Forum logs for 30 Aug 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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kakobreklaa 22:50.49 ( mircea_popescu ) which people whined i should make and now aren't using :D [00:01]
kakobreklaa its always like that [00:01]
mircea_popescu yep. [00:01]
mircea_popescu i dont terribly mind, it was 15 minutes or w/e [00:02]
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kakobreklaa can one change the template of the forum? [00:02]
kakobreklaa my eyes kinda hurt with this default one [00:03]
JWU_42 yes [00:03]
mircea_popescu which forum you mean, btcf ? [00:04]
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kakobreklaa yes [00:05]
mircea_popescu o, you can pick any theme you want and i'll install it. [00:05]
mircea_popescu jus say. [00:05]
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kakobreklaa ok ill find onw [00:06]
kakobreklaa one [00:06]
* mircea_popescu waits for kakobrekla to send him something with trojans in it nao :D [00:06]
kakobreklaa :D [00:07]
kakobreklaa im accually not at home atm so ill prolly send it tomorrow [00:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [+] [00:11]
mircea_popescu not any rush [00:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1045 = 1.045 BTC [-] [00:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 14 @ 0.06 = 0.84 BTC [+] [00:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.11 = 2.75 BTC [-] [00:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [JLP-BMD] 2 @ 0.09999 = 0.2 BTC [+] [00:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1039 BTC [-] [00:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.811 BTC [-] [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [-] [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 5 @ 0.7803 = 3.9015 BTC [-] [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 2 @ 0.7802 = 1.5604 BTC [-] [00:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 7 @ 0.5011 = 3.5077 BTC [+] [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.501 = 1.503 BTC [-] [00:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 6 @ 0.15449875 = 0.927 BTC [+] [00:35]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [00:36]
gribble Best bid: 10.76642, Best ask: 10.897, Bid-ask spread: 0.13058, Last trade: 10.897, 24 hour volume: 54516, 24 hour low: 10.55, 24 hour high: 11.134 [00:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [+] [00:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2089 @ 0.00096924 = 2.0247 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1693 @ 0.0009696 = 1.6415 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00339 = 0.1017 BTC [+] [00:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 12 @ 0.10449 = 1.2539 BTC [+] [00:42]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 18 @ 0.9999999 = 18 BTC [-] [00:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-] [01:00]
mircea_popescu bitfoo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35775.msg587428#msg587428 remember bakc in the day ? :D [01:00]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 15 @ 1.19739576 = 17.9609 BTC [+] [01:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.944 = 1.888 BTC [-] [01:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [TCC] 1 @ 0.0001 BTC [-] [01:09]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.9448 = 1.8896 BTC [+] [01:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 1 @ 0.050999 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10449 = 0.209 BTC [+] [01:16]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.10449 = 0.6269 BTC [+] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [+] [01:30]
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mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/media/comic/overbite.jpg ahaha o god this is too funny [01:44]
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BTC-Mining This comic website seems more pervert than funny or anything else... [01:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 50 @ 0.58999 = 29.4995 BTC [+] [01:57]
mircea_popescu well... de gustibus as they say [01:58]
BTC-Mining I personally recommend cyanide & happiness [01:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 50 @ 0.58999 = 29.4995 BTC [+] [01:59]
mircea_popescu i dun really liek them [01:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00039125 = 1.3694 BTC [-] [02:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+] [02:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 9 @ 0.01 = 0.09 BTC [+] [02:07]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.8002 BTC [+] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.80002 = 4.0001 BTC [-] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [-] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.78101 = 1.562 BTC [-] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.781 = 7.029 BTC [-] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 16 @ 0.78 = 12.48 BTC [-] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 3000 @ 0.01 = 30 BTC [02:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10449 BTC [+] [02:21]
BTCHero seriously .78 [02:21]
BTCHero I've made a huge mistake [02:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00339 = 0.017 BTC [+] [02:22]
mircea_popescu im not entirely usre that's warranted. [02:25]
mircea_popescu yes, the guy was in pirate. nevertheless, he has farms and stuff. [02:25]
mircea_popescu !ticker f.giga.etf [02:25]
assbot [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00064789 / 0.00085908 / 0.0009696 (405931 shares, 348.73 BTC), 30day: 0.00064789 / 0.00099327 / 0.00115139 (7468422 shares, 7,418.20 BTC) [02:25]
mircea_popescu whoa 64 ?! [02:25]
mircea_popescu jesus. [02:25]
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mircea_popescu maybe there's more to this than i know. [02:26]
BTCHero him and pirate are buddies, but how/why does this affect the price of the share [02:26]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi "LIF.CX to me seemed like a ponzi, esp after I asked him about it. What I am wondering however is why did it go bad so soon? Even if this was designed to fail it should have lasted longer than this." remember that quote ? [02:27]
BTCHero I mean it is one of the few that are going to be worth something when/if asic hits right? [02:27]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure asic is next year's crop. [02:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.10449 = 5.2245 BTC [+] [02:27]
mircea_popescu i think maybe he's just gettying hit by a general flood of people from the sinking ship. [02:27]
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BTCHero god damn gigavps making friends with the devil [02:28]
mircea_popescu people overvalue the surface of things these days [02:28]
mircea_popescu some douche talks nice to them, flatters them a little, wham, best of friends. [02:29]
mircea_popescu i blame the school system. [02:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+] [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00039125 = 11.9723 BTC [-] [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00039225 = 1.0591 BTC [+] [02:31]
