Forum logs for 30 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050089 = 1.2021 BTC [-] {2} [00:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00051009 = 22.495 BTC [+] {4} [00:24]
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phf ;;isup files.bitcoin-assets.com [00:40]
gribble files.bitcoin-assets.com is up [00:40]
kakobrekla problem? [00:41]
phf yeah.. not actually getting a connection [00:41]
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kakobrekla did you do a lot of requests? [00:42]
phf from my machine only though. is there some kind of tripwire there? [00:42]
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phf yes [00:42]
kakobrekla triggerhappy banhammer id guess [00:43]
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BingoBoingo jurov 64gb << My node also fine on 8gb 0.7-ish [00:43]
kakobrekla phf static ip? [00:43]
phf kakobrekla: not on my home machine, but if you can write in an exception i have an ip for you [00:44]
kakobrekla i can, pm. [00:44]
phf i patched my script to do HEAD on files to ensure that i'm up to date, probably doing them in loop on the entire set is what triggered [00:46]
kakobrekla a yup. [00:49]
kakobrekla server is still sort of in war mode since the last ddos attacks [00:50]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: hopefully better stuff than murican passports: http://dpaste.com/1102V9J << Editing it nao [00:51]
assbot dpaste: 1102V9J: qntra, by jurov ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmaKmA ) [00:51]
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punkman zaoshang [00:58]
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mod6 trinque, et. al: The updated [version 99997 K] rotot v054-TEST2 (via `V') script: http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt [01:09]
punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-11-2015#1333821 << oh you don't understand, europe is everywhere! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_European_Neighbourhood_Policy_states.svg [01:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmteVM ) [01:09]
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assbot Logged on 30-11-2015 00:12:56; pete_dushenski: (how azerbaijan is in 'europe' is for ecclestone to answer) [01:10]
assbot File:EU European Neighbourhood Policy states.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmtjbW ) [01:10]
trinque mod6: neato! [01:17]
trinque building now [01:17]
BingoBoingo jurov: Published [01:17]
BingoBoingo Added conclusion, made a few other edits [01:18]
deedbot- [Qntra] Recent "SigOp" "Attack" On The Blockchain Or Advanced Power Rangering - http://qntra.net/2015/11/recent-sigop-attack-on-the-blockchain-or-advanced-power-rangering/ [01:18]
mircea_popescu excellent write-up. [01:18]
mircea_popescu thumbsup jurov [01:19]
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mircea_popescu remains staying outside of the Core fork << spurious staying [01:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00050157 = 2.4075 BTC [-] [01:24]
mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ukj2j/balaji_s_srinivasan_on_twitter_the_day_is_coming/ <<< in other news anon redditards write whitepapers about trilema, forget to mention it's about trilema. [01:28]
assbot Balaji S. Srinivasan on Twitter: The day is coming when Google must bulk purchase Bitcoin to crawl the machine-payable web : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1XChT2Y ) [01:28]
mod6 thanks trinque, let me know how it goes. [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00051009 = 3.3666 BTC [+] {2} [01:31]
punkman http://i.imgur.com/UkGnUE3.gif [01:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmvrAn ) [01:31]
BingoBoingo fxd [01:32]
phf punkman: looks like a neti pot alternative for BingoBoingo [01:33]
BingoBoingo Nope. Doesn't involve nearly enough chemicals. [01:34]
BingoBoingo And my nose doesn't need to identify as transJewMayoQueer [01:35]
punkman tramazoline hydrochloride and dexamethasone is a good combination [01:36]
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mircea_popescu whenever trinque is the 2nd word in a sentence my latin parser kids in [01:37]
mircea_popescu and i go &trin... wait, wut ? [01:37]
punkman http://www.centralbank.org.bb/news/article/8827/should-cryptocurrencies-be-included-in-the-portfolio-of-international-reserves [01:40]
mircea_popescu i hope they come up with "yes" as the answer. [01:42]
punkman they did [01:42]
mircea_popescu seeing how the only question is "what fraction of bitcoin reserves is safe to be kept as fiat" [01:43]
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BingoBoingo punkman: Isn't dexamethasone the bad kind of steroid? [01:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14392 @ 0.0005018 = 7.2219 BTC [-] {3} [01:49]
punkman BingoBoingo: no idea, but best unclogger I can get locally [01:50]
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* BingoBoingo suspects cocaine would be surpremely effective, but the whole sobriety thing [01:53]
trinque nah, coke boogers [01:54]
phf that's why you disolve it an alcohol and drink [01:55]
punkman re: irc threads, suppose we had a client that merge multiple channels into a single stream [01:55]
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punkman also, anyone remember google wave [01:57]
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BingoBoingo phf: Or saline to spray [01:58]
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BingoBoingo !up jurov [02:01]
