Forum logs for 28 Jan 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [06:38] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades | [06:38] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 | [06:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00065627 = 11.2905 BTC [-] | [06:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11956 @ 0.000651 = 7.7834 BTC [-] | [06:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00064714 = 14.7548 BTC [-] | [07:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00064 = 1.248 BTC [-] | [07:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00064 = 15.808 BTC [-] | [07:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00064 = 4.9728 BTC [-] | [07:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00063948 = 12.246 BTC [-] | [07:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13080 @ 0.00063915 = 8.3601 BTC [-] | [07:30] |
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mircea_popescu | if anyone is looking for an economic/political debate --> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/of-skimmed-milk-and-skimming-the-milk/ | [07:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00065009 = 15.1146 BTC [+] | [07:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 13 @ 0.13 = 1.69 BTC [+] | [07:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00726989 = 2.181 BTC [+] | [08:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13324 @ 0.00065009 = 8.6618 BTC [+] | [08:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00063915 = 3.7071 BTC [-] | [08:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.3399 = 3.399 BTC [-] | [08:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30129 @ 0.0006443 = 19.4121 BTC [+] | [08:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3421 @ 0.00063915 = 2.1865 BTC [-] | [08:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1632 @ 0.00726989 = 11.8645 BTC [+] | [09:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4408 @ 0.00064847 = 2.8585 BTC [+] | [09:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00063932 = 0.1867 BTC [-] | [09:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17851 @ 0.00063932 = 11.4125 BTC [-] | [09:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.3399 = 5.7783 BTC [-] | [09:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+] | [09:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10866 @ 0.00065009 = 7.0639 BTC [+] | [09:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1534 @ 0.00065787 = 1.0092 BTC [+] | [09:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8807 @ 0.00063932 = 5.6305 BTC [-] | [09:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1393 @ 0.00063915 = 0.8903 BTC [-] | [09:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1207 @ 0.00728138 = 8.7886 BTC [+] | [09:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00063915 = 8.0533 BTC [-] | [09:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19366 @ 0.00065787 = 12.7403 BTC [+] | [09:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00065822 = 12.5062 BTC [+] | [09:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1834 @ 0.00065823 = 1.2072 BTC [+] | [09:52] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [09:55] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 17.92002, Best ask: 17.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 17.92001, 24 hour volume: 24197.67894909, 24 hour low: 17.21000, 24 hour high: 18.00000, 24 hour vwap: 17.77575 | [09:55] |
smickles | ah finally, proper accounting for soebot | [09:59] |
smickles | i have income statements, balance sheets, cash flow, equity, the works | [10:00] |
smickles | :D | [10:00] |
mircea_popescu | wd! | [10:01] |
mircea_popescu | you gonna publish it ? | [10:01] |
smickles | hmm, hadn't considered it yet | [10:02] |
mircea_popescu | prolly a good thing for teh community | [10:03] |
mircea_popescu | have some examples. i bet you 90% of the people who are or are considering issuing "an asset" have never seen a set of gaap statements | [10:03] |
mircea_popescu | and since pretty much everyone is a 20something male geek, they learn by example rather than by description. | [10:04] |
error4733 | Goooood morning Coinland | [10:04] |
mircea_popescu | hi. | [10:04] |
error4733 | http://i.qkme.me/3sr4r6.jpg | [10:04] |
smickles | heh, i used gnucash for this. it makes proper gaap statements as far as i can tell | [10:04] |
mircea_popescu | did they eventually resolve the debate of what btc should be called ? | [10:04] |
mircea_popescu | error4733 tenses are fuct. | [10:04] |
smickles | i don't think so, i had to use XXX | [10:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [10:05] |
mircea_popescu | pr0nmoniz ? | [10:05] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of which, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135936043190.gif | [10:07] |
mircea_popescu | when they crash she learns to deepthroat. | [10:07] |
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Anduck | !ticker s.dice | [10:11] |
assbot | Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? | [10:11] |
Anduck | !ticker mpex s.dice | [10:11] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722182 / 0.007425 / 0.00749999 (112051 shares, 831.98 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00522291 / 0.0075 (1190995 shares, 6,220.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00427442 / 0.0075 (10554315 shares, 45,113.65 BTC) | [10:12] |
Anduck | fu assbot u know what i meant | [10:12] |
mircea_popescu | lol srsly. | [10:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064792 = 9.6216 BTC [-] | [10:18] |
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Andck | hmmm | [10:18] |
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azx | good evening | [10:28] |
mircea_popescu | hi | [10:29] |
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assbot | the ass is dead, long live the ass! | [10:43] |
assbot | kakobrekla: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/5/5d/Hello.jpg | [10:45] |
SomeoneWeird | -_- | [10:47] |
SomeoneWeird | dntclicktht | [10:48] |
Bowjob | goatse | [10:49] |
