Forum logs for 01 Feb 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
phf: trying to interact with technology from middle of nowhere makes me question why i even do it to begin with. "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 90" [03:17]
ben_vulpes: << stuff of nightmares [03:54]
ben_vulpes: > Fog gem may have cleaned out older backups. [03:55]
ben_vulpes: run moar ror [03:55]
jurov: deedbot: [07:35]
jurov: !!deed [07:36]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [07:36]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1539...7087 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( RU) [08:49]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1516...4497 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( RU) [08:49]
mircea_popescu: phf you managed to go back to the 80s ? [09:40]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no that's ~exactly~ what they both earned and deserve. i wasn't kidding re memory holing the other day, the plan literally is for EVERYTHING empire made to get permanently lost. from wikipedia on. [09:41]
mircea_popescu: !~google "ma.gnolia" [09:42]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Ma . gnolia - Wikipedia: <> Jak&Jil - La moda sta in tutto: <> Magnolia Market: Chip & Joanna Gaines | HGTV Fixer Upper: <> [09:42]
mircea_popescu: heh mkay. [09:42]
asciilifeform: speaking of pediwikia, [09:44]
asciilifeform: ^ 'drowning in spam' ohnoez! [09:45]
shinohai: No one could have predicted. [09:45]
mircea_popescu: yeah and there totally wasn't like, an article describing the policy years ago either. [09:46]
asciilifeform: the chlorophos given in mircea_popescu's 'bulldoze reddit' piece works equally well on all wotless insecta [09:47]
* mircea_popescu kinda loves the mutation of the advertising copy into a fake problems narrative, also. "oh there are problems but the valiant soviets!" [09:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah that's kinda teh idea. [09:48]
mircea_popescu: and in latest wtf, [09:52]
mircea_popescu: and, amusingly enough, wikipedia thinks alla kushnir is a mediocre russian-jewish chess player from before the war. [10:00]
mircea_popescu: (she's a very popular ukr bellydancer) [10:04]
shinohai: I'm trying to talk indiancandy into doing bellydancing, for diversity. [10:05]
mircea_popescu: talk therapy has its limits. from experience girl was either into bellydancing when she was 9, or else she either bellydances or gets the hose again. [10:06]
mircea_popescu: there's no talking girl into it. [10:06]
shinohai: It's hard to find interesting ideas for camgirl that refuses to use a dildo or other penetrative props [10:07]
mircea_popescu: well, you're also new at this huh. [10:08]
shinohai: Well kinda, but usually it's simple "Wanna write numbers on tits for Trilema?" or something similar and I get mah 10% and move on lol [10:17]
mircea_popescu: :p [10:18]
mircea_popescu: ownership of the means of production is hard work. [10:18]
shinohai: Indeed. [10:18]
mircea_popescu: as teh linked "song" sez, "the father of many cunts worth money doesn't sleep" [10:18]
asciilifeform: such east! [10:19]
mircea_popescu: o ? [10:19]
asciilifeform: re link. [10:20]
mircea_popescu: heh. la florida, and other eastern places. [10:21]
asciilifeform: sooo in other olds: x86 sets overflow flag during shifts (SHL/SHR) only if overflow on ~single~ bit shift. [10:37]
asciilifeform: (x86 has a barrel shifter) [10:37]
asciilifeform: because, apparently, designer was dropped as a baby. [10:37]
mircea_popescu: wait what ?! [10:38]
mircea_popescu: shl 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 1 overflows but 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 4 does not ? [10:39]
asciilifeform: correct. [10:39]
asciilifeform: well it overflows, no shit, but flag never set [10:39]
mircea_popescu: dude whaty [10:39]
asciilifeform: aha! [10:39]
mircea_popescu: compiler must make all shift instructions shift by 1 then./ [10:39]
mircea_popescu: you want shl 65535 > results in 65536 shl 1 [10:40]
asciilifeform: say hello to snail speed [10:40]
mircea_popescu: hey. [10:40]
asciilifeform: and incidentally sanity checks that introduce branches, ANNIHILATE the pipeline [10:40]
asciilifeform: (and on x86 that's ~all of them) [10:40]
* asciilifeform brb, teatime [10:43]
shinohai: Hilarious gitlab lulz: [10:47]
mircea_popescu: heh. [10:49]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology. [10:49]
mircea_popescu: !!up aseriousgogetta [11:23]
deedbot: aseriousgogetta voiced for 30 minutes. [11:23]
