Forum logs for 10 May 2019

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mp_en_viaje: in other news, i bought a buncha fx amds, 9590s, 9370s, 8370/8350 plus their respective a3+ boards, gigabyte, assus, w/e. [06:44]
mp_en_viaje: eminently these still exist and i daresay might be a good idea for all lords to stock up on some. [06:44]
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, 70-80 MBps ul/dl (via fiber to the door) sets one back ~10 bux/mo in romania. [07:25]
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: bought in ro or what? [08:46]
diana_coman: re fx amds [08:46]
mp_en_viaje: yes. [08:46]
* diana_coman adds to the list for next trip to ro [08:47]
mp_en_viaje: definitely. [08:48]
mp_en_viaje: the only caveat is, cpus come in 140 and 210 watt types, gotta get the adequate boards for each accordingly. [08:49]
mp_en_viaje: generally the 8000s are 140 [08:49]
diana_coman: come to think of it, this "stock up while they still exist" has such a eulora-flavour to it.. [08:58]
feedbot: << The Whet -- Pica pica [09:16]
asciilifeform: << heh, no one ever said 'i wish i hadn't bought these vintage amd' ! [10:05]
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 10:44 mp_en_viaje: in other news, i bought a buncha fx amds, 9590s, 9370s, 8370/8350 plus their respective a3+ boards, gigabyte, assus, w/e. [10:05]
* asciilifeform prefers the ones where mobo takes ecc sticks, however [10:05]
asciilifeform: << hrm, when i was there, billboard promised Gb/s for 9 $ ! [10:06]
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 11:25 mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, 70-80 MBps ul/dl (via fiber to the door) sets one back ~10 bux/mo in romania. [10:06]
asciilifeform: ( ... did that turn into 80Mb/s for 10 when actually try an' buy ? ) [10:07]
asciilifeform: for comparison : asciilifeform pays 100 / mo for 100 (up/down) [10:08]
* asciilifeform did go into a comp shop in timis. it had ridiculous prices, and shit iron. mp_en_viaje evidently did not go to that one. [10:11]
asciilifeform: gypsy flea market had piles and piles of pc iron tho. however, the savages had nfi what it is and how to keep it, dumped it straight into and out of bags with old rusty wrenches, stolen doorknobs, etc. i dun think there was a single straight pin on the cpus. [10:12]
asciilifeform: << subj. [10:12]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 19:23 asciilifeform: [10:12]
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, quite so. [10:17]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, this is actually measured. the item is called "1000" bla bla. what can i tell you. [10:18]
asciilifeform: unusually, asciilifeform's local telco actually delivers the paid-for bw. [10:19]
BingoBoingo: In other news apparently Deloitte surveyed the local kiosko owners [10:19]
mp_en_viaje: i don't think a romanian anything ever delivered what was advertised. like, ever. [10:20]
mp_en_viaje: the government doesn't, nor ever did, either. [10:20]
asciilifeform: not often in usa either, lol [10:20]
* mp_en_viaje is full up on "so and so tax was forever banned with terrible curse. in 1806. in 1814, ruler paid patriarch in constantinople to raise curse, reinstated tax" [10:20]
* BingoBoingo discovered there is one registered chlorine producer in Uruguay. Sells to the water utility at 2000 USD/ton. Exports to Brazil 66 USD/ton. [10:21]
asciilifeform: hey, asciilifeform's 100 bux includes, e.g., a coupla bux of tax imposed during... spanish-amer war [10:21]
asciilifeform: on the telephones of the period. [10:21]
asciilifeform: ( no tax is ever cancelled in ameristan ) [10:22]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! and util cannot import back from br for 'reasons' eh [10:23]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nominal reason is that the plant still exists and would Brasil even bother shipping chlorine to Uruguay (Can't risk Industria Argentina lowballing the bid). [10:24]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: sounds like you built a new base in ro ? ( or didja get that 80Mb/s into a hotel! it did not occur to asciilifeform to try this.. ) [10:24]
