Forum logs for 28 May 2018

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deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/italy-pro-eu-president-faces-impeachment-over-coalition-killing-veto/ << Qntra - Italy: Pro-EU President Faces Impeachment Over Coalition Killing Veto [09:16]
mircea_popescu: lol poor italy. first with the nazis, now with the roosevelzis... before that with charles... who's gonna rape them next ? [09:22]
BingoBoingo: Sudan? [09:23]
mircea_popescu: lol. for srs. [09:24]
mircea_popescu: ethiopia. must suck to be the smaller half of all your historical colonies. [09:25]
BingoBoingo: Still, ahead of Elizabeth's island which is being colonized by its former colonies (the dark ones) [09:25]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, today's google search terms on trilema include inter alia "coetera désiderantur" "کوس کون تنگ ایرانی " "밑가슴" "gazeteler şok" "bitcoin limbaj de programare" aaaand "fizica in viata de zi cu zi". [09:39]
mircea_popescu: not bad for AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE blog. [09:39]
diana_coman: eh, wasn't it more ro than en on a wordcount basis? [09:48]
mircea_popescu: i thought google is all about fresh content! [10:02]
deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-always-static/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL, now always static [11:23]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/protests-after-english-leader-arrested/ << Qntra - Protests After English Leader Arrested [11:25]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/draft-pizarro-isp-good-neighbor-policy-rewrite/ << Bingo Blog - Draft Pizarro ISP "Good Neighbor Policy" Rewrite [11:52]
ben_vulpes: oh i think that can go [11:55]
mod6: ben_vulpes: any thoughts re: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-27-may-2018#2443862 [12:14]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 20:04 mod6: jurov: thank's for the Q. I'm fine with liquidation. ben_vulpes, agree/disagree? [12:14]
ben_vulpes: i don't care to hang on to any forkcoins, no [12:15]
mod6: Ok, sounds good. [12:16]
mod6: jurov: You may proceed in the sale of the BCH & BTG into BTC. Thanks! [12:16]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so on re-reading http://danielpbarron.com/2018/show-me-the-light-by-all-means-but-later/ do you in the end dispute the (subsidiary) point that "darwin fish is proof that there will be and can not be any reward for either your effort or your merit in pantsuit empire, and '''proof''' one may attempt to show to the contrary is of the nature of similar '''proof''' offered by any three-card-monte conman" ? [14:14]
mircea_popescu: will not be and can not be* [14:15]
danielpbarron: our reward is in the life that is to come, in the kingdom of God [14:38]
mircea_popescu: be that as it may. [14:59]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-girl-that-had-the-world-ahead-of-her/ << Trilema - The girl that had the world ahead of her [16:10]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://ahtribune.com/in-depth/1014-homosexuality.html [16:48]
mircea_popescu: "This series of articles will argue that homosexuals, far from constituting a persecuted minority, are in fact key protagonists of the ruling class and bourgeois ideology." [16:48]
mircea_popescu: it even includes a sententious reinstatement of lysenko eventually! this is some primo leftism! [16:59]
mircea_popescu: http://www.gearoidocolmain.org/us-eu-disintegrate-time-french-renaissance/ <<< ehehehe. A FRENCH RENAISSANCE!!!! [17:03]
mircea_popescu: o god. [17:03]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/ << Bingo Blog - Learning Portage Together: Building PHP 5.6 On Arm64 RockChip Gentoo [19:38]
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/american-unrest-mitigation-1990 << CH - American unrest mitigation: 1990-???? [20:00]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, nice work there! [20:13]
lobbes: Oh hey. Ty BingoBoingo for that php5.6-on-gentoo-rockchip guide. I will try it out (paging diana_coman) [20:14]
* asciilifeform waves [20:16]
* asciilifeform eats log [20:16]
mircea_popescu: o hey, there you are. i was starting to think you got kidnapped! [20:17]
asciilifeform: naa went to meatspace for a spell [20:17]
mod6: hi asciilifeform [20:34]
asciilifeform: ohai mod6 [20:55]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly [20:58]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 18:52 spyked: with telly savalas aka kojak (which was also popular on romanian tv in the early 90s) [20:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819283 << ha, i had nfi that any of the shitforks were still chugging along [20:59]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-27 20:10 mod6: !Q calc 0.00598863 * 35.38714671 [20:59]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819298 << during the 1st lolfork, i did this for self, and for a friend, prolly time to revv up the relevant tool again ( if anybody ~really~ doesn't feel like doing his own: gpggram asciilifeform, we'll work something out ) [21:00]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 00:09 mircea_popescu: jurov, do you offer sweeping of old bitcoin addies as a service ? might be a decent way to cash some change. [21:00]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819317 << i'ma definitely try this in the coming days, ave1 [21:01]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 15:23 deedbot: http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-always-static/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL, now always static [21:01]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819336 << holyshit, BingoBoingo doing my chores for me! ty BingoBoingo ! [21:03]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 23:38 deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/28/learning-portage-together-building-php-5-6-on-arm64-rockchip-gentoo/ << Bingo Blog - Learning Portage Together: Building PHP 5.6 On Arm64 RockChip Gentoo [21:03]
* asciilifeform never tested php on arm64 with own hands, of yet, so did not hit $bug [21:03]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819330 << picture what fishing might be like... if fish could speak [21:05]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-28 20:10 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-girl-that-had-the-world-ahead-of-her/ << Trilema - The girl that had the world ahead of her [21:05]
asciilifeform: 'hook, what hook, and what frying pan? you are a peculiarly long worm' [21:05]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ideally a bot that just eats a btc address and list of privkeys. [21:07]
asciilifeform: and autointerfaces to a gox?! or how does it sell [21:07]
asciilifeform: seems like a mighty flammable mix, to trust to a robot. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, look into that nationalist-stalinist dood i fished out. now THAT is some primo extinct species. i had nfi such extreme rarities even existed, in my book the only nationalist-stalinists were stalin himself and ceausescu. not even broz tito. but lo and behold, a french-dwelling irishman! [21:08]
asciilifeform: aaactually loox like a standard limonov [21:08]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ideally interfaces with all the goxen. [21:08]
asciilifeform: what i did not know, is that english-speaking specimens of this, exist [21:09]
mircea_popescu: nah, limonov is deeply internationalist. [21:09]
asciilifeform: but ireland is prime country for these, if they do, consider e.g. valera [21:09]
mircea_popescu: you mean savenko muppet or which ? [21:09]
asciilifeform: him [21:09]
mircea_popescu: he's about as nationalist as moldbug. [21:10]
mircea_popescu: actually... he's about exactly everything moldbug. except older version = better read. [21:10]
asciilifeform: which limonov did mircea_popescu read, i now gotta ask [21:10]
asciilifeform: ( today he's a burned out old fart, afaik. but if one reads his prison lit -- yes nationalist ) [21:11]
mircea_popescu: there's also a historian limonov [21:12]
asciilifeform: 'historian' is definitely not how i'd describe eduard l. ( b. savenko ) d00d [21:14]
mircea_popescu: no no. what was it... hm. [21:17]
mircea_popescu: medieval studies, something or the other. [21:17]
mircea_popescu: this is the previous generation, 80s. [21:17]
asciilifeform: that one i have nfi about. [21:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, https://www.amazon.com/Rossii%CD%A1a%EF%B8%A1-inostrant%CD%A1s%EF%B8%A1ev-Biblioteka-Stranit%CD%A1s%EF%B8%A1y-Otechestva/dp/5289009442 << this is the fellow but not the item. [21:19]
mircea_popescu: but definitely him, leningrad school. [21:20]
mircea_popescu: the book though, was early rus [21:20]
asciilifeform: aa this is very diff fella than the one asciilifeform sometimes mentions. [21:20]
mircea_popescu: https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/180438?lookfor=author:%22Limonov,%20IU.%20A%22&offset=2&max=2 << here, this is the actual book. [21:21]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the foggiest of the foggy memories, jesus. but the mind will associate! through a fucking million lines, it will associate. [21:22]
asciilifeform: btw, the 'true' limonov's masterlulz, was actually translated to english. for aficionados strictly : https://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/1002492/Limonov_Edward_-_Its_Me_Eddie.html [21:23]
mircea_popescu: i thought it was mostly wank published by various french people ~about~ the funny friday fellow that someone imported to his salon. [21:24]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, ro also has one of these, "check out the genuine afrussican". http://trilema.com/2011/mizerabilul-vasile-ernu/ [21:25]
mircea_popescu: not all that genuine either, but what can you do. [21:25]
asciilifeform: naa ^this one is autobio, from his time in usa [21:25]
asciilifeform: where he, e.g., : 'I am on welfare. I live at your expense, you pay taxes and I don't do a fucking thing. Twice a month I go to the clean, spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and receive my checks. I consider myself to be scum, the dregs of society, I have no shame or conscience, therefore my conscience doesn't bother me and I don't plan to look for work, I want to receive your money to the end of my days. And my name is Edichka [21:25]
asciilifeform: , "Eddie-baby."' [21:25]
