nubbins`	stingray would ostensibly be a single-point unit, less useful for triangulation, more of a "warmer/colder" style	[13:08]
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pete_dushenski	makes sense.	[13:09]
pete_dushenski	telco telling cops to fuck off though ? maybe 10 years ago.	[13:10]
pete_dushenski	not that there wouldn't be some red tape and paperwork, i suppose.	[13:10]
nubbins`	go back and re-watch The Wire and see the hassle they went through tapping cell phones, and then imagine giving them a suitcase that blasts out the strongest cell signal in the projects so every phone preferentially tries to connect to it	[13:10]
nubbins`	it's a boon for cops	[13:11]
pete_dushenski	the wire was also 10 years ago	[13:11]
pete_dushenski	based on intel older than that	[13:11]
nubbins`	sure, and a lot of the problems surrounding that part of the puzzle are different now	[13:11]
nubbins`	but in all cases, going through official routes to get info from telco vs just turning on a piece of kit?	[13:12]
nubbins`	especially if your department head doesn't give a fuck when/where you use your stingray	[13:12]
nubbins`	(the inevitable outcome, duh)	[13:12]
pete_dushenski	i can see it.	[13:13]
BingoBoingo	https://i.imgur.com/m5zWPPx.jpg	[13:13]
lobbes	I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2 << Same boat here. I never played 1 & 2, but thoroughly enjoyed 3 & 3.5. My buddy, who had played the originals, also felt disappointed. It's all relative (tm), I guess.	[13:14]
pete_dushenski	needless to say, stingray or tower triangulation are more expensive to implement than gps tracking in smartphones	[13:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00031568 = 10.5121 BTC [-]	[13:14]
pete_dushenski	so if security is a matter of making attacks expensive, a dumbphone still trumps a smartphone	[13:15]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: did the derp from fortune who didn't link to qntra ever come clean ?	[13:21]
nubbins`	this vpn doles out a paltry 17mbit/s	[13:21]
pete_dushenski	who are you using ?	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski mno.	[13:22]
nubbins`	giving pia a shot	[13:22]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: sorta figured as much	[13:22]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: ya, pia is pretty damn slow	[13:22]
pete_dushenski	i've been doing some reading on this jaron lanier fellow, looking for an angle to roast him on for a blog post but i have to admit i'm at a loss	[13:24]
nubbins`	smokes weed	[13:25]
nubbins`	obv	[13:25]
pete_dushenski	the dude is so all over the map, markov chaining so hard, that i have nothing to grab onto without pulling the entire universe along with me	[13:25]
pete_dushenski	ya, the dreads are a bit rasta eh	[13:25]
pete_dushenski	ah well, fuck it. if anyone falls for his rambling nonsense, they deserve it.	[13:26]
nubbins`	"He proposes a two-way linking system that would point to the source of any piece of information, creating an economy of micropayments that compensates people for original material they post to the web."	[13:29]
nubbins`	imagine those youtube pop-up text ads, but "like the sound in this scene? send satoshis to 1Rambo5SoundGuyxxx"	[13:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.00031806 = 30.0408 BTC [+] {2}	[13:30]
pete_dushenski	pretty much his proposal, except extended even further so that people sharing their biometrics or whatever with their insurance companies or employers would be paid extra	[13:31]
pete_dushenski	it's welfare with the DIGNITY of having earned it.	[13:31]
pete_dushenski	just for existing, obv.	[13:31]
pete_dushenski	but because it was willingly shared, it magically has value.	[13:32]
nubbins`	if it didn't have value, people wouldn't collect it, mmm?	[13:33]
pete_dushenski	precisely like seashells on the beach	[13:34]
pete_dushenski	value being a very subjective thing when there's no scarcity or fungibility	[13:34]
pete_dushenski	it's not like your fatass heartrate is a monet	[13:34]
nubbins`	sure	[13:34]
nubbins`	value changes over time, too	[13:35]
nubbins`	maybe the lighting in Heat was too blue for audiences in the late 2010s	[13:35]
nubbins`	but was rad as hell in the mid 2030s	[13:35]
pete_dushenski	well that's just fashion, which is inherently worthless.	[13:35]
pete_dushenski	'audiences' being 'the people' and therefore incapable of imparting value on anything whatsoever	[13:36]
nubbins`	maybe the insurance company has a very large need of biometric data when figuring out rates for a new policy program	[13:36]
nubbins`	but not so much of a need for em later.	[13:36]
nubbins`	put another way	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	curl: (23) Failed writing body	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	that's a new one.	[13:37]
nubbins`	what's the value of a sheet of toilet paper while you're taking a shit, vs while you're taking a shower?	[13:37]
nubbins`	would you pay $5 for it while you're shampooing your hair?	[13:37]
nubbins`	how 'bout when you just shit yourself in the parking lot outside the funeral home?	[13:37]
jurov	http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/ hehehee	[13:38]
BingoBoingo	!b 2	[13:39]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0TJ07ME.txt )	[13:39]
BingoBoingo	markov bash!	[13:39]
nubbins`	heh	[13:40]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: if said insurance company needs data now, why wouldn't it need more data later with which to compare the original info ?	[13:41]
pete_dushenski	http://www.magicaltux.net/post/120528127244/didnt-we-learn-anything << lookee who else ain't dead. fatso !	[13:41]
nubbins`	oh, it just might	[13:41]
nubbins`	if pumpkin futures for october are through the roof, why wouldn't they be even higher just after xmas?	[13:41]
pete_dushenski	but if, say, biometric data is a pre-condition for coverage, that doesn't mean that the insurance company should be paying you to use it	[13:42]
pete_dushenski	"One entity would be specialized in handling of coins. It would focus mostly on security, and could also offer processing for other things than exchanges (I’m thinking about Lightning, for example). Existing wallet services are probably in a good position to start working on this kind of solutions." << what a fucking retard. no spellcheck, no braincheck...	[13:43]
pete_dushenski	"let's decentralise the parts of a human body so that it can be more efficient"	[13:44]
pete_dushenski	"you take the legs, i'll take the chest, he'll take the ears !"	[13:44]
pete_dushenski	cripes you'd think that 600k coins or whatever he embezzled would buy him a tutor.	[13:45]
pete_dushenski	and a non-tumblr website.	[13:45]
pete_dushenski	and a photographer with a proper camera for a portrait shot	[13:46]
pete_dushenski	!gettrust NewLiberty	[13:47]
assbot	Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user NewLiberty: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=NewLiberty \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/NewLiberty/	[13:47]
pete_dushenski	NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude	[13:47]
BingoBoingo	!up NewLiberty	[13:47]
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NewLiberty	I used to be able to anyhow	[13:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.20760911 = 1.038 BTC [+]	[13:50]
punkman	pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude << it says 0 via 2 there	[13:50]
fluffypony	jurov: I don't know if I can trust a website called "worldnewsdailyreport" :-P	[13:51]
NewLiberty	has to be >0 to self voice	[13:51]
punkman	magicaltux blogging again... just shameless isn't he.	[13:52]
pete_dushenski	NewLiberty: ah, i thought it was just assbot's l2 for some reason	[13:52]
NewLiberty	Fluffypony, have you digested the borromean ring stuff yet?	[13:52]
NewLiberty	I'm still chewing on it	[13:53]
fluffypony	NewLiberty: no, too buggered and travelling at the moment, so will look at it on Friday once I've landed back in SA and spent a day recovering :)	[13:53]
NewLiberty	Yes, it is one that takes work. More so for me certainly.	[13:55]
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punkman	is that a monero thing?	[13:55]
williamdunne	punkman: Am I the only one thinking he might not be entirely to blame? (Entirely as if in he was incompetent, but someone else committed the bad deed.	[13:56]
williamdunne	)	[13:56]
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punkman	williamdunne: possibly	[13:56]
NewLiberty	Gmaxwell paper on a privacy method	[13:56]
punkman	link?	[13:56]
fluffypony	it's not a privacy method, NewLiberty	[13:57]
fluffypony	adding it to Bitcoin won't add privacy	[13:57]
fluffypony	it's part of a wider crypto ecosystem that remains under wraps at the moment	[13:57]
NewLiberty	https://github.com/Blockstream/borromean_paper/raw/master/borromean_draft_0.01_34241bb.pdf	[13:57]
fluffypony	but the advantage for Monero is that we may be able to adopt the scheme to reduce our signature size and verification effort	[13:58]
NewLiberty	Right, that is an important distinction.	[13:58]
NewLiberty	It does more for monero than for bitcoin	[13:58]
fluffypony	I'm terribly interested in what gmaxwell is up to, but he's already said that whatever guesses we have about this wider system we'd be wrong :)	[13:59]
williamdunne	Holy cow, SSDs have got cheaper since I last checked..	[13:59]
williamdunne	http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Warranty-SDSSDXPS-960G-G25/dp/B00KHRYR0U	[13:59]
williamdunne	960gb for $440, not bad	[14:00]
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williamdunne	Oh wow, even better	[14:00]
williamdunne	http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-its-new-extreme-900-lineup/	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski the problem with not shooting retards is that they accumulate.	[14:01]
williamdunne	Three year warranty on the 2tb one though kinda sucks	[14:01]
NewLiberty	The zero knowledge oracle pieces, Fiat-Shamir, being put to a good use would be a nice add.	[14:01]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: that's a strong argument for axetime	[14:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00031568 = 3.3778 BTC [-]	[14:02]
pete_dushenski	NewLiberty: good how ? nice how ?	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely.	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	blame attaches according to sin, not according to the size of the fireball.	[14:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50500 @ 0.00031473 = 15.8939 BTC [-] {2}	[14:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00031745 = 14.9836 BTC [+]	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150090 << there's certainly too much of this psychiatric sort of behaviour around. "what are you doing for a living ?" "i make people feel better about themselves"	[14:07]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 20:24:23; ben_vulpes: make everyone feel really cool for investing	[14:07]
