Forum logs for 28 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.079975 = 0.4799 BTC [+] {2}	[00:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.04522952 = 0.588 BTC [+] {6}	[00:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48970 @ 0.00088119 = 43.1519 BTC [+] {2}	[00:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23259 @ 0.00088154 = 20.5037 BTC [+]	[00:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29441 @ 0.00087939 = 25.8901 BTC [-] {2}	[00:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00403236 = 0.504 BTC [-]	[00:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00087918 = 26.9908 BTC [-] {2}	[00:42]
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Namworld	;;premium mtgox bitstamp	[00:49]
gribble	Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 26.8682043115 %.	[00:49]
Namworld	There you have it. 27% premium on Gox	[00:49]
Namworld	Almost	[00:49]
FabianB	;;premium mtgox btce	[00:50]
gribble	Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 27.3704087875 %.	[00:50]
Namworld	Almost -> Actually	[00:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24177 @ 0.00087856 = 21.2409 BTC [-] {2}	[00:52]
FabianB	hmm.. the bitbet proposition "MtGox premium to exceed 40 percent" might be too late..	[00:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02639997 = 0.66 BTC [+] {2}	[00:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.0262 = 0.4716 BTC [-] {3}	[00:54]
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jurov	make it so that it resolves as No if mtgox completely blows up	[00:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0262 = 0.1834 BTC [-]	[00:55]
jurov	to keep the suspense what will happen sooner	[00:56]
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FabianB	can't see the text anymore	[00:57]
kakobrekla	too much proposition comming in?	[00:58]
kakobrekla	ah no its there	[00:58]
kakobrekla	>MtGox USD price of Bitcoin to be 40 percent higher than any of the other major exchanges (BTC-e, BitStamp) any time before May.	[00:59]
jurov	it's approved? i don't see it	[01:00]
FabianB	nope, pending	[01:00]
Namworld	;;premium mtgox bitstamp	[01:01]
gribble	Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 29.5070472335 %.	[01:01]
Namworld	We might reach 40% TODAY at this rate	[01:01]
FabianB	that's why i say it might be too late	[01:02]
pankkake	or crazier, http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ might be sooner than we think!	[01:03]
pankkake	it can be mtgox or bitstamp	[01:04]
Apocalyptic	lol	[01:04]
FabianB	gox at 10'000 while stamp remains at 750?	[01:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC	[01:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [+]	[01:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23125 @ 0.00087792 = 20.3019 BTC [-] {2}	[01:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 70 @ 0.00402 = 0.2814 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 29 @ 0.00402 = 0.1166 BTC [-]	[01:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.07809999 = 0.6248 BTC [-] {3}	[01:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00087792 = 18.9192 BTC [-]	[01:22]
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Namworld	Fun thing, no more BitInstant	[01:24]
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kakobrekla	service was shit when it worked	[01:25]
TomServo	kakobrekla: did you mention a cherry switch sample thingy?	[01:27]
kakobrekla	i did	[01:27]
TomServo	Have a link handy?	[01:27]
kakobrekla	www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit.html	[01:28]
kakobrekla	does not include the newest 'green' switch	[01:29]
kakobrekla	but by description, that one is not for me anyway	[01:29]
TomServo	hmm. Guess you need to by a keyboard first?	[01:30]
kakobrekla	why is that?	[01:30]
TomServo	No?	[01:30]
kakobrekla	you can hold the switch in one hand or tape it to desk if you want	[01:31]
kakobrekla	to get a feel how it feels	[01:31]
TomServo	I spose so	[01:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0845 = 0.169 BTC [+]	[01:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0285 = 0.228 BTC [+]	[01:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44692 @ 0.00088033 = 39.3437 BTC [+] {6}	[01:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00404833 = 0.1943 BTC [+] {3}	[01:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00409827 = 0.2869 BTC [+] {2}	[01:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17044 @ 0.00088057 = 15.0084 BTC [+]	[02:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02894975 = 0.1158 BTC [+]	[02:40]
agorecki	.bait	[02:41]
ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/8907ed53f324fd43f9edf6578d73085f/tumblr_mf5to7siOC1qg205no1_1280.jpg	[02:41]
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nubbins`	hi	[02:59]
Duffer1	hola	[03:00]
nubbins`	so uh, bitinstant	[03:02]
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kakobrekla	instajail	[03:03]
dub	cockmeat sandwich tiem	[03:03]
dub	was just saying elsewherem been a pretty good news week	[03:03]
nubbins`	shremmy looks like a silk road customer too	[03:04]
dub	russia afraid of competition in its own crime and terrorism currency, no more buttcoin foundation..	[03:04]
dub	its al good news	[03:04]
dub	all*	[03:04]
Duffer1	wow so apparently there's new communication from Labcoin	[03:05]
nubbins`	have they adopted a meme animal?	[03:06]
Duffer1	no it was a threat to one of the LCSH members coordinating the complaint	[03:06]
nubbins`	sorry, lcsh?	[03:06]
Duffer1	labcoin shareholders, the body of bagholders helping to gather evidence for an italian criminal complaint	[03:07]
Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg4781380#msg4781380	[03:08]
ozbot	[LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)	[03:08]
Duffer1	first communication in months is a threat lol	[03:08]
Duffer1	some people are just evil	[03:08]
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dub	why not just have him killed	[03:10]
dub	cheaper and more rewarding	[03:10]
Duffer1	i'm not interested in violence	[03:11]
dub	no where near enough revenge killing in the bitcoin scene	[03:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1100 @ 0.00086894 = 0.9558 BTC [+] {10}	[03:11]
Duffer1	besides, having policia postale go after them is free	[03:12]
nubbins`	yeah, get the italian authorities to arrest a guy who owns a bunch of btc	[03:14]
nubbins`	they're notoriously un-corrupt, should work	[03:14]
Duffer1	it will be interesting to see what happens for sure	[03:15]
dub	he'll just throw them a loli bunga bunga party	[03:17]
dub	and all will be forgiven	[03:17]
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kakobrekla	alberto must be laughing his ass off shopping new btc scam site	[03:21]
Duffer1	they're probably busy devising their next scam	[03:22]
kakobrekla	labcoin was his fifth or so.	[03:22]
kakobrekla	that we know of	[03:22]
jcpham	oh labcoin turned out to be scam after all?	[03:22]
jcpham	how much did they net?	[03:22]
kakobrekla	jcpham you must be new?	[03:22]
jcpham	i'm 12 where am i	[03:23]
Duffer1	7000btc probably more, we suspect they traded on their knowledge of update timing	[03:23]
dub	lol	[03:23]
dub	awesome	[03:24]
jurov	aren§t they behind doge?	[03:24]
Duffer1	lol	[03:24]
Duffer1	that wouldn't surprise me	[03:24]
kakobrekla	nope	[03:25]
kakobrekla	doge is way ahead of albertos brainz	[03:25]
Duffer1	kako i've heard of bitdaytrade but what else was he involved in?	[03:25]
dub	bitscalper	[03:25]
kakobrekla	bitcoin rebate	[03:25]
kakobrekla	somescam.io	[03:26]
kakobrekla	what was it again	[03:26]
kakobrekla	kronos	[03:26]
kakobrekla	and umm zipzap or smth?	[03:26]
kakobrekla	zip something else perhaps	[03:26]
Duffer1	wow	[03:26]
kakobrekla	and there are 2 scams of him from before bitcoin time	[03:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00088188 = 16.8439 BTC [+]	[03:26]
kakobrekla	one was some anzo or enzo crapware ipad copy	[03:27]
kakobrekla	and the other was "adwords way before its time"	[03:27]
Duffer1	ya zenpad or somethin like that	[03:27]
kakobrekla	so, it was known labcoin was a scam before it was known alberto is involved	[03:28]
dub	bascially he's got the kind of problems only bullets can solve	[03:28]
kakobrekla	even then some people just didnt want to belive.	[03:28]
kakobrekla	some prolly still dont, even though raped by evidence.	[03:28]
dub	don't worry though, they hedged with activemining	[03:28]
kakobrekla	hehe	[03:29]
Duffer1	i forget if the bitfury revelation came before the alberto link	[03:29]
kakobrekla	what revelation	[03:29]
Duffer1	the ipo funds were used to purchase bitfurys	[03:29]
Duffer1	like a week after IPO	[03:30]
Duffer1	that's what they were using to fake the hashrate	[03:30]
kakobrekla	dunno	[03:30]
kakobrekla	avalons mebbe	[03:31]
Duffer1	it was both actually	[03:31]
Duffer1	3 avalons initially	[03:31]
kakobrekla	man where is garrett, i really want to hear what that shitface has to say	[03:32]
kakobrekla	all my trolls for nothing. :(	[03:32]
dub	has he gone to ground?	[03:33]
kakobrekla	i hope he doesnt pull a bakewell that is no fuckin fun	[03:34]
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kakobrekla	oh m y this is good:	[03:36]
kakobrekla	http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=420324.0	[03:37]
ozbot	SINOSIGMA-EUROPE.COM shipping problems ?	[03:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.04908 = 0.5399 BTC [-] {3}	[03:37]
kakobrekla	6th gen hashing http://oi40.tinypic.com/2lny42w.jpg	[03:37]
kakobrekla	much water cool.	[03:38]
dub	haha	[03:39]
dub	thats beyond straight scamming and into troll-scam territory	[03:40]
kakobrekla	lol	[03:40]
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Duffer1	why would they even bother?	[03:41]
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kakobrekla	as i figured out earlier, bitcoin is better than lsd, lsd only makes you think you can fly	[03:41]
dub	should string him along some more, water is for the water cooling unit which is shipping separately	[03:41]
kakobrekla	hehe	[03:41]
Bugpowder	"Today I've received a box full of bottle of water."	[03:41]
Bugpowder	hahahhahaah	[03:42]
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kakobrekla	someone fwd bitcoin419.com to that retardtalk forum srsly.	[03:43]
nubbins`	798	[03:43]
nubbins`	aww	[03:43]
kakobrekla	798?	[03:43]
nubbins`	used to trigger gribble	[03:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21089 @ 0.00088222 = 18.6051 BTC [+] {3}	[03:44]
jurov	no, assbot	[03:44]
nubbins`	or 719	[03:44]
nubbins`	i'm all mixed up ;(	[03:44]
jurov	796 :)	[03:44]
assbot	123!	[03:44]
kakobrekla	anyway i was referring to 419 scams	[03:45]
Duffer1	http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/27/marlboro-ad-eric-lawson-dies-cigarettes-smoking	[03:46]
ozbot	Marlboro ad man Eric Lawson dies of chronic lung disease \| Media \| theguardian.com	[03:46]
Duffer1	^ third marlboro cowboy to die of lung disease	[03:46]
nubbins`	maybe it's the horse	[03:47]
Duffer1	lmao	[03:47]
kakobrekla	its the hat.	[03:47]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4275 = 0.855 BTC [+] {2}	[03:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.46805498 = 7.4889 BTC [+] {4}	[03:55]
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mircea_popescu	maybe it's eating pussy and michael douglas was right allalong	[04:01]
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Duffer1	i think more research into the lesbian population is warranted	[04:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00415191 = 0.1619 BTC [+] {5}	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	ow hey who crashed s.mpoe ;/	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	haters.	[04:21]
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mircea_popescu	That also presumes bit bet doesn't keep records of bets and wouldnt share any << they're published on the site you know.	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	jurov transnistria isn't meaningfully outside of russia	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	oh labcoin turned out to be scam after all? <<< gotta love this guy, he's on top of the news like a fat woman on a large cake	[04:27]
Duffer1	hehe	[04:27]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol where's the waterbox pic from ?	[04:29]
Duffer1	poor guy bought no name asic company, they sent him bottled water	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	lmao nm i found it	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	hysterical.	[04:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 71 @ 0.006 = 0.426 BTC [+]	[04:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00088391 = 12.2863 BTC [+]	[05:01]
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mircea_popescu	jurov http://www.evz.ro/detalii/stiri/arestat-si-torturat-in-transnistria-pentru-a-si-dona-afacerile-oamenilor-statului-l-au-pu-1074628.html there's a fine example.	[05:06]
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herbijudlestoids	mircea_popescu: i couldnt translate the article, is this one in english about the same thing? http://social.moldova.org/news/vitalie-eriomenco-sentenced-to-12-years-of-illegal-detention-in-transnistria-240915-eng.html	[05:20]
