Forum logs for 29 Dec 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
smickles mircea_popescu: face facts, you're winning [00:00]
mircea_popescu lol ok. i never got very far into ta [00:00]
Bugpowder yeah, I only get as far as to tell people 'you are drawing lines on a chart. you are an idiot. [00:02]
Bugpowder Damn. SP500 closed at 1402. [00:02]
smickles well, these bots Bugpowder was complaining weren't on s.dice too are probably running on TA [00:02]
Bugpowder Would have bot SP500 if I saw the drop [00:03]
Bugpowder Bigger dump if no deal though [00:03]
Bugpowder come on! [00:03]
mircea_popescu igot news for you mr [00:03]
mircea_popescu there's not going to be any deal and the stocks will continue to appreciate [00:04]
Bugpowder yes [00:04]
mircea_popescu they are completely divorced from any fundamentals, the nyse is currently running its very own version of the stock generation scam [00:04]
Bugpowder this is why I need to buy on the panic [00:04]
mircea_popescu comming up next, rule 42 or w/e the fuck [00:04]
smickles lol, i can see it now. continue to buy and hold until taxes are lowered again [00:04]
Bugpowder the only way to keep pace with the printing is to own stocks [00:04]
mircea_popescu taxes are never lowered again. [00:05]
Bugpowder taxes are never going lower than this [00:05]
mircea_popescu the us is headed straight for central planning. [00:05]
Bugpowder they are insanely low [00:05]
mircea_popescu haha werd. [00:05]
Bugpowder going over cliff is US's best hope I think [00:06]
mircea_popescu owning shares makes absolutely no sense. [00:06]
Bugpowder Also I don't mind paying more in taxes as long as everyone else must too [00:06]
mircea_popescu what do these shares represent ? the government runs the corp anyway. [00:06]
Bugpowder ;;calc (1402-666)/666 [00:07]
gribble 1.10510510511 [00:07]
Bugpowder 110% return from the lows to today [00:07]
Bugpowder not bad for an index [00:07]
Bugpowder of real money [00:07]
Bugpowder not game currency [00:07]
mircea_popescu i'm with jp morgan. [00:08]
mircea_popescu if i don't trust a man he can't have any money from me on all the bonds in christendom [00:08]
Bugpowder I somehow feel that S.DICE shares have more risk than SPY.... but.. maybe I am not with the new way [00:08]
mircea_popescu and i don't trust obama, bernanke and co [00:08]
mircea_popescu consequently, i own exactly 0 us equities. [00:08]
Bugpowder foriegn equities? [00:09]
mircea_popescu some [00:09]
Bugpowder Did the S.MPOE bot hear us and get turned off? [00:10]
mircea_popescu haha did it ? [00:10]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45101, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 13.45101, 24 hour volume: 22730.04896326, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44036 [00:10]
Bugpowder <1000 BTC ask at 13.5 [00:10]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [00:10]
gribble 13.36 [00:10]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135673209237.jpg ahahaha this! [00:12]
smickles lol [00:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+] [00:14]
smickles people, buy/sell my options offers, there's still plenty of time b/f maturity :D [00:14]
Bugpowder is settelment done with 24hprc, 24vwap, or spot? [00:15]
mircea_popescu 24hprc = 24vwap [00:15]
Bugpowder look up [00:15]
Bugpowder ;;bc,24hprc [00:15]
gribble 13.36 [00:15]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04878, Last trade: 13.45112, 24 hour volume: 22730.29997529, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44044 [00:15]
smickles Bugpowder: bc,24hprc [00:16]
mircea_popescu a [00:16]
mircea_popescu the ticker is mtgox only i think ? [00:16]
Bugpowder I think 24hprc is off [00:16]
smickles it's what is being reported by bitcoincharts [00:16]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [00:16]
smickles and that's what mpex uses [00:16]
mircea_popescu ya 13.36 it says [00:16]
smickles it was 13.33 only an hour or so ago [00:17]
Bugpowder I see [00:17]
Bugpowder volume is 10x on gox [00:17]
Bugpowder but other have prices down at 13.1 [00:17]
Bugpowder still [00:17]
mircea_popescu but im pretty sure it's a vwap, because of its behaviour when volume occurs [00:17]
Bugpowder 13.2 [00:17]
mircea_popescu so i think ticker is mtgox vwap only and 24hprc is all exchanges [00:18]
jurov ;;(14-13.36)/13.36 [00:18]
gribble Error: "(14-13.36)/13.36" is not a valid command. [00:18]
jurov ;;calc (14-13.36)/13.36 [00:18]
gribble 0.0479041916168 [00:18]
Bugpowder I sold 100 calls and puts at 14 for about .20 average [00:18]
Bugpowder happy [00:18]
mircea_popescu good move. [00:19]