azx | lol, I almost clicked that link | [10:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1907 @ 0.0073551 = 14.0262 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00745535 = 3.3549 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17643 @ 0.00749999 = 132.3223 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20453 @ 0.00063915 = 13.0725 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7147 @ 0.00063885 = 4.5659 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1423 @ 0.00737302 = 10.4918 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064313 = 5.1129 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00064313 = 2.7976 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8893 @ 0.0006401 = 5.6924 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14853 @ 0.00063885 = 9.4888 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00063857 = 8.8148 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8096 @ 0.00063857 = 5.1699 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23317 @ 0.00063839 = 14.8853 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00749999 = 13.5 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00064427 = 9.5674 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064427 = 2.7059 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00065228 = 5.2182 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6283 @ 0.00063839 = 4.011 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1767 @ 0.00063831 = 1.1279 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12526 @ 0.00065254 = 8.1737 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4074 @ 0.00065823 = 2.6816 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18109 @ 0.00064378 = 11.6582 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1091 @ 0.00065823 = 0.7181 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14283 @ 0.00063831 = 9.117 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 680 @ 0.00063725 = 0.4333 BTC [-] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21466 @ 0.00065182 = 13.992 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.82 BTC [+] | [14:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] | [14:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] | [14:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.7003 = 14.006 BTC [-] | [14:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.7002 = 14.004 BTC [-] | [14:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 9 @ 0.7 = 6.3 BTC [-] | [14:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6139 @ 0.00065823 = 4.0409 BTC [+] | [14:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2911 @ 0.00065999 = 1.9212 BTC [+] | [14:12] |
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jurov | "As we move forward into a world ever-filling with computers and networks, the success of Bitcoin, much like the Internet itself, liset in the actions of the people who will continue to use it and promote it and to fight on its behalf in doing so. They may take our lives, but they can never take our Bitcoin." | [14:20] |
jurov | ^^ bitcoin tabloid #6, page 57 | [14:21] |
jurov | got for free yest | [14:21] |
* | jurov is ready to die for Bitcoinssses | [14:21] |
jurov | lmao yes mikhail alisie boasted they put it on the table next to cosmopolitan and circlejerk ensued "yeah, it feels similar" | [14:31] |
jurov | so i'm leafing in it and encountered this: http://live.coinbr.com/images/bfl.jpg | [14:31] |
jurov | had to scan it in. definitely cosmopolitan material | [14:31] |
thestringpuller | jurov: are you russian? | [14:32] |
jurov | no, slovak | [14:32] |
jurov | why? | [14:33] |
jurov | i misspelled his name? | [14:33] |
kakobrekla | lol | [14:34] |
kakobrekla | where is that pic from jurov | [14:34] |
kakobrekla | ah | [14:34] |
kakobrekla | bitcoin tabloid #6, page 57? | [14:34] |
kakobrekla | i guess. | [14:34] |
jurov | you want *that* drivel scanned? | [14:35] |
jurov | but it's like 3 pages :/ | [14:35] |
kakobrekla | its ok. | [14:35] |
kakobrekla | ill manage without :) | [14:35] |
kakobrekla | ty | [14:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0074 BTC [-] | [14:35] |
jurov | nuff fun. back to work. | [14:39] |
kakobrekla | man | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | been importing blockchain to postgres | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | its taking over a week | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | and still not done | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | impossibru | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | would be funny if i couldnt catch up to it. | [14:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+] | [14:57] |
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jurov | uh, postgres? i like it, but i'd rather use that opportunity to dive into knuth and other less known data structures | [15:02] |
jurov | or just use files on reiser4 :D | [15:02] |
kakobrekla | hm | [15:04] |
pigeons | https://github.com/billstclair/fsdb | [15:09] |
jurov | but i'm serious with the reiser4 . i heard some were using it to store deserialized xml, myself was taken aback how fast it accesses gentoo portage compared to anything else | [15:11] |
jurov | so sad reiser was such a maniac otherwise | [15:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1419 @ 0.00065999 = 0.9365 BTC [+] | [15:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.00066028 = 1.176 BTC [+] | [15:21] |
Bugpowder | gem is about to hit 100BTC http://www.bitcoingem.com | [15:25] |
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DeadWeasel | never knew that existed. is there a history for price and number of purchases? | [15:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00065746 = 5.95 BTC [-] | [15:28] |
DeadWeasel | found it | [15:28] |
DeadWeasel | what an odd idea. never know when the next buyer is going to arrive though. | [15:30] |
jurov | they heard mircea wondering what to do of these 7kbtc he suddenly got on thursday | [15:31] |
jurov | *with these | [15:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+] | [15:31] |
Bugpowder | you know when its gonna arrive | [15:35] |
Bugpowder | IMMEDIATELY | [15:35] |
Bugpowder | its very difficult to get your bid in before someone else bids. | [15:35] |
Bugpowder | at this point | [15:35] |
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azx | jurov: reiser4 is super when you have loads of tiny files in huge piles | [15:39] |
jurov | azx, i know. and many storage problems can be implemented in that way. | [15:40] |
kakobreklaaa | fuckin ass. | [15:40] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [15:40] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.12000, Best ask: 18.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 18.25000, 24 hour volume: 31140.10147696, 24 hour low: 17.45000, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 17.92591 | [15:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00066029 = 4.2919 BTC [+] | [15:49] |
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thestringpuller | kakobreklaaa: wtf postgres? | [16:18] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m S.DICE | [16:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.00744254 / 0.00749999 (122574 shares, 912.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00526603 / 0.0075 (1205508 shares, 6,348.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0042815 / 0.0075 (10577036 shares, 45,285.60 BTC) | [16:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2267 @ 0.00066029 = 1.4969 BTC [+] | [16:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00066127 = 5.3232 BTC [+] | [16:24] |
