Forum logs for 28 Feb 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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mircea_popescu	cypherc you know you're like the 5th with that link	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	greenspan_fan you know, being a man.	[00:02]
greenspan_fan	http://imgur.com/XpryV8k	[00:03]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[00:03]
greenspan_fan	sorry I was making that	[00:03]
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greenspan_fan	but "being a man" is totally begging the question	[00:03]
nubbins`	you know that's not a japanese starbucks, yes?	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	of course.	[00:03]
greenspan_fan	yes	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	wtf is untap	[00:03]
greenspan_fan	but it was the only one I could find	[00:03]
greenspan_fan	unfortunately it's korean	[00:03]
nubbins`	some M:TG shit	[00:03]
nubbins`	greenspan_fan: i've actually been in that starbucks	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	lol you're the guy with the beard ?	[00:04]
ThickAsThieves	you tap a card to attack or use its tap ability	[00:04]
nubbins`	it's one of, if not the only, starbucks in the world that doesn't have "STARBUCKS COFFEE" written on the outside	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	greenspan_fan you know how mothers tend to end coversations with "because i say so, that's why!" ?	[00:04]
nubbins`	mp, not anymore ;(	[00:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00086735 = 12.2296 BTC [+] {2}	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	well... that'd be them being a man.	[00:05]
greenspan_fan	mircea_popescu no I don't, see above	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	i know ;/	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck am i going to do here.	[00:05]
greenspan_fan	ass haha	[00:05]
cypherc	sorry havent seen it before	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	cypherc log's your friend :)	[00:05]
nubbins`	it does, however, say SU-TA-BUK-SU KEO-PI	[00:05]
nubbins`	which is admittedly pretty close.	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	keopi ? srsly ?	[00:06]
nubbins`	there's no F or V in korean	[00:06]
greenspan_fan	it seems to me that you're implicitly truncating the process of trying to evaluate the world	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	i am.	[00:06]
greenspan_fan	ok, that I can agree with	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` how to they fuck without vaginas ?	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	greenspan_fan agree with alexander, he invented it.	[00:06]
greenspan_fan	I think they're slanted? that's what my dad said	[00:06]
BingoBoingo	http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/14/02/27/2017249/yes-you-too-can-be-an-evil-network-overlord-with-openbsd	[00:06]
ozbot	Yes, You Too Can Be an Evil Network Overlord With OpenBSD - Slashdot	[00:06]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, by calling it a buigina	[00:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.0050005 = 0.24 BTC [-] {2}	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	o jesus	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	"she's got bulgarians in her buigina"	[00:07]
dexX7	http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1z2xo5/speculation_the_us_government_has_control_of_goxs/ this one is interesting. especially the "hints" like the "9gag"	[00:07]
nubbins`	DVD = dee buee dee	[00:07]
greenspan_fan	mircea_popescu but I'm cutting the knot knowing that it's not the complete solution, but at some point you just have to do things	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	right.	[00:07]
greenspan_fan	so we're in agreement?	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0053 = 0.1007 BTC [+] {2}	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	mebbe so.	[00:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.059 = 0.177 BTC [+]	[00:10]
greenspan_fan	in gratitude for this interesting discussion, I've decided to spread your fame to the r/bitcoin subreddit	[00:10]
greenspan_fan	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z4hie/mt_gox_legendary_land/	[00:10]
ozbot	Mt. Gox, Legendary Land : Bitcoin	[00:10]
greenspan_fan	check the username	[00:10]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake'll be proud	[00:11]
greenspan_fan	haha	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	anyway, enough excitement for one day. catch you all tomorrow!	[00:11]
dexX7	cya	[00:11]
Python	interface unloaded	[00:11]
Tcl	interface unloaded	[00:11]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform gotta love it when the thesaurus is longer than the poem	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: the guy doesnt know they squated it themselves < clearly there's no relation between jesse and the gang.	[08:44]
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mircea_popescu	benkay: dat mpoe < what be you mathing thar ?	[08:45]
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mircea_popescu	ninjashogun: anyone interested in startups here? << ahahaha epic.	[08:48]
mircea_popescu	isn;t this the guy who didn't have the time to either a) get with the program or b) read the indicated article detailing the unsuccessful attempts of the last nitwit who thought he's too good to do what he's told on the grounds of well... he's special ?	[08:48]
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mircea_popescu	diametric: the latest trend is that Mark is under a gag order << you happen to be familiar with the trials and tribulations of the public opinion during any of the large eastern european ponzi collapses ?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	like the russki MMM, or romania's caritas (or later fni), or albania's rebellion of 1997 ?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	the20year2 what of me ?	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	gee whiz, look at all the people i want to talk to, and i have barely just woken up.	[08:56]
Apocalyptic	like the russki MMM, or romania's caritas (or later fni), or albania's rebellion of 1997 ? // we had this BMG Invest in Slovakia	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	a so you did, yea.	[08:57]
mircea_popescu	generally the objects of the abject populace's fixations end up quite... jesus-ied.	[08:57]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo midnightmagic is an old time miner with a very naive set of strongly held notions.	[08:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.021399 = 0.214 BTC [+]	[08:58]
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MagicalFag	just got a $a: ban on ##mtgox-chat, such fun	[08:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8574 @ 0.00086337 = 7.4025 BTC [-]	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	lmao who the fuck bothers banning people on deadman's chat	[08:59]
KRS-One	.bait	[08:59]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/7b62966269d851196c7a3d0d16edf507/tumblr_n0y1ksjL6n1r1rxrbo1_500.png	[09:00]
KRS-One	.bait	[09:00]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/a8861d68fe4bd21af374b91ba093a890/tumblr_n0y1nhj33q1r1rxrbo1_1280.png	[09:00]
KRS-One	.bait	[09:00]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/7fd4a56fa8f3fa63ec7831a41ea1243b/tumblr_mzh2539PQd1sltft3o1_1280.jpg	[09:00]
KRS-One	fap fap..nite.	[09:00]
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mircea_popescu	you seriously jack off to that stuff ?!	[09:01]
KRS-One	Sure..Lets talk about your love life now.	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	but... it's a woman in a bra o.O	[09:01]
KRS-One	=)	[09:02]
KRS-One	haha	[09:02]
KRS-One	I go to the strip club once a week. You would be suprised what you can get there being a regular.	[09:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00489899 = 0.3527 BTC [+]	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	i used to own a few. why'd i be surprised ?!	[09:02]
KRS-One	I get out quite often when I'm not working as much too.. I like the bachelor's life.	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	uh.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	you know that's possibly the least efficient way to buy sex, do you	[09:03]
KRS-One	Not trying to suprise you, I don't know much about you.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	few do.	[09:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10501 BTC [-]	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	decimation: So apparently MP thinks the whole thing was an insider scam run mostly be Vessenes. << if by "thing" you mean "Bitcoin Foundation", then yes.	[09:04]
KRS-One	Its getting late here. Have a great day-	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	laters.	[09:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00472009 = 0.2124 BTC [-] {3}	[09:07]
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mircea_popescu	o look at that, Luke-Jr needs to learn to listen to mp.	[09:08]
Luke-Jr	why?	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	because you'd still have 70% of your savings, that's why.	[09:09]
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Luke-Jr	I didn't know you had access to MtGox's code	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	there's a lot of things you didn't know. but the fact that i said mtgox is going down, you knew.	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	next time, listen. it's not like it's coming out of my pocket if you don't, you know ?	[09:10]
Luke-Jr	oh, so I'm supposed to just believe everything you say but can't/won't provide evidence for?	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	you're supposed to listen to it. there's a fucking difference.	[09:11]
Luke-Jr	if I knew it, then I must have listened to you say it.	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	notrly.	[09:12]
Luke-Jr	and thought you were full of crap since you couldn't substantiate it	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	yeah well, see, that's a broken implication there.	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	or two. however you count.	[09:12]
Luke-Jr	mircea_popescu: did you steal the bitcoins?	[09:13]
Apocalyptic	heh	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	if we had the luxury of discarding anything of reality that doesn't conveniently fit with our theoreitcal system, we wouldn't for instance be stuckl with quantum mechanics.	[09:13]
Luke-Jr	because right now, it sounds like you're implicitly confessing	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	newtonian physics'd have been just fine,	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr no, it just sounds like you still have issues listening.	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	i get that you're very emotionally invested in this "master of all i survey" nonsense, but that's not how reality works.	[09:14]
Luke-Jr	the only way to know MtGox was going down like this, is if you had evidence, or you were behind it	[09:14]
Luke-Jr	and you clearly did not have evidence	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	because why.	[09:14]
Apocalyptic	having evidence is different from diclosing it	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	because i live in Luke-Jr world, where if Luke-Jr asks i am forced to comply ?	[09:14]
Luke-Jr	Apocalyptic: yes, but mircea_popescu is generally clueless too	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	i guess 30% of your savings is too much for you huh.	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	aite, carry on.	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is foolish to consider diddled cpus without having a picture of the actual possibilities in mind. <<< now how does this follow ?!	[09:16]
