Forum logs for 18 Jun 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/bitcoin-network-mining-difficulty-takes-modest-4-85-percent-uptick-to-new-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Mining Difficulty Takes Modest ~4.85 Percent Uptick To New All Time High [00:05]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in today's theme, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0c76d6bf31a35aa19f9a07ca5caf07c9/tumblr_inline_odvi73TNNK1u1xzy9_1280.jpg [10:46]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Kjc0Q/?raw=true <<< My bun in teh oven [10:57]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [10:57]
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai [11:03]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/today-is-the-first-anniversary-of-dao-emptying-ethereum-attack/ << Qntra - Today Is The First Anniversary of "DAO Emptying" Ethereum Attack [11:04]
* shinohai is glad his internet service was restored in time to mark this occasion ..... [11:04]
mircea_popescu: how teh ethereum flies... [11:04]
mircea_popescu: time flies like an arrow, but ether flies like fruit flies. [11:04]
BingoBoingo: TO THE BEETUS! [11:06]
phf: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2017-the-ether-thief/ [12:44]
mircea_popescu: at least it gives the prostitutes something to yak about other than "i has found satoshee" [12:46]
phf: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2017/06/17/curl-doesnt-spew-binary-anymore/ it's for your own good [13:11]
mircea_popescu: binary could scare black chix coding into going back to twerking [13:11]
asciilifeform: curl http://idiocy.gov | /bin/bash still Worx Great!111 tho [13:15]
mircea_popescu: that's really the ony thing you need it for anyway [13:15]
asciilifeform: !~later tell pete_dushenski didja ever get your FG going ?? [14:02]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [14:02]
mircea_popescu: also http://68.media.tumblr.com/16556942b06ccf5916406798e73bf342/tumblr_ns11vzWGJn1u9ayhoo1_1280.jpg [15:04]
mod6: my eyes [15:05]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:05]
mod6: how goes Mr. P.? [15:05]
mircea_popescu: not bad, avtiually [15:06]
mod6: cool. [15:06]
mircea_popescu: howabout yerself [15:09]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: not yet. pretty much struck out on heathen osen (osx and openbsd) and my linuxbox is mid-rebuild. replacing fans and having a hell of a time finding screws that fit the deeper "noctua" units. it's still on the list but not there yet. [15:25]
pete_dushenski: shinohai: thanks for testing! [15:25]
pete_dushenski: in other expanded vocabularies, https://ndews.umd.edu/sites/ndews.umd.edu/files/dea-drug-slang-code-words-may2017.pdf [15:29]
pete_dushenski: gotta get me summa dat booty juice [15:29]
pete_dushenski: "Any early bitcoin miner or investor now has thousands of bitcoins. Most are Chinese. Each 500 bitcoins is $1 million. These “bitcoin whales” are now very wealthy. They would like to reduce their exposure to bitcoin" << bwahaha this is what passes of "op-ed" in non-qntra circles. [15:34]
pete_dushenski: david siegel doesn't provide any reasons why wealthy people want to be poor like him and his readers because he doesn't need to. neither he nor his readers can imagine anyone that doesn't want to be on the forefront of the cryptocurrency revolution JUST LIKE THEM [15:35]
pete_dushenski: speaking of "alts" it somehow escaped my attention until yesterday (or perhaps this particular lulzbit went in one ear and out the other) but did you know that there's no cap on the maximum number of ether ? [15:36]
pete_dushenski: this is worse than doge! [15:37]
mod6: mircea_popescu: ahh good. just made myself a nice ham sandwich. [15:39]
* mod6 loves sandwiches [15:39]
mircea_popescu: hehe i do too [15:39]
pete_dushenski: bogota != bogata https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCnAFZcVoAA5Wzd.jpg [15:42]
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what's the poor schmuck goin to say, "dolalr is worthless and we're all fucked, all hail mp" ? [15:43]
mircea_popescu: he ain't gonna say that. true or not true, he's not saying it. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: there's two kinds of kids on any schoolyard : those who know you're better than them and admit it, and those who know you're better than them and will have to be beaten into shit because of it. [15:44]
pete_dushenski: the third kind is... the better kid. [15:47]
mircea_popescu: discussion was from the perspective of the best kid. [15:47]
mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't "always someone better". rather, there's always a best. [15:48]
