Forum logs for 11 Sep 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1429...4943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( RU) [00:49]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1474...5849 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( RU) [00:49]
asciilifeform: in other crippleware lulz, >> 'Tesla used to offer the option to buy a Model S or Model X with a 75 kWh battery pack software-locked at a capacity of 60 kWh. The option would result in a less expensive vehicle with a shorter range, but the option to pay to remotely enable the longer range at a later stage. ... Tesla had temporarily unlocked the remaining 15 kWh of the car’s software-limited battery pack opt [10:06]
asciilifeform: ion to facilitate the owner’s evacuation. ... the company has put in place the emergency measure to temporarily extend the range of the vehicles of Tesla owners in the path of Hurricane Irma. ... a Tesla owner in a mandatory evacuation zone required another ~30 more miles of range to optimize his evacuation route in the traffic and they reached out to Tesla who agreed to a temporary access to the full 75 kWh of energy in the batter [10:06]
asciilifeform: y pack, an upgrade that has cost between $4,500 and $9,000 depending on the model and time of upgrade.' [10:06]
shinohai: LOL [10:07]
shinohai: Such shitware [10:07]
asciilifeform: hey if microshit can, why not everybody. [10:07]
asciilifeform: sell sofa with spikes, retract spikes for $1/hr [10:08]
shinohai: This reminds me of the tractor thread. [10:08]
asciilifeform: ( and offload cost of chasing and arresting 'dmca violator' folx who offer to saw spikes off, to the great inca, naturally ) [10:08]
asciilifeform: shinohai: possibly because it is exactly the tractor thread. all intellectualpropertytardisms are ~exactly same, under the surface. [10:09]
asciilifeform: as pictured in [10:11]
phf: << [10:19]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-11 14:08 asciilifeform: sell sofa with spikes, retract spikes for $1/hr [10:19]
asciilifeform: phf: was in the l0gz iirc [10:43]
shinohai: !~bible Ecclesiastes 1:9 [10:43]
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Ecclesiastes 1:9 :: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. [10:43]
asciilifeform: !!up fromloper [13:28]
deedbot: fromloper voiced for 30 minutes. [13:28]
asciilifeform: fromloper: hello ? [13:29]
fromloper: good day! [13:29]
asciilifeform: fromloper: who might you be ? [13:29]
shinohai: Greets [13:29]
fromloper: Bitcoin hodler bcash dumper [13:29]
fromloper: I could use some advice wrt the latter: do I need to spend my BTC to new addresses, before bumping my crash? [13:30]
fromloper: *bcrash [13:30]
asciilifeform: fromloper: depends with what you do the dumping [13:30]
asciilifeform: fromloper: if entirely on your own iron, and with proggy that you audited -- then theoretically no [13:30]
fromloper: I want to sent my bcrash to an exchange, and sell it for BTC [13:30]
asciilifeform: fromloper: it doesn't hurt to move the btc first. [13:31]
fromloper: interesting - this is using Armory on an offline machine [13:31]
fromloper: gotcha - the bcrash will still be on the original addresses, even after the BTC has been moved off? [13:32]
asciilifeform: iirc armory is not a full node, and relies on full nodes belonging to third parties for all of the mechanics [13:32]
fromloper: yea, it runs off a Core node [13:32]
fromloper: (I will be running trb soon, though!) [13:32]
fromloper: just wanna dump this awful shit ASAP [13:32]
asciilifeform: move the btc using a trb node [13:32]
asciilifeform: then move the shitcoins to a gox, and sell. [13:32]
fromloper: gotcha - but it's still safe to send the bcrash to gox before moving the BTC? [13:33]
asciilifeform: also take note of the fact that a shitcoin node can take more than a week to sync, the thing is quite buggy and slow [13:33]
shinohai: imo you are completely safe if you move true btc to new addy, then import keyz to bcrash [13:33]
fromloper: ye, I should be able to jerryrig the whole thing without installing/syncing the bcrash node [13:34]
asciilifeform: fromloper: again depends WITH WHAT. if you haven't audited the thing you are importing the privkey into, you are best off moving the btc first. [13:34]
fromloper: it's a little tricky, in that my BTC are stored on Armory paper backups [13:35]
fromloper: so at the moment, I need to import via that wallet software [13:35]
