Forum logs for 25 Nov 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
BingoBoingo: And shit's gone to a "technical tie." Either this is news derps trying to goose their ratings or the Left is trying to steal the election. [00:28]
BingoBoingo: Or they want to raise the herpity derp hopes enough to maybe push them into burning shit down. [00:30]
BingoBoingo: 89.6 of the votes counted 30,000 vote difference favoring Luis. May be the case the right ends up rioting and burning shit down. [01:04]
mircea_popescu: ha, ever been in a riot ? [01:08]
BingoBoingo: Not yet [01:10]
BingoBoingo: I've been near, but not inside. [01:11]
BingoBoingo: From what I understand of riots, the side with horses tends to have an advantage provided they understand the how cavalry works [01:12]
BingoBoingo: In an update to last night's mess, apparently the kids in addition to the Navy bus busted up a bunch of street parked cars a couple blocks from me. [01:12]
BingoBoingo: 92.5% of circuits reporting just under 32,000 vote advantage to Luis over fat forehead. Balancing that are 125,876 blank, annuled, or observed votes which have been discarded per anti-vote buying rules. [01:15]
BingoBoingo: And the fat forehead candidate refused to concede http://qntra.net/2019/11/uruguays-electoral-court-waiting-until-next-friday-to-certify-presidental-ballot-results-after-apparent-luis-lacalle-pou-victory/ [02:52]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/11/uruguays-electoral-court-waiting-until-next-friday-to-certify-presidental-ballot-results-after-apparent-luis-lacalle-pou-victory/ << Qntra -- Uruguay's Electoral Court Waiting Until Next Friday To Certify Presidental Ballot Results After Apparent Luis Lacalle Pou Victory [02:54]
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951621 << k, I've got this working now. [06:05]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-20 12:07:50 mircea_popescu: could you replace all instances of 4byte utf with [Xi] plox ? [06:05]
lobbes: I've only a few trivial cosmetic changes to make at this point (e.g. I'm going to add those [http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-12-jan-2012/#comment-132433][reference links on the timestamps), as well as the line echo [06:05]
lobbes: I've also got the Malaysia server provisioned as of this time. I've ssh-ed into the box, but that is about it. I will get the remainder of the LAMP stack installed tomorrow methinks. [06:05]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-21 00:48:03 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-15#1951273 << just to address this, I'm in the process of provisioning a rented server in Malaysia. Some company called Shinjiru. I will keep you updated on this [06:05]
* lobbes did indeed have to do the whole 'account' thing, but will ride that horse [06:09]
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-24#1953347 <-- huh, looks like it survived the deluge indeed :D [08:31]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-24 12:44:27 mircea_popescu: aand congrats spyked on the feedbot not falling down [08:31]
spyked: in sadder news, less than a month after being mentioned here, kolector.ro is gone [08:32]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 17:46:05 mircea_popescu: hey spyked check this stuff out! http://kolector.ro/2014/12/16/marturia-unei-corespondente-necenzurate-despre-teroarea-regimului-dej/ [08:32]
diana_coman: as I was going yesterday through my blog's archives, ~all of the links to .ro are dead life on the internets is short apparently. [09:21]
spyked: ah. at some point the ro tld provider changed the pricing model from indefinite to yearly subscription-based. so I suspect many abandoned sites went offline when their domains expired. [11:35]
diana_coman: ah, that would be very likely not like they weren't dead, but essentially got swept up too. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953399 << yay. [12:45]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 02:09:06 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951621 << k, I've got this working now. [12:45]
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-20 12:07:50 mircea_popescu: could you replace all instances of 4byte utf with [Xii] plox ? [12:45]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953401 << beheheautiful! [12:46]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 02:09:09 lobbes: I've only a few trivial cosmetic changes to make at this point (e.g. I'm going to add those [http://trilema.com/2019/forum-logs-for-12-jan-2012/#comment-132433][reference links on the timestamps), as well as the line echo [12:46]
mircea_popescu: now in sadder news : the problem i have here is that i am traveling. i very carefully introduced stationary windows to be able to look after affairs, but we're just about four weeks into the current one, which is thereby drawing to a close. [12:52]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-31 17:30:40 mp_en_viaje: well... hm. what i mean is, i'm back at eurocastle mp, rather than on the road. [12:52]
