Forum logs for 31 Oct 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 18 @ 0.0551 = 0.9918 BTC [-] [00:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00514 = 0.3547 BTC [-] {2} [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00503562 = 1.2589 BTC [-] {9} [00:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2} [00:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00082132 = 6.1599 BTC [+] [00:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.005 = 0.115 BTC [-] {3} [00:55]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 32.87308080 BTC to 9`303 shares, 353360 satoshi per share [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00511199 = 0.5112 BTC [+] {2} [01:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00107245 = 0.2145 BTC [-] {4} [01:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 138 @ 0.00513999 = 0.7093 BTC [+] {2} [01:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00513999 = 0.2056 BTC [+] {2} [01:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.595 BTC [-] [01:08]
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benkay ;;help [01:24]
gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ [01:24]
benkay !help [01:24]
assbot List of commands: [01:24]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [01:24]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [01:24]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [01:24]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [01:24]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [01:24]
assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) [01:24]
assbot !bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} [01:24]
assbot !quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} [01:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] [01:30]
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mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1pkr9q/cardano_pricepoint_released/ < if anyone got a voting account... [01:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00016 = 0.16 BTC [-] [01:40]
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benkay ping mircea_popescu please see pm [01:50]
mircea_popescu aye [01:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 12.79782396 BTC to 381`228 shares, 3357 satoshi per share [02:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00514 = 0.1131 BTC [+] {2} [02:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06981428 = 0.4887 BTC [+] {2} [02:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.069999 = 0.56 BTC [+] [02:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 0.06999954 = 0.77 BTC [+] {3} [02:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00016 = 0.32 BTC [-] [02:40]
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benkay ;;market [02:44]
gribble Error: "market" is not a valid command. [02:44]
benkay what's the command to see how much the price would move for an asset given a specific buy/sell size? [02:44]
mircea_popescu ;;sell 500 [02:44]
gribble (sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message) [02:44]
mircea_popescu um [02:44]
mircea_popescu ;;market sell 500 [02:45]
gribble A market order to sell 500 bitcoins right now would net 102290.2509 USD and would take the last price down to 204.0020 USD, resulting in an average price of 204.5805 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds [02:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00514285 = 0.108 BTC [+] {2} [02:45]
benkay does not work for assets? [02:47]
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mircea_popescu not afaik. [02:50]
mircea_popescu best you got there is [02:50]
mircea_popescu $vwap S.NSA [02:50]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.0001 high: 0.00010005 low: 0.0001 volume: 4092075 btc: 409.212695 [02:50]
mircea_popescu oh i mean [02:50]
mircea_popescu $depth S.NSA [02:50]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: S.NSA Bids: ['1337 @ 0.00015', '100000 @ 0.0001', '1000 @ 0.0001', '700 @ 0.0001', '5000 @ 9.1e-05'] [02:50]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.00023', '10000 @ 0.000232', '2500 @ 0.000233', '3000 @ 0.000234', '5000 @ 0.000235'] [02:50]
b0n1 what do you say about the potential of ripple? [02:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00519999 = 0.104 BTC [+] [02:51]
benkay lol at 1337 @ 0.00015 [02:51]
benkay has it not been exhausted, b0n1, draining wealth from the foolish already? [02:51]
benkay why do i care about cryptographically secured debt of american banks? [02:51]
mircea_popescu did it get open sourced for reals iirc ? [02:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00519999 = 0.1768 BTC [+] {3} [02:52]
b0n1 benkay, what do you mean? [02:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00534998 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2} [02:54]
Namworld That ripple is horseshit is what he meant [02:56]
benkay i can sign a promise to pay you some money [02:57]
benkay and with my OTC reputation, it'd be largely worthless [02:57]
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benkay american banks are going to ignore cryptocurrencies until their lunches are thoroughly et [02:57]
benkay "what ever will we do with our chargeback fraud department?" [02:58]
benkay mired in their own paradigms [02:58]
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Namworld Instead of being an open-source currency, ripple is (not sure if it is yet) an open-source ledger of who owes who, with debt used as money. If that's not an issue in your book... [02:58]
Namworld I'll pass on ripple, debt is not money [02:59]
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benkay $depth S.MPOE [03:00]
mpexbot benkay: S.MPOE Bids: ['1495 @ 0.00081409', '1035 @ 0.00081286', '5250 @ 0.00081194', '3128 @ 0.00080868', '6735 @ 0.00080817'] [03:00]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust benkay [03:00]
mpexbot benkay: Asks: ['100 @ 0.00082132', '700 @ 0.00082282', '13200 @ 0.00082285', '3600 @ 0.00082333', '3228 @ 0.00082487'] [03:00]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 [03:00]
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mircea_popescu it's not THAT bad. [03:00]
benkay heh. [03:00]
benkay i've picked the entities from whom i've asked for ratings carefully. [03:01]
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benkay don't quite recall why i asked for one from smickles [03:02]
mircea_popescu so i'm buying ~1.6 bn isk worth of gear on the eve markets while selling ~5.4bn isk worth of gear [03:02]
mircea_popescu i would say bitcoin's eve corp is reasonably fiscally conservative... [03:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.34 = 0.68 BTC [+] [03:14]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 264 @ 0.04782021 = 12.6245 BTC [-] {13} [03:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1585 BTC [-] [03:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] [03:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6015 BTC [-] [03:29]