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kakobrekla | http://bou.si/4c/1353994707219.jpg | [16:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00066411 = 11.5887 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.000665 = 1.0973 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
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kakobrekla | http://shrani.si/f/2m/GT/f3aqrFT/terry-richardson-cow-wom.jpg | [16:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.00743189 = 4.0875 BTC [-] | [16:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00745017 = 33.1533 BTC [+] | [16:45] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 50 @ 0.8 = 40 BTC [-] | [16:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.0006627 = 17.926 BTC [-] | [16:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.000665 = 4.0951 BTC [+] | [17:04] |
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topace | !ticker h sdice | [17:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.79900000 / 0.8 / 0.81000000 (69 shares, 55.20000000 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.60774289 / 0.81000000 (1369 shares, 832.00001806 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.49998681 / 0.81000000 (5268 shares, 2633.93051794 BTC) | [17:16] |
pigeons | this seems odd http://bitbet.us/bet/99/mpex-s-dice-price-ranges-0-00445-0-00495/ | [17:21] |
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thestringpuller | yea why is it not closed | [17:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00745016 = 14.9003 BTC [-] | [17:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00745017 = 3.7251 BTC [+] | [17:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2393 @ 0.00066355 = 1.5879 BTC [-] | [17:59] |
kakobrekla | why would it be closed? | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | !ticker m s.dice | [18:01] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.00744277 / 0.00749999 (127674 shares, 950.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00527973 / 0.0075 (1204612 shares, 6,360.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC) | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | hmm | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | yeah | [18:02] |
kakobrekla | silly. | [18:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57 @ 0.00066355 = 0.0378 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4775 @ 0.0006627 = 3.1644 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
thestringpuller | when is dividends day for s.dice? | [18:10] |
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Korbman | ;;ticker | [18:15] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.22130, Best ask: 18.22401, Bid-ask spread: 0.00271, Last trade: 18.22130, 24 hour volume: 32164.29648754, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.25000, 24 hour vwap: 17.99353 | [18:15] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] 280 @ 0.0015 = 0.42 BTC [+] | [18:22] |
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kakobrekla | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-28/bitcoin-s-gains-may-fuel-central-bank-concerns-chart-of-the-day.html | [18:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00066025 = 6.7676 BTC [-] | [18:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24566 @ 0.00065746 = 16.1512 BTC [-] | [18:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31568 @ 0.00065746 = 20.7547 BTC [-] | [18:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2232 @ 0.00065236 = 1.4561 BTC [-] | [18:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00065236 = 6.4257 BTC [-] | [18:54] |
Korbman | kakobrekla: that article is a bit disconcerning | [18:55] |
Korbman | I'd like to think Bitcoin is gaining traction, but not nearly enough to undermine a bank | [18:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2268 @ 0.00066028 = 1.4975 BTC [+] | [18:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00066159 = 6.4174 BTC [+] | [18:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1232 @ 0.00066499 = 0.8193 BTC [+] | [18:56] |
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DeadWeasel | nice article kakobrekla | [19:15] |
jurov | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/01/28/government-ban-on-bitcoin-would-fail-miserably/ | [19:17] |
jurov | other opinion. quite saner. | [19:17] |
DeadWeasel | thank you | [19:24] |
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jcpham | good 'ol matonis | [19:24] |
jcpham | poking a stick at the gubment | [19:24] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [19:25] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.23500, Best ask: 18.29800, Bid-ask spread: 0.06300, Last trade: 18.23500, 24 hour volume: 32801.03890254, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.29800, 24 hour vwap: 18.01947 | [19:25] |
Bugpowder | dudes | [19:25] |
Bugpowder | are we going to seriously challenge $20 again | [19:25] |
kakobrekla | yeah | [19:26] |
kakobrekla | so sad | [19:26] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 20 | [19:27] |
jcpham | make me want to cry | [19:27] |
gribble | There are currently 37282.992 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 710857.914524 USD in total. | [19:27] |
thestringpuller | ;;bids 17 | [19:27] |
gribble | There are currently 17502.231 bitcoins demanded at or over 17.0 USD, worth 305581.921765 USD in total. | [19:27] |
thestringpuller | ;;bids 18 | [19:27] |
gribble | There are currently 1048.9977 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 18980.1324954 USD in total. | [19:27] |
Bugpowder | I am feeling better about drunken purchse of 4,000 calls on Sat night at the ask. | [19:28] |
thestringpuller | what C180? | [19:28] |
Bugpowder | C170-200 | [19:28] |
thestringpuller | is 17 worth more now? | [19:29] |
Bugpowder | the asks are all up 4-7% | [19:30] |
Bugpowder | and the bot hasn't yet caught up to the rise in price. | [19:30] |
Bugpowder | no buyers out there though | [19:30] |
Bugpowder | for now | [19:30] |
thestringpuller | what do you do if the price begins to fall? | [19:31] |
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thestringpuller | !ticker m O.BTCUSD.C170T | [19:31] |
thestringpuller | come one assbot | [19:31] |
Bugpowder | I dunno | [19:31] |
Bugpowder | we are still 25 days out | [19:32] |
Bugpowder | not gonna panic sell | [19:32] |
Bugpowder | just keep them up just under mope bot | [19:32] |
Bugpowder | someone will probably buy them eventually | [19:32] |
Korbman | !ticker m s.dice | [19:34] |
Bugpowder | Over 100k bet on S.DICE since the last doog post | [19:34] |
Bugpowder | 1 million in bets might be in play this month | [19:35] |
kakobrekla | again this. | [19:37] |
awkorama | hello everyone | [19:41] |