aseriousgogetta: ty [11:24]
mircea_popescu: sure. [11:25]
mircea_popescu: so who might you be ? [11:25]
aseriousgogetta: a budding developer/student of life. [11:25]
aseriousgogetta: working my ass off to remember more then i forget. ) [11:25]
aseriousgogetta: u? [11:26]
aseriousgogetta: [11:28]
mircea_popescu: i c. [11:31]
BingoBoingo: aseriousgogetta: Who is your daddy and what does he do? [11:39]
aseriousgogetta: he is a loving alcoholic & he works sun-up to sun-down doing all he can. i love my dad. [11:40]
BingoBoingo: Awe, an actual answer! [11:41]
shinohai: Here in #trilema we have help for alkys [11:41]
shinohai: !~step1 [11:42]
jhvh1: 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable. [11:42]
aseriousgogetta: indeed. [11:43]
trinque: aseriousgogetta: how did you find your way in? [11:44]
asciilifeform: << ftr none of the currently sold chips are in any important respect different from x86 re arithmetic. [11:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 15:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: dude that shift implementation is broken [11:46]
aseriousgogetta: Application Specific, so let's flash these ROM's to mine moar! [11:47]
mircea_popescu: !!down aseriousgogetta [11:47]
deedbot: << Trilema - An Alan Smithee Film : Burn Hollywood Burn [11:51]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks from that arm, for example, behaves exactly like x86. [11:51]
asciilifeform: the funniest bit is that 32-bit (1980s) sparc HAD trap-on-overflow instructions, and DITCHED them when upgraded to 64bit ! [11:52]
mircea_popescu: no bad idea ever died on its own [11:52]
asciilifeform: to be moar like x86 ! [11:52]
deedbot: << Qntra - US University Endowments Net Loss In 2016 [12:37]
ben_vulpes: << lynch mob left in delicto flagrante [13:14]
asciilifeform: in other lulz : [13:22]
asciilifeform: 'ɢ' [13:23]
ben_vulpes: pretty cute [13:24]
trinque: per the rules of disorganized angry mob, trump guy lost [13:27]
BingoBoingo: Moar unicode pls! [13:27]
trinque: sign-waving right is lamest right [13:27]
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, >> '"Leakedsource is down forever and won't be coming back," a person using the handle LTD wrote Thursday in an online forum. "Owner raided early this morning. Wasn't arrested, but all [solid state drives] got taken, and Leakedsource servers got subpoenaed and placed under federal investigation. If somehow he recovers from this and launches LS again, [13:28]
asciilifeform: then I'll be wrong. But I am not wrong."' [13:28]
asciilifeform: ^ www that had the dumps from tardstalk, 'adultfriendfinder', buncha others [13:29]
asciilifeform: !!up fromdeedbot [14:27]
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes. [14:27]
trinque: !!up fromdeedbot [14:29]
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes. [14:29]
trinque: fromdeedbot: hi, who are you? [14:30]
thestringpuller: didn't realize had a webchat link... [14:30]
trinque: in fact it does. [14:30]
fromdeedbot: just a fellow netizen poking around :) [14:34]
fromdeedbot: trinque: i was actually looking around online to see what you were up to these days. its been a while [14:40]
trinque: oh has it? [14:44]
trinque: how would I know [14:44]
fromdeedbot: haha yea i'd say probably 11 years [14:45]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo [14:48]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [14:48]
trinque: fromdeedbot: well, if you want to let me know who, I might rate you. otherwise enjoy the logs. [14:51]
fromdeedbot: trinque: word, does the name plauche ring any bells? [14:55]
trinque: heh, howdy, long time indeed. [14:57]
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo << qntra? [15:00]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [15:00]
thestringpuller: training exercise usually means top secret mission [15:09]
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: and 'new mexico' means: antarctica ..? [15:09]
thestringpuller: yes. just like pilot killed during cuban missile crisis died in "training accident" :P [15:10]
shinohai: goddamn asciilifeform ... just one day after that heli crash @ Ft. Campbell [15:12]
shinohai: In Sports news: [15:25]
mircea_popescu: !$ssh [15:35]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 [15:35]
Framedragger: guess that at this point it'd be great if it gave *more* info, huh. (server hello from :80 / :443, etc.) if anyone wants to work on latter while i'm busy with unrelated things, could provide current code / info on setup [15:39]
