Forum logs for 01 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]	[00:00]
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Guest4752	soo what's new	[00:04]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013	[00:07]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you tihnking of making an irc network ?	[00:08]
agamemnon23	AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij Asa9 asciilifeform assbot Azelphur	[00:08]
agamemnon23	AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij Asa9 asciilifeform assbot Azelphur	[00:08]
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kakobrekla	well, it was more of a joke and id rather not, but if it comes to it, i would.	[00:09]
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kakobrekla	like the 15th standard you know.	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	it's a bitch to run them tho, because ddos.	[00:10]
asciilifeform	did anyone ever step up with decent hosting for whatever?	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	i'd much rather add servers to freenode's pool than split the effort.	[00:10]
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mircea_popescu	then again, that'd require them extracting head from bunghole, which may prove more difficult.	[00:10]
asciilifeform	phuctor is still languishing on a godforsaken EC2	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform not rly any serious btc hoster as of yet	[00:11]
asciilifeform	phuck.	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	it's only been 5 years of btc so...	[00:11]
kakobrekla	well it depends on the size i guess, we have a small alter irc network in slovenia with like 200 people and 3 or so servers, works just fine for years	[00:11]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla and then agency X wants to send 100gbit floods because why not.	[00:11]
jurov	asciilifeform: what about SDF?	[00:11]
jurov	http://sdf.lonestar.org/	[00:11]
ozbot	SDF Public Access UNIX System - Free Shell Account and Shell Access	[00:11]
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asciilifeform	jurov: i thought that was a 'free shell for people learning unix' thing	[00:12]
jurov	no, iirc they offer full paid package	[00:12]
asciilifeform	jurov: for btc?	[00:13]
kakobrekla	im not saying it cant happen but small fishes dont stand out	[00:13]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yeah but once we move assets there it becomes huge fish	[00:13]
jurov	they don't even take linux seriously. don't ask them about btc	[00:13]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: at least when irc.assets.whatever gets ddosed, we'll know that it's for us and not for some lamer on #l33td00dz or whatnot.	[00:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00482998 = 2.415 BTC [-] {3}	[00:14]
kakobrekla	heh	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	this is true.	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	then again...	[00:16]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla keeps being rude and arrogant to customer support ppls	[00:16]
kakobrekla	:(	[00:17]
kakobrekla	they are rude.	[00:17]
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mircea_popescu	that guy was lulzy.	[00:17]
jurov	he's actually lucky kako did not start with slander	[00:18]
kakobrekla	lol	[00:18]
kakobrekla	!b 5	[00:18]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla if you ever get a pet salamander	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	you gotta name it slander	[00:18]
kakobrekla	bah more	[00:18]
kakobrekla	!b 10	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	slander the slender salamander	[00:18]
Diablo-D3	wtf happened now?	[00:18]
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kakobrekla	lol	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	btw what does this do	[00:18]
Jere_Jones	I'd just like to reiterate that I appreciate the advice -assets gave me about trying to buy goxbtc. Thanks folks.	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	!b 65536	[00:19]
kakobrekla	endoftheworld.swf	[00:19]
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mircea_popescu	ahahaha	[00:19]
asciilifeform	!b -1	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	!b $maxint	[00:19]
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jurov	!b NaN	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	!b usagi	[00:19]
jurov	usagi is not positive nor integer	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	you dare slander usagi's integrity ?	[00:20]
asciilifeform	any of you folks own a USB fault injector?	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	what are you, like my sockpuppet ?	[00:20]
asciilifeform	or care to recommend one	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is this some new sexual slang ?	[00:20]
asciilifeform	i wanna see what cardano's usb controller does with malformed frames	[00:21]
asciilifeform	(to trip 'fail deadly' mechanism)	[00:21]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: deposit flush plz	[00:22]
jurov	mircea_popescu: it is already known what happens to mpoe in a hour and half?	[00:22]
jurov	is coinbr likely to survive it? :DDD	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	jurov i can't imagine why coinbr'd suffer.	[00:23]
asciilifeform	do we have some apocalypse scheduled?	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder aite.	[00:23]
Bugpowder	tx tx	[00:23]
asciilifeform	damn i should actually read the logs, shouldn't i	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform just the regularly scheduled mpoe statement	[00:23]
asciilifeform	aha	[00:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00482963 = 0.4443 BTC [-] {4}	[00:23]
jurov	asciilifeform mpoe bot has no info about market rates, so i'm curious how it will autoexercise	[00:23]
bones`	what would it take to be a serious BTC host?	[00:24]
jurov	or if mpoe strts spewing garbage instead	[00:24]
kakobrekla	i think most serial was cloudify or something like that	[00:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00482985 = 0.4347 BTC [+] {2}	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	bones` like a decade of experience in the field, actual connections, actual rented floor in multiple dcs, working relationships with the dc management, the tier 1 bw providers and parts suppliers.	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	also puppet.	[00:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00482999 = 0.3864 BTC [+] {2}	[00:25]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: sounds costly.	[00:26]
bones`	It is	[00:26]
kakobrekla	incloudibly is what i ment	[00:26]
diametric	man I wish I had a laser cutter with a powered Z axis	[00:26]
kakobrekla	http://incloudibly.com/en/cloud	[00:26]
ozbot	DDoS Protected Cloud Hosting, Cloud VPS - Free DDos Protection - Free 7-day Trial :: Incloudibly	[00:26]
bones`	That's what I do by trade, and obviously I'm new here trying to expand my mind a bit	[00:26]
kakobrekla	i think that best you can get now :	[00:26]
asciilifeform	diametric: wonder if something like a powered 'whoopie cushion' would work	[00:26]
bones`	A few others and I have a hosting company but we're only in Philly right now	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah well, it's not as costly as diametric's 3d printer farm	[00:27]
diametric	asciilifeform: that doesn't speak precision to me	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	Bones_ so how many cages you run ?	[00:27]
bones`	Two, we're still small and boostrapped	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhltqAaIUAAYOA_.png:large << check out this thing.	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	all the cultures the us "invaded" have actually successfuly invaded the us.	[00:27]
bones`	Also bootstrapped	[00:28]
asciilifeform	diametric: hydraulic piston?	[00:28]
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diametric	asciilifeform: well my Z is just leadscrews right now manually driven.. really crappy quality at that. I'd be better off just buying a new better laser	[00:29]
mircea_popescu	bones` aha.	[00:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00483 = 0.1739 BTC [+]	[00:29]
asciilifeform	diametric: my unit has z-axis with screws and belt. all one would have to do there is add a stepper with roller to turn the belt.	[00:29]
diametric	asciilifeform: i'd be skeptical those screws are very accurate	[00:30]
diametric	err accurate is not the word I meant	[00:30]
diametric	I mean, smooth	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	what are they made of ?	[00:30]
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asciilifeform	diametric: you don't need much accuracy if you fix a photocell to the platform, to measure power (since whole point of z-axis is to focus the beam ideally)	[00:31]
diametric	something cheap I'm sure, the leadscrews in mine are really, really crappy.	[00:31]
diametric	asciilifeform: yeah	[00:31]
asciilifeform	so have the beam return to the measuring cell periodically	[00:31]
asciilifeform	(whenever z is to move)	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is such a soviet.	[00:33]
asciilifeform	eh why	[00:33]
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mircea_popescu	"eh, you don't need working parts, just add feedback"	[00:33]
diametric	haha	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	"it'll sort itself out"	[00:33]
asciilifeform	so long as it converges, why the hell not.	[00:34]
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mircea_popescu	i didn;t say "asciilifeform should be less of a soviet" now did i.	[00:34]
Diablo-D3	holy fucking fuck people	[00:34]
Diablo-D3	everyone shut the fuck up	[00:34]
asciilifeform	(helps if you remember some from differential equations)	[00:34]
Diablo-D3	you all have work to do	[00:34]
