Forum logs for 01 Aug 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mod6: yeah, the madonna scene seems a bit forced or something. [00:00]
mircea_popescu: and tha tschmuck, what's his name. the fat kid, "son of boss" whatever. he's a terrible actor and drags the whole thing down. [00:00]
mod6: oh Chris.. something or other [00:00]
mircea_popescu: chris penn ya [00:00]
mod6: ya [00:01]
mod6: thats it [00:01]
mircea_popescu: he's for rom coms and "true to life" films about hackers / stock exchange brokers / etc plox. [00:01]
mircea_popescu: but, yes, not terrible. you wanna see terrible, watch poolhall junkies. [00:02]
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/dH0WR/?raw=true [00:02]
mircea_popescu: got chazz palminteri AND christopher walken, and plays like the 3rd placed highschool media lab production for 1986. [00:02]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/qntra-s-qntr-july-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) July 2017 Report [00:02]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [00:02]
mod6: i'll have to checkout poolhall junkies [00:03]
phf: i think i watched it on trilema review, ended up skipping through mostly [00:04]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is that where they get the slightly aged strippers and do a sort of ... light daytime drama + staged "fights" ? << Yeah, then smackdown's the one they painted blue [00:06]
mircea_popescu: oh i wrote it ? [00:06]
mircea_popescu: ah yes, because of the whole stakhanovism bs [00:07]
BingoBoingo: <mod6> but again, i never get to use it. << Get a lumber yard gig [00:08]
mircea_popescu: i expect nothing but spanish spoken huh [00:09]
mod6: yeah, i've got some friends who learned/speak spanish now because of their co-workers. [00:10]
mod6: but it's generally a weird spanglish mix [00:10]
BingoBoingo: Nah, lots of English spoken by hobbyists who "just want to" and maintenance folk. [00:12]
mod6: ah [00:12]
BingoBoingo: Good builders speak spanish [00:12]
BingoBoingo: Most spanish speakers will speak a weird spanglish to Gringos, until you make them stop and speak spanish [00:13]
BingoBoingo: You pick up a lot of vocabulary with "Como se dice" [00:13]
BingoBoingo: And pointing [00:13]
mircea_popescu: "como se dice follar ?" "no se dice. se hace." [00:14]
BingoBoingo: <mod6> oh Chris.. something or other << Chris Farley [00:15]
mod6: na, Chris Penn, MP has it. [00:15]
mod6: I just couldn't remember [00:15]
BingoBoingo: Ah [00:15]
mircea_popescu: his brother was pretty hot in that newman way, cca 1980. [00:15]
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is mega roided up [00:15]
mircea_popescu: myeah [00:16]
mod6: he was married to Madonna for a while 'eh? [00:16]
mod6: shit, 30+ years ago iirc [00:17]
BingoBoingo: In his current straight to netflix gig's he's been Stalone in the 1970's and Arnold in the early 80's type 8-4% bodyfat sorta cut, but that mass dun impress on screen no more [00:17]
mircea_popescu: was he ? [00:17]
BingoBoingo: Now was, is now. [00:17]
mircea_popescu: honestly i thought madonna was married to a horse. [00:18]
mircea_popescu: a female horse. [00:18]
BingoBoingo: Before was a sorta paul newman/tom cruise but with horse face [00:18]
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is low rent action figure with OLD sarah jessica parker horse face [00:18]
phf: i sort of assumed that chris penn and jonah hill is the same person. there was probably one in the 60-70s also [00:18]
mircea_popescu: o yeah, what ever became of that "talented" shithead ? [00:19]
BingoBoingo: !!up fromdeedbot [00:19]
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes. [00:19]
mircea_popescu: somehow these people don't seem to observe the contradiction between "talented" and "15 minutes of fauxfame" [00:19]
BingoBoingo: fromdeedbot: WHo is your daddy, and what does he do? [00:19]
fromdeedbot: It's not a tumor! [00:19]
BingoBoingo: It is a tumor [00:19]
mircea_popescu: wait, wut ? [00:20]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Age testing the n00bs [00:20]
mircea_popescu: phf i had to google this hill dood, and i still don't know who he is. [00:20]
mod6: he was in a movie 'superbad', among some others. [00:21]
mircea_popescu: uncredited in walk hard. mmkay ? [00:21]
mod6: Emma Stone was the main attraction in Superbad. [00:22]
mircea_popescu: imdb lists 60 credits and he's not been in anything. da fuck. [00:22]
mircea_popescu: mod6 is emma stone the pubescent chick from that franchise with the schoolhouse "wizards" and whatnot ? [00:22]
mod6: dunno /me looks [00:23]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hill's in pantsuit propaganda flicks, aka post humor stoner comedies [00:23]
mircea_popescu: "post humour" ie cancerous faggotry ? mmmmmkay. [00:23]
mod6: mircea_popescu: maybe you're thinking of "Jennifer Stone" ? [00:24]
BingoBoingo: yeah [00:24]
mod6: Wizards of Waverly Place or some shit [00:24]
BingoBoingo: The fanfic thing, it's an emma [00:25]
mod6: ah, hmm. dunno. [00:25]
mod6: Anyway /me likes redheads :] [00:25]
mircea_popescu: whisper in my ear clarifies i was thinking of one emma watson. [00:26]
phf: i saw him in the horrible wolf of wall street and then later in war dogs. both are millennial updates of greater movies, later one being a take on "lord of war". he basically plays the same character, young annoying and smug jew who gets what he wants on chutzpah, until he doesn't. [00:26]
mod6: ahh, emma watson ya. from the wizard thing, gotcha. [00:26]
mod6: phf: lol [00:27]
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, the libertards are exactly so described. they dare do the whole trilema rewrite thing, except their results aren't "the original improved, because closer to mp". their results are "the original, destroyed". [00:27]
mircea_popescu: chutzpah is not for schmucks! [00:27]
BingoBoingo: In other chutzpah https://archive.is/popJa [00:28]
phf: there's nothing good about any of this. i thought scorsese would know better, but there's no defense against old age [00:28]
mircea_popescu: phf and fucking anthony hopkins! wasting his time with the inane netflix crap! and ... [00:28]
mircea_popescu: well hgonestly, all of them. pacino doing bullshit incomprehensible, they all drank dumbweed. [00:29]
BingoBoingo: *smoked dumbweed [00:29]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, was that nigger in the trilema sense ?! [00:29]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Everyone in that story, yes [00:30]
mircea_popescu: heh [00:30]
BingoBoingo: And the visual spectrum sense too [00:30]
* mircea_popescu goes back to bergman. [00:31]
phf: dead directors won't have a chance to disappoint, there's a joke there somewhere about ex wives [00:31]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [00:39]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [00:39]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478505 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1302 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [00:39]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2871.0, vol: 10949.50050683 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2871.7, vol: 26690.41450288 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2878.830513, vol: 8754.72170000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2900.327, vol: 7988.46455973 | Volume-weighted last average: 2876.91203784 [00:40]
mircea_popescu: !!up guest846723 [01:23]
deedbot: guest846723 voiced for 30 minutes. [01:23]
mircea_popescu: guest846723 did you want to say something ? [01:23]
