Forum logs for 15 Aug 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well they are in 18th century. [00:12]
mircea_popescu: except with ipads instead of crystal balls [00:12]
mod6: <+thestringpuller> mod6: hitman has taught me that a lot of accidents in the world may not have been accidents << aha, 'tis a great game isn't it? [00:35]
mircea_popescu: so if one googles "sandra milo ass", as one legitimately would after watching la visita, one finds naught but and such inept shit. [00:38]
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened to sandra milo's ass! [00:38]
asciilifeform: << lulz in the commentz [00:46]
BingoBoingo: And the meat of the Dicamba saga ends, all that's left is gloating and epitaphs [00:49]
deedbot: << Qntra - Dicamba Disaster Continues Destruction [00:50]
BingoBoingo: updated with fxs [00:55]
asciilifeform: in other oldz, << 'nobody foresaw!!1111' [00:55]
BingoBoingo: attn danielpbarron shinohai and other tweetmailers [01:06]
BingoBoingo: later tell covertress once again your thing was beat by an altcorn for media attention [01:07]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [01:07]
deedbot: << Bingo Blog - A Tale Of Two Papers [01:59]
BingoBoingo: [02:01]
BingoBoingo: In other PGP short id collisions [02:16]
mircea_popescu: << why isn't zooko in the wot, incidentally! [08:11]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 04:46 asciilifeform: << lulz in the commentz [08:11]
mircea_popescu: anyway. gathering some data would lead us to FIRST think about "disease, poverty war". THEN after we've grown out of kindergarten and its infantile emotional responses, it would lead us to think about our priors, such as "Every life is sacred", and so on. [08:12]
mircea_popescu: where by so on i mean truly basic stuff such as "what happens to a tub when you open the faucets and plug the drain ???" [08:12]
mircea_popescu: and then szabo goes on to hurr while blogging on google's platform. sigh. [08:13]
mircea_popescu: << i dun think ina grigg has enough study under this belt to produce usable overview studies on such matters. [08:21]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 04:55 asciilifeform: in other oldz, << 'nobody foresaw!!1111' [08:21]
mircea_popescu: his intentions may be, as declared, good, or just as well as undeclared ill but in any case his perspective is misalligned. [08:21]
mircea_popescu: dude fucking twitter is unreadable now. most of the screen is a "promoted tweet" which 1) has exactly nothing to do with anything and 2) is exactly the sort of slimy, anticool, "here's me being sexy - with a hoodie" stupidity. it's like all the girls that dedicated their adolescence to "abstinence only" moved on to "corporate advertising / governance" or some shit. [08:34]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i had to unfollow George Takei cause I think he's just being paid by blog spammers to post blog spam. [08:59]
mircea_popescu: taki you mean ? [08:59]
thestringpuller: dont even need to promote tweets if lame (but somehow "popular") celebrities will devolve to pederasty and shill [08:59]
mircea_popescu: is this the guy with the story about how he fucked a 16yo french girl on the riviera because at the time ? [09:00]
thestringpuller: << nah the asian dude from the original star trek that came out as being gay a few years back and became a public figurehead for the US gay community [09:01]
thestringpuller: but d00d posts way too much blog spam [09:01]
thestringpuller: Nimoy was the only one who posted anything interested out of Shatner, Takei and himself, but he dead now. [09:02]
mircea_popescu: ah [09:03]
asciilifeform: << Use Moar Shitmail!1111 [09:07]
asciilifeform: ('veracrypt' is apparently the umpteenth reincarnation of 'truecrypt') [09:09]
mircea_popescu: motherfucker [09:10]
mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform can you find the first reference for "star pattern" ? [09:10]
asciilifeform: hmm [09:11]
mircea_popescu: there's but i suspect that was earlier. [09:11]
a111: Logged on 2015-02-03 23:23 mircea_popescu: "why vote for women ? because if women spend more time talking to the state and less talking to their husbands, the state will be stronger and society weaker" [09:11]
asciilifeform: << [09:12]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:50 mircea_popescu: the socialist state does not want a normally functioning society, but instead this stellar configuration where the state is at the center, [09:12]
mircea_popescu: yes! [09:12]
mircea_popescu: ty. [09:12]
asciilifeform: np. [09:12]
asciilifeform: << these take at worst a ~week of (a very modest) cpu, to generate. [09:14]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 06:16 BingoBoingo: In other PGP short id collisions [09:14]
asciilifeform: << i confess to wondering, of whom there is more - 'blog on proper, hand-admin'd machine' people, or of gentoo users.' [09:16]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 12:13 mircea_popescu: and then szabo goes on to hurr while blogging on google's platform. sigh. [09:16]
mircea_popescu: sigh. fucking derivative culture. anyone got a link to goatse ? [09:20]
mircea_popescu: piece of shit google listing cakes and corporashithead light jokes. is gone... \ [09:20]
asciilifeform: nooooo?!!!!?? [09:20]
mircea_popescu: buncha facebook links. [09:20]
asciilifeform: holy mother of fuck. [09:21]
mircea_popescu: An email address like no other, launching in early December 2012 for limited release. Your favourite email host meets Goatse..." /> [09:21]
mircea_popescu: meta name="keywords" content="mail,goatse,email,email hosting,goatse mail,goatsemail" /> [09:21]
asciilifeform: [09:21]
mircea_popescu: because totally, that's how it works. fucktard aluminun siding salesmen... [09:21]
mircea_popescu: a ty, [09:21]
asciilifeform: such important item, naturally, has mirror!1111 [09:22]
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu this is not even the most monumental wtf, recall when '', ~first~ .com ever regged, was auctioned off to spammers ? [09:23]
asciilifeform: iirc the money went specifically to pay for probate lawyers. [09:24]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [09:24]
mircea_popescu: << i dedicate this to asciilifeform for all his help in chasing down pieces of it! [09:49]
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: If your only "competition" is Toni Lane Caserole, I'm a little sad inside. [09:51]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also . [10:04]
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 14:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'terminator seed' is actually a very intriguing instrument from the standpoint of the mega-state. solves the ancient problem of the peasants not really needing the state for much of anything (as described in j. scott's 'the art of not being governed.') [10:04]
mircea_popescu: aha. [10:06]
deedbot: << Trilema - Too poor for trees, too dumb to know it... [10:11]
mircea_popescu: << qntra retrospective is so fucking delicious. [10:36]
mircea_popescu: soon enough they're going to have a nother one of these, right ? [10:36]
mircea_popescu: "we can't get a table straighter than 0.3% but we'll discuss bitcoin" [10:37]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't help but wonder wtf actually goes on at these conferences [10:44]
asciilifeform: all that comes up in my head is a gavin ballmering at the podium, 'big blox, big blox!' (to the tune of 'developersdevelopers' (tm) (r) naturally) [10:45]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's basically speed dating for people who suck too much to admit they are lonely [10:45]
