Forum logs for 31 Jan 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in http://qntra.net/2019/01/constant-time-miller-rabin-test-added-to-finite-field-arithmetic/ , plox s/informating/informing [10:29]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, fxd [10:35]
shinohai: I am observing new trb node I hadn't seen previously, from "Mir Telematiki Ltd" .... is phf? [11:07]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://allmonitors.net/ [11:17]
mircea_popescu: the "forum investment" crowd build its SECOND layer of indirection. now there's a meta-meta-checker, because "Some HYIP programs may leave only good status seals on their sites and remove or forge bad once. With our site you may check all HYIP monitors of any HYIP. Also some HYIP monitors may accept 'special monitor' plans, may promote SCAM. That is why we have monitor ranking." [11:18]
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, advertising page "We accept Perfect Money only." and their stats are something else lmao : http://allmonitors.net/adstat/ [11:21]
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc that was 1 of mircea_popescu's [11:43]
asciilifeform: ( tho not necessarily, it's a fairly big ru isp ) [11:44]
shinohai: kk, just hadn't seen it show up in my daily nodes check before. (Nice to see 10 nodes online however) [11:47]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'remove or forge bad once' << lol, apparently even used the mandatory spamglish ( where idea is that reader with 3 neurons to rub together stops reading in <5sec, and doesn't waste the scammer's time) [11:50]
mircea_popescu: it's kind-of an interesting object from an anthropologists' pov. sorta like the klein bottle for the analytic geometer i guess. [11:51]
mircea_popescu: i mean, i can't fucking predict, what next, FOURTH indirection layer ? doing what exactly, it destroys meaning, how can you distinguish between a meta-monitor and a meta-meta-monitor ? [11:52]
asciilifeform: !#s little fleas [11:56]
a111: 12 results for "little fleas", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=little%20fleas [11:56]
asciilifeform: ^ see also. [11:56]
BingoBoingo: Per http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-30-jan-2019#2513913 I will be proceeding to the basement to emplace a new rockchip in the pilot plant and extract the old one. No downtime is anticipated, but I cannot completely rule out the possibility. [11:57]
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 17:48 BingoBoingo: I am planning to emplace the new Rockchip tomorrow. No downtime is planned, but removing the old and placing the new is going to take some dexterity. [11:57]
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo , lemme know when it's ready for the smoketest [11:58]
BingoBoingo: Will do [11:58]
asciilifeform: btw this is a 4GB rk. and moved in record time, also, <6d from gringostan to BingoBoingo [11:59]
mircea_popescu: nb. [12:00]
mircea_popescu: do you have a battery of molestation tests at emergence end ? [12:01]
BingoBoingo: The dead RK will be packaged for transit to alf's testbench [12:01]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing doesn't (as far as anyone knows) contain any writables on board. so test of new unit is limited to BingoBoingo's visual inspection and the ordinary smoke test. [12:02]
mircea_popescu: alrighty. [12:02]
BingoBoingo: It will be photographed extensively before entering the mail. [12:02]
BingoBoingo: Headed out the door. [12:02]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: snap a photo of the new one plox also. [12:02]
asciilifeform: both sides. [12:02]
BingoBoingo: Ok, stopping to photograph [12:03]
mircea_popescu: could one identify a lifted chip by comparing board photos ? [12:04]
asciilifeform: incidentally, re molestations -- asciilifeform's ad hoc xray box suxx balls, 20kV doesn't penetrate anyffin, even the oil around the tube. i'm considering getting a proper ( with adjustable voltage, and closable banksafe-style shield box ) industrial board xrayer. [12:04]
asciilifeform: originally intended just for the bolix, but nao thinking it'd make for a decent added molestation search for certain items. [12:05]
BingoBoingo: New RK photo'd headed out the door [12:06]
asciilifeform: can , for instance, determine whether solder has been reflowed ( given a control photo ) [12:06]
mircea_popescu: definitely some penetration would help there. [12:08]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tricky part is that 'just get dentist's' dunwork, ~over~penetration is problem for pcb. [12:08]
mircea_popescu: (it's a decent paranoid thought, this -- that the ban on lead solder is because nobus, otherwise trivial to identify lead wave patterns in the solder with small xray) [12:09]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they work a++ on pbfree just the same [12:09]
asciilifeform: if you set the kilovolt knob to the right spot. [12:09]
mircea_popescu: do they ? [12:09]
* mircea_popescu never saw one. only saw old pb ones in a diff time [12:10]
asciilifeform: they do, it's how bga work is done [12:10]
mircea_popescu: ah okay. [12:10]
asciilifeform: ( added bonus, could rework bga... ) [12:10]