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punkman http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html there really is a XEP for everything. [02:02]
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assbot XEP-0201: Best Practices for Message Threads ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7vPkN ) [02:02]
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BingoBoingo punkman: Only through XML does a line of text become a "stanza" [02:13]
punkman indeed [02:13]
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trinque mod6: built nicely and munching blocks [02:45]
trinque very nice :) [02:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4037 @ 0.00050364 = 2.0332 BTC [+] [02:46]
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punkman "2001: Goat set on fire on 23 December by Lawrence Jones, a 51-year-old visitor from Cleveland, Ohio in the United States, who spent 18 days in jail and was subsequently convicted and ordered to pay 100,000 Swedish kronor in damages. The court confiscated Jones' cigarette lighter with the argument that he clearly was not able to handle it. Jones stated in court that he was no "goat burner", [02:57]
punkman and believed that he was taking part in a completely legal goat-burning tradition. After Jones was released from jail he went straight back to the US without paying his fine. As of 2006 it was still unpaid." [02:57]
punkman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat [02:58]
assbot Gävle goat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVoNkF ) [02:58]
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fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxNbGvNamY&feature=youtu.be [03:21]
assbot Lovesong for Satoshi Nakamoto Whitepaper (Taylor Swift: Everything Has Changed Parody) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVpURb ) [03:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3913 @ 0.00050364 = 1.9707 BTC [+] [04:31]
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mircea_popescu wtf is a xep [04:36]
punkman http://i.imgur.com/DKEdgAH.jpg hot farmer from teh island spotted in protests, chased by journo/twitter-tards with modeling offers [04:41]
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assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYXY9k ) [04:42]
mircea_popescu lol [04:42]
punkman http://www.enikos.gr/data/photos/462f3f1313efae44b41ec9456389e309.jpg oh I guess had to give them something [04:43]
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assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYY2Gf ) [04:43]
punkman but said on tv he'd rather live with teh animals [04:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0005077 = 2.9954 BTC [+] [04:46]
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mircea_popescu deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1A42V7Q.txt [04:52]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [04:52]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MYYHXY ) [04:52]
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mircea_popescu in other lulz, https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/29/the-nsa-will-stop-collecting-your-phone [05:03]
assbot The NSA Will Stop Collecting Your Phone Metadata Tonight! - Hit & Run : Reason.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1lTBi3w ) [05:03]
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mircea_popescu "Mr. Paul has made his opposition to the Patriot Act a key plank of his 2016 White House campaign and argued that the program hasn’t foiled a specific terrorist plot. [05:07]
mircea_popescu Obama administration officials don’t dispute that, but say it has helped connect the dots on potential threats." [05:07]
mircea_popescu "it doesn't do anything useful" "yes but we're women, we like make-up" [05:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6156 @ 0.0005077 = 3.1254 BTC [+] [05:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3412 @ 0.0005101 = 1.7405 BTC [+] [05:55]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for your consideration http://dpaste.com/14EM572 [05:59]
assbot dpaste: 14EM572 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPokwH ) [05:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.0005073 = 7.3051 BTC [-] {2} [06:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7319 @ 0.00050601 = 3.7035 BTC [-] [06:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6636 @ 0.0005101 = 3.385 BTC [+] [06:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10078 @ 0.0005101 = 5.1408 BTC [+] [06:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9277 @ 0.00050197 = 4.6568 BTC [-] {2} [06:59]
adlai !isup mpex.ws [06:59]
adlai ;;isup mpex.ws [06:59]
gribble mpex.ws is up [06:59]
adlai byzantine dns are the best failures [07:00]
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punkman I was reading more about cjdns yesterday, anyone here run a node? [07:12]
punkman !s cjdns [07:12]
assbot 12 results for 'cjdns' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cjdns [07:12]
punkman trying to figure out which parts are stupid, I'm still wondering why this thing has passwords [07:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00050044 = 2.6023 BTC [-] [07:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00050041 = 2.2769 BTC [-] [07:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2023 @ 0.00050078 = 1.0131 BTC [+] [07:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20877 @ 0.0005101 = 10.6494 BTC [+] [07:43]