mircea_popescu: why the sausage party then ? [10:47]
asciilifeform: ^ [10:47]
mircea_popescu: o wait. obviously. [10:47]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ironically the question proves his point. [10:47]
mircea_popescu: and in other morning shower thoughts, << "i love chicks with small hands. they make my schlong look longer than their thigh" [10:48]
asciilifeform: << in other lulz. [10:55]
asciilifeform: 'Two years ago, Amtrak’s inspector general revealed that in nearly two decades, drug agents paid a secretary $854,460 in exchange for passenger information. Court records suggest that agents have been profiling passengers on most major airlines, including American, Delta, JetBlue, Southwest, United and others, usually without the companies’ consent. ... “We want the cash. Good agents chase cash,” George Hood, who supervised a [10:56]
asciilifeform: drug task force assigned to O’Hare International Airport in Chicago before he retired in 2007, told the newspaper...' [10:56]
mircea_popescu: starting to sound very 1990 soviet dunnit. [10:56]
asciilifeform: by '90 the valuables were already leaving su by the trainload, and usd - entering. [10:59]
mircea_popescu: myeah, the "we gotta get some cash together" phase was more 88/89 [11:00]
asciilifeform: and earlier. recall thread re 'Берёзка' (foreign currency posh grocery shop) [11:01]
mircea_popescu: yeah. the very sharp desperation come to think of it was more of a ro thing. everyone else, from yugos and poles all the way over to moscow had a lot more sense than to take socialism seriously. [11:05]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usd was legalized in su in '91. [11:07]
asciilifeform: but even before this official surrender, was quite ubiquitous. [11:08]
mircea_popescu: myeah [11:08]
thestringpuller: when i was reading that i asked myself, "Who travels with cash anymore?" [11:50]
thestringpuller: wasn't the seinfeld era also the era of "traveler's cheques" and shiznit? [11:50]
phf: i used to travel with cash before i got an hsbc account [11:52]
asciilifeform: phf: what's special about hsbc ? [11:53]
phf: asciilifeform: as far as i gather they have highest ground coverage of all banks on account of running the world, which means that i can get a no fee atm pretty much anywhere [11:55]
thestringpuller: mod6: it's insane man. the AI in Absolution is a beast. when you kill someone normally, like with gun or fiber wire, it leaves marks on the body, and AI will see that. so they detect someone is there. however, there are ways people can die where the AI is just like "Huh. That's a shitty way to go." For instance I put some kinda acid in this d00ds hair regrowing gel or whatever. he puts it on, and it melts his head off and everyone aro [11:55]
asciilifeform: phf: mine just refunds all atm fee. [11:55]
phf: asciilifeform: amt fees, international fees and also fees that atms charge on top of withdrawl? [11:56]
asciilifeform: phf: supposedly. i have not tested the 'world' part, dun particularly relish feeding card skimmer debit card [11:56]
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly. the problem with cards isn't the piddly dollar or w/e the atm charges. [11:57]
phf: that's another thing, can find a branch pretty much anywhere [11:57]
mircea_popescu: if i have a roll and i want to pay 2k, i peel 2k off the roll. if i have a card i do what, wait for a week to get 400 / day ? [11:57]
mircea_popescu: and no, you can't find a branch pretty much anywhere outside the us. what you find and don't know any better are independent organisations that bought the right to use the name. [11:58]
* mircea_popescu discovered this with "citi" a few years back. [11:58]
phf: they turned you down when you walked in? [11:58]
mircea_popescu: nope. [11:59]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: doesn't this require you to have stacks of cash at your residence? [11:59]
mircea_popescu: but manhattan hq was "oh, we can't do that, they're not actually OURS" when i wanted them to etc. [12:00]
thestringpuller: pull a rack off the stack and make a roll [12:00]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes, having access to cash requires you to have access to cash. [12:00]
thestringpuller: so you don't leave any cash in banks or like what is the arrangement there is more what I'm inquring about :P [12:01]
trinque: bahaha yes, he's now going to tell you where his money is at. [12:01]
thestringpuller: LOL [12:02]
thestringpuller: i'm not gonna keep mils in my house [12:02]
trinque: y'know... I bet he has a few of them buttcoins. [12:02]
thestringpuller: you can roll bitcoins into a rubber band? who knew! [12:02]
phf: mircea_popescu: i wouldn't say hsbc branches are everywhere, but they've been in every country i've been to so far [12:03]
mircea_popescu: i actually use a clip. it's pretty great, can swallow a hundred bill stack vertically, or else just folds whatrever. [12:03]
phf: and i've extracted cash from them for the duration of my stay [12:03]
mircea_popescu: phf to put it in these terms, your high opinion of your insurance is mostly built on you not having had anything covered. [12:03]
thestringpuller: trinque: lemme rephrase MPEx::Bitcion as X::USD what is X? Obviously no bank qualifies there. [12:04]
mircea_popescu: did it actually happen to you that you had your card skimread in foreign jurisdiction and hsbc was "oh fuck we'll squish those fuckers" [12:04]
phf: mircea_popescu: no, i had some dodgy charges removed though [12:05]
mircea_popescu: better than nothing. [12:05]
asciilifeform: when you lose pocket change, american bank often refunds, strictly for pr [12:06]
asciilifeform: 'here have the candy bar back' [12:06]
asciilifeform: now go and lose $mil. [12:06]
mircea_popescu: but you know, the nightmare scenario is when seven+ figure account is linked to half a dozen cards which regularly pay for things such as "dinner for six at chez victor". [12:06]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. [12:06]
asciilifeform: the 'they stole yer purse? here's yer $300 back' thing is really a mousetrap cheese, to keep plebes from waking up to the scamolade of fiat bank as a class [12:07]
phf: asciilifeform: this is empty rhetoric unless you're actually not using a bank account [12:08]
mircea_popescu: i'm actually not using a bank account. [12:08]
phf: i mean, ~i~ benefit from "$300 back", why would i pretend like i'm mircea_popescu? [12:08]
mircea_popescu: yeah, no argument with all that. [12:08]
mircea_popescu: use what works just don't infer things scale. [12:08]
mircea_popescu: they mostly don't, and the "i'm not about to use card in foreign skimreader slit" is unescapable policy in plenty of real life situations. [12:10]
asciilifeform: i left the cardz at home when i got on the plane. [12:10]
phf: i have a card that's linked to my spending account, where i have to explicitly go and transfer money from a different account. at most i'm standing to lose $5k or so [12:11]
phf: i find it convenient, that, so far, i was able to walk into branches in different parts of the world, and extract 2-3k at a time to cover me for a few days of vacation. sometimes i also get sloppy (3am, i'm drunk), so i'll pull money from atm in some dodgy location [12:13]