herbijudlestoids	about 2 weeks older	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	pretty much	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	the gist being that they arrested some unfortunate schmuck on trumped up, secret charges and won't relent until he "donates" his fortune to the state	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	you know, like the us does it.	[05:21]
herbijudlestoids	ye	[05:22]
Duffer1	they don't need "donations" asset seizure in the US is one of the most lucrative mechanisms law enforcement has	[05:22]
Duffer1	you can lose your house over minor offenses	[05:23]
Duffer1	ces	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	same principle.	[05:23]
herbijudlestoids	^	[05:24]
Duffer1	ya they've streamlined extortion, they just go straight to theft	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	obviously the correct way to handle terrorists is not negotiating.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	which means you know, using bitcoins and not doing plea bargains.	[05:26]
herbijudlestoids	easy to say, but for those with something to lose or only in it for the lulz...not everyone thinks of themselves as a soldier	[05:27]
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mircea_popescu	obviously the permanence of evil relies on people being morally weak.	[05:27]
herbijudlestoids	once they know who you are, if they want you they only need to figure out the pressure points, which are largely the same for most	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	not particularly new a concept.	[05:28]
herbijudlestoids	yep	[05:28]
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herbijudlestoids	but being morally weak isnt necessarily weakness of character...im just thinking of sabu, because im reading some article about him right now...feds rocked up at his door, he was taking care of neices and didnt want them in foster care	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	just as long as we understand who the terrorists are, and who is the legitimate power.	[05:29]
herbijudlestoids	we do	[05:29]
herbijudlestoids	i think probably people who dont just havent been exposed to any injustices, yet	[05:30]
herbijudlestoids	if youre well fed and beleive yourself to be mostly secure in your life then its easy to turn a blind eye to many things	[05:31]
Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.0 changed thread title to keep the luls going	[05:32]
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Duffer1	do your job assbot!	[05:32]
Duffer1	ozbot even	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	got tethans ?	[05:33]
Duffer1	ha	[05:33]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4774049#msg4774049 davout is epic.	[05:34]
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mircea_popescu	ftr, that is EXACTLY correct.	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	back when btc was 10, the qty of stupid floating about was also about 100x lower	[05:34]
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Duffer1	ya he beat PR to the punch	[05:37]
dub	im such a noob	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	o hai.	[05:37]
dub	this guy runs into the building im looting	[05:37]
dub	he has a pistol, I an m4 and he doesnt see me	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	this is some game right /	[05:38]
dub	tried to do the nice thing and let him live but no, he kills me	[05:39]
kakobrekla	nope, not a game.	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	aww dub is nao ded ?	[05:39]
kakobrekla	ded cerial	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	!b 9	[05:39]
assbot	Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1573141/plain/)	[05:39]
dub	ded and stuck on teh coast	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	so you were scammed irl ?	[05:40]
Duffer1	dayz?	[05:40]
dub	yeah dayz scammed me out of like 10 hours building that char	[05:40]
dub	nao he dead	[05:40]
Duffer1	lol	[05:40]
Duffer1	i've been watching summit on twitch play dayz mod, so much wtf..	[05:41]
dub	standalone is out on steam	[05:41]
Duffer1	ya i'll wait till they add	[05:42]
Duffer1	anything	[05:42]
dub	it really is a revolutionary game	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4782161#msg4782161	[05:42]
dub	sometimes I'm too afraid to play it	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	cute how doggedly desperate these folks with their random scamcoin are.	[05:42]
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Duffer1	dayz looks like it'll be fun eventually	[05:43]
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dub	its fun now and scary	[05:43]
Duffer1	maybe on a thirdperson only server ya i'd agree	[05:44]
dub	its the human aspect thats scary	[05:44]
dub	you invest in your char, fear for it	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	do the chinese sell chars yet ?	[05:45]
Duffer1	lol	[05:45]
dub	no	[05:46]
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mircea_popescu	anyway. permadeth is always a good idea. i have no clue why the videogame dorkage starting in the 90s eschewed it.	[05:46]
kakobrekla	this dayz thing, huge maps lots of players?	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	naw	[05:47]
Duffer1	huge maps, few players, game is in alpha and buggy as shit, servers are c64s	[05:47]
dub	yeah	[05:47]
Duffer1	but they still managed to sell like 800k copies at $30usd each	[05:47]
dub	huge map up to 40 players	[05:47]
lewicki	cm64's? that's a monumental achievement	[05:47]
dub	persistent between servers	[05:47]
Duffer1	is joke :P	[05:48]
dub	no savegames	[05:48]
lewicki	so was that	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	24k btc! should have ipo'd.	[05:48]
kakobrekla	well i might give it a go	[05:49]
dub	Duffer1: over 1m copies in first month	[05:49]
Duffer1	ah ya, it's a great idea, looks like it will be fun when they add more stuff	[05:50]
Duffer1	i can see why it sold like it has	[05:50]
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jborkl	.diff	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	.d	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	ozbot is dead	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	dub prolly looted it.	[05:51]
mike_c	i know we are beating this thread to death, but davout made me lol hard	[05:52]
mike_c	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4774049#msg4774049	[05:52]
jborkl	Yeah, just read the schrem story	[05:52]
Duffer1	"вредительство" ?	[05:55]
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mircea_popescu	apparently french sense of humour is even drier than english,	[05:59]
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mircea_popescu	sooo, what's new	[14:50]
truffles	the cold	[14:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/a6503b6c7eaa20dab7a449c9b37be416/tumblr_mjwnxhHILc1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	there, morning birdbath.	[14:53]
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truffles	wow	[14:54]
truffles	thats scary	[14:54]
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deadweasel	;;ticker	[14:57]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 950.0, Best ask: 957.788, Bid-ask spread: 7.78800, Last trade: 959.69, 24 hour volume: 13457.69665170, 24 hour low: 912.02001, 24 hour high: 997.25, 24 hour vwap: 948.83378	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	you're not a woman till you've showered on the lawn.	[14:57]
truffles	http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/beautiful-singer-posing-traditional-costume-romanian-f-young-folklore-32741888.jpg do most of the women still wear these`	[14:57]
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mircea_popescu	most of the women never wore those. that's like sunday garb, it varies a lot by locale and in general only a rich girl could afford a really elaborate version.	[14:58]
truffles	i think its cool, i see this woman wearing something really long and flowing all the time	[14:59]
truffles	prob should cut it since it drags on floor heh	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	in general women sew their own stuff, starting about 12ish till they got married. if they were really hot they married by 15 or so, in which case they didn't have the time or the skill to do it. if they were poor they'd have actual labour cut into that "leisure" so equally they had no time.	[15:00]
truffles	married at 12 no pedo?	[15:00]
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mircea_popescu	no reading comprehension anymore ?	[15:01]
truffles	:D	[15:01]
truffles	ppl make a fuss about that today just saying	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	romanian women still marry ~16 if they feel like it.	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	british chicks too, for that matter.	[15:02]
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truffles	terrrible	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	nah. the way the body works, a woman that is going to have children should deliver her first before 18.	[15:03]
truffles	orly	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	yea.	[15:03]
truffles	times have changed	[15:03]
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mircea_popescu	use it or lose it. it has nothing to do with "times", biology is biology.	[15:04]
truffles	i think it should be 25 or later	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	times'd be well advised to adapt to it, cause it ain't happening the other way around.	[15:04]
truffles	we r living longer though	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	makes no difference. the body works a certain way, and that way is based on function.	[15:04]
truffles	how about the male	[15:05]
truffles	id say 30	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	the male's pretty immune, biologically. you can father just fine aged 75	[15:07]
truffles	we're looking at it from diff pov btw, im suggesting best age for the times, ur offering optimal biological time	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	well yes. i'm not interested in a discussion of "time", as you're not qualified to carry it.	[15:07]
truffles	haha	[15:08]
truffles	u r?	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[15:08]
truffles	how so	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	well, you speak one language, i speak a dozen. you've lived in one country, i've lived in lots. you're part of one culture, which is remarkable exactly for it's very stylisized relation to reality. i'm part of at least half a dozen different cultural spaces.	[15:09]
truffles	ha	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	in short, you're not nearly enough of a whore to discuss mating habits.	[15:09]
truffles	def not a whore	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	so there you go.	[15:09]
truffles	but i can have some experience on the matter even if i spoke only 1 language	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	so you'd think.	[15:10]
truffles	u may not value that opinion but it exists	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	you need dialectics to understand anything, or to form an opinion at all. absent the faculty of comparison, you're not forming an opinion, you're merely parroting an ideology.	[15:10]
truffles	its interesting u speak many langauges	[15:10]
truffles	french?	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	there are much better sources for your particular ideology, such as for instance you know, the people making it.	[15:10]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[15:11]
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truffles	i guess i wont be as harsh on u with ur grammar now :D	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	your delusions of gramar are a constant source of amusement, by all means, insist.	[15:12]
truffles	i agree with ur point on comparison somewhat	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	truffles and a rake.	[15:12]
truffles	a logical person can reach near the comparative level necessary for discourse imo	[15:13]
truffles	i wonder about the level of fluency in those other languages	[15:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41000002 BTC [-]	[15:15]
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davout	"your delusions of gramar" << :3	[15:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 510 @ 0.00289243 = 1.4751 BTC [+] {6}	[15:16]
truffles	i missed that lol	[15:16]
truffles	i also wonder if just learning a new language makes u an expert in a culture	[15:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00008482 = 0.1018 BTC [+] {4}	[15:19]
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chetty	no, it doesn't truffles. but its a decent starting point.	[15:21]
punkman	is there a pill that will make me cultured?	[15:21]
truffles	hehe	[15:22]
davout	no, but I have a pill that will make you rich, it'll be 1 BTC sir	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	California's World Famous Cultureburgers.	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	With Experience Soda free for any order of two or more!	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	davout you should ipo that.	[15:23]
davout	you already did	[15:23]
mircea_popescu	o wait	[15:24]