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awkorama | does anyone know whether there is a full credit market somewhere in bitcoin ? | [19:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00065395 = 16.1526 BTC [-] | [19:42] |
assbot | sorru guise, im sick. | [19:43] |
jurov | awkorama, hello, what do you mean? | [19:44] |
awkorama | some exchange, where I can trade credit derivatives | [19:44] |
awkorama | mainly credit default swaps that is | [19:44] |
Korbman | !ticker m s.dice | [19:45] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.0074427 / 0.00749999 (125491 shares, 933.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.00528 / 0.0075 (1201012 shares, 6,341.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC) | [19:45] |
jurov | dunno.. and bitcoin defaulted loans are usually worthless | [19:45] |
awkorama | well they wouldn't be if there was protection to buy | [19:46] |
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DeadWeasel | sounds like a business opportunity for you awkorama | [19:47] |
jurov | i mean, it's impossible to price such a thing reasonably.. but if you can yes it's opportunity | [19:47] |
awkorama | demand and supply is enough for pricing I suppose | [19:48] |
awkorama | and I don't know what the difference would be, trading CDS's on public corporation (e.g. IBM) or on S.DICE.. same thing really | [19:49] |
DeadWeasel | i loathe things I don't understand. Credit Default Swaps are one of those things (there are many). | [19:49] |
awkorama | DeadWeasel: do you understand shorting ? | [19:49] |
mod6 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap | [19:50] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [19:50] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.42990, Best ask: 18.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.02007, Last trade: 18.45000, 24 hour volume: 37939.91168858, 24 hour low: 17.60000, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.06613 | [19:50] |
Bugpowder | counterparty risk in bitcoin world is astronomical | [19:51] |
Bugpowder | people have made reinsurance and default insurance funds | [19:51] |
Bugpowder | they were all scams | [19:51] |
Bugpowder | or so ineptly run so as to approximate scams (usagi for example) | [19:51] |
mod6 | ^^^^ | [19:52] |
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awkorama | i understand that otc cds market would not work, that's why exchange + clearing house that is (more trusted) is required | [19:52] |
awkorama | that would escro the collateral | [19:53] |
awkorama | escrow** | [19:53] |
DeadWeasel | so it's loan insurance? | [19:53] |
DeadWeasel | it's turtles all the way down... | [19:54] |
awkorama | yes | [19:54] |
DeadWeasel | thx for link. figured it would be more complicated. | [19:54] |
awkorama | sorry, what does that idiom mean? | [19:54] |
DeadWeasel | after checking the wiki, it is not an apt metaphor. | [19:55] |
DeadWeasel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down | [19:55] |
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jurov | awkorama, actually do you see any two parties atm where cds would work? | [19:56] |
awkorama | yes | [19:56] |
jurov | for example? | [19:56] |
jurov | i mean in bitcoinland | [19:56] |
awkorama | somebody wanting to short s.dice | [19:56] |
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awkorama | vs. someone trying to invest in it indirectly | [19:57] |
jurov | smickles already offers s.dice for shorting | [19:57] |
jurov | now if he wanted to use cds to insure the loan, how would he go about it? | [19:58] |
awkorama | he would buy CDS | [19:59] |
awkorama | in the event of default (determined by the exchange on objective conditions) he would receive the principal | [20:00] |
jurov | yes. but how would you price the cds (if you were selling them)? that would be insane | [20:00] |
awkorama | as a seller of protection ? | [20:01] |
awkorama | mainly using the interest rate + research on the reference entity | [20:02] |
jurov | in a situation like... on btcjam is only some 78% loans paid. and they ask personal info to eventually recover these loans later | [20:02] |
jurov | we don't have much personal info between us | [20:03] |
awkorama | well then that protection would be bloody expensive | [20:03] |
awkorama | because the loan itself is risky | [20:03] |
jurov | mircea already did experiment with CDOs, and it didn't go well exactly cause of this | [20:05] |
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awkorama | 78% is a bad overall rate, I give you that | [20:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17429 @ 0.00065149 = 11.3548 BTC [-] | [20:06] |
awkorama | but in theory CDS's should help here, cause they generally increase liquidity of debt | [20:08] |
jurov | one can't just transplant real life financials here, just reinvent them. I think MPOE was so successful cause it is basically short-term. It loans every month anew. | [20:10] |
awkorama | meaning, if I lend someone 100BTC today and tommorow I don't feel like having such big exposure to him anymore, I can just insure some part of that debt | [20:10] |
jurov | the mpoe contract is clear and for the issuer has incentive to stick to it | [20:10] |
awkorama | how do these options btw work on MPEx, is the seller required to pay collateral (since he has potential unlimited loss) ? | [20:11] |
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Bugpowder | yes | [20:12] |
Bugpowder | 1btc for calls | [20:12] |
Bugpowder | a bit more for puts | [20:12] |
Bugpowder | max loss is 1btc on calls | [20:12] |
Bugpowder | max loss is Inf btc on put | [20:12] |
Bugpowder | but at btc = | [20:12] |
awkorama | yeah, sure | [20:13] |
Bugpowder | btc = $0, who cares about being down Inf bitcoins | [20:13] |
Bugpowder | http://mpex.co/faq.html | [20:13] |
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jurov | that is not exactly explained in the faq | [20:14] |
Bugpowder | the collateral reqs on the SPLIT order are a bit harsh. I think you should get 100 of each side for 100BTC, cause if one side goes to max, the other side is a zero. | [20:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00065395 = 1.6349 BTC [+] | [20:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00066499 = 5.1204 BTC [+] | [20:15] |
Bugpowder | "Each CALL requires 1 BTC of collateral irrespective of strike. Each PUT requires an amount of collateral equal to strike / spot BTC ." | [20:15] |
Bugpowder | ^^ from the FAQ | [20:15] |
jurov | i mean the reasoning behind that isn't there | [20:15] |
Bugpowder | lim of (x-s)/x as x -> Inf is pretty clear | [20:16] |
Bugpowder | why u don't need Inf colateral for the puts is not explained | [20:17] |
Bugpowder | nor is the puts equation correct in the faq it seems | [20:17] |
Bugpowder | I always get less puts then I think I'm gonna get | [20:17] |
jurov | i think cause btc can go 50% up and then 50% down in one month | [20:18] |
