Forum logs for 30 Dec 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/29/report-nsa-intercepts-computer-deliveries/ [05:39]
ozbot Report: NSA Intercepts Computer Deliveries | TheBlaze.com [05:39]
mircea_popescu this just keeps getting better an' better. [05:39]
Duffer1 have you read the der spiegel piece? [05:39]
mircea_popescu yeah. it has little to do with the english summary, but hey [05:40]
Duffer1 ah [05:40]
Duffer1 i wonder if there's a way to edit windows crash reports, send ms and nsa troll reports instead [05:46]
Duffer1 dilythium crystals overloaded [05:47]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: I imagine repurposing a botnet to spam fake, trollish Windows crash reports might be something some sort of activist could be motivated to do if they had a strong desire of being found. [05:49]
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BingoBoingo One of those "You don't have to outrun the bear..." cases, except running into the bear's open arms [05:50]
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Duffer1 ya probably not the smartest thing to do [05:51]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what exactly are they going to do ? arrest the guy for being an asshole ? [05:52]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe? Possibly troll him back. Such an effort might be a heroic waste of NSA and MS time. [05:54]
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BingoBoingo Or some agent could say fuck it and activate the mechanisms leading towards extraordinary rendition to a blacksite and use of Datskovskiy’s soldering iron. Hard to tell what the rogue state will do. [05:56]
BingoBoingo Under other circumstances it might lead to the NSA extending some sort of job offer. [05:57]
mircea_popescu it all sounds like good fun to the average botnet master i'm sure. [05:58]
BingoBoingo Capriciousness of action is part of make a rouge state rogue [05:58]
BingoBoingo Maybe this guy will do it http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/28/233200/convicted-spammer-jeffrey-kilbride-flees-prison [06:00]
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mircea_popescu hahaha [06:01]
BingoBoingo The mindset that leads people to think spamming could be a profitable venture would probably be the sort that could lead someone to think spamming the NSA into thinking "user won Darwin Award" is the most common means by which a Windows system fails [06:04]
BingoBoingo Because the point of collecting the reports is for the juicy dump of data about how a machine is configured. The right way would probably be spamming legit looking reports suggesting people are running WIndows 8.1 on PDP-11s, Vaxen, and other ancient systems [06:07]
mircea_popescu i know someone who redirected his domains to the whitehouse when someone else was trying to ddos him [06:07]
BingoBoingo Lol, Highlights of 2013. [06:07]
mircea_popescu >D [06:07]
BingoBoingo I wonder what ways Bitcoin will be probed in 2014. Bigger DDoS attacks? BitBet being defaced? The IRS accepting pankkake's altcoin? [06:10]
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Duffer1 pankakke's alt? [06:11]
mircea_popescu i think we're way past probing [06:12]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile at the "let's mock retards department", http://trilema.com/2013/queers/ [06:32]
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Bugpowder Anyone have a link to a good discussion of master coin benefits and valuation potential? [06:44]
BingoBoingo Bugpowder: Was there ever a good discussion of mastercoin that ended up supposing benefits, valuation potention, or some combination of both in the end? [06:46]
Bugpowder I don't know. I'm totally out of the loop on it. What do you think? [06:46]
BingoBoingo Bugpowder: Basically mastercoin is this colored coins idea but the developer found a way to try colored coins that involved "Send me your coins and I will make this thing" [06:48]
Bugpowder Then it might actually get made! [06:48]
mircea_popescu i dunno that such a write-up exists [06:50]
mircea_popescu doubt it could be made, either. [06:50]
ThickAsThieves plus, who wants to use something called mastercoin [06:56]
Duffer1 r/mastercoin i can sub to be a mastermind [06:58]
Duffer1 o.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.0 [07:00]
Duffer1 "we recently raised nearly 5000 BTC to build a new protocol layer on top of bitcoin." [07:00]