Luke-Jr	mircea_popescu: just because you're right for once in your life, does not mean you will be right ever again	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	Luke-Jr apparently your one-bit counter is well smashed.	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	add some overflow control there.	[09:17]
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Apocalyptic	reading some article about this BMG ponzi	[09:19]
Apocalyptic	"Naivety multiplied by greed made the existence of such investment schemes possible in Slovakia" // like it's any different in any other ponzi	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	well... it just feels different each time.	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	people have this amazing facility, guy goes out with girl, its their first time, it feels like the first time. kids have been fucking for a while now, it's anything but novel in any sense.	[09:20]
Apocalyptic	maybe, it certainly fundamentally isn't though	[09:20]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[09:20]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless...	[09:20]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.04506296 = 0.3605 BTC [-] {4}	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	and then she gets pregnant/catches the clap/gets dumped and her mom is like lolz and she's like "o mom, just because you were right ONCE IN YOUR LYFF!!!	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	doesn't mean you'll ever be right ever again ever eleventy!"	[09:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.10487564 = 0.3146 BTC [+]	[09:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10487564 BTC [+]	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo : perhaps a good alternative is to buy a chinese and a usg and use them in paralel.	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	they can only do that which they agree on.	[09:23]
chetty	lol great recipe for any government	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin how much did you have on gox ? if its not sikrit.	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	so far this is starting to feel like pirate all over again. in may "but mp! how can you irresponsibly let the pr chick say mean things about this important biznis for bitcoin, we know shit. we're twelve after all!"	[09:26]
mircea_popescu	then in oct "well... we're out of the game nao. was nice being part of it all blablabla"	[09:26]
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mircea_popescu	dignork i use local logs for that purpose. log website only does daybased, and i suppose global search may be a little cpu intensive as a publicly exposed service.	[09:27]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell greenspan_fan i actually shot the last psych guy an email. figured he'd prolly like to know :p	[09:37]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[09:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00086085 = 19.6704 BTC [-] {2}	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	benkay re the assass feed : trilema has a 15 minute rss delay built in for that very reason. maybe you should implement something like it.	[09:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60000001 BTC [-]	[09:40]
mircea_popescu	i mostly use it when i manage to typo in one of my booklet length titles.	[09:40]
mircea_popescu	bloctoc_ not really.	[09:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00085872 = 13.7825 BTC [-]	[09:44]
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mircea_popescu	"When using only an HD wallet design, you can regenerate the wallet (and all of the addresses) at any time using a seed which can be presented as a mnemonic string of words, without reducing the amount of entrophy like brain wallets do."	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	now how the hell does this work, entropy cheese ?	[09:45]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, btw I always wondered why the polimedia servers were in the US	[09:46]
mircea_popescu	where are you /	[09:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00086337 = 8.2452 BTC [+] {2}	[09:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15581 @ 0.00086626 = 13.4972 BTC [+] {4}	[09:50]
Apocalyptic	Switzerland	[09:50]
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mircea_popescu	prolly routes you faster that way.	[09:52]
mircea_popescu	"There shouldn't be "insiders" in #Bitcoin - that's kinda the point of Bitcoin."	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	dude how is it that everyone takes it for granted they personally know what "the point of Bitcoin" is	[09:54]
mircea_popescu	for crying out loud already.	[09:54]
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mircea_popescu	"i shouldn't still be a virgin, kinda the point of bitcoin!!1"	[09:54]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 217 @ 0.0055 = 1.1935 BTC	[09:54]
chetty	"i shouldn't still be a virgin, kinda the point of bitcoin!! <<<< it isn't?????	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:59]
mircea_popescu	i guess it has resolved a lot of financial and mental hymens	[09:59]
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benkay`	http://ultra-coin.com/index.php/homes/item/8-bitcoin-2-0-aka-ultra-coin-bitcoin-s-derivative-layer-that-allows-the-virtual-to-control-real-things-featured	[10:00]
ozbot	Reggie Middleton's UltraCoin - Bitcoin 2.0, aka Ultra Coin: Bitcoin's Derivative Layer That Allows T	[10:00]
benkay`	http://bitblu.com/	[10:01]
ozbot	Bitblu - crypto investment management	[10:01]
benkay`	"Crypto-currency investment is hard..."	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	who's running it ?	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	i don't mean the newest scamcoin, i get it, Reggie Middleton is a random noob who figures that he's special and doesn't need to first spend his six months reading here.	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	i mean the blu thing	[10:03]
benkay`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289683.0	[10:03]
ozbot	Bitblu is recruiting our co-founder CTO	[10:03]
mircea_popescu	lol nm	[10:04]
benkay`	bitcointalk has a search bar, mircea_popescu	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	"Great job on the Bitblu website. It looks awesome, even in beta!! Can't wait to try it out "	[10:04]
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mircea_popescu	lol all this crap.	[10:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00575 = 0.4083 BTC [+]	[10:05]
benkay`	wow dealco is still around?	[10:05]
mircea_popescu	why wouldn't it be ?	[10:06]
mircea_popescu	scams don't go away anymore, they just age and reemerge, goat style.	[10:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02199998 = 0.132 BTC [+]	[10:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00086541 = 4.3305 BTC [-] {3}	[10:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.10487562 = 0.3146 BTC [-]	[10:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16277 @ 0.00085984 = 13.9956 BTC [-]	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	what is everyone's favourite bitcoin charting service these days ?	[10:13]
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dexX7	http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd i guess	[10:14]
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kakobrekla	rtbtc	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	aha	[10:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	bitcoincharts seems to have finally croaked	[10:19]
benkay`	hey everyone did you know that real companies are built on professionally curated data feeds?	[10:19]
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benkay`	kinda hard to believe, but true.	[10:19]
benkay`	WTF BITCOIN	[10:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00487998 = 0.976 BTC [-] {5}	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	derp.	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	it's only 2014, what's the rush.	[10:23]
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anddam	hello	[10:23]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell duffer1 hey, you have a compatriot here : anddam	[10:24]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[10:24]
anddam	will keep that in mind	[10:24]
anddam	actually there are a few on btctalk but the tone of threads is childish more often than not	[10:24]
benkay`	anddam you troll for money?	[10:24]
mircea_popescu	where was that link to that post of duffy's	[10:25]
anddam	benkay`: troll as in fishing?	[10:25]
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mircea_popescu	anddam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353439.msg3783469#msg3783469	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	there you go	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	"Load failed, retry after 5 seconds. Probably Reason BitcoinWisdom is temporary down Domain is not bitcoinwisdom.com Network issue"	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	i am guess javascript issue ?	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	http://blockchain.info/charts/market-price << this is lulzy in its looks lol	[10:27]
ozbot	Bitcoin Market Price (USD)	[10:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00086718 = 12.1405 BTC [+]	[10:28]
davout	does anyone know about some spreadhseet software that uses decimals instead of floats?	[10:28]
davout	ie. that can count	[10:28]
FabianB	btcoincharts is probably the only one that works without js	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcoinity.org/markets?theme=light seems fine.	[10:28]
ozbot	bitcoinity.org/markets	[10:28]
mircea_popescu	davout wasn't open office settable to use fixed point ?	[10:28]
benkay`	if you look sideways at the TATINVESTMENTS logo you can see a WTF	[10:28]
davout	i'm mildly satisfied with my accounting delta being -0,000000000000206057393370429	[10:28]
davout	mircea_popescu: thanks! i'll have a look	[10:29]
anddam	davout: I don't but is rounding error with floats that important?	[10:29]
davout	anddam: accounting is right or it isn't, it can't be sort-of right	[10:29]
benkay`	i will come harp at you over rounding errors of less than a satoshi anddam	[10:29]
benkay`	ask mircea_popescu	[10:30]
anddam	davout: when you use floating point arithmetic it can	[10:30]
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davout	anddam: "does anyone know about some spreadhseet software that uses decimals instead of floats?" <<< hence the question :D	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	i suppose the concept here is that math will have to suit the task, not the othjer way around	[10:30]
davout	anddam: what's to tell me it doesn't compound in weird ways ?	[10:31]
anddam	well, math would be exact, but when you're using a computer you're using an approximation	[10:31]
davout	anddam: except when you're using decimals	[10:31]
anddam	math is ideal, at least the one that was taught to me	[10:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00086811 = 10.6778 BTC [+]	[10:32]
davout	anyway i'll look into OO	[10:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.09837502 = 3.935 BTC [-] {8}	[10:33]
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benkay`	anddam: bitcoin is also ideal, and calls for ideal accounting.	[10:33]
benkay`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.msg3738626#msg3738626	[10:34]
ozbot	This is the story of your loss.	[10:34]
benkay`	what a twizt!	[10:34]
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mircea_popescu	http://dc-charts.com/chart_btc.php << best so far imo	[10:35]