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Bugpowder_ | hehe it can do that in a WEEK | [20:20] |
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mircea_popescu | ahh what's new ? | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | lol jurov | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | that an ad ? | [20:36] |
jurov | y | [20:36] |
jurov | oh and there's a mention of Mircea Popescu | [20:38] |
jurov | they cite your article "The Reason Why Bitcoin Securities Can't be regulated by the SEC" | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [20:38] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.30000, Best ask: 18.42591, Bid-ask spread: 0.12591, Last trade: 18.30000, 24 hour volume: 39943.63867461, 24 hour low: 17.61001, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.09211 | [20:38] |
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mircea_popescu | [20:39] | |
mircea_popescu | jurov srsly ?! which one ? | [20:40] |
awkorama | mircea_popescu: I already kind of did, is there anything that you don't understand from the conversation that followed my initial question ? | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | i don't see that any of that pertains to credit derivatives tho. | [20:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00065149 = 11.2708 BTC [-] | [20:42] |
jurov | it's in Bitcoin and the Law article, btcmag #6, not signed | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | o, on paper ? | [20:42] |
jurov | yea | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | make me a pic would you ? can you even ? | [20:42] |
awkorama | by credit derivatives I mainly meant various CDS contracts, I am not really interested in CDO's or CDO^2's | [20:42] |
jurov | yes, mmnt | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | awkorama cds on what, specificqally ? | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | there's mpoe bonds in btc and that's about it. | [20:42] |
awkorama | well you can have CDS on equity as well | [20:43] |
awkorama | and also on general loans | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11068 @ 0.00066499 = 7.3601 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14192 @ 0.000665 = 9.4377 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00066582 = 1.4981 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9683 @ 0.00066591 = 6.448 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | i guess you could... | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | there was an attempt, the mpcd series | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | it failed miserably. | [20:44] |
awkorama | because what I feel strongly in the bitcoin world is that it is hard to trust anyone, so spreading the risk is the next logical step | [20:44] |
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mircea_popescu | do you want to read the mpcd history ? | [20:48] |
Ukto | hmm, can someone explain this to me.. 29k share sissued.. yet tyere are over 29k shares on the ask list... https://btct.co/security/BTC-BOND | [20:48] |
Bugpowder_ | I enjoyed the mpcd experience | [20:48] |
Ukto | er 29k outstanding | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto they allow naked shorts ? | [20:49] |
Ukto | dont think so | [20:49] |
Bugpowder_ | it was fun exiting each tranche before it exploded | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [20:49] |
Ukto | i cant post asks for more shares than I have | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | 0.0 | [20:51] |
Ukto | hence my "wtf" | [20:52] |
Bugpowder_ | So I am curious. What is the rationale for having the collateral requirements so high for split orders. Since one side is a zero if the other side goes up, shouldn't a reasonable deposit for 50 calls and ~50 puts be 50BTC instead of 100BTC? | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto that sounds like the very definition of "they allow naked shorting" | [20:52] |
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mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ sort of a dampening factor. | [20:53] |
Bugpowder_ | its an exercise issue? | [20:54] |
Ukto | oh yes | [20:54] |
Ukto | i ment to say yes earlier | [20:54] |
Ukto | not dont think so | [20:54] |
Ukto | not sure wtf i was typing | [20:54] |
Bugpowder_ | to prevent catastropic loss from a spike than crash? | [20:54] |
Bugpowder_ | ala august? | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ something like that. you're thinking "momentarily one is zero" this is true, but whiplash could make someone lose on both ends | [20:56] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu, http://live.coinbr.com/images/bitcoin_law.pdf , page 3 | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139529.msg1485624#msg1485624 i take it you're buying ? :p | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | jurov danke | [21:00] |
Bugpowder_ | I guess I just wish it wouldn't charge me for the deposit until the created contracts sold. | [21:01] |
jurov | not exactly nice to read, they seem to used anti-OCR background :P | [21:01] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i was gonna say WHAT THE FUCK ios that | [21:02] |
Bugpowder_ | well I tried to withdraw 100BTC from MPEX on Saturday to buy the gem, but never got my withdrawl | [21:02] |
Bugpowder_ | [21:02] | |
mircea_popescu | is thsi thing printed on cheap cloth | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ you sure you actually had the cash ? | [21:03] |
Bugpowder_ | maybe I placed some buy orders after that | [21:03] |
Bugpowder_ | and that blocked it | [21:03] |
jurov | it looks much better... but the halftoning clashes with my scanner | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | a a | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | so basically... you're pirateing here | [21:03] |
jurov | Reproduction without writtenm permission is strictly prohibited. | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | you dun goofed | [21:04] |
Bugpowder_ | seriously, what did the website owner THINK was gonna happen with the gem | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ its one of two things : either a scam to sell a worthless site to some dumbass "investor" (which is what i suspect, he;'s been buying his own gem) | [21:07] |
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Bugpowder | everything about the bitcoin world suggests that the price would rapidly go to 1000BTC+ | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | or else what the forum says, ie, he's passing the buck and then new owner dissapears, a la tom's azns | [21:07] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [21:07] |
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Bugpowder | Starting to look a lot like last thursday | [21:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 15 @ 0.3351 = 5.0265 BTC [-] | [21:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.333 = 3.33 BTC [-] | [21:13] |
