Forum logs for 27 Jul 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in blackening of viands, http://68.media.tumblr.com/9d8d721ad4453425b61baff6d247f02d/tumblr_o6usqnA9B11rq93veo1_500.gif [00:03]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/trump-makes-small-cut-to-military-healthcare-spending-and-makes-jeff-sessions-great-again/ << Qntra - Trump Makes Small Cut To Military Healthcare Spending And Makes Jeff Sessions Great Again [01:43]
BingoBoingo: ^ Dos historias, un titulo [01:43]
mircea_popescu: jeff bezos and the amazington host. [01:46]
BingoBoingo: lol [01:46]
BingoBoingo: The "amazington host" sounds liek a grand way to refer to a gathering of redditards. [01:47]
mircea_popescu: just about [01:47]
mircea_popescu: a great gay way. [01:47]
BingoBoingo: A host of amazingtons blocks you path. [fuck][marry][kill with fire] [01:48]
mircea_popescu: lol [01:48]
BingoBoingo: A lesser lol for the anal's beads http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/26/senate-democrats-delay-witness-from-testifying-against-fusion-gps/ [01:51]
ben_vulpes: !!rate mimisbrunnr 1 a bot of mine [02:33]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GTYPE/?raw=true [02:33]
ben_vulpes: !!v BB907D8F4402D2CA377D7BD22CEE31DE112100F6C197A433AA9EEE7F7D88669F [02:34]
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated mimisbrunnr 1 << a bot of mine [02:34]
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-6-12#127336 << done [02:39]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-06-12 18:05 phf: ben_vulpes: could you possibly add timestamp (hh:mm:ss, say) to your div.line's. maybe as data-ts="..." or perhaps as a div.nick title? [02:39]
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-7-26#171249 << done [02:39]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-07-26 17:25 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: imho the scheme currently in use by phf is The Right Thing [02:39]
ben_vulpes: even preserved what little backwards compatibility needed preserving with some feeelthy htmlz [02:40]
ben_vulpes: and ty mircea_popescu for kicking my ass to do it [02:40]
ben_vulpes: obvs works in #eulora, #trilema-mod6 etc [02:41]
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-26-jan-2017#2233596 passed. [08:37]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 19:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from same circus, u.s. senate is proposing to ban mr.t from revering obummer's 'ru sanctions and They Stole Election' decrees [08:37]
asciilifeform: ( the veto-overriding ritual is still upcoming iirc ) [08:45]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/bitcoin-network-mining-difficulty-continues-climb-up-6-92-percent-to-new-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Mining Difficulty Continues Climb, Up ~6.92 Percent To New All Time High [08:52]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-RDRAND-CVE [09:38]
asciilifeform: 'RDRAND/RDSEED instructions for pulling random number generators on modern CPUs may have not been as random as desired when using GCC. ' [09:38]
asciilifeform: 'The issue was fixed in GCC back in March but only disclosed today on the oss-sec list as CVE-2017-11671. ' [09:39]
asciilifeform: 'responsible disclosure' shitsackery. [09:39]
mod6: howdy! [11:10]
mircea_popescu: heya [11:12]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690261 << took very little kicking. [11:31]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 06:40 ben_vulpes: and ty mircea_popescu for kicking my ass to do it [11:31]
mircea_popescu: hardly worth teh mention. [11:31]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690265 << lame duck senate. it'll last for six months. trump is 4evah. [11:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 12:45 asciilifeform: ( the veto-overriding ritual is still upcoming iirc ) [11:32]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690270 << heh. [11:33]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 13:39 asciilifeform: 'responsible disclosure' shitsackery. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: "Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua mare, qua terrae, qua sidus currit utrumque nec satiatus erat. Gravidis freta pulsa carinis iam peragebantur si quis sinus abditus ultra, si qua foret tellus, quae fuluum mitteret aurum, hostis erat, fatisque in tristia bella paratis quaerebantur opes." [13:05]
asciilifeform: where didja find an unbitrotted ocr of that [13:08]
mircea_popescu: mah own files. [13:08]