Bugpowder sigh. OK I will do my reading…. tx [07:00]
ThickAsThieves the best things are always made by contests [07:00]
Bugpowder In general I support a development model where people buy-in to the coin via funding its development [07:01]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder do the reading, publish the results, get peer reviewed. [07:03]
mircea_popescu i support teh model! [07:03]
Bugpowder If only I didn't have science to worry about [07:03]
Bugpowder sigh [07:04]
Bugpowder ok [07:04]
Bugpowder on my list of shit to do [07:04]
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Bugpowder wow. 100 master coins were minted per BTC during the kickstarter [07:07]
Bugpowder traiding at .23BTC / MSC now [07:08]
Bugpowder shit1 [07:08]
Bugpowder https://github.com/mastercoin-MSC/spec [07:08]
Duffer1 trading where? [07:10]
mircea_popescu good reason to ignore it, basically. [07:10]
mircea_popescu "holy shit, scam X started at y two months ago now it's at y times over nine thousand!!1" pretty much calls for "call me in two years" [07:11]
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kakobrekla y u no like doge no moar [07:13]
Bugpowder waiting for doge to hi 18 [07:13]
Bugpowder hit 18 [07:13]
Bugpowder that is the magic doge number [07:13]
Duffer1 MP is balls deep in doge, only talks shit to get cheaper doge [07:13]
kakobrekla at 18 it turns to adult doge? [07:14]
Duffer1 at least, dats what some1on 4chan sais [07:14]
Gotchawallet such investment [07:14]
BingoBoingo I though doge's usually died around 15 [07:15]
Bugpowder I am talking about MSC not MST by the way [07:15]
Bugpowder 18 is where the total future market cap = BBQcoin's total future market cap at current valuation. [07:16]
Bugpowder since BBQcoin is a worthless coin, yet still has value… [07:16]
Bugpowder OK I know that is a stupid analysis [07:16]
Gotchawallet arent most of the mastercoin owned by the founders and friends [07:16]
Gotchawallet and reeks of centralization [07:17]
Bugpowder anyone that participated in the kickstarter… yep [07:17]
Gotchawallet thought so..hmm [07:17]
Bugpowder doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to become useful [07:18]
Bugpowder different jobs could have different types of coins serve them best [07:18]
Gotchawallet yea initially it seemed great to me but that turned me off [07:18]
Duffer1 i didn't read past the part where the ceo introduced himself [07:19]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 i r not balls deep in no doge [07:33]
Duffer1 oh lol ya that came out wrong [07:33]
Duffer1 multi layered troll [07:34]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder so which one is msc ? [07:34]
Bugpowder The coloredcions one [07:34]
Bugpowder http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rpx26/mastercoin_is_a_joke/ [07:34]
ozbot Mastercoin is a joke : Bitcoin [07:34]
Duffer1 but like it totally works if like market participants act rationally and in good faith [07:37]
mircea_popescu i c [07:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.04999989 = 2.05 BTC [+] {3} [07:51]
jcpham good faith eh [07:54]
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benkay oh it gets worse [08:23]
benkay one changes bids in this derpstributed marketplace by simply transmitting another transaction that supersedes the previous bid/ask [08:23]
benkay and whichever makes it into the blockchain is nominally the official bid [08:24]
benkay thing is a goddamn shitshow [08:24]
benkay will gladly fisk to the tune of 1700 words for 1 btc. [08:24]
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Bugpowder jejej [08:26]
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benkay how to revoke orders once in blockchain is left as an exercise to the alert reader [08:28]
benkay read: it's non trivially parsed from this moronic 'spec'. [08:28]
mircea_popescu benkay you should start a blog, charge for credits. [08:29]
mircea_popescu basically, you folks are doing all the legwork into figuring this stuff out anyway [08:29]
benkay it's almost as though willet et al have heard about a thing called a spec and how some people involved with bitcoin think the cryptocurrency might be better off with a spec than new features, chose to 'implement' a 'spec' that's wholly inadequate to the task at hand [08:29]
mircea_popescu publishing the results is really getting mileage out of already sunk in work. otherwise it just rots away [08:29]
