Forum logs for 01 Feb 2019

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
jurov: I have already moved, just few kilometers, still living in Slovakia, but it took better part of year to clean up the old flat for sale, the building has been renovated too. [03:40]
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/a-vvord-on-shakespear/ << Trilema -- A vvord on Shakespear [07:51]
BingoBoingo: And in other news, CIA stooge interim president rejects dialogue and diplomacy https://archive.is/hYdP3 [10:26]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i seem to recall a trilema article about stealing a country, by creating an imaginary alt-country and just pretending that's it i can't quite find it now, and it's a shame, considering how prophetic it turns out to be. [12:22]
BingoBoingo: Will look, think I remember a title snippet [12:22]
mircea_popescu: there's of course http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-215.0-223.427 also in the vein, but there was an exact one / [12:23]
mircea_popescu: mebbe alf has it indexed. [12:23]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-31-jul-2016#2138490 [12:24]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha! [12:24]
asciilifeform: ^ was a log item. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: oh it was huh! [12:24]
mircea_popescu: ty [12:24]
asciilifeform: np [12:24]
asciilifeform: (in fact had it indexed.) [12:24]
mircea_popescu: pretty shameful that this human stain still exists, incidentally. [12:25]
mircea_popescu: i'd readily trade a few endangered species or w/e, an australia or two glassed, for its erradication. [12:25]
asciilifeform: it's 1 of those brit-empire algos the current derps 'inherited' (brits packed it in india but left behind a pakistan usg , then, in germany (standing), korea (standing), vietnam (oops), taiwan (standing), etc [12:26]
BingoBoingo: NO, pretty sure there's a trilema [12:26]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo a rly ? [12:26]
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-start-your-own-country-adnotated/ [12:27]
asciilifeform: dun seem like this one's in there [12:27]
* BingoBoingo reading [12:28]
mircea_popescu: i mean... it's a great read and all, but doesn't happen to be what i had in mind. pretty sure the logline was it. [12:28]
* BingoBoingo not seeing that in their either [12:30]
asciilifeform: for completeness, oughta include the laughably failed attempts -- the london-based 'alt-gov'-s of poland, ukrs, etc [12:36]
mircea_popescu: lotta failed attempts, and the success of the successes extremely fucking dubious. [12:48]
mircea_popescu: they're the sorta "fix that works while not needed" nonsense "elected representative governments" tend to come up with [12:48]
mircea_popescu: or, in the immortal words of a ~very typical~ (if coincidentally naive enough orc as to be plain about it), http://trilema.com/2014/the-disadvantages-of-living-among-idiots/#selection-59.2-59.124 [12:49]
mircea_popescu: that's what THEY ALL SAY. "i deeply regret nothing else and nothing besides having had the misfortune of being in the white house when our taiwan turned out to be a paper wrap on burning fire and no more -- all the OTHERS had it much better, because then the paper wrap LOOKED solid enough" [12:50]
asciilifeform: these are the folx for whom e.g. tyre fire of libya is a 'success' ( ghaddafi dead? check. no unified arabistan ? check. etc ) [12:53]
mircea_popescu: keks. [12:56]
mircea_popescu: libya is why they lost syria. [12:56]
mircea_popescu: russkis bothered with it ~specifically~ to exploit usg's shocking cuntitude as a superlative of weakness and for no other imaginable reason. [12:57]
BingoBoingo: The only people for whom libya was a success are the cucks who enjoy Germany getting "BlaKKKED (TM)(R)" [15:19]
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/guiado-rules-out-diplomacy-and-italy-breaks-with-eu-on-venezuela-we-absolutely-oppose-the-fact-that-a-country-or-a-group-of-third-countries-can-determine-internal-policies-of-another-country/ << Qntra -- Guiad Rules Out Diplomacy And Italy Breaks With EU On Venezuela "We Absolutely Oppose The Fact That A Country Or A group Of Third Countries Can Determine Internal Policies Of Another Country" [15:19]
BingoBoingo: In other news the psyops are really cranking up in Vzla. 10+ hours sin luz in the barrios where the generals and colonels live daily since wednesday. Someone wants to bore these folks into taking to the streets [19:57]
asciilifeform: not good prognosis , if fuhrer can't keep generals plugged in [20:29]
