Forum logs for 08 Jan 2019
| Mocky: | I had the most vivid dream last night that I met mp and hanbot. I shook mp's hand and then I turned and shook hanbot's hand and when I turned back mp was gone but left me a note with his signature and "kek" then I turned and habot was gone too | [10:55] |
| asciilifeform: | guten morgen Mocky | [10:56] |
| Mocky: | mornin' | [10:56] |
| BingoBoingo: | Mornin folks | [10:58] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/01/dead-black-man-found-at-major-pantsuit-donors-home-for-second-time-in-less-than-two-years/ << Qntra -- Dead Black Man Found At Major Pantsuit Donor's Home For Second Time In Less Than Two Years | [10:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | Mocky lol auction off the note, prolly bigbux(tm)! | [11:24] |
| * asciilifeform | upturned a stack of papers with elbow last night, a mircea_popescu card came flying out | [11:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo are these tynisha ysais relatives ? any bits missing ? | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform what's a mp card ? | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, you mean the black business card things ? | [11:26] |
| asciilifeform: | aha that | [11:26] |
| asciilifeform: | the 1 with the gpg fp | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool item, if i do say so myself. the face of all the people who've since got one... worth erry penny. | [11:27] |
| asciilifeform: | it's nifty. | [11:27] |
| asciilifeform: | i still think an electric one would be even spiffier tho | [11:27] |
| asciilifeform: | (i.e. plug it in, it 'types' the modulus) | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | how'd an electric one go ? | [11:29] |
| Mocky: | electric, what, to pull itself out of your pocket? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dun see it. | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know ? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i mean, if it ~speaks~ it, it could be cooler in the intended market but honestly speaking is inferior tech to reading. | [11:29] |
| asciilifeform: | typing in 4096bit is bit of a pain | [11:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | SLAVEGIRLS. | [11:31] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [11:32] |
| Mocky: | so long as it doesn't have cancel button | [11:32] |
| asciilifeform: | ahahahaha | [11:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's two solutions to "x is painful" : a) make x', just-like-x-but-not-painful and b) use it in training, where pain is both desirable, useful and necessary. | [11:33] |
| asciilifeform: | there's also the 3rd, 'make it == x but slightly less pain' but admittedly takes work | [11:33] |
| asciilifeform: | ( i'll observe, mircea_popescu's ship has diesels, rather than oars, last i knew ) | [11:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | (and, for completeness & rounding off [kek kek] of the "dating" reference yesterday : the ~other~ locus of man, other than "doing very well on a date", is sitting on a couch [of power] and pointing at which fancy fanciula he intends to sozomize next. just sayin'.) | [11:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform oars are not merely painful, but also train biceps. mp is not so keep in bicep-y slavegirls, THEREFORE has not oars. | [11:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | if oars promoted instead stoic values, it'd have fucking oars. | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | not so keen* i meep | [11:35] |
| asciilifeform: | couch << very suleiman, i'd expect 'throne' | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | meen* | [11:35] |
| asciilifeform: | i can see re the biceps tho | [11:35] |
| asciilifeform: | perhaps give'em pedals. | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform this is an eastern power, what can i tell you. | [11:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | or, to quote from fetgirl, "mistey25 19F Switch Also an intelegence test? What makes you think you have what it takes to judge if someone is smart or not. Theres a quote from Albert Einstein if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing its an idiot. And youre judging me based off of things youre pulling out of your ass. Why dont I give you a bit of judgement. Yo | [11:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | u look like a goat fucker." | [11:36] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: didja reply 'perfect, you look exactly like goat | [11:37] |
| asciilifeform: | ' ? | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol nope. i said goats are cute but not to the point of fucking one. | [11:38] |
| asciilifeform: | btw are they all xyzpqrDIGITDIGIT ? it's like aol never died | [11:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, it's testament to my famous capacity of fitting in -- comes from the fact i use as main profile pic a shot hanbot took in turkey, where i was being INCREDIBLY fucking fit-in. | [11:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | (the first time around, decade or so prior, turkey ss guy intercepted me. like on the street. asked if i'm from the us, i said romania, he said no fucking way, what are you selling me here. was pretty lulzy.) | [11:39] |
| asciilifeform: | twist : he asked in hungarian | [11:41] |