pete_dushenski	this is also teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, you name it.	[14:08]
pete_dushenski	everyone be in the "helping people" business	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150119 << and now you see how b-a gets a bad name	[14:08]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 20:28:02; williamdunne: Thought they were derpy so wanted to discuss it on a public forum	[14:08]
pete_dushenski	"helping" with feelings, of course	[14:08]
punkman	Borromean Nonsense I say	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	"THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE WHO EXPECT US TO MAKE SENSE AND DONT CARE ABOUT HOW THIS MAKES US FEEL!!1"	[14:08]
mircea_popescu	the evil cult of taptweutmsadcahtmuf	[14:09]
pete_dushenski	cruel and unusual, this.	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski there's a great seinfeld episode in which that weasel costanza goes to a job interview, decides to show up to work as if he had passed it, the somewhat confused receptionist gives him a choice of offices, he takes the smaller one.	[14:11]
BingoBoingo	taptweutmsadcahtmuf << I dunno this word, but "sad" seems important. Our cult gives outsiders the sads	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	then his boss comes back, discovers he's not done any work, and george goes "consider i am in the smaller office!"	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	by know there's an entire generation of this office scum : their job is to "x and be nice". they do exactly as much work as any guppi	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	but... CONSIDER I WAS NICE!11	[14:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00031745 = 12.444 BTC [+]	[14:12]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: and guppi's expect to be treated "nice" in return	[14:13]
pete_dushenski	resulting in a very congenial, even convivial environs with which to get exactly nothing done	[14:13]
NewLiberty	pete_dushenski: the ultimate gmaxwell use remains a mystery, but the method described is also useful for other purposes which may be more immediately nice. (less computer resource needed for some monero functions)	[14:14]
pete_dushenski	thus, the bureaucracy is the ideal home	[14:14]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Context?	[14:14]
BingoBoingo	http://motherboard.vice.com/read/great-someone-managed-to-sign-facebooks-pgp-key-with-an-ascii-goatse	[14:15]
pete_dushenski	NewLiberty: o_O gmaxwell de facto working on monero nao ?	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne hm ?	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150147 << da fuck do they do in the rangers, parkour ?	[14:17]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 20:46:23; mats: the navy doesn't see nearly the same level of folks going to medical discharge boards	[14:17]
NewLiberty	Yes. The paper has some potentially helpful implications there.	[14:17]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo lul	[14:17]
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williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Context of "williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely."	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	magicaltux, and you're comment as ot whether "he's to blame entirely"	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	yes, he is. nobody asked fatso to pretend like he's a banker nao.	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	you're lmao	[14:27]
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williamdunne	Oh right, I meant that he might not be entirely responsible for the loss.	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	that is a certainty. most of the loss is purely imaginary anyway	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork.	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	indian candy prolly has more candy laying around her place than sr ever moved.	[14:30]
williamdunne	Lol	[14:32]
williamdunne	TBH every time more details come out about the whole MtGox shit-heap, it sounds more and more like there was a significant USG element to the almighty fuck up	[14:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47665 @ 0.00030951 = 14.7528 BTC [-] {2}	[14:36]
mats	http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-wang-says-ivy-league-discriminates-against-asians-2015-5	[14:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35250 @ 0.00031671 = 11.164 BTC [+]	[14:38]
pete_dushenski	"Wang still feels as if he was unfairly rejected from the Ivies. "I think I deserve better than what I got," he said.""	[14:39]
pete_dushenski	This just in : azns are just as meta-fabulous as white kids	[14:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108150 @ 0.00030853 = 33.3675 BTC [-] {2}	[14:40]
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pete_dushenski	if the article's picture tells us anything, it's that the kid probably didn't woo the socks off the interview panel, if there even was one.	[14:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00031671 = 8.0761 BTC [+]	[14:43]
mats	#thestruggle	[14:45]
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mats	mircea_popescu: mostly they starve you for days while you go on missions	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[14:55]
mats	mircea_popescu: and then towards the end you have to pass a timed, weighted march after doing a 5mi run and some other events	[14:55]
mats	usually its the former that breaks people.	[14:55]
nubbins`	<+mircea_popescu> like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork. <<< wasn't supposed to sell kilos of coke 8)	[14:55]
nubbins`	6dollarshirts.com would probably have a very hard time selling cotton by the bale, as an analogy	[14:56]
mats	oops, 2mi run	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` it got prosecuted for selling cotton by the bale, ftr.	[14:57]
nubbins`	sure did.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	i have no objection to whatever model being used, but it'd better be used consistently!	[14:57]
nubbins`	flew too close to the sun on wings made of wax.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	in the terms it's being discussed (cotton baller), it sucked.	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	ftr : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cotton-store-cairo.jpg	[14:58]
nubbins`	sure, but in terms of being a bald eagle, you suck.	[14:58]
scoopbot_revived	No Such lAbs (S.NSA), May 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/	[14:58]
*	pete_dushenski thought of george sr's 'cornballer' from arrested development	[14:59]
nubbins`	doesn't mean you're not a top bloke otherwise, regardless of the foolishness of your building an eyre or whatevertf	[14:59]
nubbins`	aerie	[15:00]
nubbins`	w/e	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	im working on the bald eagle thing.	[15:00]
nubbins`	i figured you'd get something in motion when alf mentioned this a while back.	[15:00]
pete_dushenski	"As in the great days of the Studio System, NSA's star male lead spent a lot of time loaned out to other studios this Spring. The critically panned "RSA In The Soup!" trilogy was just packaged recently, while filming for the Thermonuked Chicken Saga continues." << haha priceless	[15:00]
pete_dushenski	'stan the star' (tm)	[15:01]
nubbins`	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-05-2015#1123038	[15:01]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 20:13:20; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122989 << l0l - how about as an elephant? eagle ?	[15:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00031671 = 5.1782 BTC [+]	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	scam.	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	cascading logsheets check that out.	[15:03]
nubbins`	CLS	[15:04]
nubbins`	also an acronym for content management systems that don't manage things very well	[15:04]
nubbins`	o look, new eulora src	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	oya	[15:05]
fluffypony	http://i.imgur.com/VgG931z.gifv	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9byzW1Rd1rkb8clo1_1280.jpg aka smallcock.jpg	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	omg.	[15:07]
nubbins`	fluffypony :0	[15:07]
fluffypony	ikr	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	that poor old lady	[15:07]
nubbins`	HAHA HAPPY BIRTHDAY WE'RE GOING TO COVER YOU IN POLYURETHANE FOAM AND LIGHT YOU UP	[15:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00031671 = 1.6944 BTC [+]	[15:08]
nubbins`	i think it was the tracksuit guy who doused her w/ flame	[15:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35852 @ 0.00032439 = 11.63 BTC [+] {4}	[15:09]
*	pete_dushenski wonders if stan is more of a Vyuacheslav Savitskiy (cossack general turned silver screen star) or Aleksandr Voloshin (white army officer turned silver screen star)	[15:09]
pete_dushenski	mp is definitely goldwyn/mayer	[15:10]
pete_dushenski	http://www.russianamericanbusiness.org/web_CURRENT/articles/8/1/Hollywood&%2339%3Bs-Russian-Roots	[15:10]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` he does stand around suspiciously unconcerned	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski you mean lb mayer ?	[15:11]
pete_dushenski	lazar yakovlevich mayer	[15:11]
pete_dushenski	golwyn's partner	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	iirc it was just lazar meir	[15:11]
pete_dushenski	goldwyn*	[15:12]
mats	https://regex.alf.nu	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150338 << i read "where are you basted" and i thought... she'd better say "midway"	[15:15]
assbot	Logged on 01-06-2015 23:46:20; williamdunne: Where are you based?	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9yzoyNrxr1rg1prvo1_1280.jpg << visual for the basting.	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150376 << o.O	[15:17]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 00:14:20; WolfGoethe: portland was nice. met a super model lookin type girl there... she told me she hasn;t had a date in 6 months.. i was like why??? she said because the guys in portland are to scared to even say hi to her... lol	[15:17]
williamdunne	Noice	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	so THIS is why ben_vulpes & trinque don't invite us over huh.	[15:18]
williamdunne	http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9byzW1Rd1rkb8clo1_1280.jpg aka smallcock.jpg << seems like a poor choice to be naked in front of the camera	[15:18]
williamdunne	fluffypony: Darwinism in action?	[15:18]
trinque	mircea_popescu: heh, and the german girls are too scared to visit!	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	im still having the occasional chuckle over that episode.	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne honestly if i iwas doing fetish photography, i'd only use below average dudes.	[15:19]