asciilifeform: 'You don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's precious little – $278 a month. You don't want to pay. Then why the fuck did you invite me, entice me here from Russia, along with a horde of Jews? Present your complaints to your own propaganda, it's too effective. That's what's emptying your pockets, not I.' [21:25]
mircea_popescu: eh... [21:26]
asciilifeform: 'Who was I over there? What's the difference, what would it change? I hate the past, as I always have, in the name of the present. Well, I was a poet, if you must know, a poet was I, an unofficial, underground poet. That's over forever, and now I am one of yours, I am scum, I'm the one to whom you feed shchi and rotten cheap California wine – $3.59 a gallon – and yet I scorn you. Not all of you, but many. Because you lead dull li [21:26]
asciilifeform: ves, sell yourselves into the slavery of work, because of your vulgar plaid pants, because you make money and have never seen the world. You're shit!' [21:26]
asciilifeform: enuff for the l0gz. who wants moar? go, read, weep. [21:26]
mircea_popescu: the coupla hundred bucks is a problem in the feverish imaginations of campy characters scratching at the windows of the blackface performance. [21:26]
asciilifeform: ( spoiler: d00d eventually went back to ru, had a beer hall putsch of sorts, jailed, sat, wrote buncha lulz, 1000s of pg of lulz, got out, now fringe politics d00d who walks around with swastica-hammersickle hybrid thing, sums to -- afaik -- 0 ) [21:28]
mircea_popescu: well, "poet", whatever. sorta like going around saying you're a homemaker. [21:30]
asciilifeform: he was poet like yer dog is a sculptor. [21:30]
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is that, using the human genome to implement a bird, give or take ? [21:30]
asciilifeform: the translator sweated, however : 'My girl they will snatch / From the car by the nape / And I will then watch / The men commit rape ' [21:36]
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's uniformly terrible. as it happens i just rewatched the original american psycho. [21:37]
mircea_popescu: just about the level. [21:37]
mircea_popescu: "we here in america, colony of europe, think 7th grade schooling is great accomplishment" [21:37]
asciilifeform: 'Fuck your world where there's no place for me, I thought in despair. If I can't destroy it, at least I'll die a fine death in the attempt, along with others like me. I had no concrete image of how this would come about, but from past experience I knew that he who seeks fate is always provided an opportunity I would not remain without one.' [21:38]
asciilifeform: anyway, for the entomologist. [21:38]
* asciilifeform will bbl. [21:38]
mircea_popescu: in the end the summum of concerns boils down to "whose gray-on-white business card is better". [21:40]
mod6: i remember the film. only watched it once though, probably around the time it came out. [21:43]
mod6: indeed, guy was obsessed with which shade of white his business card was, or something :D [21:44]
mircea_popescu: well, his principal problem isn't even that but rather that there isn't ~anything fucking there~. he'd like to have some sort of relationship with someone, but the problem is that he does not actually encounter anyone capable of it. [21:46]
mircea_popescu: he's literally the only one not psychotic. [21:46]
mod6: I gotta re-watch this now. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: because you know, obviously, if everyone gets to choose everything that happens to them, then necessarily there's no possibility of human interaction. hence http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998185 [21:47]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: (and obviously the choice will also be illusory, for the fundamental reason explained by qt in reservoir dogs : "if nobody knows anyone they're going to start arguing on scarce resource division ~AND NOT KNOW WHEN TO BACK DOWN~". nobody knows WHY they don't get to go to $exclusiverestaurant when they want to. nor can they know. so there's nothing to talk about.) [21:49]
mircea_popescu: but anyway, imo american psycho should be watched in tandem with naked city. perfect america sandwich. [21:50]
mod6: i've never seen 'naked city' [21:51]
* mod6 looks up [21:51]
mircea_popescu: i reviewed it recently. it's pretty great imo. [21:51]
mod6: Ah, I'll dig up your review here. [21:52]
mod6: http://trilema.com/2018/the-naked-city/ << 1949 film, got it. Cheers! [21:53]
mod6: Year my old man was born. [21:54]
mircea_popescu: a long, long, time ago... but i can still remember... [21:54]
mod6: these m00 cow stories are pretty sad, but hilarious at the same time. [22:01]
mircea_popescu: girls keep betting me they can distinguish the two apart, and then that's the last i hear on the matter. [22:03]
mod6: Yeah, last footnote there has it. [22:05]
lobbes: aha! I can confirm BingoBoingo's excellent guide works like a charm php5.6 successfully built in ol' lobbes' rockchip [23:08]
mircea_popescu: nice! [23:15]
mircea_popescu: arm php huh [23:15]
mod6: nice lobbes [23:25]
lobbes: now to get it playing nice with mysql.. [23:29]
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