Forum logs for 13 May 2019
| billymg: | hmm, ok makes sense | [00:10] |
| mp_en_viaje: | "Additionally the fact that none of | [00:41] |
| mp_en_viaje: | these syndicates have been seriously disrupted over the last five years provides an | [00:41] |
| mp_en_viaje: | insight into the effectiveness of their networks." | [00:41] |
| mp_en_viaje: | hurr durr. reading the vomit of "statal actors" is pretty fucking disturbingly like reading http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-nine/#selection-167.12-171.94 | [00:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | extremely incompetent yet extremely ambitious, sorta nonsense that screams for a sound trashing. | [00:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | "scoping exercise". hurr. | [00:43] |
| mp_en_viaje: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-12-may-2019#2534775 << keks no, most ro bois work "in it". ~10k/year. | [00:51] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 03:49 asciilifeform: arguably it comes down to a stupid choice of profession. the software pseudo-industry only really exists in the reich + its tendrils, afaik. | [00:51] |
| mp_en_viaje: | anyway, it comes down to very entrenched management ineptitude. guy wants to do what he wants to do not what he must do, has complicated, patiently constructed over time (through selection, much like how species appear) list of explanations/justifications. | [00:54] |
| mp_en_viaje: | this coupled with a very myopic perception of outside reality, whereby the closer inconveniences are always overcounted and structural problems systematically discounted yield a very stable situation : he sits in the worst part of the us, complains about it, and will sit there until the day he dies. | [00:55] |
| mp_en_viaje: | consider for elucidation the model of an android, which for our didactic needs is a) very intelligent b) doesn't need to physically eat c) is required to appear to the common human as a common human. | [00:57] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the process then becomes evident : c requires it to occasionally engage in the activity of eating, but the "whilst some have been driven by organisational necessity, for example, finite resources." problem, to quote the united knelliot, precludes buying kitchen equipment or raw materials. | [00:59] |
| mp_en_viaje: | what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available. | [01:00] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the net result is a "very intelligent' android that's obviously an android to ~everyone in the biz of spotting androids, but who otherwise claims to be hungry and making eternal plans to restaurant meals that ever justifiedly do not occur. | [01:01] |
| mp_en_viaje: | in the end, it's an all-in bet on reich stability. like everyone else in there. | [01:02] |
| mp_en_viaje: | from an engineering perspective, the strategy's "too tight", fails at what could be described as "useful waste". the sort of activity like going on an aimless walk, or talking to an unknown woman, or playing a few rounds of three card monte with some guy on the street. | [01:06] |
| mp_en_viaje: | there's a very marked difference between the people who know it's a scam -- and therefore ~NEVER~ indulge and the people who know it's a scam and yet very occasionally indulge. the difference's the former are "well educated" engineers, whereas the latter "illegal" | [01:07] |
| mp_en_viaje: | (think about the example -- the fellow running it has been doing it for a while, very readily spots that you | [01:08] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ~are aware~ it's a scam. now it suddenly costs him more to figure out wtf you're doing than it costs you to play. sometimes this occurs to him, in which case you suddeny got a conection in the local underground.) | [01:09] |
| mp_en_viaje: | that sorta thing's how http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729820 sorta items are born. | [01:17] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-10-27 17:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, no theorems isn't it. there's that famous case of my driver whom my mother (who was bumming a ride) asked in shock why'd he'd go around playing valet for a 17yo. he said something like "not everyone's a big deal". man had 0 theorems to prove, but also didn't go around deluding himself on the matter. | [01:17] |
| asciilifeform: | i kept waiting for the inevitable prikoke cite. where is it 1!! | [01:31] |
| mp_en_viaje: | imo fundamentally different item. | [01:39] |
| mp_en_viaje: | prikoke == <XRevan86> asciilifeform: I'll stay sceptical for now. | [01:40] |
| mp_en_viaje: | this "sceptical" is very much the same story as afanti's [aka nasreddin] engagedment to teach the local baron's singing in a year, on the theory that "i am hungry now -- who knows what will be in a year". he's skeptical as to the future. you're not, you have a theory as to the future, the difficulties are in the implementation. | [01:44] |
| mp_en_viaje: | engagedment to teach the local baron's singing <-> engagement to teach the local baron's donkey singing. check out the impacted d[onkey]. | [01:44] |