benkay ya well working with jurov to recoup time investment in parsing mpex complexities [08:30]
benkay would be more than happy to parse mastercoin retardities for you for pay [08:30]
benkay have no interest in maintaining blog thing [08:30]
mircea_popescu you know it's easier to do in retrospect than it looks. [08:31]
benkay the little i know about myself and men in general is that we don't tend to have a lot to say on topics of interest to large populations until we hit like thirty five and have a reasonable base of experience from which to generalize [08:31]
mircea_popescu you just write a report to yourself, click publish, go on your merry way [08:31]
mircea_popescu blogs are not for large populations. [08:31]
benkay blogging also turns one into a public persona [08:31]
mircea_popescu so does being on irc [08:31]
mircea_popescu i get it, public speaking is the #1 fear n the english world. nevertheless, step outside of your culture [08:32]
benkay point [08:32]
benkay anyways [08:32]
mircea_popescu if we can call it that. [08:32]
benkay rookie reporter does not start newspaper [08:32]
mircea_popescu this is not reporting. [08:32]
mircea_popescu you are not writing to an audience. you are writing to yourself. [08:32]
mircea_popescu "here is the deal with this X thing afaik" [08:32]
mircea_popescu you get very cheap extra research IF anyone ever reads your stuff [08:33]
mircea_popescu but that's not why you write. why you write is so that YOU can re-read it if you ever forget wtf X was [08:33]
benkay right because there's no textbook for cryptocurrency idiocy [08:34]
mircea_popescu what's this, centralisation nao ? [08:34]
benkay i can always pull out the dynamics and controls tomes and implement whatever thing i forgot the intricacies of implementing, but i won't always have access to my memories of why mastercoin is completely stupified. [08:35]
mircea_popescu you won't. [08:35]
mircea_popescu take it from experience, people ask me about 1year+ oldscams i have to review writs [08:35]
mircea_popescu scams are eminently forgettable in all those specific details that make discussion possible or worthwhile [08:35]
mircea_popescu and stupidity generally goes the same way [08:36]
benkay but think you could spend just one bitcoin and get a full report on the derpage, plus some negotiated amount of additional "hey kid you're stupid and didn't look into this enough plz foar to fix" [08:36]
mircea_popescu ya but i do not wish to befoul the marketplace of ideas by abusing my financial power. [08:37]
benkay :( [08:37]
Duffer1 pay x to shit all over something that just miiggghhhtt help the overall bitcoin ecosystem? [08:37]
benkay you'd befoul the idea marketplace, and defoul the bitcoinscamosystem [08:38]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 the helping part is a vanishingly long shot at this point. [08:38]
Duffer1 mp = rupert murdoch [08:38]
mircea_popescu a spiked club colonoscopy could conceivably also help some old geezer [08:38]
Duffer1 oh i agree [08:38]
mircea_popescu if it hits him just right [08:38]
Duffer1 the same way gay sex can cure constipation? [08:38]
mircea_popescu i thought taking it in the pooper made you stop shitting for the dya [08:39]
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Duffer1 benkay coindesk might be interested [08:40]
Duffer1 dunno if they pay though or if they're the huffpost of cryptoland [08:40]
benkay i do so dearly want to associate my name with publications whose trade is which american bitcoin company may or may not be raising another pile of idiot cash this week [08:42]
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Duffer1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-w500AmUE [08:44]
ozbot Community - "Make your money whore." - YouTube [08:44]
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Bugpowder this is how startups end up working tho. Raise a bunch of money before you have a real product, and try to assemble one before you can't raise an ever increasing sum of money [08:45]
Duffer1 ^sfw btw [08:45]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder hence the crunch. [08:46]
Bugpowder Stanford model vs. MIT model. Usually Stanford model does better [08:46]
Bugpowder occasionally MIT model makes a tech so awesome that it does change the market [08:46]
Bugpowder but usually they fail [08:46]
