Forum logs for 19 Oct 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/2016-chicago-more-violent-than-2015-chicago-by-1000-shootings-so-far/ << Qntra - 2016 Chicago More Violent Than 2015 Chicago By 1000 Shootings So Far [00:12]
asciilifeform: oblig: http://heyjackass.com [00:12]
BingoBoingo: lol [00:14]
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556642 << #HashTags that don't even link to anything is the exact opposite of literacy [00:20]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 23:41 asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's link, http://www.uncomputing.org/?p=1716 << lulzy example, more or less at random, of peculiarly literate lizard shill [00:20]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [00:29]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 434938 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 517 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [00:29]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [00:29]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 635.0, vol: 2791.35995364 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 633.478, vol: 2996.44422 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 638.61, vol: 6600.92428158 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 640.912559, vol: 630684.40630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 636.99, vol: 585.90599856 | Volume-weighted last average: 640.825123593 [00:29]
mircea_popescu: and in other slutwalks, http://67.media.tumblr.com/664192ee16a81806fe5a41a2f11892d5/tumblr_oefajj3I2p1uen6aho3_400.gif [01:19]
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/open-parasitic-p2p-relay/#comment-119511 (awaiting moderation) [07:13]
mircea_popescu: approved & answered. [07:14]
Framedragger: (man, i am in dire need of multi-tier TODO lists (sorted by urgency and other things). my TODO text file is a mess.) [07:15]
mircea_popescu: heh [07:17]
adlai: Framedragger: are you familiar with tb0t and http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ ? [07:17]
Framedragger: adlai: i've looked at it and i like it. i haven't used it! [07:18]
* Framedragger checks tb0t commands [07:18]
Framedragger: i suspect it wouldn't be optimal in my case. i want ticket tags and stuff. dependency graph is of course nice. [07:19]
mircea_popescu: mod6 does tb0t even run private sessions ? [07:20]
mircea_popescu: this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private. [07:20]
* adlai still uses orgmode, to mixed results [07:21]
mircea_popescu: mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee! [07:34]
mircea_popescu: btw BingoBoingo i submit something like "troubled hrc fundraisers despair of ever receiving support from bitcoin, comically look to ven in desperation" or such for the next roundup (sauce http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556416 ) [07:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 16:00 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yGeyv for the lulz [07:37]
shinohai: Can't use BTC because evil Trump uses it, we must "blockchain" instead. [07:38]
* shinohai wonders if CLIT devs are already secretly at work. [07:38]
mircea_popescu: Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. [07:39]
mircea_popescu: shinohai the ven thing, it has nothing to do with blockchain, or with technology generally. it's the funniest thing you ever saw, a sort of etsy-paypal, made by the same sort of stunted minds that tried to push doge. [07:47]
mircea_popescu: buncha mentally retarded but politically ambitious social-pseudosciences types trying to get ahead in the world as best they know how. which somehow, in their broken culture, does not mean twerking, for some reason. [07:48]
shinohai: I was just about to say, it is obvious they will make a pseudo scientific effirt at creating a "cryptocurrency" [07:49]
shinohai: That works exactly like paypal but better! [07:49]
mircea_popescu: maybe they can hire that blonde chick with the alt-eth what was her name [07:49]
shinohai: covertress lol [07:50]
shinohai: They left the eth part of it behind, no more lulz from that camp :( [07:50]
mircea_popescu: lol behind in this context may be misleading. [07:50]
shinohai: lol [07:52]
trinque: https://www.rt.com/news/363256-sweden-returning-terrorists-benefits/ << ""considering giving jihadists returning from Syria and Iraq free housing, a driver’s license, and tax benefits to ease their reintegration" [10:03]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 does tb0t even run private sessions ? << ah, no currently it's just all public facing projects. [10:10]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private. << ah, ok. i'll put some thought into this. [10:10]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee! << yeah, nice! [10:11]
