Forum logs for 02 Apr 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot-: [Daniel P. Barron] Count me as thick, I dun see the connection. - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/count-me-as-thick-i-dun-see-the-connection/ [00:26]
trinque: !gettrust trinque ben_vulpes [00:27]
deedbot: L1: 3, L2: 3 by 3 connections. [00:27]
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user trinque to user ben_vulpes: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=trinque&dest=ben_vulpes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ben_vulpes | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 [00:27]
trinque: neato [00:27]
trinque: imported. [00:27]
mircea_popescu: win. [00:27]
ben_vulpes: logs and a wot! [01:58]
ben_vulpes: thanks trinque, phf [01:58]
mircea_popescu: !lord diana_coman [09:49]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:49]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/a49dece4-fbc4-4d3a-afa9-b1ae2085df8b/ [09:49]
mircea_popescu: o la la [09:49]
mircea_popescu: !v A3E33DB8F824C115206CB9A8B6B2EDF701556F664741761E8EDF5CE6662D12F7 [09:51]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:51]
deedbot: deedbot rated diana_coman 1 [09:51]
mircea_popescu: trinque it'd be much better to include a digest of the command being processed in the pad. [09:52]
mircea_popescu: something like lord.diana_coman.A3E33DB8F824C115206CB9A8B6B2EDF701556F664741761E8EDF5CE6662D12F7 or such. [09:52]
mircea_popescu: there's two reasons for this. one's that it eases management of otps if people batch it the other's that it acts as a salt offering some protection against some mostly theoretical attacks against privkeys. [09:53]
mircea_popescu: !lord hanbot [09:54]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:54]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/5eecb1dd-ca45-42f3-a08c-5e2438afd14c/ [09:54]
mircea_popescu: !v DB42B53A55C9AF2E40ED370E3BF2D8CD05E5F2D4D82D31F94808B290E5D6ACA2 [09:54]
deedbot: deedbot rated hanbot 1 [09:54]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:54]
mircea_popescu: poor gribble. [09:55]
mircea_popescu: !lord trinque [09:55]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:55]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/e453fef2-da1e-4967-94d8-26d4f5e5f90d/ [09:55]
mircea_popescu: !v 85F6057DA4C8E49DDE741F615A295D66DFA6251F001200568A58DFFF66D78C4D [09:55]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:55]
deedbot: deedbot rated trinque 1 [09:55]
mircea_popescu: trinque thinking about it, we'll hafta use a diff control sequence. ! won't work. how about say $ ? [09:56]
mircea_popescu: $hola bots ? [09:56]
mircea_popescu: mebbe [09:56]
mircea_popescu: %anybotshere ? [09:56]
mircea_popescu: ^ is very bad and [09:56]
mircea_popescu: &was used [09:56]
mircea_popescu: or was it. hm. [09:56]
mircea_popescu: `could also work [09:57]
mircea_popescu: !lord BingoBoingo [09:57]
deedbot: BingoBoingo is not registered in WoT. [09:57]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:57]
mircea_popescu: da fuck ?! [09:57]
BingoBoingo: try lowercase? [09:57]
mircea_popescu: !lord bingoboingo [09:57]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/3e77c1f9-cd74-44c0-81a6-ae6c949dcea9/ [09:57]
mircea_popescu: aha! [09:57]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:58]
BingoBoingo: 0.o case sensitive bot. [09:58]
mircea_popescu: !v 9BF58DFB042DBD8550BEF512D7DFD06DE07246EB286C73043E482C7DA365C546 [09:58]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:58]
deedbot: deedbot rated bingoboingo 1 [09:58]
mircea_popescu: !lord mod6 [09:58]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:58]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/d61bab45-eb31-4229-88e6-e71ec0c8359c/ [09:58]
mircea_popescu: !v BAF2FFD66225232CCBC74534C0B8424659FFDF18A5D0A7C8BD854C107A6F8723 [09:59]
deedbot: deedbot rated mod6 1 [09:59]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:59]
mircea_popescu: !lord danielpbarron [09:59]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:59]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/42055f13-32c8-46cf-8b76-c4040f339419/ [09:59]
mircea_popescu: !v C8680302CD0CB18BDEBA804BDCBA02C17EEA1CDB266ECE24C52723D88F67699F [09:59]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [09:59]
deedbot: deedbot rated danielpbarron 1 [09:59]
mircea_popescu: !lord mircea_popescu [09:59]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [09:59]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/97361ded-ef47-435d-8a04-598cde499232/ [09:59]
mircea_popescu: !v 131029CC8611133016940C1536D5BD6818D0252A654BBEE83C3E80266B599F5E [10:00]
deedbot: deedbot rated mircea_popescu 1 [10:00]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:00]
mircea_popescu: !lord mike_c [10:00]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [10:00]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/92928145-d186-46ed-b7c8-caf8c01fa0d9/ [10:00]
mircea_popescu: !v 6AA6093696E8DE710B702C1F6280BA31EB6934947505AD8836D4AD58F46711FC [10:00]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:00]
deedbot: deedbot rated mike_c 1 [10:00]
trinque: yep I can swap that character at front [10:00]
mircea_popescu: also maybe make the actual otp meat base64 ? [10:01]
mircea_popescu: or not, really. [10:01]
mircea_popescu: !lord asciilifeform [10:01]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [10:01]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/a4cb9bbe-ac8d-4b2c-b14a-e20bada1d8d1/ [10:01]
mircea_popescu: !v 37F77391931AB3B4057CAEDB5DADADBF7B7E59FFD86ACAF9637ADEC31F501CC7 [10:01]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:01]
deedbot: deedbot rated asciilifeform 1 [10:01]
mircea_popescu: !lord davout [10:02]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [10:02]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/9a7d6689-acdc-4f5d-8737-f44710b9959b/ [10:02]
mircea_popescu: !v A72B1389E369FB4D029B54239077B230B5C2056972B791B56CA94A97D32AF900 [10:03]
deedbot: deedbot rated davout 1 [10:03]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: !rate ben_vulpes [10:03]
gribble: (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten. [10:03]