asciilifeform: 1) move the btc using trb, to new addr 2) import (now empty on btc chain) privkey into shitcoin node 3) empty the shitcoins into a gox 4) sell [13:35]
fromloper: Any reason why you're moving the BTC first? [13:36]
asciilifeform: fromloper: because chances are that you haven't read every line of the proggy that you are about to throw the privkey into [13:36]
fromloper: that's true! [13:36]
asciilifeform: if it still holds btc, theoretically boobytrapped shitcoin client can send priv to enemy [13:36]
shinohai: Leaving yer keyz exposed [13:36]
fromloper: Thanks a lot, gentlemen [13:36]
fromloper: after I'm done with this shitfest, will be geting into WoT and tinkering with a FUCKGOATS [13:37]
shinohai: Nice! [13:37]
asciilifeform: fromloper: register a key, it doesn't take long [13:38]
asciilifeform: then i will rate you [13:38]
fromloper: I've got a key - is there a FAQ? [13:38]
asciilifeform: !!help [13:38]
deedbot: [13:38]
fromloper: thanks [13:38]
ben_vulpes: chimps chimping: [13:39]
asciilifeform: Patriot Prayer Movement << lol!! [13:40]
ben_vulpes: funny things about the bezos post reportolade: only outlet to report on "clashes between left and right" and not "violent leftists attack police" also completely fail to report that the truck in question was under assault when it got in gear (hence the driver was released) [13:40]
ben_vulpes: shinohai: dibs [13:42]
shinohai: dibs? [13:42]
shinohai: If you mean for a Qntra, well you are the Portland Bureau [13:43]
fromloper: I'd like to register under a different nick - do I need to re-enter the channel to do so? [13:43]
shinohai: fromloper: just change with /nick [13:43]
asciilifeform: fromloper: aha [13:43]
rothbart: do I upload the public key here? [13:47]
shinohai: yes [13:47]
rothbart: and is it the KeyID, or Fingerprint? [13:47]
shinohai: No, you need to paste the entire public key [13:48]
asciilifeform: paste the pubkey [13:48]
asciilifeform: then !!register theresultingurl [13:48]
ben_vulpes: hm seems like the rock throwing started after the truck went after some antifa [13:49]
rothbart: !!register [13:51]
deedbot: 410951F4EED9132643015A058B46D224AE9E116C registered as rothbart. [13:51]
asciilifeform: !!rate rothbart 1 new blood [13:52]
deedbot: Get your OTP: [13:52]
asciilifeform: !!v BA2C756B85B9BB6BEF9748E28C899D691E3D0D3D0A258ED4CD000D3F09C3290F [13:52]
deedbot: asciilifeform rated rothbart 1 << new blood [13:52]
asciilifeform: rothbart: you can self-voice now [13:52]
rothbart: great - do I need to decrypt a message from deedbot to verify? [13:53]
asciilifeform: correct [13:53]
asciilifeform: try it [13:53]
rothbart: I got this from deedbot: is this the message to decrypt? [13:58]
asciilifeform: aha [13:59]
asciilifeform: then you privmsg deedbot !!v whatyougotfromthedecrypt [13:59]
asciilifeform: and it voices you. [13:59]
rothbart: ok, thanks - I'm gonna redo this on my linux box [14:11]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1272...8187 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( DE) [14:16]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1328...6593 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( DE) [14:16]
ben_vulpes: !~later tell BingoBoingo [14:44]
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded. [14:44]
BingoBoingo: "An alarming moment came toward the end of the day when a man driving a black Chevrolet truck adorned with American flags and a Confederate flag decal" << AHAm pickup truck flag index! [14:52]
ben_vulpes: oh shit i forgot about the pickup truck flag index [14:53]
mircea_popescu: hhhola [14:55]
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu [14:55]
BingoBoingo: Good morning [14:55]
ben_vulpes: buenos dias [14:56]
shinohai: Rico suave [14:56]
mircea_popescu: lmao [14:58]
ben_vulpes: (c-c-c-combo breaker!) [14:59]
mircea_popescu: so in random lulz : later today im meeting this local fellow with whom im going to be making a foundation for the prosecution of the hilary foundation and for the unravelling of what atm seems like a scheme to steal thousandsa of children from poor costa rican mothers for sale on the us market. [14:59]
mircea_popescu: this promises to be one helluva combo breaker. [14:59]
ben_vulpes: whoa neat [14:59]
trinque: ah man, glorious. [14:59]
mircea_popescu: rumor level at the moment but a pregnant one [15:00]
mircea_popescu: har har [15:00]
asciilifeform: sale on the us market << lolwat..? organ market ? [15:00]