punkman	mircea_popescu: how do you keep all those languages working, imported cunts?	[15:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0043998 = 0.1056 BTC [+]	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	just being very whorish.	[15:24]
punkman	I've already unlearned two languages by not using them	[15:24]
truffles	pfff	[15:24]
truffles	im doubtful	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	people don't respect whores enough. the whore has the ability to not believe in anything. this is valuable.	[15:24]
davout	punkman: watch some tv, it does help to refresh	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	as long as your brains thinks there's a correct language to have and extras as modules to it, it keeps forgetting them	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	once your brains no longer has a reference language it will keep all, or at least enough functional constructs to be able to rapidly recover.	[15:25]
davout	true	[15:26]
truffles	proof of claim?	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	you're confused as to what a claim is truffles.	[15:27]
truffles	that highhorse	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	that high horse is a) legitimately high ; b) much higher in fact than your myopia allows you to see.	[15:28]
truffles	im pretty open fyi	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	but at any rate : if you ask some guy how did he find the steak and he says "stringy", you have no space to ask for proof of claim.	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	he didn't make a claim.	[15:28]
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truffles	these arent standard things	[15:29]
truffles	i could just start posting things to refute u but that highhorse	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	a very smart judge once said, in response to the gov't claim that "this is a standard deal" that there is no such thing as a "standard" deal.	[15:30]
mircea_popescu	there isn't, nor are there "standard things". stop stereotyping, it's the mental process of the very stupid.	[15:31]
truffles	fine, i shall start refuting u, when im of mood	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	or when you grow up, whichever comes first.	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	aw fuck.	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	"or when you are of age, whichever comes first."	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	assbot pls to delete teh other line from the permanent record :D	[15:32]
truffles	ure of the type that feels theyre never wrong, i will try to shatter that :D	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	mno silly, that's your stereotype you use to internally represent your intellectual superiors.	[15:33]
mircea_popescu	which is why i made the myopia comment afore.	[15:33]
truffles	ok	[15:33]
truffles	touche	[15:33]
davout	;;popcorn	[15:34]
gribble	Error: "popcorn" is not a valid command.	[15:34]
punkman	.bait	[15:34]
ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif	[15:34]
BingoBoingo	;;lasers	[15:34]
gribble	┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew! pew! pew!	[15:34]
truffles	surprising ppl r awake	[15:38]
truffles	oh wait bitcoin :D	[15:38]
truffles	ppl = america	[15:38]
chetty	Its a big world with lots of time zones	[15:39]
punkman	ppl != america	[15:39]
truffles	well we'd have to do room poll	[15:39]
punkman	no it's a fact, no people left in murica	[15:39]
BingoBoingo	punkman: There are some, but it is increasingly rare.	[15:41]
punkman	BingoBoingo: sorry, I didn't mean to exclude you	[15:41]
*	truffles is used to the america dominant rooms	[15:42]
BingoBoingo	punkman: No offense taken. I could go to any number of Walmarts and by the end of the venture feel very inclined to exclude myself from a proper category of people	[15:43]
chetty	and therein is the problem truffles, the viewport is too small	[15:43]
truffles	zing	[15:43]
truffles	ppl who never speak in room dont count	[15:45]
truffles	id wager is higher on the muricans who speak, even if there is a romanian cluster that is silent	[15:45]
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BingoBoingo	truffles: Just because you can't arse yourself to remember or infer the nationalities of conversation participants, doesn't make your assumptions correct.	[15:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30307 @ 0.00088744 = 26.8956 BTC [-]	[15:47]
truffles	room poll!	[15:48]
BingoBoingo	truffles: This exactly wrong approach of read less and "room poll!" is what makes you such an easy target	[15:49]
truffles	how do u prove either way without something of the sort	[15:50]
BingoBoingo	truffles: There are chan logs in the topic. A decent number of people have mentioned nationalities since the web log of this channel began	[15:50]
truffles	so u know them all?	[15:51]
BingoBoingo	Also truffles when you just spontaneously throw something out there like "room poll" people might poison your sample.	[15:51]
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BingoBoingo	truffles: Not all, but knowing all is a step to far.	[15:52]
truffles	we want scientific polls in here only	[15:52]
davout	BingoBoingo: "poison your sample" << that sounds dirty	[15:52]
BingoBoingo	davout: Only in all of the ways	[15:52]
davout	also for some weird reason, "room poll!" sounds like "pillow fight!"	[15:52]
BingoBoingo	truffles: I dunno that you have the ability to do a "scientific poll"	[15:53]
davout	BingoBoingo: :-D	[15:53]
truffles	we're all part of earth guys, dont worry about it	[15:53]
BingoBoingo	I dunno truffles You never know which early adopter might already have traded their BTC for a Moonbase or perhaps a portion of the ISS	[15:54]
asciilifeform	http://cryptome.org/2014/01/parastoo-sti.htm	[15:54]
asciilifeform	could somebody spare a circus monkey to work at langley?	[15:54]
asciilifeform	they need new talent	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.080005 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}	[15:55]
asciilifeform	and a new keyboard, where 'capslock' isn't glued down	[15:55]
BingoBoingo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA	[15:57]
ozbot	Clerks - Death Star Contractors - YouTube	[15:57]
truffles	tis too bad ure not into timed games Boingo	[16:01]
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BingoBoingo	truffles: I will play chess with sane time controls, but the time controls you enjoy offer a game other than chess.	[16:02]
truffles	5 min or less sure, 10 is reasonable	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/inflation-deflation-economic-regulation/	[16:03]
ozbot	Inflation, deflation, economic regulation. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	i'll call this writing seminal strictly for the benefit of the double entendre.	[16:03]
lippoper	what do you think about the Winklevii cashing out 75% of their BTC?	[16:13]
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mircea_popescu	they never mattered, but had previously trouble coming to terms with this fact.	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	good for them that that particular psychological issue they had has somehow found resolution meanwhile.	[16:14]
lippoper	they made a killing if anything	[16:15]
lippoper	They still kept 25%, i bet that was maybe less than half of their net profit?	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	this'd depend on your definition of "a killing" and on the faith you put in the numbers advanced by well known liars.	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	the point here isn't that we believe what they say. the point here is that what they say is less nutty than it was afore.	[16:16]
jurov	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp9XLqF-oQw	[16:16]
ozbot	Faithless - Music Matters - YouTube	[16:16]
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lippoper	true	[16:17]
lippoper	if they did what they said, then they'd walk away with over 10,000% profit in USD	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[16:17]
jurov	what happened to their fund?	[16:18]
lippoper	they claim they sold 75% of it	[16:18]
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jurov	o, they sold bitcoins to the fund?	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	jurov you remember, the twinklevii, those people who kept buying btc back when it was 10. lots of it.	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	somehow none of us active at the time heard or felt this, but they did it.	[16:18]
jurov	yes, that's why im asking about the bigger picture	[16:18]
lippoper	wait for it, next thing we know, they are the fabled satoshi - creator of the btc	[16:19]
jurov	so they started the fund, inserted btc, pulled usd out?	[16:19]
lippoper	lol	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	lippoper fortunately satoshi isn't know, or else hed get sued for having stolen some wrestler's ideas	[16:19]
mircea_popescu	or w/e they are i forget. was it wrestlers ?	[16:19]
lippoper	bahaha	[16:20]
jurov	kayakers	[16:20]
jurov	heh	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	a ok.	[16:20]
lippoper	kayakers	[16:20]
lippoper	Professional kayakers	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	sounds like the exact people i'd have my wealth managed by, personally.	[16:20]
lippoper	They're just rowers	[16:20]
lippoper	but from one of the richest families	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	i'm sure about as many people made the same choice as the legions that sold them btc back when i was buying all there was on sale and never ran into them	[16:20]
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asciilifeform	when do we get the mega-fund run by circus acrobats? sumo wrestlers?	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	i;m kind-of dissapoint that nobody has come up with some sort of forum-"financial" product centered around a monkey	[16:24]
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mircea_popescu	like you know, the old parrot-fortune-picking thing carnies/gypsies did in the old soviet space	[16:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 247 @ 0.00404992 = 1.0003 BTC [+] {5}	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	it could ipo just fine.	[16:24]
jurov	dragon's tale has a monkey game	[16:25]
jurov	but yes, raising funds for implementing the Infinite Monkey Protocol would be worthwhile	[16:25]
jurov	unlike bitcon it already has a RFC spec	[16:26]
jurov	http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt	[16:26]
jurov	mpex.co/?mpsic=S.RFC2795	[16:28]
jurov	:D	[16:28]
asciilifeform	S.MNKY	[16:28]
asciilifeform	'always mount a scratch monkey'	[16:29]
asciilifeform	http://edp.org/monkey.htm	[16:29]
KRS1	can't believe we're about to see all time high btc market price real soon	[16:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088744 = 3.6385 BTC [-]	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	there, added.	[16:48]
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mircea_popescu	and obviously facebook is a standards-noncompliant, half baked, buggy implementation of half of rfc2795.	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	because that's what the web 2.0 is all about.	[16:50]
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TomServo	.d	[17:23]
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mircea_popescu	In its latest review of social developments, the European Commission has said finding a job increasingly has not pulled people out of economic hardship. It said poverty among people with jobs was a major problem.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	herp. "30% of kids aren't employed. this perhaps has something to do with the fact that even if they were it wouldn't help them ?!?!?:!"	[18:15]
lippoper	i got a boner from making ~12k doges while it's falling in price, day trading is exciting. .bait	[18:17]
lippoper	.bait	[18:17]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5pmpru3IB1qesi8lo1_1280.jpg	[18:17]
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lippoper	nice kim kardashian bait	[18:19]
lippoper	.bait	[18:19]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rutdUcpV1r0d395o1_1280.jpg	[18:19]
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mircea_popescu	http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-fundamental-flaw-in-crypto-currencies-that-will-soon-make-them-all-worthless-competing-crypto-currencies/	[18:21]
ozbot	The Fundamental Flaw in Crypto Currencies that Will Soon Make them All Worthless – Competing Crypt	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	noobs discover bitcoin, imagine th eworld starts and ends with their trufflebrain, make articles to tell the world.	[18:22]
Jere_Jones	"trufflebrain" lol	[18:22]
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lippoper	Mircea, wtf? lol!	[18:24]
lippoper	from the article:	[18:24]
lippoper	"The only thing holding back precious metals right now is the fact that the USA can print money, buy gold in London anonymously, sell it at a loss, print more money to cover the loss, and repeat as required to drive the price down to whatever it wants. This is only possible because Gold is vastly undervalued so it does not take many dollars to be able to engage in this kind of manipulation"	[18:24]