punkman ah of course https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/bugs/black-hole.md [07:45]
assbot cjdns/black-hole.md at master · cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IjmzZO ) [07:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00050041 = 3.0775 BTC [-] [07:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00049969 = 7.0456 BTC [-] {2} [07:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.0005005 = 3.5285 BTC [+] [08:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12654 @ 0.0004988 = 6.3118 BTC [-] {2} [08:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9631 @ 0.0004978 = 4.7943 BTC [-] [08:47]
punkman http://imgur.com/gallery/5B2gM [08:48]
assbot These abandoned Yugoslavian monuments look like alien relics - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1jtg1Mu ) [08:48]
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punkman http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34945756 [09:27]
assbot Campaigners target online trolls by putting their comments on billboards - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDtXkU ) [09:27]
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punkman ;;ticker [10:45]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 377.68, Best ask: 378.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.32000, Last trade: 378.03, 24 hour volume: 46799.13590388, 24 hour low: 361.3, 24 hour high: 384.99, 24 hour vwap: None [10:45]
punkman http://www.welivesecurity.com/2015/11/27/online-payment-trends/ [10:47]
assbot Russians embrace Bitcoins, the West sticks with PayPal ... ( http://bit.ly/1XrFhFC ) [10:47]
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davout ;;isup mpex.co [11:09]
gribble mpex.co is up [11:09]
davout $proxies [11:09]
punkman coinbr seems stuck too [11:11]
davout yeah gribble is lying [11:17]
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mircea_popescu so : the new proxy list is http://mpex.biz/ ; http://mpex.co/ ; http://mpex.re/ ; http://mpex.site/ [12:41]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmWjo ) [12:41]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmYI4 ) [12:41]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUmYYF ) [12:41]
mircea_popescu they all currently work, ill add some redirects from .the abandoned domains [12:41]
mircea_popescu !v ascii_field [12:44]
assbot Invalid verfication string. [12:44]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [12:44]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [12:45]
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ascii_field danke mircea_popescu. mega-ddos on this side of the sea [12:45]
ascii_field (or possibly eveywhere) [12:45]
mircea_popescu yeah there's some turmoil. [12:45]
ascii_field freenode mostly dead afaik [12:45]
mircea_popescu davout gribble is not lying! [12:50]
davout let's say gribble and i had our own individual reality perceptions [12:52]
mircea_popescu not so surprising [12:53]
mircea_popescu and speaking of alternate reality perceptions : both namecheap and internet.bs THINK they hold the registration of qntra.net currently. [12:53]
mircea_popescu which makes about as much sense as anything to do with dns, really. [12:54]
mircea_popescu anyone see namecheap on the qntra.net whois for my curiosity ? [12:54]
mircea_popescu (Registrar: ENOM, INC. as for some reason the derps don't use their own license) [12:55]
shinohai Why all the hate on freenode suddenly? [12:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.0005065 = 6.1287 BTC [+] {2} [13:08]
trinque shinohai: could be just ddosing for teh lulz [13:08]
shinohai I forget it is holiday season and skiddies are home from skool. [13:09]
mircea_popescu i dunno that such a thing matters anymore. that was more of a consideration in the 90s, back when there existed some sort of school discipline. [13:12]
* shinohai sheds a tear for the 90's anyway. [13:13]
ascii_field aha, 90s, when a few things still kinda worked [13:14]
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trinque could smell the desperation in the air growing up in the 90s [13:28]
deedbot- [Qntra] Clinton Found A Turkey! - http://qntra.net/2015/11/clinton-found-a-turkey/ [13:29]
trinque substituting the dot-com bubble in industry's place was the loudest admission of "we have nothing left to say" we could've made [13:30]
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mircea_popescu trinque there's films from the late 70s and all through the 80s going "hey, us better shape up or we're fucked" [13:43]
mircea_popescu those people retired, their kids grew up with this "if i don't look uner the bed there's no bugaboo there" outlook on life and everything. [13:43]
mircea_popescu so they didn't look under the bed. [13:44]
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deedbot- [Trilema] Paradigm shit! - http://trilema.com/2015/paradigm-shit/ [13:48]
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trinque of course there's no bugaboo; after all, this is only an american dream [13:53]
mircea_popescu depends. if you don't look, there is. [13:55]
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shinohai http://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2015/11/30/racist-trolls-are-being-shamed-with-billboards-showing-their-abusive-messages-near-their-homes/ <<< keks ? [14:03]
assbot Racist trolls are being shamed with billboards showing their messages ... ( http://bit.ly/1LIUGFo ) [14:03]