mp_en_viaje: new base. [10:25]
asciilifeform: neato [10:25]
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, possible different grades tho. [10:26]
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Very possible [10:26]
spyked: asciilifeform, I am currently downloading (from house mogosanu into slave galley in bucharest) w cca 50MB/s, where the B stands for octets. so defo works as advertised where I am [10:27]
asciilifeform: spyked: there's the matter of consistency also. isp overselling bw is pestilentially common. [10:27]
mp_en_viaje: i don't follow the logic ? 50 is not 1000 ? [10:27]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it'd be 400. ( typically bw advertised in 'megabit', so mB * 8 ) [10:28]
spyked: yep. it's 1000 download/400 upload (tho in truth, I never managed to fill the gigabit download pipe whether it's my equipment or some issue with the isp infrastructure, no idea) [10:29]
mp_en_viaje: spyked, so if you get 50 Mbps (and I get 70-80, no argument), how is this 1Gbps ? [10:30]
mp_en_viaje: aanayways, i shall bbl! [10:30]
asciilifeform: aah so mp_en_viaje measured 70-80 mB (not mb) ? then pretty great [10:32]
asciilifeform: (i.e. that'd be 500-600 mb/s ) [10:32]
* asciilifeform also bbl, teatime. [10:33]
spyked: asciilifeform, they advertise gigabit, but home connections don't "guarantee" that, i.e. it may go to 900 Mbps on a good day. to answer mp_en_viaje's question: the 100 difference (or 1000 - 600 = 400) may be other home users sharing the pipe, QoS policies, peering or simply natbox not being able to process (typically, the home media converter/router they provide is shit) [10:36]
spyked: so the 1000 is just marketing, no argument there. [10:37]
asciilifeform: spyked: aah so it's one of ~those~ , 'x mb/s if neighbours are asleep' [11:12]
asciilifeform: most of what's offered in usa, is like this. [11:12]
BingoBoingo: Well, less people in the US leaving their local isp hubs now [11:25]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, mega bytes [15:43]
mp_en_viaje: and yes, i guess it's closer to $9, 40 lei. [15:48]
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mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in poetry appreciation, "E Roma-n flacari, în lacrimi si-n macel, caci Cezarul o stie mai rea si decât el e vinu-n cupe de-aur si sângele pe scara, desfrâu de vin-nauntru, desfrâu de sânge-afara... Dar astfel precum este: bizar si criminal, Neron e încercarea de-a fi original. [19:38]
mp_en_viaje: " [19:38]
mp_en_viaje: approx, "rome's in flames, in tears and in slaughter, for the Caesar knows it worse than even he himself the wine in golden goblet and blood upon the stairs, debauchery of wine within, debauched blood without... but such as it is, bizarre and criminal, Nero's the attempt at being original." [19:40]
asciilifeform: eminescu ? [19:52]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i would have said 'god's gift to piz' -- but seems like 100% of the afflicted idjits haven't half the brain of a fucking toad [19:53]
asciilifeform: and will simply go to another usg.hoster [19:54]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see if you can find what remains of the subj d00d, write to'im. [19:54]
asciilifeform: ( iirc at one time he linked to my www... why, i never found out ) [19:55]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Banging my head into this wall for the next few hours [19:55]
BingoBoingo: "You set up a decent website? Better make sure its in a foreign land and one which isn't subject to US/EU powers. Better avoid using major payment processors because they will shut you down whilst you're at it." << Fuck You I'm already in Uruguay [19:56]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try an' make it clear, 'no payment processors' etc [19:57]
* asciilifeform goes back to own head bang wall, which is slowly yielding [19:58]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, nah, fellow macedonski [19:58]
asciilifeform: 'кто сказал что бесполезно / биться головой о стену? / хлоп на лоб глаза полезли / лоб становится кременным' (tm)(r) [19:59]
mp_en_viaje: and re the brains of toad : various dorks explained to me why "tjhey don't recommend amd". [19:59]
