Forum logs for 06 Jun 2018
| spyked: | lobbes, hey ty! | [07:46] |
| spyked: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-05-jun-2018#2445325 <-- ftr, most of my names point to this address and I expect them to for the foreseeable future. I'll follow in trinque's footsteps and deed it. | [07:48] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-05 16:37 phf: resolves to 82.79.58.192 for me | [07:48] |
| spyked: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820744 <-- yes, although I'm personally not convinced one way or the other. my q is, should "allcomers" (e.g. people without WoT presence) even be able to comment? I don't know, maybe the question itself has no merit, mircea_popescu is of course much more qualified than me to establish this. | [07:53] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-05 16:42 mircea_popescu: spyked, the first portion is interesting imo. why shouldn't anyone be able to live comments ? something in the vein of "if every tree was carved any time anyone on the trail thought about some girl, we'd have toothpick forests" ? | [07:53] |
| spyked: | the question stemmed from "what are valid inputs for blogotron?", which led to "should comments be permitted for anons, or should they be predicated upon identity?". otherwise I very much like the current organization and I believe that venues that don't allow inline commenting (such as thetarpit in its current state) are only "half blogs", not fully. | [07:57] |
| spyked: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges of productivity follow from *all* the lines of mp-wp code and is more than the sum of each, or whether there's a lot of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number of lines to | [08:01] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-05 16:50 mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t | [08:01] |
| spyked: | spend to obtain sane blogging tool"). | [08:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | spyked, you read the cherri&rae dialogue ? | [08:05] |
| spyked: | yeah | [08:05] |
| spyked: | will have to give it a second pass to make some notes, the variety of subjects discussed blew my mind a bit. | [08:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | so my question to you is : should someone who ~doesn't even own a computer~ (because no, her retarded "iPhone CPU iPhone OS 11_2 like Mac OS X)" eminently is not a computer, nor anything even remotely LIKE mac os x) be allowed to comment ? | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | should billiardaires even talk to the lowly bank clerks on the internets ? just how haughty shall we get before there's really nothing left to talk about ? | [08:12] |
| * spyked | sees mircea_popescu's point | [08:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | (that, btw, is a reference. to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVuu0nhiUw ) | [08:13] |
| spyked: | anyway, given my limited experience with wp (nowadays I just lul at the attackers from republic of moldova trying to gain wp-admin access for the old blog), I am ready to admit that mp-wp's may be the optimal permeability of this membrane. I was even tempted to switch to mp-wp, but I'm hoping to see trilema antispam implemented in Lisp at some point in the future. | [08:33] |
| spyked: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820781 <-- lol, I can't help it: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-384.0-384.1 , http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-342.0-342.1 and other places in that piece. | [08:34] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-05 20:41 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/miss-america-pageant-no-longer-a-pageant-or-about-beautiful-women/ << Qntra - Miss America Pageant No Longer A Pageant Or About Beautiful Women | [08:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | word. stalinism without stalin, how the fuck is this even possible. | [08:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | they miss daddy, these people. | [08:34] |
| spyked: | how did it go: "ceausescu e o scoala / ceausescu e o boala". | [08:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah, ie o floare, ie un crin, ie parfumul cel mai fin. | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | do you know, by the way, they've managed to do away with multitasking ? | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | "smart"phones for dumb people can only do 1 thing at a time, and that's it. no remanence, let alone permanence. | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | (not ~usefully~, obviously. it still runs all the various inca probing bullshit every cycle, of course) | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be". | [08:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | take the obvious "wtf is with your >80 char lines omfg". well.. php is what's with it. hence the whole "it's a scripting language built atop a webotron, to glue it to a rmdbs, whadda ya want" | [09:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | ~hypertext preprocessor~. wtf are you going to do ? do you want hypertext or don't you ? do you want separable parts or don't you ? it's a triangle, right, a) well specified tasks b) separable parts c) no glue needed. pick two. | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | alf picks ac and the web picks ab. these choices limit them respectively, because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809002 | [09:02] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-05-04 15:37 asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not say this to raise mircea_popescu's blood pressure, but strictly out of truth. | [09:02] |