mircea_popescu except the name and photo is blurred [14:05]
mircea_popescu so "imaginary inexistent problems are being advertised into existence" [14:06]
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BingoBoingo http://thecodelesscode.com/case/216 [15:03]
assbot The Codeless Code: [15:03]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: how would you have designed the "securing of bitcoin-gold" differently from the current mining scheme? [15:04]
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mircea_popescu i have no idea. [15:17]
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kakobrekla http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/medium/m_137739.webm [16:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoyKXN ) [16:11]
* phf should try this it at a towncenter skating rink [16:16]
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-assbot- You voiced epscy for 30 minutes. [16:24]
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pete_dushenski http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/30/us-imf-china-idUSKBN0TJ24Q20151130 [16:30]
assbot IMF gives China's currency prized reserve asset status [16:30]
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ben_vulpes sink or swim together [16:34]
pete_dushenski stop-gap to bitcoin holdings [16:34]
pete_dushenski a la bahamas [16:34]
pete_dushenski the great glorious excellent nation of bahamas : the world leader in yeswecan to an extent and degree unmatched by that 2008 u.s. campaigner who illegally infringed upon that great glorious excellent nation's copyright. [16:37]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes one obvious approach is, fixed rate inflation, rather than decaying inflation. each block reward is say 1/10k the current monetary base. [16:38]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.01 ^ (365 * 24 * 6) [16:38]
gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. [16:38]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.01 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:38]
gribble 135333718752523466540573106042628432055911602460618903710704269253995023846817750502886890076312566572898099093916102382877626934526614405069286742417062776649301025325594853915948015903010075829150673448663250840479675447246848 [16:38]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.0001 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:39]
gribble 191.662730907 [16:39]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.00003 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:39]
gribble 4.83933032461 [16:39]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.000013 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:39]
gribble 1.98035388537 [16:39]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.0000023 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:39]
gribble 1.12849835657 [16:39]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.00000019 ** (365 * 24 * 6) [16:39]
gribble 1.01003642953 [16:39]
mircea_popescu alright, so each block reward is say 17/100000000 of the total monetary base. [16:40]
mircea_popescu seeing how historically, inflation between .5 and 1% a year seems to correlate with a maximum on the wealth creation graph. [16:40]
mircea_popescu (inflation has important implications in dampening the generational conflict, see http://trilema.com/2015/the-rainmaker/#footnote_1_63948 etc) [16:43]
assbot The Rainmaker on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TgyW9A ) [16:43]
mircea_popescu the other obvious approach is probably at the root of the "proof of stake" retardedness. [16:43]
mircea_popescu neither of these seems to work well even theoretically, let alone the practical mess they entail. it is probable an alternative interpretation of reality through the bitcoin twisted mirror actually exists, but i'm not where i can see it. [16:44]
mircea_popescu !v ascii_field [16:45]
assbot Invalid verfication string. [16:45]
mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [16:45]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [16:45]
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mircea_popescu da fuck [16:45]
ascii_field fingers have will of their own, eh [16:47]
mircea_popescu fixated on this !v thing today [16:48]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: possibly i'm thick, but i don't see how inflation is a pill against miner defection [16:48]
ascii_field they get moar coin, yes, continuing reward, but of a ~fundamentally shittier~ coin [16:48]
mircea_popescu you understand that the bitcoin (holder, miner) set is an exact translation of the irl (old fart, young cock) set yes ? [16:48]
ascii_field aha [16:48]
ascii_field where i lose the mental thread is the part where this is somehow curable [16:49]
mircea_popescu inflation is a transfer of wealth from old to young, to mirror the transfer of relevancy. [16:49]
ascii_field i don't see it [16:49]
mircea_popescu absent this, the society cycles, with old schmucks masskilled periodically. [16:49]
ascii_field this i also don't see - where i live, inflation is mainly a hammer keeping young schmucks down [16:49]
ascii_field (old farts invest in things) [16:49]
ascii_field young - gets fixed salary which inflates (and shrinkflates!) away [16:49]
mircea_popescu yes, it would encourage holders of btc to also hold miners./ [16:50]
ascii_field quickly enough to see with naked eye [16:50]