| * asciilifeform | to bed, but promises to continue this thrd laters | [01:48] |
| mp_en_viaje: | nn | [01:50] |
| phf: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912257 << i can corroborate the sentiment, i didn't get to see the parade directly, but saw all the activity around it | [07:46] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-10 00:41 asciilifeform: i wonder if phf got to see parade. | [07:46] |
| lobbesbot: | phf: Sent 17 hours and 38 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf sig in http://bvt-trace.net/2019/05/unrolled-assembly-comba/ ( and diana_coman 's earlier ) at your earliest , into btcbase, ty | [07:46] |
| phf: | buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits | [07:48] |
| phf: | it was probably the most engaged of all the celebrations i've seen here. we went to a hookah place, a kind of popular bar/restaurant: the staff were dressed in "military" outfits, there was a bunch of tables full of men eating and drinking vodka, making toasts to the fallen heroes and dead relatives | [07:51] |
| phf: | i didn't bother taking camera with me, because i didn't expect there to be any activity besides the parade, but the city was in full celebration mode | [07:52] |
| mp_en_viaje: | so moral being, always take camera. | [07:54] |
| phf: | i have a dslr that i got off somebody as debt repayment, which ended up putting me into a silly lock: it's heavy and not something you just grab with you, on the other hand i don't want to buy a smaller camera "since i already have dslr and i should sell it first", but then i also don't want to deal with selling it | [08:01] |
| phf: | i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned | [08:02] |
| mp_en_viaje: | yeah, exactly why i didn't get a dslr mysle.f | [08:10] |
| mp_en_viaje: | was considering it at some point. but the idea is for it to serve me, not the other way around. | [08:11] |
| mp_en_viaje: | anyway, what's the proble mwith selling it, put it on ebay for a buck, ship to whoever ends up winning bidding war, done. | [08:11] |
| asciilifeform: | in other noose, amd 'family 22' cpu (i.e. where they introduced fritz core in 2013) has obvious breakage in 'usg.random' instruction (also introduced then, in footsteps of intel) : https://archive.is/BMJwJ | [11:05] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s rdrand | [11:06] |
| a111: | 11 results for "rdrand", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rdrand | [11:06] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912942 << i had one at 1 pt, sold it for the described reason and bought what is nao known as 'mp cam' in 2011. but earlier this yr retired it in favour of a recently introduced thing that is sorta in between the two, has removable lens but around half the mass of typical dslr. | [11:09] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 12:10 mp_en_viaje: yeah, exactly why i didn't get a dslr mysle.f | [11:09] |
| asciilifeform: | also sony, 'a6000', inexpensive. ( anyone thinking of trying it should be aware that the included lens is mediocre however. but it does take vintage lenses of various vendors via adapter. ) | [11:10] |
| mp_en_viaje: | also depends a lot what you do. if you car everywhere, even a tripod in the back may work. if you hands-in-pockets and walk, might even be too bulky. | [11:10] |
| mp_en_viaje: | for me it's a sweetspot of "fits in slavegirl purse". | [11:11] |
| asciilifeform: | this one is approx. the size of the ubiquitous '30s leicas | [11:11] |
| asciilifeform: | worx great w/out legs, too, has electro-stabilizer. | [11:11] |
| asciilifeform: | (just like the 'mp cam' ) | [11:12] |
| asciilifeform: | depending on size of slave purse, may even fit in one. | [11:12] |
| asciilifeform: | example shots : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2913#selection-298.1-362.3 << via stock lens with 2 chinese extender rings ('miser's macro lens') | [11:13] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912936 << supposedly something like 1000 dour emigres showed up with portraits in dc. but i did not see with own eyes. | [11:20] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 11:48 phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits | [11:20] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912941 << if you like can have mine for cost of postage. pgpgram where to send it. i think i have a few spare batteries and external charger for'em also, somewhere | [11:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 12:02 phf: i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned | [11:24] |
| * asciilifeform | has become fond of this method of unloading idle irons. | [11:26] |
| asciilifeform: | would rather put in hands of l1 than sell for twobux on ebay and enrich omidyar et al | [11:27] |
| * asciilifeform | brb,teatime | [11:28] |
| mp_en_viaje: | it's pretty smart, in that it keeps the marginal value within republican walls. | [11:42] |
| asciilifeform: | aha, that's the idea | [12:49] |