BingoBoingo: Ouija board https://archive.is/rb43A [03:21]
jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK? [03:24]
jurov: BingoBoingo: how could 2626+260 == 3993 ???? [05:34]
jurov: you wrote the report sober or sth? [05:35]
jurov: oh the morning broke, i get it [05:38]
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691879 <<< Yes jurov, it appears it was on mpex side .... sorry for the inconvenience. [07:40]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 07:24 jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK? [07:40]
shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao [10:18]
mod6: mornin' [10:32]
shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix [10:35]
mod6: ahh, haha. they filmed that movie at some arenas I used to play in all the time. [10:38]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << o noes! but there was SUCH DEMAND FOR BIGGER BLOCKS!!!! [11:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao [11:32]
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all [11:32]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2687.98, vol: 12214.37393640 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2681.5, vol: 41319.17544442 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2687.944289, vol: 22935.96470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2694.996, vol: 12455.5303363 | Volume-weighted last average: 2685.94256135 [11:33]
mircea_popescu: i guess the "everyone blathering about bitcoin was wrong, #trilema was right" articles are mysteriously not going to get published by bitcoin.com, coinbase.fakenews and etcetera. [11:33]
mircea_popescu: i dunno what i'm basing this wild notion on, really. i mean they're all truthful, useful and sane news venues, rite. [11:34]
mircea_popescu: and in other "blockchain world" lulz, http://imgur.com/ebLrV7X [11:39]
mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what. [11:40]
mircea_popescu: not like bruce dickinson is taking out google ads on "justin bieber" search strings, is he now. [11:40]
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which! http://ironmaiden.com/whatdoesthisbuttondo/ [11:41]
mircea_popescu: "oh anglotards have no male role models". well i wonder why the fuck that is ? maybe they're not born, yes ? somehow birth proportions changed because tiresome old spinsters say so. totally not because, to pick a random example, that the same trite old spinsters purported to give "bring your daugther to the slaughter" a "golden raspberry" for "worst original song" in 89, before being rescued by iron maiden into topping the ch [11:53]
mircea_popescu: arts. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, the oppinions of stupid old women matter ever so muchly! let's pay attention to what they have to say! [11:54]
* mircea_popescu passes in loud silence over that case where sharon rachel "dumb whore" osbourne got so pissed off dickinson mocked her "talent" (reality tv) that she got her shithead of a husband to try and sabotage iron maiden's performance. [11:58]
mircea_popescu: totally not a case of tiresome old spinsters being ever-so aggressed at nobody giving a shit about their dumb selves. [11:58]
mircea_popescu: !!up Unique_one [12:00]
deedbot: Unique_one voiced for 30 minutes. [12:00]
mircea_popescu: o.O [12:01]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << ty for writing this up danielpbarron. I'll surely be leveraging this in round 2 of my general Gentoo quest even [12:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest [12:55]
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/xFaNd/?raw=true [13:09]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [13:09]
BingoBoingo: jurov: ty, forgot to edit my line in the copypasta process that is report assembly. http://qntra.net/wp-wordcount.php [13:10]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691729 << 1 of the few imho entertaining uses for toypads is the language gamez [13:12]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:41 mircea_popescu: only works after the 12th. [13:12]
asciilifeform: you can do hungarian or something else 'martian' that would never otherwise get to. [13:12]
mircea_popescu: what's a toypad ? [13:12]
asciilifeform: crapple etc [13:13]
mircea_popescu: i never saw that to usefully work. [13:13]
asciilifeform: depends on what is usefully [13:13]
mircea_popescu: yes, it does. [13:13]
asciilifeform: they used to have these for msdos too [13:13]
asciilifeform: (language gamez) [13:13]
asciilifeform: pretty low tech [13:13]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, finding a native hungarian speaker is generally as easy as visiting the closest bordello. [13:13]
asciilifeform: rly? in cr? [13:13]
mircea_popescu: in a civilised country! [13:14]
asciilifeform: lol [13:14]
mircea_popescu: imo fine criterion for "am i living in civilised country". [13:14]
asciilifeform: anyway 'translate this' gamez don't beat harem method, noshit.jpg. but they beat learning by reading spam, which is how i did, e.g., ro [13:14]
mircea_popescu: "usefully" above meant "acquiring a capacity of expression not heretofore had". [13:15]
asciilifeform: expression not so much. readonly is attainable. [13:15]
mircea_popescu: ie, it's not "when i can sort-of mangle my english statements of my thoughts into pashtun", but when "i came up with this perfectly pashtun form of what i was thinking i have nfi how to put in english". [13:15]
asciilifeform: well yes [13:15]
asciilifeform: that'd be 'fluency' [13:15]
mircea_popescu: fluency is when one can interact with native speaker for some definite, common task without having to ask for breaks. [13:16]
mircea_popescu: the equivalent of "no need for flow control" in tcp/ip say [13:16]
mircea_popescu: much lower bar. [13:16]
asciilifeform: i think of 'fluency' as when i can translate poem [13:16]
mircea_popescu: that is poemy not fluency. [13:16]
mircea_popescu: and for the record, it is much higher bar than the above defined "usefully". [13:16]
trinque: I've only been using the tappyputer for flash card, pretty narrow part of "learn language" [13:17]
trinque: *cards [13:17]
mircea_popescu: much like eating your own cum is less disgusting than faire dinette. [13:17]
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think comp is practical for any other level [13:17]
mircea_popescu: in fairness, when i was about 4 or 5 or so my parents wrote various pghone numbers of interest (such as my grandmother) on pieces of paper and afixed them about eye height around the house. [13:18]
mircea_popescu: for a few months i had to run and check, but eventually brain was "fuck this shit, im learning it". [13:18]
* asciilifeform was shown once and learned... [13:18]
mircea_popescu: imo the only real use of the flash card : make it moderately motor inconvenient to check. then you'll learn [13:18]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have had many many relatives [13:18]
mircea_popescu: it's how i learned all the physics constants say, "fuck me if i have to check one more fucking time!" [13:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just zero inclination to memorize anything. [13:19]
mircea_popescu: even today, if i'm trying to reference a girl it's 50% gonna be "you know, that one, with the hair". literally. then the girls have to sort out if i mean jodie foster or that chick we fucked once three months ago. [13:19]
asciilifeform: folx who are too easily persuaded to memorize, come to nogood [13:19]
mircea_popescu: everyone comes to nogood, and especially folks who are persuaded. [13:20]