asciilifeform: ( or for that matter, if he dun shoot 1 pantsuit per hour of outage, imho ) [20:29]
BingoBoingo: Well, buy moar Cisco y Seimens [20:35]
asciilifeform: an' runmoarwinblowz aha [20:35]
BingoBoingo: Seriously one big Huawei advert this [20:37]
asciilifeform: difficult to picture a better advert for sane systems than stuxnet et al. but somehow didn't sink into thick orc heads. [20:37]
asciilifeform: !#s tired of living [20:39]
a111: 16 results for "tired of living", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tired%20of%20living [20:39]
BingoBoingo: Niggertopia [20:39]
asciilifeform: ^ see also [20:39]
BingoBoingo: If Maduro falls I suspect it will be for a falta of GPGgrams offering to trade rum for hanbot hours of decisionmaking, but the list of countries that do shit still weight heavily towards Maduro. [20:42]
asciilifeform: if the 'countries that do shit' can't be arsed to keep his lights on... [20:42]
BingoBoingo: NATO breaking, EU breaking, and nothing clearly resembling a bomb has dropped [20:42]
mircea_popescu: kinda the sad conclusion from prior, also : you need pantsuit to decapitate orc heads, because otherwise orc heads "soberania" all over themselves and you get argentina, qatar etc. [20:43]
BingoBoingo: Russia/Turkey/China/...(10+spaces)/Italy [20:43]
BingoBoingo: There's noise over whether or not UAE is buying Vzla gold for good stuff in spite of being USA#1!!!, but indeterminate [20:45]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc mircea_popescu had this essay where 'why wouldja give money to a bear ? bear can't spend money, may as well give it straight to hunter' [20:45]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No bear in this contest. We've got mongoloids choosing to be retarded and mongoloids born that way trying to drool it out in the ring [20:47]
mircea_popescu: speaking of money, spent all day on huge harem shopping trip. i am now in possession of picture including bimbo on 8 inch platforms holding the ~$2.70 receipt for them. [20:47]
mircea_popescu: WHY GIVE MONEY TO ANYONE, i say. [20:47]
asciilifeform: 'i didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks!'(tm)(r) [20:47]
* BingoBoingo has a couple of very beefy dragonflies on the balcony tonight [20:48]
mircea_popescu: buy the girls their weight in shit, spend on it less than what they could make on street corner in an hour. only recipe for happiness there is! [20:54]
* asciilifeform in process of buying surplus industrial xraytron, built for scanning corpses of laboratory animals, 70kg 'bank safe' with shields etc [20:56]
asciilifeform: dial-a-keV. [20:56]
asciilifeform: i suppose will also work a++ for asciilifeform's peine forte et dure!11 [20:57]
BingoBoingo: Girls can still make on the street corner in Costa Rica? [20:57]
BingoBoingo: Here the girls have to go to a parada de omníbus and wait for someone who isn't too retarded to know why they aren't taking a bus. [20:58]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking also, when we bake batch of 'FG 2' or etc., can include radiographs of virginal pcb for extra fee [20:58]
asciilifeform: digitized/signed, naturally [20:59]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sure, lotta ustards touristing. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a great idea, actually. [21:03]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've had this notion in the pipeline for ages. [21:03]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, Brasiltards are the target market, but naturally they can't hook the brasil tards because Protuguese trips the faggot signal in their ears [21:03]
BingoBoingo: There are few UStards in Uruguay [21:04]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only reason i did not go with it prior, is that overestimated the expense [21:04]
BingoBoingo: A few old "retire for less" folks may be in Piriapolis and Atlantida on undefendable homesteads. All the other UStards rent fast with the exception of single digit count of 20-40 year old losers selling pot under market and "teaching" english to get by [21:06]
asciilifeform: all sortsa surplus gear is sold for less 'per kg' than those platform shoes. principal difficulty for asciilifeform specifically, is floor space [21:06]
asciilifeform: it's the only reason i dun have e.g. electron microscope, etc [21:06]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Do you want me to specifically look for floorspace? [21:07]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's no way in heaven or hell that i can get these through orc customs not without uboat [21:07]