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mircea_popescu	course, it seems mtgox bound	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	no nm, it isn't	[10:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]	[10:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]	[10:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1291 @ 0.00459637 = 5.9339 BTC [-] {25}	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	so i'm hammering out the mpoe announcement for this month.	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	word of warning to the news people following : it's gonna be pretty massive.	[10:47]
Apocalyptic	massive sounds good	[10:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00450006 = 1.8 BTC [-] {9}	[10:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00450006 = 1.125 BTC [-] {6}	[10:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.0390015 = 0.975 BTC [-] {3}	[10:54]
HeySteve2	mircea_popescu, please private me regarding the news if I don't respond here	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	you know it will be soon after midnight gmt.	[10:57]
HeySteve2	ok I will look for it then	[10:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [-]	[10:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-]	[11:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 238 @ 0.00469412 = 1.1172 BTC [+] {6}	[11:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 232 @ 0.0047 = 1.0904 BTC [+]	[11:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.09084863 = 2.998 BTC [-] {5}	[11:04]
davout	mircea_popescu: delicious EXERCISE?	[11:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00440003 = 0.286 BTC [-] {6}	[11:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00086828 = 10.8535 BTC [+] {2}	[11:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00086706 = 22.9337 BTC [-] {2}	[11:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00420003 = 0.84 BTC [-] {5}	[11:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00418413 = 0.6485 BTC [-] {4}	[11:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6359998 = 1.272 BTC [+]	[11:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00411001 = 0.2178 BTC [-]	[11:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 474 @ 0.00410377 = 1.9452 BTC [-] {8}	[11:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 388 @ 0.00413057 = 1.6027 BTC [+] {7}	[11:21]
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MisterE	shit, btc-e is down	[11:26]
MisterE	says maintenance...	[11:27]
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wao-ender	and ddos was yday on their twitter	[11:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00414999 = 0.1245 BTC [+] {2}	[11:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00415 = 0.2449 BTC [+] {2}	[11:37]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7690 @ 0.00086438 = 6.6471 BTC [-]	[11:39]
Apocalyptic	https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/439333233013309440	[11:39]
ozbot	Twitter / WSJ: Breaking: Mt. Gox has filed ...	[11:39]
kakobrekla	dont tell me you are john kenney :D	[11:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.08999997 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}	[11:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08999998 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}	[11:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 90 @ 0.0055 = 0.495 BTC	[11:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09497999 = 0.19 BTC [+]	[11:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00086813 = 3.3857 BTC [+]	[11:44]
Apocalyptic	bitcoins just got ignored	[11:48]
Apocalyptic	total insanity	[11:48]
Apocalyptic	bye bye btc claims	[11:48]
Apocalyptic	hum that could set a precedent about btc liabilities during liquidations	[11:48]
dexX7	what's the context? was there any statement about a potential fiat bailout?	[11:49]
jurov	Apocalyptic: there isn't any other way	[11:49]
Apocalyptic	jurov, isn't there ?	[11:50]
jurov	where would they get bitcoins to resolve liabilities otherwise?	[11:50]
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Apocalyptic	they wouldn't need to get them, just price them in the liability sheets	[11:52]
jurov	that has potential to create a mess	[11:54]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic pretty much already established precedent.	[11:54]
Apocalyptic	mircea, wasn't aware, what case are you referring to ?	[11:54]
jurov	if i had usd-only position at time of bankruptcy, why should i share my claim with people who had btc-only positions?	[11:55]
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jurov	and even if, what is the fair btc price here?	[11:55]
wbaw	kakobrekla, I'm John Kenney	[11:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00468997 = 0.1172 BTC [+] {3}	[11:55]
kakobrekla	o look, now you are on two of my screens :)	[11:56]
wbaw	so is the bet closed or what?	[11:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.63599999 = 5.724 BTC [+] {2}	[11:56]
kakobrekla	mods close the bets when it needs to be, you can leave them a message on bitbet comments	[11:56]
wbaw	their lawyer just made an announcement	[11:57]
wbaw	that seems to satisfy the bet?	[11:57]
jurov	yes, put the link into bitbet comment	[11:57]
jurov	and let them do their job	[11:57]
Apocalyptic	and even if, what is the fair btc price here? // hard to find a definitive answer here, but you can still can pick a reasonable one	[11:58]
jurov	that's anything betwen 100 and 500	[11:59]
Apocalyptic	if i had usd-only position at time of bankruptcy // that's kinda irrelevant	[11:59]
wao-ender	lul https://twitter.com/The_K_meister/status/439338278496374784	[12:00]
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jurov	Apocalyptic: why irrelevant? bankruptcy law applies only to fiat, it says nothing about BTC. Attempts to shoehorn BTC in there can be disastrous.	[12:02]
jurov	Listing BTC that are left on the papers and trying to pay them out would be Karpeles goodwill attempt, nothing more.	[12:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.09064826 = 2.6288 BTC [-] {5}	[12:03]
jurov	ianal, though.	[12:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052 = 0.104 BTC [-]	[12:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00605 = 0.121 BTC [+]	[12:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00086813 = 6.5978 BTC [+]	[12:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}	[12:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 297 @ 0.00430679 = 1.2791 BTC [-] {4}	[12:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-]	[12:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23710 @ 0.00086841 = 20.59 BTC [+] {3}	[12:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00606001 = 0.1576 BTC [+]	[12:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00608813 = 0.1583 BTC [+] {4}	[12:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0529 = 0.2116 BTC [+]	[12:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1054 @ 0.00018498 = 0.195 BTC [+]	[12:17]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic for instance the bitcoinica executors, couldn't care less about the btc.	[12:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6175 @ 0.00018631 = 1.1505 BTC [+] {7}	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	anyway, jurov pretty much has it i think.	[12:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1557 @ 0.00018902 = 0.2943 BTC [+] {3}	[12:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5807 @ 0.00019199 = 1.1149 BTC [+] {4}	[12:20]
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wbaw	TOKYO—A lawyer for Mt. Gox announced at a news conference at the Tokyo District Court that the embattled bitcoin exchange was filing for bankruptcy protection and that Mt. Gox had outstanding debt of about ¥6.5 billion ($63.6 million).	[12:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00086393 = 13.3909 BTC [-] {2}	[12:22]
wbaw	... Yes prevails if there is an official announcement of the end of operations	[12:23]
wbaw	bet is still open, what a joke	[12:23]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[12:23]
wbaw	glad i didn't put more on it	[12:24]
jurov	wbaw why such haste?	[12:24]
wbaw	jurov, could you bet on a football match after the result is known?	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	o hey, us attorney general just jumped out of a window.	[12:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00444372 = 4.3815 BTC [+] {3}	[12:25]
wbaw	bookmakers should be fast	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	this is now the revolving window of finance and government.	[12:25]
wbaw	and trustworthy	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	wbaw you know they'll refund bets that are late anyway	[12:25]
wbaw	and not let people bet after the outcome is known	[12:25]
wbaw	1% fee	[12:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 284 @ 0.00428984 = 1.2183 BTC [-] {5}	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	uh what happened to this thing	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	!t h neobee	[12:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00404101 / 0.00509159 / 0.00599998 (47908 shares, 243.92785559 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.0046028 / 0.00600000 (417443 shares, 1921.40502491 BTC), 30D: 0.00261000 / 0.00422003 / 0.00600000 (543824 shares, 2294.95111460 BTC)	[12:26]
wbaw	it's an hour since the announcement	[12:26]
wbaw	that's not haste	[12:27]
wbaw	that's expecting normal service	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	hey did they close it yet ?	[12:29]
wbaw	mt.gox closed days ago	[12:31]
wbaw	the bet hasn't	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	outrageous.	[12:31]
dexX7	it's pending?	[12:32]
dexX7	*closed	[12:33]
dexX7	whatever	[12:33]
wbaw	at least its a warning not to use the site again & stick with reputable bookmakers	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah srsly.	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	there are very many reputable bookmakers in btc outside of bitbet.	[12:34]
wbaw	i'll ask william hill next time	[12:34]
wbaw	he seems ok	[12:34]
wbaw	and he has a shop around the corner from me	[12:34]
wbaw	so stop messing about	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	makes sense.	[12:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.004222 = 0.4433 BTC [-] {3}	[12:36]
dexX7	http://s27.postimg.org/itf060ixv/gox_bankrupt.jpg :D	[12:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00609998 = 0.305 BTC [+]	[12:37]
wbaw	how official does it need to be if their company lawyer announcing it outside a court isn't enough?	[12:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00609999 = 0.5978 BTC [+] {2}	[12:38]
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Duffer1	they're only claiming 64m in liabilities?	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	Duffer1 not really in their interest to include everything.	[12:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-]	[12:39]
Duffer1	lol	[12:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.053 = 0.212 BTC [+]	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	wbaw hey, how does irl betting work ? i've never done it	[12:39]
Duffer1	i know, i'm just shocked at the gall	[12:39]
mircea_popescu	so you go to the shop around the corner and what happens ?	[12:39]
wbaw	mircea_popescu, i walk into a shop, place a bet, get fixed odds & a betting receipt	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	Duffer1 that's basically why people need lawyers for. average joe can't possibly summon all the needed gall for even trivial legal proceedings	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	wbaw ok. and once you win ?	[12:40]
wbaw	then when it wins i claim my payout in cash	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	how ?	[12:40]
