Forum logs for 02 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
williamdunne Seems extreme [00:01]
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trinque williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask [00:04]
williamdunne I'm not entirely sure what he said means, but it didn't sound that disrespectful [00:04]
trinque I heard "fuck you" "gpg isn't that important" and "this place isn't that important" [00:05]
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trinque this aside, decrypting a message from assbot takes far less time than his protestations that "it's pointless!" [00:05]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [08:47]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [08:47]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 [08:47]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice. [08:47]
mircea_popescu copypaste heh yeah some ddosing. [08:47]
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mircea_popescu copypaste heh yeah, there's some kid figures himself hot stuff [08:48]
mircea_popescu buys a little ddos now and again when his allowance allows. [08:48]
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mircea_popescu deedbot- http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ [08:50]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [08:50]
jurov deedbot doesn't do html [08:51]
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mircea_popescu aha yeah. ima fix it in a sec [08:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00033128 = 8.8783 BTC [-] {2} [08:52]
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jurov i spent hours roaming the landscape and searching for anything to pick up.. not very impressive first impression [08:58]
Jezzz joecool joesmoe JPT Jrum julmac jurov [09:00]
mircea_popescu you gotta explore jurov [09:00]
mircea_popescu as in /explore [09:00]
jurov it says i don't have skill for that [09:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00033756 = 6.6499 BTC [+] [09:01]
mircea_popescu ah, there's an item hidden around that gives the skill for that [09:01]
jurov lol [09:01]
mircea_popescu too well hidden huh ? :D [09:01]
jurov i keep finding only chicken scribbles and mysterious stones [09:02]
jurov and other kinds of stones [09:02]
mircea_popescu there's another one :D [09:07]
jurov where? underwater? [09:11]
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chetty just checked the db to be sure, there are indeed another item out there...but I suppose I should go actually look [09:12]
mircea_popescu nah, overland [09:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00032677 = 8.0385 BTC [-] [09:14]
jurov another mysterious rock.. i give up, will exchange for whatever exploring skill [09:20]
jurov if that item is supposed to be ceramic, maybe i don't see it [09:22]
jurov crystalspace.maploader.parse.image: [09:22]
jurov Could not open image file 'ceramic_dds' on VFS! [09:22]
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BingoBoingo jurov: Interested in reviewing the Eulora beta for qntra? [09:27]
jurov i'd prefer not to. i want it to succeed. [09:28]
jurov i'd be like "everyone keeps telling me to /explore but i could not find in 3 hours the item that enables it" [09:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00033787 = 14.3933 BTC [+] {2} [09:30]
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BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski [09:34]
* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [09:34]
mircea_popescu jurov reports are in : the item's there alright. [09:34]
mircea_popescu before you find it, you can still craft [09:35]
mircea_popescu but you'll have to buy shiot from merchant to get you started [09:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51550 @ 0.00032785 = 16.9007 BTC [-] {2} [09:40]
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* assbot gives voice to pete_dushenski [09:42]
* pete_dushenski is home again. [09:43]
pete_dushenski thanks be to all who !up'd me while away ! [09:43]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/0FW45QS << the involved ips, if anyone cares. [09:47]
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williamdunne Involved in testing Eurola? [09:50]
mircea_popescu involved in ddosing mah server earlier [09:51]
mircea_popescu what copypaste reported. [09:51]
williamdunne Ah that makes more sense [09:51]
williamdunne Seemed like too many [09:51]
mircea_popescu moving on to step two of my day, breakfast! after which ima make more eulora accts, mike_c danielpbarron an who else wanted. [09:52]
pete_dushenski "Popescu you're the dumbest fuck on the planet and have no authority to call anyone else an idiot." << quite the saucy qntra commenter [09:56]
pete_dushenski NO AUTHORITAY!11 [09:56]
pete_dushenski one can only imagine who said dumbfuck imagines qualified to call others idiots [09:57]
mircea_popescu o.O [09:57]
mircea_popescu well at least this one can spell. [09:57]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/05/ross-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/#comment-25515 << lots of angry on the interwebs. who knew. [09:59]
mircea_popescu (other than any woman over 20) [09:59]
pete_dushenski women over 20 are calmer ? [10:00]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150845 << heh. 'el minimo...' [10:00]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 02:59:59; trinque: williamdunne: modicum of respect is not a big ask [10:00]
mircea_popescu no, just, if they try and date they're gonna meet 'em [10:00]
pete_dushenski fair enough [10:02]
mircea_popescu ask anyone. "impotent anger, #1 red flag". [10:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39299 @ 0.00033202 = 13.0481 BTC [+] [10:03]
jurov from #eulora: nah just wait a minute or so, death hasnt really been implemented yet [10:03]
jurov hahahaha [10:03]
mircea_popescu jurov dja have any idea how sadpuppies anyone'd have been if i implemented death before marriage ? [10:03]
mircea_popescu not even irl god has that rotten a sense o humor. [10:04]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150578 << solid little tour ! [10:04]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 01:01:40; williamdunne: I'm pretty fucking excited, Bucharest -> Prague -> Istanbul is gonna be fun [10:04]
mircea_popescu those aren't in order are they ? [10:04]
jurov really, this needs much more time to be able to grasp the game idea and write something positive [10:04]
mircea_popescu anyway, istanbul's great, prague's fulla sluts and therefore greater. bucharest... whatevs. [10:04]
pete_dushenski of those 3, prague definitely has the best womenz [10:05]
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* mircea_popescu prefers the turkish 35lb butt to the czech slender type [10:06]
pete_dushenski prague and istanbul both have fantastic food, bucharest is meh in this regard as well [10:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87550 @ 0.00033824 = 29.6129 BTC [+] {2} [10:07]
pete_dushenski romanian women would be right in between the bubblebutturks and the skinnyczechs [10:07]
pete_dushenski more skeptical in their disposition too [10:07]
pete_dushenski which can only lead to better conversation [10:08]
mircea_popescu they can curse better than either [10:08]
mircea_popescu THAT can lead to excellent conversation [10:08]
mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3TCDRSQ.txt [10:09]
pete_dushenski i'd say romanian chicks are just sharper in general [10:09]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [10:09]
mircea_popescu this may well be true [10:10]
* mircea_popescu is happy with the quality of female.ro intellect [10:10]
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pete_dushenski from all the ones i've come across, an admittedly smaller but still far from zero quantity, female.ro is right up there with the best of 'em [10:12]
pete_dushenski for intellect. [10:12]
mircea_popescu course you probably stuck to the danube plain, where all the garbage ends up. [10:12]
mod6 Update: full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 326594 [10:13]
mircea_popescu cool. [10:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 182200 @ 0.00034148 = 62.2177 BTC [+] {8} [10:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3251 @ 0.00033202 = 1.0794 BTC [-] [10:17]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i'm talking mostly about the ones that've made their way to canada [10:20]
mircea_popescu aok [10:20]
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pete_dushenski plus, when i was in romania, i was in sinaia, brasov, timisoara, and a few other places, not just danube :) [10:21]
pete_dushenski speaking of traveling, fuck me if i don't have four sets of friends who just got engaged in the last month or two [10:23]
pete_dushenski if another one of them has a wedding at the same time as $conference.... [10:23]
pete_dushenski c4, that is. [10:23]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Well, warn them nao [10:23]
pete_dushenski and spoil the look on their face when i tell them that something in the world might be more important than their wedding ? [10:25]
pete_dushenski "One way to un-cast the Islamic State’s spell over its adherents would be to overpower it militarily and occupy the parts of Syria and Iraq now under caliphate rule. Al‑Qaeda is ineradicable because it can survive, cockroach-like, by going underground. The Islamic State cannot. If it loses its grip on its territory in Syria and Iraq, it will cease to be a caliphate. Caliphates cannot exist as underground mov [10:26]
pete_dushenski ements, because territorial authority is a requirement: take away its command of territory, and all those oaths of allegiance are no longer binding. Former pledges could of course continue to attack the West and behead their enemies, as freelancers. But the propaganda value of the caliphate would disappear, and with it the supposed religious duty to immigrate and serve it. [10:26]
pete_dushenski ^seriously, where do people get these swiss cheese heads ? [10:26]
* assbot gives voice to menahem [10:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29352 @ 0.00032677 = 9.5914 BTC [-] [10:27]
pete_dushenski isis is no more capable of being destroyed by the usa's excuse for a military than al-queda was [10:27]
pete_dushenski fuck, al-queda should've been a walk in the park by comparison. [10:27]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski roflmao. "one way to stop sucking would be to rule instead" [10:28]
jurov they're more like taleban [10:28]
mircea_popescu you don't fucking say... [10:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, for the record, the only cockroaches in the middle west are the americans atm. [10:28]
pete_dushenski middle east ? [10:28]
mircea_popescu their underground being made up out of random social media [10:28]
pete_dushenski not that midwest isn't also full of 'em [10:29]
mircea_popescu well yeah. [10:29]
mircea_popescu anyway, who the fuck came up with the territorial nonsense quoited above anyway ? [10:29]
pete_dushenski http://gcaw.net/ << graeme wood in an article for 'the atlantic' [10:30]
mircea_popescu you'd think people actuaslly involved in strategic planning have enough of a tin ear to hear the sort of "o noes, things aren't like we have emotionally invested ourselves into them being, let us rehash how trhings shjould be so we don't have to change or even examine our priors" whine. [10:30]
pete_dushenski http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ [10:30]
mircea_popescu territory's not worth squat. bitcoin, tmsr~ does actually better than any known state PRECISELY because all its territory is virtual. [10:31]
mircea_popescu territory was important when the economy was based on working the land. [10:31]
mircea_popescu then the industrial revolution came, and england was the size of a cumsplotch, and it didn't matter. [10:31]
mircea_popescu today... [10:31]
mircea_popescu heh, why do i even bother. [10:31]
pete_dushenski keep going ! [10:32]
mircea_popescu lol [10:32]
* assbot gives voice to nubbins` [10:32]
nubbins` more like slowassbot [10:32]
mircea_popescu find me a state in the history of the world that can run the sort of deficits we run. [10:32]
nubbins` my timely quip is no longer timely [10:32]
decimation can't eat a digital biscuit [10:32]
mircea_popescu slownubs ? [10:32]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: heh. [10:32]
mircea_popescu decimation you know this is what people said too ? "can't eat an iron sword" [10:32]
mircea_popescu yeah dude, you can. and it's your choice to either feed me or eat it. how about that. [10:33]
pete_dushenski mp hungry. [10:33]
mircea_popescu i can't eat a digital biscuit, meanwhile you go make someone shove pens in his butt, without the digital biscuit. [10:33]
nubbins` so i just got this in an email from my isp [10:34]
nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/3C9GNZW.png [10:34]
* nubbins` golf claps [10:34]
decimation the surplus of bitcoin failed to help dpr [10:34]
nubbins` graphs are non-accurate tho [10:34]
mircea_popescu 100 mb, not so bad. [10:34]
mircea_popescu decimation and the pretorian guard failed to help nero. [10:34]
pete_dushenski decimation: it's necessary but not sufficient [10:34]
nubbins` mild panic this past winter when i realized the obstruction my metal snow shovel wouldn't pound through was... fibre into the house [10:35]
nubbins` but it was ok! [10:35]
pete_dushenski dpr lacked surplus of intelligence in other regards [10:35]
mircea_popescu they're reinforced to hell precisely because of people like you. [10:35]
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nubbins` well, you're welcome [10:35]
mircea_popescu lol [10:35]
mircea_popescu srsly, for about 10 years it was like "omfg world please stop cutting cables" [10:35]
nubbins` guy asked me if i wanted fibre to the pole or the door [10:35]