deedbot: hands you a broomstick. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: !lord ben_vulpes [10:03]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [10:03]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/5182a692-34f0-4d70-9e21-82fe6d3557c5/ [10:03]
mircea_popescu: what, am i a witch ? [10:03]
trinque: lol [10:03]
trinque: error message! [10:03]
mircea_popescu: !v 12B15285872E0D6BEBA0CE2EA956B440B2A4D9BA23B6AB2BFA1559C5E92B9CE5 [10:03]
deedbot: deedbot rated ben_vulpes 1 [10:03]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: ahgaha cool. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: wait, is the bot intimating i'm gay ?! [10:04]
mircea_popescu: !lord phf [10:04]
gribble: Error: "lord" is not a valid command. [10:04]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/76741275-66cf-43d6-9e28-1b0ff5d5f236/ [10:04]
mircea_popescu: !v EBB7544D91EAA48272527B2A91AD468206F9A386DF296CAB43A6C73D1888A587 [10:04]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [10:04]
deedbot: deedbot rated phf 1 [10:04]
trinque: nah the other one [10:08]
trinque: "deedbot" [10:08]
trinque: the one with dash is the old python one headed for the chopping block [10:08]
mircea_popescu: uhh [10:08]
trinque: ah you did both, nbd [10:08]
mircea_popescu: whole new pile of mysteryes. [10:08]
mircea_popescu: trinque * ChanServ removes channel operator status from deedbot [10:09]
trinque: wat [10:09]
mircea_popescu: nfi. looking into it. [10:09]
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- No help available for ROLES. [10:13]
mircea_popescu: apparently they fucked it up silently, /msg ChanServ AOP #trilema deedbot no longer works and so on. [10:13]
mircea_popescu: fwiw /msg ChanServ FLAGS #trilema deedbot +AOhiortv still works, so w/e. [10:14]
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- 23 deedbot +AVtv (#trilema) [modified 11s ago, on Apr 02 14:15:23 2016] [10:15]
mircea_popescu: so basically, /msg ChanServ FLAGS #trilema deedbot +AHVhtv only works halfway, i guess they did a buncha undocumented changes to the op/halfop/etc mess. [10:16]
mircea_popescu: fwiw /msg ChanServ FLAGS #trilema deedbot +AOhiortv still works, so w/e. [10:16]
trinque: a script's chugging away importing all the existing pubkeys [10:18]
mircea_popescu: o wow check me out! [10:21]
trinque: boom! [10:21]
trinque: !up aegis [10:21]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [10:21]
deedbot: aegis voiced for 30 minutes. [10:21]
mircea_popescu: alrighty everyone - you'll be losing the autovoice. if you want voice, plox to say !up to deedbot in pm and then !v his otp. [10:21]
mircea_popescu: aaaand there we go! wo hoo. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: !up teleconnor [10:26]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [10:26]
deedbot: teleconnor voiced for 30 minutes. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: !up sakasama [10:26]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [10:26]
deedbot: sakasama voiced for 30 minutes. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: !up alex_cai [10:26]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [10:26]
deedbot: alex_cai voiced for 30 minutes. [10:26]
mircea_popescu: trinque totally gotta change that ! [10:27]
trinque: yep, that sucks. [10:27]
trinque: one sec. [10:27]
mircea_popescu: !up bitesak [10:28]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [10:28]
deedbot: bitesak voiced for 30 minutes. [10:28]
trinque: $up shinohai [10:34]
deedbot: shinohai voiced for 30 minutes. [10:34]
trinque: mircea_popescu: ^ [10:34]
mircea_popescu: win [10:34]
mircea_popescu: $up midnightmagic [10:34]
deedbot: midnightmagic voiced for 30 minutes. [10:34]
mircea_popescu: say $up to deedbot midnightmagic [10:34]
trinque: since I grew up in a sewer, the fact that you can go edit a running common lisp program will always bring me great joy. [10:34]
midnightmagic: Hello. Is perma-+v still via a bot or is there another method now..? [10:34]
trinque: :D [10:34]
midnightmagic: ok [10:34]
midnightmagic: Is it still WoT-based or is it a list? [10:35]
trinque: $gettrust deedbot midnightmagic [10:35]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections. [10:35]
midnightmagic: \o cheers [10:35]
mircea_popescu: aha. [10:35]
mircea_popescu: trinque i gotta say it's pretty fucking cool even for people who didn't grow up at all. [10:37]
mircea_popescu: $v diana_coman [10:40]
mircea_popescu: heh... is it crashed ? [10:40]
mircea_popescu: a, timed it wrong lol. [10:40]
diana_coman: I think it was my fault, I timed it precisely in the middle of the change, lol [10:41]
ben_vulpes: syn [10:50]
danielpbarron: there's plans to make the url for getting the encrypted thing uniform, right? [10:57]
ben_vulpes: why would you want that? [11:00]
ben_vulpes: moreover, how would you make that work with batching? [11:01]
mircea_popescu: what's uniform mean here ? [11:03]
danielpbarron: http://w.b-a.link/otps/danielpbarron/last << like this [11:05]
mircea_popescu: oh oh. [11:10]
mircea_popescu: heh not a trivial thing this, as currently arranged is it [11:10]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he obviously wants it for blind process. [11:12]
mircea_popescu: "make request, wait so and so, look in this url, proceed" [11:12]
ben_vulpes: yes quite obvious, trying to get him to reconsider automating the control rods [11:13]
mircea_popescu: you know, trinque asciilifeform phf ben_vulpes and other folks with the lisp interest : diana_coman 's mishap earlier makes me think about this. so... "changing code without restart is pretty cool". subjectively, it feels that way, i feel it. but then ... what of the people caught in mid transaction by an invisible change ? seems to me this coolness resolves no actual problem, just pushes the goop around. [11:14]
mircea_popescu: yeah, you no longer have to handle the indignity of restart. [11:15]
mircea_popescu: but you gotta debug the "wtf this isn't working" complaints of people - and you're even less equipped to handle that, if nothing else because novel. [11:15]
ben_vulpes: same'd likely have happened even under restart conditions. difference'd be that the chan would (maybe) see a join/part [11:16]
mircea_popescu: and so would she have, and tried again. [11:16]
mircea_popescu: there's this "reboot machine" "try again" close coupling that's more the c way than anything about arrays. [11:16]
