Forum logs for 28 Oct 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: https://jameslafond.blogspot.com/2017/10/conscripted-in-drug-war.html [00:49]
hanbot: <mod6> hanbot: eggwash = yoke included? << yeah, one egg whisked with splashomilk [01:29]
hanbot: !!up mircea_popescu [01:50]
deedbot: mircea_popescu voiced for 30 minutes. [01:50]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-28-oct-2017#2355348 << ftr, the canonical form is yolk only, no white no milk no nothing. [01:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 05:29 hanbot: <mod6> hanbot: eggwash = yoke included? << yeah, one egg whisked with splashomilk [01:51]
mircea_popescu: aand in other big data paintings, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/comms-chart-2.png [01:52]
hanbot: clearly i have disease of american capitalist, crazy shit stick on all sides of yolk and still not hit largest side of carcass [01:53]
mircea_popescu: ahaha [01:53]
hanbot: oh hey, that's pretty. what is it? [01:55]
mircea_popescu: hanbot you prolly recall, old fain datas, http://trilema.com/2011/2022353/ [01:58]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/un-borghese-piccolo-piccolo/ << Trilema - Un borghese piccolo piccolo [02:01]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729713 << This is probably least healthy thing to be doing unless storing fuel for next "burn the ships on touching shore" move. The sorta resentments probable on returning to the big prison sound a lot like how people get lost in bottles. [02:02]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 11:19 asciilifeform: plane back to shitschwitz in couplea days [02:02]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh, alcohol is expensive and doesn't exist. he's safe. [02:03]
hanbot: mircea_popescu oh yeah, neat [02:04]
BingoBoingo: Eh, there's no drunk worse than a dry drunk [02:04]
mircea_popescu: as the old "there's no rot worse than dry rot" ? [02:04]
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Companion phrase is "The second best treatment for the alcoholic problems is booze" [02:05]
BingoBoingo: Without the drinking to forget, all that remains is a big meatsack full of resentments. [02:07]
mircea_popescu: well... it's complicated. [02:08]
BingoBoingo: It is [02:08]
BingoBoingo: But, returning to DC swamp food desert what do alf tastes have to look forward to? How does one cope? Does alf go to distilled water and grain alcohol diet? [02:11]
BingoBoingo: In other news, Apple's "car play" infotainment software is coming to... The 2018 Honda Goldwing (2-wheels), this is sure to be lulzy [02:13]
BingoBoingo: Ah, such classic http://trilema.com/2014/the-serious-ipo-a-moment-in-the-life-and-times-of-forum-investing/ [02:16]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-28-oct-2017#2355348 << ftr, the canonical form is yolk only, no white no milk no nothing. << ah ok [02:23]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 05:29 hanbot: <mod6> hanbot: eggwash = yoke included? << yeah, one egg whisked with splashomilk [02:23]
mod6: !!up mircea_popescu [02:24]
deedbot: mircea_popescu voiced for 30 minutes. [02:24]
lobbes: "CarPlay is an Apple standard that enables a car radio or head unit to be a display and also act as a controller for an iPhone." << oh god [02:24]
lobbes: fwiw in the short-term, I may have lobbesbot start archiving wotpastes only and host them to my personal www [02:26]
lobbes: seems like that's been the main (only?) demand so far: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729991 [02:28]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:13 mod6: and it was pretty nifty that it had archived all of the pastes. [02:28]
lobbes: if anything: redundancy. And if in x $time trinque's vision becomes realized I'll be ready to relay whatever I got [02:32]
mod6: there's also a few other things mentioned in the thread above. [02:33]
lobbes: true. pdf converter top-priority [02:34]
mod6: yeah, kinda interesting little project there. [02:34]
lobbes: hmm. I'm sure it is above my skill, but so was everything else I've done here before I did it [02:35]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730021 << archive.is is a (not esp. reliable, and easily, often, blocked by enemy) central point of failure, and to put further pressure on it is screaming lunacy [02:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:28 mircea_popescu: the principal impediment to republican logging, atm, is that nobod yucan be arsed to write a html de-fucker there is one already written, by the archive.is dood, which spits out zips. the solutions then are either a) piggyback on that, which alf has (irresponsibly) been trying to obstruct throughout, and in the laughablest of manners or else b) make own, which will without exception require making own, and RIGHT NOW, not "n [02:58]
asciilifeform: 'let's fetch all of our links via one ip' how is that alone not batshit and invitation for diddles. [02:58]
lobbes: plus, one day archive.is will be gone overnight [02:59]
asciilifeform: and author did ~not~ write 'html defucker', by all indications he has a headless browser which infects just like other graphical wwwtrons and is public toilet [03:00]
asciilifeform: lobbes: and yes, it will [03:00]
asciilifeform: and even if it stays up, author is a wotless heathen, can be relied on to, e.g., supply logs to enemy, insert boobytraps , lose or modify stored material, one day. [03:01]
