Forum logs for 16 Apr 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
phf: bvt: << "can to be implemented" "layouts textual strings"(?) [04:19]
diana_coman: trinque: is deedbot down? [08:00]
trinque: thanks all. [09:37]
asciilifeform: grr loox like we missed today's mp_en_viaje [11:39]
* asciilifeform wonders re status of the 'escape from fleanode' proj.. [11:40]
asciilifeform: mod6 et al ^ ? [11:40]
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf wouldja be willing to stand up a logger instance for #pizarro ? appears that ben_vulpes and his bot, may have been lost at sea or whoknows [12:55]
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [12:55]
mp_en_viaje: << sorry about the whole not working out, btw. eminently not your fault. [14:11]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-15 21:30 bvt: the only smaller item in my pipeline is unrolling comba for ch10 multiplication and i'd like to give a shot a 'kill /dev/random and /dev/urandom' experiment, replacing them with buffers than can be directly fed from userspace, but this - even later. [14:11]
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 20:07 mircea_popescu: bvt, so put the matter to him plainly, "look, the republic is considering this, either come over and make your case or what d oyou want to do" ? [14:11]
* asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje [14:12]
mp_en_viaje: how goes it ? [14:12]
asciilifeform: 18c [14:13]
asciilifeform: and you, mp_en_viaje ? [14:13]
mp_en_viaje: been walking about budapest all day. [14:13]
mp_en_viaje: hungarians are fucking insufferable, for the most part. [14:13]
asciilifeform: why's this ? [14:13]
mp_en_viaje: they are geometrically challenged in a manner quite reminiscent of their sad lang. i am starting to suspect the distance between euclidean geometry and what's going on in hungarian skull is commensurate with distance between human lang and their finougric atrocity. [14:15]
BingoBoingo: Few handicaps as bad a sadlang [14:15]
asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not know hungarian, but was under impression that it was a full-featured lang with 20-sumthing cases etc [14:15]
BingoBoingo: As evidenced by the javascript brain cancer [14:16]
mp_en_viaje: can't park, can't drive, can't fucking walk, all sorrts of common sense items ("no, do NOt drive right into a main lane from the side street to the point of near collision after which suddenly and unexpectedly back away at speed towards a crosswalk") do not come naturally to them. [14:16]
mp_en_viaje: saw three separate road incidents avoided by the grace of the wounds of saint francis only while watching hanbot and 15 our of 18 possible people get into each other's way and so on. [14:17]
asciilifeform: so far the only folx i met who ~can~ park properly, are (oddly enuff) the americans [14:17]
mp_en_viaje: zee germans park fine. [14:17]
asciilifeform: aa but i not yet met'em [14:17]
* asciilifeform believes [14:17]
mp_en_viaje: and then the sirens all the time. at some point i was like "turn that shit OFF!!!" [14:18]
mp_en_viaje: (unsurprising to anyone with me, the siren shut up instantly. i can turn off sirens by yelling!) [14:18]
BingoBoingo: I don't think I here sirens here more than weekly or biweekly [14:18]
asciilifeform: 'some may have escaped from the siren's song, but from their silence -- no one'(tm)(r) lol [14:19]
mp_en_viaje: something like two dozen separate blarings, i mean gimme a fucking break, there can't be that many emergencies [14:19]
mp_en_viaje: o wait, geometrically challenged people... [14:19]
mp_en_viaje: as i write this, i'm seated in a non-square room. [14:19]
mp_en_viaje: in fact, it has 17 edges. [14:20]
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought this was common in old europistan [14:20]
mp_en_viaje: not THAT common. [14:20]
mp_en_viaje: anyway, also had a palinkaoff, ima post pictures i think. [14:21]
asciilifeform: wassat? [14:21]
mp_en_viaje: when you order all the palinka in the menu [14:21]
asciilifeform: a [14:21]
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, yes, somehow spatial navigation schelling points common to all other humans aint obvious to hungarians. [14:22]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is this 1st time you went there ? or did they fughet how to spatian since n-1 ? [14:23]
asciilifeform: *spatial [14:23]
mp_en_viaje: other than this, the chicks are often even tall, and commonly cute -- except if you beheaded a hundred or two alongside another hundred or two 13 yo boys and sewed the heads back on randomly you could scarcely tell the difference. [14:24]
mp_en_viaje: what's the point of being a 5"9 female if you're gonna carry less ass than me ?! [14:24]
BingoBoingo: More stairs! [14:24]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, haven't been here in almost 20 years i dun recall this problem, but then again.... [14:25]
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i fear it's the genes. [14:25]
mp_en_viaje: all these annoying b cup euro tits, too. 24yo pubescentitis [14:26]
mp_en_viaje: b shouldn't even be a cup. [14:27]
mp_en_viaje: << ships was cedar not oak. [14:29]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-15 22:10 asciilifeform: bvt: i dun expect any oak. for 1 thing, most of the old-growth wood of the kind which built the great cathedrals, sailing ships, etc. is gone. [14:29]
mp_en_viaje: and yes, gone since 2 centuries ago [14:29]
mp_en_viaje: large part of why move to ironclads. "dood... cedar's gone" [14:29]
asciilifeform: there's still cedar in ru far east iirc [14:29]
mp_en_viaje: possibru. but greeks used lebanose [14:29]
mp_en_viaje: the cedars of lebanon [14:29]
asciilifeform: ( recall the story where jp in '90s bought entire steamer of old sovok bottle crates. for the cedar ) [14:29]
* BingoBoingo in a country where large forests are claimed to be a recent (late 80's) invention. [14:33]