| asciilifeform: | i have other 'surplus' gear also, for folx who have a use e.g. a 'icestick' (ice40 '4k' (half-size)) proto-board, buncha similars, at some pt i'll make list | [12:50] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile , in ru heathendom , (translation mine) : 'there is a sign that distinguishes a troo programmer from an impostor. a true programmer , before going to bed, will put on his nightstand two glasses. one with water -- in case in the night he becomes thirsty. and one empty -- in case not.' | [13:09] |
| mp_en_viaje: | you were gonna make an inventory at some point, iirc. | [13:10] |
| asciilifeform: | aha. may have to wait for next change of flat / excavations, sadly | [13:11] |
| asciilifeform: | let's put this way : if asciilifeform's dwelling were a sokoban level, i am not certain it would be a winnable level.. | [13:12] |
| mp_en_viaje: | lol i suspected. | [13:13] |
| asciilifeform: | as often happens, mp_en_viaje suspects correctly. | [13:14] |
| mp_en_viaje: | in other lulz : my ro lawyer came to me ~this sunday~, to return archived papers. | [13:14] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the place he had them stored in, he got just about the time i was leaving. so my box was in the bottom of the pit. "i must've been thinner then", he says, cuz well... couldn't get into there. eventuslly managed to squeeze in, sideways, but then, once got box... couldn't get back out. | [13:15] |
| mp_en_viaje: | had to call his clerk to come from his office, to extract him. | [13:15] |
| mp_en_viaje: | so he went to market, bought materials, rebuilt his storage there. | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | if it's the same fella asciilifeform met, i can picture this scene | [13:15] |
| mp_en_viaje: | thus by the time he was knocking at my door ~2pm, he had been working for 8 hours | [13:15] |
| mp_en_viaje: | dood woke at 6am to get my my papers. on a sunday. | [13:16] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, aha. | [13:16] |
| asciilifeform: | a++ excavator. nao if he'd learn to pgp... | [13:16] |
| mp_en_viaje: | anyway, to me it was very amusing because, on one hand, "hey nicoleci , where in chicago do i hire lawyer like this" and on the other hand, HOLY SHIT, it's not just computer programmer who goes to turn down volume and is there for two days rewriting the os. | [13:17] |
| mp_en_viaje: | IT'S EVERYBODY! | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | ( iirc he was not only lawyer but licensed accountant also. bright fella. dunno why resistant to pgp. ) | [13:17] |
| mp_en_viaje: | if you're serious rather than just floating by, every fucking task or thing escalates 4ever | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | this -- verily | [13:18] |
| mp_en_viaje: | nah, wife does accountng. | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | aa | [13:19] |
| mp_en_viaje: | closest to a functional fambly you ever saw, he has some helpers, she has some helpettes, it's like... | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | i saw several of these, we sat for a while tryin' to come up with synthetic language to speak lol | [13:20] |
| asciilifeform: | also funnily, when going there , asciilifeform went in wrong door, ended up in some sorta gurlz' dormitory. labyrinth of unlit hallways knocked on several doors and faced with surprised orc chix in bathrobes etc | [13:22] |
| mp_en_viaje: | and this suggested nothing to you ? :D | [13:22] |
| asciilifeform: | it suggested 'fuck i'm late' lol | [13:23] |
| mp_en_viaje: | as ye olde deckard cain would say, "shtay a while... and listen..." | [13:23] |
| asciilifeform: | 'stay a while.. stay FOREVER!' -- 'mission impossible' game intro on c64 | [13:23] |
| mp_en_viaje: | ehehe | [13:26] |
| mp_en_viaje: | THIS, however, is as fine example of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912917 as could be had. gypsy boy'd have stayed. atm i suspect that's your exact opposite. | [13:28] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available. | [13:28] |
| asciilifeform: | gypsy can do amazing things. iirc mp_en_viaje described, how the half-built palaces asciilifeform saw in timis, were built by'em | [13:28] |
| asciilifeform: | 'shoot 1st, ask q's later' | [13:28] |
| asciilifeform: | 'oops we ran outta dough to build roof' | [13:28] |
| mp_en_viaje: | aha. | [13:29] |
| asciilifeform: | when i saw these, i was certain they had to be ruins (of the ru '90s 'walls carefully disassembled by scavengers' sort) -- but apparently not | [13:31] |
| asciilifeform: | although, next to that hotel i was in ( same 1 mp_en_viaje held c2 in ) , gigantic and apparently abandoned glass box bldg was having its roof methodically cut by scavengers with torches, quietly loaded each piece on truck and vanished before nightfall | [13:32] |
| diana_coman: | they are new ruins! our ruins are newer and shinier than theirs! | [13:32] |
| asciilifeform: | lol recall albert speer's 'ruins theory' aha | [13:33] |
| asciilifeform: | later dug and found that that place was Officially for sale on www, for 'paltry mil bux', w/ no mention of 'dun come with roof' so inferred that roof was 'unofficially' sold.. | [13:35] |
| asciilifeform: | or , fuck even knows, roof sold 'legit', and www listing a sham | [13:36] |
| asciilifeform: | impossible to tell w/out retaining a skilled orcologist | [13:36] |