asciilifeform: chix handkeyed didntthey. [13:08]
asciilifeform: neat. [13:08]
mircea_popescu: perhaps :D [13:08]
asciilifeform: 1337w4r3z. [13:09]
mircea_popescu: hm. [13:09]
mircea_popescu: !~google "Orbem iam totum victor" [13:10]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: '' Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua' collaborative text ...: <http://nodictionaries.com/text-word-note/3569387-orbem-iam-totum-uictor-romanus-habebat-qua> Satyricon Satyricon Index (Latin) (Latin) - Sacred Texts: <http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/petro/satyrlat/index.htm> [13:10]
mircea_popescu: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/petronius1.html << there, apparently it exists online as well. saves me the trouble to publish it. [13:11]
* mircea_popescu hasn't in much depth checked, but the quoted part at least is correct. [13:11]
asciilifeform: oh neat [13:15]
mircea_popescu: "hey, pudet effari perituraque prodere fata, persarum ritu male pubescentibus annis". [13:15]
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent : fata denotes fate in that text, and male evil. but at the time c. petronius wrote he was doubltess fully aware of the vulgar latin tendency towards what yielded romanian fata (girl), even if very unlikely unaware of the eventual meaning of "male". yet, we can read a vernacular relation there between male/female doubling agency/fate on the distal plane. THIS is what literary genius is all about, ulterior me [13:18]
mircea_popescu: aning.) [13:18]
mircea_popescu: (and yes, latin philosophy of the time was 60% by mass "women, unbridled, will doom the republic". hence ~porcius~ cato for instance.) [13:21]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in sunny monkeystan, http://archive.is/AxHUh : 'Russian National And Bitcoin Exchange Charged In 21-Count Indictment For Operating Alleged International Money Laundering Scheme And Allegedly Laundering Funds From Hack Of Mt. Gox' [13:33]
asciilifeform: 'Homeland Security Investigations is strongly committed to tracking down criminals who seek to strike at the foundations of global financial security through complex money laundering schemes' didjaknow. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: hurr. [13:36]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690280 [13:36]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 17:05 mircea_popescu: "Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua mare, qua terrae, qua sidus currit utrumque nec satiatus erat. Gravidis freta pulsa carinis iam peragebantur si quis sinus abditus ultra, si qua foret tellus, quae fuluum mitteret aurum, hostis erat, fatisque in tristia bella paratis quaerebantur opes." [13:36]
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, are the ru folx actually dumb enough to regularly visit natostans ( greece in above, spain earlier ) or dragged there 1st and parallelconstructed. [13:38]
mircea_popescu: pretty sure this guy lived in the eastern mediterranean. [13:38]
asciilifeform: as good as usa. [13:38]
mircea_popescu: nah, nice climate, pleasant women. [13:38]
asciilifeform: for gassing, i mean. [13:39]
mircea_popescu: eh, unless you're willing to shoot usg agents on shight / impale the captured etc, ~everywhere is same. [13:40]
asciilifeform: not quite everywhere. afaik 0 successful usg kidnappings in ru to date. [13:40]
mircea_popescu: you specifically care which idiot is involved ? [13:42]
asciilifeform: in this case yes [13:42]
mircea_popescu: why ? [13:42]
asciilifeform: d00d would be a free man if he sat in moscow. [13:42]
mircea_popescu: when exactly did russian citizens in russia become free men ? [13:42]
asciilifeform: 1991 or so [13:43]
mircea_popescu: i musta missed this point. esp given the novel discovery that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690227 [13:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 02:58 asciilifeform: and ditto of ru mob et al. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought the ru mob had 0 cultural value. [13:43]
asciilifeform: 0 from my telescope [13:43]
asciilifeform: but specifically to subj d00d , plenty value. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: your telescope runs on virtual basic it'd seem. [13:43]
asciilifeform: wassat [13:44]
mircea_popescu: did you not say the 1990s never happened ? [13:44]
asciilifeform: waiwat [13:44]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690227 << [13:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 02:58 asciilifeform: and ditto of ru mob et al. [13:44]
