Forum logs for 10 Jun 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: yes. which is not useful. [00:00]
ben_vulpes: aye [00:00]
sina: ben_vulpes: if I [00:03]
sina: - flip(b,i) [00:03]
sina: + flip(b,ii) [00:03]
sina: then I get the same issue as you [00:03]
ben_vulpes: issue? [00:04]
mircea_popescu: which is ? [00:04]
sina: 64 1s and 32 1s result in hashes of all 0s [00:04]
mircea_popescu: holy shit what [00:04]
ben_vulpes: so let's see some hashes [00:04]
mircea_popescu: counterintuitively counting must be from 0 ?! [00:04]
ben_vulpes: it wasn't just 64s, there's another element to the pattern [00:04]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes 32/32 64/64 even 4/4 displayed it [00:05]
mircea_popescu: not 32/31 or 33 though [00:05]
ben_vulpes: any equal length of message and hash? [00:05]
ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt [00:05]
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*11111 5) [00:05]
deedbot: candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes. [00:05]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: #*00100 [00:05]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sprPX/?raw=true [00:05]
mircea_popescu: nope. any 2**x equal [00:05]
ben_vulpes: whoa [00:06]
ben_vulpes: why [00:06]
mircea_popescu: i have nfi [00:06]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ! [00:06]
ben_vulpes: well in the absence of ideas, shall we index from zero? [00:07]
mircea_popescu: i guerss we must, yes [00:07]
mircea_popescu: batshit insanew [00:07]
sina: I dunno if this makes any difference [00:07]
sina: but when you have a string of all 1s [00:07]
sina: there is no rewind, right? [00:07]
ben_vulpes: this is perfect example of "too complex for me to understand!" complaint of asciilifeform's re hash design [00:07]
ben_vulpes: sina: aha [00:07]
sina: so the step == M_pos [00:07]
mircea_popescu: sina yes [00:07]
sina: ok, so should I keep my screw implementation as is? [00:08]
sina: or is this a spec bug [00:08]
mircea_popescu: yes. [00:08]
sina: or both :P [00:08]
ben_vulpes: my next q is does the iteration run [0, count] or [0, count) [00:09]
mircea_popescu: i'd expect the latter [00:10]
sina: sorry I don't grok that syntax diff [00:10]
sina: does it mean to the final of the array and n-1? [00:10]
mircea_popescu: <= vs < [00:10]
sina: right [00:10]
ben_vulpes: eg 0, 1, 2, 3 [00:11]
sina: ben_vulpes: if you count from 0 do we get same hashy hash? [00:12]
ben_vulpes: gimme a second, i'm handling two implementations here [00:13]
ben_vulpes: and drinking tea [00:13]
sina: lol...the 2048 bit hash for GPLv2 was taking a really long time so I killed it to add some print statements. Checked "wc -c LICENSE", it reports ~18,000 chars. I re-ran mpfhf with 32 bits, thinking it'd finish at M_pos ~18,000 [00:14]
sina: still going, currently at 20893 [00:14]
sina: wonder what it's doing [00:14]
sina: oh right, its binary, stupid me [00:15]
mircea_popescu: 20893 bits ? [00:15]
mircea_popescu: right. so about 1/7 done [00:15]
sina: this is definitely going to need a system language impl [00:15]
sina: assuming it's a correct implementation of the spec anyway [00:15]
mircea_popescu: that's what we're working on atm! [00:16]
mircea_popescu: so far, it seems good [00:16]
ben_vulpes: oh man how do i even pass your thing an array of zeros and ones [00:16]
mircea_popescu: python, it wants strings [00:16]
sina: ben_vulpes: M = [0] * 32 [00:16]
ben_vulpes: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*1111 4) [00:18]
candi_lustt: ben_vulpes: #*1010 [00:18]
candi_lustt: ben_vulpes: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/X1F4u/?raw=true [00:18]
ben_vulpes: sina: what do yer dice say [00:19]
mircea_popescu: aha! [00:19]
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*11111111111111111111111111111111 64) [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: #*0110100011001111010010001111100000000001110001111000001001000001 [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/46Zmr/?raw=true [00:19]
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 64) [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: #*0010111010001000101011101000100000110011110111011111001001110010 [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/KIOvW/?raw=true [00:19]
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 128) [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: #*01101000010111101000010110001100001011110000110000101110110101111010010101000000011011111010011011110001001100010111101010011100 [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aodux/?raw=true [00:19]