Diablo-D3	go do it	[00:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.0048378 = 0.1403 BTC [+]	[00:34]
kakobrekla	did you relaunch DMC 5 yet?	[00:36]
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mircea_popescu	i don't have work to do.	[00:37]
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asciilifeform	diametric: incidentally, you can get a real-time picture of the beam focus using an ordinary usb camera - taking care that it never sits in the sweet spot (smoked ccd)	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	here, productivity aide : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhl-Y9UCYAAht1A.png:large	[00:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00086619 = 11.3904 BTC [-] {3}	[00:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08025255 = 0.321 BTC [-] {3}	[00:41]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: flushed yet? Gotta run shortly.	[00:42]
mircea_popescu	prolly be a little.	[00:42]
Bugpowder	ok	[00:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.09028588 = 0.632 BTC [-] {3}	[00:43]
Bugpowder	Will check back in an hour	[00:43]
Bugpowder	l8r	[00:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.079 = 0.237 BTC [-] {2}	[00:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10107 @ 0.00086422 = 8.7347 BTC [-] {2}	[00:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10293 @ 0.00086174 = 8.8699 BTC [-] {2}	[00:45]
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mircea_popescu	the whole of twitter is made up of experts on the ukraine now.	[00:46]
mircea_popescu	it's a sickening display.	[00:46]
Diablo-D3	can we ban people talking about the ukraine?	[00:46]
Diablo-D3	[05:36:38] did you relaunch DMC 5 yet?	[00:47]
Diablo-D3	a) 5? what happened to the other 3? b) Im no longer interested in DMC.	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile rbs just announced it kinda... misplaced the 100bn the taxpayer provided	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	so i guess another 2-3-500bn is in order.	[00:47]
asciilifeform	usg ought to send me a new passport if the damn thing splits	[00:47]
asciilifeform	(u.s. passports have 'birthplace' field)	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	i'd say it's about 70% settled the crimeea splits off.	[00:49]
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kakobrekla	well,... he did mention ukraine.	[00:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00550025 = 0.198 BTC [+] {2}	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	lol a little much	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/when-private-patrols-pull-the-trigger/Content?oid=3848954	[00:50]
ozbot	When Private Patrols Pull The Trigger \|	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	brandished a lethal prybar and advanced toward the security guard in a threatening manner	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	"Much of the debate has focused on the ethics and effectiveness of bringing more guns and officers to wealthier parts of Oakland."	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	yeah dude, it's totally unethical for rich people to have better shit than poor people.	[00:51]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: phun phact. security detail at the us army lab where i used to work was 100% rentacop	[00:52]
asciilifeform	just like the ones at shopping malls	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	afaik it's pretty much rent a cop everywhere.	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	right, banks, upscale retailers, the works.	[00:52]
asciilifeform	one would imagine that an army base would be guarded by grunts	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	i don't think i know a manhattan hotel that doesn't	[00:52]
asciilifeform	but no.	[00:52]
mircea_popescu	grunts are about as fucking useless as you'd imagine.	[00:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11729364 = 0.3519 BTC [+] {3}	[00:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]	[00:53]
asciilifeform	blue rentacops, with very 'western' chromed six-shooters.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	fucking idiots too.	[00:53]
mircea_popescu	cluj airport, about 15 years ago. previously unsecured at all, because well... originally was secured by army, then those went out, a whole story.	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	airport had no security for like a year	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	eventually the head decided they must hire somebody	[00:54]
asciilifeform	haha - and no one stole it.	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	so they hired this ridiculous company, full of basically idiots	[00:54]
mircea_popescu	they lined up about 40% chicks, and it really looked like phi kappa gamma or some shit	[00:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00471514 = 0.7073 BTC [-] {6}	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	one day i went behind one of these "security agents" and took her gun right out of her holster.	[00:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.079 = 0.474 BTC [-]	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	just like that.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	gave it to the boss next we met.	[00:55]
mircea_popescu	not like she could have fired it anyway, the gun was a .45 and the chick was like 90 lbs	[00:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59999997 = 1.8 BTC [+] {2}	[00:56]
asciilifeform	as i understand, this is routinely done to u.s. cops	[00:56]
asciilifeform	in soviet army, losing your weapon was (theoretically) a capital offense.	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	well romanian army was heavily influenced, so same.	[00:56]
asciilifeform	.45 ACP?	[00:57]
asciilifeform	i thought it only existed on this side of the atlantic	[00:57]
mircea_popescu	iirc it was a ruger	[00:58]
mircea_popescu	very respectable gun, definitely would have sold for more than its "owner", on the open market.	[00:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11739982 = 0.2348 BTC [+] {2}	[00:59]
asciilifeform	phun phact: it is said that modern russia still has a huge stockpile of unused 45acp, shipped during 'lend-lease', along with a multitude of 'tommy gun', never used	[01:00]
asciilifeform	(from same)	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	wouldn't you think they'd have been reclaimed during the 90s ?	[01:00]
asciilifeform	sitting in some 'indiana jones' style warehouse	[01:00]
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asciilifeform	in the '90s, russian market was full of 'reclaimed' military/police hardware of that period, so not much use for 45	[01:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 32.43982214 BTC to 80`674 shares, 40211 satoshi per share	[01:01]
asciilifeform	(reclaimed in the sense of that guard)	[01:01]
mircea_popescu	lemme see if i can find this footage again	[01:01]
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mircea_popescu	seems to have disappeared. anyway.	[01:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08133333 = 0.244 BTC [+] {2}	[01:05]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what was it ?	[01:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11739999 BTC [+]	[01:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6477 @ 0.00086689 = 5.6148 BTC [+]	[01:06]
mircea_popescu	troop of gendarmes, losing weapons on march	[01:07]
mircea_popescu	it was a rare sight	[01:07]
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mircea_popescu	passerbys were like... hey dude... don't you like... need that ?	[01:08]
asciilifeform	1) arrange to 'lose' hardware 2) finder 'finds' 3) profit!1!	[01:09]
asciilifeform	is the traditional formula.	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	nah, these were just dazed kids.	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	was in the fucking central square, broad daylight, 1k people around	[01:10]
asciilifeform	anybody picked it up?	[01:10]
mircea_popescu	well nobody wanted it apparently.	[01:11]
asciilifeform	well, no one is likely to 'want' it before sun down.	[01:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.116 BTC [-]	[01:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11599999 = 0.232 BTC [-]	[01:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]	[01:13]
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mircea_popescu	http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sent-several-hundred-troops-ukraine-us-official-225850494.html	[01:17]
ozbot	Russia sent 'several hundred' troops into Ukraine: US official - Yahoo News	[01:17]
nubbins`	nod	[01:17]
nubbins`	go-time	[01:17]
asciilifeform	from 'recommended' tab in that piece: 'Substitute teacher, 72, arrested for furiously masturbating in high school hallway.'	[01:18]
nubbins`	reports of armed soldiers @ the airports	[01:18]
nubbins`	asciilifeform: is there any other way?!	[01:18]
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mircea_popescu	from the oldies but goldies dept : http://trilema.com/2013/the-state-banking-and-bitcoin/	[01:31]
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mircea_popescu	"Rome days away from bankruptcy. Eternal city warns it will go bust for the first time since it was destroyed by Nero."	[01:40]
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mircea_popescu	let that be a warning to anyone thinking about passing legislation disrespectful of bitcoin :	[01:41]
mircea_popescu	bankruptcy is not only a possibility, but quite a reality.	[01:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0525 = 0.2625 BTC [-]	[01:43]
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BingoBoingo	Rome ==== the Detroit of Europe	[01:45]
nubbins`	i've always kind of felt that organized groups of humans are inherently unstable after you surpass a certain size	[01:45]