asciilifeform: ahahahaha [19:59]
asciilifeform: the ones selling the irons?!! [19:59]
mp_en_viaje: fucking mortidifame, romanian rottinculo, "don't recommend". can even lead to bsod!!! [19:59]
mp_en_viaje: well, not to me, but yes. [20:00]
mp_en_viaje: it's not like intel's paying them a drilled penny. but there they sit, true orcs, doing it for free. [20:00]
asciilifeform: let'em think they are being rid of junk. wouldja argue with an idjit who is selling rembrandt as wallpaper. [20:00]
mp_en_viaje: not like they had it. [20:01]
mp_en_viaje: just talkin' in general. [20:01]
* asciilifeform still 'bites elbows' re having missed the period when lispm were being pawned off 'for gold reclamation', for pennies [20:01]
mp_en_viaje: always born too late too soon, eh. [20:02]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, anyway, re "the subject dood" : [20:04]
asciilifeform: aa! [20:04]
mp_en_viaje: they got issues, you understand, the various "liberated" esltards are typically single-issue rebels, they like socialism in general except for ONE THING [20:04]
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje had another piece, where 'went to dentist? why then fight with the anaesthesiologist' etc [20:04]
mp_en_viaje: be that one thing whatever it may be, substantial discussion doesn't usually get too far, because all the other things they not merely tolerate, but rather, very deeply believe in. [20:05]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, quite so. [20:05]
mp_en_viaje: recall the anally loosened jew who was very much against the anally loosening regime "in general" except for the part where "media companies", that part is great ? [20:07]
asciilifeform: there's a mass of these, i dun recall a particular [20:07]
asciilifeform: it's somewhat like tryin' to recall a particular cockroach [20:08]
mp_en_viaje: it's very much the case, that one wants to fuck 16yos, this one wants to collect guns (he sure as fuck won't use), that other one doesn't like ids this other one doesn't like intel, but in the end, out of a hundred issues each of a hundred "rebels" likes 99 just fine. [20:08]
mp_en_viaje: not merely likes, but A would reconstruct. [20:08]
mp_en_viaje: AAA+++ would reconstruct*. [20:09]
asciilifeform: !#s spittoon [20:10]
a111: 80 results for "spittoon", [20:10]
mp_en_viaje: very amusing application of the divide and conquer theory (or, from the converse perspective, obviously enough the rock bottom of all stupidity will appeal to most idiots) [20:10]
asciilifeform: ^ see also. [20:10]
mp_en_viaje: aha, from the yet other polar opposite, quite exactly. [20:10]
asciilifeform: 'just one gulp' [20:11]
* asciilifeform brb:meat [20:11]
mp_en_viaje: and then, of course, gotta count the amusongly strong effects of brainwashing, and carefully curated childhood automatisms. girl who was cutting school to bdsm as a 16yo still has a[n inexplicable] impulse of protest when "underage" sexuality's involved. [20:12]
mp_en_viaje: makes no sense whatsoever upon the slightest examination, but the impulse's there, because social conditioning's a thing. [20:12]
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> asciilifeform, anyway, re "the subject dood" : << Nah, this other one [20:13]
mp_en_viaje: (which, to come round circle, explains what the unpaid orc tards are doing. they're "the voice of their people"). [20:13]
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, oh, is this the collective thingee, mirror of "motley money" or that law blog with "a community" whichever it was ? [20:18]
BingoBoingo: Hard to tell if bonafide collective or guy pretending to be collective [20:19]
BingoBoingo: But deathly allergic to name using [20:19]
mp_en_viaje: o btw, uber ipo'd, utterly failed the groupon mark. [20:21]
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, entirely possible it's the side project of one of the foregoing. "covering all bases", typical approach for ambitious pencilneck in law, finance, etc. [20:22]
mp_en_viaje: << keks. [20:23]
BingoBoingo: Likely. I always suspected some sorta clerk. [20:23]