mircea_popescu: that's not what you most stand to lose. what you most stand to lose is this situation where you "lose it", and tell the bank to close it, which they won't, so have to be screamed at and threatened, so they "do", except they keep re-opening it as the charges keep coming in, over ~years~. [12:13]
mircea_popescu: so you keep having to scream and threaten, ie, half a mil over two decades. [12:13]
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with trusting us banking/anything really : they lie. [12:14]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's this work, you take out the money, and bank extends you line of credit against your will ? [12:14]
mircea_popescu: yes. [12:14]
mircea_popescu: and then keeps sending you overdraft notices, and on and on. [12:15]
asciilifeform: lulzy. [12:15]
mircea_popescu: very lulzy. [12:15]
asciilifeform: what's the court circus for a tort like this look like ? [12:15]
phf: the overdraft thing, i thought, is a feature, that you negotiate when you sign the contract [12:15]
asciilifeform: i'd naively suppose it'd be an open'n'shut case [12:15]
mircea_popescu: ~half mil over a coupla decades. [12:16]
mircea_popescu: phf depends. you mean "the overdraft thing" as a feature to serve you, or as a feature to serve them ? [12:16]
asciilifeform: phf: the 'they keep your closed acct secretly open so that spammers, in league with bank, can keep charging it' is not in any contract afaik. [12:16]
mircea_popescu: there's no "closed account" artefact, in spite of customer intuition to the contrary. [12:16]
phf: right [12:17]
mircea_popescu: just like there is no "fuck you and your alimony, until and unless customer signs you a checque you can go dangle" [12:17]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elaborate re 'no closed account' ? [12:18]
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think that's "secret", that's somewhere in the contract that you sign with a visa network, which is separate from bank's contract [12:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's to elaborate ? "item x does not exist" "but i think it does" "good for you and good luck with santa" [12:19]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so, chump asks bank to close account, in actuality it never happens, if decade later some hobo digs through his rubbish bin and finds old chequebook, and tried to charge against it, bank will attempt to collect ? [12:20]
phf: asciilifeform: banks don't have to close the account, and if your account has been linked to visa, they have to keep it mandatory open for the duration of something like 10 years from your last transaction, which is how long visa network can claim a chargeback [12:20]
* asciilifeform can see it. [12:20]
asciilifeform: phf: re visa thing, it is famous. [12:20]
asciilifeform: phf: i was thinking of 'civilian' accts. [12:20]
phf: civilian accounts are always linked to visa network by default "you can access your savings from this card too, ain't it swell" [12:21]
asciilifeform: chargebacks concern visa ~merchant~ acct, no ? [12:21]
phf: ah but you have to have the counterparty [12:22]
asciilifeform: so official smokescreen is 'must keep acct open in case mr konsoomer asks for refund on his shoes decade later' ? [12:23]
mircea_popescu: anyway, not to say that the patient, organised, large entity can't actually tailor something that works for them but for retail (ie, you're worth millions or less) customer to expect they get THAT by default is cruisin' for a bruisin'. which is not so much of a problem generally because the lifestyle of us peonry is very narrow anyway. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no official smokescreen per se just, the us is predicated on "saying no is mean". what follows is soup. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: also the described hobo-rubbish thing actually happened irl. there's tons of sad stories of the middle class encountering us bank system. [12:25]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is one of the reasons pretty much everyone in usa owns shredder machine [12:25]
mircea_popescu: yes, and also the reason pretty much everyone in mexico has dreamcatcher on wall. [12:25]
asciilifeform: (often laughably inadequate, but ~some~) [12:25]
asciilifeform: hey gotta trap them evil spirits somehow ! [12:25]
mircea_popescu: quite. [12:26]
asciilifeform: rich folk buy the death ray from 'ghostbuster' i imagine. [12:26]
asciilifeform: 9000% moar power. [12:26]
mircea_popescu: in general, companies have a serious problem - because unless they're on the "official list google returns results from", the business case is rather weak - companies don't live too long. bank has little reason to try and salvage the business of an entity that lives on average under a decade. [12:27]
asciilifeform: i know a fella who saw a (1990s-era isp) business slowly sink due to an eternal visa chargeback rape, stemming originally from 1 single hack [12:28]
mircea_popescu: even something like apple - here today, gone tomorrow. alphabet inc was fdounded... 2015. ie it's not yet 2 years old. on it goes. [12:28]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno, prolly at this point crapple is Official 'tbtf' member [12:29]
mircea_popescu: i'd expect yeah. [12:29]
mircea_popescu: generally, once the founder dies you can assume usg got it. just liek in roman empire. [12:29]
asciilifeform: if somehow (dun ask me how!) folks stop buyin' the pnoje - it'll be run on pure synthetic printolade oil, like, e.g., ford. [12:29]
mircea_popescu: or turner or etc. yep. [12:30]
mircea_popescu: in fact : people kinda stopped already. [12:30]
mircea_popescu: much like if you're aiming to tell me google makes 70bn a year out of people paying for online advertising... [12:30]
asciilifeform: last i recall they moved to this weird lease thing. [12:30]
asciilifeform: (paging at&t!!!) [12:30]
mircea_popescu: the whole market is not even 1% that, and mostly fed by very short lived foools [12:30]
mircea_popescu: (+the government of argentina - which is currently paying google money to advertise itself to me, in terms of "soberania". the lulz of this is apparently lost for every spanish speaking tard) [12:31]
asciilifeform: 'ma bell', leased phones, lizard folk aiming, apparently, for eternal rerun loop of ~1970s usa. [12:31]
mircea_popescu: but who knows, maybe if they give google its cut they'll be able to place bonds in a year or two again. paul graham has the details. [12:31]
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem with the world that "magically" works is that if one day it magically stops working you're invited to go magically fuck yourself. [12:37]
mircea_popescu: magic can't be fixed. [12:37]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is quite true, but tautological - 'magic' is definitionally the set of things you can't pop the hood on and fix [12:47]
mircea_popescu: aha. [12:48]
mircea_popescu: tautology is the last ditch in the fight with they who do not wish to understand the plainly obvious. there's little more to be said to "i just want it to work" crowd than some tautology or other, because the problem in their head is exactly this : to them, it ISNT tautological. [12:50]
* phf sits there sadly with his hsbc account [12:51]
mircea_popescu: lol i was talking in teh general. dun worry, has nothing to do with you. [12:51]
phf: it was my last link to jet setters, men of the world [12:52]
mircea_popescu: the deep problem is that any known implementation of division of labour imports magic.h [12:53]
mircea_popescu: so this is far from a resolved problem. no actual action is required of you merely the understanding suffices. [12:54]