Duffer1	ya apparently	[12:40]
wbaw	i go to the shop	[12:40]
wbaw	and they pay out	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	so what if you get caught in traffic ?	[12:40]
wbaw	when the result is known	[12:40]
wbaw	then i get my payout a few minutes later	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	and what if there's a queue ?	[12:41]
wbaw	but, it's walking distance anyway	[12:41]
wbaw	then i go to a shop with more staff	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	but that may be farther away.	[12:41]
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wbaw	there are 5 or 6 within a short walk, but i think william hill is the only one that takes random bets like this	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	and to take this full seinfeld, what if you accidentally get triple-action moisturizer with uva on your ticket and now it's illegible ?	[12:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00609999 = 3.05 BTC [+] {3}	[12:42]
wbaw	mircea_popescu, they keep a record of all the bets	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	aha	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	so you need what, your id ?	[12:42]
wbaw	you've never visited a real bookmaker?	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[12:43]
wbaw	you need the details of the bet	[12:43]
wbaw	time, amount, etc	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	generally all those i've seen are dingy affairs in the poor parts of town,	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	where the cash checking and pond shops are	[12:43]
wbaw	they're huge companies here in the uk	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	huge companies they are everywhere, but still, much in the way mcdonalds is a huge company :	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	a huge company made out of a lot of small, smelly, dingy little outifits.	[12:44]
wbaw	when i pay for a burger at mcdonalds they usually give me one	[12:44]
wbaw	without much fuss	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	yeah but once you'll graduate to restaurants you'll maybe notice you order and then wait	[12:44]
wbaw	same when i pay for a bet at a bookmaker	[12:44]
wbaw	except this one	[12:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10087 @ 0.00086358 = 8.7109 BTC [-]	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	anyway, don't sweat it, i'm sure you'll have it by tomorrow, whatever it is.	[12:45]
wbaw	you really shouldn't still be accepting bets, it's just to take fees for nothing or skew the odds	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	what do you mean for nothing ?	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	someone betting after the event is known seems something.	[12:46]
wbaw	you take a 1% fee from returned bets, says on your site	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile : A talking parrot has helped Indian police crack an intriguing murder mystery and led the cops to arrest the killer.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	go preet go!	[12:47]
wbaw	so, what is an official announcement?	[12:47]
wbaw	for the context of that bet?	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	dood, i'm sure it's good enough, a mod needs to get to it.	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	stop sweatin' it, srsly.	[12:47]
wbaw	because it seems pretty official	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[12:47]
chetty	Seriously whats the rush? Not like you can get interest on BTC	[12:48]
wbaw	should have faster service instead of acting like you're not trying to compete with huge companies with customer support teams	[12:48]
mircea_popescu	i actually am not competing with huge companies for the favours of you.	[12:49]
chetty	hmm what huge company with lots of support team takes btc bets? I might want to check that out	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	if you're curious as to how that goes, see http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/	[12:50]
cazalla	didn't you know bitbet was a scam wbaw?	[12:50]
cazalla	talk to snackman lol	[12:50]
wbaw	i didn't realise before, cazalla	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	bah i can't believe i gave out the wrong link	[12:50]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/ < that.	[12:50]
ozbot	Strategic superiority, a saga pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[12:50]
cazalla	wrong links, slow payouts, what's happening mircea_popescu	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or whate	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	ver they’re called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, they’ve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to obstruct vision, living arrangements all thought through and everything.	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a stra	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	tegic mistake.	[12:51]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla yeah srsly.	[12:51]
wbaw	i'm not saying it's a scam, just you should act a bit faster to protect your customers	[12:52]
wbaw	like your competitors do	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	but you're in no way at risk. if people bet after the fact hey just get charged a small fine	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't impact your bet in any way.	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	and while it'd be ideal to move faster, it's also ideal not to make mistakes, and not to cost an infinity.	[12:52]
wbaw	how do people know it's after the fact if the bet is still open?	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	these are the three ends of the triangle : how much it costs, how secure it is, how fast it goes.	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	every business will make a choice as you can't have all three.	[12:53]
cazalla	ask snackman, he knows the answer to that one wbaw	[12:53]
wbaw	you could close betting while you reach a decision	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	wbaw ideally people bet on things they know.	[12:53]
cazalla	wbaw, why not use it to your advantage and bet on some props where the outcome is already known?	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[12:53]
wbaw	cazalla, because i'd be paying 1% for nothing	[12:54]
Apocalyptic	"There was a weakness in the system, and the bitcoins disappeared" << Karpeles live	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	the lyf and tymes.	[12:54]
wbaw	and that's what it's about, taking those 1%s & fuck repeat custom	[12:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086863 = 3.7351 BTC [+]	[12:55]
cazalla	that feel when gox coins are gone http://img.pandawhale.com/87000-Antonio-Banderas-OH-YEAH-gif-c-5cCi.gif	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85mfiVxwC1ru15g3o1_500.jpg	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	there was a weakness in the system	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	her clothes are now gone	[12:55]
Apocalyptic	" Teikoku Data Bank, Japan’s largest and most respected credit-rating agency, in July of last year reviewed the company and gave it a D4, the worst possible rating a company can receive on their scale. One of the reasons for the low rating was the lack of qualified accounting staff at the company." mircea is there any truth to that N	[12:56]
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wbaw	how can you run any business without looking at your competition?	[12:57]
wbaw	and how they do business	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	wbaw how can they ?	[12:58]
wbaw	what do you mean?	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic yeah afaik	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	wbaw how can your williams whoever do business without looking at bitbet.	[12:58]
wbaw	mircea_popescu, they were here first	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	in bitcoin ? i dun think so.	[12:59]
wbaw	and they're the big name, not the new competitor	[12:59]
wbaw	so it's all different because of the currency?	[12:59]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic http://www.tdb.co.jp/tosan/syosai/3889.html if you can read that.	[12:59]
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mircea_popescu	wbaw in a word, yes. especially because bitcoin isn't a currency in this sense.	[12:59]
MisterE	almost got back in to ride is back to 570 but we're going under 550	[13:00]
wbaw	mircea_popescu, this is why you'll never be big like they are	[13:01]
wbaw	it's no different, it's a betting site	[13:01]
MisterE	lol Apocalyptic that's almost as bad as letting the 2 companies with the worst customer satisfaction numbers in the US merge :D	[13:01]
mircea_popescu	wbaw what's the mkt cap of this williams thing ?	[13:01]
Apocalyptic	mircea_popescu, you just linked me an article from today	[13:02]
mircea_popescu	3.24bn mkt cap ?	[13:02]
mircea_popescu	well guess what... i'm not that far off. now what do we do.	[13:02]
wbaw	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/28/william-hill-idUSL6N0LW4P520140228	[13:02]
ozbot	William Hill plans cost cuts to offset new tax regime	[13:02]
wbaw	Revenue rose 18 percent to 1.49 billion pounds of which net retail revenue accounted for 907 million pounds, up 10 percent, and online revenue rose 12 percent to 446 million pounds.	[13:03]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic yeah it's some japanese corp research firm	[13:04]
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Apocalyptic	I thought you were referencing the credit-rating claim	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	wbaw yeh yeh, WMH.L, 3.24bn mkt cap	[13:05]
Duffer1	Max Keiser ‏@maxkeiser 5s	[13:05]
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mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic afaik that's a paid service.	[13:05]
wbaw	they're not even the biggest	[13:05]
wbaw	afaik	[13:05]
Duffer1	following for the lawls	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	wbaw thjat's besides the point. i being already comparably big, your argument fails	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	and anyway, i'd love to keep chattin' but got some stuff to do right nao	[13:06]
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cazalla	wbaw: you should be more given the outcome is known, that will fix your problems	[13:06]
cazalla	bet*	[13:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10771 @ 0.00086393 = 9.3054 BTC [-]	[13:07]
wbaw	cazalla, according to mircea_popescu here that'd mean i just get taxed 1%	[13:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00086863 = 0.7635 BTC [+]	[13:08]
wbaw	and i can't put bets on even those his website says that i can	[13:08]
wbaw	*even though	[13:09]
wbaw	so i'd be getting taxed for their mistake if i bet now, or the betting is corrupt	[13:10]
Mats_cd03	cool story	[13:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0061 = 0.1159 BTC [+]	[13:10]
cazalla	so what are you worried about then	[13:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00448999 = 0.1437 BTC [-]	[13:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00457998 = 0.1649 BTC [+] {4}	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	so a hdd in a raid array failed and has been hotswapped.	[13:43]
mircea_popescu	everything seems fine.	[13:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00086863 = 3.9957 BTC [+]	[13:49]
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Duffer1	hurray for striping	[13:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-]	[13:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [-]	[13:58]