asciilifeform: while the thing stays up and appears to work, it is spottily useful, like google cache et al. but to suggest to build it permanently into infrastructure is nonsense, and i can only assume mircea_popescu had a strong bottle when suggested it [03:02]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730023 << pdf decrufter is similar item to graphical-www archiver, it is turing-complete op, and requires either absolutely correct soft (e.g. adatronic 100%) or sacrificial publictoilet iron. [03:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:29 mircea_popescu: thatg aside, the more pressing problem is that we don't have a proper pdf-decrufter, (random moron with delusions of self-impoirtance failed to be useful, as you prolly recall), and if we're going to do something by hand this'd be more sorely needed than that. [03:04]
asciilifeform: fwiw i have one for publictoilet iron, it's a few line of bash, spits out result similar to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707238 [03:06]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 03:35 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html << example of one 'handmade' alternative to djvu & similar [03:06]
asciilifeform: the problem is where to host, if publicly accessible it needs potentially massive bandwidth, and if not public, is a fucking pain ( i won't be entering pw or whatever nonsense every time i want to click a link, wtf ) [03:06]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730032 << it's as reliable as the lift in a sov apt block [03:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:48 mircea_popescu: wrt to scriba's archiving : it appears to be on now, and working since yesterday (26th). it did not work in the interval 10-25 october nor in the interval 2-8 october (limits included). so it for instance included http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729704 but not http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728494 and so following. [03:09]
asciilifeform: and as specifically-diddlable as if we were all to ride one particular lift every morning. [03:10]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730047 << i sat down to write something quite similar, and then realized that i can milk a remote node for its rsa privkey via timing , lol. but fast forward to today. ffa still on track for release for end of nov. btw. [03:12]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 23:12 trinque: anybody recall directconnect? probably closer to what the thing oughta look like than say gnutella, but with a hierarchy of nodes instead of connecting to one station. [03:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730037 << am i the only 1 for whom spending btc feels moar like selling organs than spending money, tho [03:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729970 << this is an altogether dubious point. magnolia went south IN SPITE of paying customers, through operator ineptitude. [03:14]
asciilifeform: at this point i am only willing to spend it on capital goodz ( i.e. where i have pretty solid notion that it can bring back the spent coin ) [03:16]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730050 << from where comes this idea ? just because it strips js ? it'll do 0 against, e.g., an overflow in jpeg renderer [03:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 00:29 mircea_popescu: the great advantage of current archival mechanism is that it powerwashes the targets. [03:18]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730112 << gotta liquidate my earthly goods, study moar ro-fu, and yes, pile up moar fuel for 1st stage of rocket [03:23]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 06:02 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729713 << This is probably least healthy thing to be doing unless storing fuel for next "burn the ships on touching shore" move. The sorta resentments probable on returning to the big prison sound a lot like how people get lost in bottles. [03:23]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730114 << funnily, the near-only thing not expensive in usa is booze. unlike in old su, nobody drinks cologne, notice [03:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 06:03 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh, alcohol is expensive and doesn't exist. he's safe. [03:24]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730122 << asciilifeform has expensive, unreliable, and difficult solutions for everything!111 but would prefer sanity. [03:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 06:11 BingoBoingo: But, returning to DC swamp food desert what do alf tastes have to look forward to? How does one cope? Does alf go to distilled water and grain alcohol diet? [03:25]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "Booze" cheap, pure grain alcohol not quite as [03:26]
asciilifeform: for what do i need this again ? [03:27]
BingoBoingo: because US lacks edible food now [03:27]
asciilifeform: it always lacked it, lol [03:27]
lobbes: asciilifeform> am i the only 1 for whom spending btc feels moar like selling organs than spending money, tho << this is a pretty spot-on description to my experience anytime I part with my btc [03:28]
BingoBoingo: But now more acutely for you, having done Rokatu trip on sub MP budget [03:28]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is not first expedition for asciilifeform [03:29]
asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo you could live like normal person for 20bux/d here and like royalty for 50 . ( caveat : it's a natostan and usg-occupied in the east, naturally. tho you wouldn't be able to tell with naked eye. ) [03:30]
* asciilifeform bbl, off into town [03:32]
BingoBoingo: Well, there's your bsns model. Get more pets, work them sucking cock. At $5 per cock and 4 cocks per hour, solve for pets. [03:32]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [04:33]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5770.0, vol: 10356.50288917 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5747.4, vol: 33198.94476693 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5797.0, vol: 2590.63265763 | Volume-weighted last average: 5755.25662277 [04:33]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730094 << that's scandalous. [08:54]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 03:42 BingoBoingo: !!rate felipelalli -1 Absent despite acknowledging receipt of communication on Republican state of necessity [08:54]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730130 << here's what you can do : a) make lobbesbot dump all links it sees into archive.is b) have lobbesbot download and save all thusly produced archive.is .zips c) add a new function to lobbesbot whereby !Qarchive http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730124 produces a bill to the caller (something sane, say maybe 1 satoshi / mbite) and once paid, forwards him the zip encrypted to his k [08:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 06:26 lobbes: fwiw in the short-term, I may have lobbesbot start archiving wotpastes only and host them to my personal www [08:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 06:16 BingoBoingo: Ah, such classic http://trilema.com/2014/the-serious-ipo-a-moment-in-the-life-and-times-of-forum-investing/ [08:57]
mircea_popescu: ey. [08:57]
mircea_popescu: (the figure was obtained through going "well, actual storage cost is 0.3 satoshi / MB as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1730008 obviously other than storage there's also costs to dld and amortize the code, and some margin, so whatever, 1 / MB) [08:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:19 mircea_popescu: anyway, storage is about 2 fiatcents aka 300 or so satoshi per gb [08:59]
mircea_popescu: lobbes you can also collate all these, only invoice > x sum for each user. you already have the infrastructure for that from auctions anyway. [09:00]
mircea_popescu: at first some stress testing will surely be welcome but on the long term can't flood trinque with 1 satoshi bills. [09:01]
mircea_popescu: and in other ancient lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-05-18#680370 [10:18]
a111: Logged on 2014-05-18 11:04 mircea_popescu: !up ho_ [10:18]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, at banat festival, not only peasant huts, fried cheeses, sausages of 9000 types, but shooting gallery a la carnival but with... m16 [10:44]
asciilifeform: ( why not kalash? where is your pride, ro folx !1! ) [10:44]
mircea_popescu: god i hated those stupid shits. [10:47]
mircea_popescu: fucking put a carnival in the middle of the historic town, buncha retarded gypos. [10:47]
asciilifeform: edge not middle. near the zoo etc [10:50]
asciilifeform: the woodlands. [10:50]
mircea_popescu: oh oh ? [10:50]
asciilifeform: where the restored peasant huts, with oxcarts etc are [10:50]
mircea_popescu: at some point they built these temporary shits in between the opera house and the metropolitan church. [10:50]
mircea_popescu: a, that's nice. [10:50]
asciilifeform: near the mountain of executed-by-commies [10:50]
asciilifeform: also i finally found where to speak de : peasant chix at sausagery spoke [10:51]
asciilifeform: thought i'd leave without meeting 1 . [10:51]
mircea_popescu: many ppl do, german widely spoken/understood in ro banat. [10:51]
asciilifeform: is what i thought ! [10:52]
asciilifeform: but nobody in shops , etc seemed to. [10:52]
mircea_popescu: prolly immigrants from teh oltenia. [10:52]
asciilifeform: then! cheese an' sausage d00d hears pet englisching and looked genuinely sad when asciilifeform did not want to buy his whole multi-kg supply [10:54]
asciilifeform: 'but english! rich!' [10:54]
mircea_popescu: heh [10:54]
mircea_popescu: weren't you going to take a suitcase over to the tsa people anyway ? [10:55]
asciilifeform: also banatmuseum had 'typical hut of dekulakized kulak in '51' [10:55]
mircea_popescu: so they can throw out fine cheese while eating plastic shoes ? [10:55]
asciilifeform: i did take a case, they'll be stealing hats if 'lucky' [10:55]
asciilifeform: fwiw i have a 'get out of tsa 99.9%' membership [10:56]
asciilifeform: oh also was hut of 'typical ukr', 'typical serb', 'typical svabi' [10:57]
asciilifeform: these were perma-exhibits, oak, stone, mircea_popescu prolly saw already. [10:58]
mircea_popescu: aha. there's one in all major towns, also. [10:58]
asciilifeform: i can picture. [10:58]
mircea_popescu: brasov, cluj, iirc oradea also has, sighisoara, sibiu, so following [10:58]
asciilifeform: somewhat to my surprise there was, under covered rooflets, fancy furniture from 19th c, and even a 1880s ( i think) petrol engine, the 1cyl monster with flywheel [10:59]
asciilifeform: just standing there [10:59]
asciilifeform: ( iirc in english called 'hit and miss motor' ) [10:59]
