Forum logs for 30 Apr 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: [00:03]
trinque: adlai: where's the suicide note deed? was that one of your poems? [00:06]
trinque: and hats off to asciilifeform! [00:06]
trinque: rss was in there from last time, steadfastly waiting for the next great phuctoring [00:07]
trinque: adlai: I'd wager you'd be saner with - y'know - fewer drugs in bloodstream. [00:08]
trinque: hell I quit coffee entirely about 3wks ago, feel great [00:08]
trinque: after I kick cigs I'll be fit to sow the lord's blessed seed at a mormon temple [00:10]
pete_dushenski: << i like. top two esp. [00:23]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:12 mod6: [00:23]
pete_dushenski: << this seems to be going around [00:23]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:55 ben_vulpes: i'll probably be even less communicative than i've been for the next month or two [00:23]
pete_dushenski: like the jewish plague. now imagine the beak on ~that~ mask. [00:24]
pete_dushenski: << brrrravo [00:24]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:59 deedbot: [Loper OS] Phuctor is Back! - [00:24]
pete_dushenski: later tell mircea_popescu << you schadenfreuded ? ~i~ think i broke new psychohistorical ground by schadenfreuding myself! it was like watching a train wreck in slow motion and it was like i was trying to laugh myself to death before the impact took all the glory [00:26]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [00:26]
pete_dushenski: later tell adlai << cheers [00:27]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [00:27]
* pete_dushenski just realised he needs to drop out of valley girl school. "it was like this, it was like totally omg that" [00:28]
pete_dushenski: << the only place i'd previously heard of the retardendo locals doing this is venezuela. [00:29]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-29 01:03 mircea_popescu: they also believe "de lujo" means 60k crap from the us, fucking ford fiestas and whatnit [00:29]
pete_dushenski: and for venezuelans fighting 50% per annum hyperinflation and with a litre of gas at $0.02, it sorta made sense [00:30]
adlai: trinque: thread starting [00:34]
a111: Logged on 2015-11-10 01:07 asciilifeform: ty [00:34]
adlai: later tell pete_dushenski i'm right here, no need to sic the dogs after me [00:34]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [00:34]
pete_dushenski: but further supporting the unique brand of lunacy in the southern half of the americas are quotes like this, which displays magnitudes of sales volume fluctuation unseen anywhere else on the planet : "Outsold by Chevrolet in January, Volkswagen reclaims the top spot this month with 8.359 sales and 17.5% share but is up just 3% vs. +64% for Chevrolet at 8.253 units and 17.3%." [00:35]
pete_dushenski: adlai: myea, my bad eh [00:35]
pete_dushenski: who knew i'd get rusty so fast ? [00:36]
* adlai stepped aside from laptop to handroll his first usb condom [00:36]
mircea_popescu: << i've been smoking less and less myself. no idea exactly why, but i've had this tin of cigarillos since last year / [00:36]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 04:10 trinque: after I kick cigs I'll be fit to sow the lord's blessed seed at a mormon temple [00:36]
mircea_popescu: << all part of your twat charm :D [00:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 04:28 pete_dushenski just realised he needs to drop out of valley girl school. "it was like this, it was like totally omg that" [00:37]
pete_dushenski: haha! [00:37]
pete_dushenski: i get called a jerk and asshole all the time, but not twat much [00:37]
pete_dushenski: << for all the chrome using ostriches [00:38]
mircea_popescu: the difference between venezuela and argentina is ~20 years. [00:38]
mircea_popescu: brazil soon to follow, at the rate they've been dekulakizing. [00:38]
adlai: << fwiw is a prototype for upcoming RFC, "proof by example of the key revocation protocol" [00:40]
a111: Logged on 2015-11-10 01:32 ben_vulpes: [00:40]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: did you ever consider moving to brazil [00:41]
mircea_popescu: nope. [00:41]
mircea_popescu: too hot. [00:41]
adlai: includes proper seppuku, ie, privkey cleartext in `strings -n 20 .bitcoin/etc` [00:41]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: there's that eh [00:42]