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dub copumpkin had a lobotomy? [02:37]
copumpkin yup [02:37]
dub reversable apparently [02:37]
mircea_popescu who's honestbob anyway [02:37]
dub a seriously retarded forum user [02:37]
mircea_popescu o [02:38]
mircea_popescu speaking of forum users, someone should drag that loupgaroux character on irc [02:38]
mircea_popescu i think i'd pay for this. [02:38]
dub please don't [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12876 @ 0.00096573 = 12.4347 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3350 @ 0.00095909 = 3.213 BTC [-] [02:38]
mircea_popescu why not ? [02:38]
dub he is a bag of dicks? [02:38]
mircea_popescu well who's a bag of vulvas ? [02:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.8749 = 6.1243 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8749 = 3.4996 BTC [+] [02:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.875 = 3.5 BTC [+] [02:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.095 BTC [+] [02:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 19 @ 0.0953 = 1.8107 BTC [+] [02:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.00339 = 0.2882 BTC [+] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 3 @ 0.07999999 = 0.24 BTC [+] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8689 = 4.3445 BTC [-] [02:54]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12600 @ 0.00095909 = 12.0845 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.869 = 8.69 BTC [+] [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 550 @ 0.00095909 = 0.5275 BTC [-] [02:58]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 388 @ 0.00095695 = 0.3713 BTC [-] [02:58]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 29 @ 0.10449 = 3.0302 BTC [+] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 15 @ 0.1045 = 1.5675 BTC [+] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 56 @ 0.10485 = 5.8716 BTC [+] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 9 @ 0.9999999 = 9 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1247 = 1.8705 BTC [-] [03:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00039096 = 10.4386 BTC [-] [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20108 @ 0.00039086 = 7.8594 BTC [-] [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00039074 = 0.1141 BTC [-] [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00093699 = 1.4992 BTC [-] [03:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1429 @ 0.00092435 = 1.3209 BTC [-] [03:26]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3100 @ 0.00089278 = 2.7676 BTC [-] [03:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.07 BTC [+] [03:30]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22032.0 reading this is so very amusing [03:40]
mircea_popescu i heartily recomend. [03:40]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1247 = 1.8705 BTC [-] [03:42]
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toffoo mircea: been meaning to congratulate you, you were way ahead of the game on the pirate fiasco [03:47]
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toffoo was your credit derivative the first major bet against pirate? [03:47]
toffoo I hope you didn't lose too much on that [03:48]
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toffoo did you eventually make something back on his eventual (apparent) collapse? [03:48]
mircea_popescu toffoo actually i didn't lose anything, is the thing. [03:48]
mircea_popescu the way it played out, i sold the stuff, then the people with the passthroughs misstepped (i don't recall, i think announced 2k and issued 1k or something) [03:48]
mircea_popescu and so a major invested paniced and sold into my bid. i cleared ~1k [03:49]
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mircea_popescu but at any rate, i just wish more people sat for a moment and thought things through. [03:49]
mircea_popescu lol coingenuity [03:50]
toffoo nice. always better to be lucky than smart is what I say ;) [03:50]
mircea_popescu i totally got lucky, is true. [03:50]
mircea_popescu after that... well... nobody wanted to touch it anymore really, volume was tiny. [03:50]
toffoo I remember considering buying some at the time, [03:51]
toffoo but some seemingly smart and well connected people around here were betting against you, [03:51]
mircea_popescu the true killer was that some people brought forth not really proof... but some indication of possible collusion. it became clear it's impossible to actually verify a default. [03:51]
toffoo with the argument that pirate would probably collapse "some day" .. but not "yet" [03:51]
mircea_popescu fact of the matter is, the guy who finally burst it weeks ago is not the first person who didn't get paid. [03:51]
mircea_popescu is just the first person who didn't swallow it. [03:52]
mircea_popescu toffoo were you invested btw ? [03:54]
toffoo I'm started to get pretty proud of myself ... [03:54]
toffoo so far, I've managed to swerve MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, AND pirate [03:55]
mircea_popescu o wow. [03:55]
mircea_popescu im not sure there's five of us. [03:55]
toffoo haven't lost a bitcent to any [03:55]
mircea_popescu of course, i wasn't around during mybitcoin. [03:55]
toffoo I did lose 10 BTC to bitscalper though [03:55]
mircea_popescu i wasn't in that either. [03:55]
mircea_popescu hm. when was mybitcoin fiasco ? march 2011 ? [03:56]
toffoo no, I think you were around .. it wasn't that long ago [03:56]
mircea_popescu o you're right, it was august [03:56]
mircea_popescu like a year ago. jeez it seems like forever. [03:56]
toffoo actually, I did briefly try mybitcoin and bitcoinica … but I guess it was lucky I didn't stick around too long [03:57]
mircea_popescu well.. anyway, here's to hoping people are smarting but a lot smarter. [03:57]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoin is a new web-technology that enables people" [04:03]
mircea_popescu why do people confuse the web with the internet ? [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32735 @ 0.00039225 = 12.8403 BTC [+] [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22965 @ 0.00039399 = 9.048 BTC [+] [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16200 @ 0.00084201 = 13.6406 BTC [-] [04:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19300 @ 0.00083588 = 16.1325 BTC [-] [04:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1500 @ 0.00078132 = 1.172 BTC [-] [04:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10484 = 0.3145 BTC [-] [04:07]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: because one is a description of the other [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 4400 @ 0.0010088 = 4.4387 BTC [+] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 9000 @ 0.00101 = 9.09 BTC [+] [04:08]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 100000 @ 0.0010105 = 101.05 BTC [+] [04:08]
mircea_popescu sorta like saying you're going to town in your boat [04:09]