williamdunne	How come?	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150424 << you know, that picture doesn't take itself...	[15:21]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 00:25:08; WolfGoethe: instagram has women like this... https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11230425_818749641507034_1768860839_n.jpg	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne better trademark than you know, trying to put a watermark on the pics.	[15:22]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150433 << so eat better.	[15:23]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 00:27:11; trinque: never do I look at my food or ass and say "goddamn someone needs to see this shit"	[15:23]
williamdunne	Lol, small dick studios	[15:23]
nubbins`	babydick bus	[15:24]
nubbins`	er well i guess babydick bros now	[15:25]
trinque	8D Media	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	toes before hoes.	[15:25]
trinque	haha	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	and i'd only hire black dudes too	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	and then apply to the uk's service of investing in derpy airports in fucking plymouth	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	to give me $$$ because i hired the most unfortunate people alive	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	black men with small dicks.	[15:26]
williamdunne	Lol	[15:26]
williamdunne	South West of the UK is poor as shit	[15:26]
williamdunne	Nothing happens here	[15:26]
williamdunne	Hence why we have 1 billionaire out of (104?) in the UK	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	shut up, that's got staines in da hood there. represent	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	respek	[15:27]
williamdunne	restecp	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	West Staines Massif 4evar	[15:28]
williamdunne	east side is the best	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	;;lasers williamdunne	[15:29]
williamdunne	Imma rewatch that actually	[15:29]
gribble	┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew! pew! pew!	[15:29]
williamdunne	fuckin lold	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150496 win	[15:30]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 00:41:59; Adlai: !b 2	[15:30]
thestringpuller	;;laserkittens	[15:30]
gribble	ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew	[15:30]
pete_dushenski	o hey wawrinka beat federer in straight sets.	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	he's old	[15:32]
pete_dushenski	that's what i thought too. like 3 years ago. guy's still at it and still winning	[15:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20717 @ 0.0003058 = 6.3353 BTC [-]	[15:34]
mircea_popescu	!rate indiancandy1 1 williamdunne's hand puppet.	[15:34]
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williamdunne	In other news, CIPC (the South Africa company registration/copyright people) use the TIF image format exclusively	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.indiancandy1.1:b1b19f36f745b76e2d677cacd319cd1b9f52078b7606335173e617bf9e64bbca	[15:35]
assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for indiancandy1 with note: williamdunne's hand puppet.	[15:35]
williamdunne	First time I've ever used that format	[15:35]
williamdunne	Nice rating	[15:35]
williamdunne	Although she doesn't have the key to access it D:	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150641 << mno lol	[15:36]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 01:20:57; williamdunne: Can kakro overrule this when he is online I wonder?	[15:36]
williamdunne	Oh shet	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne teaches you to ask the girl if she's on contraception BEFORE sticking it in.	[15:36]
williamdunne	mYeah, guessing the only option is a new nick, or to work out her password	[15:36]
williamdunne	ah well	[15:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00030379 = 19.8071 BTC [-] {3}	[15:37]
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mircea_popescu	indeed. you can't administratively undo people's keys, thinkaboutit.	[15:37]
williamdunne	Well technically kak could	[15:37]
williamdunne	Guessing he has access to the DB, but yeah I kinda see why he shouldn't	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150704 << we have our standards lol	[15:38]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 01:49:50; WolfGoethe: only the geekiest of the crypto geeks would go thru all that just to post big booty pics	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	dude check out all the logdramaz.	[15:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00031655 = 21.5571 BTC [+] {2}	[15:41]
williamdunne	Did you see the response Sandhill gave me when I asked if they were gonna leave the US?	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[15:42]
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mircea_popescu	"we like the kindergarten and think we belong here."	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	prolly right.	[15:43]
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williamdunne	Yep, nationalism seems strange as hell to me	[15:45]
williamdunne	If country is holding me back, I'm gonna move	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	that's not what's happening there.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	what's happening there is, "all i know how to do is spend the unemployment benefits. i can only talk to girls if they share X Y Z very narrow preconceptions, my conversation revolves around internet faux news and internet faux outrage" etc.	[15:46]
chetty	williamdunne, yeah but where to? pretty much all like that these days	[15:46]
williamdunne	chetty: Seems like the USG is the only one who would prosecute someone for offering CFDs built on smart-contracts	[15:47]
chetty	point!	[15:48]
williamdunne	chetty: Much like Argentina so far hasn't given two shits that MP runs MPEX (AFAIK)	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	neither did romania	[15:48]
nubbins`	neither did SEC, as it turns out	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	tbh, neither did the us	[15:49]
williamdunne	True	[15:49]
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nubbins`	heh	[15:49]
williamdunne	Well, SEC couldn't give that many shits	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` lol	[15:49]
williamdunne	But they have previously fined people for running bitcoin securities	[15:49]
chetty	rofl	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne you know there's a shitload more to it than "saying so on reddit".	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150865 << check out the sensitized trinque. does portland suck or something ? :D	[15:50]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless	[15:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.0003301 = 15.3827 BTC [+]	[15:50]
williamdunne	So I'm guessing if MP was US citizen or lived in US, they would have tried something	[15:51]
williamdunne	So more a matter of practicality rather than if they care or not	[15:51]
williamdunne	Its not like S.DICE lost investors money, ran a ponzi, or whatever	[15:51]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Exactly, only the USG seems to care	[15:51]
williamdunne	Hence why I think they should tell the US to go fuck itself and move pretty much anywhere	[15:51]
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mircea_popescu	you will note that contrary to deceitful reporting to the contrary, by both the sec itself and the usg prop machine,	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	s dice was at no point involved.	[15:52]
mircea_popescu	what was involved was, the guy, and his feed ze birds glbse asset.	[15:52]
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mircea_popescu	of which nobody much heard or cares to much remember, but nevertheless.	[15:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150924 << on an' off.	[15:53]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 07:15:59; cazalla: qntra down for anyone else? ddos back eh?	[15:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150962 << ohohoh so much win.	[15:54]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 11:07:58; cazalla: the barter ocf mentions a "Pietila Group" so i guess it might be him	[15:54]
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mircea_popescu	!up williamdunne1	[15:54]
-assbot-	You voiced williamdunne1 for 30 minutes.	[15:54]
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mircea_popescu	http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54fcda9ce4b0edea648d9cea/t/556813c6e4b0f0a8f2e606e8/1432884171206/ dawg this shit has to be reposted.	[15:55]
williamdunne1	This is getting very annoying, can't get back into williamdunne	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	what in the everloving fuck	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne1 msg nickserv release	[15:55]
williamdunne1	Any luck	[15:56]
williamdunne1	Nope	[15:56]
williamdunne1	Fuck it, I'll close the whole thing off	[15:56]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150979 << i could of course just move it to a diff server, but whatevs.	[15:57]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 11:30:01; jurov: dunno how that could be easily fixed. since mircea recoiled in horror from the "proxied php" setup, he can't easily split tittylick.php into other process with higher priority	[15:57]
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williamdunne	I'm back	[15:59]
williamdunne	First off all how DAER you	[15:59]
williamdunne	I founded BarterOCF it is mi favorit AMAZING company	[15:59]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[15:59]
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*	mircea_popescu suspects this entire pietilla thing is elaborate parody.	[16:00]
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mircea_popescu	very well made, at that, so allow me to be the first one to clap.	[16:01]
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diana_coman	I've got eulora to compile under windows 8.1, but then the client quits: "psclient has stopped working. Windows is checking for a solution to the problem..."	[16:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5148 @ 0.00033608 = 1.7301 BTC [+]	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	"reboot your computer" ?	[16:03]
diana_coman	neah, it waits a bit and then it "will let you know" when it finds one :)))	[16:03]
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williamdunne	Traditionally the response is "have you tried turning it off and on again"	[16:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30091 @ 0.00032743 = 9.8527 BTC [-]	[16:05]
diana_coman	yeah, I have the misfortune of having enough windows experience to know the famous "cure"	[16:06]
williamdunne	I chuckled http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/386el0/this_post_is_not_about_the_block_size_limit/	[16:06]