BingoBoingo: Yacht club is a thing. [21:08]
asciilifeform: presently we're limited there to uninteresting-looking objects that can be hand-carried. [21:08]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suppose if mircea_popescu ever feels like putting his to use for such thing. [21:08]
BingoBoingo: If there are interesting objects outside of suitcase ability and with sufficently economic need, shit can be tried [21:09]
BingoBoingo: If the payload is worth trying [21:09]
BingoBoingo: Less than a kilometer from El Puertito de Buceo to the datacenter. There are other "clubs" on the city shores. [21:11]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu had essay the other day where 'typesetter works for the bigger bux, elsewhere.' the folx with uboat capability, are moving 'white gold', not microscopes. [21:11]
BingoBoingo: In one direction [21:12]
asciilifeform: well, speaking generally, 'microscopes' move ~from~ the collapsing industrial reich that they fall out of. [21:12]
BingoBoingo: There is more surplus cocaine paste here than the number of pichis can justify. The Powder has to be headed somewhere. [21:13]
asciilifeform: sorta reverse of 'paste'. [21:13]
BingoBoingo: Paste only happens here because Vasquez wants to be BFFs with Morales [21:13]
BingoBoingo: There's an implied circuit of transit where at least one leg is underweight [21:14]
asciilifeform: it's funny, actually, the queue to come ~out~ of usa is 10 minutes long, and they 'search' for pocket knives and other ceremonials. queue to come ~in~ is 3hrs and they search arse, with dogs. [21:14]
asciilifeform: assumption is 'terrorists want to move objects FROM orcistan TO reich' [21:14]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: even supposing i had a teleporter -- dun seem like BingoBoingostan is in fact the mythical mecca of cheap floor space envisioned to exist somewhere [21:16]
BingoBoingo: In other news, the apparently perfect mellow high yeild short time to flower marijuana genetics have been identified. None of the orcs want to bother planting it. It could unleash hell in the US and do ~nothing here [21:16]
BingoBoingo: BingoBoingistan has a lack of floorspace, but any floorspace here guarentees ferrocement [21:17]
BingoBoingo: The main thoroughfare 18 de Julio is dominated by old fucks running single retail stores spending the rest of their space on warehouse surrounding their showroom. [21:18]
BingoBoingo: Bidding competition is the 11-12 story residential overbuilders [21:19]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you think about it, it's actually quite logical that floorspace in all places asciilifeform can easily get to , costs approx. same. [21:19]
asciilifeform: !#s glued coin [21:19]
a111: 4 results for "glued coin", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=glued%20coin [21:19]
asciilifeform: ^ see also. [21:19]
BingoBoingo: No, it is quite cheaper in East StL [21:19]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not after you acct. for the cost of defense. [21:20]
asciilifeform: see also the bmore thread. [21:20]
BingoBoingo: What materials do you want to defend your microscope in James Lafond presents Baltimore? [21:22]
asciilifeform: it aint so much about materiel, or asciilifeform would already have built base there. [21:23]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu could probably run one there for <dollar/day, if he felt like. [21:23]
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform couldn't for 1000. [21:24]
BingoBoingo: How many pounds of gas, how many watts of fence, how many ounces of buckshot per meter of hallway... [21:25]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: again, prolly not 'pounds of shot' but '# of gurlz sleeping in shifts' [21:25]
BingoBoingo: Girls sleeping in shifts is mostly a food cost [21:26]
asciilifeform: lol same way red army is 'food cost' [21:26]
BingoBoingo: No, because red army doesn't love you [21:26]
asciilifeform: sure does if yer The generalissimus, lol [21:27]
asciilifeform: if one could terraform planets with mere moneys, not only bmore but buenos aires , patagonia, etc. would be inhabited. [21:28]
asciilifeform: there's no shortage of folx with sacks of money walking about. [21:28]
BingoBoingo: The problem is una falta de folx [21:29]
asciilifeform: it dun buy that much, see. ( see also the article with the bear. ) [21:29]
BingoBoingo: Today I acquired a cultural artifact known locally as a tenedor de ropa. [21:30]
BingoBoingo: It fits exactly the space my AC compressor blows [21:30]