mircea_popescu: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 256) [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: #*1111111010101111011001101011011111101000101011111101011110010111010011100111000011000101000010111000111011110100100101010011011111010111001011011101010011011101011000100010001000111110000010010011001100011111100000100001010111101111010110000111010101011100 [00:19]
mircea_popescu: dude it's blazing fast. [00:19]
candi_lustt: mircea_popescu: log: http://p.bvulpes.com/ [00:19]
sina: 1010 [00:20]
ben_vulpes: SUSPICIOUS [00:20]
ben_vulpes: or is it...auspicious [00:20]
sina: anyone tell you guys that' you're fucking crazy? :D [00:20]
ben_vulpes: sina: what's so crazy? [00:20]
sina: just, in general [00:20]
ben_vulpes: i mean yes, all the time. but what in particular today? [00:20]
mircea_popescu: lol i think he had fun [00:20]
sina: watching this slow ass shit in python is making me want to start rewriting in C right now even though I have done nothing for the last ~24 except write this code, eat pizza and 8h of sleep [00:21]
ben_vulpes: stats for the 256-bit hash http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EIXod/?raw=true [00:22]
mircea_popescu: think about it, candi does it over a lisp! [00:22]
ben_vulpes: that's on my local machine, not even particularly high powered [00:22]
mircea_popescu: 59,893,200 bytes consed wowza [00:22]
sina: ben_vulpes: how fast can you run it against the GPL in my repo? [00:22]
ben_vulpes: sina: gosh i'd have to do real work, turn strings into binary [00:23]
sina: as if that isn't one line of lisp? [00:23]
* ben_vulpes snorts [00:23]
ben_vulpes: you missed the strings thread, didntcha [00:24]
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how this works!!1 [00:24]
sina: I missed all the tings [00:24]
ben_vulpes: sina: eeyyyyy that's the joke i'm making [00:25]
sina: ok fuck this GPL hashing shit, let's just say, it's slow [00:25]
mircea_popescu: lol let it go overnight what. [00:26]
sina: 16mins to get through ~36000 bits [00:26]
mircea_popescu: that's the next step once we got a coupla canonical impls, is to burn it down. [00:26]
mircea_popescu: do 64k 64 bit items see how long, 32 birt see how long, 1024 bit see how long etc [00:26]
mircea_popescu: do 1 2 4 8 16 etc kb all the way to a mb or so, [00:27]
mircea_popescu: it's a decent blog post for someone. [00:27]
sina: let's validate the canonicality of the impls first? :P [00:27]
mircea_popescu: ye [00:27]
mircea_popescu: sina pick random strings, announce the results, then we do candi and se [00:28]
mircea_popescu: e [00:28]
ben_vulpes: augh more strings [00:28]
mircea_popescu: bitfields! [00:28]
ben_vulpes: hehe [00:28]
sina: if I pick a string I'll include the bitfield for lazy ben_vulpes [00:29]
sina: or, you know, you could just copy the one line of python required to convert [00:30]
sina: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [00:30]
ben_vulpes: not lazy, busy [00:34]
ben_vulpes: i put a tool out there for you to use, use it [00:34]
ben_vulpes: or we could start with bitfields and you could reverse them? [00:34]
sina: sure, it's ~1 line of python :P [00:35]
ben_vulpes: I WANT TO DO THE GPL THING LEAVE ME LONE [00:35]
mod6: heheh [00:35]
sina: soz mate, do it, I'm curious [00:35]
mircea_popescu: eh, fuck gpl, do some tmsr document. [00:37]
mircea_popescu: deedbot contains. or thebitcoin.foundation also. [00:37]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9F30C1806257EBF02EF6C099DB0C5C115DA1DB6AF6BAEB379F492838947F0581 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1408...1173 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '163.164.112.13 (ssh-rsa key from 163.164.112.13 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown GB WLS BGE) [00:38]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9F30C1806257EBF02EF6C099DB0C5C115DA1DB6AF6BAEB379F492838947F0581 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1508...4783 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '163.164.112.13 (ssh-rsa key from 163.164.112.13 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown GB WLS BGE) [00:38]
ben_vulpes: jeez, nov 8th 2014 [00:53]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [00:53]
ben_vulpes: that's when you fired the declaration of sovereignty [00:53]
mircea_popescu: ah ah. soon 3yo huh [00:54]
mircea_popescu: nov is a muchly republican month. [00:54]