mircea_popescu: (the most successful to date thing tried, to resolve this - commodification - is turning out to be worse a solution than no solution at all. between dicamba, alf's saw, my heater and hollywood movies, the point is pretty sorely obvious.) [12:55]
mircea_popescu: hence all the appeal of "colored coins" "dao" blablabla. to people with no experience or clue of reality whatsoever, it truly seems like a complete solution - commodification without the downsides!!! [12:56]
mircea_popescu: for everyone else - there's the wot. and the fucking important point from this view of republican history to date is just this : we've actually built a selection of magic spells that are both a) magic to the user and b) fixable through a definite process. [12:58]
asciilifeform: << moar lulz. [13:21]
asciilifeform: qntra ddosed ? [13:28]
asciilifeform: (noticed considerable lag for a few days..) [13:28]
pete_dushenski: mod6: no prob. send on over the v99994 url. [13:51]
trinque: $s V99994 [13:51]
a111: 21 results for "V99994", [13:51]
trinque: hm dun see it [13:52]
thestringpuller: "The share of people under 30 who own a business has fallen by 65 percent since the 1980s and is now at a quarter-century low, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Federal Reserve data." [13:52]
pete_dushenski: trinque: ya, i looked too [13:52]
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: oof. [13:52]
pete_dushenski: << this zooko ? the one that failed to launch usg.zcash ? >> [13:53]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 12:11 mircea_popescu: << why isn't zooko in the wot, incidentally! [13:53]
trinque: pete_dushenski: [13:54]
trinque: is what mod6 gave me [13:54]
pete_dushenski: cheers. [13:54]
trinque: 945bed24a93fdde2ab94b47503a00e40ec935faeb05a59a803315e24929d6dcd93d1e58ee18f1bbc6e11166d6a22425ba9c323d55f40d5700849e03eeb8291e5 /var/www/html/ [13:54]
pete_dushenski: checks out [13:55]
asciilifeform: < pickelhaube??! [13:56]
covertress: later tell BingoBoingo said press release not yet approved by Lux Univ PR dept. was taste for TMSR eyes only. [14:01]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [14:01]
danielpbarron: << yeah twatter doesn't even work in my web browser anymore-- can only use it from my phone. As for the "abstinence only," I wish such a girl existed. Who has ever met such a thing? [14:15]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 12:34 mircea_popescu: dude fucking twitter is unreadable now. most of the screen is a "promoted tweet" which 1) has exactly nothing to do with anything and 2) is exactly the sort of slimy, anticool, "here's me being sexy - with a hoodie" stupidity. it's like all the girls that dedicated their adolescence to "abstinence only" moved on to "corporate advertising / governance" or some shit. [14:15]
shinohai: i thought mircea_popescu proved that `promoted tweets` was garbage ? [14:16]
danielpbarron: hm? I'm not defending anything about twatter [14:17]
danielpbarron: the whole thing stinks [14:17]
danielpbarron: << sure [14:17]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-14 23:03 mod6: later tell danielpbarron You wanna help the Foundation test the latest V99994 incantation? [14:17]
phf: join twitter to join conversation [14:19]
trinque: danielpbarron: I met plenty in tx public school [14:21]
trinque: they were the uggo chicks nobody wanted to fuck anyway [14:21]
danielpbarron: yeah well that hardly counts, does it? [14:22]
trinque: what is this hypothetical other version of the abstinent chick? [14:25]
danielpbarron: the kind you'd want to marry [14:26]
danielpbarron: it's not really abstinence if nobody was trying to get at you anyway [14:27]
danielpbarron: whole point is turning away most of the suitors [14:28]
trinque: that describes a property of you, not a property of her [14:28]
phf: [14:28]
a111: Logged on 2015-11-18 22:29 phf: they call him the elusive joe. -- nobody can catch him? -- nobody cares to [14:28]
trinque: heh! [14:28]
danielpbarron: 1) someone i'd want to fuck that 2) hasn't already been fucked [14:28]
danielpbarron: because 3) has a father who cares [14:28]
trinque: that's like waiting to get a job when the job for your True Self (TM) comes along [14:29]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of gullible nitwits, [14:29]
danielpbarron: no, because a job you must have. A wife, not. [14:29]
asciilifeform: 'How much you pay for enemies cyber weapons? Not malware you find in networks. Both sides, RAT + LP, full state sponsor tool set? We find cyber weapons made by creators of stuxnet, duqu, flame. Kaspersky calls Equation Group. We follow Equation Group traffic. We find Equation Group source range. We hack Equation Group. We find many many Equation Group cyber weapons. You see pictures. We give you some Equation Group files free, you se [14:29]
asciilifeform: e. This is good proof no? You enjoy!!! You break many things. You find many intrusions. You write many words. But not all, we are auction the best files.' [14:29]
trinque: danielpbarron: I'm speaking from her perspective, not yours [14:29]
danielpbarron: ok, but in that case all these fuckable girls would be married. They aren't, however. They just get passed around. [14:30]
danielpbarron: my argument isn't that they should wait for mr. perfect. My argument is that they should stick with whoever got her first [14:31]
phf: whachamacallit, "riding the cock carousel" [14:31]
trinque: danielpbarron: "should" leaves your argument to stand upon a "because reasons". [14:35]
danielpbarron: because otherwise they are harlots [14:35]
trinque: she doesn't stick around (and she's not psychologically miswired) it's probably because you suck [14:36]
trinque: not her [14:36]
danielpbarron: i'm not necessarily describing girls that have left me, although they do exist [14:37]
phf: trinque: presumably the argument is that she gets through a lot of sucky people before she gets to you, at which point you're not interested [14:37]
danielpbarron: surely it is the failure of men when this happens. I do not blame the girls, for they are the "weaker vessels" [14:37]
asciilifeform: interestingly, the 'free file' in earlier link contains what appears to be massive collection of nsa exploit installers [14:37]
asciilifeform: some with commented src. [14:37]
danielpbarron: phf, yes. [14:37]
trinque: because what, defiled by cockessence? [14:37]
danielpbarron: yes. [14:38]
trinque: pffflol [14:38]
asciilifeform: for anyone interested. [14:40]
asciilifeform: sha512==c5e1f808b06b3530d3bb84c965cdae7b6a1b88fa3dddf93f6e6b98418ae4a25dcab99c54bb4936fccd616c2fe8ab9b2b9503e8b1a70d2e2188cd252d0630ff96 [14:40]
danielpbarron: not only is she defiled, so is the land. It's a violent act to separate what God has joined. I have a blog article that's nearly finished about just this. [14:41]
trinque: sexual competition is biologically required she's doing her job, man. [14:44]
danielpbarron: death is biologically required [14:45]
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: is even more cock0phobic than asciilifeform ! [15:08]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can't stand cocks in his porn, danielpbarron can't stand his cock touching a cunt that might have had other cocks in it! [15:08]
ben_vulpes: post birth control, girls do not say no to cool guys. [15:09]
phf: ben_vulpes: [15:10]
ben_vulpes: gross what is that [15:11]
phf: post birth control cool guy [15:12]
trinque: danielpbarron should have no problem with him his swimmers won't be able to go the distance [15:13]
