Forum logs for 24 Jan 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/the-american-consumer-in-two-photos << CH - The American consumer, in two photos [00:27]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-23-jan-2017#2232182 << d00d has some rather surreal 'thousand year usg reich' wtf, e.g., https://huwieler.net/2015/10/30/quantum-cyber-warfare-the-defense-policy-we-dont-have-but-should/ [01:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:24 mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then [01:09]
asciilifeform: 'will Quantum Computing be to Cyber warfare what Nuclear weapons have been to kinetic warfare? And if it is, how can the U.S. DoD establish a world-wide, non-proliferation security regime?' [01:11]
asciilifeform: didjaknow. [01:11]
mats: its humorous, really [01:14]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606256 << o noes we even have VERBOTEN HATE SPEECH nao ? [01:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:39 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-23#1606168 << this will be VERBOTEN HATE SPEECH but amazon's registration and dns record handling is entirely adequate [01:38]
mircea_popescu: almost like a real irl state and errythang [01:38]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606273 << one man, one verse, one truck, one reverse ? [01:39]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:44 ben_vulpes: one man, one verse, one vote, one line [01:39]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606292 << this is actually pretty solid reasoning. ie, if you're going to live in soviet union, might as well live in moscow. [01:41]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:58 trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry [01:41]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606322 << you'll have to one day sit down and explain to me exactly what you mean by "optimization strategy". [01:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 01:51 phf: (fwiw last time i checked in with clasp, it was also dog slow, probably a combination of insane technology tower and lack of optimization strategy, that all goes back to original point "writing lisp is hard") [01:43]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606333 << i'm with mats. "dod", seriously ? [01:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 06:14 mats: its humorous, really [01:45]
ben_vulpes: "bezzle ops for bezzle corps" [01:49]
ben_vulpes: our options are to scratch in the dirt or pretend that a life made of plastic is worth living. [01:50]
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/10729577345/ << disregard the meatsack, gaze in wonder at the caddy [01:51]
mircea_popescu: those'd generally be teh options yeah [01:56]
ben_vulpes: in other artificial intelligences: https://player.vimeo.com/video/192711856 [03:05]
davout: wtf am i watching [03:45]
ben_vulpes: AaronvanW: fix your connection. [05:47]
ben_vulpes: davout: hard to tell from over here [05:48]
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/the-cias-flickr-account << CH - The CIA's flickr account [05:49]
davout: your article made me realize that US and mauritian politics now share this "let's put my son in charge" monkeystantronic attribute [06:06]
mod6: mornin' [10:44]
thestringpuller: Kim Dotcom, from MegaUpload to Bitcoin GLBSE scammer. [12:18]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE2D1AFD7DCD592ADC6C52193DCABE95F5A5577E9C902FC60CE156B05BC24E5D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1739...5987 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.74.151.176 (ssh-rsa key from 80.74.151.176 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CH) [13:53]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE2D1AFD7DCD592ADC6C52193DCABE95F5A5577E9C902FC60CE156B05BC24E5D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1783...9187 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '80.74.151.176 (ssh-rsa key from 80.74.151.176 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown CH) [13:53]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606330 << all that her bs... [14:41]
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 06:09 a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:24 mats: https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training << luls, guy that went to BCT with Manning says he was a little bitch even then [14:41]
mircea_popescu: dude ~maybe~, if i know them personally and care on some sort of level i might update some dork's gender. unless you invent fucking vlsi the odds aren't too good of that. [14:42]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/how-to-deal-with-little-girls/ << Trilema - How to deal with little girls [14:49]
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. epic write-up. [14:50]
mircea_popescu: mats i tell you guy almost makes me want to sign up. [14:54]
mircea_popescu: "At the end of the field exercise, that holdover was walking up to groups of us, offering to sell us candy for $20 a package. We all knew to keep our distance from him – he was untrustworthy, he was in trouble, and he was only going to get you in trouble too if you associated with him. And yet, Chelsea Manning bought a package of M&Ms from him for $20. I remember that scene, because Manning was not quiet about it. She was p [15:21]
mircea_popescu: ractically bragging out loud that she had contraband candy. At six weeks into basic training, it just wasn’t worth it, and yet that scene has stayed with me all these years, because for Manning, it somehow was worth it. Maybe by then, she thought she had nothing else to lose." [15:21]
mircea_popescu: dude's not very perceptive. manning evidently comes from a broken home, which instilled the expectation that Mommy is somehow significantly more powerful than Daddy. [15:21]
mircea_popescu: which is why he joined the army, too, trying to bait that absent father and which is WHY the candy thing. didn't want the fucking candy anymore than i do. just wanted to see if dog may be enticed to bark in the exact manner that'd get it shot ? [15:22]
mircea_popescu: and this is what he was doing with the wikileaks, too. until the day he dies, pvt c manning will be looking to reassure himself that yes, totally, mommy rules! [15:22]
asciilifeform: it read exactly like traditional description of 'destined to be lowered into pederasty' d00d in ru prison [15:22]
mircea_popescu: letting him out of prison is likely the dumbest thing obama ever did. not in terms of impact, which it entirely lacks, but in terms of concentration. [15:22]
mircea_popescu: it's a tiny m&m of stupid. [15:22]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. [15:23]