mod6: the tourny starts on the nov 2nd right? [00:58]
mircea_popescu: yeh [00:58]
mod6: sweet [00:59]
ben_vulpes: > heap exhausted [00:59]
ben_vulpes: heh [00:59]
mircea_popescu: how long ? [00:59]
ben_vulpes: MOAR [00:59]
ben_vulpes: oh not [00:59]
ben_vulpes: 60s [01:00]
mircea_popescu: S = 1kb sorta thing ? [01:00]
ben_vulpes: probably including tea-sipping and not watching the debugger [01:00]
ben_vulpes: oh nonono [01:00]
ben_vulpes: 44808 [01:01]
ben_vulpes: doc is 5601 chars long [01:01]
ben_vulpes: consing like mad [01:03]
ben_vulpes: oh man i get to break out the profiler! [01:06]
mircea_popescu: lel [01:16]
ben_vulpes: myeah okay logging is expensive, good to know [01:33]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: all those consed bytes came from logging [01:37]
mircea_popescu: ah i c [01:37]
mod6: io super exepensive / instrumentation is expensive [01:44]
mod6: good for debugging though [01:45]
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IIaWC/?raw=true [01:51]
ben_vulpes: some seven hundred odd seconds to hash the declaration [01:51]
mircea_popescu: 13 page faults, rly ? [01:52]
ben_vulpes: ya, wut? [01:52]
mircea_popescu: is that normal ? [01:52]
ben_vulpes: i only saw it one other time to night (6 of 'em), and i don't remember before [01:53]
* ben_vulpes off for a bit [01:53]
sina: mircea_popescu: still around? [02:28]
mircea_popescu: ya [02:29]
sina: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/B5Qxd/?raw=true [02:30]
sina: https://github.com/sinner-/mpfhf-golang [02:30]
mircea_popescu: nice! [02:32]
mircea_popescu: so there's a python, a golang and a cl version nao ? [02:33]
mircea_popescu: do me a favour sina and ben_vulpes : post a copy of your code on the article. archival. [02:33]
sina: "on the article" ? [02:33]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ << comment [02:33]
sina: ah right yep [02:33]
sina: doing so now [02:34]
sina: mircea_popescu: is there any interest in a tmsr company offering stuff like git hosting etc? [02:34]
mircea_popescu: no, because tmsr uses V. [02:35]
mircea_popescu: you know about v ? [02:35]
sina: no [02:35]
mircea_popescu: ha. didja read the topic ? [02:36]
sina: mircea_popescu: I pasted the python impl and it mangled my tabbing...I guess I wouldn't care normally but it's going ot be annoying for people to paste that and re-indent, any feature about preserving tabbing in your comment section? [02:36]
mircea_popescu: <pre> ? [02:36]
sina: I'll repost with pre and you can delete the old one [02:37]
mircea_popescu: kk [02:37]
mircea_popescu: or code was it ? [02:37]
sina: nope [02:37]
mircea_popescu: try both lol, ill keep one [02:37]
sina: still mangled [02:37]
mircea_popescu: kk [02:37]
sina: mircea_popescu: want me to link to github repos instead? [02:37]
mircea_popescu: lessee here [02:38]
sina: I tried to make a C one but then I remembered I haven't touched anything with pointers in about 15 years [02:38]
mircea_popescu: heh all equally mangled. tsk tsk. [02:38]
sina: golang is pretty fast these days [02:38]
sina: and I'm not even on the latest ver [02:38]
sina: so I settled for that [02:39]
mircea_popescu: yeah came out way ahead of python huh [02:39]
mircea_popescu: sina http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-122213 [02:39]
sina: it's pretty much native, and depending on how you write the program it doesn't really need GC [02:39]
sina: fantastic, tell me how you did it and I'll do the golang one [02:40]
mircea_popescu: <pre>. excewpt i think it strips them if you do it, asec [02:40]
ben_vulpes: updated againnnn: http://cascadianhacker.com/an-implementation-of-mircea-popescus-fabulous-hash-function [02:40]
ben_vulpes: sina: with repro cases this time :D [02:40]
* ben_vulpes off again again [02:41]
sina: mircea_popescu: you can fix this one too http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-122214 [02:42]
sina: yeah, I'm off too [02:42]
sina: this was fun [02:42]
sina: mircea_popescu: if you have more fun stuff to code pls let me know [02:42]
sina: I'm not cool like asciilifeform but I can bang some stuff out [02:43]
* mircea_popescu is too lazy to add pre to user comments i'll jusrt fix by hand heh [02:45]
mircea_popescu: sina : make sure you look into V eh. [02:46]
mircea_popescu: !!rated sina [02:52]
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated sina 1 at 2017/06/03 05:09:48 << missed on all the things! [02:52]
mircea_popescu: !!rate sina 2 MPFHF canonical implementation. [02:52]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tRQbW/?raw=true [02:52]