BingoBoingo: No appreciable hydrocarbons in the ground so they started planting Eucalyptus in 1989. For the estufas de leña though paper mills followed the forresting [14:35]
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in France [15:34]
mp_en_viaje: wtf is a case of "presumed" rape. [15:37]
feedbot: << Qntra -- Google Hit With Multi Million Dollar Cleanup Fee After Withdrawing Experimental Fiber Service From Louisville [15:37]
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The old man clearly was predatory to the vulnerable young man... Femstate means if a young buck has any color on him his agency is female. [15:40]
mp_en_viaje: yeah but i mean... [15:48]
BingoBoingo: Well, don't think of it as any France you've read about. Think about it as a US college campus post 2015 [15:53]
mp_en_viaje: evidently. [15:57]
BingoBoingo: Maybe Notre Dame didn't want to be what France became anymore and went the "an hero" route [15:59]
asciilifeform: re fiber -- good % of usa is still using modem over copper. somewhere near zimbabwe level of net pipe service, overall. [16:02]
asciilifeform: if you want fiber, it's 100+/mo for ~minimal~ bw , and then only in (small %) of the habitable coasts [16:03]
asciilifeform: none of the stated excuses really pass laugh test, either ( 'ohnoez, expensive to rip up asphalt' -- but they do it all year long, for 0 actual reason, largely to keep up 'road work doubles traffic fines' thing they have going in many states ) [16:05]
BingoBoingo: There's outposts in the interior with fiber, but the demographics gotta be right [16:06]
BingoBoingo: That particular example hangs their fiber on the light poles [16:06]
mp_en_viaje: i got fiber ~free [16:07]
mp_en_viaje: 5eur/mo [16:07]
mp_en_viaje: 1gbit [16:08]
asciilifeform: ^ was the advertised rate on the billboards in timis iirc [16:08]
mp_en_viaje: pretty much all of yurp. the german rings [16:08]
mp_en_viaje: legend has it they're as thick as a subway tunnel [16:08]
* mp_en_viaje is preparing another photopost [16:09]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: these iirc tend to be dug along side railroad right-of-way. in europistan, a++. in ameristan, on other hand.. [16:09]
* asciilifeform bbl:tea [16:12]
mp_en_viaje: btw, in other mp disposes, the world executes : been changing dough all over without any id. germany usd to eur ("do you need id ?" "nah" "can you do 5k ?" "if that's what you want..."), hungary eur to huf, you name it. [16:26]
mp_en_viaje: people could give less of a shit about the retarded states of america and its pompous pretense, somehow, maybe. not sure how exactly. [16:27]
feedbot: << Trilema -- Budapest and such [16:48]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: oddly enuff in ro 100% asked for passport ( whether this is always, or simply cuz asciilifeform looked like rube -- nfi ) [17:26]
asciilifeform: iirc in BingoBoingostan ditto [17:29]
BingoBoingo: I've never been asked for ID at a Cambio to change currency either direction [18:08]
BingoBoingo: "Me gustaría pesos" (hands cash, recieves other cash) [18:08]
asciilifeform: possibly i fughet [18:35]
asciilifeform: but in ro defo was [18:35]
mod6: << Hi there! A brief synopsis of what I've been working on with my limited time over the last couple of weeks here Read-up about ave1's GNAT, built it, deployed to cuntoo successfully, a blog post is forthcoming as a bit of a summary of what I did there. [20:18]
a111: Logged on 2019-04-16 15:40 asciilifeform wonders re status of the 'escape from fleanode' proj.. [20:18]
mod6: Read through and digested the first chapter of ffa, just need to add my seal to your blog when I have a spare few minutes. Regarding the irc stuffs, I've one time, stood up a ircd-hybrid and connected it to a friends of the same as a "peer". [20:18]
mod6: This was like, twenty years ago or some such thing. [20:18]
mod6: I did recently stand up an ircd-ratbox (last month), but I was not thinking about it with any sense. [20:18]
mod6: I did a very shallow dive on what "bridging" is about, conceptually about a week ago. Since I'm way out of my depth on this one, I haven't reached out to anyone on Undernet yet, just because when I do, I would like to have some idea of what I'm talking about. [20:19]
mod6: There are probably others in the Republic more versed in these things, but I'll still try to learn more about it this month regardless. [20:19]
asciilifeform: neato mod6 . possibly i misaddressed the q , and it was someone else who was working on this, i gotta look again in the log [20:19]
mod6: This month has been insane-level busy for me, but I'll try to get my head around it by month-end so I can speak to the topic intelligently. [20:19]
mod6: asciilifeform: You may be correct. trinque and I were discussing it, there may have been others. Just wanted the republic to know that I didn't vaporize, nor forget. [20:20]
asciilifeform: ty for update, mod6 . re ffa -- dun hesitate to ask q if you found anyffin to be unclear [20:22]
mod6: *nod* will do! [20:22]
mod6: Did build keccak vtools on cuntoo, whole ffa tree verifies there. pressed just through chapter 1, did a gprbuild on that first chapter, no errors, works great. [20:23]
mod6: 'tis all I've got for the moment. Will holler if I've got any Q's or comments. o7 [20:23]
trinque: much as I'd like to put all the blame on fleanode, I'd like it if the bot handled this stuck state a bit better. it's still on my todo list to address. [21:51]
trinque: at the very least, to come up with a model for wtf occurs. [21:51]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, ro is pretty retarded. [23:34]
mp_en_viaje: trinque, i suppose one possible approach, in desperation of anythingelse, would be the brit's "nuclear security" protocol of checking for bbc keks. [23:37]
mp_en_viaje: deedbot could see if any of the other bots respond. [23:37]
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