danielpbarron: well i still manually move the resulting .asc file to an airgapped machine.. [11:17]
asciilifeform: reboots are retarded. QED. [11:17]
ben_vulpes: ^^ [11:17]
mircea_popescu: are you gonna engage the debate or quote bible at it ? [11:17]
danielpbarron: me? [11:17]
asciilifeform: neither is sanity limited to lisp world. talk to the ericsson folks, with erlang, what, gonna restart swedish phone grid ? [11:17]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron not you, him. [11:18]
ben_vulpes: what, people are accustomed to hammering their fingers in the door, so i should allow for people who want me to hammer their fingers before letting them into the house? [11:18]
danielpbarron: oh, different Bible, heh [11:18]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sanity also includes ~actually specifying~ the fallover behaviours. [11:18]
asciilifeform: so that nothing burps. [11:18]
mircea_popescu: can we talk about this here thing instead of other things! [11:18]
mircea_popescu: oh. [11:18]
asciilifeform: as in, on tick t, you get routine r1, on tick t+1, r2. [11:18]
mircea_popescu: like that yeah. you have any idea what sort of task this is ? [11:18]
asciilifeform: actually yes. [11:18]
mircea_popescu: specifically : i would judge trinque did 10% of the job yet. still has to specific. [11:18]
mircea_popescu: specify* [11:19]
asciilifeform: i have not read his thing, my 1st exposure is just a minute ago, authing with it. [11:19]
mircea_popescu: ticks ? the lord of time have mercy on your soul. [11:19]
asciilifeform: but yes, guess what, this is a solved problem in 1970s [11:19]
mircea_popescu: dating is a solved problem in 1970 ad. [11:19]
asciilifeform: as are voting circuits, and other aspects of a sane computer [11:19]
mircea_popescu: for that matter, "how to be rich" is idem problem solved, by orcs even. [11:20]
mircea_popescu: "go, steal!" [11:20]
asciilifeform: 'yarrrr become a pirrrate' dun scale. [11:20]
asciilifeform: sanity - scales. [11:20]
mircea_popescu: orly ? ask the greeks. [11:20]
asciilifeform: if not scales, not sanity, qed! [11:20]
mircea_popescu: "why would a healty man work the field - when there's all this booty in gold and ass to be had ? is he mentally deffective ? a coward ?" [11:20]
mircea_popescu: so say teh ancient scrolls! [11:21]
mircea_popescu: "if not scales, not sanity" is exactly a restatement of "all men are equal" [11:21]
asciilifeform: hey some folks can't do game theory, the gods dropped them as babies, what can i do [11:21]
mircea_popescu: wait, you mean the greeks can't do gt ? [11:21]
asciilifeform: the 'why plow the fields' [11:21]
ben_vulpes: returning to 'boots on the ground', mircea_popescu raises a valid point about changing the interface on users. but the "it should restart on code change to tell users things changed" imposes a very painful, unnecessary constraint on diddling deployed systems. [11:22]
mircea_popescu: right. so the theory of this here reformation is that they were kinda dumb and didn't understand the glory of modernity ? [11:22]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the same sense the easter island folks were dumb [11:22]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it is very painful. the "unnecessary" item is still being touched here. [11:22]
asciilifeform: and couldn't, or wouldn't, think N steps ahead [11:22]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and how you know this ? [11:22]
mircea_popescu: and buy [11:22]
asciilifeform: do not know, i never hung out with them... can only conjecture. [11:23]
asciilifeform: from the corpse. [11:23]
trinque: I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods. [11:23]
mircea_popescu: and by "this" i mean : 1) how do you know thinking steps ahead is possible 2) how do you know were it possible you're doing it 3) how do you know were it possible and you doing it they weren't. [11:23]
trinque: the !up should've still worked, method was still there [11:23]
trinque: I just added the $up alongside. [11:23]
mircea_popescu: trinque so ambiguity resolves this issue you say ? [11:23]
trinque: it could've also been that I was running a pubkey import script and it hadn't caught up to her [11:23]
trinque: nah [11:23]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negative to all 3. again, i only ~suspect~. when i pull the parachute cord, i also do not ~know~ that it will open. [11:23]
mircea_popescu: yawell, then how is it fit for this discussion here! [11:24]
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants certainties fit for the godz, he'dve stuck to mathematics, no ? [11:24]
* asciilifeform brb phood [11:24]
mircea_popescu: well so far all i want is to discuss things cleanly with phriendz, as you say. [11:25]
mircea_popescu: i'd say experience shows i'm not exactly one to hesitate before dubious action when action is required by events. [11:26]
ben_vulpes: o.O [11:27]
diana_coman: <trinque> I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods. <- I sent the !up apparently before the change and it worked but then the !v did not work as meanwhile the change was made (or so I gathered) [11:27]
mircea_popescu: he says it should have worked regardless. [11:28]
mircea_popescu: !up [11:28]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command. [11:28]
mircea_popescu: maybe changed meanwhile. [11:28]
trinque: $rated ben_vulpes [11:29]
deedbot: trinque rated ben_vulpes 3 at 3623669040 << friend, gentleman, warrior [11:29]
trinque: hm, need to change those timestamps to something more readable [11:29]
mircea_popescu: having fun ? [11:30]
mircea_popescu: o btw, how do i get key ? [11:31]
mircea_popescu: $key trinque [11:31]
deedbot: $key trinque is not a command. [11:31]
trinque: want that to barf the fingerprint? [11:31]
mircea_popescu: no, the pubkey [11:31]
trinque: k [11:31]
mircea_popescu: it'll be very useful because i use gpg auth for eulora, will just have new players reg and then i can get their key [11:32]
mircea_popescu: $rated deedbot [11:33]
deedbot: mircea_popescu has not rated deedbot. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: $rate deedbot 10 It is indeed a bot. [11:33]
deedbot: deedbot is not registered in WoT. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: aaaahahahahaha [11:34]
trinque: d'oh [11:39]
trinque: $key trinque [11:39]