mircea_popescu: !!v 98EEDC62094B6E4978458AFEF5836ADFE23C8D58302568110AF6CE2CA7873A9A [02:53]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of sina from 1 to 2 << MPFHF canonical implementation. [02:53]
sina: fuckin lol http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-07-feb-2016#2020008 [08:00]
a111: Logged on 2016-02-08 00:11 maqp: There is no way your system can defeat targeted SIGINT monitoring attack, where government drives within a few hundred meters and collects signals emitted by your keyboard cable. [08:00]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-10#1668368 <<< what, some dood struggling for shared basis / an understanding of the world around him. most of the time it involves some flailing about. [08:39]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-10 12:00 sina: fuckin lol http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-07-feb-2016#2020008 [08:39]
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-10#1668370 <<< mircea_popescu I couldn't help but laugh at someone who is saying everyone should fork ricochet.im and work on it instead, or use OTR or whatever then blurt out that some just-barely-specified software isn't resistant to SIGINT attacks on your keyboard [08:52]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-10 12:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-10#1668368 <<< what, some dood struggling for shared basis / an understanding of the world around him. most of the time it involves some flailing about. [08:52]
mircea_popescu: myeah [08:52]
sina: pretty sure https://github.com/maqp/tfc/wiki/Security-design this uses a keyboard... [08:52]
mircea_popescu: use wireless keyboard, problem solved :D [08:54]
mircea_popescu: SSL EVERYWHERE!!!1 [08:54]
sina: don't look at me man, I literally am using a 3072-bit DSA El-Gamal key for some reason [08:55]
mircea_popescu: lel [08:55]
mircea_popescu: at least you didn't lose it, which is 100% more than what cvan be said for eulora players. [08:55]
sina: thank the lord for gpg/rdiff/duplicity and cheap USB keys [08:56]
mircea_popescu: including http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-22.log.html#t23:16:39 (tldr : dood got asked to not come back a year ago over being overexcitable asshat came back year later begged for forgiveness which was granted -- only to discover he had lost his key) [08:57]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-22 23:16:39: <Zakorus123> but i really think i should be allowed to come back [08:57]
sina: I just watched Dave Chappelle latest comedy thing, fucking hilarious [08:58]
mircea_popescu: o, he still working ? [08:59]
sina: first gig in 10y he makes jokes about it [08:59]
sina: "The Age of Spin" it was called. [08:59]
mircea_popescu: aha [09:00]
sina: how many active users does eulora have? [09:04]
mircea_popescu: depends on your definition of active. [09:04]
mircea_popescu: adds about 4-5k play hours per month [09:04]
sina: are most players drawn from the general vicinity of this and related chans? or internet randoms too? [09:05]
mircea_popescu: so so [09:05]
mircea_popescu: i mean obv being bitcoin pegged it attracts lots of bitcoin/altcoin folks [09:05]
sina: interesting [09:07]
sina: I also had some fun this evening reading teh logs [09:07]
mircea_popescu: there you mean ? [09:07]
sina: no here. gossipd, libsodium/nacl, trump...a few other things I searched [09:07]
mircea_popescu: a yea [09:07]
sina: hilarity all round [09:08]
mircea_popescu: there was a younger, more naive time when we seriously wanted someone to condense the logs [09:08]
mircea_popescu: it... died. [09:08]
sina: define condense? [09:08]
mircea_popescu: produce a summary of each day so that no lulz are missed [09:08]
sina: that sounds like a pretty difficult task [09:10]
sina: short of hiring a "reporter" [09:10]
mircea_popescu: its rather impossible. [09:11]
mircea_popescu: for one thing, diffrent lulz for different poeople [09:11]
sina: real news http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-10/hawaiian-pizza-investor-sam-panopoulos-dies/8607108 [09:13]
sina: greek man who invented hawaiian pizza in canada, dead [09:14]
mircea_popescu: wasn't he very old ? [09:14]
sina: he was 83 [09:14]
mircea_popescu: i recall them trotting him out periodically, "rich man! made by ourdemocracy! you could be next!!1" sorta bs. [09:14]
sina: oh yeah I saw this http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 [09:17]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:46 sina: do you know if the src for phuctor is avail? [09:17]