mp_en_viaje: aaanyways, in unrelated news, seems > /etc/hosts mostly gets rid of those obnoxious "european union thinks it can legislate" popups. [20:25]
asciilifeform: volokh >> [21:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 00:48 mircea_popescu: where the fuck is that piece commenting on how soviet citizens all sooner or later wake up to the disney quality of their state ? [21:25]
asciilifeform: went fullbore tard tho iirc. years ago. [21:26]
asciilifeform: ( via the mechanism described by mp_en_viaje upstack. ) [21:26]
mp_en_viaje: bunches of these, keep coming and going. [21:28]
mp_en_viaje: i seem to remember a different "legal online community" centered on some blog [21:28]
asciilifeform: << at the core, it's a scheme to get derps to buy new cars, on ruinous credit. the 'cabbies' paid out of 'investor' printolade, but i suspect the car vendors pay kickback to the orig scammer, and 1 day will be found precisely how [21:29]
a111: Logged on 2019-05-11 00:21 mp_en_viaje: o btw, uber ipo'd, utterly failed the groupon mark. [21:29]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: possibly yer thinking of lessig et al [21:29]
mp_en_viaje: it's many things. in orclands, it's a dating service [21:29]
asciilifeform: ( 'legal' themed pantsuitism ) [21:30]
mp_en_viaje: orc cuntlet's ur-dream, this, "what if there were an app on my phone that could send over young boys with cars" [21:30]
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: over here, 100% of uberists are old african emigre doods [21:30]
asciilifeform: nigeria etc [21:30]
mp_en_viaje: the boys are wise to it, too. which is why every kid with daddy's money bmw has the app installed. it's like tinder for the orcs. [21:30]
mp_en_viaje: leaving the older people with the medallions wondering wtf. [21:30]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, this is after all what pantsuitism is all about, the minimal bar of success in the empire -- being different things for different people. [21:31]
* asciilifeform tried it a coupla times for lulz, but has limited patience for 'nao walk 3km east to find the cab' 'oops it moved' [21:31]
mp_en_viaje: i would estimate about one third of uber trips in romania result in a date. [21:32]
mp_en_viaje: same in costa rica, and i expect same everywhere in orclands. [21:33]
asciilifeform: i.e. 'this fella has a working auto, he must be worth sumthing' ? [21:33]
asciilifeform: lol [21:33]
mp_en_viaje: yuppers. [21:33]
asciilifeform: i suppose in orcistans they dun sell'em the merc on credit, so perhaps 'works' [21:33]
mp_en_viaje: consider the orc cuntlet's perpsective. she's precious, wen to school, is dental hygienist or w/e. vehehehery preoccupied of bodily integrity and other "single daugther of two parents +4 grandparents" aging society issues [21:34]
asciilifeform: it's hilarious, take just 1 ride on the thing and then week later snailmail spamola re 'dontcha wanna buy a new merc at 5% + penalties' etc [21:34]
mp_en_viaje: what's she to do ? she can't take the strip clubs in turns like my whores. she doesn't really want to go clubbing, it's too loud and stupid, not to mention ~dead. [21:35]
mp_en_viaje: where's she to run into cock ? [21:35]
asciilifeform: y'mean moneyed cock? [21:35]
mp_en_viaje: they work in segregated environs, jobs chicks do chicks do alone. [21:35]
asciilifeform: nowhere, why does 'horseface' think she earns a moneyed cock. [21:36]
mp_en_viaje: well, not strictly speaking moneyed, but active. [21:36]
mp_en_viaje: as opposed to you know, dead in the water. [21:36]
mp_en_viaje: motile sperm doods. [21:36]
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, youth. [21:36]
asciilifeform: at any rate the trad mechanism for the sad orc chix was supposed to be [21:37]
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 16:44 asciilifeform: even on asciilifeform's home planet, good chunk of marriages were 'soft-arranged' -- i.e. 'comrade colonel, you have a bachelor son, i have a ripe daughter' 'comrade lt colonel, let's box'em in a room, wainot' [21:37]
asciilifeform: if they broke it, their own problem neh. [21:37]
mp_en_viaje: well, now there's an app. [21:37]
