Forum logs for 28 Sep 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2015#1286738 << clearly, people get incredibly bored in prison. [02:38]
assbot Logged on 27-09-2015 16:16:35; punkman: " If I was to keep him from kidnapping those two women, which he'd do if I didn't turn myself over to him, I was going to have to turn myself over to the DOJ folks, so they could take the appropriate action to protect those people, and maybe even figure out just who this sick fuck was, and stop him." << cool story bro [02:38]
mircea_popescu shit reads like any re-narrative attempt from none too bright 12 yos trying to fit in. [02:38]
mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/slipperynipple/ << bwahahaha [02:40]
assbot The Slippery Nipple ... ( http://bit.ly/1MTdEzH ) [02:40]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2015#1286782 << sveet. [02:57]
assbot Logged on 27-09-2015 22:06:11; trinque: I've written a nice little parser in ply that'll handle that and also messages to interact with the buy/sell board. [02:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2015#1286787 << cool beans jurov. iirc you had a little extra payment for previous pass, dja figure it's fair we call it even on that score ? [02:58]
assbot Logged on 27-09-2015 22:31:28; jurov: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ has Eulora 0.1.1 win32 binaries nao, testers welcome [02:58]
mircea_popescu So, right there, VW diesel owners have a pretty ironclad case for what boils down to speculative financial compensation: the difference between what the cars 'would have been worth' if this flaw hadn't been exposed and what they *are* worth -- which is zero, if only because no one in their right mind would buy one (and in many cases reale may now be forbidden by law) << what ? [03:02]
mircea_popescu i would very much in my right mind buy one. what the fuck do i care about all the bullshit ? [03:02]
mircea_popescu "So those vehicles -- 11 million of them and counting -- are damaged goods. They will *never* be able to meet environmental regulations. That means either (a) they'll need to be taken off the road or (b) environmental regulations will need to be rewritten to include a carve-out for VW diesel owners." << or ship them to pakistan. [03:03]
mircea_popescu anyway, vw takes the cake for fighting the insanity of statal overbearing. and the more insane it gets, the more of this will happen, until eventually maintaining even the pretense of "law enforcement" will become ridiculous. [03:04]
mircea_popescu but anyway, this is the path : expose the state to millions of unknown cases. trillions, if at all possible. [03:04]
mircea_popescu let it fuck the dilemma of "do we grandfather or what now!". [03:04]
mircea_popescu fuck'em. [03:04]
mircea_popescu fascinating that the author manages to go through all that without at any point rising to the very moderate level of awareness that's included in the observation that "all this retarded pseudo-legalistic bullshit just ate its own tail, and now ill have to go. vw shot it in the head, thanks god." [03:11]
mircea_popescu no, he's derping on and on about patent fucking nonsense such as "Conceivably, one could compound that by overlaying 'network'-oriented jurisdictional issues -- for example, the use of telecom systems to transmit information (from software to managerial decisions) with an intent to deceive and defraud." [03:11]
mircea_popescu really ? gtfo. [03:11]
* BingoBoingo can't wait for the kits to make a VW Golf "Roll Coal" come out [03:18]
BingoBoingo It would be adorable. A little hatchback putting out soot with the best of them [03:20]
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punkman http://etc.ancient.eu/2015/09/24/giglamesh-enkidu-humbaba-cedar-forest-newest-discovered-tablet-v-epic/ [03:32]
assbot The newly discovered tablet V of the Epic of Gilgamesh ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gbv56A ) [03:32]
VariaVarietatis sup mircea_popescu [03:32]
VariaVarietatis have a feeling end is near so to speak [03:33]
punkman whose end? [03:33]
VariaVarietatis no ones end [03:33]
BingoBoingo Oh shit No one is going to end! [03:41]
VariaVarietatis BingoBoingo: can no one even die? [03:44]
BingoBoingo You hinted we might be finding out [03:44]
VariaVarietatis maybe of an aneurysm thats how i'd see a nobody dying [03:47]
BingoBoingo Wait, nobody is dying now? WHat happened to no one? [03:50]
VariaVarietatis oh i'm sloppy tonight surfing the blogs made me want to chat [03:50]
VariaVarietatis BingoBoingo: noticed you liked baseball did Babe Ruth really point out where he was going to hit homeruns before batting is that just a folk tail? [03:52]
BingoBoingo VariaVarietatis: Well it happened at least once. [03:52]
VariaVarietatis BingoBoingo: was it in a big game? [03:53]
BingoBoingo I dun remember off the top of my head. [03:53]
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VariaVarietatis was wonder if a phone screen could cuase a seizure with right flicker and heartbeat thats why I was looking for mircea_popescu [04:01]
VariaVarietatis been back surfing alex jones last few days so to speak [04:02]
VariaVarietatis guy is quite the showman not so big on facts [04:03]
BingoBoingo was wonder if a phone screen could cuase a seizure with right flicker and heartbeat thats why I was looking for mircea_popescu << In people with photosensitive epilepsy 4-6 hertz of flashing can trigger seizures [04:03]
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BingoBoingo VariaVarietatis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babe_Ruth%27s_called_shot [04:08]
assbot Babe Ruth's called shot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJ8P5g ) [04:08]
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cazalla VariaVarietatis, read about his divorce? [04:24]
cazalla !up VariaVarietatis [04:26]
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BingoBoingo http://fatalvision.com/simulation-goggles/marijuana-simulation-experience.html lol [04:26]
assbot Fatal Vision® Marijuana Simulation Experience | Marijuana Goggle | Drug Goggle | Drug Education ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJbmw5 ) [04:26]
VariaVarietatis I never noticed marijuana have any sort of effect like that [04:27]