mircea_popescu only if the stanford model is applied to a well controlled environment made out of wasp kids thoroughly acculturated. [08:47]
mircea_popescu if the stanford model is exposed to the world the net result is today's us. [08:47]
mircea_popescu and as to mit, the "premier engineering school in teh werld", all i have to say is www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ‎ [08:48]
Duffer1 i'm gonna name my next cat "fuffles" [08:48]
Bugpowder by wasp you mean neo-wasp meritistocrats, not WSJ Joe Epstein US was great when WASPs were kings? [08:49]
mircea_popescu no, i mean people repressed to the point they actually need marketeers to give them topics for conversation. [08:50]
mircea_popescu as they can't, on their own, say hi to a stranger. [08:51]
mircea_popescu jerome k jerome's brit turned to 11 basically. [08:51]
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reeses I always wondered about MIT grads with degrees in the humanities [08:52]
mircea_popescu whoa he can talk [08:53]
chetty these days not talking to strangers is wisdom, not repression [08:55]
Bugpowder Sad thing, the Course 21W major... [08:56]
mircea_popescu chetty kids gotta get into trouble tho [08:57]
reeses Yep [08:57]
reeses http://web.mit.edu/catalog/degre.human.dlist.html [08:57]
ozbot MIT Course Catalog: Degrees Offered in the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences [08:57]
mircea_popescu "Comparative Media Studies" ? [08:59]
mircea_popescu is this basically redditderp ? [08:59]
reeses we have funny "you *have* to have a college degree!" programs here in the US [08:59]
reeses when I was in school I dated a girl whose major was "comparative history of ideas" [09:00]
reeses I think it was philosophy-lite [09:00]
mircea_popescu that's actually a very respectable postgrad field [09:00]
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reeses yeah, but this was a school of arts & sciences undergrad [09:01]
mircea_popescu nordstrom et al [09:01]
reeses which meant she had to take maybe four courses to satisfy the department requirement [09:01]
mircea_popescu i realise, they probably raped it to shit [09:01]
reeses https://chid.washington.edu [09:01]
reeses CHID is an undergraduate major and minor that has been around since 1978. The participating members (students, staff and faculty) of CHID collectively construct a dynamic, creative learning community that mobilizes collective and individual passions. We encourage our members to pursue self-knowledge through participation in the changing world in which their selves are shaped and which they will shape for their own and future generations. [09:02]
reeses hahahah [09:02]
mircea_popescu this oddly involves no fucking. [09:02]
reeses montessori university [09:02]
mircea_popescu ok, new definition for wasp : person that reads the above and does not immediately think "so they fuck on campus ?" [09:02]
reeses heh [09:03]
reeses do wasps still exist? [09:03]
mircea_popescu definitely. [09:03]
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Namworld What's a wasp? My first thought was "You ain't getting a job with that." [09:17]
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reeses white anglo-saxon protestant [09:21]
reeses vestigial ruling class in the US and UK [09:21]
reeses preppies are their larval stage [09:22]
mircea_popescu a wasp is a kid that grows up principally interracting with his parents, who are overly-intellectual, is never beaten, is carefully kept overclean and never gets to either injure himself or face any real responsibility [09:23]
mircea_popescu where real responsibility is that situation where either choice stinks, you gotta pick one and then stick with it, without redemption. [09:23]
mircea_popescu if you've ever seen the graduate you get the idea. [09:24]
reeses dead poet's society as well [09:24]
mircea_popescu ya, weir [09:25]
mircea_popescu for that matter, anything with that jew bimbo in it, what's his name [09:25]
Namworld I have not. Although it seems by the new definition you gave it, I'm a wasp. [09:26]
mircea_popescu Ben Stiller [09:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499999 = 0.25 BTC [+] [09:27]
Bugpowder that is really not a wasp [09:28]
* mircea_popescu invokes The Remnant [09:28]
Bugpowder http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304367204579268301043949952 [09:29]