mircea_popescu	pretty much. gypstaly and all that.	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` rome worked ok for along time.	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	"Rome won't even have money to canonize two Popes, John-Paul II and John XXIII"	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	imagine poor wojtyla sitting in heaven,	[01:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59999997 = 1.2 BTC [+] {2}	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	"hey, you a saint yet ?" "naw, they can't fucking afford the fumigation bill"	[01:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.081 = 1.215 BTC [-]	[01:54]
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moiety	mew :)	[01:56]
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mircea_popescu	moiety http://i.imgur.com/DWGvT.gif	[01:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00483897 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}	[01:59]
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moiety	thats crazy!	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.004839 = 0.1887 BTC [+]	[02:00]
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mircea_popescu	works on womenz too.	[02:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00484 = 0.3098 BTC [+]	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	if they're cats.	[02:01]
mircea_popescu	and of course, http://i.imgur.com/UaNm6fv.gif	[02:02]
moiety	relevant: http://i.imgur.com/Fhek8DO.png	[02:02]
moiety	awwww!!!!	[02:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00484 = 0.5324 BTC [+]	[02:03]
moiety	this one is fighting back http://i.imgur.com/k1N13cY.gif	[02:03]
BingoBoingo	And it's March!	[02:03]
moiety	Happy March everyone, have some bear biscuits i made yesterday https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/p526x296/1939461_10200749700904440_715359882_n.jpg	[02:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1190 @ 0.00484 = 5.7596 BTC [+]	[02:06]
moiety	its not march for you yet bingo!	[02:06]
jurov	nice	[02:06]
BingoBoingo	moiety: How are you to know I'm not traveling?	[02:07]
moiety	because if you were travelling to my timezone, you shouldve told me	[02:07]
moiety	girl logic. simples	[02:07]
BingoBoingo	moiety: What about the african, ocean, or antarctic parts of the timezone?	[02:08]
jurov	and what about moon timezone?	[02:08]
BingoBoingo	I guess Maybe the Moon is UTC as well, but there's no people there to ask.	[02:09]
kakobrekla	doges know about the moon timezone.	[02:10]
moiety	BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/iWRYZI0.gif	[02:10]
moiety	mircea actually posted that hif ages ago, i saved it because it's my whole being in a gif sadly	[02:10]
moiety	but yeah, hadn't thought about the other bits of the timezone	[02:11]
nubbins`	bulldog clips, handy things	[02:11]
nubbins`	we have a clothesline full of 'em	[02:11]
moiety	as my cats are going to find out nubbins` !	[02:12]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Do doges do time well enough to have that concept?	[02:12]
nubbins`	you're going to clip your cats? :(	[02:13]
moiety	no im kidding	[02:13]
moiety	i couldnt find any clips	[02:13]
nubbins`	D;	[02:13]
nubbins`	GOOD	[02:13]
moiety	im kidding!	[02:13]
kakobrekla	well, the did manage to get fake astronauts suits, so gotta give them some credit.	[02:14]
moiety	btw, what was the name of r3wt's exchange?	[02:14]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Openex.pw	[02:14]
moiety	thanks	[02:15]
moiety	no ne has been daft enough to trade with him have they?	[02:15]
moiety	no one*	[02:15]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Well it was the only place to trade ATC on a website before Apocalyptic did his thing	[02:15]
jurov	$avg	[02:16]
mpexbot	jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.	[02:16]
jurov	;;ticker --market btcavg	[02:16]
gribble	BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 539.89, Best ask: 544.21, Bid-ask spread: 4.32000, Last trade: 540.75, 24 hour volume: 53682.53, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 567.22	[02:16]
jurov	crosses fingers and uses this as input	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	jurov don't do that.	[02:17]
mircea_popescu	wait for ann	[02:18]
jurov	ah mkay	[02:18]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[02:18]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 \| Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.15, vol: 24838.25261283 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 531.2, vol: 12183.12848 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 542.25444, vol: 15293.33238379 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 568.5, vol: 81.45490132 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 551.660382, vol: 7295.14400000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 540.723991296	[02:18]
BingoBoingo	Volume is still deficient in Zeros	[02:19]
moiety	we'll be seeing gox staplers and sellotape dispensers on ebay soon	[02:20]
*	nubbins` raises eyebrow	[02:20]
nubbins`	quick question, mpex signup fees are not distributed as mpoe dividends, correct?	[02:20]
jurov	they are	[02:20]
nubbins`	:o	[02:21]
nubbins`	SOMEBODY GIVE ME A FUCKING COMPUTER	[02:21]
jurov	;;slap nubbins`	[02:21]
*	gribble slaps nubbins` with a battered trout	[02:21]
BingoBoingo	;;lasers nubbins`	[02:22]
gribble	┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ pew! pew! pew!	[02:22]
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moiety	lol! i love gribble	[02:22]
kakobrekla	nubbins` how else would it have been a ponzi	[02:26]
nubbins`	good point	[02:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66495 @ 0.00086856 = 57.7549 BTC [+] {8}	[02:26]
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moiety	why does gox even still have a value for btcusd?	[02:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00087135 = 8.4521 BTC [+]	[02:27]
nubbins`	nostalgia	[02:27]
kakobrekla	cause servers are paid until the end of the month	[02:28]
mircea_popescu	^	[02:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]	[02:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.10808001 = 0.5404 BTC [-] {2}	[02:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.08264585 = 0.8265 BTC [+] {5}	[02:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[02:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08366666 = 0.251 BTC [+] {2}	[02:33]
nubbins`	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10664372/RBS-has-lost-all-the-46bn-pumped-in-by-the-taxpayer.html	[02:34]
moiety	youre kidding	[02:34]
nubbins`	often, yes, but right now i'm just pasting links :D	[02:35]
moiety	lol sorry, just derping aloud	[02:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 48 @ 0.00666667 = 0.32 BTC [+]	[02:35]
moiety	i wonder how they plan to buy natwest now then	[02:36]
moiety	santander were meant to but backed out. RBS picked up the tab but not for all branches. only some across scotland. now we have these stupid card readers and about 30 redirects to get to online banking	[02:37]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` was more like 100bn, and also is in log :D	[02:40]
nubbins`	i actually read it today, don't often click links tho ;(	[02:40]
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nubbins`	but yah, #46bn is like 85-90bn cad	[02:41]
nubbins`	amazing	[02:41]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[02:41]
nubbins`	staggering, even	[02:41]
assbot	STAGGERING COMPANY!	[02:41]
nubbins`	roommates are spitting about how gross it is	[02:43]
kakobrekla	like the shit on the toilet from back in the day?	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[02:43]
nubbins`	hahah	[02:43]
nubbins`	the shitter bought me a bag of potato chips and two cookies as an apology yesterday ;(	[02:44]
kakobrekla	did he say "i smeared it with that, you can now try it out yourself"	[02:44]
nubbins`	no details on the incident were released	[02:44]
moiety	aside from google image search, is there anything that i can search for a picture being wrongly used?	[02:45]
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nubbins`	tineye	[02:45]
nubbins`	(canadian!)	[02:46]
moiety	oh thanks very much :D thats fab	[02:46]
nubbins`	so i dropped my rpm challenge CDs off today at the record store, and they gave me a coupon for 15% off my next purchase!	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	so i guess you need blanks then	[02:48]
nubbins`	i had to buy a spindle of cd-rs. felt really weird.	[02:48]
HeySteve	hmm, any news announcement yet?	[02:49]
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nubbins`	not sure what i'm going to do with the other 48 of them	[02:49]
HeySteve	obamacare is using the doge meme. o tempora o mores! http://blogs.marketwatch.com/health-exchange/2014/02/26/hhs-borrows-doge-meme-to-sell-obamacare-and-elicits-a-few-groans/?mod=MW_home_latest_news&link=sfmw	[02:50]
nubbins`	o discordia!	[02:51]
moiety	no joy with tineye but i will keep checking, thank you nubbins`	[02:51]
asciilifeform	funfun - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-cuba-russia-ship-20140227,0,7642471.story	[02:51]
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moiety	asciilifeform! did you see the molten metal 3D printer robot? and the one that can print a house in 24 hours? 3D printers aren't as good as lasers but they are still cool.	[02:52]
asciilifeform	moiety: sintering machine? old news	[02:53]
asciilifeform	i think diametric has one	[02:53]
nubbins`	so after a quick google search led me to the wikipedia page about discordia, the story behind EFNet's name is suddenly funnier	[02:53]
asciilifeform	(or maybe not - you need inert gas)	[02:53]
Mats_cd03	.bait	[02:54]
ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/cee51a34672b1b88c22de04ca3df30a6/tumblr_mes6ctZd4x1rrqd70o1_1280.jpg	[02:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00484 = 1.3455 BTC [+]	[02:54]
HeySteve	discordia is a dark tower thing isn't it? what's that to do with EFNet?	[02:55]
nubbins`	among other things, it is indeed mentioned in the dark tower	[02:55]
asciilifeform	moiety: sintering printer typically uses the same setup as laser cutter, with a bucket full of powdered Al or whichever metal where the bed would normally go	[02:55]
nubbins`	discordia is the latin name of the greek goddess eris	[02:56]
asciilifeform	you fuze a layer, then spread more powder, and so on, until the piece is complete	[02:56]
nubbins`	who was the goddess of strife, chaos, and discord	[02:56]
moiety	asciilifeform: i was just looking it up. the laarman prototype from earlier in feb?	[02:56]
moiety	http://youtu.be/NFF0QQIQDXE	[02:57]
ozbot	MX3D printing - YouTube	[02:57]
asciilifeform	moiety: the basic concept goes back to the '80s	[02:57]
asciilifeform	none of this is really new.	[02:57]
nubbins`	the lel being that EFNet (eris-free network) got its name after its predecessor network delinked a server called irc.eris.	[02:57]
moiety	jesus 80s?	[02:57]
nubbins`	because eris sucked so bad	[02:57]
nubbins`	and with a name like that, how could it not!	[02:57]
nubbins`	sorry, eris.berkeley.edu	[02:58]
nubbins`	either way	[02:58]
nubbins`	bit of a chuckle	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/	[02:58]
asciilifeform	moiety: the machine pictured in the video is just a tig welder attached to xyz arm, it seems	[02:58]
ozbot	MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	and there it is.	[02:58]
nubbins`	wow.	[02:58]
nubbins`	such div	[02:59]
moiety	it just looks so cool asciilifeform ... it's all exciting to me still lol	[02:59]
mod6	O_O	[02:59]
Duffer1	PR, 2.875 :(	[03:01]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67520 @ 0.0008656 = 58.4453 BTC [-] {6}	[03:03]
nubbins`	:O just finished reading	[03:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183179 @ 0.00084112 = 154.0755 BTC [-] {18}	[03:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11 = 1.65 BTC [+]	[03:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if mpex acct costs 30, how did 'from new accts' add up to 70?	[03:04]
Bugpowder	nice month!	[03:04]
asciilifeform	can i buy 1/3 of an acct?	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it can generate either 30 btc or 20 btc	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	depending on whether people use referrals or not	[03:04]
asciilifeform	ahaha	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	referral = each gets 5 rebate, the referrer and the referred.	[03:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29761 @ 0.00087236 = 25.9623 BTC [+] {3}	[03:05]
nubbins`	1/3 of account has SELL disabled, do not buy	[03:05]
asciilifeform	'instead of office chair, package contained bobcat. A++, would trade again'	[03:05]
nubbins`	heh	[03:06]
Bugpowder	well that's kinda annoying... Someone sold to 75000?	[03:06]
nubbins`	those things are expensive!	[03:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00488995 = 2.445 BTC [+]	[03:06]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: http://xkcd.com/325	[03:06]
nubbins`	lel @ alt ;(	[03:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 696 @ 0.0048934 = 3.4058 BTC [+] {3}	[03:07]
nubbins`	wait, it's friday, isn't it?	[03:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1256 @ 0.00499775 = 6.2772 BTC [+] {5}	[03:08]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/slum-landlords-pocketing-social-assistance-money-for-rent-1.2554226	[03:08]
ozbot	Slum landlords pocketing social assistance money for rent - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News	[03:08]
nubbins`	a slum landlord owns maybe half of the houses on my street	[03:08]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: wait - what are they supposed to pocket as rent ?	[03:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.005 = 0.38 BTC [+] {4}	[03:09]
nubbins`	oh, you!	[03:09]
Duffer1	I mostly specify this as a parting fuck you broadside to the MtGox troop of idiots, who thought that perhaps if they re-do the original MtGox “hack” I may have trouble. It’s cute, I guess, in the sense of a bunch of ducks trying to work together to provoke waves that’ll sink a neighbouring battleship.	[03:09]
nubbins`	i once called this slumlord to inform him that i was getting the city to clean up the apartment's worth of possessions his workers dumped on the sidewalk, on his dime	[03:10]
nubbins`	halfway through the conversation he interrupts me with "what are you telling me for?", followed by a toilet flushing	[03:10]
nubbins`	had a good lel at that after i calmed down	[03:10]
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asciilifeform	'If they're taking in taxpayer dollars to provide accommodations for their tenants, there should be some oversight — especially by government — as to what people are living in.'	[03:11]
asciilifeform	imagine if this actually happened	[03:11]
nubbins`	lel	[03:11]
nubbins`	well the next logical step would be oversight as to what the tenants spend their remaining money on	[03:11]
BingoBoingo	Wow, Bitcoin finally outgrew fiat exchanges	[03:11]
asciilifeform	(see the 'last psychiatrist' piece mp linked to the other day)	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	so basically the canadian government actually wants to run everything or what	[03:11]
nubbins`	and good luck with that	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo not without some trepidation.	[03:12]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, the cbc wants that, but the government doesn't	[03:12]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: This is so much more thrilling than last spring.	[03:12]
nubbins`	(incidentally, this is a provincial, not a federal, thing)	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	it IS always the spring, isn't it.	[03:12]
*	nubbins` thinks	[03:12]
nubbins`	actually, no, it's not	[03:12]
nubbins`	anyway, there's no solution	[03:12]
copumpkin	omg lord master mircea_popescu has decreed that the price be $500	[03:13]
copumpkin	and it will be so	[03:13]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: so dividend gets paid March 3?	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin ;/	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck am i to do	[03:13]
nubbins`	so a house gets bedbugs. the landlord fumigates at great expense. the dirtbags infest the place again. repeat ad infinitum.	[03:13]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Indeed. SHit happend in spring. Then calms during the summer when schoolkids have too much time, a bit of drama happens in the fall, there is a bit of winter buildup, then SPRING	[03:13]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I don't know! just commenting	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	at least mine's platonially solid.	[03:13]
*	copumpkin debates selling his MPOE shares	[03:13]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: 'zyklon-b' ?	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	platonically*	[03:14]
nubbins`	alternately: a house gets bedbugs. the tenants fumigate at great expense. the bedbugs come back from the house next door. repeat ad infinitum.	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` is it expensive to fumigate ?	[03:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0051 = 0.255 BTC [+]	[03:14]
nubbins`	well the problem is most of downtown is row houses, attached on both sides. generally fumigation doesn't do shit	[03:14]
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BingoBoingo	Prolly expensive in Canada, but in canada everything is expensive.	[03:14]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo, everything but the drugs	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	(i've never fumigated anything. oddly enough, bedbugs etc do not exist in romania)	[03:14]
nubbins`	they didn't exist here either until the past couple years	[03:15]
nubbins`	this is a very recent thing	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	welfare helps all bugs and cockroaches across the board	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	not just the bipedal ones.	[03:15]
nubbins`	nod	[03:15]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: would you mind flushing another deposit before my laptop battery dies?	[03:15]
asciilifeform	story goes that they were re-introduced from somewhere in mexico.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[03:15]
nubbins`	the other problem is that welfare tenants generally won't tell the landlord if the house is infested.	[03:15]
nubbins`	the only clues are a succession of stained mattresses and couches left on the sidewalk over a period of several weeks	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` or anyone else anything else, for that matter.	[03:16]
nubbins`	nod	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	i vividly recall this discussion between a veterinarian and a inner city md	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	vet : "well, it's easier to be an md, at least your patients can tell you wtf is wrong"	[03:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 44 @ 0.0055 = 0.242 BTC	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	md : "its much easier to be a vet. animals don't lie"	[03:16]
asciilifeform	20th c. wants to come back! measles, polio...	[03:16]
nubbins`	animals don't just want a prescription for ritalin	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	right.	[03:16]
nubbins`	people don't hide in cat carriers	[03:17]
nubbins`	i'd say it's about even	[03:17]
BingoBoingo	Dogs and crackheads both bite though	[03:17]
nubbins`	there ya go	[03:17]