sina: asciilifeform greatest pet hate: people embracing and extinguishing things [09:18]
sina: oops sorry this one http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667701 [09:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 15:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain't going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained. [09:18]
mircea_popescu: possibly one of ~. [09:19]
mircea_popescu: well, in the particular case of phuctor, he has a solid point. [09:19]
mircea_popescu: there's this cloud of "academia" retards who have been pointedly ignoring / not citing it while publishing useless crap on the general topic. [09:20]
mircea_popescu: the empire's desire to eat it up is palpable. [09:20]
mircea_popescu: starting with http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you [09:21]
sina: it's a very interesting topic [09:43]
sina: I just went down the rabbit hole of links from that one [09:43]
mircea_popescu: mirrors neatly how all sorts of dorks have been trying to create exactly the same, "just as good as bitcoin with just a bit of censorship" sort of bs. [09:44]
mircea_popescu: which, for the people who were here for the original pgp wars, sounds like the empire never goes to school. [09:44]
sina: something I have been looking into as well, kind of related in the testing-for-weakness-to-validate-sanity sense, is this program "cbmc" [09:49]
sina: its a bounded model checker for C, you can use it to verify the correctness of whole programs but since it is a bit slow/brute force approach, normally you only can use it to test critical functions [09:49]
mircea_popescu: afaik there's a bunch of these [09:50]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7E067D0421219659A91640D63AEA02CE62DBA55E41E751CD2DB2EDF941EDAFCC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1661...3409 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '37.218.255.162 (ssh-rsa key from 37.218.255.162 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (server01.platzer-werbung.de. DE) [09:52]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7E067D0421219659A91640D63AEA02CE62DBA55E41E751CD2DB2EDF941EDAFCC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1450...0303 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '37.218.255.162 (ssh-rsa key from 37.218.255.162 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (server01.platzer-werbung.de. DE) [09:52]
sina: yes I believe so. it'd be interesting to run them against, for example, important gpg functions or similar [09:52]
mircea_popescu: gpg is slated for a rewrite, actually, since it became obvious koch's a dedicated saboteur. [09:52]
* sina notes to search the logs for koch tomorrow [09:53]
sina: for now, bedtime, getting late here [09:53]
sina: good evening [09:53]
mircea_popescu: tada [09:53]
BingoBoingo: http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/attack-sjw-criticizes-victim-cursing-muslims/ [09:55]
BingoBoingo: England has no "Great Again" [09:57]
mircea_popescu: what'd it need it for. [09:57]
BingoBoingo: Making life better for Reverse-Indians [10:00]
mircea_popescu: heh [10:00]
BingoBoingo: Those Anglos living under Indian colonial domination [10:01]
mircea_popescu: fuck them. [10:01]
BingoBoingo: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/ << No, you can not have your cake [10:04]
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/hjpv5 [10:04]
mircea_popescu: well yes, ashkenazi = us jews = nigger jews. [10:04]
mircea_popescu: the euro jews = proper jews = ded. [10:04]
BingoBoingo: But still the irony. [10:09]
mircea_popescu: what ? that they spent a few centuries passing for white while white ruled the world but now that white got some indescript malaise they'll pass for "something else" ie "of color" ? [10:10]
BingoBoingo: I don't think they'll pass. Not to Tyrone and Petrus/ [10:12]
BingoBoingo: https://www.dailystormer.com/boomer-parasites-head-for-ecuador-after-bleeding-america-dry/ [10:12]
BingoBoingo: ^ In other hates [10:13]
mircea_popescu: it's still not altogether clear tyrone & petrus actually matter in this complex social game. [10:17]
mircea_popescu: my money's on "notrly", but hey, mebbe im biased. [10:17]
BingoBoingo: Well, matter in the sense of being environmental hazards. [10:19]
mircea_popescu: on the level of mooks. [10:19]
BingoBoingo: ah, well the amount of danger a mook creates depends on what the locals trust em to do [10:25]