asciilifeform: what's the cultural value of a fire ? [13:45]
asciilifeform: i can see the argument 'some things needed burnin' [13:45]
mircea_popescu: nevermind the fire. the cultural value of "d00d would be a free man if he sat in moscow." is ~1. [13:45]
mircea_popescu: if that's not the entirety of culture, then it's not missing much. [13:45]
asciilifeform: supposing it is so. ( it is far from my africa, and can't say for sure. perhaps phf will comment. ) [13:46]
mircea_popescu: well, you'll have to pick one which you believe, and stick to it. [13:46]
asciilifeform: i see where mircea_popescu was going tho. [13:46]
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may, for the brief interlude in question. there's no substantial difference today. [13:47]
asciilifeform: i do know that ~0 'hacking' prosecutions in ru. [13:47]
asciilifeform: and 0 extraditions to anywhere, for whatever reason. [13:47]
mircea_popescu: lol really ? [13:47]
asciilifeform: nao maybe they feed'em into woodchippers locally, and quietly, i have nfi. [13:47]
asciilifeform: but 0 usg-style preet process. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: lol. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: i thought you read russian ? [13:48]
asciilifeform: have counterexample? [13:48]
asciilifeform: i dun read every single local rag of every nowhere district in all of ru. so conceivable that i missed one. [13:49]
mircea_popescu: so what is teh isc ? [13:49]
mircea_popescu: who was sergei mikhailov ? [13:50]
mircea_popescu: moreover, what did the preet do before being canned, quite a la yezhov ? [13:51]
asciilifeform: what about mihailov [13:51]
mircea_popescu: exact preet. spent a while "prosecuting" "cybercrime", then got prosecuted in turn. [13:51]
asciilifeform: thinking of the kaspersky betrayal case ? [13:52]
asciilifeform: that ain't a 'hacking trial [13:52]
mircea_popescu: not what was said. [13:52]
asciilifeform: expand then plox [13:53]
mircea_popescu: your claim was "0 usg-style preet process", to which i showed 100% preet process : 1. that indeed there was a preet and that indeed he was preet'ed. [13:53]
asciilifeform: preet prosecuted free men for doing free man things. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: it's your job to now convince me the "centre for information securityt" of the fsb prosecuted no "hacker" at any point during its decade long tenure. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: rigth. [13:54]
asciilifeform: i dun have the desired exhaustive proof of absence. [13:57]
mircea_popescu: not a matter of proof of absence the structure is there quite plainly. if you can be bothered to dig you'll find the rest. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: the notion that somehow russia is a free country dun stand, or else you know, we'd just move there. [13:58]
asciilifeform: all i got is the observation that no ransomware writer who targets anglotards seems to feel in the slightest bit of danger in ru. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: good for them... [13:58]
asciilifeform: 'free country' may be contradiction in terms. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: by this measure, neither do they "seem to feel" in danger in north korea. [13:58]
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that northkr has not attempted cultivating reputation as tmsr-friendly [13:59]
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, whether someone is publicly shitting hsi pants every change he gets (aka, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690153 ) versus the other categorical alternative, "doesn't seem to feel in the slightest bit in danger" would rather predict us citizenship than anything else. [13:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 02:19 mircea_popescu: the fatal weakness, those folks just wanted to get along. [13:59]
mircea_popescu: ameritards pants are always freshly shat. everyone else's - not. [14:00]
mircea_popescu: bout as far as that goes. [14:00]
asciilifeform: dunno, afaik opposite, every d00d arrested in usa for anything, from pickpocket to seller of nsa key, seems very surprised [14:00]
* trinque snarfed an archive of www.thelatinlibrary.com a while back [14:21]
mircea_popescu: good idea. [15:22]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690293 << apparently the best english version of this is a r allinson's "I blush to speak, I tremble to recite our Persian manners and our curse of Fate!". [15:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 17:15 mircea_popescu: "hey, pudet effari perituraque prodere fata, persarum ritu male pubescentibus annis". [15:55]