asciilifeform: ( betcha everyone knows some ) [13:20]
trinque: they become accountants or w/e [13:20]
trinque: terrible folks [13:20]
asciilifeform: trinque: what do accountants memorize ? [13:20]
trinque: tax law [13:20]
trinque: at least in hell [13:20]
mircea_popescu: the account plan. [13:20]
asciilifeform: i was thinking constant 'e' [13:20]
mircea_popescu: do you know the us account plan asciilifeform ? [13:20]
mircea_popescu: what's 322117 ? [13:20]
asciilifeform: can't say that i do ! [13:20]
mircea_popescu: so yeah. [13:20]
asciilifeform: IANAA [13:20]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [13:21]
mircea_popescu: also, the CAEN or however you call the job numbers. [13:21]
mircea_popescu: also etc. [13:21]
* asciilifeform hangs head, realizing that he has maybe two dozen rfc's memorized.. [13:21]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2723.11, vol: 13318.13117936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2725.4, vol: 44647.74211786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2724.868511, vol: 23512.37310000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2724.87231206 [13:21]
mircea_popescu: ha-HA! [13:21]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691747 << this almost suffices to qualify as crane operator!111 [13:22]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:46 mircea_popescu: russian is easy. Xулы?! Нихуя! Нехуй расхуяривать ! Hахуячено нехуево! Похуйярили! is really all you need. [13:22]
mircea_popescu: ikr! [13:22]
asciilifeform: and in fact is how asciilifeform's father addressed subordinates [13:22]
mircea_popescu: lol [13:22]
asciilifeform: ( to productive result ) [13:22]
asciilifeform: and no it dun translate, ends up soup [13:23]
asciilifeform: because the necessary ~structure~ ain't there in monkeylang [13:23]
asciilifeform: ( and some ~excess~ structure - e.g. inflexible word order - interferes ) [13:23]
mircea_popescu: right. [13:23]
asciilifeform: ro dun suffer from these problems, so mircea_popescu knows how this worx. [13:24]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it [13:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:35 shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix [13:25]
asciilifeform: !#s brock pierce [13:25]
a111: 73 results for "brock pierce", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brock%20pierce [13:25]
asciilifeform: ^ subj [13:25]
BingoBoingo: What about the one with Pedo and Sinbad? [13:26]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << this is lulzier considering that, iirc, the fork d00dz also monkeyed with the difficulty equation [13:26]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao [13:26]
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ix2R1/?raw=true [13:27]
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded. [13:27]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << i nearly missed this spiffy piece [13:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest [13:27]
asciilifeform: afaik this recipe would not have helped hanbot: iirc in that case the machine would not even boot the installer ( and afaik no one ever found why ) [13:29]
asciilifeform: the other thing that reading this reminded me of, is that probably tmsr gentoo mirror is inevitable [13:30]
asciilifeform: i have a collection of tarballs, and turning'em into a mirror is on the conveyor. [13:31]
asciilifeform: ( circa - mostly - 2011 ) [13:31]
trinque: without proposing some hardware, no noob is gonna get the thing to work. [13:31]
trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. [13:31]
asciilifeform: trinque: looks like danielpbarron offered to sell some elementary hardware [13:32]
asciilifeform: ( presumably he has a warehouse of such ) [13:32]
asciilifeform: whilesupplieslast. [13:32]
trinque: neato [13:33]
shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick. [13:33]
asciilifeform: shinohai: they did the cheapo sybils thing last yr also [13:33]
asciilifeform: costs about what a loaf of bread does [13:34]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-fails-to-mine-block-in-four-hours-and-counting-exchange-rate-low/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Fails To Mine Block In Four Hours And Counting, Exchange Rate Low [13:34]
shinohai: Complete with handy script to spin up hundreds of docker instances in batch iirc [13:34]
asciilifeform: ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it [13:34]
mircea_popescu: trinque> afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. <<< yes, which is why the way danielpbarron packaged the deal is so intelligent. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: basically, he's ~= RHEL by his lone self. [13:35]
asciilifeform: iirc he has a crate of pogos also. could sell these as well gentooated. [13:35]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it << Comments section is for the lulling about their insufficiency [13:35]
mircea_popescu: my crate of pogos lol. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ? [13:36]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand, d00d! IT WAS FOR THE MASSES! THE DEMAND! PENT UP! [13:36]
asciilifeform: i suspect the pogos would fetch moar moolah if there were yet a gentoo for it [13:36]
mircea_popescu: i don't think niggers & pantsuits got so badly humiliated by anything in history. bitcoin rocks lol. [13:36]
asciilifeform: but should not take much sweat to cook one, use my recipe [13:36]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda the idea. [13:37]
asciilifeform: ( the kernel bringup is the fiddly bit, and i got it going nice an' smooth ) [13:37]
asciilifeform: i also have a port for that other pogo-like thing, whose name escapes me at the present moment, 4 core beast, fiddybux or so [13:37]
shinohai: asciilifeform: You had recipe to gentoo-ize the pogo? [13:38]
asciilifeform: shinohai: linuxize [13:38]
shinohai: I think I spoke breifly w/ danielpbarron abt it [13:38]
asciilifeform: the gentoo userland is separate puzzle [13:38]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475150 << thread. [13:39]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 15:29 deedbot: [Loper OS] Terraforming the “MyCloud Mini” : TTY. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644 [13:39]
asciilifeform: ( re the pogolike box ) [13:39]
asciilifeform: i found it when searching for year+ for suitable (GB/s nic, inexpensive) pogolikes [13:40]
asciilifeform: this one had a little bonus feature : clock battery [13:41]
asciilifeform: today there are probably other , similar boxes on the market, it's been >year since i bothered to look [13:42]
asciilifeform: i'd really prefer one with NEITHER x86 nor arm ( say, superH ) but can't have everything. [13:42]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691896 << iirc we saw one of these last yr [13:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 15:40 mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what. [13:44]
mircea_popescu: i'm sure. [13:44]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692001 << this is worth coming back to : it is 1 of the reason why linuxbios was useful [13:49]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:31 trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. [13:49]
asciilifeform: guaranteed boot into usefully-interactive thing [13:49]
asciilifeform: ( lilo etc in rom ) [13:49]
asciilifeform: so you could actually diagnose wtf is happening on, e.g., that box where it wouldn't read the cd [13:50]
asciilifeform: recent boxes have big enough roms to stuff entire kernel in [13:50]