| asciilifeform: | 'english, french, and japanese spy'(tm)(r) | [11:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform they are not. here, have a sampler http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ufhi6/?raw=true | [11:44] |
| asciilifeform: | oh hah, only a ~third of'em.. | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | did some countwork at some point irrc. lotta "kitten" (spoiler : generally fatties), lotta stuff like that. | [11:45] |
| asciilifeform: | in other esoterica, on gentoo 'xinput' dumps list of mice, and then 'xinput --set-prop yermousenumber 269 -1' switches off mouse-acceleration. ( possibly phf already knew this, but gives 9000x moar usable roller ) | [11:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | how are you to use a mouse w/o acceleration ?! | [11:46] |
| asciilifeform: | well if it's a trad mouse you generally wouldn't | [11:46] |
| asciilifeform: | but for rollerballs it worx great | [11:46] |
| asciilifeform: | ( 1:1 mm/rolled to pixels ) | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah works diff for rollers ? mkay | [11:46] |
| * mircea_popescu | never got into that. | [11:46] |
| asciilifeform: | me neither, until recently | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | i get the "takes less space than mouse" etc. it just seems bulky and inconvenient to me. and too high. and so on. | [11:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | not proposing this as problems ~with the item~. | [11:47] |
| asciilifeform: | it takes ~same space as mouse, if you have a decent two-bricks-sized box | [11:47] |
| asciilifeform: | the win is that when you e.g. cad, less muscle aches. ( asciilifeform aint cad'ing currently but expects to again later this yr.. ) | [11:48] |
| asciilifeform: | i dunno how phf ended up into it tho, iirc he dun cad | [11:48] |
| asciilifeform: | but i got the idea from him | [11:48] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo are these tynisha ysais relatives ? any bits missing ? << Apparently they are just dead sex workers | [11:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | black ~men~ ? | [11:52] |
| asciilifeform: | the linked piece read like a 'bugger-for-meth' affair | [11:52] |
| BingoBoingo: | Yeah, black male sex workers. | [11:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | From the text of the Qntra piece: "In the previous incident Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male sex worker's death was ruled a drug overdose following an investigation which found numerous syringes and indicators of habitual methamphetamine use in Buck's home. According to Moore's journal, Buck introduced him to methamphetamine." | [11:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | White pantsuit hiring black men for sex and hooking them on meth... like that Atlanta dude but with different taste in holes | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, in all fairness to the http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/ cuck in question -- if your wife fucks a dozen or so "bulls" before they do you in the ass per week say, and it's been a hundred weeks, you're looking at five or so thousand of these having spent a day with you within the past half week, which is the "relation" standard contemplated. | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | that one in x thousand black gay-for-pay tards (who are also drug users, nqa) will od a year... gimme a break. | [11:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | in short : it's a wonder there weren't two dozen. | [11:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo the ridiculous notion " Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male twink" was ~keepin a journal~. srsly ? with what ? | [11:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | His community college art school supplies? | [11:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh, you mean the ipad ? i think they cut off what he was trying to say. | [11:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | Anyways, first incident was dismissed after pantsuit outrage over the investigation as an attack on the old dude's lifestyle | [11:59] |
| asciilifeform: | hey, 'universal literacy'(tm)(r), neh | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | "Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter began his career as a fashion model in Europe" keks. | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform you may think what you wish i've seen the fetards and i know better. | [11:59] |
| asciilifeform: | no i get | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | the odds a 20something ~black~ ~male~ actually keeping a journal are 10ppm or so having the capacity to even in principle do so 0.1% sorta deal | [12:00] |
| asciilifeform: | it's a lul tho, the incas actually think they have 'literacy' | [12:00] |
| asciilifeform: | ( 'can read stop sign? here's yer school diploma' ) | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | He formerly served on the steering committee of the Stonewall Democratic Club. He has donated "nearly $30,000" to Democratic candidates like Hillary Clinton, Ted Lieu, Pete Aguilar and Raja Krishnamoorthi as well as the Getting Things Done PAC. << dude give me a fucking break ? | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | since when the fuck is 30k a sum of money. | [12:01] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: they have this custom, iirc you can donate 1 orcbuck and still show up on 'list of donor' | [12:01] |