mp_en_viaje: but yes, the societal cohesion that produced the cunt marketplace you describe meanwhile collapsed. [21:37]
asciilifeform: there's prolly 'app' that will promise to remove warts also for them. [21:37]
mp_en_viaje: new cunt marketplace is pretty much uber, fetlife and being very sad. [21:38]
asciilifeform: iirc there were special-purpose ones that e.g. BingoBoingo used, to some effect [21:38]
asciilifeform: but i confess, dun follow subj actively in realtime [21:38]
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> the boys are wise to it, too. which is why every kid with daddy's money bmw has the app installed. it's like tinder for the orcs. << Here the kids get the Uber cars on some sort of ruinous credit. Run 5 or six other ride apps at the same time. [21:38]
mp_en_viaje: it's much more interesting political topic than anything found in the "media". [21:39]
mp_en_viaje: politics is at the root and core the os of the cunt marketplace. [21:39]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on my last 'uberism' there was 'last straw that broke the camel', was a screen bolted to the seats showing ad liquishit ~with sound effects!~, ding! ding! , could not be switched off [21:40]
mp_en_viaje: ahahahaha [21:40]
asciilifeform: and not even supplied by 'uber' , was own thing [21:40]
BingoBoingo: lol [21:40]
asciilifeform: driver swore 'need it to make ends meet' [21:40]
* mp_en_viaje personally sunk the idiotic "entrepreneurial idea" trying that in tm as one of his last measures leaving. [21:40]
asciilifeform: i then swore off the lulzscamcab thing for good [21:40]
mp_en_viaje: fucktards. [21:40]
asciilifeform: draped coat over it. but what if had no coat! [21:40]
mp_en_viaje: these even had power off button, but wtf am i, stupid ? i understand "versioning". [21:41]
BingoBoingo: Here they are failing in the food delivery market. The entrenched local-ish PedidosYa still has that. [21:41]
asciilifeform: wonder of wonders, the power button did 0 [21:41]
asciilifeform: nor unplugging, it had battery thing [21:41]
mp_en_viaje: you must've had the v2.0 [21:41]
asciilifeform: well 'thought out', in a sense. [21:41]
asciilifeform: ding! ding! play spamcasino!!111 [21:41]
asciilifeform: spin the goat! [21:41]
asciilifeform: i wish i were making this up. [21:42]
mp_en_viaje: well, one idea is to accidentally break it. [21:42]
mp_en_viaje: not worth much money, this idea -- by now the screens are so fucking cheap... [21:42]
asciilifeform: was pretty solid, would have needed axe, i suspect [21:43]
asciilifeform: i wish could even buy lcd like this for lappy. [21:43]
mp_en_viaje: carry axe with coat just in case! [21:43]
asciilifeform: the axe left in trunk of normal auto , lol [21:43]
asciilifeform: hence why was even in a cab [21:43]
mp_en_viaje: start making the gals push kiddy carriage, no kiddy in it, just arsenal of tools and weapons. [21:44]
asciilifeform: ( it is rather impractical to take normal auto to washington, to park it there costs such that it is cheaper to go to town in limousine and back ) [21:44]
mp_en_viaje: speaking of i swear nothing is more satisfying than breaking something stupid with own hands/. [21:45]
a111: Logged on 2019-05-11 00:25 mp_en_viaje: aaanyways, in unrelated news, seems > /etc/hosts mostly gets rid of those obnoxious "european union thinks it can legislate" popups. [21:45]
mp_en_viaje: i dunno about others, but ever since i was a small kid, and perdurantly hence, this was and remains the one true satisfaction of life. [21:45]
asciilifeform: !#s angle grinder man [21:46]
a111: 1 result for "angle grinder man", [21:46]
BingoBoingo: !#s killdozer [21:46]
a111: 16 results for "killdozer", [21:46]
asciilifeform: there is of course also . [21:48]
a111: Logged on 2016-03-23 15:54 mircea_popescu: bum of the town falls asleep drunk on railroad. steam engine comes and thrashes him thoroughly. [21:48]
BingoBoingo: !#s Saint Terry [21:51]
a111: 2 results for "Saint Terry", [21:51]
asciilifeform: davis? eh, five cent 'saint', his 'martyrdom' far too quick. [21:52]
BingoBoingo: Well, Saint hood bar is low. Blame Linus, Beck, and Deraadt. [21:54]
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