pete_dushenski: to be sure. and the rest flows from there. like there's always a peak of a waterfall or the top of a mountain. nature paints certain portraits over and over. [15:50]
mircea_popescu: something like that [15:50]
mod6: pete_dushenski: saw your blog post about how you worked through getpeerinfo - very nice of you to say. :] [15:50]
pete_dushenski: that reminds me... [15:51]
pete_dushenski: !!rated mod6 [15:51]
deedbot: pete_dushenski rated mod6 3 at 2015/12/31 17:23:00 << co-chair of trbf. gentleman. [15:51]
pete_dushenski: !!v 8E18F8A8A92C56898987AD5CA23097B968947FCADD8742BAF86C8955C122CDF8 [15:54]
deedbot: pete_dushenski updated rating of mod6 from 3 to 4 << co-chair of trbf. gentleman and patient preceptor. [15:54]
mod6: Thank you, Sir. [15:55]
mod6: That reminds me too -- I need to go through and cleanout my wot one of these days. [15:55]
mod6: I'll try to get that done this week. [15:56]
pete_dushenski: mhm same here. ima do a few right now. [15:56]
pete_dushenski: !!v 5AFC115B1ECBBFC225FC533E0C930F22BD3101D18E3AC9E66E86CF8D33FB4B0A [15:56]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated assbot. [15:56]
mircea_popescu: and in other heave ho, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0ea2cd2db7dabd83315e29dc91f699ed/tumblr_n076qcU9th1tnale6o1_400.gif [15:58]
pete_dushenski: !!unrate 9DC8B9DF2DC3B806D842E8F40DF41E9E4C18316396CCA000D1A8873BA917010A [15:59]
deedbot: 9DC8B9DF2DC3B806D842E8F40DF41E9E4C18316396CCA000D1A8873BA917010A is not registered in WoT. [15:59]
shinohai: Gah I need to do wot updates too ... been wellover a year [15:59]
pete_dushenski: !!v 9DC8B9DF2DC3B806D842E8F40DF41E9E4C18316396CCA000D1A8873BA917010A [15:59]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated kingking190. [15:59]
pete_dushenski: !!v 678AE4B25756AA9631C487961651F05A1DF248F298CFC54369DF32F1858A0BFD [16:01]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated punkman. [16:01]
pete_dushenski: !!v 421F1F5279BF37390451C221080334B1718E536B88B600B56A33548664FEEE22 [16:02]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated thenewdeal. [16:02]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-18-jun-2017#2297166 << paging BingoBoingo!111! [16:02]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-18 19:58 mircea_popescu: and in other heave ho, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0ea2cd2db7dabd83315e29dc91f699ed/tumblr_n076qcU9th1tnale6o1_400.gif [16:02]
pete_dushenski: !!v 223525AAA2EBAB43902A75A9EB0422770BA94CFFF6E925BEA5D2FBCB0CBBFF0F [16:03]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated mike_c. [16:03]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-18#1671888 << oughta ask phf, perhaps he has this pill ( iirc has both openbsd and crapple in active use ) [16:04]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-18 19:25 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: not yet. pretty much struck out on heathen osen (osx and openbsd) and my linuxbox is mid-rebuild. replacing fans and having a hell of a time finding screws that fit the deeper "noctua" units. it's still on the list but not there yet. [16:04]
pete_dushenski: worth a shot. [16:04]
asciilifeform: alsoo pete_dushenski you can use selftapping woodscrews [16:05]
pete_dushenski: !!v 65860A96E83EAC6E450413BC75BE41FDF771A9B77CDBEB64A8C6BC928B995008 [16:05]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated williamdunne. [16:05]
shinohai: http://ethosdistro.com/ <<< I did not know this monstrosity existed [16:05]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: now there's an idea! [16:06]
asciilifeform: enlarge hole in chassis as needed [16:07]
pete_dushenski: !!v 5D485EEB624F2912DDC34157DE64CC5392A70FDDF2FBB30891DE01803C47CBDA [16:07]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated fluffypony. [16:07]
pete_dushenski: !!v 98E04B9D0E92310A0342DB3E5697F4CA4C04C0608038ED99FB56640A57599CCC [16:08]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated funkenstein_. [16:08]
pete_dushenski: !!v 1AA7E2493084C8FB44A77463BE4FA54BCED05C7CDA3D9698D796FD829563DF4D [16:09]
deedbot: pete_dushenski rated deedbot 10 << primer inter pares [16:09]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-18#1671900 << every time i see these, immediately think of those ww2 'surrender nao' leaflets [16:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-18 19:43 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what's the poor schmuck goin to say, "dolalr is worthless and we're all fucked, all hail mp" ? [16:09]
pete_dushenski: !!v 63B3155CD611A4F42C7CD2EA4330351F102EBE5DFBB73D5FA1FF2A4E1820CC55 [16:10]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated bitstein. [16:10]
pete_dushenski: !!v A2235D98480368A728712BB8ED998651116F8D556183FBC6CCCD64462FF516A6 [16:11]