trinque: asciilifeform: where'd ya think the pederasts get their fucktoys? [15:00]
mircea_popescu: no, adoption market. [15:00]
asciilifeform: trinque: i thought they typically 'ate local' [15:01]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: going after the clinton foundation itself? [15:01]
mircea_popescu: there's been a LARGE "party donation for child adoption" DNC scam running throughout the obama term [15:01]
mircea_popescu: started during clinton. [15:01]
mircea_popescu: with the "iron curtain" thing [15:01]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had nfi there were a darkskin kidz adoption demand >0 in usa [15:01]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes first, some local schmucks may be actually seeing the inside of jail. [15:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have nfi about many things! [15:01]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's the racial cuckening in action [15:01]
ben_vulpes: "i'd rather adopt a brown kid. better for the environment." [15:02]
ben_vulpes: "plus my precious unfucked cunt will stay that way" [15:02]
mircea_popescu: he gets it! [15:02]
asciilifeform: the 'ironcurtain kidz' thing was massive and visible to naked eye, and seekreetly made sense to everybody : they were white [15:04]
mircea_popescu: yes. [15:04]
mircea_popescu: but then obama came in and some tards were all liek "oh, brown, same thing" [15:04]
mircea_popescu: turns out it ain't, and it's gonna sting. [15:04]
* asciilifeform pictures the baby-seller in pelevin's 'SNUFF' [15:05]
mircea_popescu: nah, was run like typical pantsuit "legal proceedings" scam. [15:05]
asciilifeform: i.e. like children's crusade ? [15:05]
mircea_popescu: problem is, costa rica is roman law, not common. [15:05]
asciilifeform: 'drop moneys in this funnel here, we promise we'll...' [15:05]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform get corrupt official to declare mother/conditions unfit / get other corrupt official to ship them over. [15:06]
asciilifeform: aaa [15:06]
asciilifeform: usa ( and certain other shitholes within the reich, e.g. sweden ) run an internally-recirculating version of this [15:07]
mircea_popescu: but that works in common system, "oh, aversarial proceedings, we judge the case as is". not here. here, all the officials involved get thrown in jale and THEN!!!! the ustards who took the kids, and the ones who facilitated CAN be prosecuted [15:07]
asciilifeform: where kid is confiscated from 'unfit' untermensch and exported to pantsuit orphanages [15:07]
mircea_popescu: as in the us it's now illegal to rape in a foreign jurisdiciton [15:07]
mircea_popescu: dja know that btw ? [15:07]
asciilifeform: long time nao. and 'rape' means any illicit-per-usg fornication, e.g. just about any fucking in thailand etc [15:08]
mircea_popescu: aaaaaha. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: including -- this. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: antischindler list in the making, if all goes well. but anyway, lettuce not get ahead of selves. [15:08]
asciilifeform: i dun think the ustard side gives much damn re indictments in bananistan tho [15:09]
mircea_popescu: o nononono. [15:09]
asciilifeform: can't picture they would go there [15:09]
mircea_popescu: indictments in connecticut circuit court [15:09]
mircea_popescu: for breaking the costa rican law. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: this is a thing, believe it or not! [15:09]
asciilifeform: i'd buy a ticket to watch this. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: ikr. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: well, you can all donate once it's live. [15:09]
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform tested various proggies purporting to extract utxoset. each and every one, shite. e.g. 'bitcoin-abe' works in geological speed, and promises to produce multi-TB sql turd [15:19]
asciilifeform: ( on which operations will presumably take week+ each ) [15:19]
mircea_popescu: uxto set is large ftr. [15:20]
asciilifeform: a whole army of folx seem to have worked very hard indeed to make this as painful as possible [15:20]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: coupla GB, if represented as naked tx [15:20]
mircea_popescu: you recall discussion re practical limit on bitcoin splittage from like 2015. [15:20]
mircea_popescu: yes. [15:20]
asciilifeform: a 1995 hdd ain't 'large' in my eyes [15:21]