adlai: because death, like all else, has a cost. [00:42]
pete_dushenski: tough to beat brasilian beauties though [00:42]
adlai: the men are all wrong though, pressuring the women to butt up and bust down [00:43]
adlai: sk has the surgery polarization correct [00:43]
pete_dushenski: brasilian men are also fat losers [00:44]
adlai: i'll fit right in! [00:44]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not so tough. i can appreciate a green eye mulatto, and a brazillian butt, sure. [00:44]
mircea_popescu: but then again i can appreciate many things. provided they're not chinese. [00:44]
pete_dushenski: lol but weren't you moving to chengdu next ? [00:45]
mircea_popescu: notrly. can't quite sell self on it. [00:45]
* pete_dushenski seems to recall "mp moving to mainland" thread [00:45]
pete_dushenski: speaking of china and incentives [00:46]
mircea_popescu: think about that, 3 bucks a km IN THE AMBULANCE. [00:47]
mircea_popescu: think about it #2 : chinese man outraged that 80km ride in ambulance cost almost half the average nat'l wage. [00:47]
mircea_popescu: that, in ustard terms, would be about $800 [00:47]
pete_dushenski: gotta be up in 6 hours... laters! [01:05]
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 529 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'David J. Watt <> ' - [04:19]
danielpbarron: << ahh, phuctor broke the Heimann ! [10:47]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:34 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 4294967297 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Andreas Heimann <> ' - [10:47]
danielpbarron: << this came up already >> [10:50]
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 04:34 danielpbarron: >> A.A. admits they have no cure, but that's because they are under the delusion that there isn't one. [10:50]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 03:37 adlai: danielpbarron: what do you have to say about the 12step meme's appropriation of your memeplex in step 1? (and its appropriation of bb's brain, but that's another matter, and better memes than liquor dreams) [10:50]
BingoBoingo: Seeing no alf submissions... [11:29]
deedbot: [Qntra] US Congress Considers Expanding Authority Of Bureaucratic Magistrates - [11:30]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : [11:38]
mircea_popescu: peabody awards channel. 0 subscribers. head of warner animation dept acceptance speech. 360 views. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: THE INTERNETS [11:38]
BingoBoingo: srsly [11:39]
mircea_popescu: in their defense, the fee to propose an entrant is ~80 bitcents rather than 50 bitcoin. [11:41]
* mircea_popescu goes to check if qntra article references expansions of police judicial powers in soviet union. [11:42]
BingoBoingo: Mostly mocks magistrates as not real judges [11:44]
mircea_popescu: "Neatly mirroring the decaying implementation of Justice in the Soviet Union fifty years prior, The United States Congress is considering changing a number of rule changes to the Federal Rules of" [11:44]
mircea_popescu: "Chief among this changes is broadening the authority of" these ? [11:44]
mircea_popescu: sub-judicial magistrate "judges" becomes "police station gonzos" [11:45]
mircea_popescu: and generally methinks the official view going forward should be that a) magistrate "judges" are in no sense and to no degree different from police detectives and b) no valid authority is vested in them. as teh beast will perforce find itself more and more dependent and reliant on their offices, helps to have the message out first. [11:46]
BingoBoingo: updatit [11:51]
BingoBoingo: Relatit [11:52]
mircea_popescu: lol [11:53]
mircea_popescu: hey, it's hard to argue that mulatto kids look always better than their black parent and about half the time better than the white one too. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "is considering changing a number of rule changes to the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure" > is considering changing the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure [11:54]
shinohai: ticker [11:55]