mircea_popescu: i shall be leaving for istanbul / isfahan / lebanon / cairo / tipoli / tunis etc (unless i decide to go luxor and so on from there) in another week or two. i wanted, like a sane fucking person, to have things arranged and in working order by then, and indeed -- removing logging from the inept if stupid hands of "the community" looks like it'll be done, as per above. removing coding from the inept if stupid hands of the [12:54]
mircea_popescu: community same [12:54]
ossabot: (eulora) 2019-11-24 mircea_popescu: aite, this is good then. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: what's left is the one remainder in the hands of this yet-another ex-republic (ex, through its failure, conscious even if disavowed, an' in any case vehehehery carefully constructed out of vehehehehery carefully curated [http://trilema.com/2 [13:00]
mircea_popescu: 009/exceptionalismul-feminin/][cuntheadedness]) : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 [13:00]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29 mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo. [13:00]
mircea_popescu: seems to me today november the 25th we've not moved inch one away from nov 12th, though it's been two weeks. i don't expect anything substantially different will occur in the remaining two, so i'll just conclude that for whatever reason trinque's not the man for this job. [13:02]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 06:52:21 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950564 << my only take-away is that trinque does not want to own the tmsr os. whether this is because ye olde manaloning & etc silly habits of boihood are just that hard to break, or for whatever reason. i can't quite discern, seeing how he talks little and mostly besides the point. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: so i guess... let's try promoting from the ranks, what could it possibly hurt. [13:02]
mircea_popescu: yo dorion , you wanna head the tmsr-os project for us ? [13:03]
diana_coman: just in case he had found things moving too slowly around here, lolz. [13:05]
mircea_popescu: you know ? [13:05]
mircea_popescu: time fucking flies, dude, what the fuck can i say. it's been a month! how long am i gonna sit in this warehouse. [13:06]
mircea_popescu: i get it, the internet's best-in-the-world, whatever. i've done all the film watching an' vidya i can stomach. [13:07]
mircea_popescu: if i have to look at one more "mamaliga cu brinza" nominally, except the brinza is genuine grana padano and the trims are foie gras de canard, beluga roe, anchovies an' pickled green olives my liver's just gonna fall the fuck over. [13:09]
diana_coman: they are atm under some pressure to finish a working version of a wallet too but I'd say that is currently at a more tech stage really so the os-planning could start anyway. [13:09]
diana_coman: ahahah, make it bulz! [13:09]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, let the guy say his piece, it's how it goes. [13:10]
diana_coman: that for sure. [13:10]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, lmao, the mythical being of gijbig would say that, "now just put it all in a pot and bring me a big spoon!" [13:10]
diana_coman: come to think of it, moving east doesn't sound all that much healthier - less fat and more sugar or what, lolz. [13:12]
mircea_popescu: but at least you [13:13]
mircea_popescu: re moving. [13:13]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i really can't complain, the weather here's a very solid late march, though it be almost december. sunny warm and pretty. [13:16]
mircea_popescu: actually, i guess ima take the bitchez out for a walk. bbl. [13:16]
diana_coman: in the warehouse? :)) [13:16]
diana_coman: enjoy. [13:16]
mircea_popescu: it was a metaphor! [13:16]
diana_coman: a meta-pa&ptCrhuR [13:20]
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/11/a-little-bit-of-tinyscheme-a-lot-of-cozonac/ << The Whet -- A Little Bit of TinyScheme, a Lot of Cozonac [14:36]
mircea_popescu: now that was a pleasant walk! [14:49]
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953427 << I will say, the big advantage this seems to have is diana_coman's pages are getting schooled on communication and organization. If the trend continues and this works out, could be a great demonstration on how to bootstrap people in addition to delivering an OS. [16:46]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 09:06:23 mircea_popescu: so i guess... let's try promoting from the ranks, what could it possibly hurt. [16:46]
mircea_popescu: insallah [17:28]
BingoBoingo: I imagine you'll be hearing plenty of that in the coming weeks [17:29]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:37]
diana_coman: !!up dorion_road [18:26]
deedbot: dorion_road voiced for 30 minutes. [18:26]
dorion_road: ty diana_coman. [18:27]