asciilifeform: garderobe ? [21:30]
BingoBoingo: I acquired it after two months of not needed the local laverdero located on this same block [21:31]
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt, in plague-years europistan, garderobe often was combined with shitter, idea was that the miasma would kill fleas somehow ) [21:31]
BingoBoingo: With powdered determent sold by the kilogram and Latina sleeping here 3 nights a week (not taking her out of secular employment) I have a recipe for next day clean laundry. [21:33]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how does that work ? thing is hermetically sealed and you fill it with hose from the wash ?? [21:33]
BingoBoingo: At a cost of time, either hers or mine depending on the day of the week [21:33]
asciilifeform: sovok-style washing machine ? [21:34]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The clothes get washed in buckets, lovingly. I have the whitest socks in the barrio. [21:34]
* asciilifeform misread as 'powdered deterrent' lol [21:34]
BingoBoingo: The AC compressor now does double duty drying the clothes [21:36]
asciilifeform: wb mats [21:36]
BingoBoingo: wb indeed mats [21:36]
* BingoBoingo may have become a petty tyrant [21:36]
mats: hello friends [21:36]
asciilifeform: whatcha up to these days, mats ? [21:37]
* BingoBoingo 99.9876 percent sure no bitch from old county would convert to this less time consuming system without bloody welts [21:38]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's moar to life than automatic wash. consider : [21:40]
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet , ~erry day at breakfast : 'when can i eat apple that tastes like apple again' [21:40]
asciilifeform: ( ate a 'jonathan' in timis, see, 1nce ) [21:41]
BingoBoingo: OH, there's the food! During her "weekend" which as a nurse is the mundane middle of the week I send her with a saddam worth array of chemical weapons and half the pesos I would carry on the same adventure during the actual weekend. Then I eat well. [21:42]
asciilifeform: oh hey betcha nurse has access to xraytron. [21:43]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, here that requires dentist in Ukrvzla [21:43]
asciilifeform: you gotta get that pet dentist back [21:44]
asciilifeform: was a+++ chix. [21:44]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Working with her girlfriend on that, but... Lesbians [21:44]
asciilifeform: see mircea_popescu re lesbians. [21:44]
BingoBoingo: That works in dicking range [21:45]
asciilifeform: ( he had a piece re stripping their electron shell so they react ) [21:45]
asciilifeform: y'know, like boron trifluoride [21:45]
mats: asciilifeform: learning to r/w chinese, struggling through 'microcorruption', backlog of books, ie https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/books/the-quest-by-daniel-yergin-review.html and http://www.cindyvallar.com/Hanna.html [21:45]
BingoBoingo: Not when then have mega dog protected orchard and inexplicably immobile abuelos [21:45]
asciilifeform: mats: funnily enuff asciilifeform also (slowly) learning cn. [21:46]
mats: i can't for the life of me nail down tones, might have to hire a coach to help me with pinyin [21:47]
asciilifeform: mats: i'm where can mostly demodulate, but haven't even attempted to modulate. [21:47]
BingoBoingo: Always hire a live coach. even in Spanish, "todo bien" takes months of live practice to master the intonation. [21:48]
asciilifeform: and pinyin is possibly built as a joke on the 'white devil', the encoding has ~0 relation much of the time to the actual sound [21:48]
mats: are you listening to audio at all? pimsleur's mandarin series are pretty good [21:48]
asciilifeform: mats: radio, for nao [21:48]
asciilifeform: hm i recall BingoBoingo mentioned 'pimsleur', what was it [21:49]
asciilifeform: i'ma guess series of tapes ? [21:50]
asciilifeform: i did similar thing for engl as a boy, it was terrible prep, had to unlearn later [21:50]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pimsleur Spanish was exactly wrong for Uruguay, but exactly right for Vzla [21:50]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they taught me 'bbc', see [21:51]
mats: yes, an english sentence is followed by the transliteration [21:51]
asciilifeform: neato. ( supposing the transl. is correct... ) [21:51]
* asciilifeform bbl, maffs [21:53]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This week after holding the Rockchip shelf holding went well, I am offering the Peruana the gift of English. She's ear training now on old looney tunes and winnie the jaundiced pooh [21:54]