mircea_popescu note, i did not for a second propose these are good, or even above 0 solutions. they are not. [16:50]
mircea_popescu but i was discussing obvious translations from irl to btc. [16:50]
ascii_field ah [16:50]
mircea_popescu he asked me how i'd do it. i said i have nfi. [16:50]
mircea_popescu i then looked into the obvious, and the obvious obviously doesn work. [16:50]
ascii_field btc is an interesting thing imho in a good part ~because~ it specifically refrained from trying to solve this [16:51]
mircea_popescu quite possibly. [16:51]
mircea_popescu hence my comment comparing to a holywood star. it wasn't idle words. [16:51]
mircea_popescu the key advantage of fiction is that it's not required to tell any part of the story it doesn't want to. [16:52]
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mircea_popescu notably enough, [16:55]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 17000000 * 0.00000017 [16:55]
gribble 2.89 [16:55]
mircea_popescu by this formula current btc inflation is almost 10x as high as it should be. [16:56]
pete_dushenski ha one man's model vs. the market [16:58]
pete_dushenski who invited all the economists ! [16:58]
mircea_popescu which kinda is why the discussion was about a time far, far away. four to five halvings into the future this matter becomes important. [16:58]
mircea_popescu because once that magical line is crossed, we'll start seeing cycling behaviour. [16:59]
pete_dushenski cycling to altchains ? [17:00]
ben_vulpes if the market can algorithmically price inflation in though, does the notion of inflation even make sense? [17:00]
ben_vulpes yes the monetary base is changing in size, but we all know to what degree. [17:00]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: generational cycling [17:01]
pete_dushenski aha. [17:01]
mircea_popescu what do you mean "can algorithmically price" and what do you mean make sense ? [17:03]
mircea_popescu and, notably, we don't even know generational re-bitcoin is actually such a bad idea. it's true that some, few and far between, old people have relevancy for young people, and that a minority of teens will gladly spread for a VERY thin minority of "come see my new movie. with catherine zeta jones. raaa!" [17:08]
ben_vulpes well i know that i own m/n of the monetary supply today, and m/n+whatever at t sub whatever in the future [17:09]
mircea_popescu but that doesn't mean that bulk and wholesale old people have anything to trade with young people, or vice-versa. [17:09]
mircea_popescu so heck, maybe a new bitcoin every ~30 years is actually the correct state. [17:09]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ok... ? [17:09]
ben_vulpes nah, this ain't cooked yet. [17:09]
ben_vulpes might not be cookable. [17:09]
pete_dushenski "Now that my fellow executives and I are goddamn beverage conquistadors, we’re going to enjoy this cocaine-fueled rocket ride for as long as it lasts. I’m blasting off to fucking Mars, dicksuckers, and I’m headed straight through the belly of the goddamn sun!" << obligatory, if indeed it's the case that 30 years is the best case (or ideal case) scenario for the time alloted us. [17:11]
pete_dushenski as seen in www.contravex.com/2014/09/25/we-gon-party-like-its-19-hold-up-it-is/ [17:11]
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mircea_popescu anyway, not so sure the brief post ww2 experience of the us bovines has or should have much place in this conversation. [17:15]
mircea_popescu it's true that young kids in the us aren't qualified to be toddlers, and it's true that as a result they sheepishly accept salaries that are a decaying joke. [17:16]
mircea_popescu this onlyt happens because the old farts feel safe, and they feel safe because the kids aren't alright, not by a damn sight. [17:16]
mircea_popescu but this is also typical of terminal empires, so in my view the whole experience of the united states can be simply >/dev/null [17:16]
mircea_popescu for the needs of this conversation, as well as so many others. [17:17]
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BingoBoingo Update: "Police say a man, 60, confronted the boy and two other juveniles in a rear alley..." "Police sought charges against the man Sunday" http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/boy-fatally-shot-in-st-louis-while-stealing-from-car/article_252388c0-9390-5b72-8a27-aab5c3249055.html [17:22]
assbot Boy, 13, fatally shot in St. Louis while stealing from car, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lqu1YA ) [17:22]
mircea_popescu heh [17:23]
BingoBoingo goes with [17:25]
BingoBoingo !s chuck norris rule [17:25]
assbot 0 results for 'chuck norris rule' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=chuck+norris+rule [17:25]
BingoBoingo http://takimag.com/article/old_white_guys_and_the_chuck_norris_rule_david_cole/print [17:25]
assbot Old White Guys and the Chuck Norris Rule - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1lquhqv ) [17:25]
BingoBoingo Apparently USia is turning into country for nobody but old men [17:29]
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pete_dushenski "Trump was taking Obama to task for his past remarks that global climate change is one of the greatest threats facing the United States and the world. "I think one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard in politics -- in the history of politics as I know it, which is pretty good, was Obama's statement that our No. 1 problem is global warming,"" [17:31]