| spyked: | mircea_popescu, re. smartphone, everytime I bring the "why use linux shitstack with so many layers of abstraction for mere phone" argument to certain ppl, they're all "oh, but it runs on so many devices". and I guess they're right in a certain way. gotta keep 'em busy, give 'em "choices", or at least the illusion thereof. | [09:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | i dunno that the item has anything to do with linux. | [09:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | by now it's a hoyota, son of used car lot owner built himself a car out of parts. | [09:07] |
| spyked: | afaik ios (the other smartphone os besides android) runs on 1 hardware platform and the os doesn't multitask (or maybe it does in the newer versions? hell if I know). while all other smartphones besides apple's run android, and there's some diversity in the hardware platforms, which is why they based the os on the kernel that "runs on everything". | [09:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. i was discussing the former. which, contrary to hopes&aspirations, owns the market. | [09:11] |
| spyked: | the downside is a horrible drain on battery (and there wasn't much of that to go with it in the first place), but eh, they made their choices. | [09:11] |
| spyked: | buuut... yeah, sometimes smartphone os lets user do 2 things at a time: listen to music while instagramming. | [09:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | just like in the old days of dos. | [09:14] |
| asciilifeform: | ipnoje? they have a split screen thing. | [09:14] |
| asciilifeform: | sorta like dos 'sidekick' i guess | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | incidentally, when is the nsa computer ready ? | [09:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | im not gonna have her take nudies on her current shitstack. | [09:15] |
| asciilifeform: | on turdroid they have proper multi, and so typical plebe's pnoje resembles win98 box, with 9000 selfinstalled bg shitwares | [09:16] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: c101pa? currently stuck on 'how the fuck to build even google's orig bootloader , out of the fragmentarily pseudo-opensrc pieces', before can even consider backporting their init to coreboot | [09:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron, you're still doing the eulora computer thing ? | [09:18] |
| spyked: | !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/eizdg/?raw=true | [09:21] |
| deedbot: | accepted: 1 | [09:21] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820837 << good % is simply rubbish, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/import/utw.php | [09:23] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 12:59 mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be". | [09:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahh, the pleasure of ~being able to reference these~. thanks phf! | [09:23] |
| asciilifeform: | 'The Ultimate Tag Warrior Importer' | [09:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, it's not directly evident to me this is rubbish, though i never used it. | [09:24] |
| asciilifeform: | or, say, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | (item is backwards compatibility obscura.) | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, idem. | [09:25] |
| asciilifeform: | why it needs ~own~ ftp server?! | [09:25] |
| asciilifeform: | because we host on winblowz box with no ftp?? | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you can run it without a ftp server. | [09:25] |
| asciilifeform: | it's outrageous | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's what it is. | [09:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | in strict terms, i believe that is a pretty tight php implementation of ftp. "shouldn't exist", maybe, whatever. there it is. | [09:26] |
| asciilifeform: | lol, with regexps | [09:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | $go = !preg_match("/^([0-9]{3})(-.+\\1)? [^".CRLF."]+".CRLF."$/Us", $this->_message, $regs) << | [09:27] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php#L23372 << lessee somebody prove this to have no false pos matches | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | $ip_port = explode(",", ereg_replace("^.+ \\(?([0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]+,[0-9]+)\\)?.*".CRLF."$", "\\1", $this->_message | [09:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha check that shit out. | [09:28] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-wp-filesystem-ssh2.php << check ~this~ out. attempt to reimplement... ssh | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | 500 lines! compare to the original! | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | "but mp, none of this shit works" "shhh" | [09:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, anyway, it's a wrapper, for a very hacky libssh.so | [09:30] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-pclzip.php << 30+kloc reimplementation of pkzip | [09:31] |