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nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdgAyzHx5Y [04:15]
ozbot Sufjan Stevens [Full Official Album] - Seven Swans - IndieMusicAddict - YouTube [04:15]
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bobbabad how long has it been taken for people to get verified on bitfunder/weexchange? [04:17]
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nubbins` i want to see a headline that says "man bought $25 of bitcoins in 2009, didn't forget about them, now worth $886k" [04:20]
asciilifeform nubbins`: the peanut gallery only goes wild for stories of 'ordinary bloke like you & i lucked out!' [04:21]
MTBmanTT that be nice [04:21]
asciilifeform lottery win is 'sexy', successful investment diddling, not so much. [04:22]
nubbins` "many people, including this man who forgot about it, bought $25 of bitcoins in 2009" [04:23]
nubbins` "man buys car, forgets, now realizes he doesn't have to take the bus" [04:23]
nubbins` "woman remembers there's still cake" [04:24]
nubbins` it's like something from the onion [04:24]
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mircea_popescu "woman remembers there's still cake" <<< ahahaha [04:33]
mircea_popescu you speak with all the wisdom of the family man. [04:33]
mircea_popescu http://imagehaul.com/haul/e4d7f5 [04:34]
ozbot Imagehaul - Opposite day [04:34]
mircea_popescu i salute the idea of getting the kids used to bdsm early, tho the implementation is perhaps a little shoddy. [04:34]
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nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321370.0 [04:40]
ozbot Selling THC tests and Pregnancy tests [04:40]
nubbins` title says it all [04:40]
mircea_popescu lol [04:41]
MTBmanTT lol [04:42]
mircea_popescu especially seeing how his nick is giveaway and his products are like... overpriced. [04:43]
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mircea_popescu what sort of retard is this, most countries actually give out free preg tests, or otherwise heavily sponsor them [04:43]
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nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/1-oz.-fine-silver-coin-polar-bear-mintage-8500-2014-prod1730022#.UnHFwJSxPk0 [04:55]
ozbot 1 oz. Fine Silver Coin - Polar Bear - Mintage: 8,500 (2014) [04:55]
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Ademan Is havelock running like crap for anyone else? [05:29]
Vexual yeah its not loading here [05:30]
Vexual is it a haloween year? [05:32]
mircea_popescu http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/90985-man-wears-obama-mask-company-halloween-party-company-promptly-orders-sensitivity-training-750-employees/ [05:35]
ozbot Man Wears Obama Mask To Office Halloween Party; Company Orders Sensitivity Training For All 750 Em [05:35]
mircea_popescu nowit is. [05:35]
Vexual i want two of those nsa t's so i can not go to a party as not something atall [05:36]
mircea_popescu hehe [05:37]
mircea_popescu good idea this. [05:37]
Vexual who designed them? [05:37]
asciilifeform 'and then one day upon the stair, i met a man who wasn't there; he wasn't there again today - i really wish he'd go away.' [05:37]
Vexual i think theyre fuckin cool [05:38]
mircea_popescu :) [05:38]
mircea_popescu they were designed by the following procedure : asciilifeform and me threw around ideas, settled on usb finger, then i had a bunch of women send me pics of their hands flipping the bird, then i had it outlined and printed. [05:39]
mircea_popescu proving once and for all that the best work designers do is when the tech and management people just give them clear and concise orders they can follow. [05:40]
Vexual what no eagles vagina? [05:41]
mircea_popescu sadly we couldn't find a vagina large enough. [05:41]
Vexual rofl [05:41]
Vexual does the acrylic go right around? i want to cast a copy in lead [05:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform just don't look around the hall. [05:42]
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mircea_popescu Vexual what's "right around" ? [05:42]
asciilifeform i can't help but think of the lead casts they must've pulled from the corpses of counterfeiters executed in the traditional way, in the old days. [05:43]
Vexual whoaha brother, im not counterfeiting anything [05:44]
Vexual ive got 4000 dvds [05:45]
asciilifeform well, lead and orifices mentioned together. [05:45]
mircea_popescu lol [05:45]
asciilifeform btw, some joker wrote a paper (maybe competing for the igNobel?) replicating this on cow carcasses [05:45]
asciilifeform got some pretty interesting casts. [05:45]
Vexual have you seen the hangman in going postal? [05:47]
Vexual he gets the guy to sign the noose so he can auction it for more on the clacks [05:47]
Vexual clever lady that terri hatchet [05:48]
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Vexual ill breathe some lead fumes to make you some protective sleeves [05:52]
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Vexual i just need an ore deposit, never seen no lead [05:53]
asciilifeform Vexual: never been fishing? [05:54]
Vexual i can get iron and manganese and make good steel with sticks in a week [05:56]
Vexual you can weld some of the rocks found around these parts [05:57]
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Vexual asciilifeform I'm sure I can find some kids to collect car wheel balancing weights for a six pack of light beer [06:00]
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asciilifeform Vexual: best place to get astounding quantities of lead, cheaply, is... a boatyard. [06:01]
asciilifeform or maybe not anymore, with prices being what they are. 'peak lead'... [06:02]
BingoBoingo If you are brave enough to trek to Missouri there is still plenty in the rocks to be mined. [06:04]
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BingoBoingo Doing things the official way would be expensive, but guerilla lead mining might be economical. [06:07]
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mircea_popescu i used to have ~30kgs of lead soldiers [06:13]
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mircea_popescu strangely enough they weren't unsafe for kids back then [06:13]
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mircea_popescu somebody tell vragnaroda to come back [06:18]
Vexual is that a vampire? [06:19]
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mircea_popescu just a naxi [06:20]
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Vexual badman nonetheless im guessing [06:23]
mircea_popescu nah [06:24]
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Vexual im noot familiar with naxi [06:24]
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BingoBoingo Anyone here have a CoinBr invite code? [06:25]
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Vexual Xr8gh%! [06:26]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0 [06:27]
ozbot Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest [06:27]