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/597ad7ee-20fe-4399-8972-0d68e3bb3d87/ [11:39]
mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3820 << kinda interesting. lot of hay is made about "cruel treatment of black slaves", conveniently eschewing the fact that cruel tratament was - and rightfully so! - reserved for POOR PEOPLE. [11:39]
mircea_popescu: exactly no racial exception was made or considered, nigger, mick, greaseball, hebe, what have you. [11:40]
mircea_popescu: "do not be poor" being the whole of the law. [11:40]
trinque: $key deedbot [11:41]
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/6d401799-9e75-4cb4-81c5-d92ad7e49f9f/ [11:41]
mircea_popescu: very nice. [11:41]
asciilifeform: aaaactually [11:51]
mircea_popescu: $rate deedbot 10 It is indeed a bot. [11:52]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/d3bc497f-b5ae-43ca-884a-7bb601641420/ [11:52]
shinohai: >.> [11:52]
mircea_popescu: !v C932CF28D825147F556AE640DB3D650CA951227C5B8D716CF8B4BBA264BE42F7 [11:52]
gribble: Error: "v" is not a valid command. [11:52]
shinohai: nice trinque ! Grilling salmon for lunch, will rate upon return :D [11:52]
mircea_popescu: $v C932CF28D825147F556AE640DB3D650CA951227C5B8D716CF8B4BBA264BE42F7 [11:52]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: w.j.cash's 'the mind of the south' describes interesting thing: how the p000rwhitez of the old south were in a historically unique position, where the elite ~did not need them for anything~, nor even bothered to hunt for sport, because they took up space that wasn't cotton or tobacco - enabled [11:52]
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated deedbot 10 << It is indeed a bot. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is that part also, yes. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: whereas the north had a very good use for them, even pre war. stalin was no doubt inspired by it. [11:53]
asciilifeform: now cash did not go into this, but it is a sort of scathing indictment of the 'if only poor folk were LEFT ALONE!11111 they would FLOWER!11' thing. [11:53]
asciilifeform: because they summed to ~0. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: had the southern drunkards have the presence of mind to correctly use the grease, they'd have blown the puritans out of water. [11:54]
mircea_popescu: that indictment is rank nonsense. [11:54]
mircea_popescu: what else, cows would flower if left alone ? [11:54]
asciilifeform: 'it' being not the book, but the historical fact [11:54]
asciilifeform: the poor whites - were not exploited by anybody. [11:55]
asciilifeform: and still summed to 0, just as wild cows in india. [11:55]
mircea_popescu: the ghetto blacks are also not exploited by anybody today. [11:55]
mircea_popescu: "oh but they had no opportunities" [11:55]
shinohai: $gettrust deedbot [11:55]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 1 connections. [11:55]
mircea_popescu: according to whom, themselves ? [11:55]
asciilifeform: idk, being fed into helplessness like squirrels in a park, does not count as 'exploit' ? [11:56]
mircea_popescu: you have the opportunity to start your own gun and cunt trade baltimore operation. factually. except if we ask you. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: if we ask you, you don't. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: and if we ask the ghetto blacks, or the southern whites, or on and on and on. [11:56]
mircea_popescu: "oh if only opportunitits" [11:56]
asciilifeform: hey i haven't even started a carpet shop or bakery yet. [11:57]
mircea_popescu: yawell, opportunity doth not ask for permission either to come or go. [11:57]
asciilifeform: (because i'm not a carpet maker or baker, no l3v3r4g3, l0l) [11:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform examples used for illustratory purposes only! [11:57]
asciilifeform: mmok [11:57]
asciilifeform: but sure, i also did not go and ask the squirrels in the part whether their feeding was an abuse [11:58]
asciilifeform: somehow it did not occur to me, to do this. [11:58]
mircea_popescu: opportunity is in any case an ex post facto construction. [11:58]
asciilifeform: aha [11:59]
asciilifeform: it is only ever mentioned for some reason as an excuse-making gadget [11:59]
asciilifeform: a thing-one-did-not-have-and-so-now-suck [11:59]
mircea_popescu: whole argument is circular. "why arent these schmucks making anything of themselves ?" "because they didn't have the opportunity" ie, "because they haven't made anything of themselves" "oh i see" [11:59]
phf: Test [12:12]
phf: Oh I'm still voiced, I was going to say, re "modifying live image is just a cool trick", yes it's not substitute for understanding because nothing is, that's what the tom knight koan is about [12:13]
ben_vulpes: technical note, all wotpastes linked in #trilema will expire in 36 hours. i'll have to work with phf to get something in place to preserve pastes from #trilema. [12:18]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's plan/eta with logs ? trinque mike_c phf ? [12:21]
phf: My thing will be live Sunday eve [12:23]
phf: But I think there's a useful question of how to reliably reconcile multiple log collectors [12:24]
phf: And distribute those logs to interested parties (like ben_vulpes's paste thing) [12:25]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought pastes were intrinsically a temporary thing [12:28]
asciilifeform: (if you want something perma-preserved it goes elsewhere) [12:28]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://flightless-wings.tumblr.com/post/141914109588 [12:28]
asciilifeform: waiwut [12:29]
asciilifeform: why 3rd [12:29]
mircea_popescu: no you don't understand. conspiraci! power! stuff is occuring! [12:29]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, perhaps because in the half dozen strong warbands of the middle class juveniles the 2nd is the only ACTUALY hierarchy position ? 1-2-bunch ? [12:30]
mircea_popescu: hey missus tallygirl, tally my banana! [12:31]
mircea_popescu: night is coming and i'd rather go ho-om! [12:31]
asciilifeform: also how would anonchik 'undermine' something [12:31]
asciilifeform: am i thick or wut [12:31]
mircea_popescu: you don't understand! IMPORTANT THINGS OF IMPORTANCE! [12:32]