mircea_popescu you mean car, but hey, they're means of transportation so it's ok [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 7292 @ 0.001015 = 7.4014 BTC [+] [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 20000 @ 0.0010155 = 20.31 BTC [+] [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 50000 @ 0.00101575 = 50.7875 BTC [+] [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 9607 @ 0.001045 = 10.0393 BTC [+] [04:09]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: analogy = auto fail [04:09]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 5800 @ 0.00105 = 6.09 BTC [+] [04:09]
Azelphur also bad analogy [04:09]
mircea_popescu why ? internet carries the web, it's the superset there. [04:09]
Azelphur what do you think the web is? [04:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44408 @ 0.00039074 = 17.352 BTC [-] [04:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19263 @ 0.00039013 = 7.5151 BTC [-] [04:10]
mircea_popescu it's not a matter of what i think. the web is the sum of all html documents and their connections (ie links). [04:10]
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mircea_popescu it's implemented on the internet, sure, but that's irrelevant really. [04:11]
Azelphur I don't think that's correct at all (what does a web have to do with html documents) [04:11]
mircea_popescu thats what the web is lol. [04:11]
Azelphur the internet is laid out like a web, which is why the two terms are used synonymously [04:12]
Azelphur and web pages are web pages, they are not "the web" [04:12]
mircea_popescu well this'd happen to be a barbarism. [04:12]
mircea_popescu "The World Wide Web (abbreviated as WWW or W3, commonly known as the Web ), is a system of interlinked hypertext documents accessed via the Internet." [04:12]
mircea_popescu the final part is just typical wikipedia crud. [04:12]
Azelphur guess wikipedia has the final word :p [04:13]
mircea_popescu the web couild exist offline or whatever, it doesn't HAVE to be accessed through teh internet. [04:13]
mircea_popescu but anyway. [04:13]
Azelphur yea, your right [04:13]
Azelphur spose I answered your question anyway though, haha [04:13]
mircea_popescu :p [04:13]
mircea_popescu "today i learned..." [04:14]
Azelphur indeed [04:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2693 @ 0.00039399 = 1.061 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16322 @ 0.00039401 = 6.431 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00039414 = 1.813 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286 @ 0.00039443 = 0.1128 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36099 @ 0.000395 = 14.2591 BTC [+] [04:16]
mircea_popescu yes pls buy moar shares because i know what teh web is! ty internets! [04:16]
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mircea_popescu o wow! i just went to register #mpex and i discovered... it was already registered [04:29]
mircea_popescu by me. in april. totally forgot doing it. [04:29]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || ICBIT https://icbit.se || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || a biased message: http://smpake.com/ || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah [04:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 8 @ 0.15185 = 1.2148 BTC [+] [04:43]
Chaang-Noi you should really move over there, would help us all out thanks [04:45]
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mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i'm not the one you should be butthurt at. [04:48]
Chaang-Noi butthurt? not at all, ignoring your spam is not that much of a bother [04:49]
mircea_popescu eh go sell some pirate bonds why don't ya. [04:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.0034 = 9.86 BTC [+] [16:21]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 300 @ 0.00089379 = 0.2681 BTC [+] [16:28]
mircea_popescu As part of the global push to tax the rich, Britain is now debating an “emergency” wealth tax. But the idea has hit fierce opposition from conservatives, who say the “politics of envy” hasn’t made the country rich. [16:30]
mircea_popescu o hey. any brits wanna buy bitcoins ? [16:30]
mircea_popescu you can't tax "the rich" here. [16:30]
kakobrekla yes, this isnt microcash [16:30]
kakobrekla or whatever. [16:30]
kakobrekla ;> [16:30]
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mircea_popescu bitcoin is megacash! RAWR! [16:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4470 @ 0.0034 = 15.198 BTC [+] [16:40]
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smickles lol [16:43]
smickles reading the log, i feel like i read "bullshit, there arn't bitcoin asset brokers. Name 3" [16:44]
rg yeah [16:45]
rg i only had brendio on the top of my head [16:45]
rg and was definitely too lazy to google fro the other [16:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1019002 = 1.019 BTC [-] [16:45]
smickles I haven't advertised my services too much becaus I'm not done coding the website [16:47]
rg whens its gonna be done [16:49]
rg well that's a silly question [16:49]
rg when do you expect it to be usable [16:49]
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mircea_popescu smickles did i miss something ? [16:53]
rg mircea_popescu is a fag [16:53]
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mircea_popescu rg http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134202169416.png [16:54]
mircea_popescu there is something i don't understand here tho. if i ihad the option of using a website or talking to a person, i'd chose the later. [16:54]
rg not everyone is a chatty catht [16:55]
rg cathy* [16:55]
mircea_popescu but i mean, all soets of companies have customer suippoirt phones. [16:56]
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mircea_popescu what does everyone want to do ? TALK TO A PERSON!!! [16:56]
rg i dont [16:56]
mircea_popescu hm [16:58]
mircea_popescu maybe i'm just weird. [16:58]
rg you're just an old lady [16:59]
rg who cant get with the times [16:59]
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smickles rg: i am working on the minimum viable product right now, so usable and 'done' are almost the same. To answer your question. If I can put some good work in, i'd say 6 days to mvp [17:02]
mircea_popescu rg possibly. [17:02]
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smickles and rg, if this does well, i'll need a dedi [17:02]
smickles and probably some advise [17:03]
mircea_popescu pity rg doesn't have any dedis. [17:03]
smickles but i don't know what advice yet [17:03]
mircea_popescu and doesn't know shit about it [17:03]
mircea_popescu :D [17:03]
rg i have plenty of dedis [17:05]
smickles mircea_popescu: i bet you'd like how i'm devoping this thing [17:05]
rg i just dont have any low end ones [17:05]
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rg low end being under 4gb ram, less than 2 cores [17:05]
mircea_popescu o, rg is elitist. [17:05]
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smickles i'm taking the perspective that i should make a web ui that fits my needs to service people who 'call me' [17:05]
mircea_popescu that's an ideea. [17:06]
smickles so i'll still be available to be called [17:06]
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smickles and the people who don't want to call, can use the web ui [17:06]