mircea_popescu: notice that the feathering thing is actually curative, as proven by the fact that absent the men, rooster did it to himself. [15:23]
mircea_popescu: found some nice gals in white lab coats and well... [15:23]
asciilifeform: actually iirc manning was never snipped [15:25]
asciilifeform: only hormonized [15:26]
mircea_popescu: "In 2007, the U.S. Army was habitually failing to meet its monthly recruiting goals the application standards relaxed and a great cross-section of humanity ended up reporting for duty that warm October at Fort Leonard Wood. In the company, there was a 17-year-old who had enlisted with a waiver, and there was: a 42-year-old mother of three who was terrified of needles a new grandmother to a brand-new infant granddaughter an [15:39]
mircea_popescu: d a former coffee distributor in South America in his mid-thirties who everyone still called “Grandpa.” One recruit ironically named “Goesforth” went AWOL within 48 hours of arrival, deserted the military, and was never seen again. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: One recruit in fourth platoon had been homeless before he joined, and another had blown his entire first university semester’s tuition on OxyContin before he dropped out and enlisted. One recruit was a Mexican citizen who was willing to go to Iraq and fight for the United States in exchange for expedited citizenship. Another was a female with dual German/American citizenship who was so short, the German Army wouldn’t take [15:39]
mircea_popescu: her, so she joined up with the Americans instead. Charlie 82d had dads in their mid-thirties, and it had dads not yet old enough to buy beer. My platoon had a single mom who had been working as an exotic dancer before she raised her right hand and took the oath another had married young, got divorced and wanted to get as far away from her Ex as possible she figured the Middle East was probably far enough, but if he tried t [15:39]
mircea_popescu: o find her there, he’d probably just get blown up by an IED – problem solved." [15:39]
mircea_popescu: basically the us army is a ridiculous menagerie. AND the whole fucking point, from the pov of the obama DoS, is exactly that it not only stay that way, but never again become an actual army. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: "What is not accurate is the false and felonious image of the U.S. military on which the defense of her conduct has been, at its root, predicated: that somehow everyone in her formative years in the military was practically part of a tribe of 6’2”, overly-aggressive Alpha males pumping testosterone out their pores who ganged up on the smallest in the group and tore her apart out of hyper-machismo intolerance that War is [15:41]
mircea_popescu: so brutish and nasty, that Warriors too must be. That is simply not accurate." << apparently you can get random dork to support the termiting, also, for as long as you call him a "chinese linguist" or w/e the fuck. [15:42]
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder, a new model army of old strippers and youthful gramas, dedicated to the global fight against the tribe of 6 foot 2 "overly" aggressive Alpha males pumping testosterone out their pores. [15:43]
asciilifeform: hey it's how they abolished conscription. put folx from unemployment queue in uniform. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: except its not folx. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: irrespective of the considerations pof the case, what remais is that random "intelligence analyst" thinks army should be dedicated to the rooting out of manhood. [15:46]
mircea_popescu: the way things shape up, this current nazism is actually a lot more insane than the original german version. holy shit, what, you want to kill ~men~ ?! [15:48]
ben_vulpes: based on historical record alone it is very unlikely but i put the chances that mircea_popescu dramatically underestimates the scale and scope of insanity running amok in the states at ~5% [16:05]
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't live there, so... [16:06]
mircea_popescu: quite possibru. [16:07]
danielpbarron: oh, from who can I get a copy of mp-wp ? my blog box seems to have crapped out once and for all. figure it's a good excuse to migrate to something better [16:11]
mircea_popescu: ican't recall if ben_vulpes or phf were maintaining it. who was it ? [16:12]
ben_vulpes: shinohai`: [16:13]
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'll root around for mine later today [16:13]
danielpbarron: k, thanks [16:13]
mircea_popescu: o was it shinohai` ? [16:13]
ben_vulpes: dunno that he ever formally undertook it [16:19]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://lwn.net/Articles/712366/ [16:29]
asciilifeform: '...trivial systemd local root exploit, that [16:30]
asciilifeform: was silently fixed in the upstream git.. The analysis says that is a "possible DoS", but its a local root exploit...' [16:30]
mircea_popescu: heh not the first time someone lies on exploit analysis [16:37]
shinohai: danielpbarron: I have an archive i can get you later this evening, i moved this morning and setting up nw [16:47]
ben_vulpes: eheh in other dependent hacks, dog wanted to destroy things the child was throwing, so i gave the child a lemon to throw around. dog will chase, but not retrieve the lemon. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:03]
danielpbarron: no rush [17:12]
mircea_popescu: !!up nicknaem [19:43]
deedbot: nicknaem voiced for 30 minutes. [19:43]
nicknaem: hello [19:43]
nicknaem: I must say, the not naming myself thing kind of got under my skin [19:52]
mircea_popescu: o it did ? [19:53]
nicknaem: yeah [19:53]
nicknaem: you know, I agree on many things you write [19:53]
nicknaem: so there is some truth in it [19:54]
nicknaem: i dont hate the world though [19:54]
nicknaem: nor my parents etc [19:54]
mircea_popescu: well if you're patient enough im penning a reply to your latest comment so we can continue from there [19:54]
mircea_popescu: rather than dribble it in chat. [19:54]
nicknaem: sure [19:56]
mircea_popescu: there you go nicknaem [20:09]
asciilifeform: a111 [~a111@unaffiliated/phf/bot/a111] has quit [Quit: ...] << phf?? [21:25]
BingoBoingo: In other ancient ocean sludge https://archive.is/d5w1Z [22:32]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/vessenes-gox-drama-continues/ << Qntra - Vessenes Gox Drama Continues [22:52]
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/feminine-exceptionalism/ << The Whet - Feminine Exceptionalism [23:21]
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