nubbins`	common ground	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	you mean bitches	[03:17]
BingoBoingo	Nah, bitches behave	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	is behave short for beaver shave ?	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	Ratchets on the other hand	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	Ofc	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	ourse	[03:18]
nubbins`	heh	[03:18]
nubbins`	so loquacious ;p	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	o who wanted to be pinged when this is published	[03:19]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-s-new-freedoms-outrage-manitoba-mp-shelly-glover-1.2555600	[03:20]
ozbot	Vince Li's new freedoms outrage Manitoba MP Shelly Glover - Manitoba - CBC News	[03:20]
nubbins`	^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus	[03:20]
Bugpowder	whoops.. Finally read to the bottom.	[03:20]
asciilifeform	related: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/18/norways_mass_murderer_brievik_threatens_hunger_strike_for_better_video_games.html	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	jhahaha	[03:21]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: HeySteve2 wanted the ping	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	a ty.	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i guess a guy's gotta have goals in life.	[03:21]
nubbins`	y'know, i feel like i'd enjoy nordic prison	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	did he want gta4 or what ?	[03:21]
nubbins`	burn down a church? here's a synthesizer!	[03:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0007963 = 14.1741 BTC [-]	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	$vwap s.mpex	[03:23]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	$vwap s.mpoe	[03:23]
HeySteve	^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus < I would be cranky too if I had to use public transport	[03:23]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00086156 high: 0.00087256 low: 0.00075 volume: 1438116 btc: 1239.0294164 7 day: average: 0.00087156 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.00075 volume: 7049383 btc: 6143.97817607 30 day: average: 0.0008793 high: 0.00096 low: 0.00075 volume: 28915312 btc: 25425.2607003	[03:23]
nubbins`	had to? he coulda flown!	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	tbh, in some places public transport is a delight.	[03:24]
nubbins`	they tried to market the bus here as "your own 40 foot limo", to much derision	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	generally, large uni centers etc.	[03:24]
asciilifeform	'greyhound', for people on the other side of the ocean, is a 'tourist' bus, kitted out like an airplane	[03:25]
nubbins`	generally people don't have to wait in the cold for an hour to get a limo, though	[03:25]
asciilifeform	rather than an ordinary city bus	[03:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0055 = 0.33 BTC	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i spent months going through the eastern us on greyhounds	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	it was very informative.	[03:25]
asciilifeform	most people here take the 'chinese' bus instead, these days	[03:26]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rcd4Yfo0q0	[03:26]
ozbot	jonathan richman - you're crazy for taking the bus - YouTube	[03:26]
asciilifeform	exactly like 'greyhound' but costs 1/3.	[03:26]
nubbins`	^ relevant song, also very informative	[03:26]
moiety	nubbins`: bed bugs a) have nothing to do with the hygiene of a place and b) can hop to the house next door	[03:26]
nubbins`	moiety: that's where my fears come from, yep	[03:26]
moiety	can't** sorry	[03:27]
nubbins`	oh yes they can!	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	of course they can	[03:27]
moiety	not a building they cannot	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	and of course they have to do with the hygiene. what are oyu talking about ?	[03:28]
nubbins`	if you live in a city that looks like this, they most definitely can hop to the house next door: http://imgur.com/1SntHHD	[03:28]
moiety	http://insects.about.com/od/truebugs/a/10-Myths-About-Bed-Bugs.htm	[03:28]
moiety	they like fuckin blood not dirt	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	moiety this may be true, but they do have migration patterns.	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	they're not like blood seeking missiles their entire lives.	[03:29]
moiety	no i can't see them migrating like geese their way door-to-door down a street though	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	(and if they didn't migrate, you'd have difficulty explaining how the fuck they even exist in the americas in the first place)	[03:29]
nubbins`	who said door to door?	[03:29]
nubbins`	i share two walls with neighbours	[03:29]
moiety	sorry i thought thats what you meant when you said fromthe house next door	[03:30]
BingoBoingo	Honestly I am more concerned about ticks when I go outside than bedbugs invading my space. This stuff used generously at points of egress keeps all kinds of small undesirables out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth	[03:30]
moiety	oh christ i didn't realise we were being literal as to entry points. i honestly don't think bedbugs use doors	[03:30]
nubbins`	you don't see ticks here	[03:30]
nubbins`	moiety, they're not tall enough to reach the handle, for starters	[03:31]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: Because you live in an icy wasteland	[03:31]
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moiety	lololol	[03:31]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: shush, it's only icy for like 7 months.	[03:31]
moiety	maybe they could work together	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	lmao bedbug tower	[03:31]
moiety	yes! like the sheep from wallace and gromit	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	spray with tit silicone, put on display	[03:31]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/swiss-arms-classic-green-rifle-ban-to-be-reviewed-by-government-1.2555746	[03:32]
ozbot	Swiss Arms Classic Green rifle ban to be reviewed by government - Politics - CBC News	[03:32]
nubbins`	cbc is actually interesting today	[03:32]
BingoBoingo	I mean I don't trust bedbugs because they fuck by cesarean. Ticks though carry all kinds of nasty diseases and fumigating "The Great Outdoors" is difficult.	[03:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you know real men don't get lyme	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	(tm)	[03:33]
nubbins`	there are actually relatively few things that can kill you here	[03:33]
nubbins`	aside from, y'know, the elements.	[03:33]
moiety	http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/entertainment_shaun_the_sheep/img/1.jpg	[03:33]
moiety	like this ^	[03:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.0008 = 30.84 BTC [+]	[03:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.10800003 = 0.216 BTC [-]	[03:33]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: There's quite a few other nastier diseases than lyme. Lyme just gets the press because pseudo-medicine makes better news.	[03:33]
moiety	my house is to be assessed for something called Legionnaires apparently.	[03:34]
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mircea_popescu	moiety take moar cold showers.	[03:35]
nubbins`	eeee, yipes	[03:35]
nubbins`	there were a few big legionnaires outbreaks in canada the past couple years	[03:36]
nubbins`	something like 2 dozen people in an old folks home died in 2012 i think	[03:36]
moiety	is it very bad? they have to assess rented flats every two years by law my letter says	[03:36]
bitcoinpete	howdy	[03:37]
moiety	hi pete :)	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	moiety it's not that bad. wear something loose.	[03:37]
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bitcoinpete	It's incredibly late here in bruxelles but I thought I'd leave my latest von blooog post for your casual readying enjoyment.	[03:37]
bitcoinpete	http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/patience-en-ville/	[03:37]
ozbot	Patience En Ville \| When Bitcoin Met Pete	[03:37]
bitcoinpete	I'm off to bed, then I'll be in the logs as usual.	[03:38]
bitcoinpete	Cheers and bon soir	[03:38]
moiety	my bathroom is very clean, i will say that	[03:38]
nubbins`	charlie's in the trees, pete's in the logs	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	an' teh poofs are in the pudding	[03:39]
nubbins`	there's a dick surgery song where it's discussed that the details are also in the pudding	[03:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00079865 = 31.7863 BTC [-] {3}	[03:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]	[03:39]
nubbins`	well. "song" is being generous	[03:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38009 @ 0.00077761 = 29.5562 BTC [-] {2}	[03:41]
moiety	BingoBoingo: i decided what to do with my btc domain. im making a scottish item shop. not giving up on my stamping plan though	[03:42]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Solid decision	[03:42]
moiety	you mean it?	[03:43]
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BingoBoingo	moiety: Yeah, much better than a decision where you have to stamp every product and in the process look like Rosie the Riveter. Being Bitcoin's source for Scottish shit sounds like something worth trying.	[03:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114260 @ 0.00075144 = 85.8595 BTC [-] {3}	[03:47]
moiety	lol actually... i hadnt thought of that.. "sorry your order is delayed.. i'm not very fit and i got tired making it"	[03:47]
nubbins`	canned haggis	[03:48]
MisterE	fuck that	[03:48]
moiety	ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww	[03:48]