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smickles senario: someone call me and asks for 100 call, 10 strike, expiring next month. [17:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 32 @ 0.0154 = 0.4928 BTC [+] [17:09]
smickles if i have my web ui setup to where it's darn easy to enter that order, [17:09]
mircea_popescu so sorta like a form to email you ? [17:09]
smickles then someone else should be able to use it too [17:09]
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smickles not really like a form to email me, more like navagate to the page wihe the button that says "BUY X CALLS" with input for x and the details of the the call [17:11]
smickles market>options>specific option [17:11]
smickles input 100, hit buy [17:11]
smickles the only differenc between my account and a user's account, is that i can set my actions to affect a user's account [17:12]
smickles and the user can only affect their account [17:12]
mircea_popescu o that's an interesting approach. [17:15]
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EB250 not good: https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/08/27/lets-start-the-week-with-a-new-java-0day [17:29]
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mircea_popescu EB250 ya someone mentioned it here back then [17:34]
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MrTiggr http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Pirateat40 << teehee ... Chaang-Noi , its not filled in yet :D have yerself some spleen-venting fun :D [17:41]
Chaang-Noi :) [17:42]
Chaang-Noi i did not even know of that site [17:42]
Chaang-Noi im going to wait until matthews bet to do anything [17:42]
Chaang-Noi the 9th [17:42]
MrTiggr ;) its new .. (is me and a few others :D) [17:42]
MrTiggr gotta chronicle the lulz somehow [17:42]
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Chaang-Noi yeah its cool [17:43]
Chaang-Noi ill book mark it:) [17:43]
MrTiggr :D thx [17:43]
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smickles "Bitcoin is currently accepted in exchange for alpaca socks[2] and carrots[3], but you can also buy toilet paper on MtGox." [17:43]
smickles :D [17:43]
MrTiggr ^^ anyone else too, have some fun; take it out on a wiki, not the forums :P [17:44]
Chaang-Noi :) [17:44]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [17:48]
gribble Best bid: 10.75, Best ask: 10.8488, Bid-ask spread: 0.09880, Last trade: 10.75, 24 hour volume: 36164, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.98888 [17:48]
mircea_popescu ahaha there's an ed for btc now ? [17:48]
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mircea_popescu MrTiggr so how do i edit it ? [17:49]
MrTiggr yu will need an account [17:50]
MrTiggr simple sign up [17:50]
mircea_popescu ewgh. [17:50]
mircea_popescu i don't want an account. let anon express itself! [17:50]
MrTiggr if yud rather post copy to me, ill happily put it up :D [17:50]
mircea_popescu lol k [17:51]
smickles heh, now there's even bitcoin ed brokers [17:51]
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MrTiggr AHAHAHAHAHAH [17:51]
MrTiggr smickles++ [17:51]
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smickles mircea_popescu: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu [17:57]
smickles i've only just started, but it's accurate at least [17:57]
mircea_popescu ahaha [17:57]
mircea_popescu you need to enlist the help of some people on the forum. [17:58]
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smickles mircea_popescu: but they would ruin the article by lying about you [17:58]
mircea_popescu let lies compete! [17:59]
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mircea_popescu omg. MrTiggr i notice that offensive site of yours contains libelous and defamatory content about me! I SUE YOU [18:00]
MrTiggr hehehehe [18:00]
MrTiggr yu are fictional [18:00]
MrTiggr read the disclaimer ;) [18:00]
mircea_popescu ono. [18:00]
mircea_popescu internet is serious business. [18:00]
Chaang-Noi can we upload photos? [18:01]
MrTiggr http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu [18:01]
MrTiggr and yes yu can upload afaik [18:01]
MrTiggr :D enjoi [18:01]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi give me nice tits you hear ? [18:01]
MrTiggr smickles++ u crack me up dood [18:01]
mircea_popescu none of that 1/2 A cup you got there in thailand. [18:01]
MrTiggr hehehehehehehe [18:01]
MrTiggr give "his effigy" nice tits [18:01]
Chaang-Noi wish i had more energy, i will ahve fun with this [18:02]
MrTiggr its a spleen-soma :D [18:02]
Chaang-Noi but not tonight, peace all [18:02]
MrTiggr nn goat [18:02]
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mircea_popescu there should be borat somewhere there [18:03]
MrTiggr hehehehe [18:03]
mircea_popescu hey smickles i designate this as my official ab image : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13463383356.jpg [18:03]
Chaang-Noi where is the goats on the boats page? [18:07]
Chaang-Noi iv gota photo to upload [18:07]
Chaang-Noi MrTiggr please upload this photo to the goat on a boat page http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/TyGrrTech/f58b08402757.jpg thanks :) [18:10]
jcpham http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Bitcoin [18:11]
jcpham this is correct [18:12]
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MrTiggr lol ... ill get onto it now, goat [18:13]
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smickles aw, internal error on upload of that pic [18:17]
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mircea_popescu MrTiggr needs a dedi [18:18]
smickles Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public". [18:18]
MrTiggr lol [18:19]
MrTiggr i'll get the admin onto it [18:19]
MrTiggr (yu think i have enuf energy to maintain a mediawiki ppfft) [18:19]
MrTiggr :D he's on it [18:20]
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MrTiggr smickles: try agin now [18:24]
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bitfoo mircea_popescu, lol, good old Peter Lambert [18:43]
mircea_popescu bitfoo indeed. [18:44]
bitfoo why are you digging up old threads anyway? [18:44]
bitfoo I thought you hated the forums :) [18:45]
mircea_popescu well, irl i'm a business consultant, but by my actual education i'm an philosopher/anthropologist [18:45]
mircea_popescu so it's a little bit of academic curiosity. [18:45]
bitfoo aha [18:45]
bitfoo interesting [18:45]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is actually old enough to be treated as an extinct culture if one's so inclined. [18:45]
bitfoo lol [18:46]
mircea_popescu why not, you know ? [18:46]
mircea_popescu some people solve crosswords. [18:46]
bitfoo yeah, it *does* seem like ages ago [18:46]
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mircea_popescu and for that matter, i loathe the press, too [18:46]
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mircea_popescu but i do read it. just, i keep everything for a few years first. [18:46]
mircea_popescu i normally read newspapers from like the late 2000s atm. [18:46]
bitfoo hahaha [18:47]
mircea_popescu i'm not even kidding. [18:47]
bitfoo that way it's "history" and not "news" [18:47]