Bugpowder | bidwall flashing at 18.20 | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [21:14] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.32401, Best ask: 18.39988, Bid-ask spread: 0.07587, Last trade: 18.32401, 24 hour volume: 40611.11390206, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.45000, 24 hour vwap: 18.10523 | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [21:14] |
thestringpuller | 17 looks like real price... | [21:15] |
Bugpowder | I dunno dude | [21:15] |
Bugpowder | 17 looks like a technical floor | [21:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00065149 = 13.3555 BTC [-] | [21:16] |
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mircea_popescu | i dun imagine it does under 18 myself | [21:17] |
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JWU_42 | <+amphipod> Jan28 19:17:19 mtgox x194 4,003.9372 @ 18.49732098 USD | [21:18] |
JWU_42 | beefy | [21:18] |
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Jackmani_ | jarpiain jborkl jcpham jurov JWU42 JWU_42 | [21:19] |
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mircea_popescu | JWU_42 i dunno how to read that, is it 4k btc in 194 diff orders ? | [21:20] |
Bugpowder_ | we just poked thru the 18.50 wall? | [21:20] |
Bugpowder_ | nice | [21:20] |
JWU_42 | yep | [21:20] |
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JWU_42 | well - 194 different asks IIRC | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | i remember the days buying 4k btc didn't run you 10k | [21:20] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;ask 20 | [21:20] |
gribble | Error: "ask" is not a valid command. | [21:20] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;asks 20 | [21:20] |
gribble | There are currently 28609.726 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 551692.514158 USD in total. | [21:20] |
Bugpowder_ | that is down from over 40,000 a few hours ago | [21:21] |
JWU_42 | hmm | [21:21] |
JWU_42 | ;;asks 19 | [21:21] |
Bugpowder_ | mtgox weekend delay coming thru | [21:21] |
gribble | There are currently 11455.979 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 215539.007546 USD in total. | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i wonder if i get a complimentary mag since i'm being quited in it :D | [21:21] |
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Bugpowder_ | see the drop on thurs | [21:21] |
Bugpowder_ | wire money | [21:21] |
Bugpowder_ | buy coins on monday | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ ya sounds likely. | [21:21] |
Bugpowder_ | this is why I bot calls on Saturday | [21:22] |
Bugpowder_ | That, and this http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/16909 | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | “I think the ECB obviously is concerned, and it’s not reputational,” said Steve Hanke, a professor at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | dude seriously ?! | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | what the fuck does that mean and when did they start doing the whole university thing in baltimore. | [21:22] |
Bugpowder_ | johns hopkins? | [21:23] |
Bugpowder_ | 1876 | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder_ im just hatin' | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | the curse of bitcoin : it can't get any coverage unless it's either a) completely clueless or else b) incredibly fanboish | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | it seems there can't be someone who gets it and doesn't care. | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | also matonis fucked up his link to the moldbug guy | [21:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00065424 = 7.5892 BTC [+] | [21:40] |
Bowjob | Whoa. 3 new dice winners | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | big ? | [21:40] |
Bowjob | I mean on the leaderboards | [21:40] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1500 @ 0.0074 = 11.1 BTC [-] | [21:42] |
jurov | would the SPLIT on O.BTCUSD.P160T for 2BTC make 1 put option or none? | [21:43] |
mircea_popescu | prolly none | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | um | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | actually prolly 1 | [21:44] |
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jurov | what's the formula? | [21:46] |
jurov | bugpowder has just complained bout it, too | [21:46] |
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jurov | strike/current would be 16/18 , that means collateral below 1BTC? | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | it takes a leetal more. not very much | [21:48] |
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Bugpowder_ | enough to push S.DICE thru 0.0075? | [21:54] |
Bugpowder_ | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1485906#msg1485906 | [21:54] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;ticker | [21:58] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.50501, Best ask: 18.60708, Bid-ask spread: 0.10207, Last trade: 18.50501, 24 hour volume: 47219.24403078, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.63895, 24 hour vwap: 18.16932 | [21:58] |
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mircea_popescu | SD Profit after fees: 51037.02759636 BTC (1.939%) | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | whoa ? | [21:59] |
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Bugpowder_ | yah | [22:00] |
Bugpowder_ | over 100k bet in the last 24. | [22:00] |
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Bugpowder_ | 840,000 BTC bet this month | [22:01] |
cheebydi | wait. what?! | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | huge. | [22:02] |
Bugpowder_ | yup | [22:02] |
Ukto | its been over a decade since i dod stock market stuffs.. if i have $10k in an eTrade account or w/e, and and put up a bid for a total of $10k on something that sits on the books, I can't just place another bid p to $10k for another asset, right? | [22:02] |
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pigeons | right | [22:03] |
pigeons | they copied the way bitfunder does it | [22:03] |
Ukto | LOL | [22:05] |
Ukto | you mean, Bitfunder does it the "normal" way | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto it's been debated in the forum numerous times. people who know better figure "it helps liquidity" | [22:06] |
Ukto | but its a lie. | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | if you want i can have the girl dig up the old posts. | [22:06] |
dub | dun worri, glbse 3 will have it | [22:06] |
Ukto | on btct, I can fill my account with 100btc, put up to 100btc orders on each asset, and withdraw the 100btc | [22:06] |
Ukto | and then its a complete, lie | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | dub speaking of which, what's happening to nefario's comeback thing ? | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | did he get the financing eventually ? | [22:07] |