| spyked: | so mp-wp is an operating system? ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798159 could then make a great corollary to greenspun's thing) | [09:33] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-04-13 16:20 mircea_popescu: spyked how about THIS definition for the operating system : "that set of code that is trusted implicitly". this then makes EVERYTHING on a windows machine operating system, which i contend is right and proper -- the necessary result of opaque monolith systems design is universalization of the os. | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | spyked, there's a reason they put all the blogs on the same one box :D | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | but yes, if you run a php interpreter you've got a windows box, pretty much. state of the art in empire. | [09:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand in ancient trilemas, let's see today http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-nu-plateste-lumea-ca-sa-citeasca-ziare-online/ | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | and perhaps http://trilema.com/2011/bun-si-mie-ce-imi-iese-la-faza-asta/ too. | [09:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's kinda lulzy for me to re-read what i was saying pre-bitcoin, and discover it's... not changed. | [09:49] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820855 << briefly returning upstack, once i find the uart pins and solder (under microscope, it will be a 1st class bitch) i can try starting with stock rk3399 loader, and welding on the c101pa peripherals init (which i've dug out of google's shitpile) | [10:08] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 13:18 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: c101pa? currently stuck on 'how the fuck to build even google's orig bootloader , out of the fragmentarily pseudo-opensrc pieces', before can even consider backporting their init to coreboot | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | all the microscopy only needed for first debug unit though, rite ? | [10:09] |
| asciilifeform: | http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa_dbg.jpg << it's in there. | [10:10] |
| asciilifeform: | and yes. | [10:10] |
| asciilifeform: | the soldering, ditto. strictly to make 'unbrickable' test unit for the bootloader attempts. | [10:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [10:10] |
| asciilifeform: | for mass production, will still need to open up the boxen to do the write-unprotect magic (lift battery plug, boot on mains current, reflash, put back) but that's it. | [10:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | doesn't sound like a phd assembly line item. | [10:13] |
| douchebag: | I think I have lymes disease | [10:13] |
| asciilifeform: | interestingly, mb doesn't take up all of the space inside the case, there is room for maybe half a playing card's worth of iron (sadly not FG's worth..) inside | [10:13] |
| asciilifeform: | douchebag: bitten by tick just nao ? | [10:14] |
| douchebag: | I got bit by something | [10:14] |
| douchebag: | and now I have a bullseye shaped bite wound | [10:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | do you have the typical "coffee on blotter paper" erithrema, or what | [10:15] |
| douchebag: | It's red/black/blue at the center and redness surrounding the area | [10:16] |
| douchebag: | in addition to that I've been vomiting since I woke up | [10:17] |
| asciilifeform: | douchebag: are you on a mission in the taiga and there is no doctor or wat | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | so go to the hospital, its treatable. | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, incidentally, part and parcel of the decay, all these eminently preventable diseases on marked rise in the us. | [10:18] |
| douchebag: | Yeah, I'm going in about an hour | [10:18] |
| asciilifeform: | douchebag: you have maybe a day or 2, before you end up with a decade+'s worth of ugh | [10:18] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: verily | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | such a sad soviet world. | [10:18] |
| asciilifeform: | african, not soviet. | [10:19] |
| asciilifeform: | su did not have this problem. | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | ikr. | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | soviet republic of angola. | [10:19] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820853 << incidentally, the c101pa has a camera of some kind. | [10:23] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 13:15 mircea_popescu: im not gonna have her take nudies on her current shitstack. | [10:23] |
| mod6: | mornin' | [10:23] |
| asciilifeform: | ohai mod6 | [10:23] |
| * mod6 | waves | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | or just get a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1802801 like normal people. | [10:24] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-04-19 01:58 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : i can't recommend the dsc-rx100 quite warmly enough. it's a splendid sony compact with zeiss lenses that's easily the best camera i ever saw. | [10:24] |
| * asciilifeform | has that very same 'soapbox' | [10:24] |
| asciilifeform: | sadly enuff it loses to 3+ y.o. pnoje , somehow | [10:24] |
| asciilifeform: | despite the latter's fingernail lens | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't imagine how. | [10:25] |
| asciilifeform: | combination of the sensor and the stabilizer . | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | i've seen the sort of pixelated bs the iphone spits out. | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ~no way. | [10:25] |