mircea_popescu: the tmsr dns is getting ever meatier. [15:39]
Framedragger: ( s/could provide/i could provide/ , i meant) [15:39]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger prolly should run that thing yearly too. [15:41]
shinohai: !~display [15:41]
jhvh1: shinohai: {'city': 'Denton', 'region_name': 'TX', 'area_code': 940, 'longitude': -97.1264, 'country_code3': 'USA', 'latitude': 33.183400000000006, 'postal_code': '76205', 'dma_code': 623, 'country_code': 'US', 'country_name': 'United States'} [15:41]
mircea_popescu: dunno if you care enough / have the patience. [15:41]
mircea_popescu: !~echo *thumbsup* shinohai [15:41]
jhvh1: *thumbsup* shinohai [15:41]
shinohai: ^.^ [15:41]
Framedragger: my initial optimistic idea was to s/yearly/monthly/ or even weekly :) (certainly possible, and automatable.) will have to wait. but at least yearly -- certainly (not too much effort for latter, i think) [15:42]
mircea_popescu: which !? is nuke, i forget ? [15:42]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yearly is plenty imo. [15:42]
ben_vulpes: !~echo !~echo [15:43]
jhvh1: !~echo [15:43]
ben_vulpes: !~echo !~echo !~echo [15:43]
jhvh1: !~echo !~echo [15:43]
mircea_popescu: heh [15:43]
ben_vulpes: !~echo !$ssh [15:44]
jhvh1: !$ssh [15:44]
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pretty neat [15:44]
ben_vulpes: !$ssh [15:45]
Framedragger: !~echo !$ssh [15:45]
jhvh1: !$ssh [15:45]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 [15:45]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 [15:45]
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, << for expert entomologists only. (via jurov) [15:45]
Framedragger: ^ oh, that's a bug, should only be one of those. [15:45]
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: aye [15:45]
mircea_popescu: what's the bug ? [15:46]
ben_vulpes: contains rather than starts with [15:47]
mircea_popescu: hurr durr !$ssh [15:48]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 [15:48]
mircea_popescu: lmao noo. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: noob* [15:48]
* mircea_popescu gets to "as i got in my lyft back home", entirely loses interest. [15:49]
deedbot: << Trilema - Feeeelings... tis only feeeee-eeelings! [15:50]
mircea_popescu: whatever the fuck "kieryn fartwater" has to say doesn't really belong written [15:50]
ben_vulpes: that poll booth operators have the money for cabs astonishes me [15:50]
mircea_popescu: lyft is a cab in the sense urban slum dwellings are homes. [15:50]
ben_vulpes: hey i saw a mercedes with an uber and lyft sticker yesterday [15:51]
ben_vulpes: heinous abuse of capital equipment, but it beats a prius [15:51]
ben_vulpes: or whatever put-puts they use in bsas [15:51]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and i saw a rich "sv culture" dork and a talented madonna. [15:51]
mircea_popescu: idem heinous abuse of capital equipment but it's how socialism attempts to sell its hamburgers [15:52]
ben_vulpes: hard to even get excited about even a brand new mercedes [15:53]
ben_vulpes: "oh cool honda civics now come with turbos standard" [15:53]
mircea_popescu: bout as exciting as "latest version" software. [15:53]
ben_vulpes: "i guess that's cool if you can stomach 'new cars'" [15:53]
ben_vulpes: you take that back a turbocharger is not a rev bump [15:53]
Framedragger: (re. "contains", since it's a.. nuanced bot, it was actually meant to work correctly, i.e. did not confuse "contains" with "starts with", so.. need to look at it to understand wtf.) [15:54]
ben_vulpes: forced induction is a BLESSING [15:54]
trinque: aha, I saw a bentley the other day that had only two seats [15:54]
trinque: apparently it is only for your driver [15:54]
mircea_popescu: let us ! add $ insult to inju ry [15:54]
Framedragger: phew [15:54]
mircea_popescu: trinque some people use the hos as a drivers. [15:55]
ben_vulpes: nuanced == "spilling out of head through ears"? [15:55]
mircea_popescu: "this is a nuanced patient" "yes but why nuances of dark purple". [15:55]
mircea_popescu: "hypoxia" [15:56]
Framedragger: a b !$ ssh c d [16:17]
Framedragger: !$ ssh c d [16:17]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 [16:17]
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7 [16:17]
Framedragger: "regexp, not even once!" [16:17]
mircea_popescu: loller [16:18]
mircea_popescu: are you doing basic science on your software Framedragger ? [16:18]
Framedragger: yes, *some*. but not enough automation, apparently and not enough falsification in this case, as is very much apparent :/ should have been an obvious catch by either automated test or at least manual test. was (very shamefully) a wee bit too lazy with this last command. [16:20]