asciilifeform: which has other advantages. [13:50]
asciilifeform: ( 'recent' being past decade or so ) [13:50]
asciilifeform: many old boxes that took lpc rom can be upgraded to bigger one, i will also note. [13:50]
asciilifeform: in some cases up to 8MB! [13:51]
asciilifeform: ( quite enough for any sane kernel of whatever type ) [13:51]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692006 << since when do these derps list alts on same www as actual btc ?! [13:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:33 shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick. [13:55]
asciilifeform: ( i suppose -- 'since nao' ) [13:55]
mircea_popescu: since forever afaik [13:58]
mircea_popescu: haven't they been listing eg prb ever since ? [13:58]
asciilifeform: prb wasn't truforked yet [13:59]
asciilifeform: ( afaik still not ) [13:59]
mircea_popescu: still not bitcoin in any meaningful sense. [13:59]
asciilifeform: was in the sense that it grudgingly ate same blox [14:00]
asciilifeform: ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats. [14:02]
mircea_popescu: so then. [14:03]
asciilifeform: a rewind of the softfork nonsense would send prb to pluto [14:03]
asciilifeform: !!up p0nziph0ne [14:05]
deedbot: p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes. [14:05]
asciilifeform: ...srsly? [14:05]
p0nziph0ne: ? [14:06]
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron 208.94.116.204loper-os.org unfortunately won't work : nsf co uses dynamic dns and thing won't even load correctly if requested by today's ip ( that's how they send ddos to hell on the cheap, long before there was shitflare etc ) [14:07]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [14:07]
p0nziph0ne: i am glad i have found this channel [14:08]
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-24#1573247 << see thread. [14:08]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-24 23:49 pete_dushenski: i keep getting forwarded to www.www.loper-os.org lol. wondering if i muntzed the /etc/hosts file or what. [14:08]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [14:08]
p0nziph0ne: like your discussions [14:08]
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: introduce yourself ? who are you? what brought you here [14:08]
p0nziph0ne: my journey started at april this year [14:09]
p0nziph0ne: where it all began with monero [14:09]
p0nziph0ne: i read "when you care about privacy have a look at monero" in linux reddit [14:09]
p0nziph0ne: what i found out then was mindblowing [14:10]
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what did you find out ? [14:10]
asciilifeform: !#s monero [14:10]
a111: 226 results for "monero", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=monero [14:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the no static ip thing is starting to be a problem [14:10]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the main problem of that hoster. [14:11]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mirror it on phuctor server ? [14:11]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i get total ddosproofness ( tested empirically ) with five-nines uptime. [14:11]
asciilifeform: for literally 1$ or so per mo [14:11]
asciilifeform: ( varies on load ) [14:11]
mircea_popescu: what difference does it make what dust it costs. [14:12]
asciilifeform: the difference that if i moved it literally ANYWHERE it would cost thousands/mo to get same performance [14:12]
p0nziph0ne: we are living in a world controlled by a few, to work in a slavery for hunting numbers and papers they call it dollar and euro [14:12]
asciilifeform: esp the part where i never have to fiddle with it at all. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne it's altogether dubious you do any work. so it's really win-win. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's he mirroring anyway, a package ? [14:13]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah, it was his list of wwws for hosts table [14:13]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-style [14:13]
mircea_popescu: ah [14:13]
asciilifeform: i dun have anything vital packagewise there. strictly civilian bl0g [14:13]
mircea_popescu: since deedbot reads its rss anyway, i suppose the altenrate route is to go through archive. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how did they say this in soviet, "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, long live the socialist republic" ? [14:15]
asciilifeform: approx [14:15]
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i like my work, its not hard for me at all, tbh i am bored its too easy atm, so i put more time into reading and finding interesting channels like this one [14:16]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is interesting when these folx show up, you can almost ~smell~ reddit [14:16]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-god-has-died/ << Trilema - Why god has died. [14:16]
mircea_popescu: ^ perhaps of interest to his worship danielpbarron [14:16]
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne but what do you do ? [14:17]
p0nziph0ne: i work in the IT for more than 10 yrs [14:17]
p0nziph0ne: i had a steady learning curve [14:17]
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what do you DO ? [14:17]
asciilifeform: as in, with own hands [14:17]
p0nziph0ne: looking for possibilities to grow my knowledge and learn from others [14:18]
asciilifeform: that is not a DO [14:18]
mircea_popescu: this is going well. [14:18]
asciilifeform: lol! [14:18]
mircea_popescu: and in today's "best of pantsuit poetry, all glory to ourdemocracy", http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/gems/a-new-temperance-poem-in-memory-of-my-departed-parents [14:20]
asciilifeform: 'Whereas if he couldn’t get Whisky, Rum, or Brandy, / He wouldn’t do his work so handy' << lolgold [14:21]
mircea_popescu: "Therefore, in that respect let strong drink be abolished in time, And that will cause a great decrease in crime." right in line with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686100 , bridge over the centuries [14:22]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 19:00 ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first [14:22]
p0nziph0ne: asciilifeform: but learning is a doing for me, or i might not get your question yet [14:22]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guns kill people, rum robs people, you know how it is. [14:22]
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: q was, what is it they paid you for [14:23]
asciilifeform: for DOING [14:23]
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne earlier you put forth this proposition that someone is enslaving you and so on. the only problem with this view is whether you actually do anything that's worth stealing. it's perfectly possible you just sit at home all day and eat the govt's dole. [14:23]
asciilifeform: digging cable trenches? crapping our perl ? what. [14:23]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats. << PRB will eat high S when in block. Will fail to propagate high S until mined. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: hm, actually i think bb has it. [14:26]
asciilifeform: iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N) [14:26]
asciilifeform: i'ma check when i get home to the torture room. [14:26]
mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code. [14:26]
ag3nt_zer0: hi all... who or what is that a111? [14:26]
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 log bot. [14:26]
