Forum logs for 25 Jul 2017
| mircea_popescu: | in other cypherfunk lulz, "SlaveRegistry.com was allowed to go defunk on April 4th 2017, it went to auction on 5-9-17 and after a bidding war for the domain my baby and I took formal ownership of it on 5/16/17 to make sure that the M/s community still had this resource. Just like many other M/s couples my baby has a slave number which is permanently etched on my body just as my masters mark is on hers. I was not about to let | [01:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | this registry go to the way side and be used by some random porn site to push traffic... to many that identify as M/s this is a part of who they are!" | [01:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe vellum archival is the way to go after all. | [01:13] |
| jurov: | slavecoin blockchain | [05:17] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lulz, http://archive.is/vKW2T | [08:14] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ ethertards cleaned again | [08:15] |
| shinohai: | lmao ... | [08:23] |
| shinohai: | LOL The Baloney xchange won' provide support for BCC, Ver immediately pays for farticle: http://archive.is/7RsXy | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | In a post-mortem announcement, Middleton posted online today, the Veritaseum CEO said "the amount stolen was miniscule (less than 00.07%) although the dollar amount was quite material." | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | this does not immediately translate to "we wash trade like nobodys business", especially if you're fucktarded. | [09:25] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/30A4AD682B45FB1BFD5541FD2BDE7BFD28BB777EDB7C3F58D9DA35D8D0E603CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1736...6193 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '35.9.67.37 (ssh-rsa key from 35.9.67.37 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (chaos.pa.msu.edu. US MI) | [10:08] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/30A4AD682B45FB1BFD5541FD2BDE7BFD28BB777EDB7C3F58D9DA35D8D0E603CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1654...2859 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '35.9.67.37 (ssh-rsa key from 35.9.67.37 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (chaos.pa.msu.edu. US MI) | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other wtfs, http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html | [10:40] |
| shinohai: | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFiMhNUXoAUbdyR.jpg "If someone were to someone (sic) confiscate 100% of the available tokens, all we need to do is refuse to stand behind them and recreate the token under a new contract" | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [10:47] |
| shinohai: | This shit is the ultimate SFYL generator | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | i find it hysterical how the socialist mind is entirely immune to any consideration of communication costsa | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | "what, that thing that makes our theoretical system unworkable in practice ? PISH! we could switch the earth into a concave form if we all agreed to jump at the same time!" | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | the FUCKING POINT of the ipo was to get y'all idiots and imbeciles to "all" something. and it... failed. and now ? ??? | [10:49] |
| shinohai: | If your cardboard gets wet and misshapen, we simply cut you out a new one. Problem solved! | [10:49] |
| asciilifeform: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-jul-2017#2315109 << lol, the shitrag distinguished by masterpiece http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html#twelve | [11:35] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-25 14:40 mircea_popescu: and in other wtfs, http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html | [11:35] |
| lobbes: | http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html#twelve << "Unlike credit card transactions, which leave a digital trail, bitcoin transactions are designed to be anonymous and untraceable. When you transfer bitcoins to someone else, it's as if you handed over a paper bag filled with $100 bills in a dark alley." Hahahaha. This is gold. | [12:15] |
| ben_vulpes: | does anyone have b006b252052c84eb2dba6e59c011215b2e1f6d401f14e655a676537cb651b55b kicking around in a mempool? | [13:22] |
| asciilifeform: | ben_vulpes: nope. why? | [13:31] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A767717115907722CAF56D3C728599D81AE021A90EA02E7EBF170105426BC98A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1640...1697 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.221.134.122 (ssh-rsa key from 77.221.134.122 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (nagios.datapoint.spb.su. RU) | [13:39] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A767717115907722CAF56D3C728599D81AE021A90EA02E7EBF170105426BC98A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...1749 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.221.134.122 (ssh-rsa key from 77.221.134.122 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (nagios.datapoint.spb.su. RU) | [13:39] |
