Forum logs for 23 Oct 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - A few alternatives to interesting. [00:07]
BingoBoingo: !!Up Raven_Zero [00:32]
deedbot: Raven_Zero voiced for 30 minutes. [00:32]
BingoBoingo: Welcome back Mr Creative [00:32]
Raven_Zero: Thanks for voicing me..though I just want to find out why I need to be looking at your conversations.. [00:33]
BingoBoingo: Well to figure that out, Who is your daddy and what does he do? [00:41]
BingoBoingo: In other research, the Opteron 6128 is looking like quite the beefcake [00:41]
Raven_Zero: .../whoisyourdaddy [00:43]
Raven_Zero: !! register test [00:51]
deedbot: << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Japanese VCR vs. Old Fashioned [00:51]
BingoBoingo: In other numbers hitting the inbox, an IP Transit price: "After checking in details, the IP transit (1G Global Internet Access) is around HKD310,000/m. It is provided by PCCW Global. 24 months contract is required." [01:10]
BingoBoingo: In alt orc tokens that's ~40k [01:14]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell raven_zero see [01:33]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [01:33]
shinohai: !~blocks [10:01]
jhvh1: shinohai: 491325 [10:01]
mod6: mornin' [11:53]
* shinohai waves to mod6 [11:58]
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu [12:19]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [12:19]
asciilifeform: << lol BingoBoingo ! how would i have a thread like if i went to that shithole ? [12:21]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 23:16 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Didja end up in the Dontesk republic? [12:21]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 15:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ask in english, what. [12:21]
asciilifeform: and it's donetsk lol [12:22]
asciilifeform: but no. [12:22]
* shinohai prefers the `Donktest` Republic .... [12:38]
shinohai: Passed all tests [12:39]
diana_coman: to recap clues as I see them: orcistan -> poor/undeveloped country roofless palaces -> warm(ish) abandoned trainstations -> former colony/it was once something good food + "you'll love Odessa" -> southern style not enough language-fu -> !USSR asciilifeform has "things that need to be done there" -> ????? basically this last one is a killer [12:54]
diana_coman: if there were any cats mentioned I'd have guessed Turkey! [12:55]
asciilifeform: not so poor [12:56]
* diana_coman adds note to her asciilifeform-glossary [12:57]
asciilifeform: and i'ma a little surprised that no one solved riddle yet [13:00]
diana_coman: India? [13:04]
asciilifeform: nope [13:05]
asciilifeform: it's an orcistan not a batheinourownshitistan [13:05]
asciilifeform: and it has pretty gurlz, and proper dairy [13:05]
asciilifeform: and mighty fine bandwidth [13:06]
asciilifeform: and mighty fine nearly everything, now that i think about it. [13:07]
diana_coman: hm, so ..what's *wrong* with it? [13:07]
asciilifeform: really, nuffin wrong with it, at least not to asciilifeform's naked eye. i'd move immediately if i could. [13:08]
* diana_coman is highly suspicious of everything fine [13:08]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman he's new. [13:09]
mircea_popescu: !!key ascii_in_orcland [13:10]
deedbot: [13:10]
phf: riddles come with clues, here we're just guessing. << i'll add bidet in hotels to this (which are mostly missing even in european hotels) [13:34]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 16:54 diana_coman: to recap clues as I see them: orcistan -> poor/undeveloped country roofless palaces -> warm(ish) abandoned trainstations -> former colony/it was once something good food + "you'll love Odessa" -> southern style not enough language-fu -> !USSR asciilifeform has "things that need to be done there" -> ????? basically this last one is a killer [13:34]
phf: actually, not even that, i'm not sure where i got the bidet from :o [13:35]
asciilifeform: no no it was mentioned [13:35]
phf: oh, right, same thread as [13:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 10:24 asciilifeform: omfg hotel has a SHOEHORN [13:35]
phf: asciilifeform: it's not a fun game, because there's not any kind of hook to go buy. "great coffee and beautiful women" is not it [13:36]
phf: but i'll guess it's either spain or croatia [13:38]
mircea_popescu: << turkey is not poor in any sense. [13:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 16:56 asciilifeform: not so poor [13:38]
phf: i suspect in turkey it would've been "they have bidet in public toilets!" [13:39]
mircea_popescu: in fact if taken to mission district and sultanahmed, civillian would wrongly decide which is "the capital of the technology world of the future" [13:39]
mircea_popescu: phf hahaha no such thing. throughout arab world, most of turkey included, the standard toilet includes a water spit pipe ~where the watertrap is. with special fauced accessible whiole seated. [13:40]
phf: come to think of me both of my guesses are poorer than turkey [13:40]
mircea_popescu: aha. to reiterate, must visit istanbul, at the very least a weekend, take girl across horn to see the train station the romanians bombed, kebab etc. [13:40]
asciilifeform: nao if only they let folx with u.s. pasports in'ere [13:41]
phf: mircea_popescu: i was thinking of those small plastic bottles they leave even when proper water system is not accessible. [13:41]
asciilifeform: ( tr recently banned folx from usa ) [13:41]