mircea_popescu: it's not very good. [15:55]
mircea_popescu: I blush to tell, I tremble to recite our Persian childhood and its fated plight! or something at the very least. the cogent points is that one tempts the fates at his peril with a recount of how changing the republic for a satrapy contained in itself its future blessings such as they were. [15:56]
phf: "Like you, I also wanted to study the TeX code. After all, it was written by an eminent computer scientist, and, for a large piece of software, it is remarkably free of bugs. It looked like something significant could be learned. But, I gave up after a while. Mostly because the code is full of clever tricks to pack data into memory locations to save space. This made sense 30 years ago, but not so much today, and it makes the code very difficult to read [16:27]
phf: (for me, anyway). There is a system called JavaTex, by Tim Murphy, which might be a bit easier to read, maybe. But I ran out of time. – bubba" [16:27]
mircea_popescu: wait, knuth literate-programmed all his way into pointer magic etc ? [16:30]
phf: i suspect it's more about the choice of data structures. for one there are no allocs (very much in the spirit of ascii's ada explorations), so he probably has a lot of mempools, some byte compression and possibly bit twiddling. i've not read the second book yet, because i still haven't compiled the damn thing outside of the reservation [16:37]
phf: "This TEX implementation conforms to the rules of the Pascal User Manual published by Jensen and Wirth in 1975, except where system-dependent code is necessary to make a useful system program, and except in another respect where such conformity would unnecessarily obscure the meaning and clutter up the code" [16:38]
asciilifeform: phf: ftr i'm going for the exact opposite of this liquishit. [16:44]
phf: what liquishit? [16:45]
asciilifeform: bit twiddles to save 1 byte here and there etc [16:45]
phf: i don't know if that's the case, that's just my guess. but you are doing fixed size allocations though, and we had threads about it [16:45]
phf: who knows what "bubba" actually means [16:45]
asciilifeform: all sane programs do fixed allocation. [16:47]
phf: fwiw the dynamic around tex is fascinating. here's very much a literate artifact of high discipline. every piece is a carefully documented literate program, custom tooling that enforces the conventions, "I have also spent thousands of hours trying to ensure that the systems produce essentially identical results on all computers. I strongly believe that an unchanging system has great value, even though it is axiomatic that any complex system can be impr [16:53]
phf: oved." etc. etc. last tex release (apart from bug fixes) is version 3 in 1990. you'd think(c)(r), but the reality is that layers and layers of cancer are grown on top of it, and when there's a discussion it is in terms of original values, but when it comes to details its "use this lua pdf unicode thing which comes as part of a 5GB package" [16:53]
phf: i can envision a future where some TMSR SYSTEM package weights at 100GB but at its core is "p.vpatch" that is used exclusively through "vada2rust" translation system [16:55]
mircea_popescu: phf i wasn't aware he ever did bit twiddles. my sparse reading of bits and pieces never showed me any. [17:10]
mircea_popescu: it is, for the record, NOT axiomatic, or even true, that any large system can be improved. [17:13]
mircea_popescu: all systems designed through inductive means can always be improved -- through the removal of the inductive parts and their replacement with deductive equivalents. that's all. [17:14]
asciilifeform: phf: i can also imagine future where cannibals wear my stuffed skin, what of it [17:20]
mircea_popescu: moreover, i can envisage a future where the clean html of the republic is viewed through "browser2iphonekek" as javascript-whatever. [17:21]
mircea_popescu: that future is now, and just as soon as i fuck one i'll care. [17:21]
* mircea_popescu avvers that had he run into remarkable crapola re knuth he'd have thrown a louder than usual and as public as usual hissy fit. [17:24]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/again-with-the-money-laundering-bullshit/ << Trilema - Again with the "money laundering" bullshit. [17:27]
asciilifeform: trilema down?! [17:34]
asciilifeform: nm worx [17:34]