| BingoBoingo: | Other sources report ~500k still small. More interesting is the information brokerage he sold in his 30's. | [12:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty ridoinculous all around. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaanyways. | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform my point is rather that the democrats ~are very fucking poor~. | [12:02] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: pretty sure most of their dough comes from bezos | [12:02] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and saud et al ) | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | precisely the "russian oligarchs" pseudo-economic model, yes. | [12:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | Except cut a couple figures off for the US version | [12:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | somehow this doesn't bother them, "hey, our entire understanding of money is, let's get some schmuck a bunch of taxchest so he can http://trilema.com/2012/dan-voiculescu-acest-gunoi-abject/ all over." | [12:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Anyways, it seems the reason he didn't pile up 2 dozen stiffs over the years is that same poverty | [12:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, they ~party~ ie, don't keep a ready supply of the stuff (chemicals, biologicals) for whenever feel like, but rather whenever the "pipe" leaks something run out and buy some of each, twice a eyar or w/e. | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | the unsteady approach being in itself a great catalyst of both the paroxistic problem encountered and the incapacity for management displayed. | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | (that article, btw, remarkable because i told ro bezos "Si, draga Varanule, nu-i clar ca mai ai cinci ani" ie, "dear reptile, it's not clear you have five years left" in 2012 -- by 2014 he was in jail. because hey, mp is right now and again accidentally which is to say 1024/1024 occurences on his blog etc etc) | [12:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, middle class fellow constantly held up by his peers as a party elite | [12:11] |
| asciilifeform: | it's how they od, also | [12:11] |
| asciilifeform: | ( observe, goering -- morphinist from ww1 to '45, and never od ) | [12:11] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: was that the ro berezovsky or who | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | just about yeah. dood ran off with the commies accounts receivable in 1989, so that isarescu was stuck inventing acreditives for fuel ships to unload rather than leave that winter. | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was something else, that january. | [12:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway, twas a mere coupla billion. which, at the time, was an IMMENSE sum, that ceausescu had gathered together over decades of hard fucking work for his 20mn slavecrop. | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | now it's like... hey, remember when bitcoin had JUST breached 1k and "mp is a billionaire" still "controversial" / difficult to swallow for the tards talking ? | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's one hell of an object to contemplate, this evolution, for someone who was there in the 80s. "you mean every penny saved off every old schmuck that died in soviet-style economical health care system / every bled out 1950s style (in the us, heh, http://trilema.com/2009/comunismul-capitalismul-si-oprimarea-femeii/#selection-71.0-71.8 ) woman because contraceptives cost money whereas her slavespawn is worth money, ALL THAT, | [12:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | every night spent in the cold to "save fuel" by whole neighbourhoods, the inaccessible meat or bananas or whatever -- ALL OF IT!!! went into one "humongous" pile of "the people's wealth" that was, looking in own pockets, not retrospectively that worth the mention ? | [12:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | what the fuck more is there, if this dun suffice re vanitas vanitatum what does. | [12:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | alas, poor yorick. i knew him, horatio... | [12:31] |
| * mircea_popescu | shall bbl. | [12:31] |
| asciilifeform: | it's exactly scale-model ver of the ru 'privatization' afaik. | [13:05] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and for all i know, ro actually involved moar 'turkeydollar', as by mircea_popescu's and other accts was 'tighter ship' ) | [13:06] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, in paleo-entomology, https://archive.ph/ot5UK#selection-6697.0-6705.198 | [13:32] |
| asciilifeform: | 'There were people working behind the scenes trying to get the Symbolics VLM stuff legitimately released in some way to the hobbyist community - and this is likely to throw a wrench into that effort' | [13:32] |
| asciilifeform: | ( 11 yr.-vintage wank re asciilifeform's orig warez link ) | [13:34] |