mircea_popescu: AND throughout the egypt that i've seen, they to this day have clay pots with water in the shade every quarter mile or so on the road. notwithstanding that yes you can buy bottled water and did i share that pic of the desert dhl ? [13:41]
phf: asciilifeform: my guess wasn't evaluated! [13:42]
asciilifeform: negative on both, phf [13:43]
mircea_popescu: << me too, considering who they're dealing with. but i guess they dunno how to factor the alf into all of it. [13:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 17:00 asciilifeform: and i'ma a little surprised that no one solved riddle yet [13:43]
asciilifeform: i've found it tricky to drop a clue that's a troo clue but doesn't give puzzler away entirely [13:44]
phf: that's what makes a riddle a riddle [13:44]
asciilifeform: it's a fun riddle to folx who possibly know a few things re asciilifeform [13:44]
mircea_popescu: << seems evident like that, costaricaestonia. [13:46]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 17:36 phf: asciilifeform: it's not a fun game, because there's not any kind of hook to go buy. "great coffee and beautiful women" is not it [13:46]
asciilifeform: lol! [13:46]
mircea_popescu: or w/e, nicaraguaczech republic [13:46]
asciilifeform: cocarica, nicorepublic [13:49]
mircea_popescu: cocarica lmao. [13:50]
mircea_popescu: co-caricia [13:50]
asciilifeform: kukareku [13:50]
mircea_popescu: (carici being yet another way to say cunt in the language entirely made up of ways and means to say cunt) [13:50]
asciilifeform: btw powerful pigeons here, they do their thing in sync, just like on asciilifeform's homeworld, you can hear from across the street [13:51]
mircea_popescu: or wait, this actually is dick rather. [13:51]
mircea_popescu: w/e, SAME DIFFERENCE [13:51]
diana_coman: phf, ahh, bidet, right tbh that made me instantly think of Italy and it would fit womenz (if south) but I kind of crossed out EU to start with [14:02]
asciilifeform: curious, diana_coman , why crossed out [14:08]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, mainly because basically socialist [14:10]
asciilifeform: here's another clue, ~0 islam [14:11]
asciilifeform: oook pics: [14:20]
asciilifeform: ^ includes the oblig. airplane shot [14:20]
shinohai: Is asciilifeform in Switzerland/Lichtenstein ? [14:21]
asciilifeform: nope. [14:21]
asciilifeform: though good guess [14:21]
* asciilifeform bbl, phood [14:22]
mircea_popescu: !!~ticker --market all [14:23]
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all [14:23]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5825.78, vol: 13271.89076764 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5818.1, vol: 58539.93720639 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5834.8, vol: 4063.78115893 | Volume-weighted last average: 5820.33778456 [14:23]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 100 / 5820.33778456 [14:24]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 100 / 5820.33778456 = 0.01718113341553418 [14:24]
mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 0.01718113 1D5gCE3JkbzUMHQmYkCUhn91Rm4DRfPPJQ [14:24]
deedbot: Get your OTP: [14:24]
diana_coman: Hungary?? [14:39]
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls process mpex withdrawal, seems there's also stuck order [14:52]
mircea_popescu: on it. [14:52]
mircea_popescu: loller <<->> [14:55]
diana_coman: what, he went to Romania 2nd time and it's waaay better than first? [15:04]
asciilifeform: loox like we got a winrar folx [15:10]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman possibly he took his own women with this time, so isn't stuck depending on pot luck. [15:38]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's plenty of islam in ro lol. for eg constanta is like 15% sunni. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: ancient people, too. dobruja muslims are like odessa russians, there before the romanian occupation. [15:41]
diana_coman: lol those rubbish bins looked very...Romanian but the "no islam" thing didn't quite fit, hence Hungary seemed more likely [15:41]
mircea_popescu: heck, temeswar was a raya for centuries. has a mosq and everything. [15:42]
mircea_popescu: [15:43]
asciilifeform: ancient islam a-ok [15:54]
asciilifeform: last time i was only here for 3d tho [15:55]
asciilifeform: long enuff to get hard, but not spoodje [15:55]
asciilifeform: pet re steak: ‘joiana the cow died not in vain’ [15:57]
asciilifeform: and the grappa, is mightyfine [15:58]
mircea_popescu: kik [15:59]
* asciilifeform is in the c2 place but it is in civilian rather than mircea_popescutronic mode [16:00]
asciilifeform: usa has nfi wat is food [16:01]
mircea_popescu: << i guess what everyone means by "islam" these days is salafism bs, much in the manner ustardianism is what "everyone" takes "western civilisation" to mean. [16:03]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 19:54 asciilifeform: ancient islam a-ok [16:03]
mircea_popescu: pointedly it does not, "western civilisation" reduces to the habsburg lands centered on vienna, or if one is 1600s versed the paris-florence-venice axis i guess [16:04]
asciilifeform: asciilifeform wurked for an ancientislam d00d for many yrs [16:04]
mircea_popescu: anglos never were part of western civilisation in any meaningful sense, and their piracy adventures dun change this. [16:05]
asciilifeform: hey asciilifeform is not a hapsburg but had the carriage gate!111 [16:05]