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BingoBoingo Well the point is more likely to sell fear to the children [04:37]
BingoBoingo Or else they'd be selling them for recreational use [04:38]
mircea_popescu onoes teh end is nigh [05:04]
* mircea_popescu checks the eth prices, the only thing that can cheer up a man in these dark times. [05:04]
mircea_popescu oshit, look at that, in other news trump is no longer shorter odds than 1 on bitbet. [05:05]
mircea_popescu question : how many days of 15% straight drops does it need for ethereum to reach 0 ? [05:10]
mircea_popescu answer : ETHEREUM CAN NEVER REACH ZERO BECAUSE IT IS A TECHONOLOLOLOL [05:11]
cazalla i guess alien head will no longer be trumpin' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRWOPh55Jo [05:13]
assbot Donald Trump "Trumpin" - BITCOIN - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZNmcQ ) [05:13]
mircea_popescu what's "trumpin" ? [05:14]
mircea_popescu and who's alienhead, buterin or trump ? tbf trump's head is mostly local, with the exception of the venusian hairpiece of course. [05:14]
cazalla buterin is alienhead [05:15]
mircea_popescu we prolly just don't understand 20something yo aesthetics. [05:16]
punkman https://josauder.github.io/procedural_city_generation/ [05:20]
assbot Procedural City Generation in Python - Documentation — procedural_city_generation 0.1 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZNPeQ ) [05:20]
punkman http://kerningcultures.com/episodes/lebanese-startup-scene [05:29]
assbot Kerning Cultures ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZOr4a ) [05:29]
mircea_popescu ahaha what. [05:29]
mircea_popescu start up and gtfo, lebanon's the next syria [05:29]
mircea_popescu "If you set aside the sociopolitical factors beyond your control, you’re left with daily inconveniences of fragmented infrastructure like electricity cuts of up to 6 hours, regular water shortages in the summer and fall, and an average internet speed of 3.11 Mbps – to put things slightly in perspective, estimates abound that doubling Lebanon’s [05:30]
mircea_popescu internet bandwidth could improve GDP by 0.6%." [05:30]
mircea_popescu fucktard. how are any of these under your control. [05:30]
BingoBoingo Even Weev figured out he had to gtfo Lebanon [05:31]
punkman "Ten years ago, however, very few Lebanese were starting high-risk, fail-fast, profits-after-5-years companies like their present-day entrepreneur counterparts. “We didn’t have this culture of entrepreneurship,”" [05:31]
mircea_popescu so basically lebanon is the new hope in the usg middle east desperation ? [05:32]
mircea_popescu it won't fucking work, lebanon is the equivalent of new mexico. about as defensible as a bowl of china. [05:32]
punkman maybe UAE is a better lebanon [05:32]
cazalla that lebanese chicken ain't too bad though [05:33]
mircea_popescu hahaha the saudis have had all the ustardism they can stand for. [05:33]
punkman dubai is kinda startup-y [05:34]
mircea_popescu sure, dubai would be. [05:35]
BingoBoingo dubai is kinda startup-y << First rule of being a start-up-y place is high rent and cost of living. Burns the capital faster. [05:36]
mircea_popescu dubai itself is one major arab startup in the hotel industry. [05:36]
mircea_popescu and i mean major. [05:36]
mircea_popescu https://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/24#l1443125163.0 <<< ahahaha gavin is back in #bitcoin-dev [05:37]
assbot BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZP2D0 ) [05:37]
mircea_popescu he's like a latter day george costanza this dude, "he never quit". just hjas a great sense of humour. [05:37]
punkman "when you poop in the Burj Khalifa, that waste is actually trucked out of the city. Trucked out of the city! " << creates jobs [05:38]
mircea_popescu myeah. [05:39]
punkman "a full building with 35,000 people would produce 7 tons of poop per day, plus all the additional wastewater for showers, brushing your teeth and so on, totaling up to 15 tons per day of wastewater." [05:39]
mircea_popescu really, 22 tons is not terrible. [05:40]
mircea_popescu if you don't make enough out of 35k schmucks to pay for one tanker truck you'rfe in trouble. [05:40]
mircea_popescu however. i do not think i EVER showered in less than a cubic meter of water. if people are half-like me, we're talking 17k tons a day, not 15. [05:41]
mircea_popescu and if you do the math, the per-capita water coming out of 15 tons would be under half a liter. ie, not even enough to drink. [05:41]
punkman ton of water per shower? how many hours does that take? [05:41]
mircea_popescu bout half an hour. [05:42]
punkman that'd have to be a pretty big shower hose [05:42]
mircea_popescu btcdrak i left him a little http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/28#l1443429445.0 [05:43]
assbot BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZPsJJ ) [05:43]
mircea_popescu How many gallons of water does an average 10 minute shower use? [05:43]
mircea_popescu askville.amazon.com/...water...shower/AnswerViewer.do?...‎ [05:43]
mircea_popescu If your house was built in (<1980 is 5-7, 1981-1991 is 3.5, 1992> is 2.5) the standard flow for showerheads then was 5-7/3.5/2.5 gallons per minute. [05:43]
mircea_popescu the future never came to me. i generally get 7 to 10, and a coupla hundred galons is, if you do the math, just about one ton. [05:44]
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mircea_popescu (and random discussion YET AGAIN undercovers the well lied about ustardian poverty. hey random schmuck, did you know your DAD could afford 5x the water that may be wasted on your stupid head ? forged granpa.) [05:51]
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cazalla no doubt mircea_popescu has a commando 450 [05:55]
punkman I got two m^3 tanks, they tend to last for a few days [05:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 710 @ 0.00478583 = 3.3979 BTC [+] {6} [06:23]
punkman http://www.anonymousswisscollector.com/2015/09/the-orpheus-clock-by-simon-goodman.html [06:35]
assbot The Orpheus Clock by Simon Goodman ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jy43GE ) [06:35]
punkman "There is a serious amount of press focused on issues related to Nazi-era forced art sales from Jewish owners during the 1930s and 1940s. There is a general art market fear of the possibility of Nazi-looted art and whole provenance departments have grown up in museums, auction houses, law firms, etc to deal with the possibility that there might be a claim from heirs to any bit of art." [06:35]