williamdunne	In fairness, I've had to do that a few times on Ubuntu	[16:06]
williamdunne	Hell, some stuff has been more stable on my windows machine than on here, but not all that much	[16:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 229750 @ 0.00030088 = 69.1272 BTC [-] {6}	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	ida ?	[16:08]
diana_coman	ubuntu is nowadays very much like windows I'd say	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	quite.	[16:08]
diana_coman	the reason for which I am currently seriously searching for some OS to have on my machine, as I can't stand ubuntu anymore	[16:09]
chetty	just stop upgrading it, stick with an old version	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	yeah, nothing past 10.04 was ever approved for usage anyway.	[16:10]
diana_coman	well yes, that's what I did for the moment: got an older version	[16:11]
diana_coman	but ...	[16:11]
diana_coman	I still can't stand it anymore, lol	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	make a working gentoo.	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help	[16:13]
williamdunne	The only reason Ubuntu is nice, is that everything is packageized	[16:14]
williamdunne	Maybe I'll move to debian	[16:14]
diana_coman	it could be interesting - I'll need to have a look at gentoo as I haven't really looked at it in ages	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	debian used to work. then it got packaged into ubuntu, and the remainder was shot in the head with systemd crapolade.	[16:15]
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williamdunne	Oh, great. All I want is a stable OS with a well populated package manager	[16:17]
williamdunne	Lord, why won't you grant me this wish	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required.	[16:18]
williamdunne	We should call it loper	[16:19]
williamdunne	Or maybe loper-os	[16:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00031969 = 5.2429 BTC [+]	[16:19]
pete_dushenski	!up ascii_field	[16:19]
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pete_dushenski	"Starting on 27 June 2015, SMS notifications from Google Calendar will no longer be sent. SMS notifications were launched before smartphones were available. Now, in a world with smartphones and notifications, you can get a richer, more reliable experience on your mobile device, even offline." << well fuck that.	[16:21]
*	pete_dushenski kinda liked the text messages 45 min before events.	[16:21]
chetty	everyone must have a 'smartphone', how else they gonna keep track of you?	[16:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63261 @ 0.00032136 = 20.3296 BTC [+] {3}	[16:23]
pete_dushenski	as if writing 1000 lines a week in here wasn't enough data.	[16:23]
pete_dushenski	but hey, not everyone fits in that category, i guess.	[16:24]
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Naphex	https://xotika.tv/#/development pretty countdown is on :P	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	lol. this is a bad format	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	they have no fucking idea what to do wioti it	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	yo Naphex , want a banner on 8chan ?	[16:24]
Naphex	(has no idea what 8chan is )	[16:25]
Naphex	never got into chans	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	mk. want 500k or so impressions ?	[16:25]
Naphex	ofc	[16:25]
williamdunne	Naphex: Registered as a model	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	728x90, make me a banner.	[16:26]
williamdunne	Naphex: I'll be in Bucharest next week to audition for you	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha wut ?	[16:26]
Naphex	williamdunne: will actually be in mamaia from saturday	[16:26]
Naphex	doing the launch	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	Naphex cu pizde ?	[16:26]
Naphex	you're welcomed to join http://www.awsummit.com/	[16:27]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: yeah ofcourse,we got some romanian playboy model	[16:27]
Naphex	and some other gimmicks :P	[16:27]
williamdunne	damn it, now how will I make my audition	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	Naphex daca-mi trimiti ceva poze ok & exclusive iti fac articol pe trilema.	[16:27]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: aye, rezolv de toate	[16:28]
Naphex	o sa-i zic la cora sa pregateasca	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[16:28]
williamdunne	Naphex: Fuck it, I'd actually go to that summit with you, but I've got a flight to Prague on Thursday	[16:28]
williamdunne	*next Thursday	[16:28]
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mircea_popescu	Naphex da' pizda goala nu cacaturi. trilema e anti softcore	[16:29]
pete_dushenski	http://foaas.com/	[16:29]
Naphex	mircea_popescu: :))	[16:29]
scoopbot_revived	Line betting on BitBet, May 2015 http://thewhet.net/2015/line-betting-on-bitbet-may-2015/	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski ancient trilema commenter chick used to link to foib.org	[16:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36895 @ 0.00033223 = 12.2576 BTC [+]	[16:31]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: lol	[16:32]
deedbot-	Bad URL or network outage.	[16:32]
pete_dushenski	hanbot: .txt	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:33]
hanbot	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0KM1CWY.txt	[16:33]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[16:33]
hanbot	thanks pete. damned if i ever manage it correctly on the first try	[16:33]
pete_dushenski	np :)	[16:34]
jurov	why no one is hosting .txt version of stuff themselves?	[16:34]
pete_dushenski	i'd guess that something in the order of 30% of deeds are correctly submitted and accepted on the 1st try.	[16:34]
jurov	still, not having to copy text from html can be handy when deedbot link is not provided	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	jurov im not sure what you're asking ?	[16:35]
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jurov	everyone just copies the clearsigned test and pastes it to wordpress	[16:36]
jurov	*text	[16:36]
jurov	it may be a problem to get the text back so that it verifies	[16:36]
jurov	so i'm asking to upload the original as attachemnt	[16:36]
jurov	*attachment	[16:36]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151672 << i don't expect to live to see this. needs standardized iron	[16:37]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 19:14:23; mircea_popescu: myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required.	[16:37]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: eat better !	[16:37]
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jurov	like i do here [GPG signed statement]: http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2015-trading-statement	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	!up referredbyloper	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	oh i see.	[16:38]
-assbot-	You voiced referredbyloper for 30 minutes.	[16:38]
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mircea_popescu	not a bad idea, that.	[16:38]
ascii_field	pete_dushenski: wai wat	[16:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21405 @ 0.00032115 = 6.8742 BTC [-]	[16:40]
hanbot	jurov yeah i think i'll adopt your method from now on.	[16:40]
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nubbins`	referredbyloper: welcome	[16:44]
nubbins`	favourite type of cheese?	[16:44]
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pete_dushenski	ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151532 ;)	[16:45]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 18:19:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150433 << so eat better.	[16:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35545 @ 0.00033004 = 11.7313 BTC [+]	[16:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00032889 = 12.8267 BTC [-]	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	U.S. ambassador to England, Joseph Kennedy, also told the studios to stop making pro-British and anti-German films, as British defeat was imminent and there was no point in America holding out alone: 'With England licked, the party's over.'	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	things that never happened in 1939, an archive.	[17:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00030008 = 6.0016 BTC [-]	[17:15]
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cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151267 <<< thanks in advance	[17:18]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 15:03:12; mike_c: cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works	[17:18]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: link to the 1939 thing ?	[17:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43620 @ 0.00031155 = 13.5898 BTC [+]	[17:28]
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lobbes	ascii_field: curious myself, I googled teh quote. Found a wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_B._Mayer#cite_ref-Eyman.2C_p._277_69-0	[17:46]
lobbes	'From September, 1939, until January, 1940, all films that could be considered anti-Nazi were banned by the Hays Office.'	[17:46]
lobbes	heh	[17:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3205 @ 0.00032889 = 1.0541 BTC [+]	[17:49]
trinque	mircea_popescu \| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150865 << check out the sensitized trinque. does portland suck or something ? :D << as portland has nothing, is nothing, the empty vessels here mostly define themselves as not the other empty vessels.	[17:52]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless	[17:52]
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trinque	black hole of meta-identity and retirement at 25	[17:55]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell jurov you've got depositz :)	[18:00]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:00]
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jurov	O.o	[18:02]
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lobbes	;;later tell WolfGoethe btw, you should get a cloak (ask on #freenode)	[18:14]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:16]
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ascii_field	;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151173 << i actually have one, bought from an ebay sc4mz0r most of a decade ago, somewhere in my parts box	[18:16]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:16]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 13:57:52; nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/eIuHT8a.jpg	[18:16]
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thestringpuller	ascii_field: you would even hate on red-army superman.	[18:26]
ascii_field	wai wat	[18:26]
thestringpuller	in alternate timeline superman falls to soviet russia and is raised as communist	[18:26]
thestringpuller	he becomes hero of red army and champion of proliterat	[18:27]