Bugpowder very stable month [00:19]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [00:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04876, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 22742.72980548, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44065 [00:19]
thestringpuller lol [00:20]
thestringpuller ;;bc,24hrpc [00:20]
gribble Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command. [00:20]
thestringpuller smickles whats that command... [00:20]
smickles stable 2 months, i say, i sold about 40 contracts to the bot when they were 'N's at the beginning of the month and stand to make ~13% on them [00:20]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [00:20]
gribble 13.36 [00:21]
mircea_popescu yea its been remarkably calm [00:21]
mircea_popescu esp with the halving and all [00:21]
Bugpowder boom [00:25]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05885, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 23720.51157629, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44342 [00:25]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.53299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08187, Last trade: 13.53300, 24 hour volume: 23778.70373198, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44439 [00:26]
mircea_popescu boom ? [00:28]
smickles check the high [00:28]
smickles no... [00:28]
smickles that's been the high for a little while now [00:28]
smickles boom? [00:29]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZzBd41NuZw [00:29]
Bugpowder the previous high was a misprint [00:32]
Bugpowder it hasn't been about 13.50 for real for a while... [00:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00064 = 10 BTC [+] [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+] [00:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+] [00:41]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [00:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44996, Best ask: 13.49987, Bid-ask spread: 0.04991, Last trade: 13.49996, 24 hour volume: 23899.71614026, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44574 [00:48]
jurov feeling in the room is palpable [00:50]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [00:51]
gribble 13.37 [00:51]
smickles mircea_popescu: you should let the mpbor % leak ;) [00:52]
mircea_popescu lol [00:52]
mircea_popescu i dun even have it yet. [00:52]
smickles that doesn't stop most leaks, right? [00:52]
mircea_popescu ok. [00:53]
mircea_popescu eleventy % [00:53]
smickles lol [00:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+] [00:54]
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thestringpuller 11% lol [00:59]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [00:59]
gribble 13.37 [00:59]
thestringpuller i need a wife [00:59]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: talk me out of it [01:00]
smickles thestringpuller: that's 111%, actually, didn't you ever read Bilbo's speach at his birthday at the beginning of the hobbit? [01:00]
smickles er [01:00]
smickles 110% [01:00]
thestringpuller paraphrased: "i hate all of you goodbye" [01:01]
smickles it was his eleventy-first birthday party [01:01]
smickles lol, that + tact [01:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+] [01:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+] [01:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.00064 = 6.5376 BTC [+] [01:23]
jurov #bitcoin-assets before mpoe announcement: http://c.cslacker.com/587l.jpg [01:27]
smickles i'm the one on the far right [01:28]
jcpham meow [01:29]
Azelphur smickles: are all the SS payments done now? [01:30]
jcpham squeeze him Azelphur [01:31]
smickles Azelphur: nope, and there's one in the pipe right now [01:31]
Azelphur cool :P [01:31]
* Azelphur squeezes [01:31]
smickles i'm working on syncing the chain on that machine [01:31]
Azelphur :D [01:31]
jcpham mmmmm fresh lemonade [01:31]
mircea_popescu lol [01:35]
Ukto Diablo-D3: you there? [01:38]
jcpham afk mining on GTX 630's like a boss [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00064 = 2.56 BTC [+] [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064 = 6.688 BTC [+] [01:47]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [02:00]
gribble 13.37 [02:00]
mircea_popescu ahahah [02:01]
mircea_popescu leet btc is leet [02:01]
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kakobrekla Completed txs: 670 | Completed txs vol: 5093 BTC [02:13]
kakobrekla broke a pittyful 5k tonight [02:13]
Bugpowder coinbr? [02:18]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpoe-december-2012-statement/ [02:18]
mircea_popescu and it's out. good month. [02:18]
Bugpowder I KNEW IT [02:19]
Bugpowder the bond rate sure helpd [02:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064 = 4 BTC [+] [02:19]