BingoBoingo: Nothing beats the combination of private lessons for cultural context and the structured "don't miss anything" cause [22:32]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and pinyin is possibly built as a joke on the 'white devil', the encoding has ~0 relation much of the time to the actual sound << FWIW Spanish doesn't work in Chile [22:37]
mats: i recently bought a kobo aura h2o (1st ed) eink reader, which is 6.8in, water resistant, reads pdfs and most formats unlike the kindle (which i think requires mobi), and most importantly takes a microsd card. filled it with the books, papers, logs i've carefully saved over last 10y, still have tons of space left on a 64gb card [22:38]
mats: only thing left for me to do is export my 'pocket' bookmark collection into text format (kobi has some support for pocket, but its not very good), which i haven't figured out how to do yet [22:40]
BingoBoingo: Sounds about right [22:44]
mats: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HucxZGO8/pk.png [22:46]
mats: thats something pocket does ( stripped down http://www.thetower.org/article/how-iraq-became-a-wholly-owned-subsidiary-of-the-islamic-republic-of-iran/ ) , but they implemented oauth at some point and i'm not sure how to consume the output, or if i really wanna do that sans jpgs/pngs etc [22:48]
BingoBoingo: Honestly at this point I care more about how to get the stoner republic of paraguay to stop dumping phosphorus on my beaches [22:49]
mats: i wonder if lobbes has a portal where i can feed, say, 2k urls for archival? [22:49]
BingoBoingo: ^ lobbes can you do that? [22:49]
BingoBoingo: Done [22:49]
mats: how does spanish not work in chile? or is that just your way of saying linguistic drift [22:53]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891425 << yeah, and amusingly the reason comes right around to pizarro customer acquisition files. [22:53]
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu could probably run one there for <dollar/day, if he felt like. [22:53]
BingoBoingo: mats: All of the letters of the alphabet are different and words lose their last syllable. Very useful when playing bitches. [22:54]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-02#1891454 << but the bloody welts are half the fun. [22:54]
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:38 BingoBoingo 99.9876 percent sure no bitch from old county would convert to this less time consuming system without bloody welts [22:54]
BingoBoingo: Back in 2015 all the way to 2017 pantsuit had opportunities to pacify me when I sobered up. They could have probably offered me a smidge more to keep tossing bags of mulch and instead declared themselves broke. I would have also remained ignorant to the better, latin life. [22:55]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The welts are unavoidale [22:55]
BingoBoingo: unavoidable [22:55]
BingoBoingo: the question is how many am I going to lick with salted tongue [22:56]
BingoBoingo: bandwidth is a thing [22:56]
BingoBoingo: Just now I hit 73.9 kg on the scale [22:57]
BingoBoingo: Only so much water to retain [22:57]
BingoBoingo: My calves are just going to get meatier and meatier [23:20]
BingoBoingo: And a proportional number of bicicletists trying to promote wheeled domination of the rambla will face "kinetics disposes" [23:31]
mats: in stale news, 'More than 1 million student loan borrowers each year go into default. Outstanding education debt in the U.S. has tripled over the last decade and now exceeds $1.5 trillion, posing a greater burden to Americans than auto or credit card debt ... By 2023, nearly 40 percent of borrowers are expected to default' https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/twenty-two-percent-of-student-loan-borrowers-fall-into-default.html [23:48]
mats: also, 'The Supreme Court’s decision in Herring v. [U.S.] authorizes police to defeat the Fourth Amendment’s protections through a process we call evidence laundering [...] when one police officer makes a constitutional mistake when gathering evidence and then passes that evidence along to a second officer, who develops it further and then delivers it to prosecutor' https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2558737 [23:50]
mats: as for news-in-tech, https://www.anandtech.com/show/13924/intel-to-discontinue-itanium-9700-kittson-processor-the-last-itaniums [23:51]
* BingoBoingo now has next blog topic, death of superheroes [23:58]
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