ozbot The Late, Great American WASP - WSJ.com [09:29]
Bugpowder but if you want to reappropriate the term, using the W-word as a term of endearment, go ahead. [09:30]
mircea_popescu " unless one includes the entity that has come to be known as the meritocracy—presumably an aristocracy of sheer intelligence, men and women trained in the nation's most prestigious schools. [09:30]
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mircea_popescu lmao, bureaucracy never gets sick of sucking itself off huh [09:30]
Bugpowder WASPs play paddle tennis [09:30]
mircea_popescu the notion that there'd be a meritocracy in the us is beyond a simple lol [09:30]
Bugpowder which I had never fucking heard of till going to my kid's Mommy and Me preschool [09:30]
Duffer1 yer just jealous of our freedom [09:30]
mircea_popescu kinda impossible to have old money in a crooked place, so yeah. [09:32]
benkay the wasps are all lifetime government slaves [09:33]
benkay i pirated one of their young femmes off in my gypsy joo caravan [09:33]
benkay have to self-restrain from mocking the family around said femme [09:34]
mircea_popescu lol [09:34]
reeses ping pong is racist [09:34]
benkay the best part is how all the women are involved in welfare programs, and all the men in nominal spycraft [09:35]
Bugpowder The whitest sport in the world [09:35]
Bugpowder http://www.venicepaparazzi.com/events/april-6-7-spring-singles-paddle-tennis-tournament-2/ [09:35]
ozbot U.S. Open Doubles Paddle Tennis Tournament is this Sat. Sept. 21 : Venice Paparazzi | Venice Beach [09:35]
mircea_popescu the spycraft is indeed funny [09:35]
reeses holy gay [09:35]
mircea_popescu as wasps make notoriously bad spies [09:35]
reeses that is pathetic [09:35]
mircea_popescu to the degree that there's this old russian joke, goes like this : [09:35]
reeses I thought it was 'table tennis' [09:36]
mircea_popescu usa sends spy to cccp, within a coupla months they realise he'd been ferreted out and fed misinformation since just about day one [09:36]
reeses not toy raquet tennis [09:36]
reeses racquet [09:36]
reeses no, wasps make great spies [09:36]
mircea_popescu so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?" [09:37]
reeses in the US [09:37]
reeses :-) [09:37]
reeses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen [09:37]
ozbot Robert Hanssen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [09:38]
reeses ok, he's catholic [09:38]
reeses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bentley ← THAT is a WASP [09:38]
mircea_popescu that "worst intelligence disaster" has meanwhile been surpassed. [09:38]
ozbot Elizabeth Bentley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [09:38]
reeses Vassar [09:38]
Bugpowder more than US$1.4 million in cash and diamonds over a 22-year period. [09:38]
Bugpowder sad really [09:38]
reeses yeah [09:38]
Bugpowder should have just bought a few BTC [09:38]
reeses it's *cheap* to turn people [09:38]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder no btc in the 80s [09:38]
Bugpowder well whatever people were getting rich off then [09:39]
Bugpowder Criminal penalty Life imprisonment (without parole) [09:39]
Bugpowder Might have well been dealing kilos of yayo [09:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56243 @ 0.00088361 = 49.6969 BTC [+] {2} [09:40]
reeses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Edwin_Pitts ← $224,000 from 1987 to 1992 [09:40]
ozbot Earl Edwin Pitts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [09:40]
reeses it's just sad [09:40]
mircea_popescu dude, a house in ohio still goes for 20k [09:40]
mircea_popescu how much do you figure some guy's ass is worth ? [09:41]
reeses hahah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_spies the last section before the references is good [09:41]
Duffer1 people live in ohio [09:41]
Bugpowder My mortgage is bigger than all these dudes payouts… I've been turned by WFC. [09:41]
Duffer1 mind blown [09:41]
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reeses $463000 (2013 US dollars) [09:43]
reeses (based on Consumer Price Index) [09:43]
reeses that will buy a nice 70m^2 apartment here [09:43]
reeses maybe [09:43]
reeses with a commute and no view [09:43]
reeses http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/700-Illinois-St-3-San-Francisco-CA-94107/80734485_zpid/ [09:44]
ozbot 700 Illinois St # 3, San Francisco, CA 94107 is For Sale - Zillow [09:44]