mircea_popescu even if it were 10% it'd still yhave made profit. [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145000 @ 0.00064 = 92.8 BTC [+] [02:21]
Bugpowder ha [02:21]
Bugpowder getting in before the divvy [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00064 = 13.44 BTC [+] [02:22]
mircea_popescu lol [02:22]
Bugpowder those aren't the bot [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800000 @ 0.00064 = 512 BTC [+] [02:23]
kakobrekla campbx might have gone bad [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064 = 2.336 BTC [+] [02:24]
Bugpowder thats the bot [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00064 = 32 BTC [+] [02:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ 0.00000003 = 14 BTC [02:26]
Bugpowder fuck [02:26]
Bugpowder too [02:26]
Bugpowder slow [02:26]
Bugpowder 14BTC??? [02:28]
mircea_popescu bah i fucked it up [02:28]
mircea_popescu freeze everything! [02:29]
kakobrekla thats just assbot [02:29]
kakobrekla assfuckin around. [02:29]
mircea_popescu no i actually fucked it up [02:29]
mircea_popescu sent 10x [02:29]
Bugpowder no [02:30]
Bugpowder too late I spent it [02:31]
Bugpowder heh [02:33]
mircea_popescu lol [02:33]
Bugpowder everything is frozen [02:33]
Bugpowder my S.DICE buy is not executing [02:33]
jurov twitter says S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 14`252.99177745 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares. [02:33]
jurov quite a hefty sum [02:33]
Bugpowder well [02:33]
Bugpowder 13000 of it was to MP [02:33]
jurov and assbot needs fixing to parse romanian numerals [02:34]
Bugpowder at least now we know mp has 14000 BTC [02:34]
kakobrekla mpex needs to upgrade teh api interface [02:34]
smickles damn, my mpbor troll didn't work :P [02:37]
smickles maybe it did, and I spooked money into sensible bids, who knows [02:37]
mod6 yowza! [02:37]
Bugpowder there wasn't much volatility this month, so maybe that ment not a lot of exposure [02:38]
* da2ce7_d is now known as da2ce7 [02:38]
Bugpowder so mad I didn't get my other 280BTC into S.MPOE before the fuckup [02:38]
mircea_popescu well yes everything is frozen [02:39]
Bugpowder Total capital : 7`292.03, of which [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00346166 = 7.0964 BTC [-] [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 126 @ 0.00355333 = 0.4477 BTC [+] [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.00358687 = 4.914 BTC [+] [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.00358998 = 1.7124 BTC [+] [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00359072 = 2.334 BTC [+] [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12499 @ 0.0036 = 44.9964 BTC [+] [02:40]
Bugpowder there we go [02:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ = 1 BTC [02:41]
kakobrekla much better, a coin. [02:41]
mircea_popescu haha okai, [02:42]
kakobrekla fuckin broked shit [02:42]
mircea_popescu 5000infinities @ nothinghere = 1! [02:42]
kakobrekla yes [02:42]
kakobrekla didnt ya know [02:42]
kakobrekla hipstermath [02:43]
Bugpowder single precision [02:43]
kakobrekla perhaps "1" was indeed "true" [02:43]
kakobrekla as in "yes it paid btc" [02:43]
* jurov puts on protective gear and ventures into coinbr database to sort out the dividend [02:44]
mircea_popescu hey, at least assbot doesn't go around paying 15k btc instead 0f 1.5k [02:44]
kakobrekla :D [02:44]
mircea_popescu o hai jurov [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00063988 = 3.4528 BTC [-] [02:45]
Bugpowder in other news [02:47]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [02:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801 [02:47]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [02:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801 [02:47]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [02:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801 [02:47]
Bugpowder 13.60 [02:47]
Bugpowder 13.65 [02:48]
jurov done. fortunately that i don't trust stat stuff and initiate dividing the cake manually. [02:48]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [02:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12802, Last trade: 13.65000, 24 hour volume: 31339.88226787, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.66978, 24 hour vwap: 13.48579 [02:48]
Bugpowder 13:67 [02:48]
Bugpowder here we go again [02:49]
mircea_popescu 13:67 huh ? [02:50]
Bugpowder 13.67 [02:53]
Bugpowder $ [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [-] [02:53]
Bugpowder does split use 24hprc for ITM put deposit calculations? [02:53]