| asciilifeform: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-08-jan-2019#2509359 << 'pile' wento to washington/eurpoistan coffers, kept the reich going 30yrs past its expiration date | [13:36] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-08 17:26 mircea_popescu: every night spent in the cold to "save fuel" by whole neighbourhoods, the inaccessible meat or bananas or whatever -- ALL OF IT!!! went into one "humongous" pile of "the people's wealth" that was, looking in own pockets, not retrospectively that worth the mention ? | [13:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other sad lulz : etsy moved into the new york building where a scottish immigrant invented the prefab packaging box during the gilded age. who knows, maybe it rubs off ? maybe perhaps http://trilema.com/2016/the-%d0%ba%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%81-bdsm-party/#comment-118604 ? | [13:55] |
| asciilifeform: | and hey, iirc google (or was it crapple?) occupies the old sgi campus | [13:57] |
| asciilifeform: | similar | [13:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [13:58] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, in the 'man alone' dept, http://interim.mntmn.com | [13:59] |
| asciilifeform: | ( nfi what happened to it after '15 , but sorta terrydavis-flavour ) | [13:59] |
| asciilifeform: | in other quasi-newz, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55&cpage=1#comment-19773 | [16:01] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and it aint a lie, i studied the burroughs arch, indeed was non-overflowistic iron ) | [16:01] |
| feedbot: | http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-january-february-and-march-1714-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of January, February and March, 1714 - Part III. | [17:50] |
| lobbes: | !!v 0A8DFF73C1807887EABEF77020C257A596B3ECB7F244BB74215588B419EF9D29 | [19:02] |
| deedbot: | Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.14 << Auction# 1033: 500 wired filthy fiats for 140mn ecu | [19:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's then put the more useful part in teh archive hopper : https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_burroughsBkComputerSystemOrganizationTheB5700B6700_10821314/Organick_Computer_System_Organization_The_B5700_B6700_Series_1973_djvu.txt | [19:12] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: lol, ~whole thing is diagrams | [19:12] |
| asciilifeform: | it aint edible this way. | [19:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [19:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | tsk. | [19:12] |
| asciilifeform: | sorta why archaeology is hard | [19:13] |
| asciilifeform: | shit aint searchable/txtable. | [19:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | cuz erryone gotta be spashul, come up with diagrams. text not good anymore etc. | [19:13] |
| asciilifeform: | eh it's a , what, 1960s manuscript. | [19:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm just bitter. | [19:13] |
| asciilifeform: | next can complain that newton didn't put out 7bit ascii. | [19:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can, and i do. | [19:13] |
| BingoBoingo: | !!v 069163137FC5BE03C43D22E16938F9670CBCF86D92B8B580CF13C01C3365AA3E | [19:19] |
| deedbot: | BingoBoingo paid lobbes invoice 2 | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | in other noose, constant-time stein-gcd aint so bad, 1msec (2048bit operands) , 6msec (4096bit) , 21msec (8192bit), 81msec (16384bit) | [19:19] |
| asciilifeform: | incidentally, whether it is possible to gcd arbitrary ints in non-quadratic time, is an open problem in numtheory | [19:21] |
| BingoBoingo: | ty lobbes | [19:21] |
| asciilifeform: | ( afaik nobody ever proved that you couldn't, and the nonconstanttime lehmer and variations run in ~O(n) for ~all inputs ) | [19:21] |
| asciilifeform: | the catch is that ~all != all. | [19:21] |
| asciilifeform: | on a box with 1 FG, the wait for a random fillup of a e.g. 2048bit reg, i suspect dwarfs the runtime of stein (and possibly even of m-r, dunno yet) | [19:27] |
| asciilifeform: | let's say yer baking one of the p, q of a 4096bit rsa mod. it needs 2048bit , i.e. 256byte of FG. a standard FG at room temp shits out 7kByte/s. therefore 256 / (7 x 1024) ~= 0.0357 sec., for a fillup of candidate register. | [19:29] |
| asciilifeform: | if primality test ( which consists of GCD ~and~ m-r, in order to constant-time ) does not exceed 0.0356sec, then on machine with 1 FG it can be considered that the FG is the limiting reactant. | [19:31] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu diana_coman et al ^ | [19:31] |
| asciilifeform: | on a machine with multiple FG harnessed together, divide the figure by the # of FG in use. | [19:31] |
| asciilifeform: | ( all of this assumes that nothing is parallelized. asciilifeform in particular does not like parallelized subcomponents in rsatron, if it can be avoided , tho there aint anyffin wrong with running ~multiple~ rsatrons , on diff inputs, in parallel , if iron is available ) | [19:33] |
| asciilifeform: | nao, philosophical q : does one actually want to gcd + m-r always ? or is it acceptable to reject input after failed gcd litmus, and only ~then~ m-r . | [19:35] |
| asciilifeform: | cuz in the former case, there aint actually any point to gcd. | [19:35] |