mircea_popescu world went "sorrieh!!1s" [10:35]
mircea_popescu eventually it was "fuck this shit, we make them as tough as pipes" [10:36]
nubbins` "is it any extra fee to bring it to the door?" "nope" "what kinda beer do you drink?" [10:36]
mircea_popescu suddenly... 99% drop in accidental cuttings [10:36]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: what modem do you have ? [10:36]
nubbins` pete it's an "actiontech" or smth [10:36]
mircea_popescu the modem not the hot tub [10:36]
nubbins` actiontec [10:37]
pete_dushenski i'm in the market for a new modem. don't want to swallow whatever cisco garbage shaw cable provides [10:37]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski pogo. [10:37]
* pete_dushenski hadn't considered this... [10:37]
nubbins` actually sorry [10:39]
nubbins` here's where the fibre ends [10:39]
nubbins` http://www.muamat.com/adpics/53627a873210bc5d72fa8a32a.jpg [10:39]
nubbins` it's an i-240g-b [10:39]
nubbins` hm, apparently this actiontec router might be worth tossing [10:40]
pete_dushenski a neato [10:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17939 @ 0.00032139 = 5.7654 BTC [-] [10:41]
pete_dushenski http://www.hitrontech.com/en/cable_detail.php?id=62 << this appears to be local cable co's new offering [10:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7311 @ 0.00032061 = 2.344 BTC [-] [10:45]
scoopbot_revived Elonis Wins At US Supreme Court http://qntra.net/2015/06/elonis-wins-at-us-supreme-court/ [10:45]
williamdunne Scoopbot is behaving well [10:45]
BingoBoingo For now [10:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22948 @ 0.00032308 = 7.414 BTC [+] {3} [10:46]
mircea_popescu williamdunne yeah not bad [10:47]
williamdunne Yeah, think he last went down maybe two weeks ago? [10:47]
williamdunne Guessing the new reconnecting stuff actually works [10:47]
* BingoBoingo still has the expectation that scooping bots go rogue [10:47]
BingoBoingo Like Deeding bots go missing [10:47]
* williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot [10:47]
BingoBoingo And assbot makes the world go round [10:48]
BingoBoingo * williamdunne is actually just sitting at home refreshing people's RSS feeds pretending to be a bot << Oh, that's how oglafbot works [10:48]
williamdunne Aha really? Thats kinda funny [10:48]
williamdunne Although I guess you just have to check every Sunday so not too bad [10:49]
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d9b4bef9 danielpbarron davout decimation deedbot- diametric dignork donpillou dooglus [10:50]
williamdunne http://oglaf.com/feeds/rss/ [10:50]
williamdunne If you want I could just add oglaf to scoopbot.. [10:50]
mircea_popescu yes. [10:51]
BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGA8HcHWMAASfqV.jpg [10:51]
mircea_popescu mike_c http://dpaste.com/3VSXH7F [10:52]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron http://dpaste.com/0Y1XJ8D [10:53]
scoopbot_revived BitBet (S.BBET) May 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-may-2015-statement/ [10:56]
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mircea_popescu mod6 http://dpaste.com/1YMM4N3 [10:57]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149668 << lol frenchie's a hardass and i suspect he's growing a moustache! [11:01]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 14:47:09; davout: bye! [11:01]
nubbins` here's one for asciilifeform [11:01]
nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/eIuHT8a.jpg [11:01]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149703 << whjat the fuck sort of failed cult is this then [11:03]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 15:06:01; shinohai: This is about the only place that isn't an echo chamber anymore sadly. [11:03]
mircea_popescu i didn't sign up for this! [11:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` poultry dildo ? [11:03]
nubbins` bluetooth dongle w/ fake antenna [11:03]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Its okay, the cult has been restored with a t-shirt with your face on it [11:04]
williamdunne I'm impressed so far with Romanian hospitality [11:04]
mircea_popescu the disadvantage of being romanian [11:05]
williamdunne 23:48:16 - menahem: what do you guys think of this tee ? [11:05]
williamdunne 23:48:18 - menahem: http://screencast.com/t/LxNozQwn7t3 [11:05]
williamdunne 23:49:17 - williamdunne: Well, its official, we're a cult. [11:05]
williamdunne 23:49:19 - menahem: hahaha [11:05]
williamdunne 23:51:05 - menahem: debating if i should add a quote to it [11:05]
mircea_popescu anywhere you go, you're unimpressed with the local assholery. [11:05]
williamdunne 23:51:45 - williamdunne: "I'm better than you" should suffice [11:05]
williamdunne 23:52:53 - menahem: "this Bitcock ain't gonna suck itself." [11:05]
williamdunne 23:53:41 - WolfGoethe [~textual@cpe-74-66-238-187.nyc.res.rr.com] entered the room. [11:05]
williamdunne 23:53:47 - williamdunne: +1 [11:05]
williamdunne 23:53:51 - williamdunne: Fuck it, I'd buy it [11:05]
williamdunne Aha [11:05]
mircea_popescu ahahaha wut. [11:05]
williamdunne It really is incredible how helpful the lady has been, I'm used to the standard snobbery from others in her position [11:06]
williamdunne Yeah [11:06]
williamdunne It actually doesn't look half-bad on the t-shirt [11:06]
mircea_popescu if georgie ouzounian runs into you somewhere in dusty utah and you're wearing that shirt and it reads "I'm better than you" he's probably going to accost you. [11:06]
williamdunne I'm not awful at running, I'll take my chances [11:07]
nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150951 [11:08]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:11; nubbins`: mircea_popescu, your outstanding shipping bill is $70 and i still have a box of NSA tees taking up space in my studio [11:08]
nubbins` ! [11:08]
mircea_popescu i know! [11:08]
mircea_popescu are you sueing me yet ? [11:08]
nubbins` no, but: [11:08]
nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150952 [11:08]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 10:34:32; nubbins`: given that the outstanding debt and the box of tees are 18 months old and 20 months old, respectively, i think it's time we settle up [11:08]
mircea_popescu aha aite. [11:08]
mircea_popescu addy ? [11:08]
nubbins` 1CzZMzXzA9jtRDNEcG1jzfL5MfxRyVjUxD [11:09]
mircea_popescu this has been the most distant christmas in hystory, but! apparently it's coming. [11:09]
nubbins` woo [11:09]
mircea_popescu nubbins` ima send you 0.(3) bitcoin [11:09]
nubbins` i'll shake the spiders out of the remaining inventory at no extra charge [11:09]
mircea_popescu tyvm o.O [11:10]
nubbins` HEH [11:10]
mircea_popescu what sort of industrial warehouse do you run in your own house over there!! [11:10]
mircea_popescu spiders ?! [11:10]
nubbins` sec, i have pix [11:10]
nubbins` found a crazy one today [11:10]
nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/ak5LjiC.jpg [11:11]
mircea_popescu that's not so bad [11:11]
nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/jXuwMo7.jpg [11:12]
nubbins` looked less intimidating outdoors [11:13]
mircea_popescu wolf spiders, they chase! [11:13]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_may9nl7Nmj1qzeiaco1_1280.jpg [11:15]
mircea_popescu tijuana abortions ever more gruesome [11:16]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150070 << word. [11:18]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 20:16:56; trinque: little guy seems to be doing alright [11:18]
nubbins` found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegenaria_domestica [11:18]
mircea_popescu ayup [11:19]
nubbins` in other news, we're prolly gonna break last year's gross income by late july [11:24]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151226 << looks like a dude 'enjoying' a homemade dulap !? [11:28]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 14:10:57; mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_may9nl7Nmj1qzeiaco1_1280.jpg [11:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform or that. [11:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: update since last night: got reply from mf. they will re-do the duds. [11:30]
thestringpuller ;;isup qntra.net [11:30]
gribble qntra.net is down [11:30]
thestringpuller qntra crashed [11:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform cool [11:32]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller yaya, moar wiff teh script kiddies. [11:34]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151037 << obligatory >> http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s129/PeaceNikki72/uAgkm.jpg << originally a u.s. politico spoof, but has been 'memed' for many years with various photodiddles [11:35]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 12:59:03; mircea_popescu: ask anyone. "impotent anger, #1 red flag". [11:35]
asciilifeform in other lulz, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DB096A7B64B9F4A9CE82785D9AF80E50E2AAE4BCC607BF6BFDACDD92BF65873C << we already had it in 'magic 98' yes [11:36]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i've been told to use hate as a measurement of success. [11:37]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: 'oderint dum metuant' (TM) (R) [11:38]
nubbins` gr8 h8 m8 [11:39]
asciilifeform ;;isup trilema.com [11:41]
gribble trilema.com is down [11:41]
chetty its ok tho, Eulora is up [11:43]
pete_dushenski ;;isup contravex.com [11:45]
gribble contravex.com is up [11:45]
pete_dushenski guess i've been ruffling the wrong feathers of late ? [11:45]
nubbins` brb testing vpn [11:45]
asciilifeform some miscellaneous lulz: http://larvatus.livejournal.com/558422.html [11:46]
asciilifeform and an unusually entertaining orlol: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/crazyland.html [11:46]
pete_dushenski "So, for instance, if it turned out that Obama were indeed a space lizard (how embarrassing!) the administrator would simlply click on “conspiracy theories,” click on the checkbox next to “Obama is a space lizard,” and click “uninstall.”" [11:52]
pete_dushenski ok, i lol'd [11:52]
pete_dushenski "I would respond that if he has a SIM card in his phone, then the phone emits roaming signals which allow its position to be determined with surprisingly good accuracy by using multilateralization—measuring its relative signal strength at several of the surrounding cell phone towers." << doesn't this require 'stingray' ? [11:55]
pete_dushenski or is that just for improved accuracy ? [11:55]
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mircea_popescu lmao this noob. [11:59]
thestringpuller ;;ud impotent rage [12:00]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=impotent+rage | impotent rage. When a man can't get it up, everything bothers him. He whines, throws tantrums and if someone mentions the word "laid" the rage takes over. [12:00]
mike_c mircea_popescu: got the acct info, thanks [12:01]
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mike_c cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works [12:07]
mod6 thanks. [12:09]
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mod6 i tried to get it up and going lastnight on the throw-away ubuntu lappy has an intel graphics card. i had the previous release running on there, but have since wiped it. everything compiled fine lastnight. 'cept when starting `euclient`, it complained about no 3d graphics or something similar. [12:11]
mod6 gonna mess with it later tonight. i don't remember what I did before to resolve this, been too long. [12:11]
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chetty mod6 what version ubuntu? [12:16]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150083 << that entire thing has absolutel;y nothing to do with "investors" [12:19]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 20:22:07; Landgull: They need to stop talking about what they need and start talking about what they will do for their investors. [12:19]
mircea_popescu it just calls people that if that's what they want to be called. [12:19]
mircea_popescu if you're so inclined, you can find a woman on the street willing to call your bar bills "investments", and then make you some kids to invest into further. [12:20]
mircea_popescu that's the nature of this "investment". "we can use your money" [12:20]
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BingoBoingo Bethesda is announcing Fallout 4 tomorrow, hot on the heels of the Eulora beta announcement. [12:24]
mircea_popescu lol [12:27]
mircea_popescu 3 was such a disappointment [12:27]
BingoBoingo I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2 [12:28]
mircea_popescu ah [12:28]
BingoBoingo I enjoyed that Fallout 3.5 game in Vegas more than 3 though [12:29]
mod6 <+chetty> mod6 what version ubuntu? << 14.10? not sure off the top of my head. i'll work on it tonight. will let you know. [12:30]
mod6 im sure it's fine. [12:31]
nubbins` pete_dushenski doesn't what require stingray [12:35]
nubbins` triangulating your position based on cell towers? [12:35]
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BingoBoingo MPOE's been holding up for a while nao [12:41]
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menahem williamdunne thanks for sharing the shirt, lol. :) ill have it available for purchase soon, tweaking the shipping options. [12:43]
williamdunne Aha, very welcome [12:45]
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pete_dushenski nubbins`: determining the position of a sim card. [12:50]
pete_dushenski if all you need are cell phone towers to determine location, why the fuck does stingray matter ? [12:51]
pete_dushenski ftr i don't know that 'stingray' is all that useful, may be 'teaching the controversy' [12:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35851 @ 0.00031709 = 11.368 BTC [-] {2} [13:02]
nubbins` it's useful if the telco tells you to fuck off [13:07]