mircea_popescu plus some volatility sauce. [02:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063988 = 3.1354 BTC [-] [03:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8482 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4275 BTC [-] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006396 = 3.0701 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8944 @ 0.00063934 = 5.7183 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00063915 = 4.4408 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063909 = 6.0074 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063896 = 4.0254 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3260 @ 0.0006388 = 2.0825 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00063877 = 6.9626 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12627 @ 0.00063873 = 8.0652 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063833 = 7.9153 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063831 = 4.149 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063802 = 1.5951 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.000638 = 41.47 BTC [-] [03:16]
Bugpowder lol [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000638 = 1.914 BTC [-] [03:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-] [03:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.000638 = 6.5172 BTC [-] [03:31]
mircea_popescu eee the scalping [03:44]
smickles that 'volatility sauce' is annoying as fuck :P [03:56]
mircea_popescu i live to piss off. [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.000638 = 3.6366 BTC [-] [04:07]
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Bugpowder boring [04:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.000638 = 4.5828 BTC [-] [04:34]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52109, Best ask: 13.59974, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 13.52109, 24 hour volume: 32543.24138401, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.49578 [04:53]
mircea_popescu "bitcoin moves up on good mpex news" [04:54]
Bugpowder lol [04:56]
Bugpowder sure seemed like it [04:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.000638 = 3.4452 BTC [-] [05:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.000638 = 7.8474 BTC [-] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.000638 = 0.319 BTC [-] [05:11]
Diablo-D3 Ukto: yes Im here [05:12]
Diablo-D3 in other news [05:12]
Diablo-D3 https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20121228/01025121504/sf-wireless-isp-monkeybrains-tries-to-crowdfund-325-million-satellite.shtml [05:12]
Diablo-D3 :3 [05:12]
Diablo-D3 Ukto: btw, nefario just sent me my final list [05:13]
mircea_popescu are you consulting for them Diablo-D3 ? [05:19]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: please say you have a good punchline for that [05:20]
mircea_popescu that was the punchline omg [05:20]
mod6 lol [05:20]
mircea_popescu you dun think it's funny ? [05:21]
Diablo-D3 nope [05:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.000638 = 14.8003 BTC [-] [05:25]
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smickles alright, live test month of SOEBOT has begun! [05:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.000638 = 17.226 BTC [-] [06:00]
Diablo-D3 wat? [06:01]
smickles I've launched an options market maker bot in beta [06:01]
smickles go trade with it :) [06:01]
thestringpuller how much capital is behind the bo [06:05]
thestringpuller bot [06:05]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [06:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43475, Best ask: 13.49409, Bid-ask spread: 0.05934, Last trade: 13.49409, 24 hour volume: 34545.30775319, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48996 [06:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.000638 = 8.3259 BTC [-] [06:05]
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thestringpuller oh snap [06:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.000638 = 4.147 BTC [-] [06:07]
smickles thestringpuller: a bit over 100 btc for now [06:09]
mircea_popescu soebot ?! [06:16]
mircea_popescu smickles is it trading 1 option ? [06:17]
smickles heh, yeah, one on each side of each strike which it's targeting [06:18]
mircea_popescu cute :D [06:19]
mircea_popescu anyway, this is enough excitement for one day. [06:19]
mircea_popescu catch you all... next year ? [06:19]
smickles i'm fine with making 1/1000th of mpoebot's profit :) [06:19]
mircea_popescu im kinda impressed with mpoebot tbh [06:20]
mircea_popescu how many trade bots get to be over one year old ? [06:20]
thestringpuller a lot [06:21]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [13:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [13:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [13:01]
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kakobrekla fuckyea. [14:14]
kakobrekla http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~avivz/publications.html [14:15]