reeses hah [09:44]
mircea_popescu fascinating to read a 10 year old wsj piece, and discover how it merely sucks as compared to a coupla decades before [09:45]
mircea_popescu as opposed to todaqy's indescribable retards of "we've taken a two week master's" [09:45]
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mircea_popescu http://notrickszone.com/2013/12/29/global-warming-expedition-remains-trapped-no-guranatee-australian-ice-breaker-will-get-through-3-meter-thick-ice/ [11:52]
ozbot Global Warming Expedition Remains Trapped…”No Guarantee” Australian Icebreaker Will Get Throug [11:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989995 = 0.5998 BTC [-] {2} [12:06]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/22/8s/3w9MRQy2/unnamed.jpg [12:08]
kakobrekla 19 mio sent from stamp to bermudas [12:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24071 @ 0.00089309 = 21.4976 BTC [+] {3} [14:23]
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ArsKisS on what terms does the bot publish those? [14:42]
ArsKisS I'm new here so.. [14:43]
mircea_popescu what do you mean terms [14:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00089369 = 5.1834 BTC [+] [15:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02194999 = 0.2414 BTC [-] [15:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.000892 = 11.6067 BTC [-] [15:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41999 @ 0.00288 = 120.9571 BTC [-] [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15440 @ 0.00088444 = 13.6558 BTC [-] [16:03]
ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tz6lf/i_only_very_rarely_read_people_here_talk_about/ [16:09]
ozbot I only very rarely read people here talk about Predictious or other prediction markets. Is it becaus [16:09]
ThickAsThieves "Because they're centralized. Decentralized prediction markets are going to be available in a couple months. Why risk it on some site that can get hacked, seized or turn out to be a scam." [16:09]
ThickAsThieves bitbet was fun while it lasted, sorry guys [16:09]
ThickAsThieves "The idea of a decentralized market is that it allows anyone anonymous but with accrued and verifiable reputation to be the arbiter and/or market maker of any particular market, while he stays safe from sabotage." [16:10]
ThickAsThieves oh ya? [16:10]
chetty sounds very messy [16:12]
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ArsKisS mircea_popescu, how does the bot sort out when to publish? some certain volume or what kind of criteria? [16:18]
ThickAsThieves it's time-based i think arskiss [16:19]
ThickAsThieves of course the algo changing the price is a diff question [16:19]
ArsKisS umm [16:20]
ArsKisS you mean it publishes last trade of every stock for like hourly? [16:20]
ThickAsThieves oh you mean the announcements in this channel? [16:21]
ThickAsThieves they happen live [16:21]
ThickAsThieves they are grouped by the minute i think [16:22]
ThickAsThieves and trades under a certain value arent shown [16:22]
ThickAsThieves like .01 or something, kakobrekla had better details [16:22]
ThickAsThieves has* [16:22]
ArsKisS ah, ok [16:22]
ArsKisS thanks for explaining [16:22]
ThickAsThieves np [16:22]
ArsKisS I've been wondering a while how it sorts out when to announce and when not [16:23]
ArsKisS certainly can't be announcing all trades :D [16:23]
ThickAsThieves it used to [16:23]
ArsKisS must be flood :D [16:23]
ThickAsThieves during much busier times too [16:23]
ArsKisS sounds evil [16:23]
ThickAsThieves its not bad really [16:23]
ThickAsThieves but better like this [16:23]
ArsKisS agree [16:24]
ArsKisS btw what do you guys think about seedcoin? [16:24]
ThickAsThieves what do YOU think about it [16:25]
ArsKisS :E [16:25]
ArsKisS well, I just started seeing what's inside [16:26]
ThickAsThieves i met the Hive people once, they seem to have their act together [16:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 330 @ 0.00290998 = 0.9603 BTC [+] {2} [16:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0499999 = 0.35 BTC [+] [16:26]
ThickAsThieves but otherwise, I know nothing of the Seedcoin manager, so it's hard for me to count on him to choose and make good deals [16:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00088727 = 25.021 BTC [+] [16:27]
ArsKisS https://btc.sx/ [16:30]
ArsKisS this might be bad ass site if they get traffic [16:31]