mircea_popescu you;d be amazed how informative it is. [18:47]
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bitfoo lol [18:47]
bitfoo that's not a bad idea [18:47]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 33 @ 0.9 = 29.7 BTC [-] [18:56]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA-IPCORE-DEV] 55 @ 0.37999999 = 20.9 BTC [+] [19:19]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [+] [19:23]
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assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 2 @ 0.0095 = 0.019 BTC [-] [19:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 1 @ 0.0095 BTC [-] [19:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.1785 = 1.785 BTC [+] [19:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 10000 @ 0.00012189 = 1.2189 BTC [+] [19:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 1 @ 0.97 BTC [+] [19:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.12501 = 1.2501 BTC [-] [19:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 90 @ 0.125 = 11.25 BTC [-] [19:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-] [19:30]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 14 @ 0.1378 = 1.9292 BTC [+] [19:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 40 @ 0.13786 = 5.5144 BTC [+] [19:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 20 @ 0.13786 = 2.7572 BTC [+] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 19 @ 1 = 19 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 74 @ 1 = 74 BTC [+] [19:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+] [19:40]
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assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [19:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1199 = 0.7194 BTC [-] [19:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 40 @ 0.0623 = 2.492 BTC [-] [19:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.1071 = 3.9627 BTC [-] [19:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.107 = 6.741 BTC [-] [19:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00038959 = 8.2593 BTC [-] [19:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 3 @ 0.0159 = 0.0477 BTC [+] [19:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27692 @ 0.00038959 = 10.7885 BTC [-] [19:52]
smickles hmm, so are ppt operators getting legal bs on their asses? [19:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P060T] 7 @ 0.02669781 = 0.1869 BTC [+] [19:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1179 = 0.7074 BTC [+] [19:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 31 @ 0.12001 = 3.7203 BTC [-] [19:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 100 @ 0.12 = 12 BTC [-] [19:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 590 @ 0.115 = 67.85 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1179 BTC [-] [19:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.13784 = 1.3784 BTC [+] [20:01]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:02]
gribble Best bid: 10.763, Best ask: 10.7999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03690, Last trade: 10.8, 24 hour volume: 40575, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.98888 [20:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 2 @ 0.927 = 1.854 BTC [+] [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 11 @ 0.9299 = 10.2289 BTC [+] [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.9448 BTC [+] [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 4 @ 0.945 = 3.78 BTC [+] [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 1 @ 0.945 BTC [+] [20:05]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.8299 = 4.9794 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 54 @ 0.83 = 44.82 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 16 @ 0.1 = 1.6 BTC [-] [20:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 42 @ 0.06 = 2.52 BTC [-] [20:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.5088 BTC [+] [20:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 14 @ 0.08 = 1.12 BTC [-] [20:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.06 = 0.96 BTC [-] [20:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-] [20:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 86 @ 0.08 = 6.88 BTC [-] [20:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 30 @ 0.07 = 2.1 BTC [-] [20:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 37 @ 0.07 = 2.59 BTC [-] [20:30]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10700 @ 0.00088603 = 9.4805 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4500 @ 0.00087952 = 3.9578 BTC [-] [20:32]
usagi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104489.msg1146869#msg1146869 [20:33]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9023 @ 0.00089379 = 8.0647 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2634 @ 0.00089803 = 2.3654 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8843 @ 0.00090488 = 8.0019 BTC [+] [20:36]
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rg usagi [20:38]
rg if you actually need those LTC [20:38]
rg i can sell em to you [20:38]
usagi Hey, I got it [20:38]
usagi Thanks I was just panicking because I didn't know what to do [20:38]
rg you got em already? [20:38]
rg ok [20:38]
usagi i ended up buying 500 btc ^^ [20:39]
usagi i mean [20:39]
usagi litecoins [20:39]
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smickles oh usagi [20:44]
smickles i've been meaning to ask [20:45]
smickles i know s2cm is small beans, but we'll prolly want some kinde of insurance on the funds we place [20:45]
smickles and [20:45]
usagi I wouldn't say anything smickles does is small beans. You're well-respected around these parts [20:46]
smickles as i'm a broker, do you offer security investor protection? [20:46]
smickles or something similar [20:46]
usagi You mean for your passthroughs? [20:47]
usagi I'm not sure what you mean [20:48]
usagi A shareholder protection agreement would protect investors in ss if the broker/dealer relationship failed [20:48]
smickles usagi: well, i hold various assets on behalf of people (outside of mpoeetf and ss) [20:49]
smickles suppose the exchange up and runs [20:49]
usagi it would depend on what you wanted protection from. if you wanted protection from something happening wrt glbse or mpex or protection on a particular asset that would be different [20:49]
smickles i should have insurance to refund my clients [20:49]
usagi But if the exchange up and runs your agreement with individual companies does not change [20:51]
smickles also, it should cover my clients in the even i can't perform my duties to them [20:51]
usagi Brokers merely hold securities for you on your behalf [20:51]
usagi Well I guess it would depend on what exchange [20:51]
mircea_popescu now this is interesting. im curious how much mpex insurance costs. [20:52]
usagi some exchanges are cheaper to insure than others ^^ [20:52]
usagi Well, I don't have your dox mircea [20:52]
usagi so I would have to hunt you down, and that could be expensive [20:52]
mircea_popescu usagi lol, i'd expect the exchange which lists mostly scam assets would be VERY expensive. [20:52]