kakobrekla https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541031_473590599354599_248671373_n.jpg [14:20]
mircea_popescu who;s he ? [14:30]
kakobrekla says on the homepage [14:33]
mircea_popescu ok but i mean... [14:33]
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kakobrekla dunno [14:35]
kakobrekla im talkin to one of his students or smth [14:35]
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mircea_popescu a ok [14:53]
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pigeons 638 is even more boring than 64 [16:44]
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kakobrekla who is the new owner of bitmarket.eu? [17:03]
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* Ukto pokes mircea_popescu [19:30]
kakobrekla anyone here using gox api v1 [19:30]
smickles "A node in the network has an [19:40]
smickles incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself, [19:40]
smickles A node in the network has an [19:40]
smickles incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself, [19:40]
smickles "A node in the network has an [19:40]
smickles incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself, [19:40]
smickles ack [19:40]
smickles whops [19:40]
smickles *oo [19:41]
smickles anyway, good link kakobrekla [19:41]
smickles kakobrekla: also, i use gox's v1 api from time to time [19:41]
kakobrekla smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133829.0 [19:43]
Ukto smickles: pm :) [19:44]
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smickles kakobrekla: i'm not sure, but I think they require valid user-agent headers too [19:50]
smickles oh, nvm, that was a silly answer [19:51]
smickles kakobrekla: i only do manual withdrawals, so I don't know how well I can help [19:52]
kakobrekla k [19:52]
smickles kakobrekla: I don't use that api call to gen a key [19:57]
kakobrekla hm? [19:57]
smickles I use the the site to manually fetch a key/secret pair for each app [19:58]
kakobrekla eh? [19:59]
smickles hmm, I suppose only withdrawal requires the HOTP? [19:59]
kakobrekla dunno [19:59]
kakobrekla imma gonna try v2 now [20:00]
kakobrekla lets see what error i get there [20:00]
smickles is there any documentation on v2? [20:00]
smickles at all? anywhere? [20:00]
kakobrekla no [20:00]
kakobrekla but i have a working function [20:00]
kakobrekla cause i have a special call [20:00]
kakobrekla only for me. [20:00]
kakobrekla ;> [20:00]
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Ukto ugh [20:04]
Ukto dont get me started on their api [20:04]
Ukto v1.. v2.. wtf. [20:04]
Ukto i have to use a half mix between them [20:04]
Ukto for weex [20:04]
kakobrekla do you have withdrawals working? [20:04]
Ukto i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes [20:04]
kakobrekla yeah well [20:05]
kakobrekla if you generate a code [20:05]
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kakobreklaa ;;seen Ukto [20:17]
gribble Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 minutes and 19 seconds ago: i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes [20:17]
Ukto ? [20:17]
Ukto was waiting for you to finish your comment [20:17]
Ukto :P [20:17]
kakobreklaa just wanted to see what your last line was [20:17]
Ukto oh [20:17]
Ukto lol [20:17]
kakobreklaa perhaps i was cut off [20:17]
Ukto [12:07] if you generate a code [20:17]
Ukto [12:11] * kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:17]
kakobreklaa 19:05.07 ( kakobrekla ) if you generate a code [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:05.15 ( kakobrekla ) you use withdrawal api [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:05.18 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v0 [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:05.24 ( kakobrekla ) you need to change [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:05.29 ( kakobrekla ) just as i need to. [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:06.09 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v1 you need to share how da fuck you gen code with it [20:18]
kakobreklaa 19:06.16 ( kakobrekla ) ;> [20:18]
Ukto i dont know wtf ver I use [20:18]
Ukto it was the only one at the time that I know of [20:18]
Ukto someone did a withdraw... 2? days ago [20:18]
Ukto dec 27th [20:18]
kakobreklaa ya v0 is dead by the end of 2012 [20:18]
Ukto I may just shut it down and say fuck it [20:19]
kakobreklaa ;) [20:19]
Ukto ill look in 1 sec and tell you [20:19]
Ukto which I am using [20:19]
kakobreklaa v0 prolly [20:19]
Ukto gotta finish setting up some routing real quick [20:19]
Ukto prolly [20:19]
kakobreklaa i doubt ANYONE has got v1 working [20:20]
kakobreklaa and if im right they better not close it [20:20]