ascii_field	l0l	[18:27]
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trinque	thestringpuller: the horror!	[18:28]
trinque	is there some time-warp scenario where american and comrade superman do battle?	[18:29]
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punkman	https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys	[18:31]
punkman	someone wants to do phuctoring on github	[18:31]
scoopbot_revived	The fruits of a classical education. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/02/the-fruits-of-a-classical-education/	[18:31]
ascii_field	punkman: wtf. as if you can't get ssh pubkey just by connecting to random boxen	[18:33]
ascii_field	-public- means... just that, public.	[18:33]
thestringpuller	trinque: More like Comrade Batman vs Comrade Superman.	[18:35]
thestringpuller	pretty sure ascii_field would be on team Comrade Batman. :P	[18:35]
jurov	lol i actually started scraping github keys today , with this intention	[18:37]
jurov	but with their ratelimiting, might take over a week	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field http://bookaspdf.com/the-sphinx-franklin-roosevelt-the-isolationists-and-the-road- to-world-war-ii.html	[18:38]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: found it earlier, neat	[18:38]
punkman	seems like the guy found a bunch of people using keys generated while Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys	[18:38]
jurov	unless someone here generates and donates their oauth key	[18:38]
ascii_field	the 'factorable' folks did the earlier	[18:38]
ascii_field	iirc	[18:38]
*	ascii_field did not discover gcd! euclid did	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys << o.O	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	when the fuck was this ?!	[18:39]
ascii_field	'03 ?	[18:39]
*	mircea_popescu was busy at the time, apparently.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	seriously ? this was a thing ?	[18:40]
jurov	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/random_number_b.html	[18:40]
ascii_field	https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/5720/	[18:40]
jurov	big thing	[18:40]
punkman	who doesn't remember THE debian bug	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	me, apparently.	[18:40]
punkman	granted, so many of these fuckups going on every year	[18:40]
jurov	they even hacked debian servers and stole the source code!!!	[18:40]
ascii_field	http://jblevins.org/log/ssh-vulnkey << different from the one i was thinking of	[18:41]
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mircea_popescu	On May 13th, 2008 Seems that the bug was introduced in September 2006.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	Instead of mixing in random data for the initial seed, the only "random" value that was used was the current process ID. On the Linux platform, the default maximum process ID is 32,768, resulting in a very small number of seed values being used for all PRNG operations.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	process id as a random value, god help us	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	"Back when the NSA was routinely weakening commercial cryptography, their favorite technique was reducing the entropy of the random number generator."	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	oh i see, BACK WHEN	[18:42]
ascii_field	ahahaha.	[18:42]
ascii_field	'back when.'	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	back when dudes took pictures of naked women...	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	you know, before the internet...	[18:43]
jurov	before bitcoin	[18:43]
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ascii_field	in other lulz, http://cryptome.org/2015/06/fbi-sky-spies.htm	[18:45]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:47]
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ascii_field	check out the flight paths, e.g., http://imagebin.ca/231QwtGcRLMz/N912EXNYC.png http://imagebin.ca/231OJfk5LfsD/Baltimoreheavy.png	[18:48]
ascii_field	they go in circles all day...	[18:48]
trinque	"wide-area mass surveillance and location tracking of entire cities and towns."	[18:48]
ascii_field	picking up stray rf or whatnot.	[18:48]
trinque	maybe munching on cell phones, wifi, so on	[18:48]
punkman	why do they register these and let them show up on flightradar24?	[18:51]
ascii_field	punkman: generally u.s. airplanes are required to broadcast id	[18:51]
ascii_field	punkman: for reasons i cannot fathom, usg does not even exempt its own snoops from this.	[18:51]
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jurov	http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/02/1950234/microsoft-to-support-ssh-in-windows-and-contribute-to-openssh	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	twist : tyhey're really nk spyplanes	[18:52]
punkman	I remember some artist guy that dug-up a similar list of air transport shell companies that were used to move prisoners around	[18:52]
trinque	mircea_popescu: lol	[18:52]
williamdunne	jurov: Nice move, I'm still amazed .net is being OSS'd	[18:53]
williamdunne	I'm just hoping and praying Android ends up running .net	[18:53]
trinque	I'm skeptical that company can ever do anything right	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field easy to fathom tho. one of those rotten cases where the exemption is louder than the thing it covers.	[18:53]
williamdunne	trinque: Honestly, recently I think they've been doing some great stuff.	[18:54]
trinque	williamdunne: nadella does seem to be doing his damnedest to right the ship	[18:54]
trinque	we'll see	[18:54]
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williamdunne	Aye, Visual Studio community, OSS'ing .net being my two favourites	[18:55]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151841 << embrace, extend, extinguish (TM) (R)	[18:57]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 21:48:25; jurov: http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/02/1950234/microsoft-to-support-ssh-in-windows-and-contribute-to-openssh	[18:57]
trinque	^ this is exactly what I expect of their recent "great stuff"	[18:57]
trinque	openssh gets tied into some windows auth mechanism, so on	[18:58]
trinque	but who knows, apple looked dead once	[18:58]
ascii_field	microshit attempted this with every single thing it ever touched	[18:59]
trinque	still is dead for some measures	[18:59]
ascii_field	no exceptions	[18:59]
trinque	right, this looks just like how they approached the web. open standards? sure! sounds great	[18:59]
trinque	oh... try some activex though	[18:59]
trinque	williamdunne: does for example the open source .net ship any opaque binary wads?	[19:00]
trinque	if so, rootkit.	[19:00]
williamdunne	trinque: I don't believe so, but I haven't checked it in its entirely	[19:00]
jurov	mircea_popescu you've got depositz :)	[19:00]
trinque	williamdunne: or maybe the post-oracle virtualbox approach	[19:01]
trinque	where it has "non-free" extensions	[19:01]
williamdunne	IIRC the logic was that they want to promote their development tools, and premium products such as SQL server by making their stuff more prolific	[19:02]
kakobrekla	,,,-.--------čl	[19:03]
jurov	kako's cat has spoken	[19:03]
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kakobrekla	oh yeah sorry about that.	[19:07]
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trinque	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-usa-security-surveillance-passage-idUSKBN0OI2I920150602 << oh good, they added slightly more bureaucratic procedure to the surveillance, and decided they'd outsource the data storage to the companies themselves...	[19:12]
ascii_field	'But instead of routinely feeding U.S. intelligence agencies such data, the companies would be required to turn it over only in response to a government request approved by the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.' << l0l, the same 'court' which consists of a remotely-operated rubber stamp for director of intel.	[19:14]
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trinque	ascii_field: progress! this will cost far less. god bless the free market.	[19:15]
trinque	fascism is that thing where you cook jews in ovens, and wear stylish hugo boss uniforms, right?	[19:16]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[19:19]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9EEA1A9FB9290DC70739E70AB8E97F3FC0DB67BAE16B955D5BF0AD92FF9D8B3E << NOT in magic set	[19:19]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:19]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=jbollstrom%40gmail.com&op=index << tell-tale duplicate submission. but not the usual 32-bit walk thing	[19:21]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:21]
ascii_field	and it looks like somebody's ddosing sks ?	[19:21]
ascii_field	for perhaps a week now!	[19:21]
ascii_field	https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x342FA15421BD34F2 << diddled key for bollstrom; https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B >> his original	[19:23]
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ascii_field	http://dpaste.com/37KPXYY.txt	[19:24]
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ascii_field	http://imgur.com/V4CS5PF << diff	[19:28]
ascii_field	sig does not verify	[19:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56850 @ 0.00034783 = 19.7741 BTC [+]	[19:29]
punkman	looks like random finnish dude that like weed and anime, maybe a Silk Road customer https://joindiaspora.com/posts/730630	[19:30]
ascii_field	but of course, as with the 32-bit 'magic set', the bottom 32 are the same, and this key would probably work in some winblows turd pgptron	[19:30]
ascii_field	at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples.	[19:31]
jurov	ascii_field: neither url works	[19:31]
jurov	Page not found: /key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B	[19:31]
ascii_field	jurov: l0l!	[19:31]
ascii_field	must have -just now- been zapped	[19:32]
ascii_field	https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=jbollstrom%40gmail.com	[19:32]
ascii_field	try direct link?	[19:32]
ascii_field	diddled key is topmost	[19:32]
jurov	https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=bollstrom&fingerprint=on << can be got from here	[19:32]
ascii_field	see the earlier linked image for which bytes were altered	[19:34]
jurov	heh it's even visible in exported format	[19:35]
jurov	only 5th row changed	[19:35]
ascii_field	jurov: diff is of output of pgpdump -i	[19:35]
jurov	was bad endianness handling ever mentioned as possible culprit?	[19:39]
jurov	but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed	[19:40]
ascii_field	jurov: why would this affect the exponent (magic-98 set, rather than this latest one) and adjust the length field correctly ?	[19:40]
ascii_field	endian issue was the first hypothesis i considered - and rejected	[19:40]
ascii_field	jurov: those things were crafted. not a shred of doubt remains in my mind about it.	[19:41]