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mircea_popescu look who's back [06:27]
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Vexual im opening the shyrah soon [06:27]
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Vexual now that is the most delicoious smell anywhere [06:31]
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Vexual you can tell the winmaker made 10million percent mopre than the pickers [06:32]
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Vexual evily good [06:32]
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Vexual old vines [06:33]
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Vexual of course there are much older vine in europe [06:37]
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mircea_popescu $vwap s.mpoe [06:51]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.0008168 high: 0.00082379 low: 0.00080585 volume: 105980 btc: 86.56439203 7 day: average: 0.0008168 high: 0.00082379 low: 0.00080585 volume: 105980 btc: 86.56439203 30 day: average: 0.00085145 high: 0.00094023 low: 0.00080585 volume: 1858684 btc: 1582.56985214 [06:51]
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BingoBoingo Sigh... The World Series BitBets can be resolved. [07:15]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [18:09]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [18:09]
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mircea_popescu ahhhh [18:09]
deadweasel thanks bob____ [18:09]
mircea_popescu Perhaps it was the warm desert wind, or the sound of the ocean, but for the first time in many weeks, I slept. [18:09]
mircea_popescu However, the dreams returned, but these were clearly not my own. I beheld a vision of a great man, the mage, Tal Rasha. You were there too Tyrael, I remember seeing you in my dream. [18:09]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKigCcGFyBY [18:10]
ozbot Diablo II Cinematic - Desert Journey - YouTube [18:10]
mircea_popescu kleeck i suspect dragos ruiu is having a nervous breakdown, honestly. [18:11]
mircea_popescu jurov yup s.mpoe divs go out today. [18:12]
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mircea_popescu http://elitedaily.com/news/world/big-butt-healthy-butt-study-says-women-big-butts-healthier/ [18:15]
ozbot A Big Butt Is A Healthy Butt: Women With Big Butts Are Smarter And Healthier | Elite Daily [18:15]
mircea_popescu for whoever had heretical views with regard to box gaps. [18:15]
kleeck mircea_popescu, I'd much rather believe he is going mad than that badBIOS exists. [18:15]
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mircea_popescu well going mad has this irrecoverable air to it. i'm thinking more in terms of, hasn't slept for 16 days, had a lot of coffee, is seeing things. [18:16]
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nubbins` ehh, madness comes and goes [18:17]
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nubbins` at least he didn't say flies poured out of the usb port after unplugging the stick or something [18:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.001099 = 0.2198 BTC [+] [18:19]
kleeck Unfortunately other security experts are confirming that this is all possible... [18:19]
mircea_popescu it IS all possible [18:20]
mircea_popescu just getting very unlikely [18:20]
nubbins` so the idea is that the initial infection, via usb or whatever, sets the groundwork for reinfection via HF audio? [18:20]
deadweasel nope, just 'repair' [18:21]
deadweasel active defesnse [18:21]
nubbins` guy said he flashed his bios and it came back [18:21]
deadweasel I want verification by a non-crackin' up researcher. [18:21]
deadweasel he used an infected USB to get it there? [18:21]
KRS- Mmmm womens butts. [18:21]
deadweasel big healthy ones? [18:21]
KRS- Teh bestest. [18:21]
* nubbins` shrugs [18:21]
nubbins` i don't know wtf people are doing putting USBs into airgapped machines anyway [18:22]
kleeck I think he was testing the transmission from USB [18:22]
mircea_popescu deadweasel well apparently he had it for 1 yr+ he says [18:22]
nubbins` i mean in general [18:22]
deadweasel i'd expect he's been using the same USB, or getting them mixed up, infected, uncleaned. [18:23]
deadweasel doesn't sound like his opsec is executed well. especially in mania. [18:23]
mircea_popescu i think he;'s a little manic atm. guy has been involved in the sort of shit all his life [18:23]
mircea_popescu (he;'s the original; pwn2own organiser) [18:24]
mircea_popescu and i guess he's ended up in this spot where he's dreaming it. [18:24]
mircea_popescu (this, of course, if it actually IS him) [18:24]
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nubbins` turns out he's using a pre-infected version of windows he grabbed from the pirate bay [18:26]
mircea_popescu lol [18:27]
nubbins` i wonder how many people are holding fat bitcoin wallets on pirated OSes? [18:27]
Namworld ... lol [18:27]
Namworld "Imma just put these 2000 BTC on this computer with a pirated Windowz because I'm cheap like that. Where would I get that kind of money to get a license anyway?" [18:29]
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kakobrekla like the license does you any good [18:30]
mircea_popescu contrary to popular belief, most pirate software isn't infected. [18:30]
mircea_popescu also contrary to older but just as popular belief, girls that enjoy sex aren't usually carrying vd. [18:30]
mircea_popescu http://scienceblogs.com/bioephemera/wp-content/blogs.dir/263/files/2012/04/i-930092798b2d8d41546c67e9e3555616-cleanVD.gif [18:31]
mircea_popescu the former is a corporate pr effort. the latter a gov't pr effort. people got interests, yo. [18:31]
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Guest20498 /g/sb g end [18:33]
kleeck wut [18:33]
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bob____ and for the record, 67% of statistics are made up [18:36]
bob____ my friend has a pirated addiction (actual friend, not me). and he always ends up infected. [18:37]
bob____ *pirated software [18:37]
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bob____ so through the power of empirical evidence, a lot of pirated software is infected [18:38]
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kakobrekla keep an unecrpyted wallet with a some change on your computer for early warning system [18:38]
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kakobrekla on a lappy or so [18:39]
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mod6 there's an idea [18:39]
mircea_popescu yep. [18:39]
mircea_popescu security isn't about not being stolen from at all. [18:39]
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asciilifeform the 'badbios' discussion is distinctly 'cryptozoological' in flavour. [18:39]
asciilifeform 'nessie really WAS there! but i, um, forgot my camera.' [18:40]
asciilifeform offered a camera. 'she won't show up on film. magic pixie dust shielding.' [18:40]
bob____ has he started asking for donations yet to support his research? [18:41]