| asciilifeform: | speaking here of the 6th ipnoje. | [10:26] |
| asciilifeform: | ( which happily snarfs in, e.g., whole page of a4 text, legibly. ye olde minox nervously smokes in the corner ) | [10:27] |
| asciilifeform: | granted it all goes straight to crapple. | [10:27] |
| asciilifeform: | i'd quite like to buy a standalone cam with equiv perfomance. but ( aside from kg brick of 'slr' ) they dun make them. | [10:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can't be serious, can you ? | [10:28] |
| asciilifeform: | pnojeism killed the soapbox | [10:28] |
| asciilifeform: | http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/button_0_big.jpg << ipnojecam | [10:28] |
| asciilifeform: | and ^ this is after scaling down from the ridiculous (4000x3000 or something close) orig res | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/antonio-29.jpg << sony. | [10:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | you can count the animal's tail hairs. the whole thing is a coupla mm in length. | [10:29] |
| asciilifeform: | it's a good pic | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect problem may be rathere the operator than the performance of the hardware! | [10:30] |
| asciilifeform: | possibly. my rx100 is ~useless at palm's length distance. | [10:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | play with it, it's very customizable. | [10:32] |
| asciilifeform: | what i really oughta get, is a proper trinocular microscope. camera is great but can't really solder under camera. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is that. | [10:33] |
| asciilifeform: | the chinese ones are junk, however. | [10:35] |
| asciilifeform: | proper unit is serious $. | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe something by omax. afaik they were the standard budget item | [10:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://www.amazon.com/OMAX-40X-2000X-Trinocular-Microscope-Mechanical/dp/B00SGCG1XE << a few hundy. | [10:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy hell, you can actually buy them direct! http://omaxmicroscope.com/omax-40x-2500x-led-digital-trinocular-lab-compound-microscope-with-5mp-camera-and-mechanical-stage.html | [10:42] |
| deedbot: | http://deedbot.org/bundle-526297.txt | [10:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, seperation << it's separation you know. << ty fxd | [10:46] |
| mod6: | !!deed http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wC07Y/?raw=true | [11:29] |
| deedbot: | accepted: 1 | [11:29] |
| mod6: | jurov: ^ | [11:29] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: bottom-light, and no boom , useless for electronics | [11:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah | [11:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | all my experience comes from fucking med students. | [11:37] |
| asciilifeform: | https://spectraservices.com/SP-S6D-BS.html << the type used in electronics work. | [11:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | maybe stuff like http://omaxmicroscope.com/special-microscopes/metallurgical-microscopes.html ? | [11:39] |
| asciilifeform: | can't really solder under those. | [11:40] |
| asciilifeform: | for chip reversing, yes, want metallurgist's microscope. | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha | [11:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | in truth tho... something like a boomed magnifying glass may suffice here neh ? | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're talking mms, nice large 3x, 5x, 8x glass is inexpensive. | [11:41] |
| asciilifeform: | it's what i use now | [11:41] |
| asciilifeform: | problem is glare. | [11:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it a low glare lens ? | [11:41] |
| asciilifeform: | not the problem. glare from the contacts on pcb. same reason pcb is such a bitch to photograph -- needs good low light sensor, if you simply up the lamp, you nuke exposure | [11:42] |
| asciilifeform: | ( all the au-plated junk ) | [11:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | a yea... | [11:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | but have you tried colored light ? | [11:42] |
| asciilifeform: | the magic pill is polarizer | [11:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | quite. | [11:43] |
| asciilifeform: | (on proper scope) | [11:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | but ~color~ might actually do it too. metal is not uniformly reflective across spectrum | [11:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | get a battery of red leds say. | [11:43] |
| asciilifeform: | this is the classic case for polarizer, want only the diffuse light, not the orthogonal reflected | [11:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | true. but there's some merit in trying some combinations of fiddy bux solutions before springing the 3k | [11:46] |
| asciilifeform: | sorta what i do nao. | [11:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | yea | [11:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up BreakingRae | [12:21] |
| deedbot: | BreakingRae voiced for 30 minutes. | [12:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | go ahead, tell him. | [12:21] |
| BreakingRae: | Hey Spyked, I'd love to see your notes on what we discussed if you'll show me. | [12:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you ever apologize to alf for being such an orc, btw ? | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform: | she did! | [12:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | good thing you read pms. | [12:24] |