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mircea_popescu	lippoper it's just funny, on the interwebs everyone has "opinions"	[18:26]
kakobrekla	thats just your opinion.	[18:27]
twizt	true dat	[18:27]
lippoper	lulz	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	mhm.	[18:27]
kakobrekla	>Edit: The Avalon chips that were purchased using FIMB funds are now sitting in a box, because they arrived so late it was not worth it to assemble them. I did not have the option to refund. Regardless, FIMB holders will be reimbursed.	[18:31]
kakobrekla	lolk, do want to see that.	[18:31]
jurov	they will get chips mailed :D	[18:32]
kakobrekla	selling asic gear best biz ever. take monies, ship when you can, if you cant, use water bottles.	[18:32]
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kakobrekla	>I have made some strategic relationships over the weekend and I will be able to make things right with all involved. Not another day will pass with any of my bitcoin affairs being neglected, you can be sure of that.	[18:33]
kakobrekla	lmao, a whole weekend worth of relationship.	[18:33]
kakobrekla	>I too agree that in order for Cognitive to be wildly successful like it once was more people need to come on board on the management front, preferably shareholders, because we all have a vested interest in the company succeeding as opposed to contracted workers.	[18:34]
kakobrekla	"i cant do shit really, just wanna be the ceo, is dat ok?"	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:34]
jurov	ain't no fury like affair scorned	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	is this the 17yo who figures he's a player on the strength of also having a keyboard	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	just like everyone else ?	[18:35]
kakobrekla	reassured with > Second, we need to find members willing to help this recovery process. People for PR, for research (which includes new hardware, new tech, and pricing on existing tech).	[18:35]
kakobrekla	-As always, I love to hear constructive input of all sorts. It is my goal to make Cognitive the highly desirable asset it once was.	[18:36]
kakobrekla	hihi	[18:36]
kakobrekla	ah thank you garr, you didnt let me down	[18:36]
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mircea_popescu	the only way cognitive was a "desirable" asset was when the herpitude of the multitude was still fresh.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	there's no recanning that can of worms.	[18:36]
kakobrekla	we shall see	[18:37]
mike_c	sure there is. rename it to cognitive V2.0	[18:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08 = 0.72 BTC [-]	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	mike_c the only way cognitive can become the whatever, is if it moves to dogecoins and it pretends that's the "world"	[18:37]
mike_c	that would also work.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	which is actually the service all these failed attempts provide bitcoin : they shed all the idiots off us. thanks god.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	by the time a bitcoin is over 10k it'll be almost breathable in the "community"	[18:38]
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asciilifeform	nah, we'll see all the same idiot scams, with the decimal point moved a few places.	[18:39]
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mircea_popescu	nah.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	that'd be missing a fundamental ingredient in the psychology of the scammer.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	if he were modest, like your model describes, he'd be an employee.	[18:41]
pankkake	altcoins with low value per unit still seem to have a power of attraction	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	scammers are dreamers.	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	not all dreamers are scammers (tho in general, if poorly managed or self managed, they do tend to realise that potential)	[18:42]
kakobrekla	http://images0.zurnal24.si/slika-_original-1390922536-1002935.jpg	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	however, all scammers are dreamers.	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	Us is evaluating making a "bit license"	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	US*	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	live feed	[18:43]
ozbot	Department of Financial Services	[18:43]
KRS1	i'm watching.	[18:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	make a summary when you get bored.	[18:44]
kakobrekla	what is vinkleloss brotherhood doing there	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	winkelvii in attendance	[18:45]
asciilifeform	http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-smartphones-analysis.pdf	[18:45]
kakobrekla	first.	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	they are getting worn in	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[18:45]
asciilifeform	all the 'censor blobs' are transparent.	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	sworn*	[18:45]
asciilifeform	highlight, copy, paste.	[18:45]
kakobrekla	didnt they sell all their btc	[18:45]
kakobrekla	they should be on LTC panel	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	this is how they could afford the entrance fee :D	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform anything good ?	[18:46]
asciilifeform	nope. the usual crap	[18:46]
ThickAsThieves	Second Market now commenting	[18:46]
asciilifeform	author's name, and a little snippet of code	[18:46]
ThickAsThieves	so far it's a NIT pitch	[18:46]
ThickAsThieves	BIT*	[18:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00082566 = 0.1651 BTC [-]	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves srsly, a blow by blow of some irrelevant proceeding in some 3rd world pesthole is a bit much.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	just a summary at the end, perhaps one of the two "we decided we'r too stupid to get mixed up usefully" "we're unaware we're too stupid and will mix ourselves into it"	[18:47]
ThickAsThieves	beggars, choosers oh well	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	hey, my 2 bitcents!	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	one day they'll be a fortune.	[18:48]
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mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/428158030015107072 << cannonical exercise in "but i'm too stupid to know just how stupid i am!"	[18:51]
ozbot	Twitter / Namecheap: @Mircea_Popescu LOL, they're ...	[18:51]
kakobrekla	whats the issue anyway	[18:53]
ThickAsThieves	too much CSS	[18:54]
kakobrekla	dat niga just said slovenia in the somalia tone	[18:54]
kakobrekla	fuck you.	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[18:54]
Apocalyptic	heh	[18:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00289998 = 0.261 BTC [+]	[18:56]
ThickAsThieves	it's gonna take the full two hours just for opening statements...	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla ppl bein raceist.	[18:56]
kakobrekla	yea!	[18:56]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: rofl :P	[18:59]
Azelphur	I admit I laughed a little at namecheaps new edsign	[18:59]
Azelphur	design*	[18:59]
punkman	so I went to buy some allegedly local truffles, dude tried to pass me chinese bootleg truffles	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	no you don't understand. it's good and i don't have "actionable" whatever. it's just like yahoo which is doing great!	[19:01]
punkman	so disappointed	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	fuckwits on a stick.	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	learn something from me, ye future owners of this world, if you learn anything at all :	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	never, ever, under any circumstances allow random "specialist" fuckwits to speak for your venture.	[19:01]
Apocalyptic	sounds like a good advice	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	in any venue, under any circumstances, ever. if you can't control the communication shut it off.	[19:02]
deadweasel	^	[19:02]
deadweasel	even accountants!	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager.	[19:02]
ThickAsThieves	amen	[19:02]
ThickAsThieves	well	[19:02]
Apocalyptic	nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager. // or the pr-girl ?	[19:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [MS] 93 @ 0.005 = 0.465 BTC	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	i think not always good for manager/owner to be talking	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic if you control her.	[19:03]
Apocalyptic	indeed	[19:03]
punkman	mircea_popescu: contrast with companies having mandatory "social" time during work hours	[19:03]
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deadweasel	excellent post, btw, mp.	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	but your message must maintain it's integrity	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	somehow	[19:03]
punkman	(for all employees)	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	its	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's great. let the world adapt it's sensitive ears to the roar of commercial and industrial reality.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	don't do it the other way lest you perish like the us perished.	[19:03]
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mircea_popescu	o i mean, the us is doing great, just like yahoo, what do i know.	[19:04]
deadweasel	perishing, no? if we are speaking of the apple in the bag and the present moment, we have no perished.	[19:04]
deadweasel	not*	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	yeah. and if we don't ?	[19:04]
deadweasel	but we are rotting from the inside out, indeed.	[19:04]
deadweasel	blight is starting to appear to the average shmo. he is starting to get angry here.	[19:05]
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mircea_popescu	you know the thing with present moments... they're but moments, fleetingly present. the car going too fast is still, for a brief moment, on the road.	[19:05]
deadweasel	if he looks any deeper (i realize thsi is a long shot), he may see the rotten core and start the long task of expelling his american demons.	[19:06]
deadweasel	i mean, it's not IMpossible.	[19:06]
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mircea_popescu	deadweasel if you wish an optimist angle on it, you could say "well great, finally a chance to become a nation"	[19:06]
deadweasel	pretty much	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	like you know, suppose you lose your job, and that means you'll lose the house	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	which you know... you kinda dread telling to the incredibly hot knockout that somehow accepted to marry you	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	you don't even know how.	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	and she goes... "well great, we'll be abjectly poor and finally have a chance to be a family"	[19:07]
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deadweasel	yup, that's classic conditioning though, one of the demons that needs exercising. marriage promotion.	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	yes yes. meanwhile it's convenient symbology	[19:08]
kakobrekla	lol, "so what do you think about regulation of btc?", "needs no change, works as it should, you just busted shrem ya know."	[19:08]
deadweasel	i still sometimes believe fi I get a wife and pop a couple kids out, and manage to keep them fed that I've done my 'part'. it's a farce of course.	[19:08]
deadweasel	but ti's there in the brain.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	your part of what ? cake ?	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla that case will be interesting, too, if the kid somehow finds the resources to not sign a plea bargain.	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	it can end up costing the president half his approval rating pretty much.	[19:10]
KRS1	http://tinyurl.com/9cmqf2r	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	(yea, that's like three points, what can i say)	[19:10]
deadweasel	exactly, more conditioning. I'm saying I'm aware of my own conditioning, to a degree, thank god. but my 'part' would be my perceived 'value' to my 'family' 'nation' etc. We have all sorts of beliefs warping our minds.	[19:10]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[19:11]
deadweasel	to even name them all would be moot, it's just sickness.	[19:11]
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ThickAsThieves	why isnt there a dominant independent AML provider?	[19:31]
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kakobrekla	TERRORIST FUNDING	[19:32]
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mircea_popescu	that's a good q, actually.	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	and why is that provider not a govt agency paid for by the govt out of taxes, as it should be ?	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	o wait, an answer appears. because this way the costs of governance could be imposed upon business directly, bypassing the tax controls of congress.	[19:33]