| asciilifeform: | re the gypsy palaces, oblig photo -- http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743485 | [13:38] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-28 00:02 asciilifeform: other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg | [13:38] |
| asciilifeform: | diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc ) | [13:40] |
| asciilifeform: | i suspect in bucharest the locals are moar preoccupied with finding 'sugar' jobs at microshit tentacle and saving up for miami | [13:41] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912999 << mp_en_viaje i have to plead 'guilty' to this. asciilifeform when younger many times 'went for broke', pawned shirt, and -- lost shirt. so has roughly same pov as bedouin has re water. | [13:45] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 17:28 a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available. | [13:45] |
| lobbes: | yea, but | [13:46] |
| lobbes: | oops | [13:46] |
| lobbes: | went for broke in the reich, no? | [13:46] |
| mp_en_viaje: | yes. but the polar opposite strategy of something that hurt ain' ttherefore gonna work | [13:46] |
| asciilifeform: | ( iirc outlined in old thrds, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661113 ) | [13:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-05-24 21:57 asciilifeform: i'd be barfing harder if i hadn't 'seen this exact movie before', with ye olde robot | [13:47] |
| mp_en_viaje: | if it did, all the reaction lesbians and transgenders'd be happy | [13:47] |
| asciilifeform: | nao this is troo. hence why took up the piz matter | [13:48] |
| asciilifeform: | if not risk anything, why to live. | [13:48] |
| mp_en_viaje: | something like that. | [13:51] |
| mp_en_viaje: | how's pizarro doing these days btw | [13:51] |
| asciilifeform: | waiting for asciilifeform to free hands, grr | [13:52] |
| lobbes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905113 << speaking of hands, pizarro, and hopping the fence: so what'd be the plan here? Get a republican hardware shop up and running in uruguay? Or perhaps have a second pair of hands on ground to help with pizarro affairs? | [13:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-03-27 17:23 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (i kinda suspect BingoBoingo would do a lot better with a partner on the grounds, tbh) << I suspect similar | [13:53] |
| lobbes: | I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day | [13:54] |
| asciilifeform: | lobbes: immediate next item is a pilot plant of 'apu1' and x64 boxen, so as to have what to rent out, we're at ~capacity | [13:54] |
| asciilifeform: | lobbes: i will not go as far as to say 'hardware shop? poppycock' but it is roughly similar to idea of setting one up on the moon | [13:55] |
| asciilifeform: | the difficulty of getting iron over the fence isn't even the worst thing, but rather 'who's to buy' | [13:56] |
| asciilifeform: | the idjit orcs want 'ipnoje', and that's afaik it | [13:56] |
| lobbes: | hm, yeah, I guess so. Same as in usg all independent harware shops disappearing | [13:57] |
| asciilifeform: | i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner ) | [13:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mp_en_viaje> how's pizarro doing these days btw << Waiting for alf hands. In the interim about to send invoices. | [13:59] |
| asciilifeform: | lobbes: i used to frequent such shops. they're all gone nao. from elementary 'giant sat in the chair' dynamic. | [13:59] |
| asciilifeform: | nobody who has to pay to upkeep a shop, can price-compete with lulazon, lulzbay, etc | [13:59] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the idea is of course to foster communities, rather than try and find communities t o exploit. | [14:03] |
| mp_en_viaje: | granted, this is a toilsome approach. | [14:03] |
| asciilifeform: | rright, esp. if what you've to work with, is ~argentines | [14:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | <asciilifeform> i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner ) << Well in their language they call the mains "luz" so it does the lights. | [14:04] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: funnily enuff old sovok folx also | [14:04] |
| asciilifeform: | mains flicker off, 'свет пропал' ( light has gone! ) | [14:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | Electric utility's headquarters naturally is "Palacio de la Luz" | [14:05] |
| * BingoBoingo | inclined to see if bicycle guy can handle this month's Datacenter payment in light of the growing divide between Republican exchange rate and heathen exchange rate | [14:11] |
| mp_en_viaje: | one can pick his orc, of course. | [14:11] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, i got gas stove here. what's wrong with that ? | [14:12] |
| BingoBoingo: | Here they use the tanks inside. The pipe cas network is tiny with little coverage. | [14:13] |
| mp_en_viaje: | camping@home! | [14:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | "Supergas" they call it | [14:13] |
| asciilifeform: | mp_en_viaje: aha BingoBoingo already answr'd. they're using bottled gas | [14:13] |