trinque: castration by skinny jeans [15:13]
phf: somehow you can't just hold one variable, just cause you will it to be so. them dependency graphs find SAT, and the solution is might surprise you! [15:13]
asciilifeform: unrelated, but hilarious, >> 'Their suit says Morpho and Safran defrauded the U.S. government and the state of California by falsely claiming their technology as French rather than Russian, violating antitrust laws and presenting false claims for payment.' [15:14]
danielpbarron: phf, it's no cool guy who would ditch her afterwards [15:26]
danielpbarron: err, ben_vulpes rather [15:27]
asciilifeform: lel, buncha magic packet senders in there. [15:49]
asciilifeform: largely against pre-diddled (but i repeat myself) ciscos. [15:50]
asciilifeform: also a linux/solaris very classical 'rootkit' and remote orifice client [15:52]
asciilifeform: (supports process hide, log cleansing, all of the 1990s fare.) [15:52]
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: your "cool" and her "cool" have ~epsilon to do with each other [16:20]
mircea_popescu: << ok this is sad. intelligence by regexp, really ? [16:23]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 17:21 asciilifeform: << moar lulz. [16:23]
mircea_popescu: "HPSCI had broadly stated that it could withhold any document containing unclassified discussion on any topic that had been considered in executive session during Plaintiff’s 17 years of service, as opposed to protecting the substance of Committee proceedings. For instance, this allegedly would apply to any discussion of any budget issue at any time." [16:24]
mircea_popescu: nice. lol. [16:24]
mircea_popescu: << exclude "online business" made up of a linked-in profile and vps/shared/free hosted website, and it's 10x to 100x worse. [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 17:52 thestringpuller: "The share of people under 30 who own a business has fallen by 65 percent since the 1980s and is now at a quarter-century low, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Federal Reserve data." [16:25]
mircea_popescu: << zooko triangle zooko. [16:25]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 17:53 pete_dushenski: << this zooko ? the one that failed to launch usg.zcash ? >> [16:25]
mircea_popescu: <. [16:26]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 18:21 trinque: they were the uggo chicks nobody wanted to fuck anyway [16:26]
mircea_popescu: << go to iran. [16:27]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 18:28 danielpbarron: because 3) has a father who cares [16:27]
mircea_popescu: << what's this, the stick shit on all sides of lulz department ? [16:29]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 18:29 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of gullible nitwits, [16:29]
pete_dushenski: mod6: pleased to report that 99994k spins up on deb7 without fuss. only comment would be on 'trb-howto' to suggest '-lows' command when booting bitcoind for the first time. [16:30]
mircea_popescu: << this is a very naive view, based on the behaviour of poor beta bois. girls get "passed around" until they meet the right guy. who generally doesn't give much of a shit who she fucks per se , but who does make her unavailable for teaming up with rando kids. [16:30]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 18:31 danielpbarron: my argument isn't that they should wait for mr. perfect. My argument is that they should stick with whoever got her first [16:30]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: arite. [16:31]
pete_dushenski: "Japan’s central bank is set to become the top shareholder of 55 companies in the Nikkei" << this can only be good for fiat [16:34]
danielpbarron: << I do not care what she thinks is cool. As I said already, the onus is on the guys the girls are the commodity being used improperly [16:34]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:20 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: your "cool" and her "cool" have ~epsilon to do with each other [16:34]
ben_vulpes: one cannot use a commodity improperly. [16:35]
ben_vulpes: one may kill a thing one owns. [16:35]
mircea_popescu: << the idea is not entirely without merit. people are entirely made up of their heuristics much like a child who spent the language-formative years among orangoutans will never make a great tenor, writer or public speaker just so a girl who spent the heuristic-formative years among retards will never make a good whore, spymaster or etc. [16:35]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 18:37 trinque: because what, defiled by cockessence? [16:35]
mircea_popescu: whether she fucks them or not is immaterial, however. hence my recomendation of iran : he might discover that in a hundred smoking hot virgin babes, thereby fitting his bill as stated, there's not a single one worth the hassle. [16:36]
danielpbarron: << hey, the muslims get a lot of things correct. But The Bible says not to seek a wife, so it's hardly a good reason to move [16:36]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:27 mircea_popescu: << go to iran. [16:36]
asciilifeform: later tell trinque i think deedbot may be actually broken. e.g., where is ? [16:37]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [16:37]
trinque: yep, I will write a from-scratch RSS thing sometime this week. [16:38]
trinque: as apparently this is required. [16:38]
pete_dushenski: << muricans can't figure out proportions and balance at any level. not political, nor architectural, nor anywhere else for that matter. they've no eye for the aesthetic. [16:38]
asciilifeform: << the 'sample' goodies box, strangely enough, appears to be genuine (if quite uninteresting, imho.) and previously unpublished. fwiw. [16:38]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:29 mircea_popescu: << what's this, the stick shit on all sides of lulz department ? [16:38]
asciilifeform: trinque: it worked great before... what changed ? [16:39]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so move to admire the classical civilisation. lotta stuff worth seeing in the middle east. [16:40]
trinque: asciilifeform: nada [16:40]
danielpbarron: meh [16:40]
asciilifeform: << i was expecting to read about cardboard, prefab sheetboard, poisonous insulation, 1,001 actual things, and instead reading feng shui garbage ? [16:40]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:38 pete_dushenski: << muricans can't figure out proportions and balance at any level. not political, nor architectural, nor anywhere else for that matter. they've no eye for the aesthetic. [16:40]
mircea_popescu: what's with you people and tumblr lately anyway! [16:41]
mircea_popescu: o shit, it's from me linking the pronz isnt it. [16:41]
danielpbarron: what I don't get is how the "cool guys" as you put it don't mind that their girls have been "passed around" [16:41]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: greek architectural theories are chinese now ?? [16:41]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: in exactly the same sense that melamine in biscuits is chinese. [16:42]
mircea_popescu: because she's not made of soap! to be an athlete you gotta work out to be a cunthlete you gotta put out. [16:42]
danielpbarron: so ~you~ work them out [16:42]
mircea_popescu: you can't keep up with a woman. [16:42]
danielpbarron: i cannot fathom why anyone would want her to be trained by other guys [16:42]
danielpbarron: me specifically? [16:42]