deedbot: pete_dushenski unrated nanotube. [16:11]
pete_dushenski: !!v 99008777A88EAB3794F0927AEEF9641F30D3C128CE6E24BF6440993E68D2D23E [16:15]
deedbot: pete_dushenski rated Framedragger 2 << literate beyond his years but still a green shoot. [16:15]
mircea_popescu: i think a more apt misspelling would have been dlolar [16:18]
pete_dushenski: !!v 13EAFE262A55E60E4595D21522C895E088B9B4154B2481F9FB5D408C00071705 [16:19]
deedbot: pete_dushenski updated rating of BingoBoingo from 2 to 3 << sober yarn-spinner and green thumb. [16:19]
pete_dushenski: !!v 63E8B34600E8E0BF1D5BD75E0C49643A11D16BD6C900CCBDAD3735A82B583459 [16:21]
deedbot: pete_dushenski rated phf 2 << deliberate burner. [16:21]
pete_dushenski: that should do for now. log spam over for today. [16:22]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the rancho, http://68.media.tumblr.com/2491ae09fbc9361bd6075e778b5be581/tumblr_inline_odvi78kjch1u1xzy9_1280.jpg [16:24]
pete_dushenski: bbl. all these preggos are reminding me that it's father's day. [16:26]
asciilifeform: in other olds, ''Whilst making love a necklace broke. / A row of pearls mislaid. / One sixth fell to the floor. / One fifth upon the bed.' [16:33]
mircea_popescu: "and nineteen down her throat" [16:34]
asciilifeform: ( from 'Lilavati', c. 1150 ad, Colebrook transl., ) [16:34]
asciilifeform: ( http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Biographies/Bhaskara_II.html << subj, for the intrepid ) [16:38]
asciilifeform: 'Lilavati was the name of Bhaskaracharya's daughter. From casting her horoscope, he discovered that the auspicious time for her wedding would be a particular hour on a certain day. He placed a cup with a small hole at the bottom of the vessel filled with water, arranged so that the cup would sink at the beginning of the propitious hour. [16:48]
asciilifeform: When everything was ready and the cup was placed in the vessel, Lilavati suddenly out of curiosity bent over the vessel and a pearl from her dress fell into the cup and blocked the hole in it. The lucky hour passed without the cup sinking. Bhaskaracharya believed that the way to console his dejected daughter, who now would never get married, was to write her a manual of mathematics!' [16:49]
phf: neat [16:50]
mircea_popescu: the stories of people who cared too much. [16:58]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, now that makes me curious just how much is too much and how much is perfectly fine and how much is too little [17:04]
diana_coman: might as well say people who cared. [17:04]
mircea_popescu: you only find out when you die. [17:04]
asciilifeform: esp in re monarch's marriageable children [17:04]
diana_coman: now if you care about that when you die that is indeed too much, lol [17:05]
diana_coman: leftover care - becomes active at last minute [17:05]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman when i was about three, they took me to a doctor. it was like a kinda mysterios affair, and it made no sense as i was not sick. the doctor asked me what do i do if i'm hungry ? and i told him i eat. he then asked me what do i do if i'm sleepy, and i said i go to bed. that was it, and everyone was impressed because apparently no fucking kids ever have any sense left. [17:05]
mircea_popescu: nor, for that matter, indians of a millenium ago. [17:05]
mircea_popescu: if you get aroused, fuck. what the fuck is a marriage to begin with, let alone "propitious hours" bullshit. [17:06]
mircea_popescu: you'll know after you're spent if it was going to be any good or not. never before. [17:06]
diana_coman: uhm, the doctor story is weird re impressed but maybe that was the point of the visit for all I know [17:08]
mircea_popescu: at the time they did this "normal development" visit with kids. [17:08]
mircea_popescu: from birth to about 2 or 3, something like that. [17:08]
asciilifeform: afaik the ancients actually bought the 'propitious time' thing. it was as real to them as 'launch at the right transit time of the orbits' is to modern rocketeer [17:08]
diana_coman: so if they were impressed it follows it wasn't normal? lolz [17:08]
mircea_popescu: yes, sanity is abnormal now. [17:09]
mircea_popescu: and since about the invention of writing, so every perverse tard can note down his insanity for later perverse tards to apply. [17:09]
mircea_popescu: mathematics manuals and whatnot. [17:09]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually $subj is pretty good manual. beat the living shit out of what europe had going at the time ( and until end of 16th c, in some aspects ) [17:10]
mircea_popescu: but let the record reflect that it strikes me as the height of batshit insane psychosis to fail to fuck and then misappropriate mathematics into one's psychosis. [17:10]