| asciilifeform: | and apparently their hands grow from arse , regularly set flat on fire | [14:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | Campfire for heat. Camp stove for cook... | [14:14] |
| mp_en_viaje: | minisuper gas or plainly super gas ? | [14:14] |
| mp_en_viaje: | luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super | [14:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | Mundanely super gas | [14:14] |
| mp_en_viaje: | somewhat super could we say. | [14:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | I've not dealth with the stuff much here. Habitation module has electric stove built in. | [14:15] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913031 << If you've got some hands what Pizarro can really use is help on the outreach and conversion front. I'd also suggest making a run to Uruguay before picking Uruguay as your escape hole. | [14:19] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day | [14:19] |
| lobbes: | I may indeed take some time in the next months to make a trip down there at least. If anything to clear my head and sort some things out (plus, I've never met another Republican in the meat, so there is also that plus) | [14:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mp_en_viaje> luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super << I believe the sight that most excited ben_vulpes down here was "Supermercado Winn-Dixie" | [14:33] |
| mp_en_viaje: | lol | [14:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | lobbes: Well, if you want beaches November to Early December is the time. Late January on into the summer heat makes the cyanobacteria bloom. Late December to Mid January is the tourist high season. | [14:34] |
| lobbes: | growing up near beaches, I got bored of them fast can take em or leave em. and with my pale complexion the idea of visiting uruguay in the cooler months actually sounds nice | [14:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | who was talking about living off tourist cunny anyways ? | [14:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | week or two ago. | [14:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | whaack was | [14:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910907 | [14:43] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-02 18:07 whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere | [14:43] |
| diana_coman: | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913013 -> not exactly *that* style afaik though some "new ruins" exist as do old and then older ruins too basically have your choice of ruins, year and style. | [14:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-13 17:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc ) | [14:44] |
| asciilifeform: | nobody can beat europistan for ruins.. | [14:44] |
| asciilifeform: | esp. 'post-sovok' lands | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | well, Romanians basically had the germans imported precisely to build some towns finally so in those terms ruins other than the roman ones are relatively recent anyway. | [14:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | In local news fuckers are preparing to start importing live cattle from Brasil to feed the domestic market, and these same fuckers are lamenting how "expensive" Uruguay's beef is. https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/uruguay-a-un-paso-de-importar-ganado-en-pie-desde-brasil-2019513145826 | [14:47] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: feedlot, naturally ? | [14:47] |
| asciilifeform: | 'giant' dun ever stop looking for new, yet-unbroken chairs to sit down in, eh | [14:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: unsure about the feedlot part, but Brasil does the Zebu cattle. | [14:48] |
| asciilifeform: | wassat? | [14:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | The Indian kind that takes the heat up there better | [14:49] |
| asciilifeform: | a | [14:49] |
| asciilifeform: | there's a sov-legend re how hrusch send to cuba a boat of cows, as gift. unsurprisingly -- all died within weeks, not being of a breed that can stomach the tropics. then coupla yrs later on official visit, gromyko asks to see the herd. is told 'they cannot take the sun, we pasture'em at night'. skeptical, but let matter drop. | [14:51] |
| BingoBoingo: | A number of the policy wank locals find it "problematic" Uruguay's beef is more expensive than Brazil et al's beef completely neglecting Uruguay's beef sells as the premium product since Argentina fucked theirs up. | [14:55] |
| mp_en_viaje: | right, whaack | [15:01] |
| mp_en_viaje: | BingoBoingo, tbh sounds like cattle laundering scheme. | [15:04] |
| mp_en_viaje: | get veals, feedlot in brazil, export to uruguay, keep 3-6 months, bucher and sell as uy non-feedlot. | [15:05] |
| asciilifeform: | when and where no lord to round up the culprits an' pour molten lead down their throats, this kinda thing is as inevitable as sawdust bread, i suspect | [15:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | Supposedly the imported cattle are going to be sold domestic market only, but the fact it so very obviously sounds like a cattle laundering scheme makes the idea retarded. | [15:08] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i suspect it's an 'already doing' being presented as 'idea' | [15:08] |