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nubbins` look, your phone's connected to x towers right now, each with a diff signal strength. basic math gives a rough location [13:08]
nubbins` stingray would ostensibly be a single-point unit, less useful for triangulation, more of a "warmer/colder" style [13:08]
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pete_dushenski makes sense. [13:09]
pete_dushenski telco telling cops to fuck off though ? maybe 10 years ago. [13:10]
pete_dushenski not that there wouldn't be some red tape and paperwork, i suppose. [13:10]
nubbins` go back and re-watch The Wire and see the hassle they went through tapping cell phones, and then imagine giving them a suitcase that blasts out the strongest cell signal in the projects so every phone preferentially tries to connect to it [13:10]
nubbins` it's a boon for cops [13:11]
pete_dushenski the wire was also 10 years ago [13:11]
pete_dushenski based on intel older than that [13:11]
nubbins` sure, and a lot of the problems surrounding that part of the puzzle are different now [13:11]
nubbins` but in all cases, going through official routes to get info from telco vs just turning on a piece of kit? [13:12]
nubbins` especially if your department head doesn't give a fuck when/where you use your stingray [13:12]
nubbins` (the inevitable outcome, duh) [13:12]
pete_dushenski i can see it. [13:13]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/m5zWPPx.jpg [13:13]
lobbes I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2 << Same boat here. I never played 1 & 2, but thoroughly enjoyed 3 & 3.5. My buddy, who had played the originals, also felt disappointed. It's all relative (tm), I guess. [13:14]
pete_dushenski needless to say, stingray or tower triangulation are more expensive to implement than gps tracking in smartphones [13:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00031568 = 10.5121 BTC [-] [13:14]
pete_dushenski so if security is a matter of making attacks expensive, a dumbphone still trumps a smartphone [13:15]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: did the derp from fortune who didn't link to qntra ever come clean ? [13:21]
nubbins` this vpn doles out a paltry 17mbit/s [13:21]
pete_dushenski who are you using ? [13:22]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski mno. [13:22]
nubbins` giving pia a shot [13:22]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: sorta figured as much [13:22]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: ya, pia is pretty damn slow [13:22]
pete_dushenski i've been doing some reading on this jaron lanier fellow, looking for an angle to roast him on for a blog post but i have to admit i'm at a loss [13:24]
nubbins` smokes weed [13:25]
nubbins` obv [13:25]
pete_dushenski the dude is so all over the map, markov chaining so hard, that i have nothing to grab onto without pulling the entire universe along with me [13:25]
pete_dushenski ya, the dreads are a bit rasta eh [13:25]
pete_dushenski ah well, fuck it. if anyone falls for his rambling nonsense, they deserve it. [13:26]
nubbins` "He proposes a two-way linking system that would point to the source of any piece of information, creating an economy of micropayments that compensates people for original material they post to the web." [13:29]
nubbins` imagine those youtube pop-up text ads, but "like the sound in this scene? send satoshis to 1Rambo5SoundGuyxxx" [13:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.00031806 = 30.0408 BTC [+] {2} [13:30]
pete_dushenski pretty much his proposal, except extended even further so that people sharing their biometrics or whatever with their insurance companies or employers would be paid extra [13:31]
pete_dushenski it's welfare with the DIGNITY of having earned it. [13:31]
pete_dushenski just for existing, obv. [13:31]
pete_dushenski but because it was willingly shared, it magically has value. [13:32]
nubbins` if it didn't have value, people wouldn't collect it, mmm? [13:33]
pete_dushenski precisely like seashells on the beach [13:34]
pete_dushenski value being a very subjective thing when there's no scarcity or fungibility [13:34]
pete_dushenski it's not like your fatass heartrate is a monet [13:34]
nubbins` sure [13:34]
nubbins` value changes over time, too [13:35]
nubbins` maybe the lighting in Heat was too blue for audiences in the late 2010s [13:35]
nubbins` but was rad as hell in the mid 2030s [13:35]
pete_dushenski well that's just fashion, which is inherently worthless. [13:35]
pete_dushenski 'audiences' being 'the people' and therefore incapable of imparting value on anything whatsoever [13:36]
nubbins` maybe the insurance company has a very large need of biometric data when figuring out rates for a new policy program [13:36]
nubbins` but not so much of a need for em later. [13:36]
nubbins` put another way [13:37]
mircea_popescu curl: (23) Failed writing body [13:37]
mircea_popescu that's a new one. [13:37]
nubbins` what's the value of a sheet of toilet paper while you're taking a shit, vs while you're taking a shower? [13:37]
nubbins` would you pay $5 for it while you're shampooing your hair? [13:37]
nubbins` how 'bout when you just shit yourself in the parking lot outside the funeral home? [13:37]
jurov http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/ hehehee [13:38]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [13:39]
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BingoBoingo markov bash! [13:39]
nubbins` heh [13:40]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: if said insurance company needs data now, why wouldn't it need more data later with which to compare the original info ? [13:41]
pete_dushenski http://www.magicaltux.net/post/120528127244/didnt-we-learn-anything << lookee who else ain't dead. fatso ! [13:41]
nubbins` oh, it just might [13:41]
nubbins` if pumpkin futures for october are through the roof, why wouldn't they be even higher just after xmas? [13:41]
pete_dushenski but if, say, biometric data is a pre-condition for coverage, that doesn't mean that the insurance company should be paying you to use it [13:42]
pete_dushenski "One entity would be specialized in handling of coins. It would focus mostly on security, and could also offer processing for other things than exchanges (I’m thinking about Lightning, for example). Existing wallet services are probably in a good position to start working on this kind of solutions." << what a fucking retard. no spellcheck, no braincheck... [13:43]
pete_dushenski "let's decentralise the parts of a human body so that it can be more efficient" [13:44]
pete_dushenski "you take the legs, i'll take the chest, he'll take the ears !" [13:44]
pete_dushenski cripes you'd think that 600k coins or whatever he embezzled would buy him a tutor. [13:45]
pete_dushenski and a non-tumblr website. [13:45]
pete_dushenski and a photographer with a proper camera for a portrait shot [13:46]
pete_dushenski !gettrust NewLiberty [13:47]
assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user NewLiberty: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=NewLiberty | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/NewLiberty/ [13:47]
pete_dushenski NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude [13:47]
BingoBoingo !up NewLiberty [13:47]
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NewLiberty I used to be able to anyhow [13:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.20760911 = 1.038 BTC [+] [13:50]
punkman pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude << it says 0 via 2 there [13:50]
fluffypony jurov: I don't know if I can trust a website called "worldnewsdailyreport" :-P [13:51]
NewLiberty has to be >0 to self voice [13:51]
punkman magicaltux blogging again... just shameless isn't he. [13:52]
pete_dushenski NewLiberty: ah, i thought it was just assbot's l2 for some reason [13:52]
NewLiberty Fluffypony, have you digested the borromean ring stuff yet? [13:52]
NewLiberty I'm still chewing on it [13:53]
fluffypony NewLiberty: no, too buggered and travelling at the moment, so will look at it on Friday once I've landed back in SA and spent a day recovering :) [13:53]
NewLiberty Yes, it is one that takes work. More so for me certainly. [13:55]
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punkman is that a monero thing? [13:55]
williamdunne punkman: Am I the only one thinking he might not be *entirely* to blame? (Entirely as if in he was incompetent, but someone else committed the bad deed. [13:56]
williamdunne ) [13:56]
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punkman williamdunne: possibly [13:56]
NewLiberty Gmaxwell paper on a privacy method [13:56]
punkman link? [13:56]
fluffypony it's not a privacy method, NewLiberty [13:57]
fluffypony adding it to Bitcoin won't add privacy [13:57]
fluffypony it's part of a wider crypto ecosystem that remains under wraps at the moment [13:57]
NewLiberty https://github.com/Blockstream/borromean_paper/raw/master/borromean_draft_0.01_34241bb.pdf [13:57]
fluffypony but the advantage for Monero is that we may be able to adopt the scheme to reduce our signature size and verification effort [13:58]
NewLiberty Right, that is an important distinction. [13:58]
NewLiberty It does more for monero than for bitcoin [13:58]
fluffypony I'm terribly interested in what gmaxwell is up to, but he's already said that whatever guesses we have about this wider system we'd be wrong :) [13:59]
williamdunne Holy cow, SSDs have got cheaper since I last checked.. [13:59]
williamdunne http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Warranty-SDSSDXPS-960G-G25/dp/B00KHRYR0U [13:59]
williamdunne 960gb for $440, not bad [14:00]
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williamdunne Oh wow, even better [14:00]
williamdunne http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-its-new-extreme-900-lineup/ [14:00]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the problem with not shooting retards is that they accumulate. [14:01]
williamdunne Three year warranty on the 2tb one though kinda sucks [14:01]
NewLiberty The zero knowledge oracle pieces, Fiat-Shamir, being put to a good use would be a nice add. [14:01]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: that's a strong argument for axetime [14:02]
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pete_dushenski NewLiberty: good how ? nice how ? [14:03]
mircea_popescu williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely. [14:03]
mircea_popescu blame attaches according to sin, not according to the size of the fireball. [14:04]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150090 << there's certainly too much of this psychiatric sort of behaviour around. "what are you doing for a living ?" "i make people feel better about themselves" [14:07]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 20:24:23; ben_vulpes: make everyone feel really cool for investing [14:07]
pete_dushenski this is also teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, you name it. [14:08]
pete_dushenski everyone be in the "helping people" business [14:08]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150119 << and now you see how b-a gets a bad name [14:08]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 20:28:02; williamdunne: Thought they were derpy so wanted to discuss it on a public forum [14:08]
pete_dushenski "helping" with feelings, of course [14:08]
punkman Borromean Nonsense I say [14:08]
mircea_popescu "THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE WHO EXPECT US TO MAKE SENSE AND DONT CARE ABOUT HOW THIS MAKES US FEEL!!1" [14:08]
mircea_popescu the evil cult of taptweutmsadcahtmuf [14:09]
pete_dushenski cruel and unusual, this. [14:09]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski there's a great seinfeld episode in which that weasel costanza goes to a job interview, decides to show up to work as if he had passed it, the somewhat confused receptionist gives him a choice of offices, he takes the smaller one. [14:11]
BingoBoingo taptweutmsadcahtmuf << I dunno this word, but "sad" seems important. Our cult gives outsiders the sads [14:11]
mircea_popescu then his boss comes back, discovers he's not done any work, and george goes "consider i am in the smaller office!" [14:11]
mircea_popescu by know there's an entire generation of this office scum : their job is to "x and be nice". they do exactly as much work as any guppi [14:12]
mircea_popescu but... CONSIDER I WAS NICE!11 [14:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00031745 = 12.444 BTC [+] [14:12]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: and guppi's expect to be treated "nice" in return [14:13]
pete_dushenski resulting in a very congenial, even convivial environs with which to get exactly nothing done [14:13]
NewLiberty pete_dushenski: the ultimate gmaxwell use remains a mystery, but the method described is also useful for other purposes which may be more immediately nice. (less computer resource needed for some monero functions) [14:14]
pete_dushenski thus, the bureaucracy is the ideal home [14:14]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Context? [14:14]
BingoBoingo http://motherboard.vice.com/read/great-someone-managed-to-sign-facebooks-pgp-key-with-an-ascii-goatse [14:15]
pete_dushenski NewLiberty: o_O gmaxwell de facto working on monero nao ? [14:15]
mircea_popescu williamdunne hm ? [14:16]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150147 << da fuck do they do in the rangers, parkour ? [14:17]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 20:46:23; mats: the navy doesn't see nearly the same level of folks going to medical discharge boards [14:17]
NewLiberty Yes. The paper has some potentially helpful implications there. [14:17]
nubbins` BingoBoingo lul [14:17]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: Context of "williamdunne being stupid and acting like you're important and should be relied on is something one gets blamed for entirely." [14:25]