dub | not heard anything about it | [22:07] |
Ukto | Regardless of 'pumping the numbers', i think traders have a right to knwo that a bid is actually backed, and not just a fake number on the books. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | traders are free to figure it out neh ? | [22:09] |
Ukto | I just cant bring myself to knowingly allow lies and inaccuracy on my system. | [22:09] |
Ukto | I will be letting Deprived know that it just wont be happening. | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | so then don't. | [22:09] |
Ukto | ;;tslb | [22:10] |
gribble | Time since last block: 33 minutes and 12 seconds | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | on btct, I can fill my account with 100btc, put up to 100btc orders on each asset, and withdraw the 100btc << this is pretty rich tho | [22:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00065424 = 1.0468 BTC [+] | [22:11] |
dub | thats awesome | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | it's like... | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder what bernanke's waiting for | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | should be in the fucking exchange rules for usd. | [22:11] |
dub | someone should rinse/repeat that and make a trillion btc wall | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | just for the lulz | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | ? | [22:13] |
dub | also for win | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | someone should make the whole thing | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 1. fake asset | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 2. fake bid and ask walls | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 3. ??? | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 4. !!! | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 5. etc | [22:14] |
dub | 99. profit | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | 34. pr0n first | [22:14] |
Ukto | dub: you coudl do it with muliple accounts | [22:15] |
Ukto | tho that would be obvious and burnside would prolly ban you for it. at least.. those accounts | [22:15] |
Ukto | lol | [22:15] |
jurov | or just match orders on one popular asset and closely watch the orderbook of others | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135491.msg1485958#msg1485958 lol @daniel having a shitfit | [22:15] |
Ukto | LOL | [22:17] |
dub | that dude is retarded | [22:17] |
DeadWeasel | gettin high on his own supply | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | he has a point, we really ought to discourage that sort of shit | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | the guy clearly is professionally breaking the law. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | not in a good way either. | [22:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18880 @ 0.00065424 = 12.3521 BTC [+] | [22:20] |
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DeadWeasel | If you had gold, what would you do with it? | [22:24] |
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mircea_popescu | sell it. | [22:24] |
dub | make a golden fist | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | and buy bitcoinz. | [22:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00065424 = 0.5038 BTC [+] | [22:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9351 @ 0.00065534 = 6.1281 BTC [+] | [22:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2779 @ 0.00066591 = 1.8506 BTC [+] | [22:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 5 @ 0.22362465 = 1.1181 BTC [+] | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [22:33] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.70001, Best ask: 18.74988, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 18.70001, 24 hour volume: 51140.36456515, 24 hour low: 17.67720, 24 hour high: 18.75000, 24 hour vwap: 18.22004 | [22:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 10 @ 0.19810428 = 1.981 BTC [+] | [22:34] |
DeadWeasel | that's the plan | [22:35] |
DeadWeasel | wish I'd done it at 1900 | [22:35] |
DeadWeasel | but it's in another state in a deposit box dammit | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | yah well. | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | exactly why i'd sell it lol. problem typified | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | "Chart Of The Day: Is The ECB Responsible For The Second Coming Of BitCoin? | Zero Hedge: | [22:36] |
DeadWeasel | good point | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | bah, can they get sillier ? | [22:36] |
Korbman | Anybody find it odd that Avalon has sort of..disappeared? Website and all.. | [22:36] |
Diablo-D3 | they ran aground, basically | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | here's bitcoin. let us try and pin some irrelevant fiat idiocy to it because it's not possible for fiat to be irrelevant | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | Korbman nope. | [22:36] |
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Korbman | mircea_popescu: haha yeah, I figured as much | [22:37] |
dub | inb4 chinese new year relic collector | [22:38] |
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mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/34/an-asic-unit-from-either-bfl-avalon-or/ | [22:39] |
Diablo-D3 | heh | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | this bet. still not resolved. specifically for that reason. | [22:39] |
Diablo-D3 | well hows this | [22:39] |
Diablo-D3 | when I get the board | [22:39] |
Diablo-D3 | Ill take photos of it | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [22:39] |
Diablo-D3 | and then I wont share the photos because Ill be too busy being rich | [22:40] |
dub | take pic in front of your DC with windmills in the background | [22:40] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: I plan on doing that anyhow | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://buttcoin.org/bitcoin-community-spotlight-johnniewalker | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | hey, this is back from the dead | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | also http://buttcoin.org/the-buttgem | [22:43] |
iz | heheh | [22:45] |
smickles | < Bugpowder> I always get less puts then I think I'm gonna get< that's b/c there is a volatility secret sauce in the calc | [22:45] |
Korbman | haha | [22:46] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.dice | [22:50] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00722786 / 0.0074427 / 0.00749999 (125491 shares, 933.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00085848 / 0.0052797 / 0.0075 (1193791 shares, 6,302.87 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00428374 / 0.0075 (10584536 shares, 45,341.47 BTC) | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 0.0074427/0.0042837 | [22:51] |