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jurov	i'd be pretty asstight if company owner was personally involved in raid hdd replacements :D	[14:03]
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wbaw	i'm not worried about anything cazalla, just explaining why it's my first & will be my only bet on the site	[14:06]
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wbaw	other gamblers will just go elsewhere quietly	[14:07]
wbaw	it has finally been closed, but speed is important	[14:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00437102 = 0.3715 BTC [-] {2}	[14:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.1141981 = 2.284 BTC [+] {7}	[14:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.114899 = 0.3447 BTC [+]	[14:23]
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ThickAsThieves	uh what happened to this thing /// there's a frenzy over AM solving more blocks than usual (sell Neo! Buy AM!) and the Neo bid book didnt fill much behind the rally	[14:25]
ThickAsThieves	wbaw, how could you possibly expect the diversity of bets at BitBet and immediate resolution on all of them?	[14:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00086843 = 1.2158 BTC [-]	[14:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.117 = 0.234 BTC [+]	[14:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.11999 BTC [+]	[14:31]
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wbaw	not immediate resolution, but closing should be fast	[14:41]
wbaw	responses from customer support shouldn't be so rude & arrogant either	[14:41]
ThickAsThieves	well i just woke up and everything was the way it should be!	[14:41]
ThickAsThieves	wbaw that's one issue you won't win me over on	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	customers are rude and arrogant	[14:42]
wbaw	i think they're in romania though, so no excuse, was the middle of a working day	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	customer service people arent your bitch	[14:42]
wbaw	customers are right	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	no	[14:42]
Duffer1	haahahaa	[14:42]
wbaw	never heard that?	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	they arent	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	not usually	[14:42]
Duffer1	ah that's cute	[14:42]
wbaw	this is why you lack many customers	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	i do just fine	[14:42]
wbaw	including me now	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	have all my lufe	[14:42]
ThickAsThieves	life*	[14:43]
Duffer1	TaT i hear AM added 600th recently, might have something to do with it :P	[14:43]
ThickAsThieves	if you want civil interactions with people, try being a human being	[14:43]
wbaw	other bookmakers don't call me a bitch for giving them money	[14:43]
wbaw	no other bookmaker that has lasted has done that	[14:43]
wbaw	to any customer	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	so	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	even if you are right	[14:44]
wbaw	every business has to serve it's customers or it fails	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	let bitbet run its own business	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	when did you become ceo	[14:44]
wbaw	i will	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	and when did they ask for your opinion	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	and when did your opinion matter?	[14:44]
wbaw	when i became a customer & paid them money	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	no that's when you entered a contract	[14:45]
ThickAsThieves	their only obligation is to fill it	[14:45]
ThickAsThieves	on their terms	[14:45]
ThickAsThieves	which you accepted	[14:45]
wbaw	then again when i remembered never to use it again & recommend against it	[14:45]
ThickAsThieves	dont enter into arrangements with people then complain when they execute them	[14:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0538 = 0.2152 BTC [+] {2}	[14:46]
wbaw	i was complaining about them not executing them	[14:46]
ThickAsThieves	no, you were complaining about HOW they execute them	[14:46]
ThickAsThieves	which you dont get to	[14:46]
wbaw	or being too slow to execute them because they were too busy abusing customers	[14:46]
ThickAsThieves	unless it breaks their contract	[14:47]
ThickAsThieves	does bitbet say it will solve all bets in under X amount of time?	[14:47]
wbaw	every bookmaker closes bets when the event is over	[14:47]
wbaw	every other	[14:48]
wbaw	so i will just use those instead	[14:48]
wbaw	now please stop arguing with former customers	[14:48]
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ThickAsThieves	ok	[14:48]
ThickAsThieves	cya	[14:48]
Duffer1	afaik MP is an owner and not actively involved, but as an owner I'm sure he's more annoyed with delayed bet closing than you	[14:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1645 @ 0.00434981 = 7.1554 BTC [-] {6}	[14:49]
wbaw	i hope he is, he should be	[14:49]
wbaw	doesn't matter to me i can just go elsewhere	[14:50]
Duffer1	bitbet has a competitor?	[14:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00019 = 0.95 BTC [-]	[14:53]
cazalla	william hill apparently	[14:53]
wbaw	search 'gambling' on google	[14:53]
wbaw	there are quite a few	[14:53]
wbaw	betfair?	[14:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1087 @ 0.00018899 = 0.2054 BTC [-] {2}	[14:54]
Duffer1	ah i'm not a gambler, i haven't kept up with the offerings in the space	[14:55]
ThickAsThieves	the best part about these bitbet naysaying interlopers is that it's always for like $50 bets	[14:56]
wbaw	they have lots of big competitors but they think they're different because it's magical internet money so customer service doesn't count	[14:57]
ThickAsThieves	and they demand to be customer that is always right and able to take all business away	[14:57]
ThickAsThieves	wbaw do you even lose anything here?	[14:57]
wbaw	ThickAsThieves, why risk a big bet on your first go with some shady site?	[14:57]
ThickAsThieves	why act like some stange site killed your cat?	[14:57]
wbaw	they know not to come back after that	[14:57]
Duffer1	I am certain that those involved with Bitbet regard Bitcoin as substantially more valuable than fiat	[14:58]
wbaw	i'm used to better service, rather than being insulted by staff	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	youre used to be being manipulated is what you are	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	salesmanship is all you know	[14:59]
ThickAsThieves	not service	[14:59]
wbaw	we will see who's still here in 10 years	[14:59]
ThickAsThieves	surely you wont be	[15:00]
ThickAsThieves	i doubt 10 days	[15:00]
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Duffer1	perhaps you haven't been around long wbaw but if i was a gambler Bitbet would be the only site I'd trust to do what they say, no more no less	[15:01]
wbaw	wtf are you talking about?	[15:01]
Duffer1	everyone else will just tell you what you want to hear right up until they run with your $$	[15:01]
wbaw	you think bitbet are more reliable than betfair?	[15:02]
wbaw	william hills have been around ~50 years	[15:02]
wbaw	and they always pay out	[15:02]
Duffer1	and they accept bitcoin?	[15:02]
wbaw	does that even matter?	[15:03]
jurov	one day the miscalculate the rates on popular bet and go out of business	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	;;google betfair scam	[15:03]
gribble	Betfair Trader Scam - Please circulate - Bet Angel - Betfair sports ...: ; Gambler who called himself the Betfair king conned friends out of ...: ; Betfair Casino - The Tale of Betfair's (1 more message)	[15:03]
jurov	and unlike fiat nobody, is loaning btcs	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	plenty to read!	[15:03]
Duffer1	i see, so when i said earlier "only site" i was refering to only bitcoin betting site	[15:03]
wbaw	yes, they catch scammers on betfair	[15:03]
jurov	nothing like that can happen on bitbet	[15:03]
wbaw	that's what they do	[15:03]
wbaw	it's betting exchange	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	so betfair hosts scammers	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	bitbet does not	[15:03]
wbaw	betfair allows anybody to bet	[15:04]
wbaw	bitbet is just in denial	[15:04]
ThickAsThieves	again, what did you lose here anyway?	[15:04]
Duffer1	denial about what? i'm just curious, i'm not trying to poke you	[15:04]
wbaw	i lost an interesting looking betting site i wanted to give my custom	[15:04]
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ThickAsThieves	so youre just trolling?	[15:05]
wbaw	saying they don't host scammers, denying that bet fixing could be a problem...	[15:05]
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wbaw	no, i got trolled by bitbet	[15:06]
ThickAsThieves	specifically why are you unhappy	[15:06]
wbaw	the customer service response i got to my email yesterday	[15:06]
ThickAsThieves	which caused you what harm?	[15:06]
Duffer1	i was under the impression that bets are moderated by the exchange	[15:06]
Duffer1	I don't see how fixing could occur without collusion by employees	[15:07]
wbaw	because you just said you have no experience gambling	[15:07]
ThickAsThieves	dont lose me	[15:07]
ThickAsThieves	which caused you what harm?	[15:07]
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wbaw	it cost money from my bet, people were betting after mtgox closed	[15:08]
ThickAsThieves	do you know what happens when people bbet after the fact on bitbet?	[15:08]
Duffer1	that does not mean those late bets will be honored	[15:08]
wbaw	they get a 1% tax	[15:08]
ThickAsThieves	no	[15:09]
ThickAsThieves	a 100% tax	[15:09]
ThickAsThieves	they keep it	[15:09]
wbaw	according to ts&cs	[15:09]
wbaw	that's breaking their own terms then	[15:09]
Duffer1	unless they changed it very recently, it's 100%	[15:09]
ThickAsThieves	if your bet confirms after the event took place they lose all money	[15:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25295 @ 0.0008685 = 21.9687 BTC [+] {2}	[15:09]
jurov	ThickAsThieves: no	[15:09]
jurov	it's first closed, then they return bets minus 1%	[15:10]
jurov	then after it's resolved, they eat new bets	[15:10]
Duffer1	i see	[15:10]
ThickAsThieves	ah	[15:10]
ThickAsThieves	so still	[15:10]
ThickAsThieves	wbaw loses nothing	[15:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00450488 = 0.1577 BTC [+]	[15:10]
ThickAsThieves	right?	[15:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-]	[15:10]
jurov	adn even if someone bets while it's still open, but the result happened	[15:10]
wbaw	What if I bet after the bet has been satisfied, but before it is actually closed?	[15:10]
wbaw	Your bet will be refunded, minus BitBet's 1% fee.	[15:10]
jurov	they return -1% too	[15:10]
wbaw	http://bitbet.us/faq/	[15:11]
ozbot	FAQ BitBet	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	so wbaw	[15:11]
Duffer1	if the bets are returned then the payout would be according to resolved weight	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	you are crying over a reality you constructed	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	not one that exists	[15:11]
wbaw	so they screwed somebody	[15:11]
wbaw	either those that bet while the bet was still open, but in fact closed	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16867 @ 0.0008694 = 14.6642 BTC [+] {2}	[15:11]
wbaw	or the people who bet before	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	well wtf	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	you get what you want so you move to another cause?	[15:12]
jurov	wbaw after the result happens, bet is closed implicitly without them having to announce	[15:12]
jurov	it's best defense from scammers	[15:12]
jurov	good idea, don't you think?	[15:12]