shinohai: worx for me [17:34]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's an avvers [17:34]
mircea_popescu: an aver with a sticky v. [17:35]
asciilifeform: lolk [17:35]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile art teh beach, http://68.media.tumblr.com/e91d24998750471eb2d25bb34ea4c619/tumblr_oamax69J9W1u4jyyvo1_1280.jpg [17:36]
mircea_popescu: !!up palatine [17:36]
deedbot: palatine voiced for 30 minutes. [17:36]
palatine: hello [17:37]
mircea_popescu: hi. [17:37]
palatine: feels strange talking to you after all reading i did, sorta speaking with a character out of a book [17:38]
mircea_popescu: ha! [17:38]
mircea_popescu: what've you been reading then ? [17:39]
palatine: trilema and a bit of the logs [17:39]
mircea_popescu: cool. [17:40]
palatine: beginning to figure it out, almost ) [17:40]
mircea_popescu: alrighty then [17:41]
palatine: not being a tech person i have some trouble with the WoT thing [17:41]
mircea_popescu: what person are you ? [17:41]
palatine: i knew a hard question was on my way [17:41]
mircea_popescu: lol but i mean, "i'm not a tech person because i am an ? person" ? [17:42]
palatine: i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general [17:43]
mircea_popescu: ah. i suppose to keep to terminology, "i'm a scholar person". [17:43]
palatine: agreed then [17:44]
* mircea_popescu is not much of a tech person either. [17:44]
palatine: yes, surprised me bit when i found out [17:45]
mircea_popescu: anyway, as a lawyer you absoluitely wish to bake pgp into every aspect of your practice. don't have any customer email you plaintext. [17:46]
mircea_popescu: that way you get actual, as opposed to theoretical, attorney-client priviledge. [17:46]
palatine: yes, that would be fine even if a somewhat hard on the practical level [17:47]
palatine: people being totally non tech people either [17:47]
mircea_popescu: well, people are also totally non-legal minds either, kinda why they come to you. [17:48]
mircea_popescu: at least in my experience, 60% or so of independent practice lawyer's work is educating people in his office. sort-of private schooling. [17:49]
mircea_popescu: or do you work in a corp law dept ? [17:49]
palatine: nope [17:49]
palatine: your remark is spot on, by the way [17:50]
mircea_popescu: :p [17:50]
palatine: fact is, the place i live the law is a joke [17:51]
palatine: not sure you can call it law practice anymore [17:51]
mircea_popescu: do you practice italian law ? [17:52]
palatine: yes [17:52]
mircea_popescu: hasn't been too serious for a long while now huh. [17:53]
palatine: yes [17:53]
palatine: crumbling at an faster pace lately anyhow [17:53]
mircea_popescu: well if it makes you feel any better, the us is rapidly catching up. [17:53]
palatine: haha [17:54]
palatine: i'm very happy to have found out this place [17:54]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [17:54]
palatine: i got a question for you, if you don't mind answering, did you plan trilema as a literary opus by the very start or sorta did it grew out on its own way? [17:56]
mircea_popescu: yes. [17:56]
palatine: which one? [17:57]
mircea_popescu: :) [17:57]
palatine: lol [17:57]
mircea_popescu: both. the distinction only exists in a certain (and false) view of teh world. otherwise, to plan it as a literary opus correctly IS for it to grow on its own wya. [17:57]
palatine: true [17:58]
mircea_popescu: generally "to plan" is used as a view towards results. this utterly is not what planning is. planning is all about the construction of processes. [17:58]
mircea_popescu: but hey, kids go to school, where http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679600 reigns rampant. [17:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 15:09 mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did. [17:59]
mircea_popescu: so the confusion is born. [17:59]
palatine: gotta take my time with this one [18:00]
mircea_popescu: can you read the romanian parts of trilema btw ? [18:01]
palatine: nope, i nicknamed it the "romanian wall" [18:01]
mircea_popescu: italian is somewhat mutually inteligible with romanian. but i suppose it also depends what exactly. [18:03]
palatine: yes, but the meaning is subtle and missing too many words make it a mess [18:05]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [18:06]
mircea_popescu: !!up palatine [18:07]
deedbot: palatine voiced for 30 minutes. [18:07]
palatine: how was that you picked the Serenissima? [18:08]
mircea_popescu: well, commercial republic. say, http://btcbase.org/log/2013-08-19#241422 [18:10]