trinque: made great progress last weekend, got the rest of the various services of deedbot broken off into tidy separate projects. [10:12]
mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot. [10:13]
mod6: hmmm. [10:13]
mod6: mornin' btw [10:13]
mod6: heheh [10:13]
trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code. [10:14]
trinque: morning! [10:14]
trinque: !#s one to throw away [10:15]
a111: 4 results for "one to throw away", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=one%20to%20throw%20away [10:15]
trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done [10:19]
trinque: first customer of course being myself [10:20]
mod6: right on [10:21]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ? [10:31]
shinohai: < 24 hrs after hard fork to stop ETH attacks, another attack is ongoing and butterin suggest yet another fork will fix it: http://archive.is/3XcGG [10:43]
mod6: the lels just keep on comin' eh [10:46]
shinohai: I'm actually tired of Qntra'ing it all [10:46]
mod6: well, fortunately qntra pays [11:02]
shinohai: Yeah, hence I don't want to screw up a good thing lol by submitting trash all the time [11:03]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/XIExL [11:06]
asciilifeform: ^ BingoBoingo , qntra ? [11:06]
trinque: pairs nicely with my sweden link [11:09]
trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped ISIS terrorists need moar benefits! [11:10]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> btw BingoBoingo i submit something like "troubled hrc fundraisers despair of ever receiving support from bitcoin, comically look to ven in desperation" or such for the next roundup (sauce http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556416 ) << AHA, it's a firm mebbe for next one. Didn't fit flavor of recent electoral one. [11:10]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 16:00 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yGeyv for the lulz [11:10]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ BingoBoingo , qntra ? << of course [11:11]
asciilifeform: btw, the long-defunkt finn, ilkka kokkarinen, had a mighty interesting explanation of why sweden became a laboratory for cutting edge liberasty [11:12]
BingoBoingo: trinque: Nah, I'll let you write of the sweden [11:12]
asciilifeform: it was officially mythologized as 'nazi reservation' and in need of 'extra cleaning'. [11:12]
BingoBoingo: lol [11:13]
asciilifeform: being the only ~serious industrial country in europe unwrecked by ww2, and full of german sympathizers, it 'musted die' [11:13]
asciilifeform: and so it died. [11:13]
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556732 << grand [11:22]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:19 trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done [11:22]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/d4Kbp << earlier this month... [11:50]
asciilifeform: 'New York City police are looking for whoever draped a gigantic banner featuring a portrait of Russian President Vladimir Putin over the side of the Manhattan Bridge' [11:50]
thestringpuller: and usually people who sell also do not make [12:11]
thestringpuller: UGH. i pooped in the logs. [12:11]
* thestringpuller cleans up the poop...somehow [12:11]
ben_vulpes: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MilagroProposal << i cannot make heads nor tails of this but it smells like bullshit [12:38]
asciilifeform: 'Standards bodies have already begun standardizing various pairing-based schemes. These include the IEEE, ISO, and IETF. Besides identity-based encryption (IBE), the standardized schemes include identity-based signatures, identity-based signcryption, identity-based key establishment mechanisms, and identity-based key distribution for use in multimedia. NIST has also recommended the standardization and adoption of pairing-based crypto [12:39]
asciilifeform: graphic systems for government agencies. In the NIST "Report on Pairing-based Cryptography" issued in February 2015, they state....' --- snore [12:39]
asciilifeform: helpfully labeled nonsense, won't read past ^ [12:40]
asciilifeform: or, actually, grep 'developers' for future-negrate. [12:40]
adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize. [13:23]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556724 << kinda where this is going, chan as a hub for all sorta activity like that. [13:55]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:13 mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556728 << yeah pretty quick moving there too, was just a few days iirc. [13:56]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:14 trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556733 << the race is on, buster. [13:56]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:20 trinque: first customer of course being myself [13:56]