mircea_popescu: paranoia doesn't pay. [12:10]
asciilifeform: lol except when does [12:10]
mircea_popescu: you know ? [12:11]
mircea_popescu: "just because your paranoia doesn't pay doesn't mean paranoia doesn't pay"!!! [12:11]
asciilifeform: it's a sort of vegas, but imho moar interesting. [12:11]
mircea_popescu: higher stakes, too [12:11]
mircea_popescu: vegas only does money. [12:12]
asciilifeform: will be interesting to find out, e.g., which 'this is a straight usb cable, honest' actually contain chips [12:12]
asciilifeform: and so on [12:12]
mircea_popescu: i thought video was the fave spot. [12:12]
asciilifeform: historically [12:12]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/rfYsS << see also. [12:12]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the real bitch is that one is stuck doing old-fashioned b&w chemistry for each shot ( there are digital sensors, but they cost like toyota.. ) [12:22]
mircea_popescu: well, once pizarro gets a buncha customers toyota might be a good investment. [12:23]
asciilifeform: indeed [12:23]
asciilifeform: i did obtain a crate of 'polaroid'-style self-developing films (and, i shit thee not, 'made in UAE') but they're tiny 35mm things. intended to put in mouth, for teeth. [12:24]
asciilifeform: for some uses this actually suffices tho. [12:25]
asciilifeform: ( loox like a kind of opaque condom, with film in it. after exposing, you hand-massage the thing and it develops. ) [12:26]
mircea_popescu: there's larger mouth film, they do panoramics for fitting dentures [12:26]
asciilifeform: there is indeed. can even get a3-sized film. but ordinary, rather than polaroidistic. [12:26]
mircea_popescu: hm [12:29]
asciilifeform: iirc we actually had a thread re solder-as-seals. (or possibly meat convo at c2?) [12:29]
asciilifeform: after reflow, 'all the king's horses and all the king's men' cannot make the ball look exactly as prev. [12:29]
mircea_popescu: there was a whole thing re seals at c2. [12:30]
asciilifeform: seals imho are a very interesting subj, ~after~ one subtracts the homeopathy and outright disinfo [12:39]
mircea_popescu: just like everything else. [12:40]
mircea_popescu: cooking and fucking, and math and plumbing, and carpentry and horsehandling and fucking canoe paddling. [12:41]
asciilifeform: verily [12:42]
mircea_popescu: clean the amateurs off a field, suddenly it becomes something a man could take an interest in and enjoy doing so. [12:44]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in latrine-america high tech , http://ru-ar.ru/bolivia/2014-07-20(162)bolivia.jpg [12:49]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and others, new Rockchip is in place [12:49]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: appears to work [12:50]
asciilifeform: logged in nao. [12:51]
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo [12:51]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: feel free to peel off heatsink before sending off the dead unit [12:51]
asciilifeform: it can be spare [12:51]
BingoBoingo: ty, withdrawing [12:51]
asciilifeform: that was pretty fast. [12:51]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well I brought a set of small brown hands that take instruction to hold the pilot plant in place when it was unscrewed from the posts. [13:17]
BingoBoingo: With substantial clamps and scaffolding it could have been a one person job [13:19]
BingoBoingo: brb, meat [13:23]
asciilifeform: speaking of BingoBoingo's harems, whatever happened to that other one [13:52]
asciilifeform: the 1 from ukrazuela [13:52]
BingoBoingo: Sheltering in place at Mom's house with the dogs [13:53]
asciilifeform: still resists evacuation eh [13:53]
BingoBoingo: Nevermind that as latinos that can do international aviation with cedulas, apparently mom needs a passport. I suspect someone in the family is unhealthily attached to the 6 gar garage. [13:54]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: does it actually contain 6car ? [13:55]
BingoBoingo: One car, immobile. Several orcycles and scooters of which 1 or two function at any given time. [13:56]
asciilifeform: nuts [13:56]
BingoBoingo: Mega fence, mega dog, small orchard. Typical middle class qatari home. [13:57]
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/01/31/peso-watch-january-2019/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Peso Watch January 2019 [14:17]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/us-manufacturing-on-pause-amid-natural-gas-shortages-michigan-residents-urged-to-lower-thermostats-amid-deep-freeze/ << Qntra -- US Manufacturing On Pause Amid Natural Gas Shortages, Michigan Residents Urged To Lower Thermostats Amid Deep Freeze [16:27]
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, celcius -> celsius [16:34]
BingoBoingo: ty diana_coman, fxd [16:34]
BingoBoingo: In other news after last night's blog publication what coincidentally leads the evening news tonight "Empleo en baja" and "Desempleo" [16:57]