wbaw	so why the 1% fee & leaving bets open so late?	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin does not have a way to reject a payment	[15:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3983 @ 0.00016694 = 0.6649 BTC [-] {16}	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	this is th best solution	[15:12]
wbaw	surely the bet still being open is there mistake, so no fee	[15:12]
wbaw	their	[15:13]
Duffer1	not necessarily	[15:13]
ThickAsThieves	why make a bet after the event occurs?	[15:13]
ThickAsThieves	who's scamming who at that point?	[15:13]
wbaw	because they're advertising that you can, ThickAsThieves	[15:13]
ThickAsThieves	but they cant stop payments to bitcoin addresses	[15:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]	[15:13]
ThickAsThieves	nature of the beats	[15:13]
wbaw	they can close the bet on their site	[15:13]
wbaw	faster	[15:13]
Duffer1	humans are perfect	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	hey that's the name for my next album!	[15:14]
jurov	wbaw btc payments can be even hours late, and returning them is overhead for bitbet	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	how fast is fast enough?	[15:14]
wbaw	they can not be so rude to customers too	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	no matter how fast they are, they can't be instant	[15:14]
Duffer1	that's also a feature, not a but :P	[15:14]
Duffer1	bug*	[15:15]
ThickAsThieves	if they can't be instant, why pretend	[15:15]
ThickAsThieves	also, what if the evidence of the bet resolution is debunked? then you complain they closed it too fast?	[15:16]
ThickAsThieves	this is why customers are usually wrong	[15:17]
ThickAsThieves	they dont know wtf they are talking about	[15:17]
ThickAsThieves	and act like insufferable children	[15:17]
ThickAsThieves	you'd be rude too	[15:17]
deadweasel	also, they're not your fucking mommy.	[15:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.09349999 = 0.374 BTC [+]	[15:18]
deadweasel	handle your business by doing due diligence before you place money somewhere. that's all there is to it.	[15:18]
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ThickAsThieves	he didnt lose anything anyway	[15:19]
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ThickAsThieves	thats the ass end of it	[15:19]
ThickAsThieves	where he's an ass, and that's the end of it	[15:19]
deadweasel	indeed. bitbet is an unending font of entertainment	[15:20]
deadweasel	for this, I do love it. also, winning.	[15:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00086954 = 16.3039 BTC [+] {2}	[15:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00450655 = 0.2163 BTC [+] {4}	[15:21]
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ThickAsThieves	the timing of bitbets is really quite spooky	[15:25]
ThickAsThieves	with these diff bets and gox bets	[15:25]
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ThickAsThieves	"I love the sense of entitlement in your generation," she wrote, then continued. "You're welcome for your humility lesson for the year. Don't ever reach out to senior practitioners again and assume their carefully curated list of connections is available to you, just because you want to build your network."	[15:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.00450499 = 1.0767 BTC [-] {2}	[15:29]
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ThickAsThieves	then she gets put through the social media wringer	[15:29]
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libbe	wheres that from thick	[15:29]
ThickAsThieves	and it turns into ""The note I sent to Diana was rude, unwelcoming, unprofessional and wrong ...," she said in her e-mail. "Diana and her generation are the future of this city. I wish her all the best in landing a job in this great town.""	[15:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00086605 = 16.7148 BTC [-] {2}	[15:30]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/27/tech/web/linked-in-cleveland-job-bank/index.html?hpt=hp_c2	[15:30]
ozbot	Nasty LinkedIn rejection goes viral - CNN.com	[15:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00086351 = 3.454 BTC [-] {2}	[15:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09349999 = 0.187 BTC [+] {2}	[15:31]
ThickAsThieves	i guess that's what the media does, it breaks you if you give it weight	[15:31]
ThickAsThieves	some gems from CNN's home page today: She blew off salute to take THIS selfie - World's best prison food? - Men: Your sperm clock is ticking - 'President finally said something' - Kutcher and Kunis engaged? etc	[15:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.606 = 1.212 BTC [-] {2}	[15:34]
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ThickAsThieves	Mark in a suit: http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/28/investing/mt-gox-bankruptcy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2	[15:34]
ThickAsThieves	apparently he's 10 feet tall	[15:34]
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ThickAsThieves	"Mt.Gox learned Monday that 1.75 million bitcoins held by the company and its customers had disappeared"	[15:35]
ThickAsThieves	dafuck?	[15:35]
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libbe	lol... wtf	[15:35]
libbe	1.75 now	[15:35]
libbe	haha	[15:35]
ThickAsThieves	Neo presentation docs: http://www.imhbusiness.com/el/neoevent2014#παρουσιασεισ	[15:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 760 @ 0.00459938 = 3.4955 BTC [+] {5}	[15:39]
Duffer1	1.75m bitcoins gone, only claims 65m in liabilities in bankruptcy app	[15:39]
Duffer1	pure evil	[15:39]
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Duffer1	lol they're trying to claim $37 per bitcoin	[15:41]
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BingoBoingo	Wow	[15:42]
ThickAsThieves	is the filing public somewhere?	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00086346 = 7.9438 BTC [-]	[15:43]
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Duffer1	http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-files-bankruptcy-claims-63-6m-debt/	[15:43]
Duffer1	^ where i saw the 65m figure, dunno what their source is	[15:43]
ThickAsThieves	article has big mistake	[15:44]
ThickAsThieves	they filed for Bankruptcy PROTECTION	[15:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20565 @ 0.00086367 = 17.7614 BTC [+]	[15:45]
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ThickAsThieves	where did this extra million bitcoins come into play?	[15:45]
ThickAsThieves	wtf CNN	[15:45]
bitcoinpete	howdy	[15:45]
ThickAsThieves	hey Pete	[15:46]
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bitcoinpete	catching up on the day's logs… twitter is just jammed with gox brain damage. can't take it	[15:47]
kakobrekla	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTEm-EnF5A	[15:47]
ThickAsThieves	thx kako	[15:48]
kakobrekla	at least its not a fukken nikki minaj	[15:48]
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ThickAsThieves	mark has like a perpetual mona lisa smile	[15:49]
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bitcoinpete	mircea_popescu to Luke-Jr: you're supposed to listen to it. there's a fucking difference. << priceless	[15:50]
ThickAsThieves	Jon Stewart having a laugh over Mt Gox starting as a card exchange	[15:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]	[15:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00086367 = 8.3344 BTC [+]	[15:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09349999 = 0.561 BTC [+] {2}	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0046109 = 0.2536 BTC [+] {2}	[15:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0935 = 0.4675 BTC [+]	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.63160684 = 17.685 BTC [+] {5}	[15:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00485999 = 0.3305 BTC [+] {4}	[15:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63633266 = 1.909 BTC [+] {2}	[15:58]
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bitcoinpete	Looks like my little blog post took a notch out of NeoBee, eh ThickAsThieves	[16:01]
bitcoinpete	I wonder what I could've done to something like CFIG or 7C	[16:01]
ThickAsThieves	you be trollin	[16:02]
bitcoinpete	Truly. I know no one reads my blog	[16:02]
ThickAsThieves	you could actually do plenty damage to CFIG if you tried	[16:03]
ThickAsThieves	imo	[16:03]
bitcoinpete	No doubt	[16:03]
BingoBoingo	bitcoinpete: Correction, only people who matter read your blog	[16:03]
bitcoinpete	BingoBoingo: but I didn't even post it on reddit!	[16:04]
BingoBoingo	bitcoinpete: You posted to this chan though	[16:04]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.bitcoinsecurity.org/2014/01/20/mapping-bitcoin-addresses-to-ips-hard-but-possible/	[16:05]
ozbot	Mapping Bitcoin Addresses to IPs: Hard, but possible \| Bitcoin Security	[16:05]
bitcoinpete	So I did, so I did.	[16:05]
BingoBoingo	bitcoinpete: Reddit has a poor ratio of eyes to eyes that matter	[16:06]
bitcoinpete	ThickAsThieves: Time to start sending coins to MPEx from SBUx	[16:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.11705 = 0.2341 BTC [-] {2}	[16:06]
ThickAsThieves	I thought SEC arrested MPEx and closed the Bitcoin?	[16:07]
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bitcoinpete	BingoBoingo: Much higher here, it seems	[16:07]
bitcoinpete	ThickAsThieves: Did you read that in the almanac?	[16:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00086367 = 5.0525 BTC [+]	[16:08]
ThickAsThieves	The Forumers Almanac	[16:09]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[16:16]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 \| Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 558.69, vol: 18248.76543402 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 541.96, vol: 12559.69095 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 557.0, vol: 12295.19418405 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 582.1, vol: 65.15586648 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 554.88, vol: 7185.97300000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 553.591064627	[16:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12442 @ 0.00086762 = 10.7949 BTC [+] {2}	[16:24]
ThickAsThieves	hmm so does option bot problem fix itself now that gox volume is 0?	[16:25]
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BingoBoingo	ThickAsThieves: I'm guessing that is going to be in the MPEx announcement	[16:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15163 @ 0.00086963 = 13.1862 BTC [+] {2}	[16:28]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/28/gullible_hipsters_drive_beard_transpant_craze/	[16:32]
ThickAsThieves	"A lot of them tend to be in their 20s and 30s, they tend to be hip New Yorkers definitely with an eye for aesthetic detail – they may work in the visual arts or performing arts."	[16:32]
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jurov	is pic of mr. gay-debauchery in there somewhere, too?	[16:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-]	[16:37]
bitcoinpete	too bad the register can't spell "transpLant"	[16:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0935 = 0.561 BTC [+]	[16:38]
bitcoinpete	And converting to Orthodox Judaism would be far more cost-effective.	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62459 @ 0.00086446 = 53.9933 BTC [-] {4}	[16:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [+]	[16:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]	[16:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086425 = 11.3217 BTC [-] {2}	[16:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6999 @ 0.00086656 = 6.0651 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0543 = 0.543 BTC [+]	[16:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60066666 = 1.802 BTC [-] {2}	[16:57]