mircea_popescu: but this aside : HAVING the thing there will be very useful for some important areas of republican research. such as the most evident one - malleable computation. (ie, when you somehow structure your code so that others can help but can't discern what they're helping. this may or may not involve a well chosen cipher system). [13:58]
mircea_popescu: the way this shit works is that nothing progresses science quite as much as the idle availability of specific precursors. which is both why alf has a point re the failure of us science and engineering being related to the criminalization of the garage teenager's bombmaking lab as well as to the general idea that "you get to have sex in college". [13:59]
* asciilifeform ftr must point out that state of the art 'hot fusion' is much close to working than malleable-whateverthefucks. [14:02]
asciilifeform: there is a titanic volume of drivel on subj. it is just that. none of any of the schemes i know of, is good for ~anything. [14:03]
mircea_popescu: absolutely tru. [14:03]
mircea_popescu: which is how, from my (unscientific, managerial) experience, notable breakthroughs happen [14:03]
mircea_popescu: when the "adults" have fucked a topic to death to no-one's benefit, and the kids finally get their hands on it. [14:04]
asciilifeform: i would dearly love to meet said 'kids'. [14:04]
mircea_popescu: as per http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/#selection-517.0-519.243 [14:04]
asciilifeform: right now doing crypto-anything is like walking on mars. desert, as far as the eye can see, not even cactus or fly. [14:05]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556735 << mod6's been here since day 1 huh. [14:06]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:31 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ? [14:06]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556736 << the lulz of all time being the "price" and "market cap" as reported by you know, "Exchanges" where this shitstain "is traded" being CONSTANT in the interval. [14:06]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:43 shinohai: < 24 hrs after hard fork to stop ETH attacks, another attack is ongoing and butterin suggest yet another fork will fix it: http://archive.is/3XcGG [14:06]
mircea_popescu: then idiots want to know if mpex is for real. not you know, if nyse & nasdaq are. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: i suppose because it's by now evident they aren't. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556741 << ahaha "fearing ONE DAY it might WEAKEN its control" ? bitch, you lost control, completely, years ago. get lost.\ [14:08]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:06 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/XIExL [14:08]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556744 << the problem of the socialist state is that as it hijacks terminology to try and get an unwilling society to implement its policy, the ACTUAL subjects of the terminology and the PRETENDED subjects of the terminology become disjunct. and so this constant apparent hypocrisy whereby they wish to see diametrically opposed reaction to the same label. [14:10]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:10 trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped ISIS terrorists need moar benefits! [14:10]
mircea_popescu: "drugs are bad mkay take this ritalin" sorta thing. [14:10]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556752 << not a bad theory. [14:11]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:13 asciilifeform: being the only ~serious industrial country in europe unwrecked by ww2, and full of german sympathizers, it 'musted die' [14:11]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "drugs are bad mkay take this ritalin" sorta thing. << Why use the PC name and not call it Kid-amphetamine? [14:11]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc pharmacologically more cocainlike [14:12]
mircea_popescu: no idea. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for that matter, why is it ok for union thug to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy which is called "schooling", but it is not ok for kiddy fucker to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy, which is called "grooming". [14:12]
mircea_popescu: it's ~just as stupid for the kid inquestion to imagine the state is good and paying taxes is not rape as it is for the same kid to imagine whoring is a future plan and so on. [14:13]