asciilifeform: but admittedly subjective. [15:21]
mircea_popescu: > gb item is large yes. 700mb film is normal, 2.1 gb large. [15:21]
asciilifeform: ftr my internal heuristic is 'if it fits in main ram of my smallest boxes, it ain't large' [15:22]
asciilifeform: this is a practical consideration, if it sits down in ram, it is practical to arithmetize over. [15:22]
mircea_popescu: i can see it [15:23]
* asciilifeform historically sweated many times to solve problem which consisted of 'make this unmanageable item manageable, i.e. ram-fitting at reasonable cost' [15:23]
asciilifeform: for this particular experiment i am only interested in the pubkeys. which i expect will - yes - sit down in the space of a '700mb warez film'... [15:26]
mircea_popescu: just barely, yes [15:26]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i had nfi there were a darkskin kidz adoption demand >0 in usa << Popular in establishment hellholes like Amherst Massachussets. It's the sort fo thing you see in Ladue, Missouri (rich liberal scum), but not really in Town and Country, Missouri (Money from business interests) [15:32]
asciilifeform: it dun explain why they gotta be imported from bananistan tho -- wat, not enough made locally ? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the narcissist autist works, do you ? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: "oh, why must go to seminar on dating advertised on reddit, to find out where womenz are. NEVER STEPPED OUT OF HOUSE ?!?!?!!" [15:34]
mircea_popescu: you orc you. those don't cunt. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: what, talk to woman ?! [15:34]
asciilifeform: i always pictured those as 'learn how to GET RICH FAST' etc scam variant. 'LEARN WHERE EASY GOLD IS' [15:35]
asciilifeform: 'no panning required, shoots out of the ground' [15:35]
mircea_popescu: mmm. [15:38]
mircea_popescu: they. literally. with no embelishment of rhetoric whatsoever. CAN. NOT. interact with unknowns. AT ALL. zilp zero zilch nada. [15:38]
mircea_popescu: you know the joke with the national woman on a deserted island with a bunch of male compatriots ? [15:39]
asciilifeform: aha [15:39]
mircea_popescu: well, i'll recount it anyway for reocrds. [15:39]
mircea_popescu: so, frenchwoman : oh, it was fabulous. during the day jean-luc anchored me with his dick up my butt and held me up while pierre fucked me standing while at night they switched. [15:40]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it dun explain why they gotta be imported from bananistan tho -- wat, not enough made locally ? << local are known quantity. Further away allows for greater imagining [15:40]
mircea_popescu: russian womahn : oh it was terrible. during the night they took turns fucking me and during the day they held soviet committee meetings to infiereze my whorishness. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: english rose : oh, what a bore. nobody knew anyone who could introduce us so we just walked around the jungle. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: THAT is what fucking amherst mass tards managed to reconstruct, it's what "average" and "well meaning" white idiot is today. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: can't simply rape and pillage, MUST have someone else do that and regurgitate the proceeds in their open craws. [15:42]
mircea_popescu: and, make no mistake, there is no choice and no other consideration in this inability. it is inability, plain and simple. much like the quadriplegic isn't moving his limbs not because "he thinks it better for the environment". fucking can not. [15:42]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no, the opposite i say! locals are unknown ~and unknowable~. imports can be usda certified. donate 100k to dnc, get a GENUINE brown kid. you know it's genuine by the... wait for it... FALSIFYING PAPERWORK ATTENDANT! [15:43]
mircea_popescu: this is what makes cambridge degree REAL in their eyes : that it's BOTH a) evidently false and b) printed by mit. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: non-a is "threatening" aka "i don't understand what mp says!!!" non-b is "unreal". [15:45]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AH, well different parts known an unknowable. Local "has a chance", this is known. He could get mega sportsball bucks, but lacks papers showing doesn't suck and may even be 3/4 white. [15:45]