| asciilifeform: | 'Санкт-Петербург онлайн' | [13:42] |
| ben_vulpes: | asciilifeform: sent a transaction, refuses to confirm | [13:43] |
| ben_vulpes: | ofc i forgot to set a fee for the node, so it's clearly my fault | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | ben_vulpes: you have the low-S patch , neh ? | [13:44] |
| ben_vulpes: | ja | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | ( mod6's ) | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | then thank spamola | [13:44] |
| ben_vulpes: | how does this follow? | [13:46] |
| asciilifeform: | there are none so blind as those who will not open their third eye. or how did it go. | [13:46] |
| ben_vulpes: | well what i do not understand is what the low/high s bit has to do with its deprioritization in favor of spamola | [13:51] |
| asciilifeform: | nothing, was separate q | [13:51] |
| ben_vulpes: | ah | [13:51] |
| asciilifeform: | interestingly asciilifeform recently learned that the 'mutate high to low S and broadcast malleated tx but ONLY if a 'doublespend attempt' ( you retransmitting, say, with patched trb ) is detected ' thing is STILL running | [13:54] |
| asciilifeform: | and still nfi who or why. | [13:54] |
| asciilifeform: | ( reencoding + retransmitting that is ) | [13:54] |
| asciilifeform: | in other phunphakts, ada does NOT permit the use of bitwise ops ('and', 'xor', etc) on integer. ( only on booleans and on 'modular types' - i.e. where the compiler is absolutely certain that subj is a machine integer and machine uses 2s-complement representation.) | [15:39] |
| asciilifeform: | i can picture the discussion at the table : 'what if the sign bit on some machine is the FIRST, not last? or kept in the MIDDLE!111' | [15:40] |
| asciilifeform: | pretty interesting intro, turns out, to the world pre- intelhegemony -- where you have no ability to assume not only size of byte, but arithmetic model | [15:41] |
| asciilifeform: | 'could be ANYTHING, and you may NOT program with assumptions as to what it is' | [15:42] |
| asciilifeform: | exquisite, imho, trap for c-tards. | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-25#1689871 << aha! "The economic significance of this Bitcoin roller coaster was basically nil." ~Paul Krugman. a once-respected economist meanwhile quietly beheaded by the republic. | [16:40] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-07-25 15:35 asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-jul-2017#2315109 << lol, the shitrag distinguished by masterpiece http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html#twelve | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | ben_vulpes> ofc i forgot to set a fee for the node, so it's clearly my fault << spend from the paid address, WITH a fee. most miners will include both. | [16:41] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: by whom and for what was he respected? | [16:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | by the washpo, and for being a convincingly "liberal" socialist. | [16:42] |
| asciilifeform: | is what i thought | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in more interesting matter, http://68.media.tumblr.com/b296dc979dd54de52bc944424746a421/tumblr_obaeiyS9i81uydli6o1_1280.png | [16:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | leaving aside her pretty cunt, is she acceptalby faced ? | [16:42] |
| asciilifeform: | but 'once respected' had implication of 'by people' | [16:42] |
| asciilifeform: | faced << not imho | [16:43] |
| ben_vulpes: | mircea_popescu: spend from the paying address or paid address? | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, i didn't mean that. | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | ben_vulpes the paid address. | [16:43] |
| ben_vulpes: | so if i send a tx to friend a with no fee, and it gets stuck, the advice is to ask friend a to spend from that address and then miners are in the habit of then including the stuck txn? | [16:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes. specifically, to spend the input you sent him. this will produce a chain of A->B txn, of which A has no fee itself but B does (except to get at it you must also include A). | [16:45] |
| asciilifeform: | lulzy also in that it exposes elementary allcomer ddos of miner | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | alternatively, you can simply import that address privkey into an offline wallet, have it sign a different tx (with a fee!) and broadcast that. | [16:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | "offline" here just means "that won't hear about the 0fee tx". | [16:47] |