asciilifeform: some distance away -- found the grain mill it once turned. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in nice boots, http://78.media.tumblr.com/3beb8d79229917781aeb926c2e7b5405/tumblr_ne9qfswgUR1u1v46io1_400.gif [11:02]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730179 << When duty calls, it calls. And the answer is not trading pleasantries and then ghosting (11 days and counting) when questions come up. [13:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 12:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730094 << that's scandalous. [13:00]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell felipelalli Sorry I missed your appearance today. Was digging sweet potatoes before we get a hard freeze tonight. [13:55]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other teeny tits, http://78.media.tumblr.com/b853b93429dbbac60998faf4aca59d2c/tumblr_nm4pa50oBE1u57hbxo1_1280.jpg [14:58]
alex__c: she cute [15:00]
alex__c: meanwhile in Timisoara, yesterday's Halloween party: https://imgur.com/a/z9P30 [15:02]
alex__c: 2 KKK guys, another with the kekistan flag lol [15:02]
mircea_popescu: ahaha wut are you dressed as ? [15:02]
alex__c: nothing really.. went for Amish when ppl asked [15:03]
mircea_popescu: aw dood totally, that last chick, that's a good idea. [15:04]
mircea_popescu: go around with fallout 1 scenes drawn on your head. [15:05]
alex__c: she won the contest, btw [15:06]
mircea_popescu: a fair cop. [15:06]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [15:15]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 492105 | Current Difficulty: 1.452839779145E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 493919 | Next Difficulty In: 1814 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 51 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [15:15]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [15:15]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5758.06, vol: 7045.82958012 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5735.9, vol: 26607.30583513 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5764.8, vol: 2155.58034599 | Volume-weighted last average: 5741.9999634 [15:15]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all --currency eur [15:22]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 4959.049067, vol: 6967.15639213 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 4960.0, vol: 3128.44682563 | Volume-weighted last average: 4959.34374412 [15:22]
BingoBoingo: In other mine chaff: " The Bond Market Is Supposed to Watch Out for Long-Term Problems. Why Isn’t It More Worried About Climate Change?" [15:44]
BingoBoingo: !!Up samO [15:56]
deedbot: samO voiced for 30 minutes. [15:56]
* asciilifeform will be floating around in bucharest for a day [17:38]
BingoBoingo: Float well [17:40]
BingoBoingo: In other researching, apparently exploding security breifcases are available commercially off the shelf [18:44]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:45]
mircea_popescu: da fuck are you researching [18:45]
BingoBoingo: What can and can not be taken on Air plane [18:46]
BingoBoingo: Gotta make plans to move disks somehow [18:47]
mircea_popescu: encrypt to key, store online, move key. [18:54]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730181 << I'll start working on getting this up and running. While I agree with alf that archive.is is a central point of failure, we nevertheless need something short-term [18:56]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-28 12:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730130 << here's what you can do : a) make lobbesbot dump all links it sees into archive.is b) have lobbesbot download and save all thusly produced archive.is .zips c) add a new function to lobbesbot whereby !Qarchive http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-28#1730124 produces a bill to the caller (something sane, say maybe 1 satoshi / mbite) and once paid, forwards him the zip encrypted to his k [18:56]
lobbes: plus, I can always plug into whatever homebrew tmsr www-to-zip functionality comes along down the road [18:57]
mircea_popescu: quite. [18:58]
mircea_popescu: besides, can always build your own "take this silicon-valey produced vomit and extract the webpage from it" later. [18:58]
mircea_popescu: lobbes and for bonus points, once it's up you can also walk the logs and process links retrospectively. [19:32]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/giancarlo-giannini-settebellezze-sessomatto/ << Trilema - Giancarlo Giannini : Settebellezze & Sessomatto [19:41]
lobbes: this is true. My only concern is my VPS's tiny storage space (~40 gb), although I did recently procure an old box that I could probably just slap a drive in to host the archives [20:05]
lobbes: like trinque estimated, probably only a drive's worth of archives to date in log's history [20:05]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> encrypt to key, store online, move key.<< Not moving live disks, moving the decoy disks [20:09]
mircea_popescu: eh, by the time you fill 10gb with 100kb zips... [20:57]
mircea_popescu: for all the difference it makes you don't even have to host them live, dump them locally whenever you feel like. [20:58]
BingoBoingo: In other news, there sure are a lot of lawyers in Brazil specializing in "Trabalhista" [22:43]
BingoBoingo: And then there's the firm where 6 of 10 Socios specialize in "Contratos de Grande Complexidade" [23:05]
BingoBoingo: And 8 Brazilian law firms specializing in foreign investment and immigration will start their workweek with a message from a gringo. [23:55]
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