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BingoBoingo	The Crimea 2 Electric Boogaloo bet has been accepted http://bitbet.us/bet/769/crimea-2-electric-boogaloo/	[17:01]
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jurov	BingoBoingo: I don't get the boogaloo reference	[17:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.55879266 = 14.5286 BTC [-] {14}	[17:15]
TomServo	;;ud electric boogaloo	[17:15]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=electric%20boogaloo \| Electric Boogaloo can be appended to the name of a movie to indicate a sequel. This construction is somewhat dismissive of the original work and/or...	[17:15]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: electric boogaloo	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	;;ud Electric Boogaloo	[17:15]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=electric%20boogaloo \| Electric Boogaloo can be appended to the name of a movie to indicate a sequel. This construction is somewhat dismissive of the original work and/or...	[17:15]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: electric boogaloo	[17:15]
*	TomServo shrugs	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	bah	[17:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]	[17:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09499898 = 0.19 BTC [+] {2}	[17:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.536575 = 2.1463 BTC [-] {3}	[17:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16833 @ 0.00086734 = 14.5999 BTC [+] {2}	[17:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0048 = 0.48 BTC [-] {3}	[17:23]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUr5UeIsKE	[17:24]
ozbot	Turneja - Kukavica (Arkan - Mine Field Scene) + Eng Subtitles - YouTube	[17:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00485598 = 0.2768 BTC [+] {2}	[17:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0544 = 0.544 BTC [+]	[17:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05201753 = 0.4161 BTC [-] {2}	[17:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00564526 = 1.1291 BTC [-] {10}	[17:39]
chetty	A man who was traveling through Manchester, New Hampshire was stopped and harassed by the TSA after he opted out of going through a body scanner. The official reason for further interrogation, according to the screeners, was “We saw Bitcoin in your bag and need to check.”	[17:39]
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ThickAsThieves	buncha bitcoin buttons	[17:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00556 = 1.112 BTC [-] {5}	[17:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00485548 = 0.4807 BTC [-] {3}	[17:40]
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wao-ender	chetty: url?	[17:40]
chetty	http://www.infowars.com/tsa-detains-libertarian-blogger-after-seeing-bitcoin-in-his-bag/	[17:41]
ozbot	» TSA Detains Libertarian Blogger After ‘Seeing Bitcoin’ In His Bag Alex Jones' Infowars: Ther	[17:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00019129 = 0.3826 BTC [+] {10}	[17:42]
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asciilifeform	2017: 'A man who was traveling through the California Demilitarized Zone airport was stopped and harassed by the ISA after he opted out of going through the MRI scanner. The official reason for further interrogation, according to the screeners, was "We saw 'brainwallet.py' in your CPU cache, and we needed to check." '	[17:43]
benkay`	poor davi	[17:43]
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TomServo	ISA?	[17:44]
benkay`	ugh asciilifeform you gotta put this shit into some fiction	[17:45]
benkay`	publish it somewhere and everything	[17:45]
asciilifeform	chetty: if this story is true, it probably means that a picture of 'casascius coin' is included in the 'evil objects' db.	[17:45]
benkay`	1/3 of the things you write in -assets gives me the willies	[17:45]
asciilifeform	benkay`: seriously? like what	[17:45]
benkay`	good morning assettes!	[17:45]
chetty	yup very likely it is	[17:46]
benkay`	"MRI scanner"	[17:46]
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chetty	I figure its true, to strange to be fiction	[17:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 37 @ 0.00597001 = 0.2209 BTC [-]	[17:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 57 @ 0.00598666 = 0.3412 BTC [+] {2}	[17:48]
asciilifeform	chetty, benkay`: http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v15/n2/full/nrn3665.html	[17:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 75 @ 0.006 = 0.45 BTC [+]	[17:49]
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asciilifeform	benkay`: fiction like this ends up being 'a less funny joke' soon after it is written. see, for example, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html	[17:49]
asciilifeform	benkay`: or the story in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752	[17:50]
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chetty	asciilifeform: ouchy, I guess next stop is full up mind reading	[17:52]
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jurov	researchers already did read passwords from brain. one has to control self to not think about them	[17:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00485598 = 0.4759 BTC [+]	[17:56]
benkay	gotta get out of the states	[17:56]
BingoBoingo	Oh brain steganography is going to be a thing soon	[17:56]
wao-ender	use mechanics!	[17:57]
chetty	multiplication tables making a come back	[17:57]
wao-ender	in my honest, I dont remember some password, only just mechanics of keypresses	[17:57]
chetty	true, without keyboard passwords are a mystery	[17:58]
wao-ender	well, rather find function how to re:create password instead of remember exact value of pw	[17:58]
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ThickAsThieves	lolz: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/28/fortress-investment-group-bought-20-million-of-bitcoin-in-2013/?mod=WSJBlog	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	fortress bought at the top	[18:02]
benkay	well, the 2013 top	[18:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.05182695 = 1.3475 BTC [-] {5}	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[18:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.1169999 = 1.053 BTC [-]	[18:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1169999 = 0.351 BTC [-]	[18:06]
benkay	if they have the smarts to hang on for a year or two, they may make it back	[18:06]
benkay	ah it's unrealized	[18:07]
benkay	at least their smart enough to actually go long	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	can anyone point me to a working LTC chart?	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	got it	[18:08]
ThickAsThieves	forgot bitwiz had it	[18:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]	[18:14]
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drifton	Hello all	[18:17]
Duffer1	hello	[18:18]
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benkay	man, the derp is just as strong on hacker news as bitcointalk.org	[18:20]
benkay	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7318947	[18:20]
TomServo	yep, it's everywhere it seems	[18:21]
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Duffer1	letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/	[18:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00464018 = 0.3805 BTC [-] {4}	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	i'm currently battling the derp at theverge	[18:27]
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benkay	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTEm-EnF5A	[18:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 258 @ 0.0008796 = 0.2269 BTC [+]	[18:27]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.moneyfactory.gov/ is down! I guess USD is done for.	[18:27]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-says-recent-graphics-card-shortage-price-hikes-due-chinese-new-year-litecoin-miners/	[18:28]
ozbot	Chinese New Year, Litecoin to Blame for AMD GPU Shortage, Price Hikes \| Digital Trends	[18:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 228 @ 0.0008798 = 0.2006 BTC [+] {2}	[18:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018999 = 0.19 BTC [+] {2}	[18:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.1169999 = 0.819 BTC [-]	[18:30]
Jere_Jones_	My wife told me that she couldn't get a birthday cake with a bitcoin on it because it would have been copyright infringement and we needed to get written permission from Bitcoin.	[18:30]
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Jere_Jones_	She said that several bakeries told her that same story.	[18:30]
anddam	Jere_Jones_: also the cake would be malleable	[18:30]
Jere_Jones_	She laughed. I laughed. I had balloons on my cake instead.	[18:31]
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asciilifeform	chetty: re: mind reading: 'The two aims of the Party are to conquer the whole surface of the earth and to extinguish once and for all the possibility of independent thought. There are therefore two great problems which the Party is concerned to solve. One is how to discover, against his will, what another human being is thinking, and the other is how to kill several hundred million people in a few seconds witho	[18:31]
asciilifeform	ut giving warning beforehand. In so far as scientific research still continues, this is its subject matter.' (mr. o's '1984')	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	while i cant imagine anyone getting sued over a cake,	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	it's not 100% absurd to be worried about the bitcoin logo	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	if the creator hasnt given up rights to it	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	and properly	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	in the US, you can't even give shit away easily	[18:33]
Jere_Jones	The B with two vertical lines?	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	well a specific depiction of it	[18:33]
TomServo	I could swear I've seen one or two Mickey Mouse cakes... but I could be imagining that.	[18:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 495 @ 0.00517539 = 2.5618 BTC [-] {25}	[18:34]
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ThickAsThieves	the cake place likely got sensitive because of doing too many mickey mouse cakes once	[18:34]
Jere_Jones	If you don't know what a bitcoin is, yeah, I understand the confusion. My wife and I do, though. Hence the hilarity.	[18:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1169999 BTC [-]	[18:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02175686 = 0.6962 BTC [-] {4}	[18:36]
Asa9	my wife has some cake pans of popular kids mascots from the late 90s but no disney ones.	[18:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4672 @ 0.00009682 = 0.4523 BTC [-] {9}	[18:37]
benkay	that feel when a project manager cancels the meeting you scheduled to plan out the next 2 months of work	[18:37]
benkay	raaaaage	[18:37]
benkay	maybe i just need bacon.	[18:37]
ThickAsThieves	planning to plan is the most popular form of planning	[18:39]
chetty	asciilifeform: Its a toss up, '84 or Brave New World - but its pretty much upon us	[18:39]
Asa9	oh what the hell - why not both?!?	[18:40]
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drifton	Anyone have an opinion on the viability of profiting off of exchanging btc for ltc and vis-a-vi? Ive only been going straight btc investment as of late and ltc has me curious. Sorry for the vague question, or if it's considered off topic.	[18:41]
benkay	don't do it drifton	[18:41]
drifton	Yeah?	[18:41]
benkay	you're talking about becoming a professional trader by trading your own book. just don't.	[18:41]