| asciilifeform: | ( afaik there are no integers that are divisible by small prime (such as will fit in the primorial) and fail ~any~ number of m-r shots. | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform: | ) | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform: | http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TkmoM/?raw=true << sneak peek of constant-time stein. ( afaik there isn't one anywhere else on the net, funnily enuff. ) | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | the whole idea of prior gcd was to save on rm time. | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | right | [19:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | if it doesn't save any time it's not worth having | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | well at least not in the initial sieve ( one might still want it for e.g. pocklington's test ) | [19:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | something like that. | [19:42] |
| asciilifeform: | i'd be satisfied with gcd as initial sieve (given that i have one that dun leak anyffin) ~followed~ by m-r. | [19:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't see the point. | [19:43] |
| asciilifeform: | of what ? that's the obv. version ( get from rng, until gcd shows that no small factors, and then m-r ) | [19:43] |
| asciilifeform: | i.e. to save on r-m time. | [19:44] |
| asciilifeform: | my observation was that on a box with 1 FG, the latter will almost certainly be the limiting reactant in prime-baking. | [19:45] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and that on iron where m-r ends up taking substantially less time than FG takes to fill up candidate reg, there may not be a point to pre-sieving ) | [19:47] |
| asciilifeform: | i dun have the m-r yet, so cannot give the equation quite yet. | [19:47] |
| asciilifeform: | the interesting thing about m-r however, is that it can make use of any available cpu given to it, to produce smaller probability of death | [19:49] |
| asciilifeform: | so depending on how many m-r shots you want, it can make sense to pre-sieve, to give m-r moar shots. | [19:49] |
| asciilifeform: | grr, moar complicated than i initially pictured, because m-r ~also~ demands rng | [19:50] |
| asciilifeform: | i'ma come back to this binomial once i have the m-r. | [19:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform IF rm doesn't take much time, THEN i don't see the point of doing any gcd. because r-m is a complete test for what we need, and gcd is not. | [19:54] |
| asciilifeform: | right | [19:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | why overload the machinery with unreliable testing. | [19:54] |
| asciilifeform: | how 'many r-m shots' is a free variable tho. | [19:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | gcding small primes doesn't reduce the m-r constant. | [19:55] |
| asciilifeform: | it potentially frees up cpu for moar shots of m-r, was the idea | [19:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | what does ? not bothering to gcd ? | [19:56] |
| asciilifeform: | no | [19:56] |
| asciilifeform: | the opposite | [19:56] |
| asciilifeform: | ~doing~ the gcd pre-sieve | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | ... | [19:56] |
| asciilifeform: | then you only m-r on inputs that already passed gcd | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | the count of m-r shots is established on mathematical not circumstancial grounds. | [19:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | dude... | [19:57] |
| asciilifeform: | the ~minimal~ count | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | this discussion is broken. | [19:57] |
| asciilifeform: | let's spell out the algo. 1. reg := read_from_fg(2048bits). 2. l = gcd(reg, primorial) 3. if l != 1, goto 1 4. mr = m-r(reg, shots) 5. if mr != true, goto 1. 6. reg is probabilistically-prime . | [19:59] |
| asciilifeform: | this is the 'pre-sieve' variant contemplated. | [19:59] |
| asciilifeform: | nao, on a machine with 1 FG, step 1 takes ~36msec. every time. | [20:00] |
| asciilifeform: | step 2 takes ~1msec (on asciilifeform's aged box, and less elsewhere.) | [20:00] |
| asciilifeform: | steps 3, 5, 6 take ~0. step 4 takes a certain yet-unknown time, which is a function of width(reg) and shots. | [20:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | right, which is precisely what makes it a discussion about nothing. | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | IF 4 takes too little to bother, 2-3 aren't worth doing otherwise, otherwise. | [20:02] |
| asciilifeform: | i dun have the necessary figure yet. hence 'i'ma come back'. | [20:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is exactlyu how things stood 50 lines ~before~, also. | [20:02] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: i not only gotta write proggy, but to make sure that it makes sense to people | [20:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news, reading old logs is something else, my the snr has changed. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#565157 << back in 2014 dorky kids still thought "putin" is how you say "cool". in the intervening years -- they, changed not at all. everything around them... | [20:04] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-03-18 09:39 LordPutin: what do you mean they haven't? Are they facing legalaction? | [20:04] |