mircea_popescu: more importantly, has recourse. not in any practical sense, but imagological, "your place sucks and i hate you". [15:46]
mircea_popescu: WHAT THEN!!! [15:46]
BingoBoingo: Well consider 2017 America on 1980's America "Perhaps most horrifying to modern sensibilities is that there is no talk of birth control, condoms, or a realization that a circle jerk would have sufficed." [15:48]
mircea_popescu: heh [15:48]
BingoBoingo: re:Stephen King orgy scene [15:48]
mircea_popescu: i'm not much of a fan/reader of the blind guy from mass. [15:49]
BingoBoingo: Eh, he's going through a turn as fad of the day in fake news discussions. [15:50]
mircea_popescu: i think i actually spent more time with the guy irl than reading his books, amusinglty enough [15:52]
mircea_popescu: by virture of having dinner once. [15:52]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, retailers put up Halloween two weeks ago which means last week some studio re-filmed one of his stories. [15:53]
mircea_popescu: oh right. [15:53]
mircea_popescu: do they also do what was her name for the february one, what's it called... [15:54]
BingoBoingo: So now there's all the problematizing about how halfway through the book all the kids fucked to cement a pact or something [15:54]
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck, check me out, i'm like senile over here [15:54]
mircea_popescu: brb [15:54]
mircea_popescu: so : do they also do sandra brown for valentine's day ? [15:54]
* shinohai loves today's classic trilema header .... I mean DAT ASS! [15:55]
mircea_popescu: mmmm [15:55]
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking cool headers i amassed huh! nice deal. [15:56]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so : do they also do sandra brown for valentine's day ? << Mebbe? [15:56]
mircea_popescu: almost like a gosplan. [15:57]
BingoBoingo: Relatit [16:04]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [16:05]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4191.8, vol: 11460.30700070 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4182.0, vol: 32149.81407597 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3944.898468, vol: 19232.47570000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4213.1, vol: 4400.86329613 | Volume-weighted last average: 4117.89158573 [16:06]
mircea_popescu: cool deal [16:15]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-11 17:37 fromloper: after I'm done with this shitfest, will be geting into WoT and tinkering with a FUCKGOATS [16:15]
asciilifeform: pretty strange, d00d regged and then... vanished [16:17]
mircea_popescu: << the disadvantage of being nazi state mouthpiece is you end up the jewish "owner" of der sturmer. [16:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-11 17:40 ben_vulpes: funny things about the bezos post reportolade: only outlet to report on "clashes between left and right" and not "violent leftists attack police" also completely fail to report that the truck in question was under assault when it got in gear (hence the driver was released) [16:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what is to vanish here ? [16:18]
asciilifeform: was speaking of the fromloper/rothbart one [16:18]
mircea_popescu: yes. just happen yest [16:19]
mircea_popescu: and in other hatefacts, [16:22]
mircea_popescu: * pete_dushenski is now known as Guest66666 >> heh [16:31]
BingoBoingo: << Anyone in Airstrip 1 to confirm? [16:34]
mircea_popescu: what's residence needed for ? ~nothing made in english since 2001 has any basis in sanity, it's 100% the pantsuit lulz. [16:35]
mircea_popescu: imaginary women, imaginary relations of power, imagined nonsense. [16:36]
BingoBoingo: Residence is needed for the "OMG still resident" factor [16:38]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:38]
mircea_popescu: take stephen fry as a fine example. cancerous fag has been doing anti-reality nonsense since the 80s [16:42]
mircea_popescu: recall that bit where he and laurie "don't understand" how privatization works ? [16:42]
mircea_popescu: and i mean basic shit, "oh, if you have shares in the crown thaty'll be quite enough". really bitch, i get shit for free at walmart for owning walmart stock, that's what it is ?! [16:43]
BingoBoingo: lol [16:45]
mircea_popescu: "oh, he's funny". no, he's not funny. "but he's so scholarly" right, and if i went to nigeria i'd be so godly. [16:45]
mircea_popescu: "but he's a close friend of the royals!!!" right. [16:46]