pete_dushenski ""I think it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen, or perhaps most naïve," Trump said. "He actually is somewhat naïve, if you want to know the truth, beyond the incompetent part."" [17:32]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Two Cans And String Support XTCoin Revival - http://qntra.net/2015/11/two-cans-and-string-support-xtcoin-revival/ [17:45]
pete_dushenski ^source, BingoBoingo ? [17:46]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: social media chatter [17:46]
pete_dushenski o.O [17:47]
BingoBoingo reddit and Ver's "Bitcoin.com" [17:47]
pete_dushenski looks like 'someone claiming to be ceo claims that xxx will be supported on such and such a date. maybe. if we/they/someone gets around to it" [17:48]
pete_dushenski s/'/" [17:48]
BingoBoingo Well, hard to trust signal fidelity with two cans and a string [17:49]
mircea_popescu lol [17:53]
* mircea_popescu likes the last few qntra days. [17:53]
mircea_popescu quantrum leap! [17:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 376 @ 0.0027356 = 1.0286 BTC [-] {12} [17:54]
BingoBoingo seriously [17:54]
BingoBoingo Very good month, but trending better all month too [17:54]
mircea_popescu incidentally, that takimag is not bad, and taki himself is historically pretty close to sanity. [17:55]
mircea_popescu anyone sent him a line, maybe he wants a weekly column in qntra ? [17:55]
BingoBoingo Mebbe princessnell can drop a line next time she comes around these parts? [17:56]
BingoBoingo Pretty sure she's written there. [17:57]
mircea_popescu maybe not wait! [17:57]
mircea_popescu adding Ruben Navarrette to the record on http://takimag.com/article/old_white_guys_and_the_chuck_norris_rule_david_cole/ [17:57]
assbot Old White Guys and the Chuck Norris Rule - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nj5kUv ) [17:57]
mircea_popescu gotta know who to kill first, after all. [17:58]
BingoBoingo I also dunno if there is a single taki? Seems to be a variety of bylines [17:58]
mircea_popescu iirc taki theodoracopulos of "of fucking course you can't rape a 16 yo MALE" fame got booted from whatever sharecropping outfit he was working for prior and struck out on his own. [18:00]
BingoBoingo I have no idea how this works [18:00]
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mircea_popescu ie, http://takimag.com/article/once_upon_a_time_on_the_riviera/print#axzz3t0ax9KSA [18:01]
assbot Once Upon a Time on the Riviera - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nj5Amq ) [18:01]
mircea_popescu but in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/5fb1344e33cadb35ef7891b5de5d1d99/tumblr_mgy0t2uxXP1s25aalo1_1280.jpg [18:05]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QQ9Wbs ) [18:05]
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pete_dushenski " They were probably my happiest years ever, as the hotel was THE place to be back before the nouveau riche scum from the Middle East and the old Soviet Union polluted the place beyond repair or redemption. Visit it and weep." ~taki [18:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16583 @ 0.00050818 = 8.4271 BTC [+] [18:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00050591 = 8.1704 BTC [-] {2} [18:55]
pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/11/clinton-found-a-turkey/#comment-79293 [19:02]
assbot Clinton Found A Turkey! | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/21pDBMe ) [19:02]
pete_dushenski lol i too was wondering, "what clinton?" [19:03]
Naphex !rate CoraCrist 3 XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr [19:05]
pete_dushenski http://imgur.com/gallery/uBPCR << and i thought ~for sure~ that this was the 'turkey' in question. [19:05]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7b8f9e6d5332347d [19:05]
assbot Did...did obama just drop the dad joke of 2015? - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/21pDWyA ) [19:05]
Naphex !rated CoraCrist [19:06]
assbot You rated user CoraCrist on 30-Nov-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr. [19:06]
pete_dushenski also, those obama girls dress like fucking slobs omfg. [19:06]
mircea_popescu shitty age. [19:07]
pete_dushenski the president of somalia's daughters are better groomed [19:07]
pete_dushenski and sartorialised [19:08]
mircea_popescu someone explain the joke to me ? [19:08]
mircea_popescu it can't be THAT lame is it ? "oh, turkey don't" ? [19:08]
pete_dushenski it's that presidential pardons are hard to come by. "i haz power u guise!" [19:11]
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mircea_popescu how's that ? [19:13]
pete_dushenski ya, it was actually the flying thing. [19:14]
mircea_popescu jesus give that man a neck pillow [19:16]
mircea_popescu lest he strains himself thinking [19:16]
* pete_dushenski feels sorry for the conpherence attendees who will be subjected to many more such 'jokes' in next decade of bahamas' wooden-tongued speeking toor. [19:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050539 = 3.0829 BTC [-] [19:20]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [19:40]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 378.32, vol: 17642.08042563 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 375.845, vol: 15391.26814 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 379.03, vol: 49742.75049171 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 0.61564048 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 385.443615, vol: 88905.97440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 377.2976, vol: 81.58318412 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 380.412, vol: 142.35726146 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [19:40]