ag3nt_zer0: just grabbing randoms? [14:26]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [14:27]
ag3nt_zer0: oh, no ok [14:27]
ag3nt_zer0: i see you were referencing [14:27]
mircea_popescu: it reads out log lines when someone references the log it keeps. kinda how log bots work here. [14:27]
trinque: mircea_popescu: you latest article demolishes my lingering notion that the grease spot left where a god was killed can be called the same thing as him. or http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594911 [14:28]
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:43 mircea_popescu: in any case, no, the clay colossi are all that - machinery, golums. [14:28]
mircea_popescu: the advantage of mythical time (which is what's involved whenever gods are discussed) is that you can flow it backwards as well as forwards. [14:29]
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i am pretty free in what i am doing, i may choose the topics by myself, its a comfortable position because i always look out for optimizations whether its automation or security as a benefit for all, employees, company/customers and of course through automation less workload for me [14:32]
mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art) [14:32]
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne i see. [14:32]
p0nziph0ne: i do not feel enslaved personal, but the system makes lot of people to money slaves, loosing its value daily [14:33]
mircea_popescu: let no one say psychotropics do not inspire creativity in sensitive people! [14:33]
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne so what's thje problem with a bunch of tards being slaves ? [14:33]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N) << No tienen bolludos por eso [14:33]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692127 >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles&%21v=0.10.0#1688 [14:33]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:26 mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code. [14:33]
asciilifeform: ( seems to confirm my iirc ) [14:33]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cojones. [14:34]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform block version. [14:34]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: DER is encoding standard for signature, nothing about S [14:34]
BingoBoingo: DER stops the Gox "drop zeros" [14:34]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: cojones doesn't have the implication about size [14:35]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bolludo from balls, argentine slang. [14:35]
* asciilifeform believes [14:36]
mircea_popescu: anyway, without discussing all the rest of the matter : asciilifeform should a high-S block be included with version <3 that if would pass. [14:36]
asciilifeform: only if top 750 blox are <3 [14:37]
asciilifeform: otherwise rejects. [14:37]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> expression not so much. readonly is attainable. << Way to make jump seems to be read a book, listen to speakers, interject, keep interjecting until you can swim in conversation [14:37]
asciilifeform: ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/chainparams.cpp?v=0.10.0#0119 , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=0.10.0#2655 see also . ) [14:37]
asciilifeform: this was the latest prb handily indexed by jurov . possibly different logic in moar recents. [14:38]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so at most prb goes away for a week. [14:38]
mircea_popescu: big whoop. [14:38]
asciilifeform: i didn't say it was a bigger woop. [14:39]
asciilifeform: but that mircea_popescu was actually right in 'prb != bitcoin' strictly. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: right. but i wouldn't say this qualifies as any sort of check. [14:39]
asciilifeform: it can be wedged apart with a relatively compact crowbar. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: but yes, prb is an amateurish attempt at a non-compliant bitcoin node. [14:39]
asciilifeform: i suspect that the real forkgold is in the ecc routines. [14:40]
asciilifeform: which are a fairly heavy chunk of voodoo, i've been slowly chewing through. [14:40]
mircea_popescu: with all sorts of silly/quirky/potentially dangerous misbehaviours, neither defined nor ennumerated, yet irresponsibly baked in. because monkeys loive to code, can't read code. [14:40]
mircea_popescu: like in that joke with the soviet policemen. [14:40]
asciilifeform: ( both openssl turd and the moar recent prb-proprietary one ) [14:40]
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/aiYBv << The DER tests, nothing about which S, which S wank came later https://archive.is/aiYBv [14:41]
asciilifeform: interestingly there does not, by all indications, exist anywhere anything like a sane implementation of ecdsa [14:41]
asciilifeform: to this day [14:41]
mircea_popescu: how would it ? [14:41]
asciilifeform: well, say somebody sat down an'... wrote one [14:41]
mircea_popescu: like... who ? [14:41]
asciilifeform: somebody!1111 [14:41]
mircea_popescu: "there exists no standard plumbing in anthill". well... um... [14:41]
mircea_popescu: this is kinda not how anthill works. [14:42]
asciilifeform: currently i strongly suspect that it is possible to produce a technically valid ecdsa sig that will choke 1 particular ecctron but NOT another particular one. [14:42]
asciilifeform: instafork. [14:42]
mircea_popescu: possibru. [14:42]
asciilifeform: ( this is definitionally so if thing is sufficiently complex + ill-specified. ) [14:43]
asciilifeform: currently i also suspect that the whole ecc 'fashion' was instituted specifically to prevent a ffa-style treatment. [14:43]
mircea_popescu: seems fertile ground for "gotcha" in any case. [14:44]
asciilifeform: aaha. [14:44]
asciilifeform: and i will note, if a cipher system REQUIRES a MB of source, it is not a cipher system but an overcomplicated practical joke [14:45]
mircea_popescu: how long was mpfhf, fifty lines ? [14:45]
asciilifeform: ( the question of whether it actually takes the mb -- will be settled when i get around to implementing ) [14:45]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends in what. but not so long. [14:45]
mircea_popescu: so then 50 for a hash, say 100 for a cipher. seems fair to me. [14:46]
asciilifeform: i dunno how to fit a bignumtron in 100 [14:46]
asciilifeform: ( 100 ~readable~ , clear ln ) [14:46]
mircea_popescu: the cipher tho, not the gcd [14:46]
asciilifeform: if somebody does -- plz write in. [14:46]
asciilifeform: i am counting whole shebang [14:46]
mircea_popescu: well what, including display bindings ? the kernel ? [14:47]
asciilifeform: ffa for instance does NOT rely on an os [14:47]
asciilifeform: or kernel [14:47]
mircea_popescu: it's fine if it imports its maffs. [14:47]
asciilifeform: being present at all [14:47]
asciilifeform: it is portable to micros [14:47]
asciilifeform: all you need is a putbyteuart and getbyteuart [14:47]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686859 << see also [14:47]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 19:00 asciilifeform: i have 'p' structured such that all it wants i/o-wise is a 'getbyte' and 'putbyte' that operator can replace with whatever [14:47]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-13#1669719 << seealso [14:53]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 23:13 asciilifeform: >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lBzDS/?raw=true << from the archives of asciilifeform : simple c example of The Only Driver [14:53]
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity. [14:53]