asciilifeform: was there context, or the like [12:34]
asciilifeform: how does mircea_popescu even come across such a turd [12:34]
mircea_popescu: i spy! [12:34]
asciilifeform: i'd sooner spy on a walrus convention (e.g. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/842/84293.adapt.768.1.jpg ) than reddit, but that's just me... [12:35]
trinque: phf's log viewer looks very nice if that's not close enough to completion I can put one up on monday. [12:36]
mircea_popescu: aite. [12:36]
mircea_popescu: here asciilifeform, to make it all good. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lolz.jpg [12:39]
asciilifeform: l0l! [12:39]
mircea_popescu: beaver convention close enough. [12:39]
asciilifeform: l00ks like bottle is full! [12:40]
asciilifeform: mega-flavour-addition [12:40]
mircea_popescu: how else to get it out ? [12:40]
mircea_popescu: shake booty. [12:40]
mircea_popescu: could build this up to artillery regiment strength. [12:40]
mircea_popescu: 1st cunt grenadiers. [12:41]
ben_vulpes: interesting yeast sourcing, mircea_popescu [12:41]
ben_vulpes: around here we just have hipster girls frolicking in meadows waving empty mason jars around [12:42]
mircea_popescu: ha. [12:42]
mircea_popescu: well... more primitive inland oui [12:43]
ben_vulpes: inland i believe they source yeast roles from landwhale folds [12:47]
asciilifeform: urgh [12:47]
ben_vulpes: (i don't know where that errant 'roles' came from) [12:47]
ben_vulpes: in other news, the keccak reference implementation appears to have been written on a windows machine [12:51]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: surprised ? [12:51]
ben_vulpes: god no [12:51]
ben_vulpes: bahaha [12:52]
ben_vulpes: http://keccak.noekeon.org/tweetfips202.html << lulzy shit [12:52]
* trinque afk for a while [12:53]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that thing isn't self-contained [12:53]
asciilifeform: where are the sha* functions defined ? [12:53]
asciilifeform: and who the hell cares re how many 'tweets' wtf [12:54]
ben_vulpes: surely they're just available for dynamic linking in twitter's global namespace [12:54]
asciilifeform: next we calculate how many sheets of toiler paper trb fits on, etc. [12:56]
asciilifeform: *toilet [12:56]
ben_vulpes: yes yes [12:56]
ben_vulpes: see also 'lulzy shit' [12:56]
asciilifeform: am i the only one here who has never used twatter for anything. [12:57]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al : did jurov stop working as trb treasurer , coinbr operator ? i must have missed this ? 'cause i dun see him in the mircea_popescutronic list [12:58]
ben_vulpes: submitted the foundation statement yesterday, i've heard of no resignation [12:59]
asciilifeform: and speaking of other enigmas, did we ever learn what the 200 btc in http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report were ? [13:03]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not afaik [13:34]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and who the hell cares re how many 'tweets' wtf << girls. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: in other "us will totally defeat isis" news, "Drained [13:39]
mircea_popescu: I kinda just wwant to run away and never come back. Or sleep forever. Or jus die. I’m tired of this shit. I feel so drained. I Can’t do this life thing anymore. It’s too hard and I’m not strong enough for this. I wasn’t meant to be here. I wasn’t meant for this. I’m so tired of faking a smile every damn day of my life. I’m tired of dealing with the horrible people of this world cause honestly? I don’t know m [13:39]
mircea_popescu: any great people who aren’t pieces of shit. I want to either be ignorantly happy, or fucking just die dude. There’s nothing for me here anymore besides my boyfriend but he’ll be better off without me. I feel like I just hold him back…My family would be so much happier if I was gone. I’m the reason everyone’s life sucks. Someone buy me a gun…" [13:39]
asciilifeform: l0lwut [14:05]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i always wonder, why 'someone buy me', a .22 can be had in usa (where i assume this unfortunate creature lives) for < cost of 'ipod' [14:06]
asciilifeform: plenty good enough for the job [14:07]
mircea_popescu: eh she's rapemeat. can't even fuck unless someone ties her down first. [14:08]
asciilifeform: 'that precious last round! that i save! for myself!' (tm) (r) ('последний патрон', afgan, transl. mine) [14:09]
asciilifeform: in related nyooz, old #b-a now ~entirely dead, kako just tossed out scoopbot... [14:11]
asciilifeform: RIP. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/eccf3269f2aa68a74a152a866d149f1d/tumblr_nvwz4gn9SK1s7fw1no1_1280.jpg [14:14]
asciilifeform: l0ltr0n1c! [14:14]
asciilifeform: where, i wonder, filmed ? [14:14]
mircea_popescu: department of fairness services ? [14:14]
asciilifeform: they look like ~all $1 [14:14]
ben_vulpes: strip club, singles [14:14]
asciilifeform: ah. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: likely. [14:15]
mircea_popescu: oh and speaking of a certain subculture, http://40.media.tumblr.com/f4a1fad0da42700dd7c0a56c585a8d2f/tumblr_o3fefwEoRk1umdjsdo1_1280.jpg [14:16]
asciilifeform: hm, airplane? [14:16]
mircea_popescu: rented limo ? [14:17]
asciilifeform: l0l i have nfi, have never seen inside. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: you didn't graduate hs ? [14:17]
asciilifeform: there was no limo there [14:17]
asciilifeform: afaik. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: o.O [14:17]
mircea_popescu: might be only one. [14:17]
asciilifeform: in ro there was ?! [14:17]
mircea_popescu: a, no. but this is us we're talking of! [14:18]
ben_vulpes: i can attest to this [14:18]
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall having to drive myself. [14:18]
asciilifeform: in ordinary toyota. [14:18]
mircea_popescu: possibly the most ghetto thing about you. [14:18]
mircea_popescu: "yo bitch - i drove myself to prom. in toyota." [14:19]
asciilifeform: l3l [14:19]
ben_vulpes: dude toyotas aren't ghetto [14:19]
mircea_popescu: you and jamal. [14:19]
ben_vulpes: they're "fiscally sensible" [14:19]
mircea_popescu: o ? toyota civic, neh ? [14:19]
ben_vulpes: infiniti [14:19]
asciilifeform: me an' shaka zulu, l0l [14:19]
ben_vulpes: civic is 'poor' not 'ghetto' [14:19]