kakobreklaa the old one [20:20]
Ukto v0 was so simple :/ [20:21]
Ukto the hard part was trying ot figure out the docs [20:22]
kakobreklaa ya [20:22]
kakobreklaa that fact still remains [20:22]
Ukto well [20:30]
Ukto seeing as the url is 0/ [20:30]
Ukto I assume its not v1 [20:30]
kakobreklaa correct [20:30]
Ukto so we have what.. 2? days? [20:30]
kakobreklaa v2 returns simmilar to v1 but has ZERO docs [20:30]
kakobreklaa ["error"]=> [20:30]
kakobreklaa string(45) "Identification required to access private API" [20:30]
kakobreklaa ["token"]=> [20:30]
kakobreklaa string(14) "login_required" [20:30]
kakobreklaa v1 is missing the OTP part [20:31]
kakobreklaa yeah according to their email [20:31]
kakobreklaa You are currently making use of a system which will be deprecated on Mon 31 Dec 2012 12:00:00 AM GMT: [20:31]
Ukto i didnt get an email [20:33]
Ukto heh [20:33]
kakobreklaa well i see in my code that btc2code is a 0/withdraw.php call [20:33]
kakobreklaa so i guess you fall in that category as well [20:33]
Ukto yeah [20:33]
Ukto i use mtgox_redeem and mtgox_createcoupon [20:34]
Ukto oh wiat, I wrote these functions [20:34]
Ukto LOL [20:34]
kakobreklaa ya [20:34]
kakobreklaa its a 0/withdraw.php post [20:34]
Ukto last touched may 30th 2012 [20:34]
kakobreklaa to get the code [20:34]
kakobreklaa so the email says [20:35]
kakobreklaa Old bitcoin withdraw method for withdrawing bitcoins is deprecated. Please use https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/bitcoin/send_simple or https://mtgox.com/api/2/money/bitcoin/send_simple instead [20:35]
kakobreklaa but no docu :> [20:35]
kakobreklaa tards. [20:35]
Ukto gox was one of the main reasons for why I am spending so much on my API documentation [20:36]
Ukto for BF && Weex [20:36]
Ukto fully interactive API documentation [20:36]
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kakobreklaa interactive api documentation? :> [20:53]
kakobreklaa cmon [20:53]
kakobreklaa thats not the important part here [20:54]
kakobreklaa hum [20:54]
kakobreklaa blockchain info can do api withdrawals too eh [20:55]
smickles blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently [20:57]
kakobreklaa but gox is free [20:58]
kakobreklaa here one needs to pay a tx fee ;> [20:58]
kakobreklaa cake is a lie. [20:58]
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Ukto blockchain also has issues [21:05]
Ukto and no responsibilities [21:05]
Ukto i have reported an problem with like 3 json responses [21:05]
kakobreklaa issues? [21:05]
Ukto repeatedly [21:05]
Ukto starting months ago [21:05]
Ukto that they didnt fix yet [21:05]
kakobreklaa which calls [21:05]
Ukto and no response [21:05]
Ukto mostly just json blockchain infos [21:06]
kakobreklaa i use it too [21:06]
kakobreklaa but i havent had any issues [21:06]
Ukto ill have todig it up [21:06]
Ukto 1 sec [21:06]
Ukto try http://blockchain.info/rawblock/1551 then incriment it to block 1552 [21:08]
Ukto their shit wont give block details above block 1551 [21:08]
Ukto which is completely useless [21:08]
Ukto because it doesnt work [21:09]
Ukto I ended up doing a lot of work [21:09]
Ukto to get the same data [21:09]
Ukto thats just one of the issues [21:09]
kakobreklaa it works again for recent ones [21:09]
kakobreklaa win [21:09]
Ukto sigh [21:10]
Ukto so they just chose to not have data for the middle [21:10]
kakobreklaa no idea [21:10]
Ukto so it only urns on the last block [21:11]
Ukto otherwise it give syou non rawdata [21:11]
Ukto 206 is there [21:11]
Ukto but anythen below the last block doesnt even give you a json error [21:11]
Ukto just a bunch of html [21:11]
Ukto its retarded as hell [21:11]
Ukto there are like 4 other things [21:11]
Ukto i can dig up later [21:11]
Ukto they just are not consistant enough [21:11]
kakobreklaa i use two calls [21:11]
kakobreklaa no prob so far [21:12]
Ukto that was teh most important one I needed [21:12]
Ukto and generally for blocks 2~6 blocks old [21:12]
kakobreklaa why did you need that [21:12]
Ukto simple way to verify random data :) [21:12]
Ukto for projects not yet public [21:12]
Ukto :P [21:13]
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thestringpuller lol [22:53]
thestringpuller were the dividends not large enough? [22:54]
mircea_popescu there was a large-ish buy right before [22:54]
mircea_popescu went on sale immediately after [22:55]
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thestringpuller heh [23:10]
thestringpuller the whale strikes again [23:10]
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Diablo-D3 being sick sucks [23:20]
Diablo-D3 as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this [23:21]
Diablo-D3 its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there [23:21]