mircea_popescu magicaltux, and you're comment as ot whether "he's to blame entirely" [14:26]
mircea_popescu yes, he is. nobody asked fatso to pretend like he's a banker nao. [14:26]
mircea_popescu you're lmao [14:27]
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williamdunne Oh right, I meant that he might not be entirely responsible for the loss. [14:28]
mircea_popescu that is a certainty. most of the loss is purely imaginary anyway [14:28]
mircea_popescu like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork. [14:29]
mircea_popescu indian candy prolly has more candy laying around her place than sr ever moved. [14:30]
williamdunne Lol [14:32]
williamdunne TBH every time more details come out about the whole MtGox shit-heap, it sounds more and more like there was a significant USG element to the almighty fuck up [14:32]
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mats http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-wang-says-ivy-league-discriminates-against-asians-2015-5 [14:37]
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pete_dushenski "Wang still feels as if he was unfairly rejected from the Ivies. "I think I deserve better than what I got," he said."" [14:39]
pete_dushenski This just in : azns are just as meta-fabulous as white kids [14:39]
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pete_dushenski if the article's picture tells us anything, it's that the kid probably didn't woo the socks off the interview panel, if there even was one. [14:41]
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mats #thestruggle [14:45]
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mats mircea_popescu: mostly they starve you for days while you go on missions [14:53]
mircea_popescu hm. [14:55]
mats mircea_popescu: and then towards the end you have to pass a timed, weighted march after doing a 5mi run and some other events [14:55]
mats usually its the former that breaks people. [14:55]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> like the TRILLIONS of dollars a derpy website "on the deep web o.O" that couldn't sell a kilo of coke is nevertheless associated with in usg paperwork. <<< wasn't supposed to sell kilos of coke 8) [14:55]
nubbins` 6dollarshirts.com would probably have a very hard time selling cotton by the bale, as an analogy [14:56]
mats oops, 2mi run [14:57]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it got prosecuted for selling cotton by the bale, ftr. [14:57]
nubbins` sure did. [14:57]
mircea_popescu i have no objection to whatever model being used, but it'd better be used consistently! [14:57]
nubbins` flew too close to the sun on wings made of wax. [14:57]
mircea_popescu in the terms it's being discussed (cotton baller), it sucked. [14:58]
mircea_popescu ftr : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cotton-store-cairo.jpg [14:58]
nubbins` sure, but in terms of being a bald eagle, you suck. [14:58]
scoopbot_revived No Such lAbs (S.NSA), May 2015 Statement http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/ [14:58]
* pete_dushenski thought of george sr's 'cornballer' from arrested development [14:59]
nubbins` doesn't mean you're not a top bloke otherwise, regardless of the foolishness of your building an eyre or whatevertf [14:59]
nubbins` aerie [15:00]
nubbins` w/e [15:00]
mircea_popescu im working on the bald eagle thing. [15:00]
nubbins` i figured you'd get something in motion when alf mentioned this a while back. [15:00]
pete_dushenski "As in the great days of the Studio System, NSA's star male lead spent a lot of time loaned out to other studios this Spring. The critically panned "RSA In The Soup!" trilogy was just packaged recently, while filming for the Thermonuked Chicken Saga continues." << haha priceless [15:00]
pete_dushenski 'stan the star' (tm) [15:01]
nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-05-2015#1123038 [15:01]
assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 20:13:20; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122989 << l0l - how about as an elephant? eagle ? [15:01]
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mircea_popescu scam. [15:01]
mircea_popescu cascading logsheets check that out. [15:03]
nubbins` CLS [15:04]
nubbins` also an acronym for content management systems that don't manage things very well [15:04]
nubbins` o look, new eulora src [15:04]
mircea_popescu oya [15:05]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/VgG931z.gifv [15:06]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9byzW1Rd1rkb8clo1_1280.jpg aka smallcock.jpg [15:06]
mircea_popescu omg. [15:07]
nubbins` fluffypony :0 [15:07]
fluffypony ikr [15:07]
mircea_popescu that poor old lady [15:07]
nubbins` HAHA HAPPY BIRTHDAY WE'RE GOING TO COVER YOU IN POLYURETHANE FOAM AND LIGHT YOU UP [15:08]
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nubbins` i think it was the tracksuit guy who doused her w/ flame [15:08]
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* pete_dushenski wonders if stan is more of a Vyuacheslav Savitskiy (cossack general turned silver screen star) or Aleksandr Voloshin (white army officer turned silver screen star) [15:09]
pete_dushenski mp is definitely goldwyn/mayer [15:10]
pete_dushenski http://www.russianamericanbusiness.org/web_CURRENT/articles/8/1/Hollywood&%2339%3Bs-Russian-Roots [15:10]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` he does stand around suspiciously unconcerned [15:10]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you mean lb mayer ? [15:11]
pete_dushenski lazar yakovlevich mayer [15:11]
pete_dushenski golwyn's partner [15:11]
mircea_popescu iirc it was just lazar meir [15:11]
pete_dushenski goldwyn* [15:12]
mats https://regex.alf.nu [15:14]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1150338 << i read "where are you basted" and i thought... she'd better say "midway" [15:15]
assbot Logged on 01-06-2015 23:46:20; williamdunne: Where are you based? [15:15]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9yzoyNrxr1rg1prvo1_1280.jpg << visual for the basting. [15:15]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150376 << o.O [15:17]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 00:14:20; WolfGoethe: portland was nice. met a super model lookin type girl there... she told me she hasn;t had a date in 6 months.. i was like why??? she said because the guys in portland are to scared to even say hi to her... lol [15:17]
williamdunne Noice [15:17]
mircea_popescu so THIS is why ben_vulpes & trinque don't invite us over huh. [15:18]
williamdunne http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9byzW1Rd1rkb8clo1_1280.jpg aka smallcock.jpg << seems like a poor choice to be naked in front of the camera [15:18]
williamdunne fluffypony: Darwinism in action? [15:18]
trinque mircea_popescu: heh, and the german girls are too scared to visit! [15:19]
mircea_popescu im still having the occasional chuckle over that episode. [15:19]
mircea_popescu williamdunne honestly if i iwas doing fetish photography, i'd only use below average dudes. [15:19]
williamdunne How come? [15:21]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150424 << you know, that picture doesn't take itself... [15:21]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 00:25:08; WolfGoethe: instagram has women like this... https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11230425_818749641507034_1768860839_n.jpg [15:21]
mircea_popescu williamdunne better trademark than you know, trying to put a watermark on the pics. [15:22]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150433 << so eat better. [15:23]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 00:27:11; trinque: never do I look at my food or ass and say "goddamn someone needs to see this shit" [15:23]
williamdunne Lol, small dick studios [15:23]
nubbins` babydick bus [15:24]
nubbins` er well i guess babydick bros now [15:25]
trinque 8D Media [15:25]
mircea_popescu toes before hoes. [15:25]
trinque haha [15:25]
mircea_popescu and i'd only hire black dudes too [15:25]
mircea_popescu and then apply to the uk's service of investing in derpy airports in fucking plymouth [15:26]
mircea_popescu to give me $$$ because i hired the most unfortunate people alive [15:26]
mircea_popescu black men with small dicks. [15:26]
williamdunne Lol [15:26]
williamdunne South West of the UK is poor as shit [15:26]
williamdunne Nothing happens here [15:26]
williamdunne Hence why we have 1 billionaire out of (104?) in the UK [15:26]
mircea_popescu shut up, that's got staines in da hood there. represent [15:27]
mircea_popescu respek [15:27]
williamdunne restecp [15:27]
mircea_popescu West Staines Massif 4evar [15:28]
williamdunne east side is the best [15:28]
mircea_popescu ;;lasers williamdunne [15:29]
williamdunne Imma rewatch that actually [15:29]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [15:29]
williamdunne fuckin lold [15:29]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150496 win [15:30]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 00:41:59; Adlai: !b 2 [15:30]
thestringpuller ;;laserkittens [15:30]
gribble ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew* [15:30]
pete_dushenski o hey wawrinka beat federer in straight sets. [15:30]
mircea_popescu he's old [15:32]
pete_dushenski that's what i thought too. like 3 years ago. guy's still at it and still winning [15:33]
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mircea_popescu !rate indiancandy1 1 williamdunne's hand puppet. [15:34]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/6fb65a65f3ecc1ef [15:34]
williamdunne In other news, CIPC (the South Africa company registration/copyright people) use the TIF image format exclusively [15:35]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.indiancandy1.1:b1b19f36f745b76e2d677cacd319cd1b9f52078b7606335173e617bf9e64bbca [15:35]
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williamdunne First time I've ever used that format [15:35]
williamdunne Nice rating [15:35]
williamdunne Although she doesn't have the key to access it D: [15:35]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150641 << mno lol [15:36]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 01:20:57; williamdunne: Can kakro overrule this when he is online I wonder? [15:36]
williamdunne Oh shet [15:36]
mircea_popescu williamdunne teaches you to ask the girl if she's on contraception BEFORE sticking it in. [15:36]
williamdunne mYeah, guessing the only option is a new nick, or to work out her password [15:36]
williamdunne ah well [15:37]
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mircea_popescu indeed. you can't administratively undo people's keys, thinkaboutit. [15:37]
williamdunne Well technically kak could [15:37]
williamdunne Guessing he has access to the DB, but yeah I kinda see why he shouldn't [15:38]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150704 << we have our standards lol [15:38]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 01:49:50; WolfGoethe: only the geekiest of the crypto geeks would go thru all that just to post big booty pics [15:38]
mircea_popescu dude check out all the logdramaz. [15:41]
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williamdunne Did you see the response Sandhill gave me when I asked if they were gonna leave the US? [15:42]
mircea_popescu myeah. [15:42]
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mircea_popescu "we like the kindergarten and think we belong here." [15:43]
mircea_popescu prolly right. [15:43]
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williamdunne Yep, nationalism seems strange as hell to me [15:45]
williamdunne If country is holding me back, I'm gonna move [15:45]
mircea_popescu that's not what's happening there. [15:45]
mircea_popescu what's happening there is, "all i know how to do is spend the unemployment benefits. i can only talk to girls if they share X Y Z very narrow preconceptions, my conversation revolves around internet faux news and internet faux outrage" etc. [15:46]
chetty williamdunne, yeah but where to? pretty much all like that these days [15:46]
williamdunne chetty: Seems like the USG is the only one who would prosecute someone for offering CFDs built on smart-contracts [15:47]
chetty point! [15:48]
williamdunne chetty: Much like Argentina so far hasn't given two shits that MP runs MPEX (AFAIK) [15:48]
mircea_popescu neither did romania [15:48]
nubbins` neither did SEC, as it turns out [15:48]
mircea_popescu tbh, neither did the us [15:49]
williamdunne True [15:49]
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nubbins` heh [15:49]
williamdunne Well, SEC couldn't give that many shits [15:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` lol [15:49]
williamdunne But they have previously fined people for running bitcoin securities [15:49]
chetty rofl [15:49]
mircea_popescu williamdunne you know there's a shitload more to it than "saying so on reddit". [15:49]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150865 << check out the sensitized trinque. does portland suck or something ? :D [15:50]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless [15:50]
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williamdunne So I'm guessing if MP was US citizen or lived in US, they would have tried something [15:51]
williamdunne So more a matter of practicality rather than if they care or not [15:51]
williamdunne Its not like S.DICE lost investors money, ran a ponzi, or whatever [15:51]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Exactly, only the USG seems to care [15:51]
williamdunne Hence why I think they should tell the US to go fuck itself and move pretty much anywhere [15:51]
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mircea_popescu you will note that contrary to deceitful reporting to the contrary, by both the sec itself and the usg prop machine, [15:52]
mircea_popescu s dice was at no point involved. [15:52]
mircea_popescu what was involved was, the guy, and his feed ze birds glbse asset. [15:52]