mircea_popescu: there ios that [10:32]
BingoBoingo: You put Jew that passed for white last year on PetrusofColor radar, and Petrus is going to remember because it's what Petrus does instead of being the dogman [10:37]
mircea_popescu: ya think ? [10:37]
BingoBoingo: tends to be a more targeted hazard than "mook was allowed to operate heavy machinery" [10:43]
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7948&pr=1 [10:45]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/opiate-overdoses-now-leading-cause-of-pre-geriatric-mortality-in-us/ << Qntra - Opiate Overdoses Now Leading Cause Of Pre-Geriatric Mortality In US [10:59]
mircea_popescu: win. [10:59]
mircea_popescu: a while back they started trying to prosecute all overdose deaths as manslaughter-by-dealer. getting desperate, obviously. [11:00]
BingoBoingo: Here in Illinois they inestigate to prosecute as murder by dealer, much progress [11:04]
BingoBoingo: *investigate [11:07]
BingoBoingo: likely within 5 years dope selling on street will be prosecuted as "attempted murder" with zero CIA traffickers hung [11:10]
mircea_popescu: and it still wont do anything [11:10]
mircea_popescu: fuck 'em, let the beautiful ratpeople choke in their own vomit, the sooner the empire ends the better. [11:10]
BingoBoingo: Still, I would like to see the ranking if "complications of being a fat fuck" were consolidated and entered on list. Overdose would likely still win under 25 list, but age where "fat fuck" begins to beat overdose inspires curiosity. [11:30]
BingoBoingo: Probably between 28 and 36 [11:31]
mircea_popescu: interesting q indeed [11:31]
BingoBoingo: Investigation likely impossible because fat fuck doctors would lie "healthy 600 pound 23 year old" when heart attack, etc [11:34]
mircea_popescu: heh [11:34]
BingoBoingo: Kinda like how US jooz will become people of color when Petrus gets resentful and father's their daughter's children [11:36]
BingoBoingo: *too many apostrophe [11:37]
BingoBoingo: brb [11:37]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-strange-case-of-the-red-stapler-and-other-related-stories/ << Trilema - The Strange Case of The Red Stapler and Other Related Stories [12:47]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/95AD068E858895A7C47AC724798C00D1F803610BB9D9D8F1E5E0335997752505 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1410...7279 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '124.146.165.141 (ssh-rsa key from 124.146.165.141 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (st0045.nas981.kobe.nttpc.ne.jp. JP 13) [13:17]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/95AD068E858895A7C47AC724798C00D1F803610BB9D9D8F1E5E0335997752505 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1775...6453 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '124.146.165.141 (ssh-rsa key from 124.146.165.141 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (st0045.nas981.kobe.nttpc.ne.jp. JP 13) [13:17]
ben_vulpes: !!up eplogos [15:02]
deedbot: eplogos voiced for 30 minutes. [15:02]
ben_vulpes: > Con una mentalidad Socialista en progreso << ahaha sina is this yours? [15:10]
ben_vulpes: ah, no, wrong sinner apparently [15:11]
* asciilifeform picked cherries all day [15:31]
BingoBoingo: OMG elitist! What about all the not cherry fruits like nectarines and peaches! [15:32]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: only other one we have is figs [15:35]
BingoBoingo: Oh, there are no figs here. [15:45]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/58GKp/?raw=true [15:49]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [15:49]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Are you sure this is new? Sounds familiar [15:50]
shinohai: Maybe so ... I am quite sure the EFF lawsuit mentioned within is recent. The date seems to agree. [15:53]
* shinohai shrugs [15:53]
mod6: cherries sounds good. is there an abundance of fruit yielding cherry trees near you? [15:53]
mircea_popescu: lol alf finallyt found alt-programmer non-office job [15:59]
mircea_popescu: temporary farm work!1 [15:59]
asciilifeform: mod6: relatives' [16:00]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not for market, for pie, lol [16:03]
BingoBoingo: Still woark [16:03]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:03]
mircea_popescu: in other ghettos, gang of porto ricans down the street is throwing a PARTAY!!!! [16:03]
mircea_popescu: you've not seen something like this, 100% 20something dudes in shorts and tshirts looking like bitches in heat won'\t fuck them. [16:04]