| asciilifeform: | ( this function requires potentially unbounded orphanage to eval ) | [16:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform nah, about half of them do max 2, about a third of the remainder max 3, and i think ther'es a max 8 also in there. | [16:47] |
| ben_vulpes: | mircea_popescu: oh neato | [16:47] |
| ben_vulpes: | yeah, i can do the wallet dance, was curious about this | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's marginally cleaner to do the first rather than the 2nd, but then again it may be actually easier to do something yourselfd than explain to another what to do. | [16:48] |
| ben_vulpes: | i didn't know people were accepting chained transactions | [16:48] |
| ben_vulpes: | also that | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | for a coupla years now, yes. | [16:48] |
| ben_vulpes: | this is the "replace by fee" thing? | [16:48] |
| asciilifeform: | yes, and you can flood'em with n-length (e.g. 7) chains that end in 'ha, gotcha' instead of tx-in-old-block, as root | [16:48] |
| asciilifeform: | which they're stuck walking | [16:49] |
| ben_vulpes: | dunno why it needed a name | [16:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | ben_vulpes nah, that'd require an A and an A' and you decide which to go by terms of B fee. that is iffier. | [16:49] |
| ben_vulpes: | wallet dance as rbf i mean | [16:50] |
| asciilifeform: | eating chains also seems dumb from a likelihood of orphaning of block pov | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | amusingly en0ough the tx chain started happening a few weeks after i whined about wtf why is it not there. but i'm sure coincidenceh. | [16:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform whyssat ? | [16:50] |
| ben_vulpes: | what does a' mean in this context spending same inputs as a but with eg different fee? | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | is that a quote or ? | [16:51] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: actually no, nm | [16:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, it's not cleanly ideal etc, but what you gonna do, people will accidentally 0fee. | [16:52] |
| ben_vulpes: | q is in re what makes an A' from an A, not a quote, prime symbol | [17:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yes, you have two different txs that spend the same output and the proposal was to resolve which gets included by adding a dependent tx with a higher fee so that A' + B always confirm instead of A because larger joint tx fee. | [18:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | <asciilifeform> ( this function requires potentially unbounded orphanage to eval ) << Well since they can get away with doing it now, they MUST | [18:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | And yes, this was used as DDoS Sauce against miners in the mempool bloating attacks. | [18:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | Chains far longer than 2 transactions | [18:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | it was. | [18:49] |
| BingoBoingo: | But so long as miners live/die on sucking shit, they still gotta do it | [18:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | No ifs, ands, or butts | [18:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | in the meanwhilulz, someone made a "game" : https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tesla-land | [18:54] |
| BingoBoingo: | Ah, it's been a thing for a while https://www.nationstates.net/nation=bingotonia | [18:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha wait, is that yours ? | [18:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | AHA | [19:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey. well, it must've crossed whatever google spam threshold or such, i finally saw it. | [19:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | only really ping it monthly to keep it from becoming inactive. | [19:01] |
| shinohai: | Pallas cat is nice touch | [19:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | Thing's been around long enough to have made now dead countries in school classes. If anything "game" prolly has lower profile now than ever. | [19:02] |
| BingoBoingo: | Unless still inflated user stats from people making Statal oppressions as projects for skewl | [19:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm. | [19:02] |
| BingoBoingo: | "The Tesla-landian economy, worth 231 billion Coils a year, is led by the Cheese Exports industry, with major contributions from Book Publishing, Arms Manufacturing, and Retail. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is 38,599 Coils, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 3.2 times as much as the poorest." << Oh my, what is this hippy stuff? | [19:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | no clue | [19:13] |