kleeck http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/30/tsmc-shows-production-20nm-16nm-dev-wafers/ [18:42]
ozbot TSMC shows off production 20nm and 16nm dev wafers | SemiAccurate [18:42]
mircea_popescu bitcoin ipo using stolen material from there in 3, 2... [18:42]
kleeck :) [18:42]
asciilifeform bob____: one can get everything needed to verify the claims for < $1k. [18:43]
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Ukto random_cat_: its not that i am not processing things, its that all tickets are being handled in order. and i am trying ot help 2fa resets here in the middle [18:45]
smickles ;;seen usagi [18:46]
gribble usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 14 hours, 57 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: No, but it will go over [18:46]
smickles yup [18:46]
topace SUPERMEGAMININGMEGACORP is pleased to announce our new IPO, to raise $5million dollars to roll out 16nm ASIC MINING in partnership with TSMC. On the 20nm front the wafers are not just in production, there are devices on the market using it that you can buy. No word on the higher performance variants but the SoC process is good to go. 16nm as the label suggests is still in development and that is [18:46]
topace Please your BTC pre-purchase to 1XSUPERMEGAMININGMEGACORP [18:47]
kakobrekla says invalid address. [18:48]
mircea_popescu send it anyway! [18:48]
kakobrekla button is stuck [18:48]
mircea_popescu Ukto 2fa resets are the suck [18:48]
kakobrekla luke, fix it [18:48]
smickles https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/40934-i-want-to-believe-bumper-sticker [18:49]
Ukto mircea_popescu: i have something coming up that will solve the issue. [18:50]
bob____ gpg? [18:51]
Ukto for all users. :P [18:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform bob____ there's such a thing as claim analysis. if you make a claim that has about 10% chances that's a 10% chance. if you make twenty claims each with 10% chances that's 10^-18% [18:51]
Ukto came to a decision on the change over the last few days [18:51]
smickles Ukto: sqrl? [18:51]
Ukto far easier. [18:51]
smickles easier than sqrl? [18:52]
smickles no way [18:52]
Ukto :P [18:52]
Ukto I'll prolly post about it in the next day [18:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my problem is less with the (truly) extraordinary claims, but the complete lack of any sign of a desire to share the extraordinary evidence. [18:52]
Ukto I need a lot less work from things that cost more more than I make. [18:52]
smickles sqrl is like, click a link /snap a photo == securely logged in [18:52]
Ukto to focus on launching the big fish [18:52]
Ukto yes [18:52]
Ukto once you read teh post you will understand why its so simple [18:53]
Ukto and btw, long time no see :P [18:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah. i can see that. [18:53]
smickles o/ [18:53]
Ukto so quiet in here with btct gone -_- [18:53]
bob____ asciilifeform: agreed. me too. [18:53]
asciilifeform a logic analyzer isn't a nuke sub, you don't need to 'live the supernode lifestyle' to buy one. [18:54]
asciilifeform and if you can afford a motorcycle, you can afford an 'ICE.' [18:55]
mircea_popescu i could see a situation where he doesn't know how to use it and doesn't trust anyone to. this situation, obviously, can't stand as an explanation. [18:56]
asciilifeform if i found myself in that position, the last thing i'd do is crow to the media. [18:56]
mircea_popescu exactly. [18:56]
mod6 (09:54) < asciilifeform> a logic analyzer isn't a nuke sub, you don't need to 'live the supernode lifestyle' to buy one. << lol! [18:56]
asciilifeform the fellow is supposed to be something more than a generic nobody [18:57]
asciilifeform but a 'respectable' researcher of some stature [18:57]
mircea_popescu moreover, his various events all relied on relations with people who actually understand compsec. [18:57]
mircea_popescu i find it very difficult to grasp that ruiu suddenly has nobody to turn to. the REAL ruiu that is. [18:57]
nubbins` i, for one, welcome this new fake ruiu [18:58]
nubbins` http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/10/31/1612237/artificial-blood-made-in-romania [18:58]
ozbot Artificial Blood Made In Romania - Slashdot [18:58]
nubbins` pretty sure there's a halloween joke in there somewhere [18:59]
mircea_popescu lol [18:59]
mircea_popescu Babe-Bolyai University in Cluj-Napoca [18:59]
mircea_popescu it's Babes! [18:59]
mircea_popescu ;;google victor babes [18:59]
gribble Victor Babeș - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Victor Babeş University of Medicine and Pharmacy - Wikipedia: ; Victor Babes University of Medicine and Pharmacy Timisoara: [18:59]
mircea_popescu they got the hungarian dood's name right ffs. [18:59]
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mircea_popescu "babe" means hags [19:00]
smickles oh snap, this site just delivered on zero confirms from a tx that was sent from a client 4 weeks out of sync [19:00]
mircea_popescu poor them. prolly nice to drop them an email. [19:00]
nubbins` hags [19:00]
nubbins` any of you guys heard of the "old hag" lore? [19:01]
smickles it's great customer service tho :D [19:01]
nubbins` really big around here [19:01]
mircea_popescu i heard of the concept ? what you mean ? [19:01]
nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Folklore [19:02]
nubbins` i was just reminded of it when you mentioned hags [19:02]
nubbins` i did a folklore course (just one!) in university when we discussed this [19:02]
nubbins` prof says "anyone here been hagged?", 5 hands shoot up [19:02]
mircea_popescu random_cat_ you should try veal tongue [19:02]
nubbins` prof asks one of the 5 to explain what a hagging is [19:02]
nubbins` "now, anyone here been hagged?" 60 hands shoot up [19:02]
mircea_popescu shagged a jag? [19:02]
mircea_popescu the rhyming dictionary would kick ass. "hagged = shagged a jag" [19:03]
nubbins` i think there is a rhyming dictionary [19:03]
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mircea_popescu Scrat: why do they call it world series? only murrica is playing << lol. i once saw briefly on the highway this ad "World Famous X. Best in North Carolina!" [19:06]
mircea_popescu some eatery or something musta been [19:06]
mircea_popescu well this log is too much to read. i hope i didn't miss anything good. [19:07]
nubbins` mostly just a discussion of the melvins [19:07]
Namworld Here's an interesting spam transaction on Silkroad's seized coins address: https://blockchain.info/tx/0e8a3dfd2f734233dd8fceb82a1c0c3a3af0373101dc8f13cf13fb5ff7786f63 [19:08]
nubbins` hahahahahahahahahaha [19:09]
nubbins` amazing [19:09]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:09]
Namworld I've seen worse begging [19:09]
kleeck Someone give that dude a BJCoin. [19:10]
smickles shit [19:10]
nubbins` or at the very least, a masturcoin [19:10]
smickles total receive at the bj-wanter [19:10]
nubbins` masturbit? [19:10]
smickles 844 btc [19:10]