a111: Logged on 2013-08-19 13:24 mircea_popescu: it was the same in 1600s low countries, and in 1100s serene republic. [18:10]
mircea_popescu: what'd you have picked ? [18:10]
palatine: nothing else [18:11]
palatine: it's amazing because when i walk the streets here the San Marco lion is everywhere [18:12]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-14#444413 << also. teh oldest references, as it'd appear. [18:12]
a111: Logged on 2014-01-14 10:51 mircea_popescu: and also my country, teh most serene republic of bitcoin. [18:12]
mircea_popescu: palatine iirc some greek church also uses it. [18:12]
palatine: have to check this out [18:14]
mircea_popescu: see, cause originally, when the venetics were little more than an orcish tribe, they wanted to matter in th world. so they went and stole st marcus remains from alexandria. [18:14]
palatine: i read a bit on the origins of the republic, i found striking similarities with our current situation [18:16]
mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes. [18:16]
palatine: little non-easily reacheable and defendable islands are like bitcoin [18:18]
mircea_popescu: !!up enzio [18:30]
deedbot: enzio voiced for 30 minutes. [18:30]
palatine: first time panic, totally understand ) [18:31]
mircea_popescu: and in other shy to show face beauties, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c31bb64a67ec4619ef27018e4e7490bd/tumblr_obcnzxyJkW1voo3cao1_1280.jpg [19:21]
shinohai: "In case of emergency. wrap arms firmly around whore and use as a flotation device" [19:23]
mircea_popescu: also in case of submergency. [20:05]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690392 << fear mongering for rhetoric purposes, but my point is the same one as was made by the situationists: you can build negation into your tooling all you want, but if need be the maggots will find a way. [20:16]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 21:20 asciilifeform: phf: i can also imagine future where cannibals wear my stuffed skin, what of it [20:16]
phf: fwiw, i'm just tryin' ta get a way to publish an occasional document i was under an impression that TeX is a no brainer, it's supposedly inherently tmsr friendly. apparently not, and not only that, the whole stack, since before i was even doing computing was already llvm-like. layers upon layers of "autotools" [20:19]
phf: (this started because i couldn't find a printed version of julius evola's "ride the tiger" in russian translation. i found a pirated version, that i figured i can just print through lulu. i still haven't produced a pdf version that doesn't rely on the whole 6gb tex distribution) [20:23]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "kitchen appliance" really should be a standard body type. [20:24]
mircea_popescu: athletic, astenic, fridge. [20:25]
mircea_popescu: phf i have long searched for said way. trilema is what i came up with. [20:25]
mircea_popescu: in fairness though, it perhaps contains more "moderate your expectations" than actual solutions, by mass. [20:26]
mircea_popescu: also re the "maggots will find a way", the tmsr point is subtler than that : a) yes they will but b) let it be the intake manifold and c) make sure the machine corrupts them into humanity. [20:27]
mircea_popescu: this is teh current ideal. [20:27]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also in case of submergency. << haha [20:33]
mircea_popescu: in other shockers, " My name is Stephanie. I graduated college with an associates degree in baking and pastry arts." [20:35]
mircea_popescu: tru story. [20:35]
mod6: :D [20:35]
phf: still more useful than sociology [20:35]
mircea_popescu: at least in the sense that more obviously wrong. [20:35]
mircea_popescu: phf you realise, one could perhaps turn pastry making into a degree. BUT i guarantee that's not what they did. [20:36]
mircea_popescu: bitch prolly knows "what the good brands are". [20:36]
phf: i thought that's when they learn how to make this sort of stuff by hand https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/99/3a/bc993a14c5bfc84a3e7fdb40ec6ae37f--pastry-art-pastry-chef.jpg [20:38]
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry ? [20:40]
mircea_popescu: souffle is a 4 week course if you're nuts. wtf are those, cupcakes ? out of pre-mixed batter ? [20:41]
phf: i just can't share in this sentiment. girl can probably make herself useful by making pretty looking edibles for cupcake stores and weddings. i think that's more useful than sociology [20:46]