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BingoBoingo ;;more [19:40]
gribble 381.989267053 [19:40]
BingoBoingo !up BashCo [19:40]
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BashCo thanks BingoBoingo. [19:41]
BashCo /r/bitcoin is burning _again_... it's like that 50 year coal fire. [19:41]
BingoBoingo Reddit tends to bring out the social engineers and spammers for sure [19:42]
BingoBoingo !gettrust BashCo [19:43]
assbot BashCo is not registered in WoT. [19:43]
BashCo it's a complete mad house. [19:43]
BashCo sorry, I haven't taken the time to set that stuff up yet. [19:44]
BingoBoingo BashCo: Maybe register with assbot and submit a piece on the reddit tire fire? [19:44]
mircea_popescu ;;google bedbugs are burning [19:45]
gribble Burn, Bed Bugs, Burn!!! - YouTube: ; BURN a bed bug !! - YouTube: ; Bed Bug Bites, Rashes & Symptoms - Orkin: [19:45]
mircea_popescu heh [19:45]
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mircea_popescu the time has come... to pay the rent... [19:46]
mircea_popescu how did that go. [19:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00050794 = 2.8953 BTC [+] [19:48]
mircea_popescu !up BashCo [19:49]
-assbot- You voiced BashCo for 30 minutes. [19:49]
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pete_dushenski !up Garmin [20:11]
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pete_dushenski !up Evolyn [20:11]
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pete_dushenski and who might you two be ? [20:11]
Evolyn thanks [20:12]
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deedbot- [Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), November 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-november-2015-statement/ [20:13]
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pete_dushenski ;;seen diana_coman [20:17]
gribble diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 27 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: it's fun anyway :D [20:17]
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pete_dushenski diana_coman: you're back ! [20:19]
diana_coman I am usually lurking around pete_dushenski [20:19]
diana_coman not really gone, just not talking much [20:19]
diana_coman or rather: talking more in #eulora I suppose [20:19]
pete_dushenski and how goes the back injury recovery process ? [20:19]
diana_coman I think you might be confusing me? [20:20]
diana_coman do you mean chetty perhaps? [20:20]
pete_dushenski hahaha o dear. sorry about that. [20:20]
mircea_popescu ;;google lovelle mixon [20:20]
gribble 2009 shootings of Oakland police officers - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Lovelle Mixon | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers: ; 4 Oakland Police officers shot Suspect Lovelle Mixon killed Breaking ...: [20:20]
pete_dushenski yes, i do mean chetty [20:20]
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pete_dushenski ;;seen chetty [20:20]
gribble chetty was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 59 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: perhaps this will backlash into getting more people off windows ...nah, I dream [20:20]
pete_dushenski it's so hard to keep names straight when there are no faces to match them to... [20:21]
mircea_popescu alternatively, all women are the same woman, eh pete_dushenski ? [20:21]
mircea_popescu i know how it goes with you racists. [20:21]
pete_dushenski well, there's hanbot, who's easy to identify because she's with mp, and there's apparently ALL THE REST [20:22]
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pete_dushenski who, being unattached and not in my wot, are just vaguely ~out there~ [20:22]
diana_coman lol @ "unattached" [20:23]
pete_dushenski ...to someone in the wot ;/ [20:23]
* pete_dushenski is also a huge racialist. [20:23]
pete_dushenski i come from a long line of socialists and racialists. what can i say. [20:26]
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diana_coman well, from my point of view: no harm done at all [20:29]
pete_dushenski :) [20:29]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell trinque could we have http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/ added to deedbot- ? [20:30]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:30]
assbot Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEpG2H ) [20:31]
trinque deedbot-: feeds add http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/ [20:31]
deedbot- http://www.dianacoman.com/feed/ added. [20:31]
assbot Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEpG2H ) [20:31]
trinque pete_dushenski: no problemo [20:31]
pete_dushenski a little more familiarity with diana_coman's writings should help to clarify and solidify the abstractions rolling around in my noodle. [20:31]