jurov	yea	[19:41]
ascii_field	crafted with an angle towards 'plausible deniability if one doesn't look too closely,' yes	[19:42]
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gabriel_laddel	artifexd: how goes gossipd?	[19:47]
trinque	I was just about to ask the same :)	[19:47]
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trinque	what's this, bots here to munch logs?	[19:51]
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shinohai	good evening all	[19:58]
williamdunne	Hi	[19:59]
shinohai	quiet evening here	[20:01]
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shinohai	well, evening for me anyway.	[20:01]
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alphonse23_	hello	[20:09]
danielpbarron	!up E8888____	[20:09]
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alphonse23_	I was voiced	[20:09]
alphonse23_	how is it everyone?	[20:09]
danielpbarron	yes, hi. who are you?	[20:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00034783 = 5.687 BTC [+]	[20:10]
alphonse23_	this is the channel that announced that they factore a 4067 rsa key	[20:10]
alphonse23_	or something like that	[20:10]
alphonse23_	maybe it wasn't 4067	[20:10]
danielpbarron	yeah something like that	[20:10]
danielpbarron	and you are the user who ... ?	[20:10]
trinque	alphonse23_: note that this does not mean RSA in the abstract is broken	[20:10]
trinque	it means some implementation may be	[20:10]
alphonse23_	4096	[20:11]
trinque	that's the one, yes	[20:11]
alphonse23_	factor of 2^n	[20:11]
alphonse23_	trinque: I know! I'm not that big of a noob	[20:11]
trinque	just tends to be the first thing that comes up	[20:12]
trinque	also, welcome	[20:12]
alphonse23_	HN was shaming that announcement	[20:12]
alphonse23_	claiming it was trolling	[20:12]
alphonse23_	was it really. explain yourselves!	[20:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5522 @ 0.00034783 = 1.9207 BTC [+]	[20:13]
danielpbarron	no, you explain yourself!	[20:13]
alphonse23_	fine!	[20:13]
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trinque	lolwtfbbq	[20:13]
shinohai	I have so much reading left to do danielpbarron	[20:13]
danielpbarron	same here	[20:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22658 @ 0.00034844 = 7.895 BTC [+]	[20:14]
trinque	danielpbarron: looks like he explained himself rather thoroughly eh?	[20:14]
shinohai	I'm trying to catch up on the entire mailing list before I joined. :/	[20:14]
danielpbarron	don't forget the log	[20:14]
shinohai	Yeah. I like the bash logs, I can even read those on android.	[20:15]
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shinohai	!up alphonse23_	[20:21]
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alphonse23_	and I'm back	[20:21]
alphonse23_	why does my irc service keep crashing.	[20:21]
trinque	alphonse23_: that irccloud thing seems like a turd	[20:21]
trinque	if the logs are any indication	[20:21]
alphonse23_	what do the logs say?	[20:21]
shinohai	I hate irccloud	[20:21]
alphonse23_	I pay for it	[20:21]
alphonse23_	I decided I use IRC enough to pay for the service	[20:21]
trinque	lolwut	[20:22]
trinque	irc is free man	[20:22]
alphonse23_	it is, but they do the archiving for you	[20:22]
alphonse23_	which is nice	[20:22]
shinohai	For real. I use a shell and weechat	[20:22]
trinque	you mean... logs?	[20:22]
trinque	alphonse23_: all clients do logs	[20:22]
alphonse23_	yes, they keep track of the history of all the channels I'm in	[20:22]
shinohai	I can grep logs right from my client	[20:22]
alphonse23_	so I never miss anything	[20:22]
alphonse23_	but it depends if the channel is logged	[20:22]
alphonse23_	not all channels are logged	[20:23]
gabriel_laddel	...	[20:23]
shinohai	nope, my client keeps logs	[20:23]
alphonse23_	I think I got it specificically for channels that I wanted to logged, that didn't have anyone doing it for them.	[20:23]
trinque	alphonse23_: dude, all clients log	[20:23]
alphonse23_	really? but do you keep your computer on at all times?	[20:23]
shinohai	unless you webcht	[20:23]
trinque	ah ok, I see what you mean by log now	[20:24]
trinque	alphonse23_: this is generally a "bouncer" you run elsewhere from your local computer	[20:24]
trinque	and which you connect to with your client	[20:24]
trinque	they've webified that, but people have done it since ancient times	[20:24]
ben_vulpes	webify all the things!	[20:24]
trinque	ben_vulpes: make app icon! raise 15m! year later, raze your business!	[20:25]
jurov	http://www.eulorum.org/Gameplay << this is literally all I have figured out after hours of gameplay.	[20:25]
jurov	i got some results from /explore but i have no idea about them yet	[20:25]
BingoBoingo	no, you explain yourself! << For the record in tis situation you coulda just linked http://nosuchlabs.com/stats	[20:27]
BingoBoingo	alphonse23_: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats	[20:27]
danielpbarron	oh is his key phucked?	[20:28]
alphonse23_	is a bouncer a server	[20:28]
BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: Not that I know of, but dude wanted to know if it was trolling, so the solution is point them to the fount of data	[20:28]
trinque	alphonse23_: yessir	[20:28]
alphonse23_	do I have to purchase the server?	[20:28]
trinque	alphonse23_: yup, or run a second box at home	[20:28]
trinque	decent intro to fiddling with such things if you never have	[20:29]
alphonse23_	well. maybe I could do that.	[20:29]
alphonse23_	I wonder though. I pay irccloud 5 dollars a month	[20:29]
BingoBoingo	alphonse23_: Well, if you want to be a dick you could use botnet slaves as IRC bouncer, but easier to leave an old machine on at home to bounce IRC. Black and white Macs are ideal	[20:29]
danielpbarron	i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok	[20:29]
alphonse23_	owning a server, even if it's through digital ocean, would still be slightly more expensive.	[20:29]
trinque	I think linode starts out at 10 bucks a month	[20:29]
alphonse23_	see, more than irccloud	[20:30]
trinque	tons of virtual hosting things out there	[20:30]
trinque	the main benefit would be learning	[20:30]
shinohai	try hashbang, it's free	[20:30]
alphonse23_	k, I have othing things I'd like to learn that to setup something to log an irc channel	[20:30]
BingoBoingo	WHo only logs one IRC channel?	[20:31]
alphonse23_	for instance, I'd like to actually understands rsa factoring	[20:31]
alphonse23_	does 4096 refer to the max size of one of the primes. or the primes multiplied togetheR?	[20:31]
BingoBoingo	alphonse23_: Once again http://nosuchlabs.com/stats uses euclid's greatest common divisor	[20:31]
trinque	!up NewLiberty	[20:31]
trinque	is teh arsebot sleepin?	[20:32]
alphonse23_	I bet even if I knew what that algorithm is, Id' still have doubts	[20:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4681 @ 0.00033561 = 1.571 BTC [-]	[20:32]
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NewLiberty	$10/month is about equiv to the electricity cost of a 120v machine running 24/7 for a year	[20:32]
BingoBoingo	trinque: Kako's cat prolly typed assbot too. Either that or there is another dispute over the pod bay doors.	[20:32]
BingoBoingo	NewLiberty: All depends on the machine and amps.	[20:33]
NewLiberty	good rule of thumb being $1/v/annum	[20:33]
trinque	BingoBoingo: dispute over the pod bay doors << bwhahahaha	[20:33]
NewLiberty	sure sure, some variation.	[20:33]
NewLiberty	I'm on solar so, up to what I produce, no added cost	[20:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00033561 = 18.1901 BTC [-]	[20:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00033561 = 1.1243 BTC [-]	[20:41]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market buttstamp	[20:46]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 225.2, Best ask: 225.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 225.31, 24 hour volume: 7750.11381028, 24 hour low: 221.34, 24 hour high: 226.38, 24 hour vwap: 223.644666851	[20:46]
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asciilifeform	!up alphonse23_	[21:10]
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asciilifeform	alphonse23_: you still there?	[21:10]
williamdunne	Pure hilarity on this show	[21:10]
alphonse23_	yup	[21:10]
alphonse23_	what's up	[21:10]
williamdunne	Two identical twin brothers at a festival, guy tries to cheat on his girlfriend with some bird	[21:10]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: author of 'phuctor' speaking. you had questions ?	[21:11]
williamdunne	Brother calls him out	[21:11]
williamdunne	They argue with each other	[21:11]
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williamdunne	The other brother fucks his bird	[21:11]
alphonse23_	what does 4096 refer to	[21:11]
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alphonse23_	the maximum size of the primes	[21:11]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: no. the size of the modulus, typically a product of two primes	[21:11]
alphonse23_	or the maximum size of what the two primes are multiplied to each other?	[21:11]
williamdunne	Bits of entropy	[21:11]
alphonse23_	so 4096 is the maximum size of the product of the two primes?	[21:12]
asciilifeform	aha.	[21:12]
williamdunne	Only on Debian	[21:12]
alphonse23_	doesn't that only leave a handful of primes though	[21:12]
alphonse23_	you could just check them all.	[21:12]
alphonse23_	right?	[21:12]
williamdunne	Yes	[21:12]
asciilifeform	is the question specifically concerning the buggy debian rng ?	[21:13]
asciilifeform	or rsa in general	[21:13]
williamdunne	RSA in general	[21:13]
williamdunne	Debian was a joke on my part	[21:13]
asciilifeform	williamdunne: i think we have a genuine noob here, and you are addling him	[21:14]
asciilifeform	williamdunne: please stop.	[21:14]
alphonse23_	i'm not that big of a noob	[21:15]
williamdunne	alphonse23_: This might help you understand what the 4096 means	[21:15]
williamdunne	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Password_strength	[21:15]
alphonse23_	just not an expert	[21:15]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: 'checking them all', given current of foreseeable technology, would take several thousand years.	[21:15]
alphonse23_	and what point are you not a noob	[21:15]
alphonse23_	maybe you can ask that about everything	[21:15]
alphonse23_	and maybe I shouldn't care	[21:15]
trinque	alphonse23_: noob's not an insult	[21:15]
trinque	"beginner's mind"	[21:15]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: rsa is not especially complicated. you can understand the basic idea after an hour's study	[21:16]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RSAEncryption.html for example.	[21:16]
alphonse23_	yea, I've read a fair share of online guides about it	[21:17]
alphonse23_	I kind of understand	[21:17]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/thematic_tutorials/numtheory_rsa.html << worked examples	[21:17]
alphonse23_	still don't get elliptical curve cryptography at all.	[21:18]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: 'phuctor' deals only with traditional rsa keys.	[21:18]