kleeck How cool would it be to have universal prices for sexual favors. No matter the country, one BJCoin would cover it. Oh, colored coins, you cannot come soon enough! [19:11]
mircea_popescu that's nonsense. [19:11]
kleeck "Um excuse me, boy! That's a BJcoin, this is going to cost an AnalCoin!" [19:11]
mircea_popescu if it cost the same in all countries i'd buy a million handpicked chicks and go start a new country where the bj is 10x. [19:12]
kleeck I'd allow it. [19:12]
mircea_popescu problem solved. [19:12]
smickles bj arb [19:12]
kleeck ^ [19:12]
kleeck The free market always finds a way. [19:12]
mircea_popescu you know, a year ago when the something awful muppets were all "o no, bitcoins have no value" [19:13]
mircea_popescu i went "stfu, it's based on blowjobs" [19:13]
mircea_popescu and they got butthurt and banned me [19:13]
smickles lol [19:13]
kleeck lololol [19:13]
smickles silly goons [19:13]
mircea_popescu apparently sa people can't stand the idea of working for a living. [19:13]
kleeck Blowjob backed currency. [19:13]
smickles mircea_popescu: are you against the goons in eve then? [19:13]
kleeck "It's backed by the mouths, cocks, and vajayjays of THE PEOPLE you fascist sluts!" [19:14]
mircea_popescu actually, it's not that they banned me. [19:14]
kleeck SexCoin [19:14]
mircea_popescu they made the proposition that the value of something can rest on sexual favours a bannable offence [19:14]
mircea_popescu then they banned me according to the new regulation. [19:14]
kleeck When my friends are trolling me they call Bitcoin "CrimeCoin" and it's usually after something like the Trendon Shavers arrest, or Silkroad bust. [19:15]
kleeck "Hey man, sorry about your CrimeCoin tanking. Tough luck." [19:15]
smickles ;;ticker [19:16]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 210.10579, Best ask: 212.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.89421, Last trade: 210.08073, 24 hour volume: 7707.41836602, 24 hour low: 204.00000, 24 hour high: 214.47587, 24 hour vwap: 208.55587 [19:16]
kleeck lol [19:16]
kleeck It's not tanking now, smickles. [19:16]
kleeck breathe easy. [19:16]
smickles i usually make a profit when it tanks [19:16]
nubbins` i mentioned to a friend a few months ago that i made a bunch of money buying and selling btc-denominated securities. a couple of days later, he says "did you ever make any more money with that scam after?" [19:16]
mircea_popescu lol [19:17]
nubbins` rather than explain, i just said "yes" [19:17]
mircea_popescu as far as government employees, people on the government dole and unemployable youths are concerned, [19:17]
mircea_popescu this entire "not done by govt = scam" angle won't be hard to push [19:18]
nubbins` y'know, you could draw a venn diagram with those 3 groups and have a sizable common area in the middle [19:19]
mircea_popescu ya think ? [19:19]
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nubbins` 27ZXLq4 [19:21]
ll ;;genrate 40000 [19:21]
nubbins` i mean [19:21]
gribble The expected generation output, at 40000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 390928787.638, is 0.0514576088877 BTC per day and 0.00214406703699 BTC per hour. [19:21]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/27ZXLq4 [19:21]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [19:21]
nubbins` a bit cheeky, maybe, but you get the idea [19:21]
mircea_popescu "unemployable youths"! don't mix my cocksuckers into your ven voodoo [19:22]
nubbins` the area where all 3 interesect is called "paid work terms" [19:22]
ll ;;genrate 400000 [19:22]
gribble The expected generation output, at 400000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 390928787.638, is 0.514576088877 BTC per day and 0.0214406703699 BTC per hour. [19:22]
nubbins` consider the diagram suitably amended [19:23]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3450930#msg3450930 [19:23]
ozbot Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest [19:23]
nubbins` heh, saw that [19:23]
nubbins` i think the take-away is that mp == goat [19:23]
mircea_popescu it's funny tho, because she has a point. [19:23]
mircea_popescu every summer to date there was a hot company that passed s.mpoe [19:24]
mircea_popescu by autumn it was done [19:24]
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mircea_popescu basically, a bunch of btc finance is powered by summer vacation. [19:24]
mircea_popescu kids get all excited in may, invest their allowance, dream about how they'll be rich "in the future" = next week, and how they'll start a family with beck tatcher down the aisle [19:24]
mircea_popescu also next week. [19:24]
mircea_popescu then school starts, another year of toil, summer dreams and hopes dashed on the jagged shore of reality [19:25]
mircea_popescu and so it goes. [19:25]
mircea_popescu i wonder what 2014's mayfly will be. [19:25]
nubbins` i've got a reasonable guess [19:26]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/medical-marijuana-spinoff-firms-look-to-cash-in-on-new-rules-1.2125330 [19:26]
ozbot Medical marijuana spinoff firms look to cash in on new rules - Canada - CBC News [19:26]
nubbins` 450,000 med pot users in canada by 2024. that's billions in revenue every year even at bargain-basement prices [19:30]
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mircea_popescu baby, if it's legal it won't be 1/4 mn. [19:31]
mircea_popescu it will be 5mn or some shit. ppl will move to canada just for this. [19:32]
mircea_popescu they don't have a job anyway, might as well live somwehre da police ain't husslin them for pot. [19:32]
bob____ summer in the northern hemisphere or southern? [19:33]
nubbins` of course, whenever full legalization comes around, there will already be a massive, massive legal growing industry already in place [19:33]
nubbins` interesting times ahead [19:33]
KRS- omg smoking cigarettes while on blood pressure meds is giving me a helluva buzz..this should be illegal =D [19:34]
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nubbins` unauthorized mental state [19:34]
KRS- right [19:34]
nubbins` try taking altitude-sickness drugs and having a beer. [19:34]
nubbins` 0/10, would not do again [19:35]
KRS- haha ok when i get bored and im out of drugs i will [19:35]
nubbins` "why are my hands vibrating?" followed by "and my arms", followed a few minutes later by "oh fuck now it's in my face, i need to lie down" [19:35]
KRS- HAHA sounds like fun [19:36]
nubbins` they really weren't joking with the "do not take with alcohol" sticker on the bottle [19:36]
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mircea_popescu i never take shit you can't take with alcohol. [19:36]
mircea_popescu fucking poisonous [19:36]
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nubbins` ;;ud blow stamps [19:38]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blow+stamps | low Stamp noun. /blō•stamp/ 1. A LEET-ish speak word for 'bitcoin' accidentally coined by a 94-year-old grandmother on October 29, 2013. [19:38]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: blow stamps [19:38]