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mircea_popescu of which nobody much heard or cares to much remember, but nevertheless. [15:53]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150924 << on an' off. [15:53]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 07:15:59; cazalla: qntra down for anyone else? ddos back eh? [15:53]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150962 << ohohoh so much win. [15:54]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 11:07:58; cazalla: the barter ocf mentions a "Pietila Group" so i guess it might be him [15:54]
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mircea_popescu !up williamdunne1 [15:54]
-assbot- You voiced williamdunne1 for 30 minutes. [15:54]
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mircea_popescu http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54fcda9ce4b0edea648d9cea/t/556813c6e4b0f0a8f2e606e8/1432884171206/ dawg this shit has to be reposted. [15:55]
williamdunne1 This is getting very annoying, can't get back into williamdunne [15:55]
mircea_popescu what in the everloving fuck [15:55]
mircea_popescu williamdunne1 msg nickserv release [15:55]
williamdunne1 Any luck [15:56]
williamdunne1 Nope [15:56]
williamdunne1 Fuck it, I'll close the whole thing off [15:56]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150979 << i could of course just move it to a diff server, but whatevs. [15:57]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 11:30:01; jurov: dunno how that could be easily fixed. since mircea recoiled in horror from the "proxied php" setup, he can't easily split tittylick.php into other process with higher priority [15:57]
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williamdunne I'm back [15:59]
williamdunne First off all how DAER you [15:59]
williamdunne I founded BarterOCF it is mi favorit AMAZING company [15:59]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [15:59]
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* mircea_popescu suspects this entire pietilla thing is elaborate parody. [16:00]
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mircea_popescu very well made, at that, so allow me to be the first one to clap. [16:01]
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diana_coman I've got eulora to compile under windows 8.1, but then the client quits: "psclient has stopped working. Windows is checking for a solution to the problem..." [16:02]
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mircea_popescu "reboot your computer" ? [16:03]
diana_coman neah, it waits a bit and then it "will let you know" when it finds one :))) [16:03]
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williamdunne Traditionally the response is "have you tried turning it off and on again" [16:05]
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diana_coman yeah, I have the misfortune of having enough windows experience to know the famous "cure" [16:06]
williamdunne I chuckled http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/386el0/this_post_is_not_about_the_block_size_limit/ [16:06]
williamdunne In fairness, I've had to do that a few times on Ubuntu [16:06]
williamdunne Hell, some stuff has been more stable on my windows machine than on here, but not all that much [16:06]
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mircea_popescu ida ? [16:08]
diana_coman ubuntu is nowadays very much like windows I'd say [16:08]
mircea_popescu quite. [16:08]
diana_coman the reason for which I am currently seriously searching for some OS to have on my machine, as I can't stand ubuntu anymore [16:09]
chetty just stop upgrading it, stick with an old version [16:09]
mircea_popescu yeah, nothing past 10.04 was ever approved for usage anyway. [16:10]
diana_coman well yes, that's what I did for the moment: got an older version [16:11]
diana_coman but ... [16:11]
diana_coman I still can't stand it anymore, lol [16:11]
mircea_popescu myeah. [16:11]
mircea_popescu make a working gentoo. [16:11]
mircea_popescu mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help [16:13]
williamdunne The only reason Ubuntu is nice, is that everything is packageized [16:14]
williamdunne Maybe I'll move to debian [16:14]
diana_coman it could be interesting - I'll need to have a look at gentoo as I haven't really looked at it in ages [16:14]
mircea_popescu debian used to work. then it got packaged into ubuntu, and the remainder was shot in the head with systemd crapolade. [16:15]
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williamdunne Oh, great. All I want is a stable OS with a well populated package manager [16:17]
williamdunne Lord, why won't you grant me this wish [16:17]
mircea_popescu myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required. [16:18]
williamdunne We should call it loper [16:19]
williamdunne Or maybe loper-os [16:19]
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pete_dushenski !up ascii_field [16:19]
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pete_dushenski "Starting on 27 June 2015, SMS notifications from Google Calendar will no longer be sent. SMS notifications were launched before smartphones were available. Now, in a world with smartphones and notifications, you can get a richer, more reliable experience on your mobile device, even offline." << well fuck that. [16:21]
* pete_dushenski kinda liked the text messages 45 min before events. [16:21]
chetty everyone must have a 'smartphone', how else they gonna keep track of you? [16:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63261 @ 0.00032136 = 20.3296 BTC [+] {3} [16:23]
pete_dushenski as if writing 1000 lines a week in here wasn't enough data. [16:23]
pete_dushenski but hey, not everyone fits in that category, i guess. [16:24]
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Naphex https://xotika.tv/#/development pretty countdown is on :P [16:24]
mircea_popescu lol. this is a bad format [16:24]
mircea_popescu they have no fucking idea what to do wioti it [16:24]
mircea_popescu yo Naphex , want a banner on 8chan ? [16:24]
Naphex (has no idea what 8chan is ) [16:25]
Naphex never got into chans [16:25]
mircea_popescu mk. want 500k or so impressions ? [16:25]
Naphex ofc [16:25]
williamdunne Naphex: Registered as a model [16:26]
mircea_popescu 728x90, make me a banner. [16:26]
williamdunne Naphex: I'll be in Bucharest next week to audition for you [16:26]
mircea_popescu ahahaha wut ? [16:26]
Naphex williamdunne: will actually be in mamaia from saturday [16:26]
Naphex doing the launch [16:26]
mircea_popescu Naphex cu pizde ? [16:26]
Naphex you're welcomed to join http://www.awsummit.com/ [16:27]
Naphex mircea_popescu: yeah ofcourse,we got some romanian playboy model [16:27]
Naphex and some other gimmicks :P [16:27]
williamdunne damn it, now how will I make my audition [16:27]
mircea_popescu Naphex daca-mi trimiti ceva poze ok & exclusive iti fac articol pe trilema. [16:27]
Naphex mircea_popescu: aye, rezolv de toate [16:28]
Naphex o sa-i zic la cora sa pregateasca [16:28]
mircea_popescu cool. [16:28]
williamdunne Naphex: Fuck it, I'd actually go to that summit with you, but I've got a flight to Prague on Thursday [16:28]
williamdunne *next Thursday [16:28]
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mircea_popescu Naphex da' pizda goala nu cacaturi. trilema e anti softcore [16:29]
pete_dushenski http://foaas.com/ [16:29]
Naphex mircea_popescu: :)) [16:29]
scoopbot_revived Line betting on BitBet, May 2015 http://thewhet.net/2015/line-betting-on-bitbet-may-2015/ [16:29]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski ancient trilema commenter chick used to link to foib.org [16:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36895 @ 0.00033223 = 12.2576 BTC [+] [16:31]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: lol [16:32]
deedbot- Bad URL or network outage. [16:32]
pete_dushenski hanbot: .txt [16:32]
mircea_popescu lol [16:33]
hanbot deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0KM1CWY.txt [16:33]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [16:33]
hanbot thanks pete. damned if i ever manage it correctly on the first try [16:33]
pete_dushenski np :) [16:34]
jurov why no one is hosting .txt version of stuff themselves? [16:34]
pete_dushenski i'd guess that something in the order of 30% of deeds are correctly submitted and accepted on the 1st try. [16:34]
jurov still, not having to copy text from html can be handy when deedbot link is not provided [16:35]
mircea_popescu jurov im not sure what you're asking ? [16:35]
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jurov everyone just copies the clearsigned test and pastes it to wordpress [16:36]
jurov *text [16:36]
jurov it may be a problem to get the text back so that it verifies [16:36]
jurov so i'm asking to upload the original as attachemnt [16:36]
jurov *attachment [16:36]
ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151672 << i don't expect to live to see this. needs standardized iron [16:37]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 19:14:23; mircea_popescu: myeah. a b-a os, in the shape of an usable open source something without idiocy/usgity baked in and with decent defaults so that people can install it without dedicating their life to it is ever more required. [16:37]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: eat better ! [16:37]
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jurov like i do here [GPG signed statement]: http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2015-trading-statement [16:37]
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mircea_popescu oh i see. [16:38]
-assbot- You voiced referredbyloper for 30 minutes. [16:38]
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mircea_popescu not a bad idea, that. [16:38]
ascii_field pete_dushenski: wai wat [16:40]
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hanbot jurov yeah i think i'll adopt your method from now on. [16:40]
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nubbins` referredbyloper: welcome [16:44]
nubbins` favourite type of cheese? [16:44]
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pete_dushenski ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151532 ;) [16:45]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 18:19:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150433 << so eat better. [16:45]
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mircea_popescu U.S. ambassador to England, Joseph Kennedy, also told the studios to stop making pro-British and anti-German films, as British defeat was imminent and there was no point in America holding out alone: 'With England licked, the party's over.' [17:08]
mircea_popescu things that never happened in 1939, an archive. [17:08]
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cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151267 <<< thanks in advance [17:18]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 15:03:12; mike_c: cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works [17:18]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: link to the 1939 thing ? [17:23]
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lobbes ascii_field: curious myself, I googled teh quote. Found a wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_B._Mayer#cite_ref-Eyman.2C_p._277_69-0 [17:46]
lobbes 'From September, 1939, until January, 1940, all films that could be considered anti-Nazi were banned by the Hays Office.' [17:46]
lobbes heh [17:46]
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trinque mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1150865 << check out the sensitized trinque. does portland suck or something ? :D << as portland has nothing, is nothing, the empty vessels here mostly define themselves as *not* the other empty vessels. [17:52]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 03:07:55; trinque: my well of hate for this mentality is bottomless [17:52]
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trinque black hole of meta-identity and retirement at 25 [17:55]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell jurov you've got depositz :) [18:00]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:00]
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jurov O.o [18:02]
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lobbes ;;later tell WolfGoethe btw, you should get a cloak (ask on #freenode) [18:14]
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ascii_field ;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151173 << i actually have one, bought from an ebay sc4mz0r most of a decade ago, somewhere in my parts box [18:16]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:16]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 13:57:52; nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/eIuHT8a.jpg [18:16]
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thestringpuller ascii_field: you would even hate on red-army superman. [18:26]
ascii_field wai wat [18:26]
thestringpuller in alternate timeline superman falls to soviet russia and is raised as communist [18:26]
thestringpuller he becomes hero of red army and champion of proliterat [18:27]
ascii_field l0l [18:27]
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trinque thestringpuller: the horror! [18:28]
trinque is there some time-warp scenario where american and comrade superman do battle? [18:29]
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punkman https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys [18:31]
punkman someone wants to do phuctoring on github [18:31]
scoopbot_revived The fruits of a classical education. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/02/the-fruits-of-a-classical-education/ [18:31]
ascii_field punkman: wtf. as if you can't get ssh pubkey just by connecting to random boxen [18:33]
ascii_field -public- means... just that, public. [18:33]