BingoBoingo: Some people's cocaine is direly deficient in acephate [16:47]
mircea_popescu: some people are just direly deficient. [16:47]
BingoBoingo: Google's answer to "Is Acephate Toxic" >> "It is considered non-phytotoxic on many crop plants. Acephate and its primary metabolite, methamidophos, are toxic to Heliothis spp. that are considered resistant to other organophosphate insecticides. Acephate emits toxic fumes of various oxides of phosphorus, nitrogen, and sulfur when heated to decomposition." [16:48]
BingoBoingo: OMG Google doesn't care about (black) people! [16:48]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what's the connection between acephate and black people? [16:49]
BingoBoingo: Back people work in southern states and love using "Surrender" (TM)(R) granules labeled for outdoor fire and mound control... indoors and generally everywhere. [16:51]
BingoBoingo: And they'll bring it to their relatives in northern states who will also use that shit indoors [16:51]
BingoBoingo: And they'll insist "This shit works great on roaches" [16:53]
BingoBoingo: And then you write off entire classes of residential structure as habitable when enough people have asked to establish a trend... [16:54]
* mircea_popescu prefers geckos [16:54]
BingoBoingo: But your habitation is clean enough for geckos [16:55]
mircea_popescu: yest a frog, a pretty tiny tree guy, climed all the way up to the top level terrace thing, 10 meters. was sitting on a (wooden) chair going "sup ?" [16:56]
BingoBoingo: Sweet, one of those neon colored guys? [16:58]
mircea_popescu: very shiny green [16:59]
mircea_popescu: there's also a deep red one, but i've not yet seen it. [17:00]
BingoBoingo: Awesome [17:00]
deedbot: << Qntra - Another Trezor "Hardware Wallet" Default Flaw: Trezord.exe Phones Home [17:01]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:01]
mircea_popescu: "flaw" eh [17:01]
asciilifeform: for the LUVV OF gAwD, MONTREZOR!111 [17:04]
mircea_popescu: i like how they add "d" to things know. [17:05]
mircea_popescu: IT IS MORE SCIENTIFICd! [17:05]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can haz sores of the noose plz ? [17:05]
asciilifeform: and can somebody say why the thing even needed driver ? [17:05]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Some post linking to their github [17:06]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:06]
mircea_popescu: what do you mean why it needed a driver! IT IS MORE SERIOUS BUSINESS WITH DRIVER! [17:06]
asciilifeform: lolyes [17:06]
asciilifeform: recall the catv folx or who was it. [17:06]
mircea_popescu: dis alf, he dun understand anythings. [17:06]
BingoBoingo: [17:06]
asciilifeform: static const auto https_cert_uri = "" [17:07]
asciilifeform: static const auto https_privkey_uri = "" [17:07]
asciilifeform: cert_data = http_client::request_uri_to_string(https_cert_uri) [17:08]
asciilifeform: privkey_data = http_client::request_uri_to_string(https_privkey_uri) [17:08]
asciilifeform: pretty great. [17:08]
BingoBoingo: Updated, this is in all their versions [17:08]
mircea_popescu: im sure it was an accident that didn't happen and doesn't mean anything. [17:08]
mircea_popescu: CERTAINLY not anything like "hey, they told you this in 2014" [17:08]
BingoBoingo: But 2014 is like the 1960's of Bitcoin. Ancient history!!! [17:09]
asciilifeform: i can't seem to find a time when the thing wasn't a screaming joke, e.g. , , [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2014-08-29 19:26 asciilifeform: from the published circuit, it seems to be asking for it. [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2015-09-22 03:01 asciilifeform: speaking of, last i checked, 'trezor' was still reflashable from the usb jack. [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2015-12-27 16:07 jurov: as predicted by alf [17:10]
mircea_popescu: aha [17:11]
asciilifeform: but, interestingly, a seemingly indestructible lulzcow [17:11]
asciilifeform: ( from lack of alternatives ? from gavin endorsements ? wai? ) [17:11]
mircea_popescu: yes. because they just want the facts see [17:11]
mircea_popescu: THEY WILL MAKE OWN DECISIONS [17:11]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from lack of information or a thing to process it with. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: why did the gringo tards sit with me at casino table, not notice THEY are losing ? [17:12]