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 452.01, Best ask: 452.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 452.01, 24 hour volume: 13094.32934436, 24 hour low: 450.0, 24 hour high: 457.49, 24 hour vwap: None [11:55]
BingoBoingo: aha, fxd [11:55]
mircea_popescu: recall teh what-s-his-name derp. "personalize". mp is immune from personalization the uscongress is not. exploit this difference, thus therefore "is considering changing" rathert than "is considering changes to". first rhymes with "taking a crap into" way the fuck better. [11:55]
BingoBoingo: ic [11:56]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "what's his name" evaluated to saul d. alinsky. [11:56]
BingoBoingo: yeah, fucking chicago pederast [11:57]
BingoBoingo: Hastert, Alinsky, Bahamas... fuck chicago [11:58]
mircea_popescu: for a strict recap : 1. power is not just what you have, but also what the enemy thinks you have. arbitrage every difference, to your benefit. punish the enemy ruthlessly when it dares challenge the latter part, chinese or no chinese, cartel or no cartel. [11:58]
mircea_popescu: 2. never go outside the expertise of your wot always go outside the expertise of enemy's. [11:59]
mircea_popescu: 3. make them live to their book of rules. if you also have a book of rules you lose. [11:59]
mircea_popescu: and on it goes. not half bad. [11:59]
mircea_popescu: also lolz at the wikipedia-sanitized version of anarchism, reinterpreted as variations of the "golden rule" brand. ya i'm sure, and cars are a sort of Ford amirite. vivat intellectual property! [12:11]
mircea_popescu: "you may call your socialism anything you wish including anarchism for as long as the allequal principle is not molested" hurr. [12:12]
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> in their defense, the fee to propose an entrant is ~80 bitcents rather than 50 bitcoin. << i lolled [12:23]
mircea_popescu: :p [12:25]
jurov: $rate adlai -999 junkie!!! cnat keep secrets!!!! [14:53]
deedbot: (<= 0 (abs rating) 10) [14:53]
jurov: and iirc i have asked BingoBoingo about what is so exceptional on my service, he was like "as compared to anything in the US" [14:55]
jurov: and re:holding s.qntr your concerns are misplaced. No one expressly forbade me to flip/short/margin/whrtever them, then there was gracious donation from princessnell who lost her key cand could not think of any way how to prove her identity otherwise, etc... [14:57]
ben_vulpes: oh brutal i didn't know princessnell'd hosed herself [15:00]
ben_vulpes: (heh great error message, trinque ) [15:00]
jurov: actually it means you can give 0 rating? [15:05]
jurov: $rate 0 tripleslash nfi [15:06]
deedbot: hands you a broomstick. [15:06]
shinohai: lo [15:06]
jurov: $rate tripleslash 0 nfi [15:07]
deedbot: (<= 0 (abs rating) 10) [15:07]
jurov: someone here fils at maffs! [15:07]
jurov: *fails [15:07]
jurov: trinque check yer intervals [15:07]
trinque: ah testicles [15:24]
trinque: that's just a string error message [15:24]
trinque: fix it later [15:25]
trinque: nvm, perfectionism. [15:25]
trinque: $rate jurov 9000 bug finder [15:34]
deedbot: (<= 1 (abs rating) 10) [15:34]
jurov: trinque: that's not string, but s-expr :D [15:42]
BingoBoingo: [16:38]
shinohai: ^ lulz [16:44]
BingoBoingo: OMFG IS THIS A RESPONSE TO pete_dushenski? [16:45]
mircea_popescu: loller. [16:47]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> oh brutal i didn't know princessnell'd hosed herself << o.O [16:48]
shinohai: Gracious donations to shareholders? [16:51]
mircea_popescu: to the broker, logically. [16:51]
shinohai: well to jurov, yes [17:00]
shinohai: >.< [17:00]
jurov: shinohai: looks like need some clarification wrt the line-up? [17:03]
jurov: *you need [17:03]
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5371 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Ben Boeckel <> Ben Boeckel <> ' - [17:16]
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1687922147721 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Kristof Koerner <> Kristof Koerner <> Kristof Koerner <> ' - [17:18]
mircea_popescu: in related news, [19:02]
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform you created a household brand [19:03]
mircea_popescu: soon things will be "the phuctor of dating" etc. [19:03]
mircea_popescu: a nm, i see you commented thar. [19:05]
mircea_popescu: and in vaguely interesting news, [19:22]