gribble | 1.7374465999 | [22:51] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc (0.0074427*18.75)/(0.0042837*13.75) | [22:52] |
gribble | 2.3692453635 | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | 150% monthly gains. this is the stuff legends are made out of. | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | the 10k btc pizza and the 150% a month s.dice investment. | [22:52] |
smickles | if it was on large volume, it'd sound like the beginning of the rothschilds | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | it IS on large volume tho. | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 45341.47 * 15 | [22:53] |
gribble | 680122.05 | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | well, for some values of "large" | [22:53] |
smickles | really? something like 400 million dollars? | [22:53] |
smickles | if i recally the story of nathan r. correctly | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | large as in "large number of blowjobs" not as in "large number of private jets" | [22:53] |
smickles | I do prefer to think in terms of % anyway | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.07**4.5 | [22:56] |
gribble | 1.35589793584 | [22:56] |
mircea_popescu | pirate was a pittance by comparison. | [22:56] |
smickles | heh, i'm up 2500% since june 2011 | [22:57] |
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smickles | or thereabouts | [22:57] |
DeadWeasel | x25 nice | [22:58] |
pizzaman1337 | crazy | [22:58] |
smickles | what's crazy is mpex | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMNgbISmF4I | [23:00] |
DeadWeasel | ;;asks 20 | [23:00] |
gribble | There are currently 25617.646 bitcoins offered at or under 20.0 USD, worth 496507.979567 USD in total. | [23:00] |
smickles | ;;asks 22 | [23:04] |
gribble | There are currently 32872.269 bitcoins offered at or under 22.0 USD, worth 648012.998936 USD in total. | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker h sdice | [23:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.80000000 / 0.80016949 / 0.81000000 (59 shares, 47.21000000 BTC), 7D: 0.44000000 / 0.61008278 / 0.81000000 (1329 shares, 810.80001806 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.49998681 / 0.81000000 (5268 shares, 2633.93051794 BTC) | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btctc sdice | [23:04] |
assbot | Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh? | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btctc s.dice | [23:04] |
assbot | You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | wtf is it called | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | omg why people can't keep to standards | [23:04] |
smickles | btct.co? | [23:04] |
dub | that johnniewalker video is wtf | [23:04] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker btctc gsdpt | [23:05] |
assbot | [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.0072 / 0.0074 / 0.0075 (2385 shares, 17.6 BTC), 7D: 0.0046 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (16823 shares, 106.4 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.01 / 0.0075 (27927 shares, 159.5 BTC) | [23:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00065149 = 1.8567 BTC [-] | [23:05] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker hf sdice | [23:05] |
assbot | Have you got any tobacco? | [23:05] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker bf sdice | [23:05] |
assbot | Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? | [23:05] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto what;'s it called on yoru thing ? | [23:05] |
smickles | !help my ass | [23:06] |
assbot | List of commands: | [23:06] |
assbot | !ticker |
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mircea_popescu | o, stuill no bitfunder ? | [23:06] |
jurov | sry, Ukto had to code MPBPT stuff like deissuing shares/freezing assets | [23:08] |
jurov | when he finishes "nuke the asset" button i'll release him | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | whats mpbpt | [23:09] |
jurov | https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E | [23:10] |
jurov | i suspect i'm quite a headache for him with that monthly revolving | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | o o | [23:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0261 = 0.0522 BTC [+] | [23:14] |
smickles | ;;asks 19 | [23:14] |
gribble | There are currently 7831.5312 bitcoins offered at or under 19.0 USD, worth 148281.124239 USD in total. | [23:14] |
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smickles | ;;calc -19/(.198-1) | [23:17] |
gribble | 23.6907730673 | [23:17] |
smickles | ;;calc -18/(.31-1) | [23:20] |
gribble | 26.0869565217 | [23:20] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.0099 = 0.0792 BTC [+] | [23:21] |
smickles | ;;calc -19/(.17-1) | [23:27] |
gribble | 22.8915662651 | [23:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1249 @ 0.007395 = 9.2364 BTC [-] | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [23:30] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 18.75212, Best ask: 18.79998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04786, Last trade: 18.75215, 24 hour volume: 52294.18354101, 24 hour low: 17.75000, 24 hour high: 18.80000, 24 hour vwap: 18.25176 | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | we're breaking 19 aren't we. | [23:30] |
mod6 | :D | [23:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20039 @ 0.00066591 = 13.3442 BTC [+] | [23:38] |
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jurov | Diablo-D3 since you're getting teh asic, care to buy some X.IDIFF.MAR ? | [23:40] |
Diablo-D3 | nope. | [23:40] |
jurov | why? | [23:40] |
Diablo-D3 | I dont play those games | [23:41] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;asks 18 | [23:46] |
gribble | There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 18.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | [23:46] |
Bugpowder_ | ;;bids 18 | [23:46] |
gribble | There are currently 11782.413 bitcoins demanded at or over 18.0 USD, worth 214619.864681 USD in total. | [23:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 642 @ 0.007395 = 4.7476 BTC [-] | [23:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0074 = 0.296 BTC [-] | [23:54] |
* | DeadWease (~irchon@cpe-74-75-235-219.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [23:55] |
DeadWease | ;;asks 19.2 | [23:56] |
gribble | There are currently 11396.816 bitcoins offered at or under 19.2 USD, worth 216605.517169 USD in total. | [23:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006537 = 0.6537 BTC [-] | [23:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00065369 = 7.5501 BTC [-] | [23:58] |
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