diana_coman: I suspect every hole in knowledge (and not only that) might look like... insanity to those who ...simply have a better plug not even a full plug, just better [17:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe. [17:10]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and to those who have ~worse~ plug also.. [17:10]
mircea_popescu: aha! [17:10]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, indeed [17:10]
mircea_popescu: but seriously, wtf knowledge is it needed to stuff the plug into the prelubricated hole ? [17:11]
mircea_popescu: fucking puppies manage to figure it out eventually. [17:11]
asciilifeform: overabundance of options breeds divinations. [17:11]
asciilifeform: ('how do i pick?!!!') [17:11]
mircea_popescu: should have written her a manual on buridan's ass. [17:12]
asciilifeform: and buridaning. [17:12]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this idea that go fuck woman of centuries ago and get yourself pregnant and oh, no worries,what [17:12]
asciilifeform: lol mircea_popescu beat me to it. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: could have simply consisted of "proasta pulii ce esti tu, mori de nefutai inecata in supa de pule." [17:12]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i know of no culture outside of the chtonic-inspired anglos who deemed pregnancy as a negative. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: "you'll get pregnant, good for you, it means your innards work." [17:13]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect - unrelated. think, king has 1 daughter, 'fuck, how do i spend this one torpedo' [17:13]
diana_coman: ugh, in the right conditions though, not exactly in all cases [17:14]
diana_coman: honour deaths and all that are not anglo-thing [17:14]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform moreover, i am not familiar with the story, nor with the culture, likely reading too much / wrong things into it. [17:14]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman indians tho, these aren't wanna-be anglo muslims. [17:14]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 1source of the story seems to be the farsi translator (16th c) of the text [17:15]
asciilifeform: who could have easily pulled it from own arse [17:15]
asciilifeform: so there's that. [17:15]
diana_coman: I kind of doubt the story is *true* as such, so there is that [17:16]
mircea_popescu: it's annoying to high heavens. it's one thing to show up at your wedding and go "what a great day for a wedding, let's have two!" and force your first maid into marriage with some randomlty chosen guy. it's the same thing to say "fuck this shit, i don't feel like getting married today, go home all of youze". [17:16]
mircea_popescu: it is ANOTHER thing to go on about how the cups told you what to do and the spirits and the moasa-sa pe gheata. [17:16]
diana_coman: I can't say I studied the time+culture of the guy to know, perhaps mircea_popescu knows better what he is talking about it sounds really highly unlikely to me that it was the case that woman could just go and fuck, hurray, but whatevers [17:17]
mircea_popescu: and i dun care for the another thing at all. [17:17]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yet stories of 'the cups told' abound [17:17]
asciilifeform: somehow it's an attractor. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman who was gonna keep her ? [17:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes because the human cattle aspires to one thing above all, and that is to be relieved of the downside of agency while getting to keep on the sly as much as possible of the upside. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: and this is also the root and beginning of all insanity. [17:18]
diana_coman: that's the thing: she had value, not to be wasted /given away to any bum who s/he fell like fucking on the day [17:18]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so let her father bring men home rather than write inept shit (which nevertheless was better than whatever europe had, or kamchatka for that matter, peninsulae nobody heard of) [17:19]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alt-hypothesis -- princess ugly, 'cup system' -- rationalization of the 0 bidders... [17:20]
diana_coman: I really think you are reading too much into it the way I see the thing it's basically a dedication inept like all dedications if analysed but wtf is there to analyse in the first place [17:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they all grip the same from behind. ugly prevented no princess to date. [17:20]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yeah prolly. i just don't like it. [17:20]