asciilifeform: i would ask 'what's to keep some unrelated d00d from making walletrons that simply talk over rs232..' but then remembered that it is probably same thing that keeps'em from making rng where ditto despite how OMFG WE PUBLISHED DESIGN [17:12]
mircea_popescu: they cnat raed [17:13]
asciilifeform: cnat read just fine when it's gavin talkin' [17:13]
mircea_popescu: besides, st. clinton promised them they won't have to. [17:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. just, when gavin's talking it's impossible to tyell if they read or underlined. [17:13]
mircea_popescu: whole definition of being a gavin is above. "speak so nobody can tell if the "audience" listens or not"\ [17:13]
mircea_popescu: life experience based degrees too! [17:14]
asciilifeform: << lollamatic, support for segshitness etc [17:18]
asciilifeform: hey dontcha lust to buy gadget for producing signatures so you can THEN THROW THEM AWAY lol [17:19]
asciilifeform: oh hey and built-in support for ethertardium, 1000+loc's worth [17:20]
mircea_popescu: sure. [17:20]
mircea_popescu: locs are free!!1 [17:20]
BingoBoingo: lols just wanna be free [17:44]
BingoBoingo: "University relationships sometimes never last longer than university, but that hasn’t stopped the hook-up between the son of Israeli PM Yair Netanyahu, 23, and his fellow student Norwegian Sandra Leikanger, 25, stirring up all sorts of political dissent. Because she’s not Jewish. " [17:45]
BingoBoingo: "Also note that the service employees union is providing logistical support." >> [17:57]
asciilifeform: !#s [18:25]
a111: 1 result for "", [18:25]
asciilifeform: ^ lulzy and not wholly uninteresting www [18:25]
asciilifeform: e.g. [18:32]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And solar shade hokum [18:38]
mod6: evenin' [20:17]
asciilifeform: ohai mod6 [20:17]
mod6: how goes? [20:20]
asciilifeform: experimenting... [20:21]
mod6: nice [20:21]
* mod6 reads l0g [20:21]
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> But 2014 is like the 1960's of Bitcoin. Ancient history!!! << seems like yesterday [20:24]
PeterL: << how do you type * without hitting the shift key? [20:47]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-10 20:12 asciilifeform: we're talking about simple ops, i should not have to touch fucking shift key [20:47]
asciilifeform: PeterL: numpad [20:47]
PeterL: somehow I didn't even think of that, I never use the numpad *! [20:48]
asciilifeform: lol [20:48]
PeterL: plus, it is waaaay over there, isn't it easier to just hit shift-8 ? [20:48]
shinohai: I mean, it's just a few inches to the right - not a trip to Saturn. [20:49]
PeterL: now I am wondering, what else does my keyboard have that I never use because I don't even notice it? [20:49]
PeterL: hmm, here's another key I never use, what does "Caps Lock" even do? [20:50]
asciilifeform: now that one i dun have. [20:50]
asciilifeform: nor want. [20:50]
asciilifeform: shinohai: the comp is a machine that MUST ADAPT TO THE MAN, rather than the man to the comp. which is why it is infuriating idiocy , when an op that is done 9000 time daily ( say parens ) lives behind a metakey, while microshitian idiocies like 'printscreen' get own key [20:53]
asciilifeform: i do not tolerate this in my house, and cannot picture why anybody else does. [20:53]
PeterL: I suppose people who are not programmers do not use ( or ) much, but does anybody actually use [ and ] any more often? [21:01]
PeterL: the other option is to think more, type less, and then it does not matter so much where any particular key is [21:03]
asciilifeform: PeterL: ready to have yer keyboard confiscated and replaced with telegraph key ? [21:04]
asciilifeform: PeterL: if not, why not ? [21:04]
asciilifeform: why not carry the 'think more, type less' thing to logical conclusion. [21:04]
PeterL: or, to take that to extremes, modern man is just a consumer of social media, does not need to type anything, just poke touchscreen and moo [21:04]
asciilifeform: believe or not , i have one of even those , too [21:04]
asciilifeform: i even have comps with no input mechanism at all!111 [21:05]
trinque: << reflects poorly on the world in which we live that there isn't a bespoke keyboard-maker. [22:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 00:53 asciilifeform: shinohai: the comp is a machine that MUST ADAPT TO THE MAN, rather than the man to the comp. which is why it is infuriating idiocy , when an op that is done 9000 time daily ( say parens ) lives behind a metakey, while microshitian idiocies like 'printscreen' get own key [22:38]