smickles also, i should have coverage in the sense of protecting my clients from myself [20:52]
mircea_popescu smickles that part can't be done smickles. [20:52]
mircea_popescu copumpkin worked on it for a while, but it just doesn't work. [20:53]
usagi I act on the information I have on my desk. [20:53]
copumpkin ? [20:53]
copumpkin oh, insurance? [20:53]
mircea_popescu copumpkin weren't yea [20:53]
usagi Some of which is priveledged to me as the guy who runs CPA [20:53]
copumpkin yeah, I realized I didn't want to diversify coverage enough to make it work, and the legal issues with CDSes in particular were too annoying [20:53]
copumpkin but mostly, insurance is only really worth it if you have a really wide uncorrelated portfolio of insured things [20:54]
smickles wikipedia on traditional security investor protection " It protects investors in certain securities from financial harm if a broker-dealer fails. It does not protect against losses in the securities markets, identity theft, or other 3rd-party fraud." [20:54]
usagi Well smickles [20:54]
mircea_popescu as far as i recall the main problem was you couldn't insure against X person cause he could just buy that insurance secretly and then default [20:54]
usagi The flavor of the month is the shareholder protection agreement. [20:54]
usagi If an exchange bolted [20:54]
usagi we could step in and cover your loss. [20:54]
usagi Since it would be out of your control [20:54]
usagi If you want full coverage it would depend on the amount you're covering [20:54]
usagi Probably 1% a month [20:54]
usagi Round number :p [20:54]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: that was a problem, but the main issue for profit vs. risk assumed is diverfisifcation [20:55]
copumpkin you're taking on the same risk as a lender/investor as an insurer [20:55]
mircea_popescu niceword there :D [20:55]
copumpkin it doesn't make sense for you to accept less reward than a direct investor [20:55]
copumpkin UNLESS you can do so all over the place [20:55]
mircea_popescu i guess this is true yea. [20:55]
smickles usagi: alrigh then, thanks for the primer :) [20:55]
copumpkin becasue you don't need to pony up cash up front [20:55]
copumpkin which is what allows you to diversify like crazy [20:56]
usagi Smickles; I think a much better form of insurance for a fund is nav insurance. [20:56]
usagi We agree to (for example) 100 payments of 5 bitcoins a week, in return for a (say) 400 BTC line of credit. [20:56]
mircea_popescu nav insurance ?! you can't possibly be offering that ?! [20:56]
usagi It would indemnify your fund against short term capital loss. [20:56]
copumpkin so the main benefit of selling investment insurance over investing directly is that you don't need to provide money, because the risk profile is identical. This lets you invest in a million different things, and assume way more liability than you're worth (ultimate leverage), which is only sane to do if your investments are uncorrelated [20:57]
usagi mircea; the owner of an options exchange should know better :p [20:57]
usagi I could just as well sell smickles an option to buy out his fund at a certain strike price. [20:57]
usagi happens all the time. [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11890 @ 0.00090488 = 10.759 BTC [+] [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1410 @ 0.0009075 = 1.2796 BTC [+] [20:58]
usagi BTW we have sold a few options contracts and paid out on one already [20:58]
usagi we bought 1,000 shares of BMMO at .145 back when it was 0.08 [20:58]
mircea_popescu how exactly do you evaluate the volatility of a stock that existed for less than a year ? [20:58]
copumpkin me or usagi? [20:58]
mircea_popescu usagi [20:59]
usagi mircea_popescu; That practice is known as "ratemaking" in the insurance biz, mircea [20:59]
* copumpkin shrinks back into his copumpkin hole [20:59]
usagi it's not so complex but requires a detailed analysis. [20:59]
mircea_popescu i'm in awe of the irresponsible stuff that passes for finance. [20:59]
mircea_popescu usagi you're on very shaky ground here. [20:59]
usagi Well it looks irresponsible but you really don't know anything about it. [20:59]
mircea_popescu o yea ? [20:59]
usagi It's actually backed up on some very interesting statistics [20:59]
mircea_popescu i see. [20:59]
mircea_popescu so let's see, mpoe.etf is a fund that's worth ~1800 btc atm ? [21:00]
usagi copumpkin just said half of it [21:00]
mircea_popescu how much does it cost me to buy 1800 of btc insurance agaisnt their nav ? [21:00]
usagi So you wanna short them. [21:00]
usagi ? [21:00]
mircea_popescu no, i just want to show you that you're irresponsible. you sell me the insurance, i go put a block of 50mn shares of my own stock at half the current implied price and i've taken you out. [21:01]
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mircea_popescu please learn your fuckinglessons from the pirate fiasco. [21:01]
usagi Lol [21:01]
mircea_popescu lesson number one is that if you think you know more finance than me you're an idiot. [21:01]
usagi You're not very smart. [21:01]
mircea_popescu lesson number two is that you don't go by what you read in some wikipedia article about what happens irl. [21:01]
mircea_popescu that's not how finance works. [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 490 @ 0.0009075 = 0.4447 BTC [+] [21:02]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4710 @ 0.0009155 = 4.312 BTC [+] [21:02]
usagi You are getting agitated because I run an insurance company. That's it. You need to relax. [21:02]
usagi All in all we completely broke even on pirate [21:02]
mircea_popescu why do people do this ?! [21:02]
mircea_popescu it boggles. [21:02]
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usagi Even after I pay out the last 1100 coin contract remaining [21:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [GERBITIN.PYRA] 50 @ 0.9 = 45 BTC [-] [21:03]
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rg okay usagi, i have a couple thousand if you need em [21:03]
rg i usually dont sell til i get to around 8500 [21:04]
rg but difficulty has gone up so much [21:04]
rg 8500 used to be 1/2 week [21:04]
rg now its like 3.5 [21:04]
usagi rg thanks I am planning to buy them off you for my hot new killer app soon [21:04]
usagi I could buy as many as 5000 [21:04]
rg sure hopefully ill have more by then [21:04]
rg you could buy off chang too [21:04]
rg chang has a shitload of ltc [21:04]
rg way more than me [21:04]
usagi ouch. [21:05]
usagi hehe [21:05]
usagi I have a plan for that soon [21:05]
smickles http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Main:Current_events [21:05]
usagi One I finish my new interactive fiction masterpeice! [21:05]
rg i wrote a screenplay about bitcoin [21:05]
usagi once* [21:05]
rg i never let anyone read it tho [21:06]
rg basically the US collapses and joins the european union [21:06]
rg and the underground citizens start using bitcoin [21:06]
rg to avoid being tracked/taxed by the govt [21:06]
rg cause the EU has turned into a fourth reicht type thing [21:07]
rg its ... not very good [21:07]
usagi needs more desu. [21:07]
rg its just not an original idea [21:07]
usagi I have an idea [21:07]