mircea_popescu: better than nothing! [16:05]
asciilifeform: also not an angloid but these fine folx dunnno that [16:05]
mircea_popescu: must be frustrating. [16:06]
asciilifeform: aha! [16:06]
asciilifeform: but motivating [16:06]
asciilifeform: holy FUq 40bux , for phoods that cannot be had for even 100 in shitistan [16:07]
asciilifeform: ‘intermezzo’ is neato ftr. [16:08]
mircea_popescu: are you going to check out the strip joints ? [16:09]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: checking out the bed joint, $mission tomorrow [16:38]
mircea_popescu: what is this bed joint ? [16:47]
asciilifeform: $hotel [16:56]
mircea_popescu: a [16:58]
asciilifeform: << lol!! wat sort of mosque serves cocacola!! [17:17]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 19:43 mircea_popescu: [17:17]
BingoBoingo: Remember kids to always ask for the additional details: [17:53]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thus far i can’t escape the suspicion that rack rental is fundamentally same type of chumpatron as box rental [17:56]
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ripoff against ‘poorfags’ who can’t or won’t build a dc ) [17:57]
BingoBoingo: Eh, looking more like the price of internet isn't being properly levied upon consumers. [18:15]
mircea_popescu: fwiw, trilema serves 1-2 terrabytes each month. [18:55]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 8*1024 ** 4 / 30 / 24 / 3600 [18:55]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 8*1024 ** 4 / 30 / 24 / 3600 = 3393554.406716049 [18:55]
mircea_popescu: 3.4Mbps sustained. [18:55]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 12 / 9 [18:58]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 12 / 9 = 1.3333333333333333 [18:58]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so they wanna eat a 3 per mbps at the lowest setting, looks like, and otherwise willing to let you have it for 50 cents if you commit. [18:59]
mircea_popescu: or am i misunderstanding all this ? [19:00]
BingoBoingo: Well, I am working on understanding this. Was sorta hoping to get a X per Terabyte figure. Anyways, the billing convention on these terms seems to be outta the month busiest 36 hours are tossed and transfer is averaged. [19:02]
mircea_popescu: the devil is in the details. "busiest 36 hours ARE SERVED and not billed", or "we will simply cut you from internet 36 hours each month and bill for th erest" ? [19:02]
BingoBoingo: Served, not figured into the averaging. Hence "95th percentile" [19:04]
mircea_popescu: not the worst arrangement. [19:04]
BingoBoingo: Not at all, looking pretty good actually. Even unmetered is only $4.6/mbps which shows transit price is not outta whack, if we had a customer planning to fully saturate connection. [19:08]
BingoBoingo: Also makes using a U or two on shared hosting service not such a bad proposition. [19:10]
BingoBoingo: But makes it clear why Netflix tries to plant a cage full of VCRs as clost to every customer as possible. [19:12]
mircea_popescu: right. i don't recall off hand the phuctor traffic figures, but pretty sure it's not 1mbps sustained over a month iirc not even a tenth that. eulora similarily eats in the kbps sustained, and so... [19:12]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1024*1024/8*3600*24*30 [19:12]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1024*1024/8*3600*24*30 = 339738624000 [19:12]
* BingoBoingo trying to figure what a Bitcoin node sustains over a month. [19:13]
mircea_popescu: ~340 GB = 1 Mbps sustained for a month. ignoring the 95% thing. [19:13]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo depends on the node, but a non-magistral item maybe 10-50 kbps. [19:13]
BingoBoingo: Sweet, and having the two 10 Gbps ports is only a $400 portion of the $3840 quote. [19:15]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [19:15]
mircea_popescu: anyway, prolly get their lowest thing and expand it when you see enough traffic to justify it. [19:17]
mircea_popescu: ie when 800 + n * 12 > 1400 + n * 11 and so following. [19:17]
* BingoBoingo going to pick up a PCENGINES apu to play with, Ubiqiti has distributors in Brazil, exploring best way to acquire boxes [19:17]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo one doesn't help. you gotta mount eight as per alf's magics, i wouldn't bother. [19:17]
mircea_popescu: you're not an experimental machine building station. if the item exists commercially you use it if not whoever aims to whine is more than welcome to produce it himself. [19:18]
BingoBoingo: 8 it'll be then [19:19]
mircea_popescu: ya but iirc you need custom mounts and so on. [19:20]
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking u1 rackmount formed aluminum sheet with fans on face apu chasis affixed to sheet, unless alf shares his recipe. [19:22]
BingoBoingo: But yeah. Way to get monster Opteron 6128 boxes onto rack higher priority [19:24]
shinohai: hue, hue, br, br [19:27]
BingoBoingo: brb sobertime [19:28]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [23:07]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5641.92, vol: 18805.37245660 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5628.1, vol: 84467.50304428 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5642.0, vol: 6068.10645202 | Volume-weighted last average: 5631.24828823 [23:07]
BingoBoingo: !!up jawbone [23:19]
deedbot: jawbone voiced for 30 minutes. [23:19]
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