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953428 << my initial bias is to say, yes I want it. Before I take the claim though, I have to better understand what the responsibility of heading the project means. [18:28]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 09:06:41 mircea_popescu: yo dorion , you wanna head the tmsr-os project for us ? [18:28]
dorion_road: I don't dispute the noteed [junior management status, but am keen to demonstrate the bootstrapping people process, as BB puts it. [18:29]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-16 05:57:13 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-16#1951449 - with very junior management though. [18:29]
diana_coman: nothing better for learning than needing to do it, too. [18:31]
dorion_road: diana_coman right. [18:32]
dorion_road: I'm thinking best ot verify my understanding through conversation here, then write an article by the end of the week to solidify the priorities and goals. [18:35]
dorion_road: My first thoughts about apporaching the position are : 1) clarify the scope 2) clarify the priorities 3) assign people to execute the priorities 4) establish and maintain estimated timeline and stages of delivery [18:37]
diana_coman: dorion_road: I'm sure there will be no problem to discuss those as soon as mircea_popescu gets back to his terminal too. [18:38]
dorion_road: 5) clarify infrastructure and processes for code and documentation distribution 6) write a plan and execute raising the quality and growing the quantity of people to get into the WoT and participate/contribute to tmsr(-os). [18:39]
dorion_road: diana_coman thanks , getting them in async while I have the voice :) [18:40]
diana_coman: sure. [18:40]
* dorion_road has a meeting at 21:30 UTC , will keep an eye out until then and check back later this evening. [18:44]
jfw: To update on http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950766 , I would be more comfortable with 10 hours a week, at least if it's an "intangibles and goodwill" sort of deal. dorion_road was in accord if I recall. And as discussed with spyked, the limited time could provide a good pressure to keep it productive. [20:00]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 17:49:00 jfw: my schedule seems pretty packed at least through the end of 2019, perhaps at that point I could make something like 20 hours per week, will have to consider [20:00]
jfw: (ref) [20:04]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 05:52:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951092 << i think it's plenty. [20:04]
BingoBoingo: !!invoice diana_coman 0.001 Auction - 1 server [21:09]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=nwNd [21:09]
BingoBoingo: !!v 299F18416328D5C6267DA068808992F6DC8CD92754DA564428227DCA08FAE34E [21:10]
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.001 << Auction - 1 server [21:10]
BingoBoingo: !!invoice diana_coman 0.0629 Auction - shipping 450 USD @ 7150 BTC/USD [21:10]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=e77I [21:11]
BingoBoingo: !!v 376946B55F7048F33190F59913C48860961F86226B1E7BB930CF1A08CD5DC08C [21:11]
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.0629 << Auction - shipping 450 USD @ 7150 BTC/USD [21:11]
BingoBoingo: !!invoice jfw 0.121 Auction - Switches + Dulap [21:11]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=P0fP [21:11]
BingoBoingo: !!v !!invoice jfw 0.121 Auction - Switches + FUCKGOATS [21:12]
BingoBoingo: !!invoice jfw 0.121 Auction - Switches + FUCKGOATS [21:13]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=9Kja [21:13]
BingoBoingo: !!v 4C288ECE5A04C724D9ED8F900B43DDF58DD1FEC2A5B8D6F6ABC3E1E87532E9C1 [21:13]
deedbot: Invoiced jfw 0.121 << Auction - Switches + FUCKGOATS [21:13]
BingoBoingo: !!invoice jurov 0.04 Auction FUCKGOATS [21:14]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=LHyE [21:14]
BingoBoingo: !!v 776F809591593101A215E5858DC4CB79ACA10A85094E6C26C51C88BDE8112548 [21:14]
deedbot: Invoiced jurov 0.04 << Auction FUCKGOATS [21:14]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953458 << nothing new or different, same old thing management always was. write a plan, get people to ~commit~ to parts, chase the commitments, reschedule as needed and so on. [21:15]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 14:32:04 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953428 << my initial bias is to say, yes I want it. Before I take the claim though, I have to better understand what the responsibility of heading the project means. [21:15]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953464 << just don't fucking circumvectamur amore about it, it's how all these other kids died. [21:16]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 14:39:13 dorion_road: I'm thinking best ot verify my understanding through conversation here, then write an article by the end of the week to solidify the priorities and goals. [21:16]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-25#1953471 << well, your cvasi-corp was working on this anyway, wasnt it. [21:17]