nubbins` ^ some kid on reddit who bought his grandma some btc a few years ago [19:39]
nubbins` "how are my blow stamps doing?" [19:39]
nubbins` lel [19:39]
mircea_popescu how is this in the ud [19:39]
* nubbins` shrugs [19:39]
nubbins` the free piece of shit dictionary that anyone can edit [19:39]
mircea_popescu o o i c :d [19:40]
Namworld [13:34] unauthorized mental state [19:43]
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Namworld You dislike the government. That's an unauthorized mental state that leads to chaos. stop right this instant lest you want to be corrected with these correctional instruments. [19:43]
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smickles ^gold [19:44]
nubbins` rhetoric aside, that's exactly what it is [19:44]
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nubbins` it's even more bizarre when you consider that there's a legal medical marijuana industry in canada [19:45]
nubbins` "this is okay for sick people to smoke, but if healthy people smoke it, terrible things will happen" [19:45]
nubbins` glossing over the fact that the majority of adult canadians have, at some point in their lives, smoked pot [19:45]
nubbins` there's a guy here in my town that runs a massive hydroponic lettuce operation, i wonder if he's been eyeing these new regulations [19:49]
smickles sounds like an easy transition [19:49]
nubbins` well, yes. smart guy, he rented out part of his building to a laundromat and captures their waste heat to keep the grow areas warm [19:50]
smickles damn [19:50]
Namworld genius [19:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 676 @ 0.00108245 = 0.7317 BTC [-] {5} [19:56]
mircea_popescu if i were the laundromat i'd sue. [19:57]
mircea_popescu he can settle out of court and that way i don't have to go through discovery. [19:57]
nubbins` sue on what grounds [19:58]
mircea_popescu unjust enrichment. [19:59]
nubbins` shrug, pretty sure they came to a mutual agreement [19:59]
mircea_popescu or that. [19:59]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P200T] 180 @ 0.55541669 = 99.975 BTC [+] [20:07]
mircea_popescu 100 on red! [20:08]
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smickles $avg [20:10]
mpexbot smickles: 199.80 [20:10]
bob____ insane [20:10]
bob____ break-even is what, 90? [20:10]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 200 / 1.555 [20:12]
gribble 128.617363344 [20:12]
mircea_popescu breakeven is around what it was a month ago [20:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 130.69702147 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 26 satoshi per share [20:14]
mircea_popescu did i fuck it up again ? [20:14]
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mircea_popescu ono! [20:29]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [20:47]
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KRS- Hi =D [20:49]
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mircea_popescu http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2100-6/photos/1372043247-femen-group-hold-protest-rio-de-janeiro-against-sex-tourism_2187786.jpg [20:52]
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mircea_popescu http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=54411:we-want-answers-why-were-msian-students-forced-into-sex-work-in-australia [20:57]
ozbot WE WANT ANSWERS Why were M'sian students forced into sex work in Australia? [20:57]
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kleeck Anyone here know what a ball park for how many chips to expect in a "Test batch"? [21:08]
dexX7 3 [21:08]
dexX7 max 4 :p [21:08]
kleeck Anyone else... [21:08]
kleeck :P [21:08]
dexX7 haha [21:08]
kleeck Is it in the hundreds? thousands? [21:08]
kleeck I just don't know. [21:08]
mircea_popescu kleeck whose test batch ? [21:08]
kleeck In general. [21:08]
mircea_popescu there is no in general eh ? [21:09]
kleeck So it varies based on fab? [21:09]
mircea_popescu one wafer is usually a reasonable way to go about test chips, but depends how many chips you cut to the wafer. [21:09]
kleeck Gotcha [21:09]
mircea_popescu well yes, it varies on the chip, tyhe fab, who's doing it etc. [21:09]
kleeck wafer is a good point. [21:09]
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mircea_popescu yes, as a rule of tumb. but maybe you tacked your test run into an incomplete other wafer. [21:10]
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mircea_popescu people do this all the time. whether they be students getting a freebie or a corp dept piggubacking on another's job. [21:11]
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kleeck I see. [21:11]
mircea_popescu you could also be big enough to cut 12 test wafers cause you need a lot of tests. [21:11]
kleeck So is this normally negotiated with the fab? [21:11]
mircea_popescu it's just a term with no direct meaning. depends what whoever said it meant. [21:11]
mircea_popescu like "pretty" [21:12]
kleeck Heh. [21:12]
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kleeck Gotcha. That gives me some clarity. [21:12]
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jurov http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/ omfg so it uses ultrasound now? [21:22]
kleeck Hah. You missed our talk about #badBios earlier, Jurov. I too was lamenting it's beauty. [21:23]
mircea_popescu jurov it also uses our collective sisters to spread by now. [21:24]
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jcpham the only way to stop it is toput duct tape over your speakers [21:24]
deadweasel 'Our Collective Sisters' sounds like an Emo band. [21:24]
mircea_popescu actually it does huh. [21:25]
deadweasel it's a little too incestual for me tho.. [21:27]
deadweasel sounds like we're sharing our sisters, which I would never do. SHE'S ALL MINE.... [21:27]
deadweasel oops, wait.. [21:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056979 = 0.1481 BTC [-] [21:28]
mircea_popescu lol [21:30]
mircea_popescu i'd share your sister [21:30]
mircea_popescu with all my friends. [21:30]
deadweasel You would, she's fine. But she'll kick your ass if you disrespect her. I taught her well. [21:31]
deadweasel i'm not sure if gang-bangs fall under the heading of 'dis-respect' for her, but I would guess so. [21:32]
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kleeck pics deadweasel. [21:33]
kleeck now pics [21:34]
kleeck pics, do it [21:34]
kleeck post them [21:34]
kleeck now [21:34]
kleeck do it [21:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1204 @ 0.00109547 = 1.3189 BTC [+] {4} [21:35]
kleeck Well, well, well. It wasn't India after all: http://www.csiro.au/Portals/Media/Bats-confirmed-as-SARS-origin.aspx [21:35]
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pankkake +1 for pics [21:36]
kleeck oh yea. [21:36]
kleeck sorry. [21:36]
kleeck was distracted by science. [21:36]
kleeck PICS deadweasel ! [21:36]
kleeck NOW [21:36]
kleeck DO IT [21:36]