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shinohai http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/27/using-the-blockchain-to-the-fight-crime-and-save-lives/ <<< made me gag on Monday morning. [07:15]
assbot Using The Blockchain To Fight Crime And Save Lives | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jy6Csn ) [07:15]
shinohai Next they shall endorse TradeFortress' newest empire, with plenty of donations. [07:15]
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mircea_popescu what else are they for. [07:28]
BingoBoingo Next they shall endorse TradeFortress' newest empire, with plenty of donations. << Again [07:31]
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cazalla if clock boy can build cpus, why can't alf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48415OeDdg [07:35]
assbot I built more stuff that's very complicated like...CPUs and soldering them - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1iVMFqu ) [07:35]
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mircea_popescu !up unbanksy [07:40]
-assbot- You voiced unbanksy for 30 minutes. [07:40]
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unbanksy http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/11/19/edfe8624-da44-4332-80f8-17c652bb85c7/resize/570xauto/7e0e2f4e9cab97d6d8e9b3ce7c8c49cd/telstrapublicwifiphonebooth.jpg [07:41]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iVN9Nn ) [07:41]
davout guten morgen [07:43]
mircea_popescu hola. [07:44]
davout thanks for the comments on the remittance 'rfc' [07:46]
davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285109 <<< i guess there's a balance to be had between an overly general document and something that can be used as a base to implement right away [07:47]
assbot Logged on 25-09-2015 00:33:51; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284827 << he has a point. the notion of putting http in there but then going "The settlement part isn’t covered by the document, for the pretty simple reason that settlement is a business matter, not a technical challenge. It would also vastly complicate everything." is pretty wild. [07:47]
davout re jurov's comments suggesting an mpex-style API, there's a slot for signed receipts in the returned JSON [07:48]
mircea_popescu nobody that i know of uses http for remittance. [07:48]
davout you can use https without necessarily relying on the PKI [07:50]
davout the advantage of the mpex-style API is that everything is "receipt'ified" by default [07:50]
mircea_popescu generally people tend to create their own private tunnels. [07:52]
mircea_popescu at least from what i've seen [07:52]
davout tbh i don't think there's that much difference between "I use an https API of which I've validated the cert fingerprint, and include GPG-signed receipts in the responses themselves" vs. "I wrap everything in GPG" [07:54]
davout i'll think about it some more [07:54]
mircea_popescu there's at least one huge difference. [07:55]
mircea_popescu for reasons discussed here on occasion you won't want to expose automatically generated signed matter in plain text. [07:55]
davout would you have a link to one of these threads at hand? [07:56]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-08-2015#1228090 for instance. [08:02]
assbot Logged on 06-08-2015 22:09:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-08-2015#1228030 << to expound on this for the log readership : it is not trivial but definitely feasible to cause any running implementation of asymmetric cryptography to leak key bits if it is possible to direct encrypted matter at it in an automatic fashion and have live access to the results somehow. this theoretical fact is practically verifi [08:02]
davout tyvm [08:02]
davout conclusion being "don't echo stuff back" if I read this correctly [08:04]
mircea_popescu somethinglikethat. [08:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00072693 = 25.806 BTC [-] [08:44]
punkman http://knowledge.zurich.com/cyber-risk/cyber-costs-threaten-to-exceed-benefits/ "Could the Internet cost your business more than it’s worth? A new report offers a surprising answer that you won’t want to miss." [08:52]
assbot Cyber costs threaten to exceed benefits - Industry Knowledge Hub - Zurich Insurance Group ... ( http://bit.ly/1WsYYc9 ) [08:52]
davout "let's give a bunch of five years old some charts and crayons, see what trends they can come up with" [08:54]
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mircea_popescu i believe this is true by now for the average business. [09:01]
mircea_popescu pretty much every groupon "customer" is in this situation. [09:01]
mircea_popescu etc. [09:01]
mircea_popescu certainly most "vc" funds are spending more on "the internet" than they will ever make back. [09:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24258 @ 0.00072684 = 17.6317 BTC [-] {3} [09:33]
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punkman http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/28/us-spain-catalonia-idUSKCN0RQ0RN20150928 [09:37]
assbot Victorious Catalan separatists claim mandate to break with Spain [09:37]
mircea_popescu o hey. [09:51]
mircea_popescu cascadia next ? [09:51]
davout looks a bit like bitcoin miners voting for BIPs [09:52]
mircea_popescu lol [09:53]
mircea_popescu voting. [09:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00073092 = 27.8481 BTC [+] {3} [10:54]
jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1286824 yep. [11:01]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 05:56:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2015#1286787 << cool beans jurov. iirc you had a little extra payment for previous pass, dja figure it's fair we call it even on that score ? [11:01]
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mircea_popescu cool. [11:02]
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thestringpuller https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/011205.html << "Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped." cuz SPV wallets. [11:24]
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davout as if someone still cares about hearn's opinion [11:26]
