Forum logs for 25 Dec 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
phf: i think mr. gerard came up here in a different context, [00:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 15:14 phf: and for those who'd like an even deeper david rabbit hole, and, i am otherwise tapping out. first article of the day, and i've already had enough [00:44]
phf: <<>> [00:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 11:43 phf: Russian crypto currency with Russian cryptography [00:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-17 12:41 mircea_popescu: phf who the fuck is some tool named david know or have to say about "ruble" anyway [00:45]
phf: etc. [00:45]
mircea_popescu: hm [01:29]
mircea_popescu: giving a bad name to both respectability and dissolution at the same time! [01:33]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess the buttcoiner pedo pantsuitism readily answers the economic question. dood trashed early bitcoin business BECAUSE that's why he had it in the first place. wasn't looking to do something useful, was looking to establish cred to try and fuck up the useful. [01:40]
asciilifeform: 1 thing i dunget, tho, how did gerald davis turn into david gerard ? [09:17]
asciilifeform: ... non-ecc ram? [09:18]
mircea_popescu: there's more to it than just by the way consider the example in : dude keeps talking of "endpoints" which are in point of fact URLs. much like crapples files very secretly used under the hood but denied to the luser. [11:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 17:49 asciilifeform: or disgorge, via any means short of full bore crack, anything previously written therein , as a file [11:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 21:34 ben_vulpes: and in responsible disclosurabilia [11:32]
mircea_popescu: they may omit to implement any meaningful utility or security what they will NEVER omit is a fully implementation of the ideology. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: you KNOW they'll have heartbleed and orc glyphs and so on and so forth, even as the "security tokens" never expire and the gameplay just isn't there. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: << when phf said so. how much attention should be paid to supposed differences among the biofilm ? [11:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 14:17 asciilifeform: 1 thing i dunget, tho, how did gerald davis turn into david gerard ? [11:44]
mircea_popescu: they're in the biofilm as their own oh-so-precious choice, specifically so as not to be distinguishable, wut can we do. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: !!up l0de [12:53]
deedbot: l0de voiced for 30 minutes. [12:53]
l0de: Yes hello, l0de here [12:54]
mircea_popescu: lol hi. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: oh right, right, the sw radio guy. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: how goes ? [12:54]
l0de: I'm here in search of funds [12:56]
mircea_popescu: oh ? funds to fund what ? [12:56]
l0de: where is our homie Danielpbarron [12:56]
mircea_popescu: !~seen danielpbarron [12:56]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: danielpbarron was last seen in #trilema 15 hours, 36 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <danielpbarron> oh hah, that's way off huh [12:56]
l0de: DPB pledged $800 to support the radio arts [12:56]
mircea_popescu: possibly xmas party with the nude truebelievers. [12:56]
l0de: superb [12:57]
mircea_popescu: !#s l0de from:danielpbarron [12:57]
a111: 13 results for "l0de from:danielpbarron", [12:57]
l0de: I myself partook of such fleshy delights last evening [12:57]
mircea_popescu: l0de so how long since you ran a pirate radio ? [12:57]
l0de: We ran a pirate radio last week, actually [12:57]
mircea_popescu: what freq/whereabouts ? [12:57]
l0de: the transmitters available to us cycle out a lot [12:58]
l0de: often we're hitting shortwave stuff [12:58]
mircea_popescu: l0de ^ [12:59]
l0de: I generally don't handle the technical elements of it [13:01]
l0de: people are just grabbing the stream and rebroadcasting it on local transmitters [13:02]
l0de: it's mega fun though [13:02]
mircea_popescu: l0de the technical elements of it are specifically what interests me, actually. [13:03]
mircea_popescu: are you willing to run a sponsorship ad on your next show, so people who DO sw-retransmit get some dough ? [13:04]
l0de: sure, if the previous promised funds are remitted [13:05]
l0de: most of the people who retransmit are already quite wealthy [13:05]
mircea_popescu: i've no doubt they will be, dood just needs to wake up. [13:05]
l0de: If you want to talk radio shit, #LRH on efnet, sloth and nance are the big gearheads [13:05]
l0de: there are a few people there really into web transmission of stuff too, who know all about nginx etc [13:05]
mircea_popescu: well, how familiar are you with the republic &c ? [13:05]
l0de: my own expertise is in psychological operatives, I'm former intel [13:06]
l0de: I'm only vaguely acquainted, I spoke with DPB about it [13:06]