| asciilifeform: | weekly or so, lol | [12:24] |
| mod6: | :D | [12:26] |
| BreakingRae: | I'm sure it won't be the last time I apologise to him for it too | [12:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually, he's hard at work with trictoscopes and things to make you a computer. | [12:27] |
| BreakingRae: | Step 1 in being slightly less of an orc maybe | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | indeed. | [12:29] |
| deedbot: | http://deedbot.org/bundle-526308.txt | [12:45] |
| asciilifeform: | http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/237FBBA5B9D7D62EB0FEEC485D27209610B699FC1DCD47C73EB4AB2DFFDFC19D << in unrelated lulzies | [13:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | botnet sig ? | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | nfi | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | prolly embedded-linux rubbish | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | or that. | [13:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | the difference though, is rather academic. | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | lotsa these sitting there 'green', waiting for their magic day. | [13:15] |
| asciilifeform: | this prolly is obvious, but if one gets a hold of 1 example of the router/etc in question, you have the priv | [13:16] |
| asciilifeform: | (it's an ssh pub) | [13:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | indeed. | [13:16] |
| asciilifeform: | speaking of which, it's still an open q, what to do re rng on c101pa | [13:17] |
| asciilifeform: | lesser evil is prolly the camera | [13:18] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and yes it will take an FG on the usb jack like any other box ) | [13:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | it got no usb ports ?! | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | right. that. what. | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | has 3 (1 normal, 2 weirdo 'usb-c') | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | right, i was speaking of the minimal unit. | [13:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh. fg. | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | also the 16GB onboard ssd is rather tight, for serious work i'd mount /home on a sd card. | [13:19] |
| asciilifeform: | ( re 'usb-c' -- it's an interesting item, worx as both usb and power in/out, the thing charges by being connected to mains brick through either of the 2 ) | [13:21] |
| asciilifeform: | the schematics whisperer d00d suggested that it also has the uart brought out on hidden pins i have a test adapter cable due in this wk that will test this theory | [13:22] |
| asciilifeform: | ( somewhat unsurprisingly, d00d in q never returned with the promised docs ) | [13:25] |
| asciilifeform: | speaking, upstack, of microscopy, did we ever do the 'why not gamma inspection, like for steel beams' thread ? | [13:37] |
| asciilifeform: | imho it's a promising (and afaik 100% unexplored, in re chip reversing) method, and , bonus, nondestructive (i.e. inspect and then ~use~ device) | [13:37] |
| asciilifeform: | given as they dun refract -- would need to use something like minksy's confocal method. | [13:38] |
| asciilifeform: | ( where a raster-scanning mechanical 'pinhole' is used, and the distance of source/detector from sample, is varied ) | [13:39] |
| asciilifeform: | given as an ic is a relatively (vs e.g. steel beams, or cement) 'soft' material, you would not need the capsule-of-doom from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812331 | [13:40] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-05-11 16:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaa the radar thing. funny story with these, the old-world version of this was the gamma-radiograph. in su they used them to evaluate cured cement prior to finishing a block of flat. aaand sometimes they'd forget the sr-90 brick inside the wall, and roast several generations of tenants | [13:40] |
| asciilifeform: | no need to decap, strip layers with acids, etc. potentially, just take 3d tomograph. | [13:43] |
| asciilifeform: | collimate the beam simply by selecting with long, thin lead tube. | [13:44] |
| asciilifeform: | *minsky's method | [13:47] |
| danielpbarron: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820856 << not really. i don't have any ready and i don't know if my recipe even works any more. i'm currently using a debian install for eulora | [13:59] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 13:18 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you're still doing the eulora computer thing ? | [13:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | !Q later tell asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lor9x/?raw=true Update on certain cats | [14:33] |
| lobbesbot: | BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. | [14:33] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: got it | [14:36] |
| lobbesbot: | asciilifeform: Sent 2 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lor9x/?raw=true Update on certain cats | [14:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: ty for the ack | [14:36] |
| phf: | i added a link on patch pages to "split hunks", which allows to render any patch the way mp-wp genesis is being rendered, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis?inlinep=false | [14:42] |