mircea_popescu: somehow i'm supposed to take umbrage to brothel-living tween who can't do basic math but i'm supposed to see no problem whatsoever with school-going tween who can't basic math. because reasons. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: as if i actually give a fuck how many dicks it can or does take. [14:14]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Really splits the middle. More like amphetamine though because nearly all its activity is on dopamine and norepinephrine. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556766 << state its math part sometime. [14:15]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 17:23 adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize. [14:15]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because one has visible bleeding from the butt and the other has metaphysical butt bleeding. [14:15]
mircea_popescu: this is a myth, much exactly the same as "masturbation will make you blind". [14:16]
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, used to be good state-science decades ago. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: nowadays the good state-science being, of course, "taking it in the ass and eating a lot of soy won't castrate you". [14:17]
mircea_popescu: bullshit idiots push to those clueless enough to eat it up. [14:17]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/european-central-bank-publicly-leaks-knowledge-of-its-internal-bitcoin-panic/ << Qntra - European Central Bank Publicly Leaks Knowledge Of Its Internal Bitcoin Panic [14:18]
BingoBoingo: Oh, no I mean the physical butt bleeding happens at Union thug schools, because the wider world is merging with the world of James Lafond Presents Baltimore [14:19]
trinque: on that note, last week some mexican dude broke into my sister's neighbor's apt, raped chick inside, tried to kill her. noteworthy cuckland lul of it being that it was his second visit to the property in a month or so. [14:21]
asciilifeform: trinque: i thought texas was a 'empty kalash into breaking door' state..? [14:23]
trinque: texas has the misfortune of having jerbs for the past couple decades. [14:23]
trinque: all sorts of people moving here. [14:23]
trinque: californians have been colonizing Austin in particular [14:24]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Requires a "True Texan"(TM)(R) who actually has kalash [14:24]
asciilifeform: and what, they are ghandians and don't believe in defending self ? [14:24]
trinque: don't ask me I give shotgun shells to unwanted visitors like any gentleman. [14:25]
BingoBoingo: Californian? Yes! They believe in simply staying out of "Bad Neighborhoods" and tiny bottles of OC/CS. [14:25]
asciilifeform: lel [14:25]
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bull [14:26]
a111: 0 results for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bull", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bull [14:26]
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/l26Uw << custom regional lulz for mircea_popescu [14:26]
trinque: hm, that has a result, but wrong one [14:26]
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls [14:26]
a111: 0 results for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bulls [14:26]
trinque: phf: ^ result count busted [14:26]
mircea_popescu: incidentally : it occurs to me we might be well advised to run an advertising campaign along the lines of "No University in the world can rival the Republic's own STEM research lab". [14:56]
mircea_popescu: would this be something teh foundation might consider sponsoring, ben_vulpes mod6 ? [14:56]
mircea_popescu: and any of the marketing minded fellows want to make the website ? [14:56]
mircea_popescu: trinque what do you mean second visit ? like he worked there befoar ? [14:57]
trinque: like he raped there befoar [14:57]
mircea_popescu: so they basically have an ongoing arrangement ? like they do in south africa ? [14:57]
trinque: yeah, seems like he's pretty comfortable coming back to that spot [14:58]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: advertise where? [15:20]
BingoBoingo: University bathroom stalls? [15:23]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. take out a banner in front of ucla ? [15:24]
mircea_popescu: put it on google ads / facebook ads / twitter ads, whatever the fuck. [15:24]
mircea_popescu: go on fiver and pay people to fill the uni campuses with fliers. [15:25]
* mircea_popescu actyually did that last one for http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ just had the article printed and affixed to walls. was pretty lulzy. [15:26]
mircea_popescu: it resulted in 0 press coverage, even from the derpy campus newspapers which evidently have nothing to report on (but hey, socialist butthurt) however it did produce ample fresh beaver supplies, which is what ads are for after all. [15:28]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556829 << thanks for spotting that [15:29]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 18:26 trinque: phf: ^ result count busted [15:29]