mircea_popescu: i meant specifically [13:06]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future. [13:06]
mircea_popescu: aha. [13:06]
l0de: and was somewhat put off to find he didn't have any actionable plans other than BTC inevitably collapsing the government [13:06]
l0de: whereas I am one of the oldschool change grows out of the barrel of a gun types [13:07]
mircea_popescu: so, to get on the same page here, the general strategy is, 1. construct undisruptable comms 2. disrupt usg&friends comms 3. disrupt usg&friends physical presence. [13:07]
l0de: oh neat [13:07]
mircea_popescu: as far as mostly 1 is concerned, there's significant interest in shortwave, which is why it's a recurrent thread in the logs. [13:07]
l0de: that's much more desirable than what we had [13:07]
mircea_popescu: as in, [13:07]
l0de: shortwave is problematic for a lot of reasons [13:07]
mircea_popescu: do tell. [13:08]
l0de: well for one, it's one of the things the mil pays EXTREMELY close attention to [13:08]
mircea_popescu: aha. [13:08]
l0de: every single thing happening on shortwave is of interest to them [13:08]
mircea_popescu: this is rather an advantage. [13:08]
l0de: and it's all mapped and documented [13:08]
l0de: whereas comparatively internet traffic is all filtered and only things fitting a profile are really logged and paid attention to [13:09]
mircea_popescu: the idea isn't at any point to somehow "appear small and escape detection". [13:09]
l0de: additionally shortwave is jammable, unreliable, and lossy [13:09]
l0de: If shortwave was the problem, the USG could render the entire thing unusable with relatively trivial effort [13:10]
mircea_popescu: have you read eg ? [13:10]
l0de: however it's a valualbe supplement [13:10]
l0de: no, let me take a look at this [13:10]
mircea_popescu: render usable how, exactly ? like the soviets did ? [13:10]
mircea_popescu: it did not work for the soviets and it won't work for these soviets v2.0 eithert. [13:10]
l0de: nice [13:12]
l0de: the soviets never tried to go nuclear and completely bombard the frequencies [13:12]
l0de: because of the whole ww3 thing [13:12]
l0de: now that that's not such a consideration, it's possible to do that in a "oh fuck" scenario [13:13]
mircea_popescu: i guess you can now read [13:13]
mircea_popescu: the point doesn't JUST go re nukes per se this whole "usg could do THE BIG THING" is entirely pantsuit wank., [13:13]
l0de: I'm intimately familiar with nukes [13:13]
l0de: lol @ the sec email by the way [13:13]
mircea_popescu: in point of fact the usg is today much less powerful or capable than ye olde ck-kpss. [13:14]
l0de: well I'm just saying here [13:14]
l0de: at the point where shortwave communications pose an existential threat to usg [13:14]
l0de: they have the ability to greatly degrade all shortwave communications [13:14]
l0de: to the point of unusability [13:14]
mircea_popescu: they have no suych thing [13:14]
l0de: why do you believe they lack that capability [13:15]
mircea_popescu: they have less of an ability to impede sw comms than the soviets had in 1977 and it didn't work for the soviets in 1977. [13:15]
mircea_popescu: l0de intel, experience, errything. [13:15]
l0de: oh I see, I was unaware you were in intelligence [13:15]
l0de: what branch \ dept [13:15]
mircea_popescu: i am not in intelligence i have my very own intel dept, as a going concern. [13:16]
l0de: well, I would suggest you remain open to the possibility that this capability exists [13:16]
l0de: as a free tip from your friend, l0de ray dio [13:16]
mircea_popescu: gladly. [13:16]
l0de: I'm more of a fan of a microsat style solution [13:17]
l0de: it is a huge fucking pain in the ass to deal with those [13:17]
mircea_popescu: why is that ? [13:17]
l0de: because we don't currently have a platform that can deal with them in a meaningful way [13:17]
l0de: I'm actually working on a science fiction story about it right now [13:18]
mircea_popescu: romania recently launched its first sat it was a 10 cc sorta lul. [13:18]
l0de: we roma believe it's now what you have [13:18]
l0de: but how you use it [13:18]
mircea_popescu: wait what ? [13:18]
l0de: yes, I'm a gyp [13:19]
l0de: brb [13:19]
mircea_popescu: lol romania is rather unrelated to gypsies. [13:19]
mircea_popescu: sorta like naples has little to do with napalm. [13:19]
shinohai: Logged 13:19 +l0de yes, I'm a gyp >>> dasracist.ada [13:22]
mircea_popescu: heh [13:24]
mircea_popescu: !!up l0de [13:24]
deedbot: l0de voiced for 30 minutes. [13:24]
l0de: well my people are from Ardeal [13:29]
l0de: so we're a little related [13:29]
mircea_popescu: i'm from cluj. [13:29]
mircea_popescu: looks entirely likely actually. [13:29]
l0de: ya, time will tell [13:30]
l0de: alright, well I am off to take advantage of the holiday cheer by swindling some people [13:31]
l0de: fare the well, hollar @ dpb if you see him for me [13:31]
mircea_popescu: lol. hey, leave a way for danielpbarron to pay you [13:31]
l0de: ya, he's sending the funds to MTW [13:31]
mircea_popescu: ah. [13:31]
l0de: who I believe registered and leapt through the hoops [13:31]
l0de: MTW is our moneyman [13:31]