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-25 16:03:55 jfw: To update on http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950766 , I would be more comfortable with 10 hours a week, at least if it's an "intangibles and goodwill" sort of deal. dorion_road was in accord if I recall. And as discussed with spyked, the limited time could provide a good pressure to keep it productive. [21:17]
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Your tracking information http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=zOdZ [21:46]
jfw: mircea_popescu: a Linux distro, yes, though my understanding was that what we built there was too narrow in hardware and application support to be of more general interest [21:58]
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: got that, thanks. [22:01]
diana_coman: !!v 105ADF0B171AF3C5EB2A6BAA25F5310B05A5BFE35E79438965CFB2A5591AA050 [22:16]
deedbot: diana_coman paid BingoBoingo invoice 5 [22:16]
diana_coman: !!v D5FE66B7E444170287B3991EBCD2CB4C9295A0992DC0F6C017692FDEBC139B9D [22:16]
deedbot: diana_coman paid BingoBoingo invoice 4 [22:17]
diana_coman: where the server costs 0.001 btc and the shipping is 0.0629 btc for the lolz. [22:18]
jfw: !!v 2A5B16166DA2BD8EEAB4E79DA04F062A64D37D7D5E585679801FEC2D58240F86 [22:18]
deedbot: jfw paid mircea_popescu invoice 1 [22:18]
jfw: !!v 047C12E5ABE09EE88A3F77BB77A5047FC04E62711AB9E9042D3874C4F91D171C [22:18]
deedbot: jfw paid BingoBoingo invoice 1 [22:18]
mircea_popescu: jfw, maybe there's mutual parts, what the dell do i know [22:19]
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Apparently the Chinese are doing on of their "ban, but not a ban" price manipulation ops [22:22]
diana_coman: there is that too, indeed. [22:22]
jfw: mircea_popescu: could be, indeed I'll keep mine in the queue for publishing as that may help clarify. [22:27]
diana_coman: hm, mircea_popescu is there any Eulora coppers merchant left? [22:27]
mircea_popescu: huh, i suppose i'll have to open that up, iirc the last one was dpb [22:28]
BingoBoingo: jfw: Is the Gales thing a GCC4 toolchain? [22:28]
jfw: BingoBoingo: 4.7, the last series to not require a c++ compiler to bootstrap [22:28]
BingoBoingo: jfw: Good. I was checking out some Linux distros as part of the housecleaning, and everything later than 4 is hopeless. The chopped up 0.7.2 bitcoin client I use... sits in ~1.3 GB of RAM on GCC4 linux. Precariously sits in 4-ish GB RAM on GCC6 linux before exploding. Clang, and GCC later than 6, seem impossible. [22:32]
BingoBoingo: Worked on OpenBSD's weirdo GCC 2-ish thing back before OpenBSD got the bozo bit. [22:34]
BingoBoingo: Whatever the hell GCC wreckers were doing while they iterated their first digit up to 9 as Stallman mushroomed, there is no fucking way it can be considered improvement. [22:35]
jfw: advanced modern optimizations, eh? [22:35]
mircea_popescu: mozillations more like it. [22:36]
* BingoBoingo also has no idea what justified version jumping from 4 to 9 in under a decade either. [22:36]
jfw: mozillations indeed. [22:37]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, moron's immodesty. [22:37]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways, while it's still available Devuan Jessie (systemd free Debian fork) seems the least shitty noobable distro of the day that hasn't linkrotted out of existence. [22:39]
mircea_popescu: as opposed to gentoo whatever, you mean ? [22:41]
* BingoBoingo has collection of notes from over the years and recent weeks planned for blogbaking [22:41]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Gentoo's problem is it doesn't have a "Gentoo X" where X is a set of reasonably standard tools amenable to documentation. [22:42]
mircea_popescu: nfi what you're doing fucking with this, seeing how you're supposed to LOOK FOR A JOB [22:42]
mircea_popescu: suppose the next blogpost is "here's the 500 dcs i talked to" [22:43]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Job search is eating the majority of my waking hours. Aite. [22:43]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in weird eyebrows, https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/teen-girl-thief-katie-gilsenan-17150812 [23:04]
mircea_popescu: and in other anglo lulz : searches for "teen whores" return naught but, well, porn. as you'd expect. "~teenage~ whores" searches, however, return nothing but retards ranting about how their kids shouldn't suck the cock or whatever usgistani neoprotestant nonsense. [23:10]
mircea_popescu: apparently english split, "teen" vs "teenage" is how you code for real vs fantasy world. [23:11]
diana_coman: to me it sounds more like the usual "the current cool" vs "parents' ideas" [23:36]
diana_coman: ie this sort of "split" happens every generation [23:36]
mircea_popescu: possibru [23:40]
diana_coman: in wp/mpwp solved wtfs: those weirdly ordered comments of mine turned out to be the artefact of importing previously deeper-nested comments, sigh. [23:46]
mircea_popescu: aa [23:52]
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