thestringpuller i still find it amusing [11:29]
davout it is! [11:31]
Naphex https://www.sie.ro/rcd2015/index.html [11:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P1t4kG ) [11:34]
Naphex for the lulz [11:34]
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Naphex https://www.sie.ro/rcd2015/InvitedSpeakers.html [11:34]
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Naphex oh yeah here it is https://www.sie.ro/rcd2015/Workshop.html [11:36]
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Naphex Invites Speakers Mike Hearn, Vinumeris, "Challenges in securing digital cash" [11:37]
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fluffypony awwww mircea_popescu got a mention [16:00]
fluffypony https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/09/28/the-evolution-of-ethereum/ [16:00]
assbot The Evolution of Ethereum - Ethereum Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmCPtq ) [16:00]
Naphex lol [16:03]
Naphex dapps [16:03]
trinque "First of all, it is indeed true that the foundation???s finances are limited" << anditsgone.jpg [16:04]
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BingoBoingo Oh shit! Expenses of 410,000 CHF a month and only 200,000 Swisscoin on their balance sheet. [16:23]
kakobrekla how many lamborghinis in their lamborghini account? [16:25]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Prolly 2, though they may be Ferrari people [16:30]
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BingoBoingo kakobrekla: I don't think they actually have any functional cars in their livery though. They prolly tried converting them to run on an alternative fuel and got butthurt when the Ether ended up detonating in their fuel line. [16:33]
ben_vulpes http://eev.ee/blog/2015/09/17/the-sad-state-of-web-app-deployment/ [16:37]
assbot The sad state of web app deployment / fuzzy notepad ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcXAkm ) [16:37]
deedbot- [Qntra] Buterin's Waterfall Nearly Spent - http://qntra.net/2015/09/buterins-waterfall-nearly-spent/ [16:46]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: Thank you for that lead [16:47]
fluffypony kakobrekla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GIwTG8V-Ko& [16:47]
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fluffypony BingoBoingo: pleasure [16:47]
punkman ben_vulpes: sure sad, but I don't see that derpy rails "devs" would make anything better if they chanced upon better tools [17:01]
BingoBoingo lol https://archive.is/1iqvr [17:06]
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trinque founded by nazis! [17:10]
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ascii_field http://motherboard.vice.com/read/carly-fiorina-i-supplied-hp-servers-for-nsa-snooping << mega-l0l [17:14]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1286827 << if you wanna buy ~all~ of them, whatchawaiting for, call ze germans [17:18]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 06:01:03; mircea_popescu: i would very much in my right mind buy one. what the fuck do i care about all the bullshit ? [17:18]
ascii_field anything less than that, won't keep vw alive [17:18]
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ascii_field (how many will pakistan buy ~at the current price~ ?) [17:19]
trinque so is she saying she should be elected, or executed? [17:20]
ascii_field trinque: depends on whether you are a terrurrrist [17:21]
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mike_c holy shit it's down to 1800 btc? what did they start with, 30k? [17:31]
mike_c what was that stupid multi-sig address they used.. [17:32]
mike_c hm, that looks like 0 to me. http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 [17:33]
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mike_c blog post: "how to blow 31k btc in a year" [17:34]
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BingoBoingo mike_c: Seriously [17:44]
mike_c but, you know, he's already got 16k btc ready for his next waterfall: https://sale.augur.net/ [17:46]
assbot Augur - Fund the Future ... ( http://bit.ly/1VjwC75 ) [17:46]
BingoBoingo FUCKING COCKSUCKING PEDONIGGERS FUNDING THIS RETARD [17:46]
BingoBoingo In other news craptop running a Stator build is now up to September 11th [17:47]
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mike_c however this time around he doesn't seem to be publicizing the address that 16k bitcoin is stored in.. [17:49]
mike_c trying to contribute with bitcoin results in a unique address being generated for your donation [17:49]
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gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1287008 << top kek [17:51]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 19:35:49; ben_vulpes: http://eev.ee/blog/2015/09/17/the-sad-state-of-web-app-deployment/ [17:51]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Ah, so they learned they don't want people to see their spends anymoar [17:51]
mike_c and/or they aren't even pretending to have the coin this time. [17:51]
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gabriel_laddel "We’ve been doing this for 20 years. We should have this by now. It should work, it should be pluggable and agnostic, and it should do everything right — so if you threw away the web gui, it would look like something a very tidy sysadmin set up by hand, not autogenerated sludge. [17:59]
gabriel_laddel Instead, we stack layer after layer of additional convoluted crap on top of what we’ve already got because we don’t know how to fix it. Instead, we flit constantly from Thin to Mongrel to Passenger to Heroku to Bitnami to Docker to whatever new way to deploy trivial apps came out yesterday. Instead, we obsess over adding better Sass integration to our frameworks. [17:59]
gabriel_laddel And I’m really not picking on Ruby, or Rails, or this particular app. I hate deploying my own web software, because there are so many parts all over the system that only barely know about each other, but if any of them fail then the whole shebang stops working. I have at least five things just running inside tmux right now, because at least I can read the logs and restart them easily. [17:59]