thestringpuller trinque: More like Comrade Batman vs Comrade Superman. [18:35]
thestringpuller pretty sure ascii_field would be on team Comrade Batman. :P [18:35]
jurov lol i actually started scraping github keys today , with this intention [18:37]
jurov but with their ratelimiting, might take over a week [18:37]
mircea_popescu ascii_field http://bookaspdf.com/the-sphinx-franklin-roosevelt-the-isolationists-and-the-road- to-world-war-ii.html [18:38]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: found it earlier, neat [18:38]
punkman seems like the guy found a bunch of people using keys generated while Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys [18:38]
jurov unless someone here generates and donates their oauth key [18:38]
ascii_field the 'factorable' folks did the earlier [18:38]
ascii_field iirc [18:38]
* ascii_field did not discover gcd! euclid did [18:39]
mircea_popescu Debians OpenSSH could only make 32k distinct keys << o.O [18:39]
mircea_popescu when the fuck was this ?! [18:39]
ascii_field '03 ? [18:39]
* mircea_popescu was busy at the time, apparently. [18:40]
mircea_popescu seriously ? this was a thing ? [18:40]
jurov https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/random_number_b.html [18:40]
ascii_field https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/5720/ [18:40]
jurov big thing [18:40]
punkman who doesn't remember THE debian bug [18:40]
mircea_popescu me, apparently. [18:40]
punkman granted, so many of these fuckups going on every year [18:40]
jurov they even hacked debian servers and stole the source code!!! [18:40]
ascii_field http://jblevins.org/log/ssh-vulnkey << different from the one i was thinking of [18:41]
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mircea_popescu On May 13th, 2008 Seems that the bug was introduced in September 2006. [18:41]
mircea_popescu o.O [18:41]
mircea_popescu Instead of mixing in random data for the initial seed, the only "random" value that was used was the current process ID. On the Linux platform, the default maximum process ID is 32,768, resulting in a very small number of seed values being used for all PRNG operations. [18:41]
mircea_popescu process id as a random value, god help us [18:41]
mircea_popescu "Back when the NSA was routinely weakening commercial cryptography, their favorite technique was reducing the entropy of the random number generator." [18:42]
mircea_popescu oh i see, BACK WHEN [18:42]
ascii_field ahahaha. [18:42]
ascii_field 'back when.' [18:42]
mircea_popescu back when dudes took pictures of naked women... [18:42]
mircea_popescu you know, before the internet... [18:43]
jurov before bitcoin [18:43]
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ascii_field in other lulz, http://cryptome.org/2015/06/fbi-sky-spies.htm [18:45]
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ascii_field check out the flight paths, e.g., http://imagebin.ca/231QwtGcRLMz/N912EXNYC.png http://imagebin.ca/231OJfk5LfsD/Baltimoreheavy.png [18:48]
ascii_field they go in circles all day... [18:48]
trinque "wide-area mass surveillance and location tracking of entire cities and towns." [18:48]
ascii_field picking up stray rf or whatnot. [18:48]
trinque maybe munching on cell phones, wifi, so on [18:48]
punkman why do they register these and let them show up on flightradar24? [18:51]
ascii_field punkman: generally u.s. airplanes are required to broadcast id [18:51]
ascii_field punkman: for reasons i cannot fathom, usg does not even exempt its own snoops from this. [18:51]
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jurov http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/02/1950234/microsoft-to-support-ssh-in-windows-and-contribute-to-openssh [18:52]
mircea_popescu twist : tyhey're really nk spyplanes [18:52]
punkman I remember some artist guy that dug-up a similar list of air transport shell companies that were used to move prisoners around [18:52]
trinque mircea_popescu: lol [18:52]
williamdunne jurov: Nice move, I'm still amazed .net is being OSS'd [18:53]
williamdunne I'm just hoping and praying Android ends up running .net [18:53]
trinque I'm skeptical that company can ever do anything right [18:53]
mircea_popescu ascii_field easy to fathom tho. one of those rotten cases where the exemption is louder than the thing it covers. [18:53]
williamdunne trinque: Honestly, recently I think they've been doing some great stuff. [18:54]
trinque williamdunne: nadella does seem to be doing his damnedest to right the ship [18:54]
trinque we'll see [18:54]
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williamdunne Aye, Visual Studio community, OSS'ing .net being my two favourites [18:55]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151841 << embrace, extend, extinguish (TM) (R) [18:57]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 21:48:25; jurov: http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/02/1950234/microsoft-to-support-ssh-in-windows-and-contribute-to-openssh [18:57]
trinque ^ this is exactly what I expect of their recent "great stuff" [18:57]
trinque openssh gets tied into some windows auth mechanism, so on [18:58]
trinque but who knows, apple looked dead once [18:58]
ascii_field microshit attempted this with every single thing it ever touched [18:59]
trinque still is dead for some measures [18:59]
ascii_field no exceptions [18:59]
trinque right, this looks just like how they approached the web. open standards? sure! sounds great [18:59]
trinque oh... try some activex though [18:59]
trinque williamdunne: does for example the open source .net ship any opaque binary wads? [19:00]
trinque if so, rootkit. [19:00]
williamdunne trinque: I don't believe so, but I haven't checked it in its entirely [19:00]
jurov mircea_popescu you've got depositz :) [19:00]
trinque williamdunne: or maybe the post-oracle virtualbox approach [19:01]
trinque where it has "non-free" extensions [19:01]
williamdunne IIRC the logic was that they want to promote their development tools, and premium products such as SQL server by making their stuff more prolific [19:02]
kakobrekla ,,,-.--------čl [19:03]
jurov kako's cat has spoken [19:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83300 @ 0.00033755 = 28.1179 BTC [+] {2} [19:05]
kakobrekla oh yeah sorry about that. [19:07]
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trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-usa-security-surveillance-passage-idUSKBN0OI2I920150602 << oh good, they added slightly more bureaucratic procedure to the surveillance, and decided they'd outsource the data storage to the companies themselves... [19:12]
ascii_field 'But instead of routinely feeding U.S. intelligence agencies such data, the companies would be required to turn it over only in response to a government request approved by the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.' << l0l, the same 'court' which consists of a remotely-operated rubber stamp for director of intel. [19:14]
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trinque ascii_field: progress! this will cost far less. god bless the free market. [19:15]
trinque fascism is that thing where you cook jews in ovens, and wear stylish hugo boss uniforms, right? [19:16]
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ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9EEA1A9FB9290DC70739E70AB8E97F3FC0DB67BAE16B955D5BF0AD92FF9D8B3E << NOT in magic set [19:19]
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ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=jbollstrom%40gmail.com&op=index << tell-tale duplicate submission. but not the usual 32-bit walk thing [19:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:21]
ascii_field and it looks like somebody's ddosing sks ? [19:21]
ascii_field for perhaps a week now! [19:21]
ascii_field https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x342FA15421BD34F2 << diddled key for bollstrom; https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B >> his original [19:23]
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ascii_field http://dpaste.com/37KPXYY.txt [19:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102200 @ 0.00034481 = 35.2396 BTC [+] {2} [19:25]
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ascii_field http://imgur.com/V4CS5PF << diff [19:28]
ascii_field sig does not verify [19:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56850 @ 0.00034783 = 19.7741 BTC [+] [19:29]
punkman looks like random finnish dude that like weed and anime, maybe a Silk Road customer https://joindiaspora.com/posts/730630 [19:30]
ascii_field but of course, as with the 32-bit 'magic set', the bottom 32 are the same, and this key would probably work in some winblows turd pgptron [19:30]
ascii_field at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples. [19:31]
jurov ascii_field: neither url works [19:31]
jurov Page not found: /key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B [19:31]
ascii_field jurov: l0l! [19:31]
ascii_field must have -just now- been zapped [19:32]
ascii_field https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=jbollstrom%40gmail.com [19:32]
ascii_field try direct link? [19:32]
ascii_field diddled key is topmost [19:32]
jurov https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=bollstrom&fingerprint=on << can be got from here [19:32]
ascii_field see the earlier linked image for which bytes were altered [19:34]
jurov heh it's even visible in exported format [19:35]
jurov only 5th row changed [19:35]
ascii_field jurov: diff is of output of pgpdump -i [19:35]
jurov was bad endianness handling ever mentioned as possible culprit? [19:39]
jurov but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed [19:40]
ascii_field jurov: why would this affect the exponent (magic-98 set, rather than this latest one) and adjust the length field correctly ? [19:40]
ascii_field endian issue was the first hypothesis i considered - and rejected [19:40]
ascii_field jurov: those things were crafted. not a shred of doubt remains in my mind about it. [19:41]
jurov yea [19:41]
ascii_field crafted with an angle towards 'plausible deniability if one doesn't look too closely,' yes [19:42]
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gabriel_laddel artifexd: how goes gossipd? [19:47]
trinque I was just about to ask the same :) [19:47]
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trinque what's this, bots here to munch logs? [19:51]
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shinohai good evening all [19:58]
williamdunne Hi [19:59]
shinohai quiet evening here [20:01]
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shinohai well, evening for me anyway. [20:01]
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alphonse23_ hello [20:09]
danielpbarron !up E8888____ [20:09]
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alphonse23_ I was voiced [20:09]
alphonse23_ how is it everyone? [20:09]
danielpbarron yes, hi. who are you? [20:09]
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alphonse23_ this is the channel that announced that they factore a 4067 rsa key [20:10]
alphonse23_ or something like that [20:10]
alphonse23_ maybe it wasn't 4067 [20:10]
danielpbarron yeah something like that [20:10]
danielpbarron and you are the user who ... ? [20:10]
trinque alphonse23_: note that this does not mean RSA in the abstract is broken [20:10]
trinque it means some implementation *may* be [20:10]
alphonse23_ 4096 [20:11]
trinque that's the one, yes [20:11]
alphonse23_ factor of 2^n [20:11]
alphonse23_ trinque: I know! I'm not that big of a noob [20:11]
trinque just tends to be the first thing that comes up [20:12]
trinque also, welcome [20:12]
alphonse23_ HN was shaming that announcement [20:12]
alphonse23_ claiming it was trolling [20:12]
alphonse23_ was it really. explain yourselves! [20:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5522 @ 0.00034783 = 1.9207 BTC [+] [20:13]
danielpbarron no, you explain yourself! [20:13]
alphonse23_ fine! [20:13]
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trinque lolwtfbbq [20:13]
shinohai I have so much reading left to do danielpbarron [20:13]
danielpbarron same here [20:14]
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trinque danielpbarron: looks like he explained himself rather thoroughly eh? [20:14]
shinohai I'm trying to catch up on the entire mailing list before I joined. :/ [20:14]
danielpbarron don't forget the log [20:14]
shinohai Yeah. I like the bash logs, I can even read those on android. [20:15]
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shinohai !up alphonse23_ [20:21]
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alphonse23_ and I'm back [20:21]
alphonse23_ why does my irc service keep crashing. [20:21]
trinque alphonse23_: that irccloud thing seems like a turd [20:21]
trinque if the logs are any indication [20:21]
alphonse23_ what do the logs say? [20:21]
shinohai I hate irccloud [20:21]
alphonse23_ I pay for it [20:21]
alphonse23_ I decided I use IRC enough to pay for the service [20:21]
trinque lolwut [20:22]
trinque irc is free man [20:22]
alphonse23_ it is, but they do the archiving for you [20:22]
alphonse23_ which is nice [20:22]
shinohai For real. I use a shell and weechat [20:22]
trinque you mean... logs? [20:22]
trinque alphonse23_: all clients do logs [20:22]
alphonse23_ yes, they keep track of the history of all the channels I'm in [20:22]
shinohai I can grep logs right from my client [20:22]
alphonse23_ so I never miss anything [20:22]
alphonse23_ but it depends if the channel is logged [20:22]
alphonse23_ not all channels are logged [20:23]
gabriel_laddel ... [20:23]
shinohai nope, my client keeps logs [20:23]
alphonse23_ I think I got it specificically for channels that I wanted to logged, that didn't have anyone doing it for them. [20:23]
trinque alphonse23_: dude, all clients log [20:23]
alphonse23_ really? but do you keep your computer on at all times? [20:23]
shinohai unless you webcht [20:23]