phf: which goes back to mp's very wise "don't mess with counts" [15:33]
phf: fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74 [15:46]
phf: !#s from:phf fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74 [15:46]
a111: 2 results for "from:phf fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aphf%20fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74 [15:46]
mircea_popescu: i wrote some code to make the life of eulora players more confusing. i spent half hour writing it and one hour fighting fence errors. [16:32]
phf: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls [16:32]
a111: 1 result for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bulls [16:32]
phf: i'm now explicitly removing query message from results, which i think produces most appropriate counts [16:34]
phf: !#s 3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da [16:34]
a111: 0 results for "3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da [16:34]
mircea_popescu: in other "properly dressed sluts" news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/1c96f67affad9787929e73c6cf27b36f/tumblr_oefajj3I2p1uen6aho1_400.gif [16:35]
BingoBoingo: Lafond goes West http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5478 [16:58]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/wargames/ << Trilema - Wargames [18:06]
* BingoBoingo guesses Trilema review of "manhattan project" is next? [18:49]
shinohai: !!up gabriel_laddel [18:51]
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. [18:51]
gabriel_laddel: phf getting some linux boxen from which to host the #sane-clim / #masamune irc channel + logs either this friday or the next. Any chance you'll be releasing the logger at some point so that I don't have to write my own? [18:51]
phf: check your pm, but since that's a public question, i'll also answere here. i'm not going to go through work of releasing of logger in the immediate future, but i can dedicate some time to making sure logger can attach and track multiple channels, host masamune logs for you. this is aligned with a cleanup work that i was going to do, and i might as well do it next [18:54]
phf: logger right now is a big ball of mud that includes V, parts of bitcoin protocol, logger itself with xref, irc bot and a kitchen sink of entire lisp ecosystem :> [18:56]
shinohai: bit it worx and we love it [18:57]
trinque: gabriel_laddel: offended by postgresql? [18:57]
gabriel_laddel: trinque: nein. whatever you've got to do to use CLIM in the day-to-day is fine with me. [18:58]
trinque: gabriel_laddel: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/ [18:58]
gabriel_laddel: you too see the end game, so I'm happy [18:58]
gabriel_laddel: Oh I see. ty downloading. [18:59]
trinque: and let me know when your IRC is up I'll be joining. [19:00]
trinque: that said if phf is happy to run a logger for you, his own log-viewer is pretty damned fly [19:01]
trinque: my thing has no viewer written [19:01]
trinque: thread reference is going to be indispensible for digestion of the clim-wad [19:03]
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you explored clim2? i'm curious what state it's in. i want to at least try and spin it up on ACL to see how bit rotted it is, what it looks like, etc. i vaguely suspect it might be better clim baseline than mcclim [19:06]
gabriel_laddel: phf: It isn't, though it has implemented every form McCLIM is missing. [19:07]
gabriel_laddel: It has useful comments too, but the CFFI makes it a no-go for me. [19:07]
phf: oh it cffi's to gtk or somesuch? [19:08]
gabriel_laddel: I have nfi, just saw that they utilize a cffi at some point. I interviewed at franz and talked with them about it (this is why it was released?) -- they have no vision and I consider anything they touch to be tainted. [19:09]
gabriel_laddel: Franz Inc. implemented an entirely new CL GUI toolkit on top of windows and pay people to update it when windows updates. [19:10]
gabriel_laddel: This, when they already had a complete clim implementation. [19:10]
trinque: but windows is usg.approved [19:11]
trinque: gabriel_laddel: any idea how many client contracts they survive on? [19:11]
gabriel_laddel: trinque: see your previous message.. [19:11]
trinque: lol [19:11]
gabriel_laddel: yeeeah. [19:12]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah ima do the one where marisa tomei is a stripper next i think [19:12]
gabriel_laddel: http://paste.lisp.org/display/329035 < location of all missing McCLIM forms in the franz codebase if one gets bored. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel prolly best to have both your own logger and a 2nd backup. redundancy ftw. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what do you run, your own ircd or ? [19:15]