alphonse23_	twitter works on 2056 I think	[21:19]
alphonse23_	why no go decrypt some twitter traffic or something	[21:19]
alphonse23_	what's the purpose of all this?	[21:19]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: basic idea, which is very old, is that euclid's greatest-common-divisor algorithm is very fast, for arbitrarily large numbers. so if two or more rsa keys were to share a factor, it will pop up.	[21:19]
williamdunne	Can only break bad keys	[21:20]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: the idea is to find evidence of sabotaged implementations of rsa key generator.	[21:20]
alphonse23_	find the NSA at work?	[21:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33926 @ 0.00033308 = 11.3001 BTC [-]	[21:21]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: instead we found that someone is uploading carefully modified versions of other people's keys to sks key server net	[21:21]
alphonse23_	interesting	[21:23]
alphonse23_	I've never heard of the sks key server	[21:23]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: it isn't one specific server, but a network of mirrors	[21:23]
asciilifeform	entirely automatic	[21:23]
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asciilifeform	typically users of pgp/gpg upload their public keys there, and they can later be retrieved by anyone using a hash of the key	[21:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00033258 = 2.7937 BTC [-]	[21:24]
alphonse23_	oh, so if you want to store your pgp some where, so anyone can verify it's you, you upload it to sks	[21:24]
alphonse23_	i've been using a service called keybase.io lately. Is that a noob service?	[21:25]
ben_vulpes	!s keybase	[21:25]
assbot	64 results for 'keybase' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=keybase	[21:25]
shinohai	keybase blows	[21:25]
williamdunne	Personally I like it, just don't store your keys there	[21:26]
alphonse23_	I have some invite codes	[21:26]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: if you let them generate keys for you, they have your private key. this ought to be elementarily obvious	[21:26]
alphonse23_	if anyone wants them :)	[21:26]
alphonse23_	that's a good point asciilifeform	[21:26]
shinohai	Thats just it, I wouldn't be storing my keys there.	[21:26]
alphonse23_	that generate the primes right in front of you! :)	[21:26]
alphonse23_	*they generate the primes	[21:26]
williamdunne	shinohai: Exactly, you don't have to, to use the service :)	[21:26]
alphonse23_	I guess it's made very user friendly though	[21:27]
shinohai	It's nice and all, but I just don't see the advantage over plain gpg	[21:27]
alphonse23_	it comes with a CLI app that lets you verify anyone on their servers	[21:27]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: it is 'user friendly' in the same way that a mousetrap is mouse-friendly	[21:27]
trinque	alphonse23_: ever heard "if it's free, you're the product" ?	[21:27]
alphonse23_	maybe though the issue is, where would one store a public key. on whose server	[21:27]
alphonse23_	it would probably be like facebook, if it ever got popular. Which ever server became the most widespread.	[21:28]
shinohai	Don't. Use a keyring or a yubi.	[21:28]
BingoBoingo	maybe though the issue is, where would one store a public key. on whose server << Ideally if you want people to find your public key you spray it all over, but especially spray it in venues associated with your identity.	[21:28]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: there is a large and well-established network of public key servers. e.g., https://pgp.mit.edu and other sks	[21:29]
alphonse23_	I have many online identities. I think keybase.io purpose is to verify and unify those identities	[21:29]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: they all mirror one another.	[21:29]
alphonse23_	so people know it's you	[21:29]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: for people whom you will never meet, 'you' are the key. and nothing else.	[21:30]
alphonse23_	had no idea. I only used keybase.io because someone I know was using it, and I thought it was a great idea.	[21:30]
trinque	alphonse23_: if someone other than you knows your private key, it is by definition not private	[21:30]
alphonse23_	I don't give out my private key	[21:30]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: except to keybase?	[21:30]
danielpbarron	alphonse23_, the sites that keybase lets you link to your identity aren't really worth linking to your identity	[21:31]
alphonse23_	well. they don't have my private key	[21:31]
shinohai	^ danielpbarron	[21:31]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: if you let them generate it, they have it	[21:31]
trinque	keybase sticks it in browser local storage, right?	[21:31]
alphonse23_	but they did show the primes generated for it when I signed up for the service	[21:31]
trinque	alphonse23_: all they have to do is ship you some javascript once that reads that and transmits it elsewhere	[21:31]
alphonse23_	so you could say it's a compromised service	[21:31]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: the very idea is braindamaged	[21:31]
alphonse23_	ok fine. But should I not trust keybase...	[21:32]
alphonse23_	I'm not sure. I was just trying out the service	[21:32]
williamdunne	alphonse23_: Its compromised if you a) generate your keys with them, or b) store your keys with them.	[21:32]
alphonse23_	but yes, I should probably micromanage my own keys and passwords	[21:32]
williamdunne	Its not even micromanaging, its just owning	[21:33]
trinque	one should use the same precautions with their bitcoin private keys.	[21:34]
trinque	you only own the coin if you own the private keys in the strictest sense	[21:34]
danielpbarron	the recommendation in here is to not even use newer versions of gpg, let alone some add-on made by a dating website guy	[21:34]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: if someone else has a copy of your private key, whether because you let them generate it for you, or gave it up for storage for 'convenience', he can do anything which you can do. this ought to be obvious	[21:35]
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danielpbarron	!up alphonse23_	[21:42]
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alphonse23_	well. like I know that.	[21:42]
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BingoBoingo	alphonse23_: Well you do now. The question is what are you going to do about it?	[21:42]
alphonse23_	I'm going to become paranoid, and start keeping track of my own keys	[21:43]
alphonse23_	and stop being naive and trying out services from guys who start dating websites	[21:43]
trinque	!b 3	[21:44]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1STHGCG.txt )	[21:44]
trinque	bravo!	[21:44]
alphonse23_	I've actually been meaning to start using a key locker or something	[21:44]
alphonse23_	but I haven't been able to find one.	[21:44]
alphonse23_	any recommendations	[21:44]
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asciilifeform	alphonse23_: what is a 'key locker' ?	[21:44]
alphonse23_	like, not necessarily a key locker, but somewhere to store passwords	[21:44]
asciilifeform	alphonse23_: you already own a device for storing passwords. it is attached to your shoulders.	[21:45]
alphonse23_	my brain	[21:46]
alphonse23_	but I use a lot of services online	[21:46]
ben_vulpes	passwords.gpg	[21:46]
alphonse23_	and I don't really keep track of all my passwords	[21:46]
alphonse23_	but I should	[21:46]
alphonse23_	but I've been using the internet for years now.	[21:46]
ben_vulpes	derpy_web_passwords.gpg	[21:46]
ben_vulpes	super_important_passwords.gpg	[21:46]
alphonse23_	k	[21:49]
alphonse23_	I'll do that	[21:49]
alphonse23_	thanks bitcon-assets	[21:50]
punkman	this uses gpg http://www.passwordstore.org/	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	I've found KeyPassX adequate for storing tons of derpy web passwords. Also available on pretty much any OD	[21:59]
BingoBoingo	*OS	[21:59]
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ben_vulpes	punkman: hey that's neat	[22:02]
punkman	I usually recommend Keepass to people that have been using a single password for the past 15 years	[22:03]
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BingoBoingo	I've been using it a while every version I used is the same local machine only deal that encrypts the derpy web passwords together in a single database file. Working on all the *nixen is a plus	[22:07]
shinohai	http://marcwebbie.io/passpie/	[22:08]
mod6	<+mircea_popescu> mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help << yeah, certainly on testing. i bought a pos box to use to build a physical gentoo box guide. i messed up something now grub is unhappy. I havne't been able to take a decent look at it since sunday morning.	[22:08]
mod6	Anyway, help/testing is always welcome.	[22:09]
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shinohai	testing on what mod6 ?	[22:09]
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danielpbarron	i ran into issues with grub as well; ended up using the older version	[22:21]
mod6	shinohai: oh, im creating a guide on how to build gentoo on a physical box. it seems that the handbook covers it mostly. except for me I had problems with some things.	[22:23]
mod6	gentoo is a nightmare.	[22:23]
danielpbarron	once it's working it's quite nice	[22:24]
mod6	but it has this uclibc hardened stage3 that i'd like to try out as a platform from which we can utilize building and testing the R. I.	[22:24]
mod6	danielpbarron: i'll never enjoy it, i come from bsd. :]	[22:25]
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mod6	anyway, yeah, im sure i just did something dumb on my end with gentoo. i got it working fine on AWS.	[22:31]
mod6	im beginning to be skeptical that anyone can just get this working very easily though.	[22:32]
shinohai	I haven't delved into gentoo :/	[22:32]
mod6	so hopefully the guide I create will make it a bit easier. hopefully.	[22:32]
shinohai	btw, bitcoind built swimmingly on Ubuntu 14.04	[22:33]
shinohai	Even though I don't like/use Ubuntu - it works.	[22:33]
mod6	good to hear. thx :]	[22:34]
mod6	x86-64 im guessing?	[22:34]
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shinohai	yes	[22:36]
shinohai	I just got bored and wanted to see if it would work on a spare shell I had.	[22:37]
mod6	cool, thanks!	[22:37]
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shinohai	Everyone wants to know when you guys are gonna release the Windoze version /s	[22:38]
mod6	Update: v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is at block: 335628	[22:38]
mod6	shinohai: haha.	[22:39]
shinohai	I haven't applied that patch yet :/	[22:39]
mod6	oh the 2 orphange ones?	[22:41]
mod6	i wouldn't worry about it. these are experimental as of now. at a later time, they maybe included in a milestone release.	[22:42]