| shinohai: | http://archive.is/hABGX "in the unlikely event that the 2MB block size increase portion of Segwit2x fails to activate, Bitcoin.com will immediately shift all company resources to supporting Bitcoin Cash exclusively." | [19:16] |
| shinohai: | Ver gonna ver | [19:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | company resources ? sorry ? | [19:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | "oh i got a VALUABLE DOMAIN NAME!!!" | [19:17] |
| shinohai: | lmao | [19:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | am i the only one who recalls the inept lulz back when he was trying to sell/rent that in 2015 ? | [19:18] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> no clue << Git gud n00b, u mad cuz u bad? | [19:32] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> am i the only one who recalls the inept lulz back when he was trying to sell/rent that in 2015 ? << AHA, DID SELL/RENT, RE-NIG'd | [19:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | Poor Chicoms Ver fucked | [19:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [19:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | As opposed to the poor masses ver fucked Winter 2014 with "PLS GIX is SOLVENT, k thx Bi" | [19:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | one of the funniest dorks the upheaval temporarily drug up, at any rate. | [19:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | he and that schmuck filming a "bitcoin show" with the cam in demo mode pretty much share the accidentally-spotlighted-fucktard award for early bitcoinade. | [19:35] |
| BingoBoingo: | Ah, the Bitcoin/Pedocoin fork! | [19:35] |
| shinohai: | I always though https://bounty.bitcoin.com/mtgox.html was one of the lulziest things he ever did | [19:42] |
| shinohai: | (Besides the meltdown over 5 bitcents or whatever it was) | [19:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah it was like 20 bux. 15, 25, something. prolly half a btc at the time or such. | [19:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | It was 0.5 or 0.54 or something. | [19:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~ticker --market all | [19:52] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2555.55, vol: 21325.01974007 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2561.0, vol: 56062.96645355 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2618.406519, vol: 17418.81890000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2563.003, vol: 10782.9982542 | Volume-weighted last average: 2569.57403572 | [19:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | If Ver didn't spend it all shoving agricultural explosives up his Buttcoinslot, he could prolly buy a working Honda del sol for that money. | [19:53] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/ << Qntra - A Quick FAQ About The Not Bitcoin fork "Bitcoin Cash" | [19:54] |
| asciilifeform: | in other noose, kako finally retromonkeying with his log | [19:58] |
| asciilifeform: | replaces all mention of trilema with 'fraudster' | [19:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6pkafw/a_quick_faq_about_the_not_bitcoin_fork_bitcoin/dkpyp82/ | [19:59] |
| shinohai: | So much butthurt still | [20:00] |
| BingoBoingo: | !!Up deep-book-gk_ | [20:02] |
| deedbot: | deep-book-gk_ voiced for 30 minutes. | [20:02] |
| BingoBoingo: | deep-book-gk_: Who is your daddy and what does he do? | [20:02] |
| mod6: | evenin' | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | heya | [20:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in diaper world, http://68.media.tumblr.com/60b1bbe3a8bf5fc09ee657c5fa3d7354/tumblr_nugz6rJ3Sq1svlqo6o1_500.gif | [20:15] |
| BingoBoingo: | Good evening mod6 | [20:15] |
| mod6: | hai, just catchin up on ze logs and qntra | [20:15] |
| BingoBoingo: | Kewl, Qntra's still a bit slow. The lulzy part of the year is still just beginning | [20:16] |
| mod6: | for sure | [20:17] |
| mod6: | lol diaper world. | [20:17] |
| mod6: | that one girl from earlier was smokin | [20:17] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/slurs.htm | [20:17] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/38A6B0B2A49CE250B5E15C13A267D6E1C92EEEFD6B079242BF5DD42DBDBDD603 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1725...6207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.32.191.138 (ssh-rsa key from 176.32.191.138 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown RU LEN) | [22:01] |
| deedbot: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/38A6B0B2A49CE250B5E15C13A267D6E1C92EEEFD6B079242BF5DD42DBDBDD603 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1485...7853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.32.191.138 (ssh-rsa key from 176.32.191.138 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown RU LEN) | [22:01] |
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