shinohai: [19:42]
BingoBoingo: Just like pee-dog [19:43]
hanbot: <jurov> and re:holding s.qntr your concerns are misplaced. No one expressly forbade me to flip/short/margin/whrtever them, then there was gracious donation from princessnell who lost her key cand could not think of any way how to prove her identity otherwise, etc... << err, if "she" lost her key, how'd she prove it was her that lost it? [19:47]
mircea_popescu: good q eh. [19:50]
BingoBoingo: Perhaps had key requested jurov say that? [19:55]
hanbot: i wouldn't be at all surprised if w/e tranquil pools of the republic are rippled with social engineering attempts [19:57]
mod6: hi [20:03]
mod6: <+adlai> mod6: and i say this with greatest regard for alf, but i will probably get more "12step" mileage out of your T-shirt (of the hair variety, sadly, but trimmer than orgmode!) than trb and phuctor, combined << wut? you lost me there amigo. [20:06]
deedbot: [Trilema] Hail Cesar! - [20:06]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> by now the phuctor rss is actually a major reason to watch this chan. i have nfi how one could be "in crypto/compsec/sysadmin" and NOT want to see the key holes in real time. << the congressional record is reason enough but with broadcasted ass fuckings, all the more reason indeed Sir. [20:11]
mod6: i <3 s.nsa [20:11]
mod6: glad to see phuctor back [20:12]
mod6: Salud, asciilifeform! [20:13]
asciilifeform: ty mod6 [20:22]
asciilifeform: << that thing is from eons ago ! [20:22]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 23:02 mircea_popescu: in related news, [20:22]
asciilifeform: Phuctored: 5371 divides ... <> << l0l!! [20:22]
asciilifeform: ^ not 'mirrored' either! [20:23]
mod6: jeeze [20:41]
mod6: we've discussed a lot of things in here.. have we talked about anything that you can say isn't a total pile of shit as far as a physical random number generator? [20:42]
mod6: outside of dice? [20:42]
mod6: is there some sortof radioactive decay thing that you've see or used that is worth the money? [20:42]
mod6: s/see/seen/ [20:42]
mircea_popescu: hopefully cardano already! [20:49]
mod6: i need a lab, and some co-57 [20:49]
mircea_popescu: why co57 ? [20:51]
mod6: err, i was as thinking 56, but hell i dunn [20:52]
mod6: o [20:52]
mod6: i need some random numbers [20:52]
mircea_popescu: 4 [20:52]
mircea_popescu: ^ [20:52]
mod6: 56 has a halflife of like 77.27 days [20:53]
mircea_popescu: listen, you don't specifically need radioactive decay. you could do something as simple as running a laser bean through six layers of mosquito net. [20:53]
mod6: hmm. [20:55]
mod6: 6 layer mosquito net is good enough defraction? or how's that work? [20:55]
mircea_popescu: well, you take a mouse apart, and stick a bunch of layers of tight netting in between the light and the detector element. [20:57]
mircea_popescu: the result will be some sort of noise. [20:57]
mircea_popescu: because yes, difraction. [20:57]
mod6: huh. [20:58]
mod6: ok. seems do-able. [20:59]
mircea_popescu: you can also buy a g-m counter, they're not terribly expensive, lay it on some ceramic tile or somesuch. [20:59]
mod6: sounds good, but why ceramic? [21:00]
mircea_popescu: the principal source of natural rads. [21:01]
mod6: wow, reading on this now.... [21:02]
mod6: no idea that it had any sortof rad level higher than background. thx Mr. P.! [21:05]
asciilifeform: i toured a lab today where i saw scintillating... ~fiber~. [21:26]
asciilifeform: end glows blue, to naked eye - constantly [21:26]
asciilifeform: (enough events, even indoors, for this) [21:26]
asciilifeform: pretty much solves the problems from which i refused to use geiger tube in my rng [21:27]
asciilifeform: (they need hv source, which in turn requires oscillator, which introduces nonrandom signal component ~and~ tube wears with time) [21:27]
asciilifeform: << no pricing, sadly. [21:28]
mod6: [21:28]
mod6: hey that's neat asciilifeform [21:30]
asciilifeform: << this setup is equivalent to microphone (the only random element is the vibration of the meshes) [21:30]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 00:57 mircea_popescu: the result will be some sort of noise. [21:30]