mircea_popescu: !!up fromsiphnos [16:20]
deedbot: fromsiphnos voiced for 30 minutes. [16:20]
Framedragger: ohai fromsiphnos, what brings you here? [16:21]
Framedragger: did you stumble here through ? [16:21]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: oh, are you the austrian dude who emailed once? (given that you connected from vienna just now) :) [16:22]
mircea_popescu: isn't that a little too aggressive Framedragger ? [16:23]
fromsiphnos: hi [16:24]
fromsiphnos: no [16:24]
fromsiphnos: well , i was curious as to what kind of infos are there on the above site you mentionated [16:24]
fromsiphnos: Salut Mircea :) [16:26]
mircea_popescu: hallo [16:27]
mircea_popescu: who might you be then ? [16:27]
Framedragger: i suppose it's not documented anywhere properly as of yet, hm! fromsiphnos, are you by chance familiar with the `ssh-keyscan` tool (bundled in by default in the openssh package). it's basically output from that tool, plus a list of all IP addresses which can be connected to on port 22. [16:28]
Framedragger: (the latter are in two files: and ) [16:29]
fromsiphnos: i am familiar yes ! but i was curious to find out, how did you managed to scan around 15 mil + ip's to find their banners and their keys [16:29]
Framedragger: the former (ssh-keyscan output) is basically, ssh-rsa public keys, plus ssh server banners (ssh hello's). [16:29]
fromsiphnos: 15 mil + ip's which are up actually ! [16:29]
fromsiphnos: i say nice job :) [16:30]
Framedragger: good question, and yet another shameful instance of my backlog (in an ideal world, you would find an article in regards to that on the most esteemed news source, ) [16:30]
fromsiphnos: are you saying you actually can access those ip's ? [16:31]
fromsiphnos: on ssh ? [16:32]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you gotta start wiping that backlog yo. [16:33]
Framedragger: (the siphnos datadrop ( gives the banners ("banners" folder) and keys (in various formats), including raw ssh-keyscan output (*_scan.tar.bz2), as e,N,IP CSVs (e-N-IP*), a.k.a. tmsr format, and converted openpgp (rfc4880) format.) [16:33]
fromsiphnos: i think i agree with mircea_popescu here ! [16:34]
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: true that, no shit :( (funny thing, i ended up with two $jobs and $uni to finish. as i said before, looking forward to summer, which will be *much* easier, with $things finished.) [16:34]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: what do you mean by access? connect to, and get a login challenge from server? yes. access as in "hack da system" login access? no - this is *server* ssh key, not client [16:35]
mircea_popescu: yeh. [16:36]
Framedragger: but good news, as asciilifeform et al. have pointed out before, a lot of client keys get generated on ssh servers. if random number generation or other things are broken on the latter, you can *derive* the (set of) the former, in some cases :) [16:36]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: glory awaits! [16:36]
Framedragger: i need to learn to use log-search quickly like you guyz [16:36]
fromsiphnos: glory awaits ! nice one [16:36]
fromsiphnos: with all the infos you got there .. [16:36]
Framedragger: etc [16:36]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 16:02 Framedragger: in fact.. due to correctly pointing out that "This flaw is ugly because even systems that do not use the Debian software need to be audited in case any key is being used that was created on a Debian system.", someone should attempt botnet-brute-login to all 13M+ (i forget lol) ssh hosts with rng-fucked client keys. [16:36]
mircea_popescu: we use interns. [16:36]
fromsiphnos: well , that might get very interested ! [16:37]
fromsiphnos: botnet-brute-login like random user/pass ? worst brute force ever .. [16:38]
fromsiphnos: yet, it seems it's the "only one out there" [16:38]
Framedragger: so basically that's the kind of info available. more later, hopefully. there have been some scans of other ports on the ssh-broken (phucted, as in ) boxes, etc. but no central place for those scans. [16:39]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no, not user/pass, though one could try a bit of that, too, but as in, generate small set of "debianized" ssh client keys, and try all of'em. much smaller set. see logs above [16:39]
Framedragger: !#s debianized [16:40]
a111: 17 results for "debianized", [16:40]