pete_dushenski trinque: cheers, you little speed demon ! [20:31]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Yo Moon, Got Phases Nao? - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/29/yo-moon-got-phases-nao/ [20:32]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Foxy’s Little Bots - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/09/30/foxys-little-bots/ [20:32]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Hic Sunt Flotsams on Eulora (Or the Brand New Foxymaps) - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/13/hic-sunt-flotsams-on-eulora-or-the-brand-new-foxymaps/ [20:32]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] The Unbearably Unknown Value of Things in Eulora - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/22/the-unbearably-unknown-value-of-things-in-eulora/ [20:32]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Foxybots v1.2 - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/16/foxybots-v1-2/ [20:32]
deedbot- [Ossasepia] Square Data for a Round World - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/11/24/square-data-for-a-round-world/ [20:32]
trinque someday I'll fix that too, but not today! [20:32]
mircea_popescu not even sure it needs fixing. [20:32]
trinque been a few complaints; I like it as an intro to the feed [20:34]
diana_coman oh my, I might need to actually start writing with any sort of regularity now [20:36]
mircea_popescu lol [20:36]
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pete_dushenski diana_coman: dun worry, folks with families (you, me, davout, ben_vulpes) aren't held to the same publishing frequency standards :P [20:44]
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pete_dushenski speaking of which, deedbot- missed this yesterday in all the ddosage : http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/29/a-decade-ago/ [20:45]
assbot A decade ago… | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1YEqm8f ) [20:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050539 = 4.9276 BTC [-] [20:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28027 @ 0.00050452 = 14.1402 BTC [-] {3} [21:16]
BingoBoingo deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/16KC5X6.txt [21:16]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1l3AOrB ) [21:16]
deedbot- accepted: 1 [21:16]
deedbot- [Qntra] Qntra (S.QNTR) November 2015 Report - http://qntra.net/2015/12/qntra-s-qntr-november-2015-report/ [21:17]
BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/1HkClga.png [21:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1l3BixR ) [21:20]
BingoBoingo https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144891704016647&w=2 [21:37]
assbot 'Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1l3DJRa ) [21:37]
BingoBoingo Ponerty: "I am a one-trick pony; most of you are happy with my trick, so please [21:41]
BingoBoingo don't start a fresh conversation asking me to develop more tricks." https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144892810720198&w=2 [21:41]
assbot 'Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZ7sRM ) [21:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33229 @ 0.00050094 = 16.6457 BTC [-] {3} [21:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00049768 = 1.8519 BTC [-] [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00050016 = 4.5264 BTC [+] [21:54]
pete_dushenski e-mail from private internet access : ""Dear Valued Customer, On November 17, we were privately notified of an IP address leak vulnerability affecting the port forwarding feature of our service. Essentially, anyone connecting to a forwarded port on any of our VPN gateways could have their real IP address leaked to an attacker specifically targeting a PIA user." [22:00]
pete_dushenski " The vulnerability relies on the fact that a direct route exists between the VPN client and server. If the client accesses a forwarded port on the VPN server that is maliciously set up by an attacker, the client will use the direct route using the user's default route, bypassing the VPN entirely." [22:01]
pete_dushenski "Protecting your privacy is our top priority and although exploiting this vulnerability is difficult and requires an attacker to specifically target you, we feel like we let you down with our initial response. Please accept our apologies, we are sorry." [22:03]
pete_dushenski IT'S HUURD. DUN WORRY. BEE HAPPY. (tm) (r) [22:03]
pete_dushenski not like vpn's are good for much but working around paywalls and geo-locationtardation anyways. [22:04]
trinque that'll be my next retort to someone against guns. [22:07]
trinque relax! it's only dangerous if it specifically targets you [22:07]
pete_dushenski lol [22:08]
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pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/12RG4YG.txt [22:53]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XtnNbU ) [22:53]
pete_dushenski and with that, i'm gone with the wind ! ciao ! [22:53]
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BingoBoingo Update: "I was wrong. the CD revenue is far less. The cashier makes more." - Theo de Raadt [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00050783 = 10.9945 BTC [+] [23:07]
deedbot- [Qntra] Italy Misses Terrorists Hits Gamers - http://qntra.net/2015/12/italy-misses-terrorists-hits-gamers/ [23:16]
BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3uwpva/recent_sigop_attack_on_the_blockchain_or_advanced/ [23:37]
assbot Recent "SigOp" "Attack" On The Blockchain Or Advanced Power Rangering : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Th3Sq7 ) [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00050906 = 3.2071 BTC [+] [23:54]
mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000182.html [23:57]
assbot [BTC-dev] The Bitcoin Foundation: STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS ... ( http://bit.ly/1Th51xX ) [23:57]
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