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as a "client": kiwiirc on a bad connection, beirc if in the mood or default to emacs "host": nfi, never done it. [19:16]
phf: gabriel_laddel: franz have been living in frontline foxholes since before you knew what a computer was, i don't think masamune is there yet to judge their methods [19:16]
mircea_popescu: uh. i thought you measnt actually hosting the channel. [19:16]
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I will be, but as of yet have not even googled for a guide on how to do so. [19:17]
mircea_popescu: phf he judged it for himself mind, not telling you what to do. [19:17]
gabriel_laddel: phf: what sort of company lives in foxholes for over 25 years?! [19:17]
mircea_popescu: and in the butthurt of all time, trump ahead in polls. o noes. [19:19]
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not telling him what to do either i sometimes rant alongside asciilifeform, but i don't actually think gabriel_laddel should be doing something differently. [19:20]
mircea_popescu: http://www.investors.com/politics/trump-leads-clinton-by-one-point-going-into-debate-in-ibdtipp-tracking-poll/ << first time since june [19:20]
trinque: kek [19:21]
asciilifeform: a weeee bit of book larnin' wouldn't kill'm [19:21]
mircea_popescu: NOBODY WINS THE WAR WITH THE PRESS!111 [19:21]
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel [19:22]
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. [19:22]
mircea_popescu: trump ?! [19:22]
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel [19:23]
gabriel_laddel: ya? [19:23]
mircea_popescu: lol [19:23]
phf: hehehe [19:23]
phf: this is like the three stooges slapstik [19:23]
mircea_popescu: confusion begins here. [19:23]
gabriel_laddel: To answer my own question: living in a foxhole for 25 years turns you into a faggot who thinks oakland is "up and coming" [19:24]
mircea_popescu: depends dood. lenin lived in a swisshole for 30 years. [19:24]
asciilifeform: lieutenant onoda, 40! [19:25]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lulz of all lulz is that well... not only jill stein is poisoning the clinton vote but so is johnson, some-fucking-how. [19:25]
mircea_popescu: apparently in a contest with a popular revolutionary, the best way to lose is to play establishment. everyone eats your vote. [19:25]
mircea_popescu: who could have fucken predicted. [19:25]
gabriel_laddel: The franz "foxhole" == writing parsers for whoever comes along and pays them to do so, failing to exploit the most obvious benefit of lisp, surrendering the whole competitive advantage. [19:26]
mircea_popescu: engineers are particularly prone to this idiocy. [19:29]
mircea_popescu: opengl owned the video market for a decade, did nothing with it so microshit could catch up. [19:29]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, lt onoda died recently. [19:29]
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again? [19:36]
* trinque knows a method that works every time [19:37]
trinque: involves a screwdriver [19:37]
* gabriel_laddel cannot deliver this masamune machine until the wifi works and wtf am I missing here [19:38]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on campus, http://67.media.tumblr.com/777061726100233f0e743ef98e796135/tumblr_oegbe60pFQ1u3425fo1_1280.png [19:40]
mircea_popescu: !!up AforA [19:48]
deedbot: AforA voiced for 30 minutes. [19:48]
AforA: I came here from loper OS. holy hell, wow. I've been wrecking my mind about something awfully similar for /months/ now and only now found this, good lord [19:49]
mircea_popescu: cheers. [19:50]
mircea_popescu: you've got what, 5 years or so of logs to go through now ? [19:51]
mircea_popescu: btw phf did you load the old archives yet ? [19:51]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at lafond getting out of his ditch experiencing "real america". [19:53]
AforA: joined myself to IRC first, orienting now. ) my thinking right now to deal with that amount of data is to shove the entire logs into infranodus.com, but that'll get reevaluate before after I'm done reading the non-log part :) [19:55]
mircea_popescu: which is the non-log part ? [19:55]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556935 [19:56]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:55 mircea_popescu: which is the non-log part ? [19:56]
mircea_popescu: meta! [19:56]
mircea_popescu: AforA i'd certainly give a look at the result of trying to shove the whole 100mb log into that graph thingee because even something relatively simple like say MY wot looks like http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mircea_popescu/ [19:58]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556921 << it is in the l0gz [19:59]
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, lt onoda died recently. [19:59]