| phf: | mostly a convenience since <patch name>/hunk/<path of hunk> works for all patches now, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis/hunk/bitcoin/src/init.cpp | [14:45] |
| deedbot: | http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/06/6-months-in-montevideo-finding-a-clean-place/ << Bingo Blog - 6 Months In Montevideo: Finding A Clean Place | [14:55] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: with the exception of the stove, this looks ~exactly like asciilifeform's hotel room | [15:01] |
| asciilifeform: | complete with oddball bathroom sink | [15:02] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: Also the sink placement | [15:02] |
| asciilifeform: | which chix is that in the coat ? | [15:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | The agencia's rep | [15:03] |
| asciilifeform: | aa | [15:04] |
| asciilifeform: | and srsly that's a japanese-sized flat | [15:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | And that's as big as they come before the carve out "bedrooms" | [15:04] |
| asciilifeform: | i think my dorm room at uni was bigger | [15:04] |
| asciilifeform: | does this place come with a net pipe ? | [15:05] |
| asciilifeform: | or will you need a sat dish, or what | [15:05] |
| BingoBoingo: | They have fiber here. | [15:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | https://tienda.antel.com.uy/categoria/internet | [15:07] |
| phf: | that's the cyberpunk future we've always wanted. 2sqm room (with bathroom) and a fat fiber line | [15:08] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [15:10] |
| asciilifeform: | i was hoping he'd find something that can hold a crew of 2, at least on occasion | [15:11] |
| asciilifeform: | but if this is all that fits in the budget, then so be it | [15:11] |
| mod6: | what are the rental terms? 1yr contract? | [15:22] |
| mod6: | (could always find a bigger place later once we're above water) | [15:22] |
| BingoBoingo: | It's a one year contract. | [15:25] |
| mod6: | Ok, cool. | [15:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | There is a point at which continuing to burn more time on the real estate thing yields diminishing returns. And when the days start getting longer, negative returns. | [15:34] |
| ben_vulpes: | not just true for real estate! | [15:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron, drat. | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | what am i going to do! | [16:23] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: issue the pet a rk3328 ? | [16:23] |
| asciilifeform: | these -- are ready to rock | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | how ? | [16:23] |
| asciilifeform: | we have a shipments/logistics expert in the house, don't we | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | who, dbp ? i thought he moved to rural ok to pursue a doctor in divinity thesis. | [16:25] |
| asciilifeform: | hey phf , didja ever put xorg on yours? how is performance ? | [16:25] |
| asciilifeform: | aa hm. | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | anyway. i guess ima make her build a desktop, wtf can i do. | [16:26] |
| asciilifeform: | it's good for one's health, to build desktop. | [16:26] |
| asciilifeform: | junkyardwars. builds character. | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | so instead of me aweing her with the might of tmsr, she gets to impress me with her digital dexterity ? ooookay... | [16:27] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: on a rok? no i haven't, yesterday i only had time to get a terminal out of it | [16:27] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: didja run into the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792708 lulgem ? | [16:27] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-04-03 22:23 asciilifeform: in other 'holyfuq, chinesium', 1500000 (!) baud default uart. | [16:27] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: yeah, i was going by various spec sites, but i have a dongle that handles that | [16:31] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: i had to go through several, before one worked | [16:31] |
| phf: | afaiu the special baud rate is rk exclusive | [16:32] |
| asciilifeform: | ( the only one that ended up speaking 1500000 baud, was ftdi's ) | [16:33] |
| deedbot: | http://qntra.net/2018/06/us-arrests-guy-named-ron-for-allegedly-being-chinese-spy/ << Qntra - US Arrests Guy Named Ron For Allegedly Being Chinese Spy | [17:59] |
| * Mocky | is picturing trying to fuck a med student with a microscope >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820960 | [19:40] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 15:37 mircea_popescu: all my experience comes from fucking med students. | [19:40] |
| asciilifeform: | lol | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | they do have tinier snatches than average, i've noticed. | [19:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | some of the microscopy-est clits + clitoral hoods + labia arrangements i ever saw lived between the legs of med students. | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | in other noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1821018 apparently requires a https://archive.li/9wxqo ( 'partners only' google proprietary dongle ) to enable uart this, in turn, appears to be a usb-c 'debug accessory mode' magic-voltage set and it is deliberately (see below) poorly specced. i dug for the detail, turns out that it is likely being sat on by usg.google et al, because it also enables talking to recent intel iron ro | [19:43] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 17:22 asciilifeform: the schematics whisperer d00d suggested that it also has the uart brought out on hidden pins i have a test adapter cable due in this wk that will test this theory | [19:43] |