ThickAsThieves	could not PayPal or Facebook do this?	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	the cleverness of the us politicos is so very refined it's just about on par with the cleverness of the entire check and card system.	[19:34]
nubbins`	deadweasel, popping out kids is essentially pushing a reset switch. if you haven't yet done what you feel you need to do with your life, it's too soon :D	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	not internet worthy, but hey.	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves how would facebook do it ?!	[19:34]
ThickAsThieves	how would anyone?	[19:34]
nubbins`	facebook knows more about me than my bank does	[19:34]
nubbins`	just sayin	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` only if you don't lie.	[19:35]
nubbins`	to fb or the bank?	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves well you need a number of that rare beast, the risk assesment officer.	[19:35]
nubbins`	i'm pleading canada's equivalent of the fifth amendment on this one	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	there's about 1% of the needed troop of those available, and that was pre-aml.	[19:36]
mircea_popescu	by now there's no hope.	[19:36]
nubbins`	while simultaneously wondering if canada even has a similar thing	[19:36]
kakobrekla	shutup vinkle, next.	[19:37]
ThickAsThieves	the US does however find the time to allow citizens to pay them to do a background check so they can fly without taking their shoes off	[19:37]
nubbins`	hahaha, this ^	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	yes, because on that score their determinations are unfalsyfiable.	[19:37]
nubbins`	"it's for security, unless you have $50"	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	if x schmuck deals dope can be established factually.	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	if y schmuck is a "threat to security" could not.	[19:37]
ThickAsThieves	because anyone with a bad background would apply	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	even should y blow up a plane, condolezza rice v2.0 will happily swear before congress "nobody could hve foreseen"	[19:38]
ThickAsThieves	another funny abomination of flying is when they announce the different boarding groups	[19:39]
ThickAsThieves	Members of the Platinum, Gold, Ruby, and Mega Preferred may now board!	[19:39]
nubbins`	those with small children or the infirm!	[19:40]
nubbins`	jeez, fake a limp and carry a cane and you'll get on first.	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	they literally announced about 10 different classes of people	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	just to board...	[19:40]
nubbins`	bring a friend who fakes tourette's and you'll get on first	[19:40]
nubbins`	etc	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	ha he's saying auth with Facebook is an answer!	[19:41]
nubbins`	there was a story a while ago about a guy using facebook for his identification to get on a plane	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	'compliance at scale'	[19:41]
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deadweasel	nubbins`: it's always too soon for me to pop out kids, until it isn't. fortunately I've found my calling and I'm wrecking shop on it, currently.	[19:41]
nubbins`	i'm honestly too selfish for it	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	there shoulda been a bitbet whether someone says "HSBC" during these sessions	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[19:43]
mircea_popescu	give winklebois a chance to make their 75% back	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	til "Kyriarchy". i like this word. i think i shall use it.	[19:44]
kakobrekla	all these fuckin methapores	[19:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00442433 = 0.1195 BTC [+] {6}	[19:44]
kakobrekla	cant just just say it normally	[19:44]
kakobrekla	just = they	[19:44]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla how ?	[19:45]
kakobrekla	what how	[19:45]
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deadweasel	what is the normal word for kyriachry?	[19:45]
kakobrekla	im commenting the live stream	[19:45]
kakobrekla	OMG	[19:46]
kakobrekla	dont bring 9.11 into this shit now	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea there was one.	[19:46]
kakobrekla	DEAD BABIES	[19:46]
kakobrekla	BITCOIN	[19:46]
Apocalyptic	9.11 again	[19:46]
deadweasel	kakobrekla:, link?	[19:46]
ThickAsThieves	sigh	[19:46]
Apocalyptic	http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs	[19:46]
ozbot	Department of Financial Services	[19:46]
deadweasel	thx Apocalyptic	[19:46]
kakobrekla	http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs	[19:46]
ozbot	Department of Financial Services	[19:46]
kakobrekla	YOU MUST HAVE A LICENSE OR ELSE YOU CRASH PLANE IN BUILDING	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	lol i like how into it kako gets	[19:46]
ThickAsThieves	ha now he's talking about flight pre check!	[19:47]
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Apocalyptic	kako's on fire	[19:47]
Apocalyptic	who's the guy speaking atm btw ?	[19:47]
ThickAsThieves	there's a chat in this	[19:47]
ThickAsThieves	?	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	wat we should do for the future is have bets on which panelist will show himself be dumbest.	[19:47]
punkman	mircea_popescu: that's an awful word	[19:48]
ThickAsThieves	how do you score if your brother does all the talking?	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	punkman "that" ?	[19:49]
punkman	Kyriarchy	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves for the purpose of this bet all people are male and all twins etc are one person.	[19:49]
mircea_popescu	punkman why exactly ? kyriarchy, the natural, normal, good and healthy mode of society, which a bunch of failures are claiming to be "critiquing" and "oposing" because it';s cheaper than fixing the steaming pile of shit they personally are	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	seems like a grand word to me.	[19:50]
jurov	then the dumbmness adds or multiplies?	[19:50]
deadweasel	oh wow, this is good, thanks kakobrekla	[19:50]
jurov	for twins, i mean	[19:50]
deadweasel	good - entertaining at least	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	jurov shit you got me.	[19:50]
punkman	mircea_popescu: it offends my aesthetics in some way, like when americans try to make up greek sounding words	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	it is kinda broken in greek	[19:51]
punkman	it's a homophone of κυρίαρχοι, which means sovereign/overlord	[19:51]
mircea_popescu	which explains why nobody used it up until some illiterate woman decided smashing random "respectable" and "priviledged" bits together will make her drivel more... respectable and priviledged	[19:51]
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jurov	The word itself is a neologism coined by Elisabeth Schüssler Fiorenza to describe interconnected, interacting, and self-extending systems of domination and submission, in which a single individual might be oppressed in some relationships and privileged in others.	[19:52]
jurov	sez wikipedia	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	the fact that her drivel is nominally about how bad privilege and the respect it engenders is only adds to the humor.	[19:52]
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mircea_popescu	this is roughly matching the luce irigaray levels of idiocy, so. i'm happy.	[19:52]
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nubbins`	reminds me of arduino	[19:53]
nubbins`	apparently all the knock-offs, netduino, miniduino, etc sound HORRIBLE in italian	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	they do yea	[19:54]
punkman	they don't sound good in English either	[19:54]
punkman	can't even come up with a fucking name	[19:54]
nubbins`	well once you start making your portmanteaus cross the language barrier, all hope is lost	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	too much shit to name.	[19:55]
nubbins`	the solution is to have fewer things	[19:56]
nubbins`	newspeak had it figured out	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	consider all the people that apparently are in some capacity part of the usg, and somehow (at least in their own mind) decision factors in various capacities.	[19:56]
punkman	random numbers and letters is the solution, obviously	[19:56]
nubbins`	yeah	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	aren't you shocked they manage to allocate names for all these ?	[19:56]
nubbins`	just reference each item by a GUID	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	srsly.	[19:56]
mircea_popescu	"bureaucrat345987643985 ty for your leadership. nao speaking bureaucrat345987643456"	[19:56]
nubbins`	completes the analogy that everyone is just a number	[19:56]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, essentially a birth certificate is a rudimentary DNS system in this regard	[19:57]
punkman	maybe our kids' names will be valid BTC addresses	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	sort-of	[19:57]
nubbins`	who can remember bureaucrat345987643985? much easier to type john smith	[19:57]
nubbins`	altho far too many name collisions for my liking	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` why even bother, mt_rand that shit	[19:57]
nubbins`	haha	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	just address them randomly.	[19:57]
kakobrekla	DR EVIL	[19:57]
kakobrekla	1 ZILLION DOLLARS	[19:58]
nubbins`	consider that i don't have what i'd consider a common name, but a google search turns up at least half a dozen people with it	[19:58]
mircea_popescu	actually, speaking of propaganda of th edeed : making a point of addressing all bureaucrats as a random name picked from the pool of bureaucrats.	[19:58]
nubbins`	hahahahahahaha	[19:58]
mircea_popescu	they wish to give their humanity away, fine, take it from them then.	[19:58]
nubbins`	actually amazing	[19:58]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:58]
nubbins`	"director of fincen dick cheney"	[19:58]
nubbins`	although TBF dicky should just be referred to as "he who cannot be named"	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	who'd know the difference ?	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	prolly not even the wife.	[19:59]
nubbins`	he's essentially a hybrid of the penguin and voldemort	[19:59]
nubbins`	certainly not the man he shot in the face with a gun	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	actually, with obamacare maybe they can get facial reconstructive surgery on the dole.	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	make them all look alike too.	[19:59]
nubbins`	due to a mix-up, they're all given snowden's face	[19:59]
nubbins`	ah, the lels	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha	[19:59]
nubbins`	"turns out i still can't move home"	[20:00]
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pankkake	"I suggest we do an auto ban for 3 months for people with 50 ignores or more."	[20:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 501 @ 0.00082555 = 0.4136 BTC [-] {2}	[20:07]
ThickAsThieves	decentralized bans!	[20:07]
pankkake	colored bans	[20:07]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	"i suggest we just ban btc off btctalk and anyone who is sane. then we can finally be alt-happy and alt-successful"	[20:08]
ThickAsThieves	which is actually what the forum is getting really good at	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	so mazel tov.	[20:09]
pankkake	interestingly the top ignores have both very sane people and very retarded people	[20:09]
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mircea_popescu	i think this is a known property of free systems	[20:09]
nubbins`	hm	[20:10]
nubbins`	auto-ban for 50 ignores	[20:10]
nubbins`	that's just a backhanded way of getting mpoe-pr banned	[20:10]
ThickAsThieves	winkelvii says the core developers will save us from the hoarders if needed	[20:10]
nubbins`	how will they do that?	[20:10]
pankkake	that leaves the forum for the mediocre	[20:10]
nubbins`	also, s/hoarders/savers	[20:10]
nubbins`	funny, that	[20:10]
ThickAsThieves	yknow mpoe-pr may be the last finger hanging onto the cliff for the forum	[20:11]
nubbins`	introduce a system where saving money makes sense, and it gets villified	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` it's funny tho, they don't have the balls to say so, lest she calls their mommy fat.	[20:11]
ThickAsThieves	i know i have no fight left in me for that place	[20:11]
pankkake	crazy world where saving to plan for the future is bad	[20:11]
pankkake	my generation saves nothing… not that they can	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	and yes. winklevii are lieing to the usg, on the grounds of scammy promises people who make a habit out of lieing about their dev status made.	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	this is exactly how bitcoin rapes fiat, incidentally.	[20:12]
nubbins`	pankkake, i call bullshit on the "not that they can"	[20:13]
pankkake	well, it depends. some have the income to save	[20:13]
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pankkake	but really the older generations had lower cost of living and less taxes; it's harder	[20:14]