mircea_popescu: !!key MTW [13:32]
deedbot: [13:32]
mircea_popescu: cool. [13:32]
l0de: Our next show will be on 12/31 [13:32]
l0de: get someone to call in and do an infomercial about the republic [13:32]
mircea_popescu: feel free to leave pointer [13:32]
ben_vulpes: !!reputation MTW [13:46]
deedbot: [13:46]
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record and in case it isn't entirely self-evident on the basis of : whenever some self-proclaimed "sovereign" of the fiat sort tries to say "hey, we have a law", the correct response is to a) point out to that self-proclaimed faux sovereign that there exist other just as valid because just as self-proclaimed faux sovereigns (the eu, russia, china, whatever, bucnha them [14:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 18:10 mircea_popescu: have you read eg ? [14:00]
mircea_popescu: ) b) that the "law" of $random-other-fiatlul MAY (not does, MAY) diverge in any manner at any point and finally that c) it is incumbent on the pretender to exhaustively prove to any arbitrary standard that b does not apply. [14:00]
mircea_popescu: this drives the screw into the psychopaths that their wankworld is just one random wankworld among many extant and possible ones, of no further interest than any other piece of bad fanfic, and besides, evidently the only way to satisfy c is if they conquer each other, so maybe ww-lulz can be had in the same go. [14:01]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of anyone got any ideas of how to meaningfully support the SW hobbist ? [14:34]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 18:32 l0de: get someone to call in and do an infomercial about the republic [14:34]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: those who are only interested in transmitting voice -- may as well be rust hobbyists [14:38]
mircea_popescu: same item can be used for both [14:39]
asciilifeform: and that's ~all, afaik, of'em [14:39]
asciilifeform: nope [14:39]
asciilifeform: need carrierless. [14:39]
asciilifeform: wholly different circuit. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: oooh [14:39]
* asciilifeform bbl, meat [14:39]
mircea_popescu: that's a good point. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: and yes we gotta formulate something. [14:39]
mod6: /names [14:48]
mod6: bah [14:49]
mod6: My host for '' is currently down, support ticket filed. Will let you know when it's back up. Thanks. [15:23]
danielpbarron: i already sent the money to MTW that night. pretty sure it went through [15:37]
ben_vulpes: << i wrote both a "rebroadcasttransaction" and a "dumprawtx" the former categorically did not work, the least produces raw transactions on disk. [15:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 01:52 phf: i think correct method would really be to get the transaction out as a binary array into shiva, and then have a transaction parser in shiva itself that'll break it down into a sexp or whatever [15:38]
ben_vulpes: will post the transaction dumper later, after i tinker with it a bit more. [15:39]
ben_vulpes: oho i think i see why the rebroadcaster appeared to fail completely, nobody likes trb dust [15:39]
ben_vulpes: !!up lollig400 [15:55]
deedbot: lollig400 voiced for 30 minutes. [15:55]
lollig400: ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ HAPPY NIGGER MAS!! IF YOU WANT JOIN A CELEBRATION THAT IS NIGGER FREE PLEASE JOIN #/JOIN RIGHT HERE ON THIS NETWORK!! xezmscxkyz: ang-st cblgh kjj davout_ mobile46836 joecool toohigh trinque asciilifeform webbyz jhvh1 midnightmagic mats a111 dooglus mod6 gribble _whitelogger BingoBoingo [15:55]
ben_vulpes: !!down lollig400 [15:55]
lollig400: ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ HAPPY NIGGER MAS!! IF YOU WANT JOIN A CELEBRATION THAT IS NIGGER FREE PLEASE JOIN #/JOIN RIGHT HERE ON THIS NETWORK!! elmkussi: whaack phf The20YearIRCloud asciilifeform danielpbarron ben_vulpes _whitelogger Framedragger ang-st gribble jurov shinohai mquander spyked mod6 MTW StarmanDeluxe punto yangwao_ Techman deedbot kjj dooglus mircea_popescu trinque mimisbrunnr [15:55]
ben_vulpes: join #/join ? [15:56]
shinohai: Logged: 15:57 <-- lollig400 has quit (K-Lined) <<< Now we are closer to nigger free. [16:11]
ben_vulpes: and in bbc news today [16:14]
ben_vulpes: "The SEC, on the other hand, thinks that the accelerated monitoring fees themselves were dumb and bad. It is not wrong, exactly, about that. But dumb and bad fees are not, in general, violations of the securities laws, and so the SEC has to pretend that the dumb and bad fees were also not disclosed. It is sort of a charming picture of the investment industry: If a fee is dumb and bad enough, then no investor [17:05]
ben_vulpes: could have agreed to pay it, so it must not have been disclosed. Even if it actually was." [17:05]
ben_vulpes: [17:09]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, mircea_popescu: because an ideal v wouldn't apply both increase_aggression_levels and excise_hash_truncation when pressing excise_hash_truncation, how do i make another vpatch depend on both of those without needlessly touching a file changed in excise_hash_truncations to make increase_aggression_levels depend on it or vice versa? [17:55]