mircea_popescu: me either it's a male thing. [16:43]
trinque: danielpbarron: it's an insecurity, i.e. "if she has had other dick onoes she might think of that dick at some point" [16:43]
trinque: so what?! [16:43]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, do you not keep up with a harem of women? [16:43]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but they're not 16yos! [16:43]
danielpbarron: i don't care what ~she~ thinks [16:43]
mircea_popescu: yes, women can and will downregulate. but that's later in life. [16:43]
mircea_popescu: no idea why i highlighted alf lol. anyway. [16:44]
trinque: if not in her mind, where does the specter of cock-defilement live [16:44]
danielpbarron: in the mind of whoever she fucked, and in the nation, and the land itself [16:44]
trinque: in the fucking nation [16:44]
trinque: so now her cunt belongs to us all equally? [16:45]
asciilifeform: how about the cock calibration vernier. [16:45]
asciilifeform: as described by mircea_popescu . [16:45]
mircea_popescu: eh get out of here. it's not so simple as all that. recall that famous japanese chick that fucked some dude to stick a stilleto in his brain because he had won a war / killed her father ? [16:45]
mircea_popescu: "i fucked her" is not a scalar value. [16:45]
danielpbarron: trinque, no it belongs to her father at first, and then to her husband [16:45]
asciilifeform: << it is the same zooko as in pete_dushenski's article ! [16:47]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:25 mircea_popescu: << zooko triangle zooko. [16:47]
asciilifeform: yes, with the idiot altcoin [16:47]
asciilifeform: lacking a pgp sig, at the very least i will say that the 'two' zookos appear to share a name and a biography. [16:47]
mircea_popescu: if he were in wot there's hope he wouldn't be doing stupid shit. [16:48]
asciilifeform: (and yes prolly the same zooko as appears in my blog commentz.) [16:48]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: melamine biscuits are besides the point. the point is that muricans manifestly suck at not only using name materials like brick and stone, instead preferring shitboard, but that they can't even assemble them into anything coherent. really just a reiteration of the old 'garbage in, garbage out' adage i guess. [16:48]
pete_dushenski: s/sane/name [16:48]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i find the focus on the cosmetic when the functional elements are 'dangerous to self and to others' in 1,001 ways, to be also a typically american lunacy. [16:48]
asciilifeform: and the article exemplifies it. [16:49]
asciilifeform: 'this ford pinto has a scratched bumper and torpedo, eww. oh and also it will cremate you in a crash, just so y'know' [16:49]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the article is merely observing that 48yo pack-a-day smoking whoor looks black inside ~and~ outside [16:50]
pete_dushenski: they're deeply related. [16:50]
asciilifeform: what i read in there is a lie by omission. [16:51]
asciilifeform: and palpable implication that 'if it had correct feng shui, it would not be 'mc' mansion.' [16:51]
asciilifeform: discussing the 'aesthetics' of cardboard house is quite like putting spoilers on a trabant. [16:52]
asciilifeform: it isn't a thing. [16:52]
asciilifeform: trinque: do i misunderstand, or you were saying that rss worked great for months, then stopped entirely mysteriously, and there is no clue re why ?? [16:53]
asciilifeform: and NOTHING was changed in the code ? [16:53]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: except if you had spoilers on a trabant, you'd be forced to ask 'why do those need to be there' to which the answer is 'oh because the car is dreadfully engineered and will lose stability and traction above 50mph' [16:55]
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah. thing's 39 lines using feedparser. braindead simple loop. [16:55]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: lawnmower engine at 50mph?! [16:55]
pete_dushenski: that the mcmansion is designed by children who failed ~technologist~ programs (not even architecture school) is indicative of deeper rot. [16:56]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: fine. 20mph. [16:56]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it has very little to do with designers, and much to do with availability of materials, and likewise usg mandates. [16:56]
pete_dushenski: bicycle doesn't need spoilers at that speed but trabant does ? this is a problem. [16:56]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and if you think that spoilers of whatever kind have any effect at 20mph... [16:56]
asciilifeform: it doesn't! example concerned idiot 'aesthetificating' on top of a thoroughly broken construction. [16:57]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall the thread where mircea_popescu described phriend who went to usa and tried to have a proper house built ? [16:57]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: don't anchor to the numbers... i only brought them up to overcome your lawnmower nonsense [16:57]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: trabant ran on lawnmower engine. fact. [16:57]
pete_dushenski: and still had top speed of 62mph [16:58]
mircea_popescu: you can still find two stroke lawn mowers ?! [16:58]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: my wheelbarrow also can do 62mph - downhill... [16:59]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right here in the land of the phreee [16:59]
mircea_popescu: i dunno what trabant did 100km/h. maybe in lab conditions, engine on bench sort of theory. [16:59]
asciilifeform: i think BingoBoingo has whole collection [16:59]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought it was all either electric or else 4stroke for the ride-on stuff. 2strioke is such loud, smoky nonsense... [17:00]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the smaller lawn machines are ~all 2stroke here. [17:00]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm don't recall mp's bud's housebuilding thread [17:00]
mircea_popescu: they may be verboten in yurp [17:00]
pete_dushenski: 2-stroke is common in orclandnorth. seen in snowblowers, leafblowers, etc. [17:01]
pete_dushenski: a blight i'd love to see die. [17:01]
mircea_popescu: << this is actually the controlling point. for all the theoretical theory of how "woman" should be you're still going to meet individual women with which it works or it doesn't. plenty of cases "the wrong" works way better than the theoretical best, even if present (which it oft isnt) [17:01]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 19:13 phf: somehow you can't just hold one variable, just cause you will it to be so. them dependency graphs find SAT, and the solution is might surprise you! [17:01]
pete_dushenski:<< irl trabant 601cc top speed. 117kph [17:03]
mircea_popescu: lmao check out the nox trabi [17:03]
pete_dushenski: << that's nothing compared to trabant 1.4. >150kph! [17:04]
asciilifeform: trabambourghini!1111 [17:04]
mircea_popescu: dunno man... i'm thinking more [17:04]
pete_dushenski: might be engine swap [17:04]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: reliant robin ? [17:04]
pete_dushenski: aha. [17:05]
pete_dushenski: classic tg episode. [17:05]
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy [17:07]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't dispute that with care, and expert handling, even a stock trabant might, on perfect roads, safely drive 100km/h briefly. [17:07]