rg Canada ends up nuking the EU [21:07]
rg (spoiler alert) [21:07]
usagi You could have the EU flee to the moon [21:07]
kakobrekla lol [21:07]
kakobrekla is this endoftheworld.swf ? [21:08]
usagi and build a moon base, and then 50 years later come back and invade [21:08]
rg the canadian union is umm [21:08]
rg iceland, canada, and alask [21:08]
rg a [21:08]
rg its been a while since i read it [21:08]
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kakobrekla (if you are not familliar http://www.endofworld.net/ ) [21:08]
usagi And during this time madagascar has become the center of world trade and finace. [21:08]
rg in my screen play [21:08]
rg all the african countries get renamed [21:08]
rg to european names [21:08]
rg OH i forgot the best part [21:09]
rg the fourth reicht, they dont kill minorities [21:09]
rg they have a machine that turns themwhite [21:09]
kakobrekla lol [21:09]
rg and all the characters in the book are IRC people [21:09]
rg vragnaroda is in it [21:09]
rg nanotube is in it [21:09]
rg mircea_popescu is the nigerian ambassador [21:10]
rg nigera aka Denmark2 [21:10]
rg we start filming in a month [21:10]
mircea_popescu o i can has ambassador sahs ? [21:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13800 @ 0.00089791 = 12.3912 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1426 @ 0.00038888 = 0.5545 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18964 @ 0.00038888 = 7.3747 BTC [-] [21:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7900 @ 0.00089791 = 7.0935 BTC [-] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.06 = 0.48 BTC [-] [21:29]
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Anduck hey guys [21:39]
Anduck who is payb.tc in irc? [21:39]
Anduck do he use irc? [21:39]
Anduck anyone know anything about him ? [21:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.1102 = 0.8816 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1101 = 0.9909 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.1101 = 3.9636 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.11 = 0.77 BTC [-] [21:40]
Wolf_L NOPE [21:42]
Wolf_L ;;ticker [21:42]
gribble Best bid: 10.75001, Best ask: 10.76998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 10.8, 24 hour volume: 37351, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199 [21:42]
Wolf_L Still on 10.75 [21:42]
Wolf_L what a load of bollocks [21:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 65 @ 0.01 = 0.65 BTC [21:42]
exahash buy some, it'll go up higher [21:42]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 50000 [21:43]
gribble A market order to buy 50000 bitcoins right now would take 577471.3123 USD and would take the last price up to 12.2157 USD, resulting in an average price of 11.5494 USD/BTC. [21:43]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 100000 [21:43]
gribble A market order to buy 100000 bitcoins right now would take 1265845.2707 USD and would take the last price up to 15.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 12.6585 USD/BTC. [21:43]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 200000 [21:43]
gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 150447.71 bitcoins, for a total of 1112962330.6030 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. [21:43]
exahash I could live iwth that [21:43]
exahash with [21:43]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 150000 [21:43]
gribble A market order to buy 150000 bitcoins right now would take 43206514.1319 USD and would take the last price up to 100000.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 288.0434 USD/BTC. [21:43]
Wolf_L lol [21:43]
exahash do it! [21:43]
mircea_popescu lol ya [21:47]
mircea_popescu do it. do it. [21:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+] [21:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+] [21:51]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 120000 [21:52]
gribble A market order to buy 120000 bitcoins right now would take 1575702.1023 USD and would take the last price up to 17.5900 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.1309 USD/BTC. [21:52]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 130000 [21:52]
gribble A market order to buy 130000 bitcoins right now would take 1768377.5390 USD and would take the last price up to 20.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.6029 USD/BTC. [21:52]
Wolf_L ;;market buy 140000 [21:52]
gribble A market order to buy 140000 bitcoins right now would take 2019344.0324 USD and would take the last price up to 30.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 14.4239 USD/BTC. [21:52]
Wolf_L So you could buy up to $30 at a $14 average [21:53]
Wolf_L Sell them at $30 if possible [21:53]
Wolf_L and profit even if it goes down a little [21:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 40 @ 0.11 = 4.4 BTC [+] [21:54]
EskimoBob ;;market sell 50000 [21:55]
gribble A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 486057.6760 USD and would take the last price down to 9.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 9.7212 USD/BTC. [21:55]
EskimoBob ;;market sell 500000 [21:55]
gribble A market order to sell 500000 bitcoins right now would net 1969654.2931 USD and would take the last price down to 1.1500 USD, resulting in an average price of 3.9393 USD/BTC. [21:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 3 @ 0.1785 = 0.5355 BTC [+] [21:56]
Wolf_L Anybody have GMVT-BOT to lend out? [21:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [+] [21:57]
mircea_popescu Wolf_L these things aren't very accurate you know. more orders would spring up [21:57]
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Wolf_L True. The exchange is too slow. [21:58]
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assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.10099999 BTC [+] [22:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 101 @ 0.08 = 8.08 BTC [+] [22:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1540 @ 0.00089351 = 1.376 BTC [-] [22:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+] [22:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+] [22:10]
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EskimoBob http://blockchain.info/charts/output-volume :) [22:25]
EskimoBob some serious coin moving is happening [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [22:26]
leotreasure wow [22:27]
leotreasure i think we're on the cusp of bubble v2 [22:27]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob that's mostly satoshi dice. [22:27]
kakobrekla its not nb of tx [22:28]
kakobrekla but its volume [22:28]
kakobrekla i dont think its sd [22:29]
mircea_popescu thing with transactions is [22:29]
mircea_popescu if i move 5 btc out of a wallet with 5000 btc in it [22:29]
mircea_popescu you might very well see 5000 btc move. [22:29]
mircea_popescu 4995 of them to another address of mine. [22:30]
kakobrekla yes [22:30]
kakobrekla but those spikes should be conusmed [22:30]
kakobrekla by share volume of small tx [22:30]
kakobrekla this is bigger. [22:30]
mircea_popescu hmm. maybe. [22:31]
mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions [22:32]