* ben_vulpes knows, has a civic [14:19]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do these hipster derps completely miss what "fiscal" means ? [14:19]
asciilifeform: some ancient toyota, i forget what, early '90s vintage, inherited [14:19]
mircea_popescu: people can't fucking be fiscally anything. [14:19]
ben_vulpes: "fistally sensible" [14:20]
ben_vulpes: "i sensed this fist in me" [14:20]
mircea_popescu: kek [14:20]
ben_vulpes: "i'm not ghetto! i swear!" [14:21]
mircea_popescu: in further exploratory news, http://solacebaby.tumblr.com/post/131373681714 [14:21]
mircea_popescu: she knows her concepts and what's a boot. [14:21]
asciilifeform: l0l in related nyooz i tried a floor washing machine thing, with steampunk water circulator, spinning brushes, etc. and somehow it managed to remove ~NO DIRT [14:22]
asciilifeform: the wonderz of cn tech. [14:22]
mircea_popescu: but did it spin/circulate ? [14:22]
asciilifeform: aha! [14:22]
asciilifeform: i bet this was the point! [14:22]
mircea_popescu: spreading works. [14:22]
asciilifeform: like 'vacuuming' with a plank nailed to a stick [14:22]
asciilifeform: prolly built to satisfy haranguing wives, etc [14:22]
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/6d0969c885a0ef62e088666d44920ca4/tumblr_mokay6vp9N1rfbedno1_1280.jpg << speaking of which. floor cleaning is noob slave job. [14:23]
asciilifeform: that floor looks terrible! [14:23]
mircea_popescu: well yeh but the cowsies look satisfied ? [14:24]
asciilifeform: possib, i'm not mega-bovine-expert [14:24]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc 'civic' was an old honda. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: i thought honda makes motorbikes [14:25]
asciilifeform: the toyota of the period was called 'corola' [14:25]
asciilifeform: l0l [14:25]
mircea_popescu: :D [14:25]
asciilifeform: everyone knows only Ural makes motorbikes! [14:26]
asciilifeform: 111 and zundap. [14:26]
asciilifeform: i have a neighbour, a few streets down, who actually owns a ural. [14:26]
mircea_popescu: is it still as loud ? [14:27]
asciilifeform: much! [14:27]
asciilifeform: when it runs, which is, idk, a month/yr [14:27]
mircea_popescu: (iirc at the time it was advertised as a feature - keeps bear away) [14:27]
asciilifeform: the rest of the time the pistons are laid out on his balcony [14:27]
asciilifeform: lookin' very sad [14:27]
asciilifeform: it blew my mind, to see that machine here on this side of atlantic [14:27]
asciilifeform: i suppose everyone needs a lispm, or a bbet, or the like [14:28]
asciilifeform: some old rusty anchor to bring to life [14:28]
mircea_popescu: possibru [14:28]
mircea_popescu: hmm trinque did deedbot die ? [14:34]
mircea_popescu: also which is the blogs title thing one, deedbot- ? or ? [14:35]
trinque: yeah, that one's doing rss until I write an rss thinger for the new one [14:37]
* trinque is looking for a part message for deedbot [14:37]
trinque: he thinks he's still connected on the other end.. [14:37]
trinque: ah there it is. [14:37]
mircea_popescu: $up deedbot- [14:43]
mircea_popescu: where is it ? [14:43]
trinque: wtf? [14:45]
trinque: alright one sec, I see why [14:45]
trinque: hanbot: give $up another go [14:50]
trinque: $up deedbot- [14:50]
trinque: eh blew up again, gpg is asking for input [14:50]
trinque: $up deedbot- [14:53]
deedbot: deedbot- voiced for 30 minutes. [14:53]
hanbot: thanks trinque! [15:02]
trinque: yw, thanks for breaking it! :D [15:03]
trinque: my next order of business is having a proper deployment process for new code. [15:04]
trinque: I'm going to delete the record which would de-voice other deedbot- . [15:06]
ben_vulpes: "rsync and asdf:load-system" (tm r phf) [15:07]
ben_vulpes: oh and tmux [15:07]
* trinque hangs head in shame [15:07]
trinque: it is in a tmux currently. [15:07]
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely certain this is such a bad thing [15:07]
trinque: I have seen the hell that is "what the fuck is in this repl, and oh right, it is not what is on disk." [15:08]
* ben_vulpes chuckles darkly [15:08]
ben_vulpes: http://clojurewest.org/speakers#ssierra << related [15:08]
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt.tar.gz [15:14]
mircea_popescu: bout 600k lines. [15:14]
mircea_popescu: more notable firsts : [15:15]
mircea_popescu: Feb 10 04:08:05 <benkay> i'm waiting for the developing world to figure it out [15:15]
mircea_popescu: Feb 02 19:50:31 <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: working on it [15:16]
mircea_popescu: Dec 08 15:28:54 <davout> hi mircea! [15:17]
mircea_popescu: Sep 17 21:44:13 <jurov> heh, i prefer kibiBTC = 1024 BTC , mebiBTC = 1048576 BTC :D [15:18]
mircea_popescu: Jan 31 17:40:00 <BingoBongo> Glad I took this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/175/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-14-88-and/ [15:19]
mircea_popescu: Aug 17 20:15:29 <mod6> hai [15:19]
mircea_popescu: Apr (2013) 07 13:33:23 <punkman> a very hot oven [15:20]
mircea_popescu: Oct 07 17:09:09 <thestringpuller_> Each asset is unique no? [15:20]
mircea_popescu: old times. [15:20]
mircea_popescu: $ sha512sum tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt [15:22]
mircea_popescu: b428627eb901269896d71ee47ebb789e9c29ce85f5bb0cb2d5f1f21457ec1f8d6d7109c208b9741a3d6bbd20ad4e6507b04a470eca13d529daafc18fcd5e147e tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt [15:23]
deedbot: $ sha512sum tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt is not a command. [15:23]
ben_vulpes: can someone tell me what the syntax `unsigned int& nNonce = *(unsigned int*)(pdata + 12)` in the context of http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2661 means? [15:25]
mircea_popescu: pointer to an unsigned integer to be called nNonce and to be equal to the value cast to an unsigned int of the contents of the variable pdata incremented by 12 [15:26]
ben_vulpes: well when you put it that way it's blindingly obvious [15:27]
mircea_popescu: ianace, but anyways. [15:28]
asciilifeform: waiwut [15:29]
ben_vulpes: wutwut [15:30]
shinohai: $rate deedbot 10 The new eye of providence. [15:54]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/a8b361ad-d7bf-4563-9b40-405ee4ff3465/ [15:55]