asciilifeform: 'some sort of noise' is very low bar, actual battlefield rng needs a number of other properties (chiefly, difficulty for the enemy in influencing or predicting the output) [21:31]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually that's the test for good fiber [22:14]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i posit that the mesh vibrator thing is ~= throwing dice. [22:15]
deedbot: [Qntra] Qntra (S.QNTR) April 2016 Report - [22:16]
mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference. [22:16]
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [22:23]
gribble: Current Blocks: 409645 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 1618 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 26 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [22:23]
asciilifeform: << aha, correlates with every passing truck, l0l! [22:25]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 02:16 mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference. [22:25]
asciilifeform: quite the difference!1111 [22:25]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor ddos...? [22:28]
asciilifeform: (not http, either, but 'classy', looks like syn flood) [22:32]
mircea_popescu: guess so. [22:32]
asciilifeform: gotta love public toiletnet [22:32]
mircea_popescu: eh truck my foot! [22:32]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr i see it. [22:33]
asciilifeform: also. [22:33]
asciilifeform: (but for 1/2 hr or so, it was blackhole) [22:33]
mircea_popescu: yawell... we got the rss and so on. dun sweat it. [22:33]
asciilifeform: in other l0ltr0n1cs, [22:39]
asciilifeform: 'By 1960... Shannon had retreated. He no longer participated much in the field that he had created, publishing only rarely.' [22:39]
asciilifeform: in yet other lelz, [22:48]
asciilifeform: 'kuraray' sells scintillar fibre ( ) , but: [22:50]
asciilifeform: 'The scintillating fiber is assigned in article 1 of the Export Trade Control Order as undermining the maintenance of international peace and safety. To export this item, an approval of the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry of Japan is required, so we need to confirm the end user and application for each sales. We may sell the fibers to you, but we would have to check and confirm the end user and application everytime we have [22:50]
asciilifeform: an inquiry from you, and we may not be able to accept some inquiries depending on the end user and application...' [22:50]
asciilifeform: (from catalogue.) [22:50]
asciilifeform: usg verboten ! [22:50]
asciilifeform: usg would rather that folks did not have cheap, low-power geigerz that never wear out [22:50]
asciilifeform: (and happily detect, e.g., neutron flux) [22:51]
asciilifeform: it is quite interesting, apparently this thing can be bought ~nowhere. [22:57]
asciilifeform: at least without 'note from hitler.' [22:58]
asciilifeform: (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) [22:59]
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaand here's the sorta folk who are hogging the goodz, and hear from their own mouth why: [23:05]
asciilifeform: 'we detect yer neutronz. and dun want you detecting ours, aha' [23:06]
asciilifeform: later tell mircea_popescu << lulzy. [23:11]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [23:11]
BingoBoingo: lasers [23:20]
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [23:20]
asciilifeform: grasers [23:23]
gribble: Error: "grasers" is not a valid command. [23:23]
asciilifeform: eh. [23:23]
BingoBoingo: masers [23:24]
gribble: Error: "masers" is not a valid command. [23:24]
BingoBoingo: laserkittens [23:24]
gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew* [23:24]
mod6: someone is knockin on all the doors alf [23:27]
* BingoBoingo wonders what it means when phuctor is DDoS on a day qntra barely recieved any comment spamzors [23:31]
mod6: btw, this snow crash book is pretty good. about 1/2 way through... [23:34]
asciilifeform: mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting [23:37]
BingoBoingo: The amazing load bearing capacity of the human spine brought to you by Beyonce [23:37]
BingoBoingo: [23:38]
BingoBoingo: Which of course is all leading up to OMG BITBET MOVEMENT! [23:43]
BingoBoingo: Holy shit buyer is doing something with site [23:44]
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