gabriel_laddel This is terrible and we should all be ashamed. No wonder PHP is so popular. How am I supposed to tell a new web developer that this is what they have to look forward to?" [17:59]
gabriel_laddel I love that these people *never* question the god-given axiom "all GUI development must be done on 'the web'" [18:00]
gabriel_laddel Bahaahahah the 2nd comment is from Joe Armstrong (created Erlang) and reduces to "yeah, I dunno". [18:02]
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ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: but i need to render this webview in a microsoft word plugin [18:17]
ben_vulpes 'cause i suuuure as shit ain't writing any more code than is necessary than to pry mword open to execute my "portable code" (as $newclient's IT dept refers to...everything) [18:18]
ben_vulpes any more *ms-integrating* [18:18]
gabriel_laddel fire the client? [18:18]
ben_vulpes nah [18:20]
ben_vulpes getting my fingers into 20-year infrastructure investment optimizations [18:20]
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phf this goes back to tom knight and the lisp machine koan. you can't substitute understanding, and every piece of your stack where your understanding is limited by "stuff is happening i think" is going to bite you in the ass. specifically you can't take an opaque blob that barely runs on dev's machine and expect it to cleanly deploy, and no amount of container is going to change that. [18:24]
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pete_dushenski noah smith ('noahpinions') continues to unintentionally entertain : [18:57]
pete_dushenski "What if the rich get richer because they know how to invest their money more effectively? New research shows that this may be a factor behind the rise in inequality." [18:57]
pete_dushenski "Differences in education are dangerous because unsophisticated people generally don’t realize they’re unsophisticated." [18:57]
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pete_dushenski "As society’s average level of sophistication goes up, information-driven inequality may increase. This will happen if informational advantages build on each other -- the more you know, the better you understand how to learn more. If that’s the case, then educating the general populace about finance might actually exacerbate inequality, instead of correcting it." [18:59]
pete_dushenski lulz. ergo, we're not going to teach personal finance in skool because it's unfair ! [18:59]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony hm ? [18:59]
pete_dushenski ben + pete's skool will most definitely teach finance ftr [19:00]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1287004 << just count the doors swinging up. [19:01]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 19:23:52; kakobrekla: how many lamborghinis in their lamborghini account? [19:01]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu "Ethereum now actually exists, and those who were lucky enough to take up Mircea Popescu’s offer to buy ETH from him that he doesn’t have at a price of $0.12 a piece are welcome to try their best to collect." << from ethblogthing [19:02]
mircea_popescu "those (that also don't exist)" ? [19:02]
mircea_popescu mmmkay. [19:02]
pete_dushenski with, holy moly, a link to contravex ! [19:02]
mircea_popescu lol cool. [19:03]
pete_dushenski first coindesk links qntra, now this [19:03]
pete_dushenski man, 2015 rulez [19:03]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Just typical fall drama season [19:04]
pete_dushenski to paraphrase the simpsons comic book guy : best. fall. ever. [19:05]
pete_dushenski though 2013 is a close second [19:05]
mircea_popescu watching club fed try to dig itself out of the pile of fake bitcoin auction and all that surrounding fraud, on top which is piled a layer of lying to jury every which way to cover up for actually criminal "investigator", on top of which is another layer of lying every which way to protect his co-conspirators, which are now coming to light... [19:08]
mircea_popescu hey, if the usg "law enforcement" hires some kickass pr it might even catch up to the sinaloa cartel by 2016. [19:08]
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mircea_popescu but so far they're in there with "arkan's tigers" and whatnot two bit thugs. [19:10]
mircea_popescu should be a pretty lulzy showdown, once they try and "prosecute" someone who's not hired straight from central casting. [19:11]
BingoBoingo !up thestringpuller [19:11]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field> anything less than that, won't keep vw alive <<< for my political needs a dead vw is much better than a live one. [19:13]
thestringpuller So Hearn thinks not everyone should read the bitcoin source code and advocates pseudoscience: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3motjs/bitcoin_block_size_analysis_using_real_data/cvh10d1 [19:13]
mircea_popescu holy shit it's down to 1800 btc? what did they start with, 30k? << "30k". [19:13]
mircea_popescu therein lies the conundrum. [19:13]
mircea_popescu but, you know, he's already got 16k btc ready for his next waterfall: https://sale.augur.net/ <<< "16k". [19:13]
assbot Augur - Fund the Future ... ( http://bit.ly/1VjwC75 ) [19:13]
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mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#c5162 << i happen to value the estimation of that anon bitbet commenter. i looked at the data source and to my eye he seems exactly on the money. [19:14]
assbot BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 52.17 B (28%) on Yes, 134.11 B (72%) on No | closing in 2 months 4 days | weight: 84`582 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OCUQVB ) [19:14]
mircea_popescu the budget of the entire scamolade is ~150 btc, and i doubt they're actually willing to burn all of it in support of this paycoin. [19:14]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1286899 << bwahaha [19:15]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 08:36:08; mircea_popescu: https://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/24#l1443125163.0 <<< ahahaha gavin is back in #bitcoin-dev [19:15]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski at least he could have the commo nfucking decency to make a new nick, like every dumbass / scammer before him. [19:15]
mod6 ^ [19:16]