mircea_popescu: and portorican music is apparently made by an ashkenazi gang of elevator music composers gone rogue. [16:04]
BingoBoingo: Fucking ashkeNAZIS [16:06]
mircea_popescu: cuz they dominate muzak amirite ? lord's of tin alley ? [16:07]
ben_vulpes: crapp store lols: http://archive.is/pxrWl [16:18]
mircea_popescu: !!up alex__c [17:16]
deedbot: alex__c voiced for 30 minutes. [17:16]
mircea_popescu: !!up photoelectric [17:29]
deedbot: photoelectric voiced for 30 minutes. [17:29]
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/the-best-thing-you-can-do-for-your-career-is-to-take-a-stay-at-home-wife << CH - The best thing you can do for your career is to take a stay-at-home wife [18:16]
sina: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/world/europe/ukraine-assassin-russia-putin-amina-okuyeva.html [19:15]
sina: that was a fun read this morning [19:15]
mircea_popescu: tldr ? [19:15]
sina: a ukranian lady and her husband are minor celebs for fighting against the russians in donetsk or wherever, Ukranian press loves em [19:16]
sina: Chechen assassin poses as Le Monde reporter to try and kill them [19:17]
mircea_popescu: and putin is related to this because russian hackers ? [19:17]
sina: the lady is a badass and has a gun/blod clotting agent, shoots the assassin 4 times after he shoots her husband [19:17]
mircea_popescu: o.O [19:17]
sina: its NYT so Putin will be mentioned in everything, but Ukranian intel says they have no firm evidence it was the Ruskis (in the article)...of course it probably was but that's not the bit of the story that's interesting [19:18]
mircea_popescu: ya nb story. [19:19]
sina: this is my fav bit: [19:20]
sina: As they drove, Mr. Denisultanov-Kurmakayev asked the pair to stop the car for an interview and to sit in the back to receive the gift, which he carried in a festive red cardboard box. [19:20]
sina: As the couple sat in the back seat of the car, Mr. Denisultanov-Kurmakayev said, “‘Now, here is your gift,’” Ms. Okuyeva said. He opened the box, pulled out a gun and opened fire on Mr. Osmayev. [19:20]
sina: massive lul, hide the gun in a red box [19:20]
mircea_popescu: much tv. [19:20]
sina: mircea_popescu: do you ever sleep? [19:21]
mircea_popescu: depends what you mean by sleep. [19:21]
mircea_popescu: sometimes, i wait. [19:21]
sina: I just mean you're always online [19:21]
sina: or seem to be [19:22]
mircea_popescu: it's a joke! [19:22]
* shinohai imagines mircea_popescu sleeps like parakeet, with one eye open .... [19:22]
mircea_popescu: i thought that's like a rabbit [19:22]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, do you know why rabbits sleep with their eyes open ? [19:22]
sina: y [19:23]
shinohai: To keep eye on predators? [19:23]
mircea_popescu: only got so much skin. if they try to close their eyes their foreskin retracts. [19:23]
sina: lmao [19:24]
shinohai: O.o [19:24]
shinohai: lel [19:24]
sina: I demand a reference [19:24]
mircea_popescu: i read it in the new york times. [19:24]
* sina falls off chair [19:24]
shinohai: ./thread [19:24]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4176ED024FBF368E4C0C44AFD616CB2E7C5DD5A4762091F044381E1170551F40 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...1007 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.235.230.56 (ssh-rsa key from 81.235.230.56 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (81-235-230-56-no78.tbcn.telia.com. SE O) [22:06]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4176ED024FBF368E4C0C44AFD616CB2E7C5DD5A4762091F044381E1170551F40 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1658...3833 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.235.230.56 (ssh-rsa key from 81.235.230.56 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (81-235-230-56-no78.tbcn.telia.com. SE O) [22:06]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [23:57]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2870.97, vol: 9927.44067247 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2825.0, vol: 6003.22659 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2813.7, vol: 17696.59304434 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2993.643868, vol: 12572.11720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2800.098, vol: 6575.92969603 | Volume-weighted last average: 2866.92963975 [23:58]
trinque: aw shit, I just put all my life savings into ethereum. [23:59]
trinque: pls halp. [23:59]
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