diana_coman: ahahah asciilifeform might have it maybe not ugly but barren [17:20]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lesse what BingoBoingo says re whether ~all~ 'princesses' 'grip the same from behind' [17:21]
asciilifeform: 'cause i can think of a few, linked, that might not.. [17:21]
mircea_popescu: nah cuz the vessel comes with a seal (and yes, the inspiration for babylonian trade, the seals, and amphorae was DEFINITELY the cunt). you can claim it wasn't tried or that it didn't work, these aren't confoundable. [17:21]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't have the tech to produce mcdonalds princesses in 1100 india. [17:22]
diana_coman: sure just that you don't claim *in writing* that it didn't work, lel [17:22]
asciilifeform: 'removal of seal voids warranty!' [17:22]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they did have the pox tho [17:22]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman there is that i guesd [17:22]
diana_coman: at asciilifeform's link it even says it might have been his wife, not his daughter - so maybe it was more of a consolation/precisely the dedication thing I was saying earlier: too busy to fuck, I wrote this book [17:23]
mircea_popescu: he prolly said the same to the harem girls, also. [17:24]
diana_coman: sure, what of it all of them were L-whatevers [17:24]
mircea_popescu: but, if the lived experience of ghandi is any guide, the classical indians did not very pointedly distinguish daughters from wives. [17:24]
asciilifeform: 'lilavati' seems to translate simply as 'she-playful-one' [17:24]
asciilifeform: so fuck all knows. [17:24]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have doubts that they ran a closed-arsemouth production cycle. it'd show today. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: doesn't it ? [17:25]
asciilifeform: nein [17:26]
mircea_popescu: how many intelligent indians do you know ? and how many bagawan what's his face, the inept chicago "professor" [17:26]
asciilifeform: the brahmins, by and large, have working heads. [17:26]
mircea_popescu: name one. [17:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your hindus are dalits [17:26]
mircea_popescu: name an intelligent indian omfg. [17:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bose [17:26]
asciilifeform: ramachandran [17:27]
asciilifeform: do i have to keep going ? [17:27]
mircea_popescu: the national front dood ?! [17:27]
asciilifeform: there's no shortage [17:27]
asciilifeform: nope [17:27]
asciilifeform: j.c bose [17:27]
asciilifeform: microwave transceivers in motherfucking 1880s [17:27]
asciilifeform: complete with waveguides [17:27]
mircea_popescu: aaa that bose. [17:27]
asciilifeform: yes what other bose, lel [17:27]
mircea_popescu: are bengalis indians ? [17:28]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was some nazi ally dude tryting to outs the british cca 1940s [17:28]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gandi? [17:28]
asciilifeform: lel [17:28]
mircea_popescu: nonono, subhas bose [17:28]
asciilifeform: aah yeah tru [17:28]
asciilifeform: there's even a bose in usa, possibly alive today, sold overprices stereos [17:29]
mircea_popescu: well in that sense there's also a mr haagen-dazs. hangs out with mr r mcd. [17:29]
asciilifeform: ( among owners reputed to stand for Buy Other Stereo Equipment ! ) [17:29]
* asciilifeform worked with both kinds of india, for many many years. can distinguish 'brahmin or not' in ~3min of conversation [17:31]
asciilifeform: the folx asking on 'shit overflow' re 'how do i make for loop plz dear Sir help' are the... other kind [17:32]
mircea_popescu: my exposure has been minimal. [17:32]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the working-head hindus you might conceivably run into outside of india, were pushed out in 1970s-80s 'red' phase, when untouchables took over academia and had a sort of american-style 'diversity' shitfest [17:33]
asciilifeform: was not a massive wave of emigration, tho, not like j00z from su [17:34]
mircea_popescu: which has succeeded in one aspect : i see india, generally speaking, as a sort of latrine. probably because of these. [17:34]
asciilifeform: by and large, india today ain't exporting the j.c.bose's, no. [17:35]
mircea_popescu: but, honestly, there's older beefs. srsly, schmucks had steel in 900 and never made tanks ? why ? [17:35]
asciilifeform: same reason as china [17:35]
asciilifeform: turns out steel ain't enough, you also need to give half a shit [17:35]
mircea_popescu: yes, well, good thing they were writing complicated "thank you for your leadership" pieces of maculature! [17:36]