Diablo-D3 anyone who didnt get a shot either didnt get this or has full blown flu [23:21]
Namjies Can't it be plain cold if it's not full blown flu you have? [23:22]
Diablo-D3 no, I dont get colds. ever. [23:23]
Diablo-D3 and flu is basically leathal for me [23:23]
Namjies How can you know it's not cold =/ [23:23]
Diablo-D3 I dont get colds. ever. I thought I said this. [23:24]
Namjies That's not a good arguments. You can't claim you're immune to every cold virus. [23:26]
Diablo-D3 its a tradeoff from having allergies [23:27]
markedathome Discuss: web forums are the biggest step back in communications. They are bloated 2MBs of information per page for what should be approx 1-2000 words [23:30]
markedathome bring back cosy/tin/trn/cix! [23:30]
mircea_popescu and mpex :D [23:30]
Diablo-D3 markedathome: its not the concept of forums do that [23:30]
Diablo-D3 *that do that [23:30]
Diablo-D3 its the shitty forum software [23:30]
Namjies How do having allergies prevent cold? O.o [23:31]
markedathome ? [23:31]
markedathome mircea_popescu: can i do ignore, prioritise, highlight,kill a thread? I don't think so :-) [23:32]
mircea_popescu ya well. [23:33]
markedathome Diablo-D3: it is absolutely the forum concept. a bunch of fucking idjits came along and completely missed the good things about threading in nntp/cosy/cix/bix/well and "re-implemented" [23:33]
Diablo-D3 Namjies: it isnt supposed to, its a side effect [23:33]
markedathome and implemented all the bad. static pages built at each page request from a database... [23:34]
Diablo-D3 markedathome: well thats the thing [23:35]
Diablo-D3 the static page only needs to be about 200 bytes bigger than the content [23:36]
Namjies there's no such side-effect of allergies O.o [23:36]
Diablo-D3 Namjies: trust me, there is [23:36]
Namjies You're telling me the fact your immune system reacts to certain substances makes it non-reactive to the cold virus? [23:37]
markedathome huh huh, well it uses mysql/progres-sql/db-de-jour, and php! and perl! and python! and ruby! and whatever took the "designer's" fancy that day [23:37]
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Diablo-D3 Namjies: allergies are an overactive immune system [23:39]
markedathome i'm surprised that no one had implemented a json decoder in xml for a brainfuck interpreted client running on java for a 3 page forum thread on the use of vinegar for descaling kettles. [23:39]
* markedathome wonders if you can tell I'm annoyed. [23:40]
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Namjies Diablo-D3 so how does that makes you immune to cold? [23:42]
Diablo-D3 Namjies: it isnt supposed to [23:42]
Diablo-D3 it just does for a lot of people who have severe allergies to stuff like trees and flowering plants [23:43]
Namjies Is that just an impression of yours or a scientifically recognized fact? [23:43]
Diablo-D3 neither [23:44]
Diablo-D3 a lot of allergen sufferers have noticed this [23:44]
Namjies It might just be that allergies and cold are hard to distinguish, having similar effects. [23:46]
Diablo-D3 they're not similar [23:46]
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Namjies [16:20] being sick sucks [23:48]
Namjies [16:21] as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this [23:48]
Namjies [16:21] its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there [23:48]
Namjies ... [23:48]
Namjies [16:23] and flu is basically leathal for me [23:48]
Namjies If that's not flu nor cold, what the hell is it then? [23:49]
Diablo-D3 flu like symptoms [23:50]
Diablo-D3 Ive never gotten it before [23:50]
Namjies Well might be your first ever cold... some people rarely get symptoms and usually have asymptomatic colds. [23:50]
Diablo-D3 most likely not [23:51]
Namjies Well the two can be nearly identical, except for severity. [23:54]
Diablo-D3 this feels like flu [23:55]
Diablo-D3 Im just still alive [23:55]
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Namjies If you have flu, you'd probably be sick like hell. Colds already feel like hell sometimes. [23:56]
Diablo-D3 no, when I was a kid and got the flu, I would be in bed sick for 2 weeks [23:56]
Diablo-D3 and everything would hurt [23:56]
Diablo-D3 and my nose would flow with snot constantly [23:56]
Diablo-D3 its the curse of being a severe asthamtic [23:56]
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asa1024 I have COPD and the docs wanted me to get a flu shot. I passed on it. [23:57]
Namjies yes. Hence why I'm proposing cold... the symptoms are mostly identical, except for severity and headache/muscle aches which are more frequent with flu. [23:58]
Diablo-D3 asa1024: trust me, get it [23:59]
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