kleeck Don't delay. [21:36]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:36]
pankkake unless she's too old [21:36]
kleeck Yeah. if she's old photoshop the wrinkles out first. [21:37]
kleeck Then post it. [21:37]
kleeck DO IT [21:37]
kleeck now. [21:37]
kleeck Show us [21:37]
jcpham boobs! [21:41]
jcpham boobs out, shoe on head or didn't happen [21:41]
kleeck faggets? [21:42]
kleeck uh-oh [21:43]
kleeck assets is turning into 4-chan... ITS HAPPENING [21:43]
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deadweasel Boy, I'm glad I returned... [21:46]
deadweasel here come pics [21:46]
deadweasel http://www.goatse.fr/# [21:46]
ozbot Eh [21:46]
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deadweasel ok, i'm off the clock, enjoy! [21:47]
pankkake but not off the cock [21:47]
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Namworld I'm dizzy... [21:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+] [21:51]
Namworld I hope they get one of those needless blood sugar tester out there and working for an affordable price. [21:52]
mircea_popescu what are they now, 5 btc ? [21:53]
Namworld Actually they're probably available and cheap now. [21:53]
Namworld Not that I require one, but it would be nice. [21:53]
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KRS- should be free [21:59]
Namworld Looks like it's still not available [21:59]
Namworld Since I'm in Canada, it probably is for people that requires it. No clue. [22:00]
nubbins` how do you test your blood w/o a needle? [22:01]
Namworld Some companies are getting close apparently. It's getting more accurate. [22:02]
jurov bah, just taste it how sweet it is [22:02]
Namworld Through light or something, and infering glucose content from that. I forgot how they do it. [22:03]
jurov they measure refractive index [22:03]
nubbins` ah [22:04]
nubbins` like you just point it at your skin? [22:04]
nubbins` still confused [22:04]
jurov dunno how the needleless ones work [22:04]
Namworld No idea, there's no such device out yet. [22:05]
mircea_popescu jurov i was gonna say, "just have your gf taste your pee" [22:05]
mircea_popescu but then i abstained. [22:05]
mircea_popescu meanwhile back at the fde camp, [22:06]
mircea_popescu http://www.h-online.com/security/features/Enclosed-but-not-encrypted-746199.html [22:06]
ozbot Enclosed, but not encrypted - The H Security: News and Features [22:06]
jurov so what,one has to diy everything... that reminds me i should find or made myself a fkn serial cable soon [22:09]
mircea_popescu jurov well... NSA! [22:09]
jurov at least i *hope* serial controller can't be reprogrammed via bios [22:09]
jurov ...er...i mean bios via rs232 [22:10]
asciilifeform jurov: solution: not necessarily DIY, but to use a system that can at least be verified to 'do what it says on the box' [22:10]
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mircea_popescu http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/steal_this_comic.png [22:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00615033 = 0.1845 BTC [-] {3} [22:15]
pankkake http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Fag_6b8dd2_69562.gif [22:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [+] [22:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1425 BTC [-] [22:17]
pankkake http://techfleece.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/piracy-vs-official-movies.jpg [22:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 58 @ 0.00516912 = 0.2998 BTC [-] {5} [22:19]
pankkake my favorite is defitively the fag buys music. buying digital stuff, worse, drmed stuff, should be subject to public humilation [22:19]
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mircea_popescu buying drm stuff indeed. [22:20]
mircea_popescu like, you know, ipads. [22:20]
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pankkake or kindles that have the wonderful feature of remote deletion of books [22:21]
bob____ i feel sad for that 0.1425 btc that just went to CFIG, never to be seen again. [22:22]
ThickAsThieves is CFIG a scam now too? [22:23]
pankkake I wonder why 100 BTC of it was bought last week [22:23]
bob____ the panamian bank that wants to raise a shit ton of money with not much of a plan what to do with it? seems like it to me. [22:24]
mircea_popescu which one is cfig ? [22:24]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.0 [22:24]
ozbot [HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread [22:24]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=141589 [22:26]
ozbot View the profile of Crypto Financial [22:26]
mircea_popescu july 2013 anon forum member starts a bank [22:26]
mircea_popescu a well./ [22:26]
pankkake "Members of this company are currently board members in a Medium size bank in Panama." (well, it might be false) [22:29]
mircea_popescu this vagueness has never went over well. [22:29]
pankkake latest news was "Crypto Financial (CFIG) is pleased to announce that we will begin to accept applications for our Fiduciary Financial Services and Trading Platform during the month of November, 2013." [22:30]
bob____ to stockholders only though. buy your shares quick! [22:30]
bob____ so, to be clear, the fact that they are accepting applications means they have *already* cleared all the regulatory hurdles they said they need to start this real, offical bank. What's the name of that bank again? I suppose I should be able to look it up if its real and regestered and everything. [22:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 691 @ 0.00538615 = 3.7218 BTC [-] {17} [22:34]
bob____ hmm, but i guess development still needs a few months. [22:34]
bob____ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg3344439#msg3344439 [22:34]
ozbot [HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread [22:34]
bob____ but apply now! [22:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00775 = 0.3875 BTC [+] [22:36]
ThickAsThieves Announcing G.ASICMINER, AM100, and TAT.ASICMINER temporary conversion services: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3452278#msg3452278 [22:38]
pankkake G.ASICMINER to AM100. clever :p [22:39]
ThickAsThieves and AM100 to direct (for a fee) [22:39]
pankkake oh, that one is nice [22:40]
bob____ examples are a tad confusing though. if i have 1000 AM100 shares i can't send 1050 to you :) [22:40]
ThickAsThieves hehe [22:41]
ThickAsThieves indeed [22:41]
ThickAsThieves i knew there would be some things i couldnt just say quickly [22:41]
ThickAsThieves but hopefully anyone interested can sort it all out [22:41]
bob____ yeah [22:41]
nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289 [22:42]
ozbot [HAVELOCK] Crypto Currency (CFIG) Official Thread [22:42]
nubbins` re: cfig [22:42]
nubbins` the hilarity of this is that Virtex now offers this exact service [22:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60827151 = 6.0827 BTC [-] {6} [22:43]
nubbins` but with CAD instead of USD [22:43]
nubbins` and, y'know. virtex is real. [22:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.6012 = 9.018 BTC [-] {2} [22:44]