mikaeldice How can I confirm and test (on the endpoint) the connection to the DH? [16:31]
mikaeldice Also, can you provide some query commands to check overall health of Access [16:31]
mikaeldice Control? [16:31]
mikaeldice I am relatively new in this role and am only aware of policyfetcher.log [16:31]
mikaeldice Are there any quick reference guides you can recommend? I have tried to look [16:31]
mikaeldice at the full guides but am getting a little lost on how to translate them and [16:31]
mikaeldice relate them to my environment. [16:31]
mikaeldice Sorry [16:31]
Gotchawallet hmm derivatives [16:31]
mikaeldice whoops [16:31]
ArsKisS derp? [16:32]
mikaeldice Yeah, derped.. Right clicked the wrong window :P [16:32]
mikaeldice Thankfully no client data in there [16:33]
ArsKisS one thing about seedcoin that I'm pretty sure of is that it will after the IPO [16:34]
ArsKisS anyone disagrees for a good reason? :P [16:34]
ArsKisS it will dive [16:35]
ArsKisS how can I lose a whole word by typo :O [16:35]
pankkake see Dealcoin by the same guys [16:36]
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mikaeldice 10k BTC seems a high valuation [16:39]
mikaeldice You'd think people would rather invest in the individual startups themselves, given that there's little mentioned regarding the fund operator's experience or past results [16:41]
ArsKisS yup [16:42]
ArsKisS I'd rather invest straight to btc.sx or cryptopay [16:42]
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VanCleef lol 10k btc [16:46]
VanCleef id rather delete my wallet.dat file [16:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29102002 = 0.582 BTC [-] {2} [17:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29000002 = 2.32 BTC [-] {2} [17:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00088444 = 22.2879 BTC [-] [17:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00290999 = 1.455 BTC [+] [17:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00088444 = 14.4164 BTC [-] [17:43]
mircea_popescu ArsKisS there's a streaming chan wiuth al;l trades [17:56]
mircea_popescu mikaeldice investing directly is much like shooting porn directly. you need an erection and you need to not be camera shy [17:57]
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ThickAsThieves and someone to screw [17:59]
mircea_popescu rarely a problem, that [17:59]
mircea_popescu buy a bottle of wine, you're good to go [17:59]
VanCleef put a small chilie in your ass and you're good to go [18:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00290999 = 0.5034 BTC [+] [18:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00088442 = 27.4612 BTC [-] {2} [18:20]
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ThickAsThieves https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1496149_10152097077945783_1720436486_o.jpg [18:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29989998 = 2.3992 BTC [+] {4} [18:30]
mircea_popescu i see your pic and raise you http://watchdogwire.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/florida/files/2013/06/woman-baby-and-shotgun-630x286.jpg [18:35]
mircea_popescu wait, i found the good one. http://hypebeast.com/image/2008/07/terry-richardson-vice-magazine-11.jpg [18:36]
ThickAsThieves nice [18:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2100 @ 0.001 = 2.1 BTC [18:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45188 @ 0.00088947 = 40.1934 BTC [+] {3} [18:51]
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deadweasel http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25550512 [19:00]
deadweasel lol, hack.bat [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1889 @ 0.001 = 1.889 BTC [19:01]
ozbot BBC News - Cash machines robbed with infected USB sticks [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC [19:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [19:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00291 = 0.291 BTC [+] [19:06]
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pankkake I thought autorun on usb keys was disabled [19:11]
pankkake unless they're using very old windows versions. oh wait… that's what they do [19:11]
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pankkake anyway, title should be "dollar hacked, loses value overnight" [19:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20307 @ 0.00089451 = 18.1648 BTC [+] {2} [19:12]
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