| BingoBoingo: | Possible | [15:11] |
| asciilifeform: | consider, also, a feedlot is moar or less an omnidirectional biowarfare laboratory. proper lord would carpet bomb'em when found. | [15:11] |
| asciilifeform: | ditto 'battery chicken' etc | [15:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | Brazil is roughly on par with the US when it comes to such agricrimes. | [15:13] |
| asciilifeform: | 'tis funny, to asciilifeform , lotsa whining re sub-measurable leaks from nuke plants, ~0 whine re 'feed meat antibiotic by the tonne' | [15:14] |
| BingoBoingo: | "Chicken in every pot" What the fuck did the pot do to deserve a chicken | [15:14] |
| asciilifeform: | rright, a chicken in erry indoor propane grill lol | [15:16] |
| mp_en_viaje: | asciilifeform, you gotta get a gram by prescription, feedlot can get literal tonne. | [15:36] |
| asciilifeform: | aaha | [15:36] |
| asciilifeform: | elementarily could not have 'feedlot' without this , would simply turn into gangrenous mass in short time | [15:38] |
| mp_en_viaje: | in other lulz, https://pubpress.net/houseads/2017/11/22/hiring/house/en/300x250_mrec_blue_php01.png | [15:39] |
| asciilifeform: | ugh | [15:40] |
| feedbot: | http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html << The Tar Pit -- Temeschwar | [16:31] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ lol almost exactly asciilifeform's photoroll, if you subtract the 'hinterlands' (where imho the most interesting oddities) | [16:57] |
| asciilifeform: | http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-523.0-523.215 << even i know answr to this riddle -- it's because timis is in austria-hungary , and not really ro at all | [16:58] |
| asciilifeform: | line on map moved, is all | [16:59] |
| asciilifeform: | http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-531.0-531.297 << holyfuq. asciilifeform was leaving, thought 'hm, oughta have tried the trams, are they same as on home planet -- oughta be, given as all of our trams were imported from ro' but apparently nodice | [17:00] |
| asciilifeform: | the notion of 'members only' tram, is so preposterous, that i suspect outright sabotage, a la 1960s usa (where various skulduggery resulted in the complete disappearance of the tram -- and in certain places , of ~all public transport -- to prop up 'auto industry' ) | [17:15] |
| asciilifeform: | ( today's familiar 'office jerb -- mortgaged house -- car on credit' triangle, as documented by orlov, was being constructed then ) | [17:16] |
| asciilifeform: | planned and successfully-executed re-introduction of serfdom. public transport had to die first, 'or plebs could go without car'. then, cities had to be turned into bmore darkest africa, to nail the possibility of living close enuff to 'office' to walk. and so on. | [17:20] |
| asciilifeform: | 'tis hilarious, this seq. of amputations. the capitalists, terrified of urban unionized workers, abolished... industry, and work. ( replaced with 'office plankton' system. ) result is present-day usgistan. | [17:22] |
| asciilifeform: | i.e. they took http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747451 for an instruction manual ! | [17:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-07-07 11:21 mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a countrys industrial base, telling him that I have never in my life heard such idiocy | [17:24] |
| asciilifeform: | an' they didn't do it to http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747456 , either, cuz 'ohnoez, agro-peasants also could be 'red'! ' | [17:28] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-07-07 11:23 mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever. | [17:28] |
| asciilifeform: | so no moar workers, no moar peasants, instead homo redditus subsisting off arse-mouth system . | [17:29] |
| asciilifeform: | curious folx, the anglos. it's almost as if they consciously went for a slow-motion poincare scheme. | [17:34] |
| a111: | Logged on 2012-11-19 07:25 mircea_popescu: "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone" | [17:34] |
| * asciilifeform | brb:meat | [17:34] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile in olds : a pretty good likbez re capacitor rot . | [18:50] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-05-11 22:39 asciilifeform: i wouldn't bother 'recapping' a 100bux konsoomer board, typically | [18:50] |
| asciilifeform: | in particular interesting detail , being that 'capacitance meter' may still show in-spec value for dead unit (which perished in such a way that only ~impedance~ has increased) | [18:51] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, in unsorted lulz, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-19789 | [18:57] |
| asciilifeform: | at some pt ('in peacetime!'(tm)) asciilifeform is gonna have to crib mp_en_viaje's 'recent comments' wp feature. | [19:00] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/05/sweden-to-put-in-a-competing-assange-extradition-claim/ << Qntra -- Sweden To Put In A Competing Assange Extradition Claim | [19:02] |
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