mircea_popescu jewish mothers have a saying, something like, "stick to being honest, you're too dumb to be crooked." [19:16]
pete_dushenski alvin gandresen [19:16]
mircea_popescu i guess derpy amherst dude could have benefited from jewish mother. [19:16]
pete_dushenski even jewish lawyer wife [19:16]
pete_dushenski "16k" << with new address for every donation. lest inquiring minds look, see, and call bullshit [19:17]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1286833 << i quite like this angle. [19:18]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 06:09:56; mircea_popescu: fascinating that the author manages to go through all that without at any point rising to the very moderate level of awareness that's included in the observation that "all this retarded pseudo-legalistic bullshit just ate its own tail, and now ill have to go. vw shot it in the head, thanks god." [19:18]
pete_dushenski the size of the vw legal problem is too obviously too large for derpy bureaucrats with concrete boots to handle [19:19]
pete_dushenski so they really have no choice but to hand-wave the 'problems' away [19:19]
mircea_popescu no but seriously. at what point does the idea form that hey, minuscule "pollutants" out of extant cars aren't the problem. stop giving so many derps cars! [19:19]
pete_dushenski winterkorn should get nobel peace prize [19:19]
mircea_popescu it's clearly a square. one edge has been optimized pretty well. tiome to do the other one ? [19:19]
pete_dushenski govs are working on exactly that [19:20]
pete_dushenski munis on up [19:20]
pete_dushenski 'take your bike to work day' [19:20]
pete_dushenski 'national ride the bus day' [19:20]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu "Ethereum now actually exists" << what the fuck does this even mean ? [19:21]
mircea_popescu last i heard ethereum is today in a state that is generally worse than not existing at all. [19:21]
mircea_popescu somehow it managed to be worse off as "existoware" than it was 6 months ago as 6 months late vaporware. [19:21]
pete_dushenski this side of the pollution equation is being helped immensely by the crushing student debt that 'social scientards' are coming out of school with. still have to live at home. ride bike, take bus. what choice do they have but make being poor fashionable ? [19:22]
mircea_popescu how about make being poor very fucking sad, so they have SOME incentive to stop lying to themnselves about it. [19:22]
pete_dushenski best thing the post-secondary ustardian system ever did. reduce pollution. with debt ! [19:22]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: only the stupid have student debt, why pay for something you can't afford, or are not cool enough to get someone else to pay for? [19:23]
pete_dushenski obviously, more debt is needed in beijing [19:23]
thestringpuller I blame Obama for all the "everyone should go to college" bullshit. [19:23]
mircea_popescu yeah, by filling the country with a bunch of retarded assholes you wholeheartedly feel like driving over. [19:23]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, it's bush. [19:23]
mircea_popescu "no kid left behind". [19:23]
thestringpuller i think the kid eating glue is worse off now with that mantra [19:24]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the epic moment where a kenyan and a chinese agreed that "the us can't pull itself out of the shit without chinese support". [19:24]
mircea_popescu possibly most unamerican thing ever seen, heard or thought. [19:24]
mircea_popescu but hey, the party's over. all that's left of america are the fly shat pictures of granpa on the wall. [19:24]
pete_dushenski and that they won't 'cyberspy' on each other. myeah. [19:24]
mircea_popescu omfg! ETHEREUM BROKE THROUGH [19:25]
thestringpuller the entire point of college these days is to get laid it seems, which I dunno why you'd pay 10k a year just to get laid. [19:25]
mircea_popescu o never mind, i was holding the graph upside down. [19:25]
mircea_popescu they broke through 0.00025 going the wrong way. [19:25]
mircea_popescu -24% TODAY [19:25]
mircea_popescu to add to the -15% yest and the 10% day before that and in general... [19:25]
pete_dushenski halfway through 'django unchained' atm. if the locals in derptown texas couldn't imagine 'nigger on a horse', how would they react to 'nigger sells your papy's farm to chinaman' ? [19:26]
mircea_popescu clearly that blogpost convinced people [19:26]
pete_dushenski django's set in 1858 ftr [19:26]
mircea_popescu http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ << check out the one day for shits an giggles. [19:26]
assbot Ethereum (ETH) price, charts, and info | Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pexkvq ) [19:26]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: probably the same way people reacted to Dave Chappelle shooting a slave owner on camera in a skit. [19:27]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu 0.001 looking more likely by the minute [19:28]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: it all falls out of tvom [19:28]
ben_vulpes early exponential exercises [19:28]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller was that the black white surpremacist skit or another ? [19:29]
btcdrak the blood moon has come true for so many assets today [19:31]
trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxcwlW3rrkg [19:31]
assbot Dave Chappelle Killing slave master - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OCWOFl ) [19:31]
ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2015#1287111 << how about a wooden tmsr~ "stake" for sitting his enemies down upon? [19:32]
assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 22:17:58; pete_dushenski: winterkorn should get nobel peace prize [19:32]
mircea_popescu looks more like chappelle shooting a confused farmhand. [19:33]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller haha silky johnson! [19:33]
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pete_dushenski ben_vulpes branded merchandising, i love it ! [19:33]
mircea_popescu dunno if a peace prize so much. how about 40 virgins and a burning bed or what was it ? [19:34]
pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgRFQJCHcPw [19:34]
assbot Spaceballs (6/11) Movie CLIP - Merchandising! Merchandising! (1987) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OCXc6Q ) [19:34]