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MisterE	Shagging sheeps	[03:48]
MisterE	or is that a scouser thing?	[03:49]
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nubbins`	somebody give me the elevator pitch on buttercoin.com	[03:50]
BingoBoingo	moiety: I though we touched on that problem when you presented the plan. Stamping metal with a hammer is tiring work	[03:50]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: Herpitty Derp derp	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i can;t believe it's not margerine.	[03:50]
nubbins`	ty, that works	[03:51]
moiety	i thought it be ok because they were small things BingoBoingo btw there is people opening a dog cafe and a cat cafe in london. edinburgh seems to have none.....	[03:51]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I can't find your key on my keyserver	[03:52]
copumpkin	I'm on a different computer and found I didn't have it in my list	[03:52]
copumpkin	keys.gnupg.net	[03:52]
copumpkin	which should I be searching for?	[03:52]
copumpkin	oh you have the key in the page	[03:54]
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BingoBoingo	I'm rather surprised http://bitbet.us/bet/769/crimea-2-electric-boogaloo/ isn't getting more action yet as it focuses on the most important precedent this recent crimea lulz covers.	[03:56]
moiety	omg i have it all planned out, we could totally do a bar. bingoboingo barman, asciilifeform doing the laser lights, nubbins` sorting pest control, bugpowder green flourescent protein glowsticks, benkay on music and mircea dancing girls!	[03:57]
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moiety	or not	[03:58]
nubbins`	as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid	[03:58]
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BingoBoingo	moiety: Honestly if you want to open a bar the best place to position your business in relation to me is one such that I am a customer.	[03:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0837 = 0.2511 BTC [+] {2}	[03:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05150011 = 0.103 BTC [-]	[03:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]	[03:59]
moiety	BingoBoingo: you're right, you can prop up the bar	[04:00]
moiety	or remove riff raff	[04:00]
BingoBoingo	I could do both.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin it's on my blog	[04:01]
copumpkin	yeah got it :)	[04:01]
moiety	ok, not paying you twice so will pay in alcohol	[04:01]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo maybe people dunno wtf boogaloo is supposed to be	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid << lmao	[04:02]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I though the Internet was strong enough people know electric boogaloo's are sequels.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	your customer service sucs	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	and is arrgorant	[04:02]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I keep getting unrecognized signature even though I'm using the same key I used to sign up :(	[04:03]
copumpkin	says to email you my key but I did that long long ago :P	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin did you ever re-email it as per teh verification last year /	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	?	[04:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11379998 BTC [+]	[04:04]
copumpkin	oh, no	[04:04]
copumpkin	I wasn't paying attention	[04:04]
copumpkin	that was a thing?	[04:04]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Really the point of Ukraine as of now isn't the end political outcome, as far as that bet is concerned. It's determining how overtly "Black Ops" can happen in a white people country before commandos have to have affiliations, because Geneva protocols and conventions and such.	[04:04]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I guess you have no way to contact me or even any knowledge of me having an account :P	[04:04]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCkT4K-hppE	[04:05]
ozbot	Beirut - Nantes - YouTube	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin mpex may be the only entity in bitcoin which has gone two years without sending a single greatly informative and muchly important email blast.	[04:05]
copumpkin	:)	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, lemme dig it for you.	[04:06]
copumpkin	only because you don't have my email!	[04:06]
copumpkin	:P	[04:06]
copumpkin	should I just email you the key again?	[04:06]
nubbins`	just email mine instead	[04:06]
copumpkin	(goes to show how active a user I am)	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[04:06]
copumpkin	nubbins`: lol	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	well technically you could extract some sort of email from gpg keys, but i never bothered to.	[04:07]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: office@polimedia? that's where the old one went	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	yea	[04:07]
nubbins`	'cause, y'know, it'd work or something	[04:07]
BingoBoingo	OMG copumpkin is selling his S.MPOE, sell first!!!	[04:07]
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copumpkin	BingoBoingo: nah, trying to remember how much I have	[04:07]
copumpkin	and I can't even run a STAT: P	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	eleven bentlees	[04:09]
copumpkin	that'd be amusing	[04:09]
copumpkin	I don't think I can even afford one bentley though	[04:09]
nubbins`	bentleys are vulgar	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	o look, greene sueing mtgox	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin anyone with s.mpoe stock should afford a bentley!	[04:09]
copumpkin	lol	[04:10]
copumpkin	I don't think I bought enough of it back then	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin bentleys are divisible, so you should at least get a few bentloshis.	[04:10]
copumpkin	lol I hope so	[04:11]
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moiety	LOL	[04:11]
copumpkin	but what keyserver can I find your keys on?	[04:11]
copumpkin	I want to encrypt my email to office but I can't find the key for it	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	i has no idea ?	[04:11]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Still looking at the legal history of Illinois governors, being a n00b and being pissed about Gox because he was too good for warnings makes his Derping rather inconsequential in the history of embarassing things about Illinois	[04:11]
copumpkin	oh well	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin http://trilema.com/pgp/	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	it's impossible to keep track of keyservers and i kind-of gave up.	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo the law firm is the key there.	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	they wanted to do the suit. it's clearly a zerocost thing.	[04:12]
copumpkin	okay, emailed and encrypted :D	[04:13]
nubbins`	best thing that ever happened to illinois was a sufjan stevens album	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	talking about how it's a "natural extension of their practice" and whatnot	[04:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.599 BTC [-]	[04:13]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: where would you say you fall on the political spectrum?	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	asshole.	[04:13]
copumpkin	lol	[04:13]
nubbins`	lel	[04:13]
copumpkin	so you want to be a politician	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	maybe vajina some days.	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	where do you fall ?	[04:14]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Eh, if it isn't Cueto and Cueto it isn't an Illinois enough case	[04:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00509999 = 0.2805 BTC [-]	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	"So, we don’t have to worry about Japanese laws and how they apply."	[04:14]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I'm firmly in the "don't be an asshole" camp :)	[04:14]
copumpkin	I'm sure that's a huge surprise to you	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	hallo we are 12 and don't need to worry about our asshole.	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin lol	[04:15]
BingoBoingo	Lol, derpy n00bs http://www.edelson.com/jay-edelson/	[04:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.0051 = 0.7191 BTC [+] {2}	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	obviously, as you'd imagine, my view is that the world is split among the assholes that admit it and the assholes that don't.	[04:15]
copumpkin	I actually don't entirely disagree	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	also asshole kinda looks like fasole,	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	which is romanian for beans	[04:16]
copumpkin	lol	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	which are empirically related	[04:16]
BingoBoingo	What is it with people trying to do anything in Illinois and not realizing you have to buy whatever jurisdiction you want to operate in, either outright or as a time-share	[04:16]
nubbins`	i made refried beans for the first time last week	[04:16]
nubbins`	i think i mentioned it at the time	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo maybe they has ? tbh the dumbledore lawyer guy sort-of evokes jackie chiles for me.	[04:17]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: do you have some sort of defense against replay attacks on mpex btw? what if I send a "sell X" command and someone sniffs it and sends it again?	[04:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [+]	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin try it ?	[04:17]