mircea_popescu the ntransactions is moving in step. [22:32]
mircea_popescu or maybe not. [22:32]
kakobrekla hm [22:32]
kakobrekla if we compare those two [22:32]
kakobrekla we can see something has changed in the output size [22:32]
mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/charts/blocks-size haha this is a dfunny one. [22:33]
Anduck mircea_popescu: why 20btc? [22:33]
Anduck why why why why why [22:33]
kakobrekla almost like global warmings hockey stick [22:33]
mircea_popescu Anduck sorry ? [22:33]
Anduck mircea_popescu: 20btc to register my gpg in mpex [22:33]
mircea_popescu o o [22:33]
kakobrekla you should use my refferal [22:33]
mircea_popescu well... i like money. [22:33]
kakobrekla or something [22:33]
kakobrekla :> [22:34]
Anduck kakobrekla what it is? [22:34]
kakobrekla sec [22:34]
kakobrekla 27AF75321F2489E8 [22:34]
kakobrekla key id is what mp needs afaik [22:34]
mircea_popescu nah you need the whole keyid [22:34]
kakobrekla well, http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=kakobrekla [22:34]
mircea_popescu i mean, fingerprint [22:34]
mircea_popescu not keyid sorry [22:35]
Anduck what do i do with this ? [22:35]
kakobrekla dunno :D [22:35]
kakobrekla i think just notify mp [22:35]
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mircea_popescu Anduck when you send your key via email mention it. [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.869999 BTC [-] [22:36]
Anduck mircea_popescu: i am not intending on paying over 200 USD to use your system, still. [22:37]
Anduck i prefer GLBSE or similar [22:37]
mircea_popescu that's fine. [22:37]
Anduck i would use MPEX if it wasnt that 20btc price lol [22:37]
Anduck its just waste to pay 20btc to buy shares worth of 10 btc [22:37]
kakobrekla hm [22:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html#13 for later reference. [22:38]
kakobrekla yeah [22:38]
kakobrekla Anduck, use my ref. and get 2.5 btc back :D [22:38]
mircea_popescu Anduck yeah, if you're doing that sort of volume it's prolly not worth your while. [22:38]
Anduck any info how can i buy the stock i want? [22:38]
Anduck without making acc in mpex? [22:38]
mircea_popescu you could use a broker [22:39]
mircea_popescu such as glbse, or otherwise smickles, brendio, scl. [22:39]
mircea_popescu i think there's more. [22:39]
Anduck how do these brokers maintain my shares? [22:39]
mircea_popescu well you'd have to ask them, wouldn't you ? i think they keep spreadsheets mostly. [22:40]
Anduck k [22:40]
Anduck and they pay dividends like a passthrough [22:40]
Anduck ? [22:41]
mircea_popescu well ya [22:41]
Anduck k [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOT] 3 @ 0.91 = 2.73 BTC [+] [22:42]
chmod755 http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Bruce_Fagner [22:42]
mircea_popescu lolz [22:44]
mircea_popescu Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will: Always address you by your first name. [22:44]
mircea_popescu suych bs. [22:44]
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mircea_popescu chmod755 re RapeHill > did they ever reinburse the users ? dja know ? [22:48]
chmod755 mircea_popescu: i have no idea [22:48]
mircea_popescu it's so odd how that dissapeared from the radar. [22:48]
mircea_popescu they were gonna sue dwolla and all... dwolla didn't seem to think much of it... the end ? [22:48]
kakobrekla clickin @ random page [22:50]
kakobrekla http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Mircea_Popescu [22:50]
mircea_popescu lol [22:51]
mircea_popescu i just realised that http://brucewagner.com/forum/index.php is practically an exact copy of http://polimedia.us/btcf/index.php [22:51]
mircea_popescu the fag stole my forum! [22:51]
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chmod755 lol [22:51]
mircea_popescu we should have a fag, where's my forum! reality tv show [22:52]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:56]
gribble Best bid: 10.792, Best ask: 10.8358, Bid-ask spread: 0.04380, Last trade: 10.8358, 24 hour volume: 31470, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 10.93199 [22:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.5601 = 3.1202 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.56 = 4.68 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.52 = 1.04 BTC [+] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-] [22:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.529 = 1.058 BTC [+] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.0939 = 0.939 BTC [+] [23:00]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.104 = 0.416 BTC [+] [23:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 28 @ 0.09389 = 2.6289 BTC [-] [23:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [SILVER] 3 @ 0.0095 = 0.0285 BTC [-] [23:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 32 @ 0.103999 = 3.328 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 58 @ 0.104 = 6.032 BTC [+] [23:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.104 = 2.08 BTC [+] [23:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104 = 0.208 BTC [+] [23:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 5 @ 0.52 = 2.6 BTC [-] [23:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.53 = 1.59 BTC [+] [23:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 40 @ 0.09389 = 3.7556 BTC [-] [23:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.104 = 0.52 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5299 BTC [-] [23:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.09399 = 0.47 BTC [+] [23:23]
DeaDTerra1 Join the first ever Swedish Bitcoin meetup in Stockholm now on Saturday! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83329.0 [23:25]
DeaDTerra1 I am going :D [23:25]
BTC-Mining dammit, that's too far for me [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36136 @ 0.00039215 = 14.1707 BTC [+] [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14064 @ 0.00039203 = 5.5135 BTC [-] [23:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0031 = 6.2 BTC [-] [23:36]
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mircea_popescu i dont think i could get to stockholm by sat if i started right now. [23:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 7 @ 0.07999999 = 0.56 BTC [+] [23:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.10001337 = 1.4002 BTC [-] [23:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 25 @ 0.10001337 = 2.5003 BTC [-] [23:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 72 @ 0.1 = 7.2 BTC [-] [23:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 10 @ 0.1015 = 1.015 BTC [+] [23:46]
DeaDTerra1 Too bad :( [23:46]
DeaDTerra1 Though 20 people are coming so far :D that's good :P [23:46]
DeaDTerra1 I barely know any Bitcoineers that are swedes [23:47]
mircea_popescu i thought sweden is overrepresented tbh [23:49]
mircea_popescu more bitcoiners from there than you'd expect based on populatyion [23:50]
DeaDTerra1 That might be true but I mean Swedes are always in the front of technology :P [23:50]
mircea_popescu orly :D [23:50]
DeaDTerra1 Haha I might be bias ^^ xD [23:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.093 BTC [-] [23:54]
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