asciilifeform: ^ minimal x86 'os' in c. [14:53]
asciilifeform: worx everywhere from 386 to whatever's on your desk. [14:54]
asciilifeform: ( may have to change the constant in line 3 . ) [14:54]
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691984 << looool. yes, apparently, he was in this movie. [14:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it [14:59]
mod6: they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters. [15:12]
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692017 << very much so yes, but I have not figured out how to gentoo a pogo unfortunately. I wasn't aware that there was a published recipe for it but i'll check out the loper OS article on the MyCloud Mini thing [15:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:36 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ? [15:14]
danielpbarron: i must admit, working with the pogo makes me feel quite stupid. brings back that fear I used to get when working on normal computers "oh no will it no longer boot? i'm screwed!" [15:18]
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: use my boot-on-tftp recipe [15:18]
asciilifeform: doesn't touch the rom [15:18]
asciilifeform: it was how i sweated out the pogorotor thing [15:18]
asciilifeform: ( bonus, gives ooda loop of 5sec or so ) [15:18]
danielpbarron: is that for getting into it in the first place so that something more permanent can be installed? [15:21]
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: strictly for dev work [15:22]
asciilifeform: ~useless in any other case [15:22]
shinohai: Well almost *6* hours later the tards finally manage to mine a block. [15:28]
shinohai: This is good for coffeecoin [15:28]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-finally-mines-a-block/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Finally Mines A Block [15:47]
BingoBoingo: <mod6> they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters. << What you have to do is speak during a take that is too good to exclude, get your SAG card. [15:48]
BingoBoingo: !~calc 8/36 [15:49]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: 8/36 = 0.2222222222222222 [15:49]
BingoBoingo: ^ MEGA thoroughput increase [15:50]
BingoBoingo: !!up Birdman [16:05]
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes. [16:05]
mircea_popescu: mod6 there are worse asses to grab than figure skater's. [16:31]
mod6: oh for sure. figure skaters often has nice asses. we like. [16:32]
mircea_popescu: gotta stamp for approval also. [16:33]
mod6: :] [16:33]
f1maze: do I have to verify with deedbot everytime I connect? [17:31]
f1maze: lol [17:32]
mircea_popescu: yes. an' also stop join/parting all the time [17:32]
f1maze: Is it that often? I connect/disconnect when arriving and leaving work, and when I get home [17:33]
mircea_popescu: so get a bouncer maybe ? [17:34]
BingoBoingo: Set up a bouncer before you get a tumour [17:34]
f1maze: I dont know what that is [17:34]
f1maze: guys, I'm new here [17:34]
mircea_popescu: see how many things you learn here :D [17:34]
shinohai: Google for `znc` or `weechat` f1maze .... you're welcome [17:35]
trinque: curious what f1maze thinks would be the alternative to deedbot auth each time [17:39]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692139 << young trinque was deeply insulted by the chemical spirits that, no matter which he took, never saw a damn thing cept woobly versions of plain old reality. [17:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:32 mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art) [17:42]
BingoBoingo: Just remember kids, a lawnmower is simply an underpowered helicopter flipped over [18:01]
shinohai: "http://pool.bitcoin.com is being DDoS'd. Small blockers are nothing better than militant terrorists" <<< BUT OF COURSE!!!! [18:11]
f1maze: BingoBoingo: I added nitrous to my lawnmower to make it a hovercraft [18:14]
mircea_popescu: keks shinohai [18:27]
mircea_popescu: russian hackers, it prolly was. [18:28]
shinohai: Prolly ddosin' themselves, what with the 1 hour+ blocktimes this shit has [18:31]
mircea_popescu: "d"dosing [18:33]
shinohai: The.y wanted the D [18:34]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ponytail adventures, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c4dcffc267d4f553fcb90a66bcaa584f/tumblr_o4r93t1zGs1uxrkulo1_1280.jpg [18:38]
mircea_popescu: !!up pa1atine [18:44]
deedbot: pa1atine voiced for 30 minutes. [18:44]
pa1atine: hi [18:44]
mircea_popescu: ello [18:44]
pa1atine: i think i got around at generating my key [18:44]
pa1atine: i also posted it on wtopaste [18:45]
pa1atine: anybody so kind to give me further pointers? [18:45]
mircea_popescu: what is it that you need ? [18:45]
pa1atine: well, how to register it with deedbot [18:46]
shinohai: pa1atine: http://deedbot.org/help.html [18:46]
pa1atine: ty [18:46]
shinohai: https://twitter.com/poisonmadam/status/892514378314076160 <<< "Who's brave enough to carve My initials *MP* into their skin and DM Me the proof? I want you to suffer for Me boys. " [18:48]
shinohai: kek [18:48]
mircea_popescu: lmao. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: what was the usg gdp/usd backed by, again ? "creativity" was it ? [18:48]
pa1atine: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/W5MZw/?raw=true [18:48]
deedbot: AAC0378219053AFD79AFA4D8861DF5C40C813682 is already registered as pa1atine. [18:48]
mircea_popescu: " Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?", to quote. [18:49]
shinohai: So now pa1atine you already have key registered, you just need to /msg deedbot !!up (assuming someone has rated you) [18:50]
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust deedbot pa1atine [18:50]
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections. [18:50]
pa1atine: i did it this morning, but it didn't seem to work out at the time [18:51]
mircea_popescu: so who are you, who do you know, what are you doing ? [18:51]
shinohai: Lettuce hope you retained your private key [18:51]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/ardilla-al-dente/ << Trilema - Ardilla al dente! [18:52]
pa1atine: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690419 [18:52]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 21:43 palatine: i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general [18:52]
mircea_popescu: ah you changed your name [18:52]
mircea_popescu: !!rate pa1atine 1 Italian lawyer guy, apparently. [18:53]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqGg1/?raw=true [18:53]
pa1atine: changed the nick, since irc said was already registerd [18:53]
mircea_popescu: !!v 7FF08C6B5987A00EC3901DEF95DDBCAB55E64CA676EB7E1588AC133B0B0951A5 [18:53]
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently. [18:53]
mircea_popescu: there, you can self voice now. [18:53]
shinohai: Ardilla, lol ... when I was in CA I got thrown back by *iguana tacos* [18:53]
pa1atine: ty [18:53]
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's eaten here too. iguana i mean. [18:54]
shinohai: Has mircea_popescu tried this delicacy? [18:58]
mircea_popescu: nope [19:27]
mircea_popescu: i only ever saw it in either teh bidonvilles or the very dubious cheapo vendors, and it never appealed. [19:28]
pa1atine: that is a fucking achievement [19:36]
mircea_popescu: wd. [19:37]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, here's the top employers for pierce country (wa) : jblm, 66k public schools, 13.5k obamacare etc 7k the state of washington 6.5k, the franciscan health system (about as franciscan as the ny jewish stuff) : 5.5k the county of pierce : 3k the state-owned universities : 2.5k fred meyer stores : 2.5k. [19:37]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) [19:37]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) = 0.023474178403755867 [19:37]