mircea_popescu: however, the actual artefact of the time in the context of its time was maybe capable of 80, and otherwise liked the 50/55/60 limits. [17:07]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: found l0gz, [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2014-03-04 22:05 mircea_popescu: romanian friends went to us, bought land, proceeded to build (proper) house [17:10]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: reading! [17:10]
asciilifeform: << see also. [17:11]
a111: Logged on 2014-09-12 15:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the case of the people making that very cheap wholly natural house, being ordered to destroy it ? [17:11]
pete_dushenski: crazy... mp's pal must've been in new suburb. most every city in orcland has 'old' 'established' neighbourhoods with 100+yo mansions allowing if not even requiring 'proper' house to be built. ofc, land values in such areas are astronomical. [17:12]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'established' typically allows whatever, so long as it was standing prior to 19xx or when. [17:12]
pete_dushenski: tlsb [17:13]
gribble: Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command. [17:13]
pete_dushenski: $tlsb [17:13]
pete_dushenski: tslb [17:13]
gribble: Time since last block: 58 minutes and 52 seconds [17:13]
pete_dushenski: that's the ticket [17:13]
trinque: someone sacrifice a virgin to the chaos god [17:13]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and in usa, you can typically build ~whatever in rural pissholes, or in 'industrial' zone. but ~nobody wants to live there. [17:13]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: country estates in airstrip one work just fine in 'rural pisshole' [17:14]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i know a fella who built himself 'country estate' in wv. [17:15]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you oughta see his ping time. [17:15]
pete_dushenski: i oughta see duke of westminster's ping time too [17:16]
asciilifeform: (and, iirc, when it rains, it is == infinity.) [17:16]
pete_dushenski: << light overview of clintler internal kill count. [17:17]
pete_dushenski: 'having accidents' is the new heroine od. [17:18]
pete_dushenski: tslb [17:19]
gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 24 seconds [17:19]
asciilifeform: $s arkencide [17:21]
a111: 2 results for "arkencide", [17:21]
asciilifeform: << subj. [17:22]
pete_dushenski: damn. ya. [17:22]
pete_dushenski: the list just keeps growing. [17:23]
pete_dushenski: << record-setter from the logs. 38 mins to go to match it. [17:31]
a111: Logged on 2013-05-08 01:55 gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 55 minutes, and 38 seconds [17:31]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: also it looks like block spamfilling is in fashion again. [17:33]
pete_dushenski: << a bit longer even. same block. [17:33]
a111: Logged on 2013-05-08 02:18 gribble: Time since last block: 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 59 seconds [17:33]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: like round trotskyite eyeglasses, these things come and go. [17:34]
asciilifeform: << docs, apparently, from earlier. [17:34]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:38 asciilifeform: << the 'sample' goodies box, strangely enough, appears to be genuine (if quite uninteresting, imho.) and previously unpublished. fwiw. [17:34]
asciilifeform: 'scripts' is misnomer, these are docs, mainly concerning the patching of fw in proprietary shitware (e.g., cisco, fortinet) [17:36]
asciilifeform: << moar lulz. [17:41]
asciilifeform: 'Imposing losses on customers who were not hacked appears to go against the company's terms of service, said Ryan Straus, a Fenwick & West lawyer who advises financial technology companies ...' [17:41]
pete_dushenski: tslb [17:51]
gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds [17:51]
ben_vulpes: cartel!1! [17:57]
trinque: bc,stats [17:58]
gribble: Current Blocks: 425379 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [17:58]
asciilifeform: tslb [18:07]
gribble: Time since last block: 5 minutes and 24 seconds [18:08]
asciilifeform: snore. [18:08]
phf: for a person who dreams of sleep ad libitum you sure snore a lot [18:14]
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: [18:14]
asciilifeform: phf: i've been sleeping ad libitun since mid-may. [18:15]
asciilifeform: *libitum [18:15]
phf: :) [18:15]
pete_dushenski: << 9.80 for usain bolt. [18:21]
mircea_popescu: << the way this works is you go in "new" place, build for century, wait for civilisation to catch up, $profit. [18:35]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 21:12 pete_dushenski: crazy... mp's pal must've been in new suburb. most every city in orcland has 'old' 'established' neighbourhoods with 100+yo mansions allowing if not even requiring 'proper' house to be built. ofc, land values in such areas are astronomical. [18:35]
mircea_popescu: only ustard will go into "high value", watch that erode from under their feet. [18:35]
mircea_popescu: << o hey, dreams come true ? tell me how does it pheel... [18:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 22:15 asciilifeform: phf: i've been sleeping ad libitun since mid-may. [18:37]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: define "new" ? [18:42]
mircea_popescu: it's complicated, esp in the states. in romania much more trivial a point, growth pattern of cities quite obvious. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: but the idea is that you want to be 10-20 years early to the party. much like you know, if you're gonna rent out fuckspace at burning man, best go there a day early park the van right. [18:44]
pete_dushenski: this 10-20 jump ahead of the 'cool' kids i've seen work here as well. currently 50-60s neighbourhoods are the attractive ones for $profit here. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: much easier to pull off in places that had historically insane restraints on land development which just went away. a lot harder to do in places which are increasingly insane. [18:47]
pete_dushenski: the neat thing about places (like edm) that are increasingly insane is that the definition of 'what's central' continues to expand as the peripheries explode across the prairie landscape. [18:49]
pete_dushenski: everything's relative and all that [18:49]
pete_dushenski: bbias [18:49]
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty, coda has been rehumored [19:28]
pete_dushenski: lol sweet title [19:29]
pete_dushenski: missing period at the end tho. [19:29]
pete_dushenski: or not eh. nvm. [19:30]
pete_dushenski: i see what you did there! [19:30]
deedbot: << Qntra - FDA Prepares To Regulate Literal Shitware [19:35]
BingoBoingo: lol [19:39]
BingoBoingo: Anyway pete ty for adding coverage of another life science today. [19:40]
pete_dushenski: avec plaisir, monsieur! [19:43]
* pete_dushenski just waited 3 hrs for tx conf with 0.00022 fee. "bitcoin is the worst form of e-payments, except for all the rest." (tm) (r) [19:46]
mircea_popescu: in other buttprobing news, [19:47]
asciilifeform: << not my first, nor even second jailbreak. [19:48]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 22:37 mircea_popescu: << o hey, dreams come true ? tell me how does it pheel... [19:48]
pete_dushenski: << for misty-eyed sovietophiles. featuring trabant 2-stroke on floor(!) and 'pravetz' computadors. [19:58]