trinque ah ok, I see what you mean by log now [20:24]
trinque alphonse23_: this is generally a "bouncer" you run elsewhere from your local computer [20:24]
trinque and which you connect to with your client [20:24]
trinque they've webified that, but people have done it since ancient times [20:24]
ben_vulpes webify all the things! [20:24]
trinque ben_vulpes: make app icon! raise 15m! year later, raze your business! [20:25]
jurov http://www.eulorum.org/Gameplay << this is literally all I have figured out after hours of gameplay. [20:25]
jurov i got some results from /explore but i have no idea about them yet [20:25]
BingoBoingo no, you explain yourself! << For the record in tis situation you coulda just linked http://nosuchlabs.com/stats [20:27]
BingoBoingo alphonse23_: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats [20:27]
danielpbarron oh is his key phucked? [20:28]
alphonse23_ is a bouncer a server [20:28]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Not that I know of, but dude wanted to know if it was trolling, so the solution is point them to the fount of data [20:28]
trinque alphonse23_: yessir [20:28]
alphonse23_ do I have to purchase the server? [20:28]
trinque alphonse23_: yup, or run a second box at home [20:28]
trinque decent intro to fiddling with such things if you never have [20:29]
alphonse23_ well. maybe I could do that. [20:29]
alphonse23_ I wonder though. I pay irccloud 5 dollars a month [20:29]
BingoBoingo alphonse23_: Well, if you want to be a dick you could use botnet slaves as IRC bouncer, but easier to leave an old machine on at home to bounce IRC. Black and white Macs are ideal [20:29]
danielpbarron i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok [20:29]
alphonse23_ owning a server, even if it's through digital ocean, would still be slightly more expensive. [20:29]
trinque I think linode starts out at 10 bucks a month [20:29]
alphonse23_ see, more than irccloud [20:30]
trinque tons of virtual hosting things out there [20:30]
trinque the main benefit would be learning [20:30]
shinohai try hashbang, it's free [20:30]
alphonse23_ k, I have othing things I'd like to learn that to setup something to log an irc channel [20:30]
BingoBoingo WHo only logs one IRC channel? [20:31]
alphonse23_ for instance, I'd like to actually understands rsa factoring [20:31]
alphonse23_ does 4096 refer to the max size of one of the primes. or the primes multiplied togetheR? [20:31]
BingoBoingo alphonse23_: Once again http://nosuchlabs.com/stats uses euclid's greatest common divisor [20:31]
trinque !up NewLiberty [20:31]
trinque is teh arsebot sleepin? [20:32]
alphonse23_ I bet even if I knew what that algorithm is, Id' still have doubts [20:32]
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NewLiberty $10/month is about equiv to the electricity cost of a 120v machine running 24/7 for a year [20:32]
BingoBoingo trinque: Kako's cat prolly typed assbot too. Either that or there is another dispute over the pod bay doors. [20:32]
BingoBoingo NewLiberty: All depends on the machine and amps. [20:33]
NewLiberty good rule of thumb being $1/v/annum [20:33]
trinque BingoBoingo: dispute over the pod bay doors << bwhahahaha [20:33]
NewLiberty sure sure, some variation. [20:33]
NewLiberty I'm on solar so, up to what I produce, no added cost [20:34]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market buttstamp [20:46]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 225.2, Best ask: 225.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 225.31, 24 hour volume: 7750.11381028, 24 hour low: 221.34, 24 hour high: 226.38, 24 hour vwap: 223.644666851 [20:46]
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asciilifeform !up alphonse23_ [21:10]
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asciilifeform alphonse23_: you still there? [21:10]
williamdunne Pure hilarity on this show [21:10]
alphonse23_ yup [21:10]
alphonse23_ what's up [21:10]
williamdunne Two identical twin brothers at a festival, guy tries to cheat on his girlfriend with some bird [21:10]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: author of 'phuctor' speaking. you had questions ? [21:11]
williamdunne Brother calls him out [21:11]
williamdunne They argue with each other [21:11]
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williamdunne The other brother fucks his bird [21:11]
alphonse23_ what does 4096 refer to [21:11]
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alphonse23_ the maximum size of the primes [21:11]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: no. the size of the modulus, typically a product of two primes [21:11]
alphonse23_ or the maximum size of what the two primes are multiplied to each other? [21:11]
williamdunne Bits of entropy [21:11]
alphonse23_ so 4096 is the maximum size of the product of the two primes? [21:12]
asciilifeform aha. [21:12]
williamdunne Only on Debian [21:12]
alphonse23_ doesn't that only leave a handful of primes though [21:12]
alphonse23_ you could just check them all. [21:12]
alphonse23_ right? [21:12]
williamdunne Yes [21:12]
asciilifeform is the question specifically concerning the buggy debian rng ? [21:13]
asciilifeform or rsa in general [21:13]
williamdunne RSA in general [21:13]
williamdunne Debian was a joke on my part [21:13]
asciilifeform williamdunne: i think we have a genuine noob here, and you are addling him [21:14]
asciilifeform williamdunne: please stop. [21:14]
alphonse23_ i'm not that big of a noob [21:15]
williamdunne alphonse23_: This might help you understand what the 4096 means [21:15]
williamdunne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Password_strength [21:15]
alphonse23_ just not an expert [21:15]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: 'checking them all', given current of foreseeable technology, would take several thousand years. [21:15]
alphonse23_ and what point are you not a noob [21:15]
alphonse23_ maybe you can ask that about everything [21:15]
alphonse23_ and maybe I shouldn't care [21:15]
trinque alphonse23_: noob's not an insult [21:15]
trinque "beginner's mind" [21:15]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: rsa is not especially complicated. you can understand the basic idea after an hour's study [21:16]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RSAEncryption.html for example. [21:16]
alphonse23_ yea, I've read a fair share of online guides about it [21:17]
alphonse23_ I kind of understand [21:17]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/thematic_tutorials/numtheory_rsa.html << worked examples [21:17]
alphonse23_ still don't get elliptical curve cryptography at all. [21:18]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: 'phuctor' deals only with traditional rsa keys. [21:18]
alphonse23_ twitter works on 2056 I think [21:19]
alphonse23_ why no go decrypt some twitter traffic or something [21:19]
alphonse23_ what's the purpose of all this? [21:19]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: basic idea, which is very old, is that euclid's greatest-common-divisor algorithm is very fast, for arbitrarily large numbers. so if two or more rsa keys were to share a factor, it will pop up. [21:19]
williamdunne Can only break bad keys [21:20]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: the idea is to find evidence of sabotaged implementations of rsa key generator. [21:20]
alphonse23_ find the NSA at work? [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33926 @ 0.00033308 = 11.3001 BTC [-] [21:21]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: instead we found that someone is uploading carefully modified versions of other people's keys to sks key server net [21:21]
alphonse23_ interesting [21:23]
alphonse23_ I've never heard of the sks key server [21:23]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: it isn't one specific server, but a network of mirrors [21:23]
asciilifeform entirely automatic [21:23]
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asciilifeform typically users of pgp/gpg upload their public keys there, and they can later be retrieved by anyone using a hash of the key [21:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00033258 = 2.7937 BTC [-] [21:24]
alphonse23_ oh, so if you want to store your pgp some where, so anyone can verify it's you, you upload it to sks [21:24]
alphonse23_ i've been using a service called keybase.io lately. Is that a noob service? [21:25]
ben_vulpes !s keybase [21:25]
assbot 64 results for 'keybase' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=keybase [21:25]
shinohai keybase blows [21:25]
williamdunne Personally I like it, just don't store your keys there [21:26]
alphonse23_ I have some invite codes [21:26]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: if you let them generate keys for you, they have your private key. this ought to be elementarily obvious [21:26]
alphonse23_ if anyone wants them :) [21:26]
alphonse23_ that's a good point asciilifeform [21:26]
shinohai Thats just it, I wouldn't be storing my keys there. [21:26]
alphonse23_ that generate the primes right in front of you! :) [21:26]
alphonse23_ *they generate the primes [21:26]
williamdunne shinohai: Exactly, you don't have to, to use the service :) [21:26]
alphonse23_ I guess it's made very user friendly though [21:27]
shinohai It's nice and all, but I just don't see the advantage over plain gpg [21:27]
alphonse23_ it comes with a CLI app that lets you verify anyone on their servers [21:27]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: it is 'user friendly' in the same way that a mousetrap is mouse-friendly [21:27]
trinque alphonse23_: ever heard "if it's free, you're the product" ? [21:27]
alphonse23_ maybe though the issue is, where would one store a public key. on whose server [21:27]
alphonse23_ it would probably be like facebook, if it ever got popular. Which ever server became the most widespread. [21:28]
shinohai Don't. Use a keyring or a yubi. [21:28]
BingoBoingo maybe though the issue is, where would one store a public key. on whose server << Ideally if you want people to find your public key you spray it all over, but especially spray it in venues associated with your identity. [21:28]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: there is a large and well-established network of public key servers. e.g., https://pgp.mit.edu and other sks [21:29]
alphonse23_ I have many online identities. I think keybase.io purpose is to verify and unify those identities [21:29]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: they all mirror one another. [21:29]
alphonse23_ so people know it's you [21:29]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: for people whom you will never meet, 'you' are the key. and nothing else. [21:30]
alphonse23_ had no idea. I only used keybase.io because someone I know was using it, and I thought it was a great idea. [21:30]
trinque alphonse23_: if someone other than you knows your private key, it is by definition not private [21:30]
alphonse23_ I don't give out my private key [21:30]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: except to keybase? [21:30]
danielpbarron alphonse23_, the sites that keybase lets you link to your identity aren't really worth linking to your identity [21:31]
alphonse23_ well. they don't have my private key [21:31]
shinohai ^ danielpbarron [21:31]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: if you let them generate it, they have it [21:31]
trinque keybase sticks it in browser local storage, right? [21:31]
alphonse23_ but they did show the primes generated for it when I signed up for the service [21:31]
trinque alphonse23_: all they have to do is ship you some javascript once that reads that and transmits it elsewhere [21:31]
alphonse23_ so you could say it's a compromised service [21:31]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: the very idea is braindamaged [21:31]
alphonse23_ ok fine. But should I not trust keybase... [21:32]
alphonse23_ I'm not sure. I was just trying out the service [21:32]
williamdunne alphonse23_: Its compromised if you a) generate your keys with them, or b) store your keys with them. [21:32]
alphonse23_ but yes, I should probably micromanage my own keys and passwords [21:32]
williamdunne Its not even micromanaging, its just owning [21:33]
trinque one should use the same precautions with their bitcoin private keys. [21:34]
trinque you only own the coin if you *own* the private keys in the strictest sense [21:34]
danielpbarron the recommendation in here is to not even use newer versions of gpg, let alone some add-on made by a dating website guy [21:34]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: if someone else has a copy of your private key, whether because you let them generate it for you, or gave it up for storage for 'convenience', he can do anything which you can do. this ought to be obvious [21:35]
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alphonse23_ well. like I know that. [21:42]
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BingoBoingo alphonse23_: Well you do now. The question is what are you going to do about it? [21:42]
alphonse23_ I'm going to become paranoid, and start keeping track of my own keys [21:43]
alphonse23_ and stop being naive and trying out services from guys who start dating websites [21:43]
trinque !b 3 [21:44]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1STHGCG.txt ) [21:44]
trinque bravo! [21:44]
alphonse23_ I've actually been meaning to start using a key locker or something [21:44]
alphonse23_ but I haven't been able to find one. [21:44]
alphonse23_ any recommendations [21:44]
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asciilifeform alphonse23_: what is a 'key locker' ? [21:44]
alphonse23_ like, not necessarily a key locker, but somewhere to store passwords [21:44]
asciilifeform alphonse23_: you already own a device for storing passwords. it is attached to your shoulders. [21:45]
alphonse23_ my brain [21:46]