kanzure: i would also like to register a complaint about lack of n-key rollover and also another complaint about keyboard keypress registration latency, thanks [22:43]
BingoBoingo: mod6: Seriously [22:48]
asciilifeform: i solved this by doing the model-f thing. [23:12]
asciilifeform: but -- noshit -- this dun scale. [23:12]
* trinque has keyboard remapped to hell, but would be nice to design the thing around the designated key functions. [23:22]
asciilifeform: trinque: nothing beats modelf + the custom controller imho [23:23]
asciilifeform: << thread [23:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 03:21 mod6: which ones does alf like? [23:24]
asciilifeform: ( don't be confused by the external resemblance to 'terminal model-m'. mechanics entirely different. no rivets, for one thing. ) [23:25]
asciilifeform: phunk phakt : 'f' cost ~2k 1980 usd. [23:26]
trinque: hm yeah, I've only ever clacked on an M. [23:26]
asciilifeform: i muchly prefer the 'f' -- no membrane dome anywhere inside of it, unlike 'm' [23:26]
asciilifeform: and has a couple of kg of iron. [23:27]
asciilifeform: << earlier thread re subj [23:30]
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 17:47 asciilifeform: phf: the hard part is to actually get a hold of a 'model f'. [23:30]
asciilifeform: trinque et al : i often wonder how many people would be prepared to pay what 'bespoke kbd' costs. [23:32]
trinque: I'd pay a grand, why not. paid more than that for shittier items. [23:33]
asciilifeform: ( not much reason to expect that it would cost substantially less than, e.g., bespoke bicycle costs. ) [23:33]
asciilifeform: grand will buy you shite. [23:33]
trinque: but kanzure's calitards can splice wings into my ass on a UBI budget [23:33]
trinque: and in a garage! [23:33]
trinque: anyhow I'd accept the bespokenness of key labels as a start [23:34]
asciilifeform: even this is trickier than first appears [23:35]
asciilifeform: if you, as i do, insist on inset-casting [23:35]
asciilifeform: ( the item where the lettering NEVER wears out, because it is simply the inner layer of the key is black and protrudes just-so ) [23:35]
asciilifeform: ever see a post-1990s kbd that was in use for coupla yrs, the lettering wore off. this dun happen on proper keys. [23:36]
kanzure: i never promised as much [23:36]
kanzure: asciilifeform: give me a system that can do better high-fidelity human data output than a 300 wpm keyboard please. [23:37]
asciilifeform: kanzure: << here ya go [23:37]
asciilifeform: prolly 500+ with skilled operator. [23:37]
kanzure: the twiddler thing? [23:38]
asciilifeform: well a hypothetical 10-finger variant thereof, could [23:38]
asciilifeform: ( w/ up-down-neutral pos. for switches. ) [23:38]
kanzure: also i would like a full key se without extensive modkeys [23:38]
kanzure: *key set [23:38]
asciilifeform: that'd look like e.g. my model-f. [23:39]
asciilifeform: and 'slow' because fingers must after all move laterally [23:40]
asciilifeform: ( i dun need 300 or even 200 'wpm' for anything, so it dunbotherme) [23:40]
kanzure: lateral movement isn't so bad, sean wrona does that all the time [23:40]
asciilifeform: whossat [23:40]
kanzure: fastest gun in the west [23:40]
kanzure: his techique is sort of bizarre and probably caused by brain damage, where he types same words using different fingering each time, and also lots of hovering [23:41]
asciilifeform: that sounds quite like what i do, lol [23:42]
asciilifeform: ( minus the hover, wtf , why wouldja ) [23:42]
kanzure: for the 'lulz' [23:43]
asciilifeform: if you actually NEED 100s-of-wpm for something, as opposed to pissing contests in arena, dwelling on anything other than a bespoke (for YOUR hands) chorder, is lunacy. [23:44]
kanzure: really the only purpose of high wpm that i have figured out is winning irc flame wars [23:44]
asciilifeform: way i see it, cleverly made kbd is really for minimizing flow disruption [23:47]
asciilifeform: rather than naked 'how many buttons can i press per second' [23:47]
asciilifeform: WITHOUT EXCEPTION all currently made input periphs are shite. especially, egregiously, the pedals -- i've thrown away 3 or 4 nao [23:48]
asciilifeform: not a single one permitted RESTING the foot [23:48]
asciilifeform: infuriating rubbish, made by wreckers. [23:49]
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