shinohai: $v 7C53E58E28EA04187D9B66EE6974D41A7AE997B53A3C7AD119D5D9B502665545 [15:55]
deedbot: shinohai rated deedbot 10 << The new eye of providence. [15:55]
shinohai: $up phf [15:56]
deedbot: shinohai may not $up phf [15:56]
shinohai: :( [15:56]
shinohai: Muy estricto [15:56]
shinohai: $up phf_mobile [15:57]
deedbot: shinohai may not $up phf_mobile [15:57]
shinohai: nope [15:57]
asciilifeform: $up phf_mobile [15:58]
deedbot: phf_mobile voiced for 30 minutes. [15:58]
phf_mobile: thanks [15:58]
asciilifeform: looks like only l1 can up ? [15:58]
phf: i can has log reader sometime today tomorrow [15:58]
shinohai: I suppose so [15:59]
phf: it requires plenty of work, but only thing i need to wrap up is actual collection [15:59]
phf: at present it only knows how to pick up kakobrekla's logs and whatever my znc is producing [16:00]
shinohai: I tried the whole log thing but mine looked like Eulora's - non searchable. [16:01]
shinohai: Tho inside of bot they are certainly grep 'able >.< [16:01]
asciilifeform: $up TRS80` [16:03]
TRS80`: asciilifeform: Error: You don't have the #trilema,voice capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. [16:03]
deedbot: TRS80` voiced for 30 minutes. [16:03]
asciilifeform: wut [16:03]
asciilifeform: trinque: bugalicious? [16:04]
asciilifeform: $whoami [16:05]
deedbot: $whoami is not a command. [16:05]
TRS80`: asciilifeform: I don't recognize you. You can message me either of these two commands: "user identify <username> <password>" to log in or "user register <username> <password>" to register. [16:05]
TRS80`: deedbot: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command. [16:05]
asciilifeform: $down TRS80` [16:05]
TRS80`: asciilifeform: Error: I need to be opped to devoice someone. [16:05]
asciilifeform: l0l [16:05]
asciilifeform: what even was that thing [16:06]
shinohai: $part [16:07]
deedbot: $part is not a command. [16:07]
mod6: <+trinque> since I grew up in a sewer, the fact that you can go edit a running common lisp program will always bring me great joy. << this is very cool [16:09]
shinohai: sorry i realized my bot and trinque 's have conflicting prefixes xD [16:10]
asciilifeform: $up jurov [16:23]
deedbot: jurov voiced for 30 minutes. [16:23]
asciilifeform: trinque: gonna import wot ? [16:24]
asciilifeform: or it is already in, and mircea_popescu is doing l1-only autovoice ?? or wut [16:24]
jurov: asciilifeform: nobody asked me to stop anything, i can continue doing these things regardless of being on some list [16:28]
jurov: and ty for voice [16:28]
ben_vulpes: hi jurov [16:36]
jurov: hi ben_vulpes [16:38]
jurov: are you okay with having a treasurer not on "people mp likes to talk to" list? [16:38]
ben_vulpes: i am not pleased by many things about the schism, jurov [16:41]
shinohai: Que sera, sera. [16:42]
phf: i think you guys are reading too much into it [16:42]
ben_vulpes: i do not understand mircea_popescu's selection criteria for the new l1, but i don't think i am given to. [16:42]
danielpbarron: $v DEA09E8CA22C985EF0678C761512D5AF1E77467D5E3746F48D8252AA31EB3991 [16:43]
deedbot: danielpbarron updated rating of assbot from 1 to -1 << #bitcoin-assets bot [16:43]
ben_vulpes: hahaha [16:43]
danielpbarron: $v 41202DCCE470C75C8DAB987BBF72CDBACAAC01BA97FFCB324AE7446C0D7983F4 [16:45]
ben_vulpes: jurov: but hey perhaps it actually strengthens things to have infrastructure operated by people of varying rank in the various wots [16:45]
ben_vulpes: not having a single model for what anything means is a feature. [16:45]
deedbot: danielpbarron rated deedbot 1 << #trilema bot [16:45]
ben_vulpes: i'm trying to not read too much into it, basically. [16:45]
jurov: me too, but it apparently comes with unability to self-voice [16:46]
jurov: $gettrust deedbot jurov [16:46]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 10 by 10 connections. [16:46]
jurov: &up [16:46]
jurov: $up [16:46]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/76ba2e5e-fbb5-44b7-9c5e-a86661a8ae65/ [16:46]
jurov: rly. first time i was told <deedbot> jurov may not $up [16:47]
ben_vulpes: jurov: trinque is frantically encrypting otps by hand behind the curtain [16:47]
phf: i'd ask trinque what the intended behavior is, and whethre or not there's a bug in the system. the new bot's been operational for whole 5 hours [16:47]
ben_vulpes: phf: i'm waiting for him to chime in [16:48]
jurov: &v B604B083FA1586ABA162EF9EB2F2F9464CF68F56164AF040922D926DE865C453 [16:48]
ben_vulpes: jurov: $ [16:48]
jurov: $v B604B083FA1586ABA162EF9EB2F2F9464CF68F56164AF040922D926DE865C453 [16:48]
deedbot: You are now voiced in #trilema [16:48]
* ben_vulpes shrugs [16:49]
ben_vulpes: this is fine [16:49]
trinque: $gettrust deedbot jurov [16:50]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 10 by 10 connections. [16:50]
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png [16:51]
shinohai: Play the fiddle as Rome burns. [16:53]
phf: an alternative to tmux can be "detachtty", which is basically a tmux for non curses processes. it's a bit handier than tmux, since it gives you a pid/ctrl/log for one process only. you can issue batch commands, by doing something like echo '(foo)' | ssh server attachtty --socket=/tmp/cmucl-123.sock [17:05]
phf: i used to use it for client project deployments, since it's much easier to wire into linux rc.d daemon management, but for casual projects i just do screen or tmux [17:06]
phf: http://www.cliki.net/detachtty [17:07]
shinohai: ^ thx phf that looks neat [17:09]
danielpbarron: $up wallflower216 [17:37]
deedbot: wallflower216 voiced for 30 minutes. [17:37]
wallflower216: thanks, danielpbarron, and cheers to all. Just a noob here used to reading the logs so lurking here [17:40]
phf: alt-prtsc-b on this x1 carbon results in immediate reboot. anyone know if that keycombo somehow makes sense? because i have that rebound to ctrl-meta-b, a very useful and frequent lisp editing command [17:42]
phf: was quite surprised [17:43]
phf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [17:51]
trinque: asciilifeform: wot is imported mircea_popescu was setting l1 [18:26]
phf: boyer moore horspool further shaves the search down to .19s, i think further optimizations are needless [19:27]
BingoBoingo: Wait "<mircea_popescu> fwiw /msg ChanServ FLAGS #trilema deedbot +AOhiortv still works, so w/e." A string fleanode accepts contains "Ohio" and "tv" could this thing be more John Kasich [20:34]