fromsiphnos: i am not familiar with .. "try all of 'em" ! [16:43]
fromsiphnos: i ... don't know how [16:43]
Framedragger: (i must point out that these sorts of scans are nothing unique at all. offers data, for example, but i can't be arsed to make an account and check. mebbe sometime.) [16:44]
Framedragger: (what is nice is not bullshitting around and just providing raw data (at least as one of the options)). [16:44]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: you'll need to learn things, this is not a (completely) trivial hacker-kiddo thing, in the sense of finding a list of "hackable" IPs on a forum and then trying user/pass pairs. :) you'd need to be understand how public key based authentication works, and what the distinction between a server ssh key and a client ssh key is. [16:47]
Framedragger: to be able to understand* [16:47]
shinohai: Basic algebra helps as well. [16:47]
mircea_popescu: and yet again passing silently over noob's failure to respond to "who are you" turns out to have been a stupid move. [16:48]
fromsiphnos: :) [16:48]
* shinohai pokes BingoBoingo awake to ask these questions. [16:48]
fromsiphnos: i am just "playing" here .. [16:48]
fromsiphnos: so ! [16:49]
fromsiphnos: are you guys the good guys ? or bad guys ? [16:49]
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no. if you don't answer that question, we are left to infer things on our own when you ask non-trivial questions, and people are busy. [16:49]
Framedragger: (things such as level of knowledge, or who is your daddy.) [16:49]
fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask ! [16:50]
trinque: "hello fellow h@X0rZ, got any leet warez today?" [16:50]
shinohai: kek [16:50]
mircea_popescu: !!down aww too latye [16:51]
deedbot: hands you a broomstick. [16:51]
mircea_popescu: i swear deedbot is sentient. [16:51]
shinohai: !!rate Framedragger 1 #trilema, phuctor, scriba [16:52]
deedbot: Get your OTP: [16:52]
shinohai: !!v 24A7507FADD549CDA356597F188F20AF23946E31BD72C4EB927EF0AC40880E55 [16:53]
deedbot: shinohai rated Framedragger 1 << #trilema, phuctor, scriba [16:53]
shinohai: Sorry Framedragger shoulda done that sooner [16:53]
* Framedragger will meditate on some more, then act accordingly :) [16:58]
mircea_popescu: you just get excited :) [16:59]
Framedragger: that is in fact a weakness of mine... [17:00]
mircea_popescu: only weakness if badly managed. [17:00]
mircea_popescu: << prety lulzy how the delusion of "independence" and "in control of self and own destiny" works in retards, too. this schmuck actually imagines himself in a position to... recognize, by himself, for himself, when he didn't understand something. [17:13]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 21:50 fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask ! [17:13]
mircea_popescu: the fact that he failed to understand something (and failed SILENTLY!11) a mere five minutes prior gives him no pause, much like any other socialist retard, "trust me, i'm a good guy" with blood and guts all over. [17:14]
mircea_popescu: "i wouldn't steal, honest!" "why are you wearing 48 wrist watches on your arms ?" "oh... that's the soviet fashion. they're... um... gifts!" [17:14]
shinohai: In Soviet Russia, watches wear YOU [17:15]
ben_vulpes: oh look at that, fed funds rate holds [17:23]
mircea_popescu: lel [17:23]
mircea_popescu: if you win that bet ima cane some investment bankers. [17:23]
ben_vulpes: if i win that bet... [17:24]
ben_vulpes: tcha, not even worth planning for. [17:24]
mircea_popescu: was for thje whole year no ? [17:24]
mircea_popescu: lel [17:24]
mircea_popescu: o right you got odds huh [17:24]
ben_vulpes: this was for entire first term [17:25]
mircea_popescu: o brother. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: if you win that bet i'll seriously start consulting you for financial advice. [17:26]
mod6: same [17:26]
mircea_popescu: you'll be the lord exchequer [17:26]
ben_vulpes: "come on down to ben_vulpes' discount lolzporium!" [17:29]
mircea_popescu: for srs. [17:35]
shinohai: One single bet could make your lolzporium more profitable than OpenBazaar ben_vulpes [17:37]
shinohai: This model may require further research. [17:38]
ben_vulpes: shinohai: it's simple, you just have to correctly price the paper that everyone else has mispriced. [17:43]
mircea_popescu: but are you the good guys ? [17:44]
shinohai: LOL reddit bans alt-right subreddit: [17:45]
shinohai: dis gonna b good [17:45]
mircea_popescu: didn't they ban pretty much everything non conde nast last year anyway ? [17:45]