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/01/hopper-update-january-2019/ << lobbesblog -- Hopper update: January 2019 [17:15]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/italian-law-enforcement-steal-two-tons-of-cocaine-in-transit-59-year-old-spaniard-arrested-for-recieving-containers-full-of-salt/ << Qntra -- Italian "Law Enforcement" Steal Two Tons Of Cocaine In Transit, 59 Year Old Spaniard Arrested For Recieving Containers Full Of Salt [17:20]
BingoBoingo: Word "receiving" fxd [17:25]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/qntra-s-qntr-january-2019-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) January 2019 Report [19:04]
feedbot: http://explo.yt/post/2018/11/22/Flat-for-sale << serialized delusions -- Flat for sale [19:06]
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local memes https://i.redd.it/lp5maqrh8nd21.png "The gil laburante vs The Chad Motochorro" [19:20]
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, The State of Bitcoin Address for January 2019: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2019-February/000323.html [20:11]
mod6: Take that, Nancy. [20:12]
asciilifeform: mod6: neato [20:22]
asciilifeform: hm i thought jurov lived in germany nowadays [20:22]
mod6: Ah, thanks asciilifeform. [20:22]
mod6: No clue, tbh. [20:23]
asciilifeform: mod6: iirc he moved coupla yrs ago, it was in the log [20:23]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc in usa they traditionally use sugar, rather than salt, for these.. ( why -- i do not know ) [20:24]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, us-istan reads just like 1989s romania. [20:51]
mircea_popescu: o check it out, jurov moving. i wonder where to ? [20:53]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was digging for that 1 trilema piece where 'the housewife... waits until wolf's hour of night to cook the food, that's when gas pressure' but didn't in o(1) find [20:55]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2009/comunismul-capitalismul-si-oprimarea-femeii/#selection-59.493-59.579 [20:57]
asciilifeform: aa! [20:57]
asciilifeform: yes that one [20:57]
mircea_popescu: this shared search thing works quite well huh. [20:57]
asciilifeform: tho for somereason i thought i read it in an engl one [20:58]
mircea_popescu: possibru it exists also in translation [20:59]
asciilifeform: was apparently here http://trilema.com/2017/%D0%9A%D1%82%D0%BE-%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8/#selection-151.0-185.218 [21:03]
asciilifeform: for bonus lulz, the gas infrastructure of these people (gringostan, not shoemaker's ro, i cannot comment re the latter) is a lul. not even to mention the fact that they pretend to also ~export~... [21:07]
asciilifeform: leaks on erry other street intersection ( and for years at a time, folx call'em in, diggers dig, 3days later again leak ) [21:07]
asciilifeform: or the pumping stations ( unmarked on maps, cuz 'strategic', but quite visible from street ) [21:08]
asciilifeform: 1 , not far from asciilifeform , used to have 3 concentric concertina fences ( dunno whether minefield b/w or not ) , then coupla yrs ago all but 1 removed , i suspect they got tired of painting 3 [21:08]
asciilifeform: or when they switched from iron pipe to corrugated aluminum + rubber hose ( yes exactly like one sees on sovok kitchen stoves, but ~buried~ and km-length ) [21:09]
asciilifeform: and whoknows what else, i'm not even aficionado of subj [21:10]
mircea_popescu: pretty sad. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: truth of the matter is, natgas is actually ~quite abrasive~, esp in climates where it cools significantly. [21:11]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck they expect to make those pipes work is anyone's guess. "rubber", as fucking if. [21:11]
asciilifeform: slow zimbabwefication. ( with the diff that ~this~ zimbabwe has winter ) [21:12]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890704 << only where it matters. human hands in, human hands out. within bot, go to town. even if the approach isn't perfect, it makes exploits a pain in the ass to monetize, so why bother. [22:35]
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 16:10 asciilifeform: imho the only possible arg against it is if you have e.g. 2 hands but 500 worth of process. but evidently jurov , trinque , et al had <= 2 hands worth [22:35]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890817 << brother flies I grab controls only to amuse myself [22:36]
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 18:29 asciilifeform: e.g. trinque [22:36]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-31#1891133 << this is correct, and where cuntoo lacks proper trb deps (if it does) cuntoo is wrong [22:37]
a111: Logged on 2019-01-31 02:14 asciilifeform: i dun recall whether trinque specifically tested this, but as i understand it oughta work precisely like-so. [22:37]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect the Italians hated the boat and don't subsidize hawaiian cane sugar [23:08]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how the fuck they expect to make those pipes work is anyone's guess. "rubber", as fucking if. << If I went back to old country I don't think I could ever buy a house after seeing the local concrete glory. [23:21]
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