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/08WY65E.txt [20:37]
deedbot-: accepted: 1 [20:37]
asciilifeform: adlai: what's that ? [20:42]
adlai: statement hashes, for notarization [20:42]
asciilifeform: statement of ? [20:42]
adlai: profits and/or losses [20:43]
asciilifeform: adlai: whose ? [20:43]
adlai: http://w.b-a.link/user/adlai does rather speak for itself [20:44]
asciilifeform: not really ? [20:44]
adlai: jurov has been kindly humoring my delusions of "feeling like a trader", and continues to do so. [20:47]
asciilifeform: ah [20:47]
adlai: mircea_popescu: re "seems to me this coolness resolves no actual problem, just pushes the goop around.", this ends up just as bad as patching binaries directly, or worse, because it feels like you're just writing more source [21:18]
phf: the point is not so much to patch code in production (though it makes sense on lisp machine since there's no "non-production"), but to support repl-based development process [21:20]
asciilifeform: phf: lulzily, symbolics sold a 3620 (the machine i have) but in 'deployment' variant, it was physically identical but had legalese forbidding development [21:21]
asciilifeform: iirc it was called 3610? [21:22]
asciilifeform: literally no diff but for the number stamped on the chassis. [21:22]
* phf brb, about to enter union station on amtrak [21:22]
mircea_popescu: phf> i can has log reader sometime today tomorrow << worx. [21:57]
mircea_popescu: will i be able to alter trilema references to log in one single sql statement ? [21:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what even was that thing << looks like shinohai 's trial bot thing [21:58]
* asciilifeform just booted up bsd 4.4 on cardano breadboard, for ze lulz [21:58]
asciilifeform: yes it fits. [21:58]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty sure everyone should be able to voice self. [21:58]
mircea_popescu: jurov> are you okay with having a treasurer not on "people mp likes to talk to" list? << that's not really what l1 is you know. [21:58]
mircea_popescu: more like a "people responsible enough to understand the difference between 'people on tilt' and 'voices of reason'". otherwise i enjoy talking with a wide selection of folks. women, even! [21:59]
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot jurov [22:00]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 10 by 10 connections. [22:00]
* mircea_popescu digs up for what the actual criteria for voicing was [22:00]
mircea_popescu: there, found it : (l1 > 0) ||i [22:00]
asciilifeform: holy fuck c compiler worx [22:02]
mircea_popescu: the things that are surprising now. [22:02]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a tenbux uc [22:02]
asciilifeform: 1chip [22:02]
mircea_popescu: phf> an alternative to tmux can be "detachtty", << by now i'm completely sold on screen. [22:03]
mircea_popescu: phf> boyer moore horspool further shaves the search down to .19s << this is pretty epic. [22:04]
mircea_popescu: oh oh. [22:04]
BingoBoingo: Moar Horsepooler!!!11 [22:39]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how far do we actually want to go with this ancient logs kick ? [22:58]
asciilifeform: t=0 ? [22:58]
mircea_popescu: ugh. [22:59]
mircea_popescu: channes keep changing tho. -otc ? [23:02]
asciilifeform: idk, i personally don't give a nanofuck what, e.g, nefario said, but archaeologists - might... [23:03]
mircea_popescu: i suppose the matter can be revisited once there's actual archeologists. [23:04]
asciilifeform: pretty sure mircea_popescu is the closest we got to an archaeologist. [23:05]
asciilifeform: if we're going for a specifically-#trilema , i.e., mircea_popescutronic flavour, it might make sense to start the l0gz at ~his~ first contact with subj. [23:07]
mircea_popescu: it's really not terribly interesting, kinda like watching flies fuck. yes, eventually they'll evolve to pron, but meh. [23:07]
mircea_popescu: i spent half hour going through old log got utterly bored. [23:08]
danielpbarron: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Current-Julia-Tourianksi-Original-Painting-Kialara-Signature-Series-001-500-/281989019393 << bids almost up to Eulora record auction, still 8 days to go [23:27]
mircea_popescu: nb [23:27]
BingoBoingo: imagine how poor FBI interns must feel when they get hazed with tmsr lawgs [23:27]
mircea_popescu: you suppose this is what people do to each other in the bureaugencies ? pretend like they read the logs / understood trilema, give newbs a hard time ? [23:28]
mircea_popescu: "go to trilema and find me a snipe!" [23:28]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, [23:30]
mircea_popescu: "sciencehatesyou 3 points 1 day ago* I can't be bothered to read his tedious text. I also don't care what he does with his fake exchange and dumbass site, it's not like anyone was using it. The whole thing was a fake front, a facade, from day one. He has been cast out from butt circles, and as a last resort, was here trolling buttcoin for clicks using sock puppets (and man does that guy use sock puppets - 90% of the users o [23:30]
mircea_popescu: n his site, and a fair fraction of reddit's users, are him. He has nothing but time on his hands to create fake online identities). The sooner he leaves to be a full time MRA, the better." [23:30]
mircea_popescu: somehow "apple is mostly mp's fucktoy by mass" and "reddit could buy china" don't collide in her head. [23:30]
BingoBoingo: lol [23:33]
mircea_popescu: butt circles certainly has a ring to it. [23:38]
BingoBoingo: I thought butt circles were already named ani [23:38]
mircea_popescu: might depend on butt size. [23:45]
BingoBoingo: hmmm [23:47]
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "i don't understand what's being said - must be something wrong with speaker" thing never gets old. [23:48]
mircea_popescu: sorta like watching mongoloid with carpentry set. [23:48]
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [23:51]
gribble: Current Blocks: 405482 | Current Difficulty: 1.668515132827772E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 407231 | Next Difficulty In: 1749 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:51]
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