alphonse23_ but I use a lot of services online [21:46]
ben_vulpes passwords.gpg [21:46]
alphonse23_ and I don't really keep track of all my passwords [21:46]
alphonse23_ but I should [21:46]
alphonse23_ but I've been using the internet for years now. [21:46]
ben_vulpes derpy_web_passwords.gpg [21:46]
ben_vulpes super_important_passwords.gpg [21:46]
alphonse23_ k [21:49]
alphonse23_ I'll do that [21:49]
alphonse23_ thanks bitcon-assets [21:50]
punkman this uses gpg http://www.passwordstore.org/ [21:53]
BingoBoingo I've found KeyPassX adequate for storing tons of derpy web passwords. Also available on pretty much any OD [21:59]
BingoBoingo *OS [21:59]
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ben_vulpes punkman: hey that's neat [22:02]
punkman I usually recommend Keepass to people that have been using a single password for the past 15 years [22:03]
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BingoBoingo I've been using it a while every version I used is the same local machine only deal that encrypts the derpy web passwords together in a single database file. Working on all the *nixen is a plus [22:07]
shinohai http://marcwebbie.io/passpie/ [22:08]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> mod6 was working on getting one together but im sure he can use help << yeah, certainly on testing. i bought a pos box to use to build a physical gentoo box guide. i messed up something now grub is unhappy. I havne't been able to take a decent look at it since sunday morning. [22:08]
mod6 Anyway, help/testing is always welcome. [22:09]
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shinohai testing on what mod6 ? [22:09]
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danielpbarron i ran into issues with grub as well; ended up using the older version [22:21]
mod6 shinohai: oh, im creating a guide on how to build gentoo on a physical box. it seems that the handbook covers it mostly. except for me I had problems with some things. [22:23]
mod6 gentoo is a nightmare. [22:23]
danielpbarron once it's working it's quite nice [22:24]
mod6 but it has this uclibc hardened stage3 that i'd like to try out as a platform from which we can utilize building and testing the R. I. [22:24]
mod6 danielpbarron: i'll never enjoy it, i come from bsd. :] [22:25]
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mod6 anyway, yeah, im sure i just did something dumb on my end with gentoo. i got it working fine on AWS. [22:31]
mod6 im beginning to be skeptical that anyone can just get this working very easily though. [22:32]
shinohai I haven't delved into gentoo :/ [22:32]
mod6 so hopefully the guide I create will make it a bit easier. hopefully. [22:32]
shinohai btw, bitcoind built swimmingly on Ubuntu 14.04 [22:33]
shinohai Even though I don't like/use Ubuntu - it works. [22:33]
mod6 good to hear. thx :] [22:34]
mod6 x86-64 im guessing? [22:34]
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shinohai yes [22:36]
shinohai I just got bored and wanted to see if it would work on a spare shell I had. [22:37]
mod6 cool, thanks! [22:37]
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shinohai Everyone wants to know when you guys are gonna release the Windoze version /s [22:38]
mod6 Update: v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is at block: 335628 [22:38]
mod6 shinohai: haha. [22:39]
shinohai I haven't applied that patch yet :/ [22:39]
mod6 oh the 2 orphange ones? [22:41]
mod6 i wouldn't worry about it. these are experimental as of now. at a later time, they maybe included in a milestone release. [22:42]
mod6 unless you wanna test those seperately from your v0.5.3.1-RELEASE version [22:43]
shinohai Awesum. I hold off because I'm lazy and waiting for the first one to sync [22:43]
mod6 yeah, sounds good. [22:43]
shinohai I need to set up an image to test on. I was gonna try an Arch image. [22:43]
mod6 cool, if you do, let us know how it works out [22:44]
shinohai I have this crazy idea of getting it to run on those little arch images that work on Android [22:45]
shinohai xD [22:45]
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decimation outragous usg law > http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2014/09/25/11th-circuit-court-of-appeals-panel-kowtows-to-tsa/ [23:28]
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decimation https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46110 < " Findings of fact by the Secretary, Under Secretary, or Administrator, if supported by substantial evidence, are conclusive. " [23:29]
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mircea_popescu decimation soviet justice moved more and more towards administrative adjudication too [23:32]
mircea_popescu soon enough thewy had police courts. [23:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha. [23:33]
decimation heh what is a 'police court' [23:33]
decimation a collection of police who decide to throw you in the gulag? [23:34]
decimation more and more it seems like the judicial branch simply acts as a rubber stamp for the executive [23:34]
decimation and where it might have a modicum of oversight, congress stamps it down [23:35]
mircea_popescu a police court is the choice way to deal with drunks and domestic disputes. [23:36]
mircea_popescu as the citizenry loses intellectual capacity and political standing, all its complaints look more and more like the results of drunken revelry and sexual stubbornness [23:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform also, 29 is a new prime innit. [23:37]
decimation 'drunks and domestic disputes' consume the vast majority of the court's time [23:37]
decimation somehow they are in a hurry to get back to them, rather than thinking about the wider ramifications of the government's assertations [23:38]
decimation at any rate, that papersplease.org is a pretty good blog, has much to say on the police state in the us, especially with with respect to flying [23:38]
BingoBoingo 'drunks and domestic disputes' consume the vast majority of the court's time << Fuck you my case has only been a plaque in neighboring county's arteries for two years nao [23:39]
mircea_popescu lol [23:40]
decimation BingoBoingo: ask any cop what the majority of his calls are, and generally the answer is 'domestics' [23:41]
decimation and generally the domestics involve drunks [23:41]
BingoBoingo decimation: this particular local most 911 calls are loud cars after 10pm [23:42]
decimation heh [23:42]
decimation loud cars suck. for some reason americans are in love with enragingly loud cars/motorbikes [23:42]
BingoBoingo Fuck, I really am torn on whether ot not to approve spam comment for "mosin nagant 10 round magazine" [23:42]
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BingoBoingo But I mean if the US Supreme court takes the Elonis case's legacy further... they will have to answer is drunk a Mens Rea [23:44]
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decimation americans can be herded like cattle through airports, tracked, tagged, and spied upon, but they really get pissed if you try to clamp down on loud/poorly operating cars/bikes [23:44]
decimation 'you can't take away our freedom' [23:44]
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mod6 http://qntra.net/2015/06/foundation-report-bring-bitcoin-client-performance-improvement-and-testing/#comment-25527 << speaking of comments, this was nice. [23:45]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l, mosin took stripperclips not mags [23:45]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Yeah. Imma guessing that the product is replacement for the fixed factory mag which would hold 10 rounds instead of 5, but link leads nowhere comprehensible in browser. [23:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see log for diff, incl. screenshot of visualdiff [23:46]
BingoBoingo mod6: As best as I can tell twas not a #b-a regular who said that so major props [23:47]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151853 << there wasn't that much there to extinguish in the first place. [23:47]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 21:52:56; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151841 << embrace, extend, extinguish (TM) (R) [23:47]
mircea_popescu openssh is probably the most important contribution to software insecurity in history of computing. [23:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that'd be openssl [23:48]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Confusing it with OpenSSL again [23:48]
mircea_popescu darn [23:48]
mircea_popescu wait [23:48]
BingoBoingo OpenSSH is the OpenBSD ssh implementation [23:48]
mircea_popescu windows is putting SSH in ?! [23:48]
BingoBoingo Yeah [23:48]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was the item, yes [23:48]
decimation asciilifeform: have you used coverity? [23:48]
asciilifeform must inject microshit into the one protocol which had no microshittery, yes [23:49]
mircea_popescu i had thought they had just given up on their own version of telnet-ssl. [23:49]
asciilifeform decimation: nope [23:49]
mircea_popescu since "open source"-usg is doing so well at it. [23:49]
decimation apparently coverity allows you to submit your code/binary to their tool, will spit out potential bugs [23:50]
decimation it might be mildly interesting to do so for the bitcoin reference implementation [23:50]
decimation I would fully expect reams of shit though [23:50]
BingoBoingo Honestly I worry moar for pete and the other Candidians than I do for the USians. [23:50]
asciilifeform decimation: 1) take 'lint' 2) close source, put on www as-service 3) ??? 4) profit!!11!!1 [23:50]
mircea_popescu decimation how does it work ? [23:50]
decimation heh I don't think it's that simple [23:50]
mircea_popescu basically what alf said + benefit of doubt. [23:50]
BingoBoingo Must collect arms in case defense of Theo becomes necessary [23:51]
decimation https://scan.coverity.com/ < here's the ad page [23:51]
decimation I have no doubt it would produce much noise, but it is a possible starting point [23:51]
decimation interestingly 'bitcoin' has already been submitted [23:51]
asciilifeform where is the output ? [23:52]
decimation https://scan.coverity.com/projects/1683 [23:52]
decimation I think you need to get an account, I will try to see if it is that easy [23:52]
decimation I'm not sure if they also submitted the deps, but bitcoin weighs in at 16 million lines of code [23:53]
asciilifeform l0l wat [23:53]
decimation yes, that's what the scanner says [23:54]
mod6 haha [23:54]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151875 << dawg, did i call it or did i call it lmao [23:54]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 22:08:48; trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-usa-security-surveillance-passage-idUSKBN0OI2I920150602 << oh good, they added slightly more bureaucratic procedure to the surveillance, and decided they'd outsource the data storage to the companies themselves... [23:54]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the lulzy part is that it was -already- handled this way. only thing that will change (once anyone gets around to it) is a few lines in a spreadshit [23:54]
asciilifeform for accounting [23:55]
mircea_popescu meyah [23:55]
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asciilifeform http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1128 [23:55]
asciilifeform 'Andy confirmed that Coverity does not spot the heartbleed flaw and said that it remained stubborn even when they tweaked various analysis settings.' [23:55]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151894 << yes, actually. [23:55]
decimation heh yeah [23:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform generally, it is a safe assumption that any diddlomatics coming out of nsa are highly engineered to bypass automatic detection [23:56]
BingoBoingo 'Andy confirmed that Coverity does not spot the heartbleed flaw and said that it remained stubborn even when they tweaked various analysis settings.' << Can't spot heartbleed because custom OpenSSL malloc [23:56]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 22:27:24; ascii_field: at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples. [23:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the basic concept that must be understood is that c/cpp are entirely impossible to 'reason' about mechanically [23:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-06-2015#1151908 << it was mentioned, came to this same problem [23:57]
assbot Logged on 02-06-2015 22:35:55; jurov: but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed [23:57]
asciilifeform due to the way pointer arithmetic works [23:57]
BingoBoingo custom OpenSSL malloc and its impenatrability is why OpenBSD forked LibreSSL [23:58]
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asciilifeform languages where a program is intended to be 'rationated' by means of machine, tend to be agonizingly restrictive [23:58]
asciilifeform !s ada ravenscar [23:58]
assbot 0 results for 'ada ravenscar' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ada+ravenscar [23:58]
asciilifeform !s ravenscar [23:58]
assbot 0 results for 'ravenscar' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ravenscar [23:58]
asciilifeform hm [23:58]
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asciilifeform http://docs.adacore.com/sparkdocs-docs/Examiner_Ravenscar.htm [23:58]
decimation I thought it was SPARK [23:58]
decimation http://spinroot.com/p10/ < 10 rules for safety critical code [23:59]
decimation bitcoin violates nearly all of them [23:59]
asciilifeform decimation: 'ravenscar' is a yet-more-bsdm-ish spark [23:59]
decimation heh awesome [23:59]
mircea_popescu alphonse23_ you read http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/ an http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/ i expect ? [23:59]
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