ben_vulpes: i baked the vpatch i'm working on by pressing to excise_hash_truncation which only works accidentally, as presses both leaves at that level (first increase_aggression_levels and then excise_hash_truncation) but i don't see a route to producing a vpatch stitching together excise_hash_truncation and increase_aggression_levels without doing something that v doesn't support like pressing multiple heads [17:55]
ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file [17:55]
ben_vulpes: the specifics of this case is that increase_aggression_levels touches *only* net.cpp and excise_hash_truncations touches a whole lotta stuff but *not* net.cpp [17:56]
phf: << of course it would've sounded a lot lamer, if you just straight up said "i'm from transylvania" [18:41]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 18:29 l0de: well my people are from Ardeal [18:41]
phf: so first time i got on irc, 96 or so, i was on some random irc channel, and overcome with the awesomeness (in the proper sense) of this intercontinental communication. the person i was talking to was irish, so, eager to find some common ground in this historically first teleconference between the russian people and the irish, i blurted that you could say that i'm also sort of irish [18:49]
phf: he said, oh yeah, so i had to explain that you could say that i was irish, by way of Rurik, who was a Varangian. when the guy finally understood what i was talking about, he was not amused, possibly because i got my nordic tribal relationships wrong [18:51]
phf: so naturally i was surprised and delighted when i came to u.s., and discovered that every other person i'd meet was also russian, by way of a great great great great parent who imigrated from ireland, fleeing as he was the repercussions of second desmond rebellion [18:56]
ben_vulpes: !!up BigTexasBingo [19:12]
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes. [19:12]
BigTexasBingo: Muchas gracias. Navidad muy tranquila after the three solid hours of latino Xmas fireworks [19:12]
BigTexasBingo: Polishing my boots for a week of pounding pavement during the day on the isp and pounding something else in the evenings [19:13]
BigTexasBingo: Businesses are starting to reopen in phases and it appears fireworks may happen again [19:17]
phf: << comment stuck in spam queue? [19:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 19:15 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox post your puzzle-hash as comment in ch4 [19:25]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron indeed drama afoot ? [20:03]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:13 deedbot: danielpbarron paid MTW 0.054 [20:03]
MTW: hey [20:04]
MTW: danielpbarron: my withdraw never went through [20:04]
mircea_popescu: did you verify it ? [20:05]
MTW: i did [20:05]
MTW: and i see a 0.0 balance now [20:05]
mircea_popescu: what address was it to go to ? [20:05]
MTW: but no transaction on blockchain, etc [20:05]
MTW: sec let me check logs [20:05]
MTW: 1LYDdX8NNA3J5Zi8GMDBCtrCCwoAp6pVKV [20:06]
mircea_popescu: << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ? [20:06]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 22:55 ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file [20:06]
trinque: MTW: ah, I see it. there's a printout I apparently didn't get. give me a few and I'll dispatch. [20:07]
MTW: awesome alright [20:07]
trinque: the bot uses a cold wallet, with a human step [20:07]
mircea_popescu: cool. [20:07]
MTW: yeah that is the smart way to do it [20:07]
trinque: MTW: I am the operator, so report any strange to me. sorry for the delay. [20:07]
MTW: will do, nbd [20:07]
mircea_popescu: << is teh punchline missing there ? [20:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 23:56 phf: so naturally i was surprised and delighted when i came to u.s., and discovered that every other person i'd meet was also russian, by way of a great great great great parent who imigrated from ireland, fleeing as he was the repercussions of second desmond rebellion [20:09]
phf: one disadvantage of irc is that once you start on a thought, you can't really revise. i didn't really have a good punch line, so i left it at that, a dud, rather than fizzle with a weak punchline. [20:16]
asciilifeform: << queue is empty [20:16]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 00:25 phf: << comment stuck in spam queue? [20:16]
phf: asciilifeform: weird, because i posted and it gave me a #comment-xxx redirect, which is usually what it does when waiting for moderator [20:17]
mircea_popescu: quote the xxx ? [20:18]
phf: hmm, i think firefox's history might've died with a crash, so i got nothing, i'll just repost [20:23]
deedbot: MTW: [21:10]
asciilifeform: phf: comment posted [21:46]
* asciilifeform notices massive shitflood, turns out: front page of lamernews again [23:48]
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