mod6	unless you wanna test those seperately from your v0.5.3.1-RELEASE version	[22:43]
shinohai	Awesum. I hold off because I'm lazy and waiting for the first one to sync	[22:43]
mod6	yeah, sounds good.	[22:43]
shinohai	I need to set up an image to test on. I was gonna try an Arch image.	[22:43]
mod6	cool, if you do, let us know how it works out	[22:44]
shinohai	I have this crazy idea of getting it to run on those little arch images that work on Android	[22:45]
shinohai	xD	[22:45]
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decimation	outragous usg law > http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2014/09/25/11th-circuit-court-of-appeals-panel-kowtows-to-tsa/	[23:28]
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decimation	https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46110 < " Findings of fact by the Secretary, Under Secretary, or Administrator, if supported by substantial evidence, are conclusive. "	[23:29]
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mircea_popescu	decimation soviet justice moved more and more towards administrative adjudication too	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	soon enough thewy had police courts.	[23:32]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform aha.	[23:33]
decimation	heh what is a 'police court'	[23:33]
decimation	a collection of police who decide to throw you in the gulag?	[23:34]
decimation	more and more it seems like the judicial branch simply acts as a rubber stamp for the executive	[23:34]
decimation	and where it might have a modicum of oversight, congress stamps it down	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	a police court is the choice way to deal with drunks and domestic disputes.	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	as the citizenry loses intellectual capacity and political standing, all its complaints look more and more like the results of drunken revelry and sexual stubbornness	[23:36]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform also, 29 is a new prime innit.	[23:37]
decimation	'drunks and domestic disputes' consume the vast majority of the court's time	[23:37]
decimation	somehow they are in a hurry to get back to them, rather than thinking about the wider ramifications of the government's assertations	[23:38]
decimation	at any rate, that papersplease.org is a pretty good blog, has much to say on the police state in the us, especially with with respect to flying	[23:38]
BingoBoingo	'drunks and domestic disputes' consume the vast majority of the court's time << Fuck you my case has only been a plaque in neighboring county's arteries for two years nao	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	lol	[23:40]
decimation	BingoBoingo: ask any cop what the majority of his calls are, and generally the answer is 'domestics'	[23:41]
decimation	and generally the domestics involve drunks	[23:41]
BingoBoingo	decimation: this particular local most 911 calls are loud cars after 10pm	[23:42]
decimation	heh	[23:42]
decimation	loud cars suck. for some reason americans are in love with enragingly loud cars/motorbikes	[23:42]
BingoBoingo	Fuck, I really am torn on whether ot not to approve spam comment for "mosin nagant 10 round magazine"	[23:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33956 @ 0.00033312 = 11.3114 BTC [+]	[23:44]
BingoBoingo	But I mean if the US Supreme court takes the Elonis case's legacy further... they will have to answer is drunk a Mens Rea	[23:44]
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decimation	americans can be herded like cattle through airports, tracked, tagged, and spied upon, but they really get pissed if you try to clamp down on loud/poorly operating cars/bikes	[23:44]
decimation	'you can't take away our freedom'	[23:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00033312 = 4.0974 BTC [+]	[23:45]
mod6	http://qntra.net/2015/06/foundation-report-bring-bitcoin-client-performance-improvement-and-testing/#comment-25527 << speaking of comments, this was nice.	[23:45]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: l0l, mosin took stripperclips not mags	[23:45]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Yeah. Imma guessing that the product is replacement for the fixed factory mag which would hold 10 rounds instead of 5, but link leads nowhere comprehensible in browser.	[23:46]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: see log for diff, incl. screenshot of visualdiff	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	mod6: As best as I can tell twas not a #b-a regular who said that so major props	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151853 << there wasn't that much there to extinguish in the first place.	[23:47]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 21:52:56; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151841 << embrace, extend, extinguish (TM) (R)	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	openssh is probably the most important contribution to software insecurity in history of computing.	[23:47]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that'd be openssl	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Confusing it with OpenSSL again	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	darn	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	wait	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	OpenSSH is the OpenBSD ssh implementation	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	windows is putting SSH in ?!	[23:48]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[23:48]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that was the item, yes	[23:48]
decimation	asciilifeform: have you used coverity?	[23:48]
asciilifeform	must inject microshit into the one protocol which had no microshittery, yes	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	i had thought they had just given up on their own version of telnet-ssl.	[23:49]
asciilifeform	decimation: nope	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	since "open source"-usg is doing so well at it.	[23:49]
decimation	apparently coverity allows you to submit your code/binary to their tool, will spit out potential bugs	[23:50]
decimation	it might be mildly interesting to do so for the bitcoin reference implementation	[23:50]
decimation	I would fully expect reams of shit though	[23:50]
BingoBoingo	Honestly I worry moar for pete and the other Candidians than I do for the USians.	[23:50]
asciilifeform	decimation: 1) take 'lint' 2) close source, put on www as-service 3) ??? 4) profit!!11!!1	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	decimation how does it work ?	[23:50]
decimation	heh I don't think it's that simple	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	basically what alf said + benefit of doubt.	[23:50]
BingoBoingo	Must collect arms in case defense of Theo becomes necessary	[23:51]
decimation	https://scan.coverity.com/ < here's the ad page	[23:51]
decimation	I have no doubt it would produce much noise, but it is a possible starting point	[23:51]
decimation	interestingly 'bitcoin' has already been submitted	[23:51]
asciilifeform	where is the output ?	[23:52]
decimation	https://scan.coverity.com/projects/1683	[23:52]
decimation	I think you need to get an account, I will try to see if it is that easy	[23:52]
decimation	I'm not sure if they also submitted the deps, but bitcoin weighs in at 16 million lines of code	[23:53]
asciilifeform	l0l wat	[23:53]
decimation	yes, that's what the scanner says	[23:54]
mod6	haha	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151875 << dawg, did i call it or did i call it lmao	[23:54]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 22:08:48; trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-usa-security-surveillance-passage-idUSKBN0OI2I920150602 << oh good, they added slightly more bureaucratic procedure to the surveillance, and decided they'd outsource the data storage to the companies themselves...	[23:54]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the lulzy part is that it was -already- handled this way. only thing that will change (once anyone gets around to it) is a few lines in a spreadshit	[23:54]
asciilifeform	for accounting	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	meyah	[23:55]
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asciilifeform	http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1128	[23:55]
asciilifeform	'Andy confirmed that Coverity does not spot the heartbleed flaw and said that it remained stubborn even when they tweaked various analysis settings.'	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151894 << yes, actually.	[23:55]
decimation	heh yeah	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform generally, it is a safe assumption that any diddlomatics coming out of nsa are highly engineered to bypass automatic detection	[23:56]
BingoBoingo	'Andy confirmed that Coverity does not spot the heartbleed flaw and said that it remained stubborn even when they tweaked various analysis settings.' << Can't spot heartbleed because custom OpenSSL malloc	[23:56]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 22:27:24; ascii_field: at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples.	[23:56]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the basic concept that must be understood is that c/cpp are entirely impossible to 'reason' about mechanically	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151908 << it was mentioned, came to this same problem	[23:57]
assbot	Logged on 02-06-2015 22:35:55; jurov: but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed	[23:57]
asciilifeform	due to the way pointer arithmetic works	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	custom OpenSSL malloc and its impenatrability is why OpenBSD forked LibreSSL	[23:58]
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asciilifeform	languages where a program is intended to be 'rationated' by means of machine, tend to be agonizingly restrictive	[23:58]
asciilifeform	!s ada ravenscar	[23:58]
assbot	0 results for 'ada ravenscar' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ada+ravenscar	[23:58]
asciilifeform	!s ravenscar	[23:58]
assbot	0 results for 'ravenscar' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ravenscar	[23:58]
asciilifeform	hm	[23:58]
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asciilifeform	http://docs.adacore.com/sparkdocs-docs/Examiner_Ravenscar.htm	[23:58]
decimation	I thought it was SPARK	[23:58]
decimation	http://spinroot.com/p10/ < 10 rules for safety critical code	[23:59]
decimation	bitcoin violates nearly all of them	[23:59]
asciilifeform	decimation: 'ravenscar' is a yet-more-bsdm-ish spark	[23:59]
decimation	heh awesome	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	alphonse23_ you read http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/ an http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/ i expect ?	[23:59]

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