mircea_popescu: somehow it hadn't registered [19:59]
asciilifeform: not, strangely, coming up in the search. [19:59]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of btcalpha - is someone gonna redo this plox ? [20:00]
AforA: "graph thingy", that's one hell of an understatement :D [20:00]
asciilifeform: !~seen mike_c [20:00]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: I have not seen mike_c. [20:00]
asciilifeform: never came up for air since the schism, eh [20:00]
mircea_popescu: nope, no answer to email, he's gone. [20:00]
mircea_popescu: a pity too because i really liked the graphing [20:01]
asciilifeform: never popped up on the kakotron either. [20:01]
mircea_popescu: i think he might just be overrun by irl. [20:01]
AforA: oh and where the hell are my manners: thanks for the voice, mircea_popescu :) [20:03]
mircea_popescu: sure. [20:03]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> would this be something teh foundation might consider sponsoring, ben_vulpes mod6 ? << werd. we'll discuss and get back to you. o7 [20:05]
mod6: fwiw, at face value, i like it. [20:06]
mod6: !~tslb [20:06]
jhvh1: mod6: Time since last block: 41 minutes and 23 seconds [20:06]
mircea_popescu: mod6 the main consideration there, strategically, would be that while foundation's conservative finances are certainly the path to victory, the absence of any and all expenditures is probably by now becoming a drag - why'd someone donate his tax dues when the coin is just going to sit ? he might as well donate it mentally and let it sit in his own pocket. sooner or later something will hafta be done, or else why bother. somet [20:08]
mircea_popescu: hing like this has the advantage that it's an entirely uninvesting expenditure (exact opposite of what the faux foundation did with its "hiring" of nsa asset gavin andresen), it commits the foundation to ~nothing and can be discontinued at any point. [20:08]
* asciilifeform thought that the donations would print The B0000k [20:09]
mircea_popescu: well that also, but looks more like 2020. [20:09]
asciilifeform: where is my motherfuckingb00000k [20:09]
asciilifeform: lol [20:09]
mircea_popescu: it's good to be able to say you know, here, we have a track record of usefulness, trust us. [20:09]
mod6: mircea_popescu: a fair point. we have been pretty frugal. we have considered paying for a few things, but they never were fully baked. [20:10]
mod6: asciilifeform: heheh, i thought some guy was gonna print the book for you? [20:10]
mircea_popescu: anyway, for you two to discuss. [20:10]
asciilifeform: lulzily, i did end up printing it personally [20:10]
asciilifeform: on ordinary laser [20:10]
mod6: werd. [20:10]
asciilifeform: and then tearing out chunks of it as i nuked'em [20:10]
mod6: mircea_popescu: makes sense. we'll discuss. [20:11]
mircea_popescu: btw, speaking of mosul & more generally the us inept engagement in the empire's graveyard : anyone know the great story of the faqir of ipi ? [20:11]
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: After doing a bit of gardening this weekend, and the science thereof, I'm a bit disappointed in the all the "cool kids" who made fun of the "Horticulture Kids" [20:14]
AforA: read about the book...romanian? talk about synchronicity, I was just reading this guys work, and it seemed relevant to the point about domain invalidation from V: http://fs.gallup.unm.edu/florentinsmarandache.htm. hm. and as to answer your question mircea: the non-log part being absorbing the website. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: AforA what book is that ? [20:17]
AforA: Asylum - sorry for neglecting to mention that [20:18]
thestringpuller: !~seen shinohai [20:18]
jhvh1: thestringpuller: shinohai was last seen in #trilema 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <shinohai> bit it worx and we love it [20:18]
mircea_popescu: asylum is in english though. [20:19]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo lulz of all lulz is that well... not only jill stein is poisoning the clinton vote but so is johnson, some-fucking-how. << That's been on Qntra for months nao [21:28]
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again? << cut the antenna wires with a pair of Kleins or Dykes? [21:29]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's because they are jealous they don't have an Agri-CULTURE to celebrate [21:31]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/probable-aspect-of-peace-on-earth-arrested-while-the-notorious-quiet-and-tranquility-evades-capture/ << Qntra - Probable Aspect Of Peace On Earth Arrested While The Notorious Quiet And Tranquility Evades Capture [23:39]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5468 [23:39]
BingoBoingo: ty to shinohai for the lead [23:39]
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