pete_dushenski: << and some toyz. [20:01]
pete_dushenski: << featuring profile pic of nnt in what appears to be a santa hat. [20:14]
* pete_dushenski to dine on the town. [20:29]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a really ? well cool then [20:43]
mircea_popescu: "Studying individual ants will never (one can safely say never for most such situations), never give us an idea on how the ant colony operates. For that, one needs to understand an ant colony as an ant colony, no less, no more, not a collection of ants." aaaand we lose interest. [20:44]
mircea_popescu: fucking collection of ignoramuses. [20:45]
mircea_popescu: (likbez : ant worker is not genetically distinct from ant queen. epigenetics (mostly, env factors - as in feed) make the fenotypical distinction. consequently yes, whole anthill, as far as its underlying mechanics go, is found in each worker ant, all you have to do is sequence the dna and explore the possibilities. that such is currently a computationally prohibitive task is not relevant to the discussion.) [20:47]
mircea_popescu: (likbez #2 : ant colony, nature's finest example of star topology, is for this reason uniquely bad example for the (correctly defined) "complex system". the boom-bust cycle of rabbits and other small rodents much better examples. complex systems are made of like parts, not worker-queen sorta nonsense.) [20:51]
mircea_popescu: (likbez #3 : that the socialist shithead can not think of anything because too obsessed with anthill fetish should be informative as to his braindamage) [20:52]
mircea_popescu: so there, biology, system theory, political science and psychanalysis! [20:52]
asciilifeform: usedtobe they were fixated on bees [20:52]
asciilifeform: why, i wonder, now ant. [20:53]
mircea_popescu: yeah but they meanwhile figured out that bees produce honey, and noticed their drones produce nothing. [20:53]
asciilifeform: that was my thought. [20:53]
mircea_popescu: i don't mean figured out in any sense but guy de maupassan'ts "animal instinct of peasants" [20:53]
asciilifeform: well yes. [20:53]
asciilifeform: how else. [20:53]
mircea_popescu: right. [20:53]
mircea_popescu: termite colony in fact uniquely valuable model for us. [20:54]
mircea_popescu: "table is solid - doesn't fall" [20:54]
asciilifeform: 'so let's chew, chew some moar.' [20:55]
thestringpuller: so. I'm pretty sure the lulz cows want us to clean up the room. [20:55]
thestringpuller: for them. [20:55]
mircea_popescu: chew shares likely to grow for the foreseable future off permanently elevated plateau. [20:55]
asciilifeform: soooo why is taleb on 'medium'..? [21:00]
asciilifeform: was, unknown to me, tumblr user, and it broke ? [21:00]
phf: medium is hot new publishing platform. everyone is using it. [21:03]
shinohai: later tell BingoBoingo [21:04]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [21:04]
ben_vulpes: livejournal 4.9? [21:06]
mircea_popescu: fucking idiots. [21:06]
phf: join medium to join conversation [21:06]
mircea_popescu: you are triggering me. [21:06]
ben_vulpes: "with myyyy finger! on youuuuur trigger!" (tm) (r) beatles [21:07]
* phf puts on a yarmulka and starts dancing [21:08]
mircea_popescu: in better news, [21:08]
asciilifeform: in yet other noose, [21:09]
asciilifeform: 'BOZENA RIOT is a remotely operated, armored vehicle designed to handle riots and mobs in the streets and urbanized areas. The system offers a solution for both protecting the law-enforcement units in action and controlling the situation whenever peace maintenance is required. The machine's design follows the concept of the BOZENA 4 demining system, which has been in use in various countries across Europe, Africa...' [21:09]
mircea_popescu: does it hold up to dog piss ? [21:09]
asciilifeform: only 1 way to find out... [21:10]
phf: asciilifeform: first predicted in half life 3, [21:12]
asciilifeform: built-in shotgun, gas sprayer... what's not to luvvvv [21:12]
mircea_popescu: anyway. the generals are figthing last war the notion that anyone wants or needs physical body agglomeration for any purpose is ridoinculous. [21:12]
mircea_popescu: the revolution ain't gonna be in the street. [21:12]
thestringpuller: phf: you mean half life 2 [21:13]
thestringpuller: unless you were making a joke [21:13]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno that it has much to do with 'revolutions', it's more of a pour la canaille faut la mitraille sort of thing. [21:13]
phf: thestringpuller: i lost count [21:14]
mircea_popescu: i guess. ironically - the govt really should luv a "riot" in this sense. those are its people, should just go with them. [21:14]
mircea_popescu: the enemy is not there. [21:14]
mircea_popescu: but hey, the clue store doesn't take filthy fiat. [21:15]
thestringpuller: phf: ironically, humans lost control of their own planet. it wasn't humans making those checkpoints. [21:15]
thestringpuller: perhaps asciilifeform is onto something about this delizardification [21:15]
mircea_popescu: holy shit, check out this dude : [21:18]
mircea_popescu: ~30 yo, fully hunchback, "marketing director" ? that country's fucked. [21:18]
phf: thestringpuller: personally i'm partial to venusian conspiracy [21:21]
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: pleased to report that 99994k spins up on deb7 without fuss. only comment would be on 'trb-howto' to suggest '-lows' command when booting bitcoind for the first time. << hey! Thanks for testing that! [21:35]
mod6: <+danielpbarron> << sure << did ya see just above where trinque posted the script & the hash? test the same way you would with V99995. shouldn't need to do anything different. [21:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-14 23:03 mod6: later tell danielpbarron You wanna help the Foundation test the latest V99994 incantation? [21:37]
mod6: <+trinque> pete_dushenski: << <+trinque> 945bed24a93fdde2ab94b47503a00e40ec935faeb05a59a803315e24929d6dcd93d1e58ee18f1bbc6e11166d6a22425ba9c323d55f40d5700849e03eeb8291e5 /var/www/html/ << thanks for posting trinque [21:45]
trinque: yw [21:46]
mod6: bc,stats [21:52]
gribble: Current Blocks: 425399 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 1992 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [21:52]
asciilifeform: << holyshit, how do you end up like this [21:53]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 01:18 mircea_popescu: ~30 yo, fully hunchback, "marketing director" ? that country's fucked. [21:53]
phf: i feel like tmsr needs a bard, whatever happened to vexual [22:12]
asciilifeform: he's around. [22:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect laptop. [22:18]
mircea_popescu: phf cat-toonist better. sadly, all the chicks are being silly. [22:19]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in 1970, [22:20]
asciilifeform: l0l crapple kbd circa 201 [22:21]
asciilifeform: 2001 [22:21]
mircea_popescu: shhh [22:21]
phf: i had that phone [22:21]
mircea_popescu: that's the pivotal part :D [22:22]
mircea_popescu: << turns out fuck is slightly holier than shit. [22:22]
asciilifeform: i still have it ! [22:22]
asciilifeform: motherfucking phone. [22:22]
phf: huh, i only used holy once [22:26]
phf: [22:26]
a111: Logged on 2016-03-12 17:03 phf: also, holy mother of logs [22:26]
mircea_popescu: yeah, mother is a distant third [22:26]
phf: holy mother of logs is the only holy thing for a citizen of tmsr (unless they are, of course, danielpbarron) [22:26]
mircea_popescu: holy buncha pottymouths. [22:31]
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