| asciilifeform: | otkit (r/w memory etc via usb jack) | [19:43] |
| asciilifeform: | ( various whisperings at https://archive.li/lQydM and elsewhere, for the expert entomologist only ) | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | heh | [19:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | so "it works until you try to", right. | [19:46] |
| Mocky: | http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1821029 >> i tried your recipe (combination of your 2 recipes) 2 days ago and couldn't get the emerge @world to work to succeed. I didn't report since you mention your missing file and link to Trinque's post | [19:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2018-06-06 17:59 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820856 << not really. i don't have any ready and i don't know if my recipe even works any more. i'm currently using a debian install for eulora | [19:47] |
| Mocky: | I figured I'd give it a try since I couldnt get my old 2014 version to install, nor my 2016 version | [19:48] |
| deedbot: | http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2403 << Loper OS - Open Problem: Debug Accessory Mode on the Asus C101PA | [21:48] |
| phf: | if you manage to build suzy-q replica at home you absolutely must name it siouxsie sioux | [22:15] |
| trinque: | Mocky: I'll have something for you to try out in a few days, if you like. | [22:21] |
| Mocky: | great, looking forward to it | [22:22] |
| * trinque | got the cuntoo to build again, need to gather up all needed distfiles so we aren't fucked the next time shitworld's tectonic plates shift. | [22:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | good idea. | [22:23] |
| phf: | trinque: is cuntoo pure musl? | [22:23] |
| trinque: | yep, musl and libressl | [22:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | spyked, i will have you know that ~all~ the trainee sluts agree -- my version is good, yours isn't. SO THERE!\ | [22:36] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: so the idea is to get into that npcx, which is running "chrome OS EC firmware"? | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up fromdeedbot | [22:38] |
| deedbot: | fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes. | [22:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | are you here for the sexy time fromdeedbot ? | [22:39] |
| fromdeedbot: | just stopping in.... i haven't read the logs from the last month | [22:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | your loss hehe. | [22:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in traps, https://78.media.tumblr.com/6b6f4f7fca17d852a510a64fa77b81d0/tumblr_p95alsJhPu1wlblsko1_1280.png | [22:40] |
| fromdeedbot: | where ever i go there i am, and all time is sexy on freenode | [22:40] |
| phf: | apparently that thing does everything, "ap power sequencing, battery charging, thermal management, keyboard scan matrix, buttons and switches, backlights, indicator LEDS, board-specific peripherals, USB-PD controller, case-closed debug controller, usb type-c power brick" | [22:41] |
| fromdeedbot: | if my aunt had a dick, she'd have been my uncle | [22:41] |
| fromdeedbot: | decepticons.... she needs a shave though | [22:42] |
| fromdeedbot: | namecoin is the new black..... as soon as earthlings sort their shit out | [22:48] |
| fromdeedbot: | namecoin and deedbot... i cant think of a better use case | [22:52] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: ec uart is separate and i dun need it | [23:03] |
| asciilifeform: | phf: idea is to get at the standard rockchip uart | [23:04] |
| phf: | hmm | [23:05] |
| asciilifeform: | bahaha i have uart. | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform: | sbu1/sbu2 is a ~usb~ d+/d-. | [23:39] |
| phf: | hax | [23:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | win | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform: | well, possibly i spoke in haste, it ain't a cp201/ftdi/etc, but some google strange. | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform: | but 1st step. | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform: | article updated. | [23:44] |
| asciilifeform: | aajajajaja i have console... | [23:48] |
| phf: | what kind of console is it? does it respond to "version"? | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | dun dun dun | [23:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf, i hope it's amiga :D | [23:50] |
| phf: | C64 of course | [23:51] |
| asciilifeform: | article updated again. | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, commodore was almost sane | [23:53] |
| phf: | well, it'll be like discovering alt-tmsr or lizard hitler, the way asciilifeform always wanted | [23:54] |
| asciilifeform: | http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/usb2spew.txt << spew. | [23:57] |
| * asciilifeform | bbl. | [23:57] |
| phf: | "Console is enabled type HELP for help." | [23:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | why not "Console might be enabled type HELP ME LIZZARD HiTLER for finding out." | [23:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | or i guess HLTIER for max payn. | [23:59] |
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