| * asciilifeform | finds good % of the 2014-prior l0gz to be indigestible. (tho regularly goes to read'em anyway) | [20:06] |
| mod6: | evenin' | [20:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah, something else. | [20:07] |
| asciilifeform: | might be interesting ( phf? ) to have a filter toggle that only shows people who are still alive | [20:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah. | [20:08] |
| asciilifeform: | ( i find what e.g. mircea_popescu said in 2014 , interesting, but not xyzputin3333 ) | [20:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's still the context. 2014 mp actually talked to ~those~ dorks. | [20:08] |
| asciilifeform: | tru | [20:08] |
| asciilifeform: | tho not only ( also talked to ben_vulpes and other folx who tuned in prior to asciilifeform ) | [20:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | it'd be nice if this is how it worked, "lenin without the nieces". but historically... | [20:09] |
| asciilifeform: | wb mod6 | [20:09] |
| mod6: | thx! | [20:11] |
| * mod6 | has been working on the big blog post that outlines my work to create the keccak regrind for trb. | [20:11] |
| asciilifeform: | mod6: at the risk of sounding like mircea_popescu in earlier thread -- why is this a mega-project ? i reground ffa to keccak in about 10minute (after getting hold of a working keccak-vtron) | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform: | trb has , what, 3x the # of patches, so it'll take you 30m at most. | [20:12] |
| asciilifeform: | or do i misread, and mod6 already reground, and writing re how. | [20:13] |
| * asciilifeform | brb,meat | [20:15] |
| mod6: | Yeah, have already reground, indeed. This is a write up of how I did this. | [20:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty cool | [20:15] |
| mod6: | And I think that makes sense, this isn't my personal project. How this work was done for the foundation should be a public facing thing, and reviewed by people before vpatches published. | [20:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | you always wrote quite excellent / delightfully complete such recipes. | [20:16] |
| mod6: | Thanks mircea_popescu, I appreciate that. | [20:16] |
| asciilifeform: | neato mod6 , i look fwd to reading | [20:21] |
| mod6: | *nod* I appreciate that asciilifeform, your eyes on such things always are a Good Thing. Not long after I post it, I'll be looking for people to help test the updated HOWTO guide too if anyone feels so inclined. (Please reach out if interested.) | [20:22] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#565557 << in lulzy 2014isms | [20:28] |
| a111: | Logged on 2014-03-18 16:00 benkay: gpg is not even necessary for wot participation, you should know. | [20:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, in 2014 the screws hadn't much been turned at all | [20:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | gribble still "worked" for some definitions of work | [20:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [20:49] |
| lobbes: | BingoBoingo: yw | [21:44] |
| lobbes: | wb mod6. I also look forward to reading your keccak regrind post (hopefully I can sponge some useful info) | [21:45] |
| mod6: | :] Thank you lobbes. | [22:32] |
| feedbot: | http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/01/initial-cuntoo-testing/ << lobbesblog -- Initial Cuntoo Testing | [22:43] |
| trinque: | lobbes: why didn't you read the script.. | [23:12] |
| trinque: | it didn't set a password on root. it asked you what user you wanted to create. | [23:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | this is cute. | [23:16] |
| lobbes: | trinque: fair enough, but then I should be able to login with that user right? Or at least chrooting in and setting the root password should've worked (I'd imagine) | [23:23] |
| * lobbes | goes to read scripts properly this time | [23:26] |
| trinque: | I recommend you read it, understand what it's doing, and then talk about it from knowledge of substance rather than knowledge of surface. | [23:37] |
| trinque: | it's not as if the script's setting anyone's password on anything it's just calling the util that does. | [23:37] |
| trinque: | also glad to see it getting used! | [23:38] |
| trinque: | I'm still gunning after the nondeterminism in the genesis. | [23:39] |
| hanbot: | billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch? | [23:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2019-01-07 04:31 billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/ | [23:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-02-25 19:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and as it stands if you see this warning it | [23:53] |
| hanbot: | billymg nice work btw, am ready to sign once above is cleared up | [23:54] |
| lobbes: | trinque: I agree that I could use a more substantive grasp on the script as a whole (and will indeed study moar), however I want to say I'm at least understanding the bit in "create_user.sh" where it calls useradd and passwd, and then adds the $USER to etc/sudoers. I'm just missing -why- the user/password I set through useradd/passwd wasn't working when trying to login. Probably something elementary | [23:54] |
| lobbes: | that's under my nose.. | [23:54] |
| trinque: | you could've like, mistyped it, maaan | [23:57] |
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