nubbins`	they were also more prudent with their money, fwiw	[20:14]
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mircea_popescu	and with their vote.	[20:16]
nubbins`	well, i mean. speaking in generalities here	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	not like i forced them to vote socialist.	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	let them vote the guy who says "taxes go away, the french state defaults on all its obligations. that's it"	[20:16]
pankkake	well there is certainly a (wrong) belief of the young that they'll always have an income and a place to get stuff	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	then they'll have plenty of money to save.	[20:17]
pankkake	(and by stuff I mean food - at least)	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4795901#msg4795901	[20:18]
ozbot	Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing	[20:18]
gecko_x2	hey mp, i read on hackernews about your kind donation to the BSD project.. just wanted to say cheers, good going :D	[20:19]
nubbins`	well ya know. you default on your obligations and the world still turns	[20:19]
nubbins`	i ask with all seriousness, why would anyone care?	[20:19]
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mircea_popescu	gecko_x2 ty.	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` moreover, if they get rid of the tax burden that's just frittering away people's resources, france may actually come back from the dead.	[20:20]
Apocalyptic	sounds like Fred Wilson knows his shit	[20:21]
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pankkake	well it's like training with weights. the french manage to do stuff despite the burden, what would happen without it?	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	that's an optimisitc, but perhaps correct view.	[20:24]
nubbins`	"...because totally people send you fake passports with your motherfucking face on them as a prank all the time"	[20:24]
nubbins`	this harkens back to our earlier discussion about mail-order drugs and plausible deniability	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	i guess so.	[20:25]
nubbins`	(nobody would mail-order drugs with a picture of their face on the bag)	[20:25]
nubbins`	TBF you'd think nobody would mail-order a dozen fake IDs either	[20:26]
nubbins`	but you'd be wrong if you thought that, apparently	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	well nobody over the age of 15, anyway	[20:26]
nubbins`	"know what'd make this race to the bottom more fun? grease"	[20:26]
nubbins`	aw, heh. i tell pascale about this sweet new coin, she gets all weird and disappears upstairs	[20:28]
nubbins`	she comes downstairs, "i tried to buy that fucking thing but i can't find it on the website"	[20:28]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[20:28]
nubbins`	<- "masters club", can view pre-order items ;(	[20:28]
nubbins`	i just gave her my pw and pretended to give myself amnesia ;(	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	can't just push assets ?	[20:29]
pankkake	what about drone-order drugs?	[20:29]
nubbins`	it's my birthday on thursday, i think she was going for the element of surprise	[20:30]
nubbins`	pankkake, this will srsly be a big thing	[20:31]
ThickAsThieves	he's wondering if anyone is trying to open a bitcoin bank	[20:31]
nubbins`	at least until the cops in any given jurisdiction get up to speed on it	[20:31]
nubbins`	"A kitchen sink, a wet noodle, some nesting birds, a dead tapeworm, that's your NFL picks. " haha	[20:31]
pankkake	I hope so. any decentralized shipping would annoy the hell out of the power that be	[20:32]
nubbins`	^ 10/10, would publish	[20:32]
pankkake	for drugs or anything else	[20:32]
nubbins`	pankkake, some canadian cities already have bicycle delivery	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` time to do the asshole routine ::D	[20:32]
nubbins`	via referral only	[20:32]
mircea_popescu	o, what, 10 derpcoins ? cool honey, here, 10 btc.	[20:32]
nubbins`	HEH	[20:32]
pankkake	via referral?	[20:32]
punkman	pankkake, Nefario wanted to do decentralized shipping	[20:33]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: joke's on me -- p owns all the btc	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	give her some of her own. asshole level +2	[20:33]
nubbins`	pankkake: you have to be referred by a trusted customer to get bicycle delivery	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	what, like a wot thing ?!	[20:33]
mircea_popescu	IMPOSSIBRU	[20:33]
pankkake	I see. why not	[20:33]
nubbins`	exactly like that	[20:33]
nubbins`	drug dealing is the original WoT	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	why would anyone use it! it's bad! no css!	[20:34]
pankkake	I definitively like invite only systems	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	nah, banking is the original wot.	[20:34]
*	nubbins` thinks about this	[20:34]
pankkake	it works wonders with piracy websites :p	[20:34]
nubbins`	banking before drug sales?	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	definitely.	[20:34]
mircea_popescu	drugs only exist as a post-victorian construct, much like "children" in the sense of little angels that don't enjoy the c0k	[20:35]
ThickAsThieves	"This morning, Charlie Shrem, Vice Chairman, submitted his resignation to the Board of Directors of the Bitcoin Foundation, effective immediately."	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	otherwise people did stuff	[20:35]
nubbins`	eh, jesus was likely blazed on hashish when kicking the money-lenders out of the temple	[20:35]
dub	boo	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` possibly not, as he was poor	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	the money-lenders however...	[20:35]
nubbins`	alms, dude	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	notyet.	[20:35]
nubbins`	jesus didn't pay for shit	[20:35]
ThickAsThieves	"Bitcoin is freedom. It's very American."	[20:36]
nubbins`	he had +10 ratings across the board	[20:36]
turbo_ac100	lol	[20:36]
nubbins`	except for a few -10s from scammers	[20:36]
nubbins`	notably the romans	[20:36]
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mircea_popescu	jesus paid for shit much like black slaves wore chains. it's only the latter day dorks going "this guy used to have it rough give us hashmoney"	[20:36]
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dub	"This morning the bitcoin foundation was dissolved as the joke became apparent to its last remaining shills" <- was waiting for this one	[20:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00088824 = 18.8307 BTC [+] {2}	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	it has remaining shills ?!	[20:36]
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dub	ok shill	[20:37]
Apocalyptic	dem shills	[20:37]
nubbins`	i'd like to do a run of shirts mocking the foundation but there's almost no point	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	wait, i said something nice re teh scamdation sometime ?	[20:37]
nubbins`	after a certain point it's just crass to mock	[20:37]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` yeah, someone'd have to care before they/d buy one.	[20:37]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, someone should ask the various twerps "considering" bitcoin regulatory nonsense whether they've ever been on -assets and if not what their excuse is.	[20:38]
ThickAsThieves	well why arent you there?	[20:39]
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kakobrekla	mp the answer is "lol omg gtfo."	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves because i actually think what they do is a waste of time.	[20:40]
libbelol	btw, does anyone here know who the guy on the left was? Didnt get his name	[20:40]
kakobrekla	ross ulbricht	[20:41]
ThickAsThieves	mp takes the stand "Bitcoin doesn't give a fuck what you think. [drops mic]"	[20:41]
libbelol	and the brit ?	[20:41]
Apocalyptic	Barry Silbert i think	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	i could see it, yes.	[20:42]
kakobrekla	wasnt it james mccarthy?	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	seems a lot of hassle to fly over just for that	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	(not that i'd fly to the us without a handwritten note from the president saying that any usg personnel coming within five feet on me is to be shot on the spot)	[20:42]
kakobrekla	you would get busted on the border and sent to jail anyway	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[20:43]
Apocalyptic	haha mp	[20:43]
Apocalyptic	i totally see obama agreeing to that	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic well, enforced immunity.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	gotta respect foreign diplomats somehow.	[20:43]
pankkake	so Bitcoin Ambassador is much better than Bitcoin Jesus	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	kahn didn't have the sense to enforce his immunity, but then again he was in fiat, and fiat is dumb.	[20:44]
kakobrekla	the only thing taht comes to mind	[20:44]
kakobrekla	www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY	[20:44]
kakobrekla	yeah yeah, but its a classic!	[20:44]
ThickAsThieves	so start the Republik de la Bitcoin	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	;;google "republic of bitcoin"	[20:45]
gribble	Buy and Sell Bitcoins in Singapore. Trusted and ... - Coin Republic: ; Buy and sell bitcoins in Czech Republic, with cash and online: ; Bitcoin in Asia - Bitcoinvention - Bitcoinvention Asia:	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	i'd be surprised if it's not my coinage tbh	[20:45]
ThickAsThieves	High Ambassador Nubbins	[20:45]
nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4790260#msg4790260	[20:46]
nubbins`	HEH	[20:46]
ozbot	Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing	[20:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04899998 = 0.196 BTC [+]	[20:46]
nubbins`	nah i speak my mind too openly to be an ambassador	[20:46]
nubbins`	although maybe that's what the world needs	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	i was gonna say, not necessarily a disqualifying point	[20:47]
ThickAsThieves	as long as your opinion is that of the Republik's	[20:47]
nubbins`	speaking your mind is the grease on the rails of the runaway train to the bottom	[20:47]
nubbins`	can't start over til you hit rock bottom, doesn't mean people are eager to get there	[20:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.04933997 = 0.4934 BTC [+] {4}	[20:48]
ThickAsThieves	get dat COG	[20:49]
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mircea_popescu	people fear speaking your mind way too much.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	what's the big risk, that one day you may live to hear you're an asshole ?	[20:50]
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ThickAsThieves	most days	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	won't get too far in life with no asshole...	[20:50]
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twizt	damn i hate having such a large emini spoos position on	[20:51]
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mircea_popescu	so narrow it	[20:52]
twizt	im only gettin 20% of the upside so fuck it	[20:53]
twizt	still nervous as shit	[20:53]
mooninite	PETA is about to be mining soon. cointerra has begun shipping	[20:53]
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mircea_popescu	twizt listen to your motherfucking pit boss for once in your motherfucking degenerate life and NARROW IT	[20:53]
twizt	lol pitboss	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:53]
twizt	dont flatter urself	[20:53]
ThickAsThieves	friedcat changed the name on his email account from some random name to "ASICMINIG"	[20:53]
mircea_popescu	i was jus' tryin to channel. did it work ?	[20:53]
ThickAsThieves	ASIC, my nig!	[20:53]
twizt	god this market just wants to rally	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	what is "large emini spoos position on"?	[20:55]
twizt	E-MINI S&P 500	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	word	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	he's exposed on the index, which is always a bad idea if you feel you're overextended.	[20:56]
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twizt	i just wanna make 2k today	[20:56]
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twizt	but i gotta make 10k to make 2k	[20:57]
ThickAsThieves	i entered TSLA on the recent dip	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	dude what the hell, all the bad habits. forget the round goals ffs.	[20:57]
twizt	i hate this industry so much, but it pay sthe bills	[20:57]
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twizt	just need it to crap out	[20:57]
twizt	i got stops on	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	asicminig is pretty cute come to think about it	[20:58]
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twizt	i dunno how to trade stocks ThickAsThieves	[20:58]
twizt	too convoluted	[20:58]
ThickAsThieves	i dont do it often	[20:58]
twizt	TSLA prolly not a bad buy imo	[20:58]
ThickAsThieves	mostly I get to know the companies over a long time	[20:59]
twizt	i would short time warner cable	[20:59]