shinohai: Was surprised they didn't do it pre election [17:46]
mircea_popescu: foregone conclusion anyway, i see zero possibility of outfits like iab / conde nast / the atlantic / new york times / guardian / etcetera borrowing in the future. they won't be able to finance ops, and so it's myspace time for them all. [17:46]
ben_vulpes: shinohai: they didn't even know it existed pre election [17:46]
mircea_popescu: time to find out exactly how much fat the "incubator that produced a hundred billion in new companies" actually has on the bones. [17:47]
mircea_popescu: but something tells me there's going to be left very little of andressen's "nice going team" after a coupla years' worth of headwind. [17:47]
mircea_popescu: fact. only things you like exist. [17:47]
mircea_popescu: anyway, what was the official front page of the internet, voat something ? [17:48]
ben_vulpes: fact: only things like you exist [17:49]
shinohai: Yup, until Ryan X Charles destroys it all with `Yours` [17:49]
mircea_popescu: lel [17:49]
shinohai: or whatever the fuck he calls it. [17:50]
asciilifeform: holy fuq, reddit ideologically pure at last?! [18:07]
mircea_popescu: lel [18:10]
deedbot: [19:15]
deedbot: << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Be less informed, not more. A guide to circles. [19:36]
asciilifeform: << astonishingly readable literate-programming d00d. and he has a bunch of these. [20:08]
asciilifeform: pure-gnat, no deps, proggies. [20:09]
asciilifeform: linked one is a simple pkzip clone. [20:09]
mircea_popescu: nice. invite him over ? [20:09]
asciilifeform: he's a french d00d, maybe davout oughta handle this one [20:10]
mircea_popescu: why ? [20:10]
asciilifeform: i can, just as easily, but i suspect that i live under a curse, so far nobody i invite, comes [20:11]
mircea_popescu: gotta break it eh [20:11]
asciilifeform: reading that 'pkzip', soul sings : 0 deps! no 'alexandrias', etc [20:13]
asciilifeform: i misspoke, none of it even depends on gnat [20:19]
asciilifeform: pure standard ada. [20:19]
asciilifeform: (equivalent in commonlisp world would be a program that relies ~only~ on the ansi standard) [20:20]
asciilifeform: !!up _lord_of_mars_ [20:27]
deedbot: _lord_of_mars_ voiced for 30 minutes. [20:27]
shinohai: The sig campaign spam camp is that way >>> [20:30]
asciilifeform: ...the what? [20:30]
shinohai: Philippine IP [20:30]
mircea_popescu: !!key _lord_of_mars_ [20:34]
deedbot: [20:34]
shinohai: ah a potential Eulorian [20:35]
mircea_popescu: i think so [20:36]
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: any progress updates on the 0.8.2 / 0.8.6 tests ? curious to see what hacks are needed, if any. [22:00]
asciilifeform: lol, for what do you want the old rusty shovels of heathendom, pete_dushenski [22:01]
pete_dushenski: bv had asked for my archived copies a few weeks back, presumably with the intent to run on spare macware. [22:03]
pete_dushenski: i have no such software in operation atm. though i may fire one up just to see what i can learn about the cuts trb ultimately made. [22:03]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 0.8.something was the last prb i had working [22:04]
asciilifeform: it is not actually very enlightening to a student of trb, because various subsystems were replaced wholesale. [22:04]
asciilifeform: iirc jurov has 0.8.x in his lxr viewer www, so see for yourself. [22:04]
pete_dushenski: i might just get my hands dirty either way. not quite lead into gold but i highly doubt i'll learn ~nothing~ [22:06]
pete_dushenski: 0.8.1 is jurov's lxr version ftr [22:07]
ben_vulpes: progress? updates? tests? [22:48]
ben_vulpes: they're in a vault with other memorabilia, what [22:49]
ben_vulpes: hypercard decks, master of orion, dean martin show archives... [22:50]
deedbot: << Qntra - US Pork Belly Inventory Falls To 50 Year Low [22:51]
ben_vulpes: perhaps some day in peacetime i shall compare the hashes of the bins you sent over to my other archives [22:51]
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the most i can imagine you'll learn about the differences between prb and trb without reading the source is that the latter doesn't have a gui [22:51]
ben_vulpes: i did write an article about the material changes from each version [22:52]
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: [22:53]
* pete_dushenski re-reads! [22:58]
pete_dushenski: useful [23:06]
BingoBoingo: From the Petrus Report: [23:40]
ben_vulpes: in other portlands: [23:59]
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