trinque chapelle did not deliver in that skit [19:34]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2014/11/buterins-waterfall-a-likbez/ << i had forgotten alf put all the work into this! [19:35]
assbot Buterin's Waterfall, a Likbez | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kn0Pqf ) [19:35]
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BingoBoingo no but seriously. at what point does the idea form that hey, minuscule "pollutants" out of extant cars aren't the problem. stop giving so many derps cars! << The used car market is finally starting to regain some price sanity after the "cash for clunkers" supply contraction. The confinscatadors may be planning to do a repeat except with more "fuck you" and less "$5000" rebate [19:40]
mircea_popescu the more they do of that, the less rope they have left. [19:41]
mircea_popescu this is the problem of "regimes", let's call it. a quest for oxigen, underwater. there's no more oxygen being added. [19:41]
mircea_popescu the more they move, the less they live. [19:41]
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mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3mpq6b/new_ethereum_blog_post_from_vitalik_buterin_the/cvh5kzh << at least SA is having SOME fun with it. [19:42]
assbot Dunning_Krugerrands comments on New Ethereum blog post from Vitalik Buterin: The Evolution of Ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1OCY5wi ) [19:42]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.74050826 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b34 [19:43]
BingoBoingo the more they do of that, the less rope they have left. << How they would do it is probably mandate the titles to the vehicles be converted to "salvage titles" or some other wankery that would make the cars illegal to be registered to drive on the road. [19:44]
mircea_popescu the overarching point being that whatever paper dickery they choose makes exactly 0 difference in the field. [19:45]
mircea_popescu there is no way to "fix things" by finding the right way to fold the paper. [19:45]
BingoBoingo Of course. There may be wankery in some places like California where the police are enlisted to pull over and impound such vehicles when spotted driving, but it is retards all the way down [19:46]
pete_dushenski http://thediplomat.com/2015/09/chinas-silk-road-initiative-is-at-risk-of-failure/ [19:48]
assbot China’s ‘Silk Road’ Initiative Is at Risk of Failure | The Diplomat ... ( http://bit.ly/1OCYPS5 ) [19:48]
pete_dushenski "Part of the initiative is to create around 20 cross-border Special Economic Zones. Khorgos, on the border with Kazakhstan, serves as a cautionary example: two years after the go-ahead China has built a city consisting of a number of multi-story shopping centers in the desert. In one of those buildings, for example, there are roughly one hundred shops, each one of them selling exactly the same product: fur coats." [19:48]
mircea_popescu no two fur coats are the same. [19:50]
mircea_popescu "Short summary from clicking the link: this dude claimed to know Ethereum would fail, so during the crowd sale he offered Ether at a huge discount to the official price. Since nobody took him up on this amazing offer of selling something he didn't have at a price cheaper than the price people were willing to pay to people who actually had Ether to sell, he declared victory. [19:51]
mircea_popescu Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. [19:51]
mircea_popescu In other words, he's a troll." [19:51]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:51]
mircea_popescu i... i happen to like this summary. [19:51]
mircea_popescu course, not nearly as heroic as "dude that has a bunch of other altcoins anal rings around his penis said ethereum's no different, and he had an open offer we mostly didn't take, and now it turns out it's no different and let's not mention the bitbet bet on the matter if possible." [19:52]
mircea_popescu but still. [19:52]
BingoBoingo ;;calc 1800*250 [19:53]
gribble 450000 [19:53]
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pete_dushenski http://432parkavenue.com/?state=views_1271 << $81 mn view anyone ? [20:05]
assbot 432 Park Avenue Luxury Apartments in New York City ... ( http://bit.ly/1OD2DCF ) [20:05]
pete_dushenski sorry for flash... [20:05]
pete_dushenski but worth it! [20:05]
pete_dushenski i still wouldn't want to live in nyc, but not least of all because it'd make me feel pretty poor. like alf poor. [20:07]
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BingoBoingo Poor pete_dushenski can't live in NYC because he'd feel poor, can't live in Detroit or St Louis because he'd feel like food. [20:25]
BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-honks-at-stopped-vehicle-near-carondelet-park-and-is/article_7b0ed67d-1ff6-5e94-b412-6df214eb0804.html http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-mugged-shot-after-leaving-cardinals-game-paralyzed-from-bullet/article_300320e5-a575-537d-8a5b-c899beff6cbd.html [20:25]
assbot Man honks at stopped vehicle near Carondelet Park and is shot, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOKA6z ) [20:25]
assbot Man mugged, shot after leaving Cardinals game paralyzed from bullet : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOKA6B ) [20:25]
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pete_dushenski BingoBoingo haven't been to either detroit or stl, but the former holds some appeal to me, at least as a tourist. [20:30]
pete_dushenski i mean, who wouldn't want to see a real live honest-to-goodness usian dystopian ghost town to see if the future is really that shitty or whether it's in fact quite liveable [20:31]
BingoBoingo Well, the problems emerge less from the touristing and more from the activities of daily living necessary as an urban dweller [20:31]
pete_dushenski and by 'the future' i don't mean 'the future everywhere' but rather a great many north american cities, particularly those focused on a single industry. [20:32]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo being a 'dweller' anywhere probably sucks [20:33]
BingoBoingo Prolly most North American cities have to look forward to: "It is the latest robbery in St. Louis in which the victim was shot even after complying with a robber's demands." [20:33]