ThickAsThieves	then when things seem to be too good for too long I sell em	[20:59]
twizt	if i had the money to short that fucker	[20:59]
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twizt	lol they lose 150k subscribers	[20:59]
twizt	the ticker rallies	[20:59]
mircea_popescu	shorting in a paper market is riskier than going long actually.	[21:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.426 = 0.852 BTC [-]	[21:00]
twizt	yo ThickAsThieves i heard ur making a game	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	because your profits you make shorting are still paper.	[21:00]
ThickAsThieves	me, making a game, never been a thing	[21:00]
twizt	really?	[21:00]
ThickAsThieves	really	[21:00]
twizt	duffer1 said u were	[21:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.04984998 = 1.4955 BTC [+] {4}	[21:01]
twizt	whats that game where people keep destroying 6 figure ships	[21:01]
twizt	need to make something like that for bitcoins rofl	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	mp is making games tho	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	or, game	[21:02]
twizt	nice	[21:02]
lippoper	ready for the lulz?	[21:02]
lippoper	TittieCoin: I would like to introduce you to the next two big things: TittieCoin! - It'll be launched today! Check our website: www.TittieCoin.com - Twitter: www.twitter.com/TittieCoin and our subreddit: r/TittieCoin - Come all aboard! :D Let's motorboooat! http://goo.gl/Rk0aNw	[21:02]
ThickAsThieves	meh	[21:02]
twizt	rofl	[21:02]
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mike_c	wasn't that coindesk's problem with mpex shorting? that you still end up with bitcoins.	[21:03]
ThickAsThieves	that was forbes, first at least	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	mike_c someone's, anyway. at least pre-futures	[21:04]
ThickAsThieves	he was set out to make it look impossible	[21:04]
ThickAsThieves	reporting obstacles is easier than overcoming them	[21:04]
mike_c	right. light bulb. that is a significant difference between shorting with options vs. x.eur :)	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah, the thing with journos is, often their editor gives them a thing to write. like the wired kid HAD TO say some shit about "nouveau riche" in his piece, because.	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	conceivably forbes wanted to say that you can't short bitcoin as a support for "it's a bubble" or w/e "editorial policy" they had	[21:05]
ThickAsThieves	that reminds of the rap i started writing back when we were starting an IRC band	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	^	[21:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.08880542 = 1.5985 BTC [+] {10}	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	Nouveau riche from the faucets.	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	Ice cold like my wallet.	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	More withdrawals than the bank allows.	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	Got OTC rep, who gon Gox me now?	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	noob writer's mistake, really. but it does make all sorts of marginals usable as journo replacement, so.	[21:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00423716 = 0.4237 BTC [-] {8}	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	"When an Uber driver kills someone, who is responsible?"	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	what's an uber driver ?	[21:15]
ThickAsThieves	.d	[21:15]
ozbot	2193847870.17428 \| Next Diff in 1330 blocks \| Estimated Change: 12.3047% in 8d 2h 21m 22s	[21:15]
ThickAsThieves	decentalized taxis!	[21:15]
ThickAsThieves	decentralized*	[21:15]
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kakobrekla	bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203	[21:18]
kakobrekla	http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203	[21:18]
ozbot	Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	nice words, kako	[21:19]
kakobrekla	ty.	[21:19]
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mircea_popescu	lol you have too much time	[21:20]
ThickAsThieves	http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/	[21:20]
ozbot	BitBet - May I suggest 9B difficulty?	[21:20]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu thats why nothing gets done	[21:20]
ThickAsThieves	i'm tempted to No	[21:20]
ThickAsThieves	but my brain tells me lessons were meant to be learned	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	which is why brainfucking is so pleasant	[21:22]
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mike_c	bitbet proposal: kako is re-banned on bitcointalk by march	[21:22]
kakobrekla	:(	[21:22]
mike_c	i love your posts, just not sure if they are universally admired	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	but what if kako pays for unbanment	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	^	[21:23]
kakobrekla	that just calls for an ipo	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	sell banning insurance	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	we pay your bail	[21:24]
kakobrekla	that could work	[21:25]
kakobrekla	how much do they want anyway?	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	kakokare : you must pay some btc each month	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	for free unbanning down the road	[21:25]
kakobrekla	not they, thermos	[21:25]
kakobrekla	kakokare lol	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif << leaving this here if anyone needs caption base	[21:26]
ThickAsThieves	it looks like a monster face	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	to me it looks like forum investors being... serviced.	[21:26]
ThickAsThieves	like fleshy preying mantis	[21:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00088654 = 27.2168 BTC [-] {2}	[21:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12263 @ 0.00088498 = 10.8525 BTC [-]	[21:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00085891 = 0.2577 BTC [+] {3}	[21:33]
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nubbins`	another big power outage yesterday	[21:43]
nubbins`	i have serious reservations about the future	[21:43]
Apocalyptic	is anyone watching http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs ?	[21:47]
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Apocalyptic	the woman is discussing a centralized currency backed by the federal reserve's gold	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	some were but i suspect eventually got bored.	[21:47]
Apocalyptic	panel 2 just started now	[21:48]
ThickAsThieves	someone shut her up already	[21:48]
Apocalyptic	^	[21:48]
Apocalyptic	imma surf of the bitcoin thingy to promote my shit	[21:49]
Apocalyptic	*on	[21:49]
nubbins`	a gold-backed currency	[21:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00088879 = 29.2412 BTC [+] {3}	[21:49]
nubbins`	how novel	[21:49]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	"you guise are like snark bullion already" ~mpoe-pr	[21:50]
nubbins`	in the meantime, i just received an email receipt for that $100/$100 coin	[21:50]
nubbins`	so i guess i've got a birthday gift on the way ;p	[21:50]
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nubbins`	gotta say i like this silver-backed coins thing the mint is pushing	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	one day the girl will read these logs and think you're such a smug asshole!!1	[21:51]
nubbins`	even if most of the designs are uninspiring	[21:51]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, no sense masking the truth	[21:51]
nubbins`	when i was freaking out at our last batch of tenants, one of them said -- no joke -- "you'll be single again soon if your wife ever finds out your true nature"	[21:52]
nubbins`	this was in response to me calling them subhuman knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha	[21:52]
nubbins`	"actually i've been relaying all this to my wife, and she can't breathe for laughing"	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	perhaps teh mouth-breathers have a point. get her into d/s asap.	[21:52]
nubbins`	the mouth breathers had no point	[21:53]
nubbins`	their defense in legal proceedings was essentially "no we didn't"	[21:54]
nubbins`	in response to all the allegations	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/IlTtW1m.jpg	[21:54]
mircea_popescu	^ nsfw	[21:54]
nubbins`	aww ;(	[21:54]
nubbins`	are those possums	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	those are QUTELS	[21:55]
ThickAsThieves	cutelels	[21:55]
nubbins`	with a name like that, i bet they've got their own ubuntu release	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	cuatls, really. but it needs more cute in the spelling	[21:55]
nubbins`	quirky qutel	[21:55]
nubbins`	cuirky cuatl	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	the 2nd one from the mother could have its own coin	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	flatten dodgecoin	[21:56]
nubbins`	the one with his face hidden by an ass?	[21:56]
nubbins`	a2mcoin	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	a nm. the 1st one. the jumper guy	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	derpjump of 2.5 inches.	[21:56]
nubbins`	taking a cute photograph = block found	[21:57]
nubbins`	reward is based on aesthetics	[21:57]
nubbins`	i wonder when we'll see a celebrity come out with their own alt?	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	coyne west guy neh ?	[21:58]
nubbins`	well yeah but in reverse	[21:58]
nubbins`	like justin bieber launches biebcoin	[21:58]
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nubbins`	rather than some no-name stealing his thunder	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	actually, all the hollywood strumpets could band together	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	and make slutcoin.	[21:59]
mircea_popescu	blockchain stores all their secret homeporn for all eternity	[21:59]
ThickAsThieves	wivesofbitcoincoin	[21:59]
nubbins`	"worried about your image being misappropriated by those altcoin nerds? jump the gun, call Custom Alts Inc today!"	[21:59]
nubbins`	just like IMDb and actor photos	[21:59]
nubbins`	"pay us to submit a photo so you don't get stuck with a turd mugshot"	[22:00]
nubbins`	if kanye had done this, he could have picked a cool logo AND a better name	[22:00]
ThickAsThieves	i dunno, good coin names arent easy	[22:00]
nubbins`	doesn't have to be good	[22:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 99 @ 0.0290873 = 2.8796 BTC [+] {11}	[22:01]
nubbins`	for example, know what paris hilton's perfume is called?	[22:01]
nubbins`	paris hilton.	[22:01]
ThickAsThieves	plus, everyone would call them coinyes anyway	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	i wonder what her turds are called.	[22:01]
nubbins`	well no that's the thing	[22:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves coinyes, the rapecoin ?	[22:01]
nubbins`	if kanye had made his coin first	[22:01]
nubbins`	there never would have been a coinye.	[22:02]
nubbins`	it woulda been some other schmo	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	what i mean is like if mp made a coin called Mircea Popescu	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	kinda surprised there's no obamacoin yet.	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	we'd just call it mpexcoin	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	"for illegal political campaign contributions"	[22:02]
nubbins`	well yeah sure	[22:02]
ThickAsThieves	one day the YMCA changed its name to The Y	[22:03]
Apocalyptic	"maybe there is a backdoor somewhere in bitcoin"	[22:03]
kakobrekla	ITS STILL BETA STFU	[22:03]
ThickAsThieves	it's right behind you!	[22:03]
nubbins`	and magic the gathering online exchange changed its name to mtgox	[22:03]
Apocalyptic	lol TAT	[22:03]
ThickAsThieves	somneone please say No and No	[22:04]
nubbins`	did i ever tell you guys that we once made a bespoke children's book for a single dad?	[22:05]
nubbins`	2 copies, the guy wanted. all original illustrations	[22:05]
nubbins`	was something like $200 per book	[22:05]
ThickAsThieves	notbad	[22:05]
nubbins`	gave one to his kid and the other to mom ;(	[22:05]
nubbins`	the title: "who loves you?"	[22:05]
nubbins`	(hint: not mom!)	[22:06]
ThickAsThieves	Betteridge's law	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	wow srlsy ?	[22:06]
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mircea_popescu	why do people more readily spend on art to be assholes than to be pleasant ?	[22:06]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: well, it never came right out and said, but...	[22:06]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: you ever pay anyone 1btc to stick a sharpie in their mouth? ;p	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	jajaja	[22:07]
ThickAsThieves	zing!	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	see, that i posit is not my fault, but the resistance of the medium. i tried to give strippers 1 btc for free. they wouldn't take it.	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	once i offered it for shoving things in painful places... takers, suddenly.	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	people are mostly so smart they end up doing it to themselves.	[22:07]