chetty	off topic? is that possible here?	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	drifton, listen to benkay	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	LTC simply does not function in reaction to BTC in any reliable way	[18:43]
drifton	Thanks guys	[18:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00465002 = 0.7905 BTC [+] {6}	[18:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00464201 = 0.4642 BTC [-] {4}	[18:48]
nubbins`	!t m s.mg	[18:48]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0.000149 / 0.00014955 / 0.000154 (180 shares, 0.03 BTC), 7D: 0.000138 / 0.00013973 / 0.000154 (1200 shares, 0.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00010001 / 0.00011631 / 0.000154 (5050 shares, 0.59 BTC)	[18:48]
nubbins`	!t h smg	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00009501 / 9.705E-5 / 0.00010280 (4859 shares, 0.47159003 BTC), 7D: 0.00009501 / 9.954E-5 / 0.00013000 (7926 shares, 0.78898943 BTC), 30D: 0.00009501 / 0.0001088 / 0.00013850 (16446 shares, 1.78939064 BTC)	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [-] {2}	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1960 @ 0.00018999 = 0.3724 BTC [+] {2}	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0046 = 0.3358 BTC [-] {2}	[18:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.095 = 0.76 BTC [+]	[18:50]
anddam	benkay: the bacon concept is interesting	[18:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.0044291 = 0.9965 BTC [-] {6}	[18:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58998899 = 1.18 BTC [+]	[18:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00440002 = 0.132 BTC [-]	[18:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [+]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 7.50000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 18750 satoshi per share	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.05100001 = 1.734 BTC [-] {9}	[19:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share	[19:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 72 @ 0.00597 = 0.4298 BTC [-]	[19:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 69.10503292 BTC to 3`122 shares, 2213486 satoshi per share	[19:12]
benkay	get yer dealco divs and get out day apparently	[19:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05385713 = 0.377 BTC [+] {6}	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.05736678 BTC to 3`122 shares, 65899 satoshi per share	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09550288 = 0.6685 BTC [-] {6}	[19:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09550006 = 0.6685 BTC [-] {3}	[19:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.09199994 = 0.92 BTC [-]	[19:17]
benkay	bacon ipo anddam	[19:18]
benkay	;;later tell anddam bacon ipo	[19:18]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.08043478 = 1.85 BTC [-] {2}	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	bacon futures?	[19:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}	[19:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}	[19:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.13311598 = 4.5259 BTC [-] {2}	[19:23]
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ThickAsThieves	heh WSJ used wordpress	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	uses	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	(at least for the moneybeat area)	[19:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.054 = 0.108 BTC [+]	[19:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.054 = 0.324 BTC [+]	[20:02]
TomServo	BingoBoingo: was not kidding about ##mtgox-statement	[20:03]
TomServo	http://imgur.com/AuXXenx	[20:03]
ozbot	A Discussion on How to Salvage MtGox Customer Account Holdings - Imgur	[20:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [7C] 125 @ 0.00360365 = 0.4505 BTC [-] {11}	[20:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 45 @ 0.07801111 = 3.5105 BTC [+] {4}	[20:04]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13110 @ 0.00086445 = 11.3329 BTC [+] {2}	[20:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-]	[20:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00086759 = 10.1074 BTC [+] {2}	[20:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.13311598 = 1.7305 BTC [-]	[20:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 55 @ 0.00600001 = 0.33 BTC [+] {2}	[20:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 45 @ 0.00600001 = 0.27 BTC [+]	[20:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.081 = 0.243 BTC [+] {2}	[20:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]	[20:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 143 @ 0.00478783 = 0.6847 BTC [+] {5}	[20:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0815 = 0.326 BTC [+] {2}	[20:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13221 @ 0.00086807 = 11.4768 BTC [+]	[20:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC	[20:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00474995 = 0.1235 BTC [-] {3}	[20:22]
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thestringpuller	;;diff	[20:42]
gribble	3.81572379881463E9	[20:42]
thestringpuller	;;estimate	[20:42]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 4890464455.62 based on data since last change \| 4092738869.01 based on data for last three days	[20:42]
thestringpuller	;;bc,stats	[20:42]
gribble	Current Blocks: 288335 \| Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 \| Next Difficulty In: 1968 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 39 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 4890464455.62 \| Estimated Percent Change: 28.1661	[20:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12647 @ 0.00086819 = 10.98 BTC [+] {2}	[20:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[20:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00483117 = 1.4494 BTC [+] {5}	[20:49]
ThickAsThieves	http://vimeo.com/87747572	[20:49]
ozbot	evoorhees on centralization - The Bitcoin Phenomenon on Vimeo	[20:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00488999 = 0.4401 BTC [+] {2}	[20:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]	[20:59]
*	cads2 (~m@24-159-101-83.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.0008694 = 26.5167 BTC [+] {2}	[21:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.13311598 = 2.9286 BTC [-]	[21:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.09999999 = 1.4 BTC [+]	[21:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.1 = 1.7 BTC [+]	[21:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0823125 = 0.6585 BTC [-] {3}	[21:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.08120312 = 1.2992 BTC [-] {5}	[21:06]
the20year2	joy, bankruptcy	[21:09]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11723 @ 0.00087012 = 10.2004 BTC [+] {2}	[21:24]
Duffer1	it's about time	[21:24]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0805 = 0.161 BTC [-]	[21:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.051375 = 0.1028 BTC [+] {2}	[21:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00488995 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {3}	[21:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052 = 0.104 BTC [+] {2}	[21:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00548999 = 0.4666 BTC [+]	[21:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05325 = 0.426 BTC [+] {4}	[21:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05475 = 0.219 BTC [+] {2}	[21:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[21:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05625 = 0.45 BTC [+] {4}	[21:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05828571 = 0.408 BTC [+] {3}	[21:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.09999997 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}	[21:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05942857 = 0.416 BTC [+] {4}	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.11900092 = 0.595 BTC [-] {2}	[21:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0835 = 0.835 BTC [+] {5}	[21:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08575 = 0.343 BTC [+] {2}	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.08683332 = 0.521 BTC [+] {4}	[21:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[21:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08733333 = 0.262 BTC [+] {2}	[21:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[21:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.1 = 1.1 BTC [+]	[21:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.088 = 0.176 BTC [+]	[21:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10637 @ 0.00087026 = 9.257 BTC [+] {3}	[21:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [+]	[22:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.1 = 2.4 BTC [+]	[22:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0046416 = 0.362 BTC [-] {5}	[22:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08999999 = 0.27 BTC [+]	[22:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 66 @ 0.0055 = 0.363 BTC	[22:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05025756 = 0.1508 BTC [-] {3}	[22:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00488993 = 0.1565 BTC [+]	[22:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]	[22:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.13311598 = 3.9935 BTC [-]	[22:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.082 = 0.41 BTC [+]	[22:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00086638 = 16.2013 BTC [-] {2}	[22:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[22:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2070 @ 0.000095 = 0.1967 BTC [-] {3}	[22:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 810 @ 0.000191 = 0.1547 BTC [+]	[22:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08395 = 0.4198 BTC [+]	[22:39]
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nubbins`	freenode still shitting?	[22:44]
nubbins`	couldn't connect via chat.freenode.net	[22:44]
ThickAsThieves	ya a little	[22:47]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: Pretty much Freenode seems constantly under some level of DDoS now	[22:47]
nubbins`	nod	[22:47]
nubbins`	poor admins must be sick of it by now	[22:48]
BingoBoingo	Probably	[22:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02139899 = 0.1498 BTC [-]	[22:51]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0047101 = 0.212 BTC [-] {2}	[22:54]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00086506 = 31.2287 BTC [-]	[22:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0827 = 0.1654 BTC [-]	[23:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00483971 = 0.121 BTC [+]	[23:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.11585504 = 5.7928 BTC [+] {16}	[23:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.1175 = 2.4675 BTC [+]	[23:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0827 = 0.3308 BTC [-]	[23:20]
kakobrekla	at some point we will make #freenode on irc.bitcoin-assets.com	[23:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0827 = 0.1654 BTC [-]	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 642 @ 0.00019618 = 0.1259 BTC [+] {5}	[23:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0834 = 0.417 BTC [+]	[23:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00087019 = 20.754 BTC [+] {2}	[23:36]
Bugpowder	blast from the past! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50206.0	[23:37]
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omen1855	nice read Bugpowder	[23:53]
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omen1855	before my days, but history repeats itself very quickly	[23:53]
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Bugpowder	probably been repeating itself for 2 years without people knowing about it.	[23:53]
Bugpowder	:-P	[23:53]
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