nubbins`	it's too bad they're called that in english, because it's kind of a rotten name for a food	[04:17]
copumpkin	all I get for now is "unrecognized signature" :)	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` if that's your ocmplaint what about tossed salad ?	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin clearly secure then :D	[04:18]
nubbins`	we call it garden salad here	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	but srsly, yes.	[04:18]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: lol	[04:18]
nubbins`	as you can imagine, tossed salad brings jelly-covered anus to mind	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha omfg no fucking way	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i finally clicked your link. DO THESE ATTORNEYS EVEN LEAFT!	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	s/ATTORNEYS/ATTORNYES	[04:19]
nubbins`	ATTRNOYES	[04:19]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: will I get some sort of confirmation when the key is accepted?	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: See, like the Groupons of the Illinois legal game	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin yeah	[04:20]
copumpkin	cool	[04:20]
Azelphur	mircea_popescu: what's your opinion on the whole gox thing, think they'll get back up after a while? :P	[04:20]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo does that page look as broken to you as it does to me or is it just a case of "our designer made it look good in chrome"	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	Azelphur you can freely trade mtgox debt for bitcoinica debt on a 1:1 parity	[04:21]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: keybase.io, does that look like something you'd use?	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	or any other parity your favourite rng suggests.	[04:21]
Azelphur	fun	[04:21]
Azelphur	so no, then xD	[04:21]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: They used some javascript in the layout it seems. Works ok in the factory firefox install, not in the useful firefox install though	[04:21]
Azelphur	I was a plonker and bought gox debt	[04:22]
Azelphur	o/	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin "Keybase will be a public directory of publicly auditable public keys. All paired, for convenience, with unique usernames."	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	explain ?	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	in like, nonretard english.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	"I graduated cum laude with a degree in philosophy from Brandeis University and received my J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School"	[04:23]
copumpkin	as far as I can tell, their goals are: 1) provide a standard mechanism to link online accounts in a crpytographically secure way that doesn't require trust of their servers 2) make gpg more user-friendly	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	dude brandeis is where the mass governor's escorts go to school.	[04:23]
copumpkin	so they have a website that lets you link online profiles and a command-line tool that talks to the site and calls gpg	[04:23]
copumpkin	ultimately, they're mostly a fancier keyserver	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[04:23]
BingoBoingo	I know. People who care go to SIU.	[04:23]
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copumpkin	Azelphur: pl0nk	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin so why do i want to use them ?	[04:24]
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Azelphur	yup	[04:24]
Azelphur	I'm 97 BTC deep in gox, bought at ~0.14 (so 15 BTC)	[04:24]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I dunno, they're pretty, and seem to provide some nice identity linkage stuff that seems handy. Otherwise, not much point :)	[04:24]
copumpkin	I like the service	[04:24]
copumpkin	mostly because I want more people to use gpg	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	so basically what, they scrape social media sites for snippets signed by x sig ? a la gribble except spammier ?	[04:25]
copumpkin	yeah, basically	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	i cant see any harm in it	[04:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0051 = 0.1683 BTC [+]	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	i wouldn't personally use it because i don't actually use any social media sites.	[04:25]
copumpkin	ah, fair enough :)	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	except i guess twitter but i don't really gas if x is y or not there	[04:26]
kakobrekla	goes to twitter to tell the world, "i dun use social meddia situes"	[04:26]
nubbins`	so how do you know who's going to trivia night on tuesday?!	[04:26]
nubbins`	talk to people?	[04:26]
nubbins`	DO YOU EVEN INTERNET	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	hardly.	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	i mostly pay people to internet for me.	[04:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	which reminds me of the joke with the jooz.	[04:26]
nubbins`	ah, that's fair	[04:26]
copumpkin	I bet you're paying someone to type these messages right now, while someone else is giving you a rusty trombone	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	nah, that was earlier	[04:27]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well Twitter's upside is that you can school someone in front of their internet friends and make their internet friends wonder why they associated in the first place.	[04:27]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i mostly use it because it's full of derps of the "holier than thou" school of assholery.	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	i like those.	[04:28]
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gesell1	BingoBoingo mircea_popescu I may go knock on Jay's door on monday	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, one day when i'm rich i'll splurge and get myself a smartphone	[04:29]
copumpkin	lol	[04:29]
BingoBoingo	gesell1: Who the hell is Jay?	[04:29]
MisterE	fuck smartphones	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	and then the whole universe of social media sites will lay open before me	[04:29]
copumpkin	sounds awesome	[04:29]
MisterE	I'm in front of a computer enough	[04:29]
MisterE	I dont need one with me	[04:29]
BingoBoingo	Eh, I used to have smartphones.	[04:29]
copumpkin	I have a smartphone but I hate using it	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 aite.	[04:29]
gesell1	BingoBoingo: the lawyer you linked too	[04:29]
copumpkin	iphone4, so slow it's too unpleasant to use	[04:29]
nubbins`	copumpkin: there's an easy solution there ;p	[04:29]
copumpkin	I made the mistake of installing ios7	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 is he actually smart irl ?	[04:29]
copumpkin	and now it's unusably slow	[04:29]
MisterE	I look around me and everyone's face is buried in their phones I think its sad	[04:29]
copumpkin	so I just don't do anything on it	[04:30]
gesell1	mircea_popescu: i have no idea. does he need to be?	[04:30]
nubbins`	copumpkin, generally it's less of a good idea to update ios after new hardware comes out.	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	gesell1: Ah, that one. I just prefer the lower parts of the state.	[04:30]
copumpkin	except, err, make phone calls	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	MisterE ikr? at least they could have the decency to get the salmon colored models.	[04:30]
copumpkin	nubbins`: yeah yeah, but they don't let us downgrade, so oh well :)	[04:30]
nubbins`	:D	[04:30]
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nubbins`	aren't you glad you bought in?	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 yes, it usually helps if the lawyer putting together a cas is smart.	[04:30]
MisterE	my GF's iP 4 runs iOS 7 fine	[04:30]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It is why I only use lawyers with Drive throughs.	[04:31]
copumpkin	MisterE: I hear it gets better with the latest 7.* update where you can disable effects	[04:31]
copumpkin	but mine is painfully slow	[04:31]
gesell1	well so i will find out monday	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin can it boil an egg at least ?	[04:31]
MisterE	I dunno it's the GFs and I dont go there	[04:31]
copumpkin	nope :(	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 be sure to report bacl :D	[04:31]
MisterE	last thing I want is to support her phone	[04:31]
gesell1	is there a problem if I pursue mtgox from 3 different lawyers at once?	[04:31]
kakobrekla	but you are supporting here	[04:31]
kakobrekla	her*	[04:31]
MisterE	lol you're suing Gox?	[04:32]
kakobrekla	and so apple.	[04:32]
MisterE	talk abotu throwing good money after bad	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla i blame ever for the apple.	[04:32]
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midnightmagic	mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio_	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	MisterE i'd be much surprised if the lawyer charges anything.	[04:32]
gesell1	MisterE: no im just in the initial stages of contacting each and every collective that is gathering to sue	[04:32]
MisterE	pro bono?	[04:32]
kakobrekla	i would not even consider iphone using female fyi.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	he's in it for positioning, which is strategically sound	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	MisterE no, just 99.9x% of any eventual proceeds.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 how much did you manage to donate via gox ?	[04:33]
MisterE	oh, I doubt there will be anything of value left for creditors	[04:33]
MisterE	but if there is you can be sure lawyers will get theirs	[04:33]