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ThickAsThieves	did you offer the strippers same deal?	[22:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 895 @ 0.00082526 = 0.7386 BTC [-] {6}	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	no.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	AshleyV ping	[22:11]
kakobrekla	we need a bigger sample size	[22:11]
kakobrekla	more buttcoins and more strippers	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	no, real climate science depends on low sample sizes.	[22:12]
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kakobrekla	ipcc fucking up my arguments.	[22:12]
dub	its cold today, global warming is bunk	[22:14]
kakobrekla	thats why its not 'global warming' anymore but 'climate change'	[22:15]
kakobrekla	it can go either way and they are right, we are doomed.	[22:15]
dub	sure it is	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	im saving myself for "climate period"	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	then the weather could have pms	[22:15]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:15]
dub	you should have a climate sexchange	[22:15]
Apocalyptic	wow the woman knows about private keys	[22:15]
mircea_popescu	sad fucking state of affairs we've lived to see	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	"oo, the monkey knows what a doorknob is!"	[22:16]
kakobrekla	impressive monkey	[22:16]
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kakobrekla	litecoin guy is uncompromisable	[22:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00088498 = 5.9648 BTC [-]	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	he;'s got his fortress of litecoinitude /	[22:17]
kakobrekla	pumping his shit.	[22:17]
Apocalyptic	well mircea, i thought here way more clueless	[22:18]
Apocalyptic	*her	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	i get you, just, generally speaking	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	it's sad it's gotten this low.	[22:18]
dub	whats next.. niggers on irc?	[22:18]
Apocalyptic	^ already happened	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	i blame pestalozzi, personally. if every nine year old girl was given the choice of losing a finger a week or learning math like a pro we wouldn't have these problems	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	lots of girls with three fingers around, i guess, but hey.	[22:19]
jurov	from the mpex scientology thread: I wonder how the discussion would look like if there were no coinbr referrals.	[22:20]
jurov	hahaha	[22:20]
jurov	come on my shills!	[22:20]
libbelol	i wish mr litecoin ... knew more about how it all works? or even bothered to tell these clowns what they are talking about ?	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	libbelol what's that name come from ?	[22:20]
libbelol	libbe came from "liberator"	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	aha	[22:21]
libbelol	then i just added a lol once on irc, because libbe was taken (after i had been using it on quakenet for like 4 years+)	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	in likelines, before.	[22:21]
kakobrekla	omg litecoinguy shutup	[22:25]
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libbelol	WHAT THE FUCK. what. the fuck are they talking about	[22:27]
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libbelol	if an exchange holds bitcoins for you, they arent lost?	[22:27]
kakobrekla	if one should go under	[22:27]
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libbelol	the coins never dissapear tho	[22:28]
kakobrekla	well, not until i put them in my pocket	[22:28]
libbelol	fair enough, but that would be something else than just the exchange failing	[22:29]
libbelol	that would be you STEALING the coins	[22:29]
kakobrekla	well going under in a broad sense	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	that awkward moment when you realise people trying to teach you EVERYTHING, such as for instance, physics, or how to cook	[22:30]
mircea_popescu	have about as much of a clue as these dudes explaining bitcoin.	[22:30]
kakobrekla	"they like to support alternate currency"	[22:30]
Apocalyptic	omg litecoin guy	[22:30]
libbelol	REALLY	[22:30]
kakobrekla	LIKE FUCKING BITCOIN IS NOT ALTERNATE ENOUGH	[22:30]
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kakobrekla	BITCHSLAP	[22:30]
Apocalyptic	seriously nao	[22:30]
libbelol	he is such a fucking tool	[22:30]
libbelol	hahahahahaha	[22:31]
libbelol	here's going to be eaten	[22:31]
kakobrekla	wait, no, BITSLAP is what ill do.	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:31]
michiel_l_	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[22:31]
michiel_l_	midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c mircea_popescu mius mixdio	[22:31]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo mike_c benkay & the rest of the blogging crowd : you gonna trasncribe this ?	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	wiht like notes ? for the lulz ?	[22:31]
mike_c	i wish i could watch. fking internet is broken today.	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	could be a taaki speech moment.	[22:31]
kakobrekla	"so i lauched, and people saw the value, so they started mining it... " and he forgots to add "then they saw doge, and saw value in that and went mining that."	[22:31]
mike_c	can't access edgecast servers.	[22:32]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you don't understand shilling.	[22:32]
kakobrekla	back to the books.	[22:32]
libbelol	really?	[22:33]
mircea_popescu	amusingly, the usg debacle comes exactly less than a day after https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4802685#msg4802685	[22:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1329 @ 0.00082771 = 1.1 BTC [+] {3}	[22:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3400 @ 0.00082501 = 2.805 BTC [-] {3}	[22:37]
Apocalyptic	mike_c, there will be recordings	[22:37]
mike_c	ah, good	[22:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.000825 = 0.825 BTC [-]	[22:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 142 @ 0.00085973 = 0.1221 BTC [+] {3}	[22:39]
kakobrekla	some good ones http://imgur.com/a/H6vfA	[22:39]
Apocalyptic	he's talking about colour coins now	[22:40]
kakobrekla	OMG COLORED COINS ON TV	[22:40]
kakobrekla	hahaha	[22:40]
kakobrekla	ON COLOR TV	[22:40]
Apocalyptic	^	[22:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02999998 = 0.21 BTC [+]	[22:42]
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kakobrekla	blah	[22:46]
kakobrekla	disappointing talk	[22:46]
Namworld	yes	[22:47]
kakobrekla	"kinda but its like forever" ~litecoinguy	[22:47]
kakobrekla	NOT YOUR FUCKIN WORDS ARE THERE FOREVER	[22:47]
simlay	Was the first panel more interesting? I started ~10 minutes ago.	[22:48]
kakobrekla	it was certainly less stupid	[22:48]
Apocalyptic	it was yeah	[22:48]
Namworld	It's just the state of NY. Who cares about NY?	[22:48]
Namworld	First panel was actually good. At least in comparison.	[22:49]
kakobrekla	i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us	[22:49]
kakobrekla	illegal in half the states	[22:49]
kakobrekla	give or take.	[22:49]
mooninite	way more than half	[22:51]
mooninite	:( sniff toke	[22:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.028 = 0.308 BTC [-] {3}	[22:51]
kakobrekla	i wouldnt be surprised tbh	[22:52]
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kakobrekla	"we cant regulate it, throw a blanket on it and hit it with a shovel"	[22:53]
punkman	message from US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrjzOUZJI4	[22:54]
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Namworld	The plaid Bitcoin map of the US. Legend: Gray - Illegal \| Gold - Legal	[22:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 300 @ 0.00170089 = 0.5103 BTC [+]	[22:57]
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mircea_popescu	lol at the fixed brands.	[23:06]
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mircea_popescu	simlay no.	[23:07]
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mircea_popescu	i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us << there is no actual way to make bitcoin illegal. think about it.	[23:07]
kakobrekla	well they is no actual way to make a lot of things, yet they still do it	[23:08]
kakobrekla	that is not the point	[23:08]
Namworld	He never said it would work. Just that the states would hit on the head of their citizens found using it.	[23:08]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[23:08]
kakobrekla	you can make it illegal by making such rules that for example you need to apply for licences and shit, but give you no actual way to get to them	[23:09]
kakobrekla	i have seen this happen before.	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	a licence to what ?	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	you can recreate bitcoin as fucking pet rocks.	[23:09]
mircea_popescu	make pet rocks illegal ?	[23:09]
kakobrekla	for fiat btc biz	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	kinda shockingly narrow usecase.	[23:10]
kakobrekla	yeah well i do not expect 7000 exchanges in the us.	[23:11]
kakobrekla	it will be as you put it shockingly few.	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	giving us citizens more reasons to travel abroad isn't such a bad idea.	[23:12]
kakobrekla	way off point, so imma gonna go. brb	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	that country is still governable strictly because most of the population doesn't know how shitty its life is as compared to poor people in the third world.	[23:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44103 @ 0.00088921 = 39.2168 BTC [+] {2}	[23:13]
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mircea_popescu	https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600	[23:17]
ozbot	Twitter / AGlusskiy: @Mircea_Popescu I am sure that ...	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	incoming.	[23:17]
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mike_c	date set?	[23:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00088481 = 32.9149 BTC [-] {3}	[23:23]
mike_c	i am curious how the havelock crowd will react to what is at least a good fiat investment.	[23:23]
mike_c	good luck.	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04888885 = 0.2444 BTC [-] {2}	[23:28]
Apocalyptic	https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600 // what's the context ?	[23:30]
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mircea_popescu	i dunno, some guy's gonna help me fix bitcoinz ?	[23:40]
kakobrekla	i thought vitalik is onto that	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/744/charlie-shrem-will-plead-guilty-to-money-laundering incidentally.	[23:41]
ozbot	BitBet - Charlie Shrem will plead guilty to money laundering	[23:41]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla is there some way to see conversations on twitter ?	[23:42]
kakobrekla	dafuq do i know	[23:42]
dub	doubt he'd go guilty on that	[23:43]
dub	one of the others maybe	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	nah, cause the others carry 5 years top	[23:44]
dub	exactly	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	well doh. plead guilty to a 5 year tops first offense you get out in six months.	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	what makes you think that's on the table ? it'd be more embarassing to the da than not making the arrest in hte first place.	[23:45]
dub	presumably he'll find some people to sell out	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	ironically, he could do a lot of damage arguing the case to all hell.	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	in spite of all the success pretense, doubtful he has either the gumption or the resources,	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	but then again that's what life's for, we find out.	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	in either case sooner or later would-be preditors will learn the hard way messing with bitcoin is not unlike trying to lick a porcupine to death.	[23:47]
azi`	hm.. that's so weird.. sending torvalds btc tips http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/402112/linus-torvalds-and-other-developers-are-leaving-bitcoins-table	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	that's ridoinculous, torvalds never was "at the table"	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	what bs is this	[23:51]
dub	a whole thousand dollars!	[23:51]
dub	he's leaving buttcoin on the table, not leaving the table of buttcoin	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	itworld needs to hire better monkeys.	[23:51]
dub	granted to an internet journalist its a lot of money	[23:53]
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azi`	fyi its even less than 1k	[23:53]
azi`	more like $200	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	ironically, the spurious "tip" service generated less for torvalds than the strippers left on the table in the earlier linkd material	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	clearly very relevant and everything	[23:54]
kakobrekla	just use a pic or two, each is worth a thousand words	[23:58]
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