mircea_popescu: 2.3% "private", for a definition of "private" that essentially reduces to walmart. if it were properly private fred meyer would just be the stamp on the local scrip. [19:38]
mod6: evenin' [19:39]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis [19:39]
mircea_popescu: ~~~PUTIN~~~ is hit by a recession because of his inept policies and ~~~PUTIN~~~ is trying to hide the crisis. and so on and so forth. [19:39]
mircea_popescu: reading fakepapers is such a riot. [19:39]
ben_vulpes: what fraction of folks work for operations not on the biggest list? [19:39]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how would you calculate this ? [19:40]
mircea_popescu: they're all in the tide dollar trade i'd expect, who the fuck would work for bezzlar if not on the biggest list [19:40]
ben_vulpes: "but mp, half of people work for small companies!!1" [19:40]
mircea_popescu: "and get paid in fucks" [19:41]
mircea_popescu: anyway, tacoma pop is 195k if that helps, of which 45k famblies. [19:41]
mircea_popescu: so i'd expect 0% work outside of that biggest list. [19:41]
ben_vulpes: pierce county 795k [19:41]
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole fucking sounds region was like 1mn [19:42]
f1maze: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken [19:42]
ben_vulpes: incl. seattle?! [19:42]
f1maze: needs peer review I'd imagine^^ [19:42]
mircea_popescu: well no, not seattle. the sounds. [19:42]
ben_vulpes: ah [19:42]
ben_vulpes: f1maze: is this steemit thing plagiarizing the logs or what [19:42]
mircea_popescu: i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ? [19:43]
mircea_popescu: comium ? dorkium ? [19:43]
mircea_popescu: medium! [19:43]
f1maze: He does cite some logs [19:43]
f1maze: in previous work [19:44]
ben_vulpes: mm [19:44]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not that i dispute that boeing, ms, and ~everything in that neighborhood are no more than imperial outposts [19:45]
mircea_popescu: if boeing is private, then i have no fucking idea what "state owned" would mean. they do pay their debts every ~15 years or so neh [19:46]
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the "independent, career-oriented business woman" with a string of "serial entrepeneurship" consisting of hair salons her bf at the time bought for her. [19:46]
ben_vulpes: remainder sliver is ad tech and masters degree holders pouring cocktails [19:47]
mircea_popescu: (i've met a bunch of these btw, insane and incomprehensible as the item may appear in theory) [19:47]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "fake tits and great attitude", http://68.media.tumblr.com/d832f2f93f38b074d0589482036c4d75/tumblr_o9l3uv1Uhj1udxojxo1_1280.jpg [19:48]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [19:54]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478627 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1180 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [19:54]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [19:54]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2732.0, vol: 12511.66342067 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2731.0, vol: 42322.12733475 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2727.846511, vol: 23790.16560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2731.972, vol: 13156.3264475 | Volume-weighted last average: 2730.45824516 [19:55]
mircea_popescu: oh incidentally, speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691609 : word re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688636 ? maybe by next report ? [19:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html [19:57]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 ben_vulpes: interesting [19:57]
* mod6 re-reads [19:59]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ? << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691555 [20:00]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 22:11 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aged tardstalk account, apparently posts on altcoin attempt at making a reddit that pays like a Qntra [20:00]
mircea_popescu: anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anything really. [20:01]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh, is steemit owned by the anonymint guy ? [20:01]
BingoBoingo: Not that I'm aware of [20:01]
BingoBoingo: Apparently only person writing things people read there [20:02]
BingoBoingo: micropayments thing [20:02]
mircea_popescu: ah [20:02]
BingoBoingo: Kinda how /r/buttcoin started as Something Awful and is now all Stolfi's regrets [20:04]
mircea_popescu: lol is this the latin america orc dreaming he's like human and university professor like the whites and everything ? [20:05]
mircea_popescu: still around and everything ? [20:05]
BingoBoingo: Well dunno about university professor part [20:07]
BingoBoingo: but still on reddit [20:07]
mircea_popescu: how about the fat girl ? [20:08]
mircea_popescu: scienceateyou or what was it. [20:08]
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-2#174580 << zany and interesting we'll have more to say by next report absolutely [20:11]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-08-02 00:00 mircea_popescu: anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anyth [20:11]
mircea_popescu: cool [20:11]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out. [20:15]
mircea_popescu: oh also, did we do http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/attack-iraq-embassy-kabul-reported-170731071753080.html ? [20:17]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/01/just-do-it/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Just Do It. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: and in other chipotle lulz, http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2017/08/01/safirstein-metcalf-llp-announces-that-a-class-action-has-been-filed-against [20:20]
mircea_popescu: oh, also : http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170728005619/en/LEAD-PLAINTIFF-DEADLINE-ALERT-Faruqi-Faruqi-LLP/ "Lastly, the report stated that Indonesian Supreme Court documents describe “torture ships” that implicate the Company in “the modern-day slavery that has infected pockets of South East Asia’s fishing industry”. [20:24]
asciilifeform: in other noose, zoolag is back in service [20:55]
asciilifeform: ( nfi why went down, linux is 'helpful' as always ) [20:55]
mod6: hi asciilifeform [20:58]
asciilifeform: heya mod6 [20:58]
asciilifeform: what's new in mod6dom [20:58]
mod6: not too much. had some meatballs the size of my head damn near. [20:59]
mod6: does a body good. [20:59]
asciilifeform: neato [20:59]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how was the retreat? [21:00]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not over yet. i'm on a short vacation from vacation [21:00]
asciilifeform: then going right back. [21:00]
ben_vulpes: sounds lovely [21:01]
* ben_vulpes formally embarking on homeorificequest [21:01]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692210 << beautiful [21:05]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:53 asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity. [21:05]
asciilifeform: lol it's not exactly high tech [21:05]
phf: precisely [21:05]
asciilifeform: in fact i had similar (nao lost , sadly, to disk rot ) item from uni hw [21:05]