topace nubbins`: what service ? [22:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00775 = 0.775 BTC [+] [22:49]
topace the bank card ? [22:49]
nubbins` yeah [22:49]
topace ah [22:49]
topace but its onyl CAD, though i suppose it would work outside canada as long as its on the "interac" network [22:50]
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topace and the card is only availbale to canadians [22:50]
nubbins` too true, what's the international one? PLUS network or something [22:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 944 @ 0.00020959 = 0.1979 BTC [+] {2} [22:50]
topace i could have done a creditcard for canadianbitcoins 12 months ago [22:51]
topace still could now if i wanted to [22:51]
topace but i decided against it [22:51]
topace becuase the fee's sucked [22:51]
topace $6 load fee, $3/month fee, $1.50 usage fee, $2.00 cash withdrawal fee, etc [22:51]
topace prepaid creditcard that is [22:52]
topace i have a pile of them sitting on my desk still [22:52]
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nubbins` $$$$$ [22:52]
topace they get ya on the fee's [22:52]
topace and i didnt want my customers getting raped up the ass [22:52]
topace so i decided not to do it [22:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 150 @ 0.00073649 = 0.1105 BTC [+] {3} [22:52]
nubbins` yeah, if you're gonna just replicate the bank setup but with BTC backing it, what's the point, right? [22:52]
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nubbins` virtex debit is a bit lighter on fees, but still to steep for me to bother signing up [22:54]
mircea_popescu i knew there would be some things i couldnt just say quickly << maybe offer a cash settlement ? [22:54]
mircea_popescu strictly as a convenience so people d on [22:54]
nubbins` i think the real draw is that it's more convenient than direct deposit for withdrawing your funds [22:54]
mircea_popescu 'rt end up with fractionaries in 50 symbols. [22:54]
mircea_popescu the last 50 can be turned to 0.3btc or w/e. [22:54]
ThickAsThieves the problem is the price is pretty damn volatile right now [22:55]
mircea_popescu well it being a courtesy service, you take a safe margin i guess. [22:55]
ThickAsThieves maybe, i'm just testing this out for now [22:55]
ThickAsThieves already a lot to it and going in [22:56]
ThickAsThieves on [22:56]
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ThickAsThieves i know people have wanted both services for a while [22:56]
ThickAsThieves any service i could offer to buy back odd amounts would surely net the holder less than selling em at market [22:57]
mircea_popescu a, i thought the mkt was closed on that particular symbol. nm. [22:58]
ThickAsThieves for some people (US) it will be closed tomorrow [22:59]
ThickAsThieves I have been selling some people's shares for them, whom didnt want to migrate anywhere [22:59]
ThickAsThieves as unofficial service of sorts [22:59]
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Ademan ThickAsThieves: what will be closed tomorrow? [23:02]
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Ademan oh, btct.co? I thought you meant something would be closed to US customers tomorrow [23:04]
pankkake bitfunder is closed to US on November 1st [23:05]
ThickAsThieves BTCT.co is closing and Bitfunder will disallow selling from US accounts [23:05]
ThickAsThieves Us users can still have accounts on BF til Dec 2nd [23:05]
ThickAsThieves to collect divs or such [23:05]
Ademan Ah, as long as we're not talking about havelock (yet :-( ) [23:06]
pankkake we'll see! http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/ [23:07]
Ademan how do they determine who's in the US anyways? Is it just by access location? [23:09]
Ademan Also a surprising amount of no bets, although Nov 5 is a pretty short timeframe [23:10]
Ademan ThickAsThieves: You manage AM1 on Havelock as well right? Will you be doing PT conversions if that were to happen? [23:10]
Ademan er sorry, direct conversions [23:11]
ThickAsThieves AM1 already allows it [23:11]
ThickAsThieves and i get fresk copies of the shareholder list twice per day [23:12]
ThickAsThieves fresh* [23:12]
Ademan I guess I'd have to just dump all of my AM100 in that case though huh? [23:13]
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Ademan that'll be a great day for international investors at the expense of US ones... [23:14]
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ThickAsThieves well if you choose the specific scenario where you might lose something in some possible future, well, you always lose, no? [23:17]
ThickAsThieves the odds are that given the avenue, things will get sorted [23:18]
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Ademan Are you interested at all in colored coins? [23:36]
dexX7 mastercoin seems to push it forward constantly with new contests and rewards [23:39]
Ademan I want it to work cause I'd love to avoid future exchange closures [23:41]
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pankkake I fail to see how that solves the exchange issues, it looks like just a fancy way of having direct shares [23:42]
Ademan I was about to say heh [23:42]
dexX7 mastercoin has an orderbook based on tx [23:43]
Ademan On the other hand, if an exchange closes where you bought a colored coin based share, you don't have to liquidate it or worry [23:43]
Ademan dexX7: ah awesome, I actually didn't know that [23:43]
mircea_popescu Ademan you are aware mpex is the oldest right ? [23:43]
dexX7 but the concept seems so... wrong :D they use additional outputs to encode data in form of btc addresses, all linked to the exodus address [23:44]
dub -assets don't like no colored nuthin boa [23:44]
dexX7 mp, you should send burnside flowers :p [23:44]
pankkake so you'd have to pay a fee to put an order or cancel one, and wait for it to be included in a block? [23:44]
dub aint yall read mp's blog [23:44]
pankkake sending and trading colored coins on an exchange would make sense. you could get them out when you don't want to trade [23:45]
dexX7 even 2-3x fees. one tx goes to the exodus address to "register" your action, the other one goes into the void and encodes the data and the third one may be used as actual value tranasfer [23:45]
mircea_popescu dub you were the source of much bitctointalk confusion btw. [23:45]
dub orly? [23:45]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3451405#msg3451405 [23:46]
ozbot Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest [23:46]
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Ademan mircea_popescu: I wasn't but why do you mention it? Cause you haven't closed? [23:51]
dub interdasting [23:51]
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mircea_popescu Ademan to help you get some proportion. born a week before bitcoinica. [23:52]
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Namworld It's been one heck of a trip. Mircea now uses BTC as TP. [23:59]
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