mircea_popescu: fucking us congress, going for 1500 years. blergh. [17:36]
asciilifeform: the 'technology' of the latter, is afaik still virginal subject ( unlike metallurgy ) [17:36]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: china went for, what, 5k yrs, same [17:36]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think the discussion has uncovered why exactly it is my bristles stand up. it'd be one thing if a sane place with a sane culture with respectable people churned out a "hey, chick didn't get married because the cups lolz" thing. THEN it would be funny. [17:37]
mircea_popescu: but when india's involved it's not funny just like tuberculosis cough's not funny. [17:37]
asciilifeform: hey, greeks also had oracles etc [17:38]
mircea_popescu: and with them it's almost tolerable. [17:39]
* asciilifeform brb [17:39]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-pulation-and-other-biodiversities/ << Trilema - The Pulation and other biodiversities. [18:14]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform they didn't have the tech to produce mcdonalds princesses in 1100 india. << McDonalds or not, Beetus tends to run strong in Indian populations. Perhaps cow-ban is in response to earlier Mc-Hamplanet crisis on subcontinent? [19:24]
mircea_popescu: what's cow gonna do ? diabetes == vegetarian diet [19:24]
* asciilifeform back from lugging 30kg of b000kz 4km in swampfuckistan heat, lol [19:27]
mircea_popescu: lol sold car got lawnmoer ? [19:29]
asciilifeform: lol [19:29]
asciilifeform: and realized, while doing this, that in fact you don't need 2k+2 bits for the karatsuba intermediates, you can do instead of (x0+x1)*(y0+y1) , (x0-x1)*(y0-y1), and then you don't need to propagate carries, but only take absolutevalue and xor the borrows to see if gotta invert the resulting term [19:30]
mircea_popescu: check it out, lowly labour is good for oyu [19:31]
asciilifeform: and then i look in shitpile of paperz and find that some d00d actually did this, called it 'subtractive karatsuba', used in some microcontroller, [19:31]
asciilifeform: but... get this : [19:31]
asciilifeform: STILL NOT IN CONSTANT TIME because apparently mother dropped him as a child [19:31]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: getting up from the terminal on occasion is good for people, it is one of the reasons asciilifeform doesn't hurry to automate various chores [19:32]
mircea_popescu: aha [19:32]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's cow gonna do ? diabetes == vegetarian diet << Cow competes for carbs, hard to do if burger [19:34]
mircea_popescu: the way to end up usflated is a) margerine (gunks up the fat cycle, body ends up dependent on citric cycle for energy) + processed starches (hfcs, potato, whatever) [19:37]
mircea_popescu: add various complex toxins in there for spice, and you got it. [19:38]
asciilifeform: don't forget not-walking [19:38]
asciilifeform: ~nonnegotiable ingredient in 'ham planet' [19:38]
mircea_popescu: nah, actually, that gets taken care of "by itself" [19:38]
asciilifeform: waiwat [19:38]
mircea_popescu: eater of linoleum + soda water CAN'T walk, want to or no. [19:39]
mircea_popescu: his metabolism costs about 160% what it costs in normal people, and that's it. [19:39]
asciilifeform: there is something to this. asciilifeform usedto wurk with a buncha american d00dz, not all of whom even fatter than asciilifeform !, and they would not hear of the idea of ~walking~ to restaurant <1km from office [19:40]
mircea_popescu: there's no spare energy for such stuff. [19:40]
mircea_popescu: let alone any intensive bouts of thinking. [19:40]
* asciilifeform is not a thin man but can walk dawn - midnight noprob [19:41]
mircea_popescu: with books even! [19:42]
asciilifeform: books, toolz, etc [19:42]
asciilifeform: sometimes also perversities (e.g. today found very nice shop lamp , of a 1950s type i already have, and picked up... walked with that) [19:42]
asciilifeform: the kind that had the transformer in the base [19:43]
* asciilifeform finally cut down the last motherfucking green hell [20:19]
shinohai: !~ticker --market all [20:29]
jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2536.22, vol: 9298.58367092 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2482.001, vol: 5980.55088 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2520.1, vol: 19721.37517408 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2769.525864, vol: 8377.74000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2538.494, vol: 7031.98497136 | Volume-weighted last average: 2562.57176279 [20:29]
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