BingoBoingo Most of the failing US urban areas have some sort of civilized carve out in the Downtown area, but they are becoming increasingly indefensible [20:35]
BingoBoingo "Mayor Francis Slay said Monday he would give Dotson "unlimited overtime" to put more police on the streets. Slay reiterated his goal to hire more police officers, but warned it may not be enough to combat what he called "a higher level of boldness" by criminals who are carrying more and higher-caliber weapons and who have little regard for consequences." [20:36]
BingoBoingo Philip Cook, a Duke University public policy and economics professor who has examined crime trends, said most gun robberies do not lead to violence but that perpetrators sometimes injure or kill to eliminate witnesses to a crime. "And in some cases it may have been purely gratuitous violence — what I called recreational violence," Cook said. [20:37]
pete_dushenski recreational violence has a long history amongst bank robbers and other 'pros'. highly effective means of persuation and, hell, gratification. [20:40]
BingoBoingo Of course and if they get caught in this situation they are just "taking one for the team" in the name of refining their machine for extracting value from Whitey. [20:42]
cazalla in other words, don't make a big deal outta it spider [20:42]
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pete_dushenski i'm off for a spell. cheers ! [20:46]
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phf fwiw lafond's opinion is particularly negatively biased since he lives in a city with such seemingly intentionally crippled police force. ramsey for example, former dc commissioner and now philly, has been pretty efficient at containment. [20:46]
phf (i'm saying lafond because that's where i assume most people here are getting their racial relationship information from) [20:47]
BingoBoingo Sometimes the City's just broken. [20:47]
BingoBoingo (i'm saying lafond because that's where i assume most people here are getting their racial relationship information from) << I've been getting most of mine from KMOX [20:48]
phf oh, hah [20:48]
BingoBoingo Lafond just makes St Louis seem less uniquely bad [20:50]
phf i spent a long time biking through north east dc and was friends with a dc cop at umd and i know that north east is hellhole ready to burst. i'd bike during day time and would have old black guys on the street corner go "whacha doin here white boy". but then i moved to philly and ghetto here is not north east nor baltimore by any measure. i can walk up to 69th street or kensington and as long as i'm smart about it, nobody will pay me any at [20:53]
phf tention. there's a wide range of ghettos, and those that are there, at the end of the day, how many black of service age is there. [20:53]
phf *how many blacks [20:53]
phf it seems like a particular type of american boogieman [20:54]
BingoBoingo St Louis was actually getting a lot nicer before Ferguson. Philly might just lack a rallying event [20:54]
phf nicer in a sense that gentrification line was pushed further out, or nicer in a sense that ghettos were becoming better places to live? philly for example has a large muslim community and Ethiopian community that pushing in the ghetto without necessarily turning it into polarising yoga and smoothies yuppie centrals [20:57]
BingoBoingo Ghettos were becoming nicer places to travel through, and gentrification was happening in South City as people got tired of insane commutes [20:59]
BingoBoingo Property crimes like snatch and grabs out of cars were bigger than ever, but people weren't getting broken as often. [21:00]
BingoBoingo It was still organized crime, but organized crime is always going to exist everywhere. [21:01]
BingoBoingo The surge in violence seems to have a more nationalist feel. [21:02]
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cazalla what's available to smash and grab from a car these days? [21:05]
phf in any case i'd be curious to watch breakdown patterns in philly. you have a lot of agents here, that are not just realtors. there's upenn, there's ethnic neighbourhoods, there's also a lot of "blacklivesmatter" hipster feminist areas that are deep in the ghetto territory. [21:06]
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BingoBoingo what's available to smash and grab from a car these days? << In Missouri? Firearms [21:09]
BingoBoingo http://epmonthly.com/article/the-right-moves-making-sense-of-icd-10/ << "ICD-10 could bring with it a 15% drop in provider revenue due to incomplete charts and claims rejections. Thankfully, a few basic principles can keep you up to date, and [hopefully]in the black." [21:10]
assbot The Right Moves: Making Sense of ICD-10 - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1h55i9y ) [21:10]
cazalla BingoBoingo, well that is far better than the casette player i had in mind [21:13]
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mircea_popescu "Mayor Francis Slay << nice name at least. [21:49]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He's a white guy. Been in since the last Black guy was voted out. [21:49]
BingoBoingo The last black mayor's father is on the board of aldermen though. [21:50]
mircea_popescu (i'm saying lafond because that's where i assume most people here are getting their racial relationship information from) << eh no they aren't, cmon. [21:50]
mircea_popescu welcome lulz. [21:50]
mircea_popescu It was still organized crime, but organized crime is always going to exist everywhere. << organised crime is one step down from government and certainly better than disorganised crime in all situations except those of extreme abundance [21:51]
mircea_popescu like manna from heaven sort of abundance [21:52]
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mircea_popescu aand it's 2.3 [21:54]
mircea_popescu "When blockchain technology will become more adopted by businesses, is an ether price of 100$ realistic ? (self.ethtrader)" [21:57]
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phf this sake i've been drinking put me in a foul mood, and orcs at the door rhetoric is depressing [22:13]
phf i know it's not just la fond, but he's particularly adept at this subject [22:14]
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