mircea_popescu: you're considering things in isolation. sociology major has significantly different expense expectations. [20:49]
phf: i agree that packaging (and the attempted status implication) is distasteful. but electric engineering etc. associate wouldn't be much different. a handful of specialist classes of varied quality mixed with utterly useless "general education" stuff [20:49]
mircea_popescu: phf and a clear if intentionally obfuscated sentiment of own inferiority. [20:50]
phf: НОВАЯ ИДЕЯ ОГОРАШИВАЕТ ЧЕЛОВЕКА, К НЕЙ НЕ ПОДГОТОВЛЕННОГО. I ПИСАТЕЛЬ: Я писатель! ЧИТАТЕЛЬ: А по-моему, ты говно! (Писатель стоит несколько минут, потрясенный этой новой идеей и падает замертво. Его выносят.) etc. [21:29]
asciilifeform: lol!! [21:29]
mircea_popescu: lol [21:30]
mircea_popescu: "I'm a grad student who will be going to grad school to become an occupational therapist." [21:40]
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deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B90977FA5E6CCC083B075BF6BF4F13868101AD6B5C244CFAB7A206E13E2A8C03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1782...9073 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '219.99.160.143 (ssh-rsa key from 219.99.160.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (db.doshishanet.fsi.ne.jp. JP) [22:00]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B90977FA5E6CCC083B075BF6BF4F13868101AD6B5C244CFAB7A206E13E2A8C03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1410...8397 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '219.99.160.143 (ssh-rsa key from 219.99.160.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (db.doshishanet.fsi.ne.jp. JP) [22:00]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1BCB2254F83DB9C90B449C3A06BB487653BE799DCFB81BA606613D05BC1A81E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1743...3083 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '141.217.207.151 (ssh-rsa key from 141.217.207.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown US MI) [22:10]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1BCB2254F83DB9C90B449C3A06BB487653BE799DCFB81BA606613D05BC1A81E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1626...6459 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '141.217.207.151 (ssh-rsa key from 141.217.207.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown US MI) [22:10]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-28#1690484 << when in 80s volga germans were expelled from their spiffy and self-sufficient freeholds in kazahstan, the shitmonkey locals promptly removed the roofs (kindling!) set up yurts (houses are for sheep!) and shat everywhere (toilet is for sheep watering bowl) [22:11]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-28 00:16 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690392 << fear mongering for rhetoric purposes, but my point is the same one as was made by the situationists: you can build negation into your tooling all you want, but if need be the maggots will find a way. [22:11]
asciilifeform: observe that this was not the fault of how the germans built their roofs. [22:12]
asciilifeform: i hear that in 'post-colonial' africa, same scenario played, again and again [22:13]
asciilifeform: concert piano as kindling etc [22:13]
asciilifeform: this applies to niggers of all colours, piano they had nothing to do with the making of, is quite the same as a tree in the forest [22:14]
asciilifeform: ( but also carries inside a reminder of their betters, and thereby actively 'musts die' ) [22:15]
asciilifeform: back to the tools: the 'sword that fights by itself' is a ~mythological~ item. [22:17]
asciilifeform: it dun exist. tool gotta be wielded. so to picture 'tools of tmsr' in the hands of maggots, presupposes defeat. [22:18]
asciilifeform: ftr, unlike albert speer and his 'ruins theory' - i dun participated care what happens 'after defeat' [22:18]
asciilifeform: grrrrr [22:19]
asciilifeform: *particularly [22:19]
* asciilifeform throws craplet against the wall [22:19]
BingoBoingo: Did that fix it? [23:08]
BingoBoingo: RIPBSD https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=150109829003860 [23:12]
BingoBoingo: Log message: [23:12]
BingoBoingo: switch the default compiler on amd64 and i386 to clang, [23:12]
BingoBoingo: but keep gcc4 in the build for these as well [23:12]
BingoBoingo: ok deraadt@ [23:12]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8434 << Lafond does the God King Vlad [23:16]
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