asciilifeform: ( maybe phf remembers ! cs 412 at umd ) [21:07]
asciilifeform: but in point of fact, no joak, you dun need ANY moar of an os than ^ above, to do usefulwork. [21:08]
asciilifeform: most particularly you don't need writable storage. i'ma make a demo box with 'p' and no nonvolatiles. [21:09]
phf: of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ ) [21:09]
asciilifeform: lol i had nfi d00d still in biznis [21:09]
mircea_popescu: lmao sikrit squirrel. [21:11]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692309 << i get paywall [21:12]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 23:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis [21:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692321 << ahahahaha another fine production of 'let's read #trilema and never cite', так победим! folx [21:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 23:42 f1maze: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken [21:14]
asciilifeform: 'The flaw is that the set of transactions mixed together that provides the anonymity set, is never all of the unspent transactions (UTXO) on the blockchain.' followed by various spurious deductions and push of 'zerocash' scamcoin [21:15]
phf: aww, hicks has been pimping cyclone back when i took his class too, now he has to say on his page "Cyclone, a safe dialect of C. Cyclone's system for manual memory management was influential in the development of Rust." we are relevant!!1 [21:15]
phf: of course cyclone is an order of magnitude higher technological achievement than rust. reminds me of common lisper "we brought garbage collector java". so it goes. [21:16]
asciilifeform: poor buggers, stuck 'invent typesafe optimizing compiler' when ada already existed in 1982 [21:16]
asciilifeform: but you won't get tenure for 'let's ada' [21:17]
asciilifeform: just as you won't for 'let's rsa' [21:17]
asciilifeform: ( see thread re latter subj from last march ) [21:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing substantial. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hubAh/?raw=true [21:17]
asciilifeform: lollamatic [21:17]
mircea_popescu: phf reminds me of fucktard murdock "oh, we were first apple store" [21:17]
mircea_popescu: the substance of ineptitude is getting the dumbass to sell his ass cheap. [21:18]
mod6: <+phf> of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ ) << heh [21:21]
phf: relevant http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T792V0_uoCw/R6T6hAIArPI/AAAAAAAAAWk/8zJzYpskpNA/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/PBF244-Preach_Skate.jpg [21:23]
asciilifeform: ahahahahayes [21:23]
phf: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/maritime-supremacy/ << "The new aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford has all sorts of high-tech gear equipped for 21st century naval warfare. But there is one thing that male sailors will notice is no longer available: Urinals." [21:32]
mircea_popescu: holy shit this is stupid. [21:33]
mod6: piss-jugs swabby! [21:33]
mircea_popescu: the REASON urinals exist is because you can satisfy about 3x as many toilet needs per unit space thios way. [21:33]
asciilifeform: y'know, pissing in pants where you stand takes even LESS space [21:33]
asciilifeform: why not do that. [21:33]
phf: "When he is designing a bathroom, Kaufman says he is required to allot around 1,500 square inches of space for a urinal. A toilet needs more than 3,300 square inches. … “Why would you want the ship to be bigger just for fixtures?” said Kaufman. “You can get twice as many urinals as water closets.”" [21:33]
asciilifeform: and why does a ship even need urinals ? piss over the rail. [21:34]
mircea_popescu: tbh, if i ran the us navy it'd be all urinals -- but wall style not separates and turkish toilets (no enclosure). and all showers are open space. [21:34]
phf: ^ [21:34]
mircea_popescu: if you can't shit squatting / wash naked with 100 other dudes you go straight overboard in a sack. [21:34]
mircea_popescu: this is the navy not fucking uncle natasha's farm. [21:35]
asciilifeform: iirc they had ~this prior to the chix captains thing [21:35]
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is the big deal anyway. what, they'll fuck her if she soaps her snatch on the deck ? [21:35]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pissing over rail is ~same as "puke out window of bus on highway". works better in theory than in practice. [21:36]
mircea_popescu: (btw, my 3x above is correct figure, obtained fgrom busy bar/club experience. the surface doesn't do it justice, you need 150% longer to use a toilet to pee than if you peed on the wall.) [21:38]
mircea_popescu: so it's like 2.1x space 1.45x time or such. [21:38]
f1maze: Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true [21:40]
mircea_popescu: lmao [21:40]
mircea_popescu: wouldja stop posting random rambling nonsense from the shannon noise farm ? [21:41]
f1maze: Certainly, can be humourous at times though! sorry [21:43]
f1maze: at least I dont join/part as much as the deep book^ [21:57]
f1maze: But seriously, time for me to unplug and get back to work. I will get the bouncer to help out my spam. Sorry farewell! [21:58]
phf: a bouncer is a handy exercise in unixology, but you can also reduce the spam by joining only when you have something to say, or want to participate in conversation, and read the logs through web otherwise [21:58]
phf: (that's what i do, i just also have a bouncer, so it's hard to see) [21:59]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1590...8143 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown US CA) [21:59]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1536...1327 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown US CA) [21:59]
mircea_popescu: i guess it only goes to show most spam is done by pointless crap. [22:07]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692429 << ever lived in a house with a leaking reddit pipe ? [22:25]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 01:40 f1maze: Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true [22:25]
asciilifeform: terrible thing [22:25]
asciilifeform: out, out, it seeps. [22:25]
asciilifeform: bad enough when leakage is out on the sidewalk. [22:26]
mircea_popescu: lol. can't say as i have. [22:39]
mircea_popescu: and from the "better clothes for women" dept, http://68.media.tumblr.com/34b8a7e51056c6489e34c365ad59fcb5/tumblr_nzul5ySdSK1rv5c0vo1_1280.jpg [22:43]
* shinohai The Baron Titsbare approves ...... [22:51]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out. << Yeah, Amazon is headed for a Trump confrontation [23:10]
mircea_popescu: aha. [23:23]
BingoBoingo: Trump is going to have to hit Bezos with the Teddy Roosevelt anti-trust stick, killing the Amazon Wapo's credibility on the way [23:44]
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/#comment-106710 [23:46]
mircea_popescu: seems likely dunnit [23:48]
BingoBoingo: Almost inevitable at this point. Possibly this might be the ONLY actual point of contention between Trump and Sessions. [23:50]
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is he going to run a socialist soviet with antitrust laws on the books is anyone's guess. [23:52]
mircea_popescu: what, a herd of mini-czars for each fieldf, holding plenaries ? [23:52]
BingoBoingo: That's kinda what Hussein Bahamas tried. [23:53]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, at present the stick exists. Jeff Bezos is asking for it. [23:54]
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