MisterE	donate lol	[04:33]
gesell1	mircea_popescu: over 100btc	[04:33]
kakobrekla	you gonna lose more coins suing than gain	[04:33]
MisterE	ouch	[04:34]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Around here most lawyers handling those sorts of complaints work on contingency, so they only get paid if they win	[04:34]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla the way the legal profession works in the us is that sometimes lawyers take cases for free, when they figure the bread is buttered on the other side.	[04:34]
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kakobrekla	yeah but paid from where	[04:35]
kakobrekla	with what	[04:35]
kakobrekla	from who	[04:35]
nubbins`	from the booty	[04:35]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: Asbestos companies usually	[04:35]
nubbins`	sort of like a mortgage advisor	[04:35]
nubbins`	they work for "free"	[04:35]
nubbins`	where free = a portion of your mortgage	[04:36]
kakobrekla	the only way out of here is bernankecoin the way i see it.	[04:36]
gesell1	pitty, i could find no bernankecoin	[04:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 443 @ 0.0055 = 2.4365 BTC	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla the lawyer wants bitcoin fame. that's free to him, as he has no cases anyway.	[04:36]
mircea_popescu	a noob lawyer with a shitty jd and no connection is basically equally qualified as a plumber.	[04:37]
kakobrekla	so they are not really getting paid as you said but whoreing out	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	and if he actually manages to get some dough from tibanne, all the better.	[04:37]
nubbins`	gesell1, it's called bernankoin i think	[04:37]
nubbins`	;;google bernankoin	[04:37]
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mircea_popescu	not like his "clients" will see any of it.	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	judging by the school he went to, he's being supported by either generous parents or generous husband.	[04:37]
mircea_popescu	so it all makes sense.	[04:38]
BingoBoingo	I dunno of any person in Illinois who while certified as a plummer and holding a JD would pratice law over practicing plumbing	[04:39]
gesell1	mircea_popescu: at the moment there appears to be only a few places to go. or only a few lawyers persuing the issue	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	Plumbing just pays better than law	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 i wasn't saying you sohu;dn't, by any means	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	just explaining how the thing works.	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	anyway : their top claim to fame is that they settled an amazon cas for ~150k	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	which went to charity.	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	bush league does not begin to describe.	[04:40]
KRS-One	I have a friend who is a roofer who makes as much as an attorney and then some.	[04:40]
nubbins`	skilled trades, man	[04:41]
KRS-One	he does the easy shit and runs a crew	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	(they also represented the Blagojevich dood. also for free, also to no particular effect)	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	I really don't understand the point of retaining an unconnected lawyer	[04:41]
nubbins`	that said, his body will be wrecked by the time he's 45	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you know blag ?	[04:41]
nubbins`	and he'll be taking orders from a guy ten years his junior	[04:41]
moiety	is it just me or does that lawyer dude look a wee bit like simon cowel?	[04:41]
gesell1	i assumed/hoped that the class action litigation that gets the most attention from the community will wind up with the most resources to devote to getting possible results	[04:41]
KRS-One	nubbins` you aint kiddin..except he's the business owner	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I'm the other end of the state.	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	The feudalism end	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	gesell1 i think you grossly misrepresent the substance of the sort of clueless idiots that still; had btc on gox.	[04:42]
KRS-One	he is real dumb and needs me to get a roofing license (take exams and shit) said I can make $100K/yr without doing a thing just holding the license.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	it's hardly a community and it definitely has no resources.	[04:42]
nubbins`	KRS-One, might as well.	[04:42]
KRS-One	i have to speak to an attorney to see what kind of liability it opens me up to..supposedly i can do it with no risk or liability.	[04:43]
gesell1	mircea_popescu: there were $40m worth of BTC waiting on Gox on one reddit comment thread alone. that could create resources	[04:43]
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mircea_popescu	money you don't have does not create resources, no.	[04:43]
KRS-One	nubbins`: he has been using his dad's general contractor's license but his dad is real old now and wont be doing it much longer	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	KRS-One: In the US the only thing you can acquire with a license is risk and liability	[04:44]
KRS-One	so bam this might be nice coin	[04:44]
KRS-One	BingoBoingo: i know I am skeptical	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	“Since we’ve been sitting here on the phone, I’ve seen three emails come in.”	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	ahahah how epic is that.	[04:45]
KRS-One	it nice to know a roofer..i got a new roof put on my house for real cheap, just labor and materials.	[04:45]
moiety	this is why its good to know a mechanic too	[04:45]
KRS-One	took forever to get him to do it tho	[04:45]
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KRS-One	moiety: yep. marine and diesel mechanics make most i think	[04:46]
KRS-One	i was stupid. i went to college.	[04:46]
nubbins`	i had my roof redone last summer	[04:46]
nubbins`	wait, no, summer before	[04:46]
nubbins`	fucking mansard roofs	[04:46]
nubbins`	$$$$	[04:46]
BingoBoingo	Well, the boring olf gasoline car mechanic that fixed the mess I made trying to fix that saturn made decent money for his time.	[04:47]
nubbins`	"know what'd be a good idea? if none of this shit was right angles"	[04:47]
moiety	i think my roof might fall off. i saw slates outside on the ground	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	moiety maybe your roof buries some pets	[04:47]
BingoBoingo	moiety: You and your fancy european roofs. Here shingles are made out of asphalt and cat litter	[04:48]
moiety	lolololol	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	my shingles are made of detcord and baby tears.	[04:48]
BingoBoingo	lol	[04:49]
moiety	I'm scared to see your homes....	[04:49]
BingoBoingo	detsord would never work with the weather here.	[04:49]
nubbins`	my home is quaint, but only because of the lack of detcord and kitty litter	[04:50]
moiety	did you guys see the £150 house that gets rented out for milk?	[04:50]
BingoBoingo	No, but I've considered buying a block of $200 houses in detroit and starting a farm	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	moiety breast milk ?	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo well detcord would make your house move somewhere else then	[04:51]
KRS-One	mircea_popescu: depending on the roof, the shingles arent what keeps the water out. main protection for a roof comes from the tar paper that covers the wood. shingles only keep the sun from runing the tar paper.	[04:51]
KRS-One	if it werent for the sun and other things you dont even need shingles.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	KRS-One that may be generallky true, but i come from transylvania, which invented wood shingle roofing.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	allow me to show you :	[04:52]
moiety	mircea_popescu: it doesn't specify.......	[04:52]
moiety	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513154/Farmer-builds-house-just-150-using-materials-skips--current-tenant-pays-rent-MILK.html	[04:52]
BingoBoingo	KRS-One: Most of the world operates on the assumption shingles move the water	[04:52]
KRS-One	thats what i have, wood shingle..cedar. Its one of the best you can get.	[04:52]
KRS-One	BingoBoingo yep	[04:52]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: you'd need to truck in soil	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biserica_de_lemn_din_Cizer	[04:53]
ozbot	Biserica de lemn din Cizer - Wikipedia	[04:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-]	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	230 year old, that thing. all wood. no metal.	[04:53]
KRS-One	the BEST ROOF: flat deck (gravel)	[04:53]
KRS-One	wow nice	[04:53]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Or to many other places. The most recent local tornado didn't come within a mile, but other weird wind anamolies still had things impacting the roof in interestng ways	[04:53]
KRS-One	thats really neat to have history behind your home.	[04:53]
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nubbins`	the top of my roof is tar pitch	[04:54]
nubbins`	sides are shingled	[04:54]
KRS-One	i dont know what tar pitch is	[04:54]
KRS-One	hnn	[04:54]
BingoBoingo	Maybe I should get the next roof done in pitchblend!!!	[04:54]
nubbins`	they use a flamethrower to melt coal tar all over it	[04:55]
moiety	mircea_popescu: that's so cute. it just needs broadband and its perfect!	[04:55]
KRS-One	ah yes flatdek?	[04:55]
KRS-One	flat deck	[04:55]
nubbins`	sandwiched with layers of tar paper	[04:55]
nubbins`	prolly the same thing you're thinking of	[04:55]
KRS-One	thats the best type of roof to have..many commercial buildings have that	[04:56]
nubbins`	self-healing	[04:56]
KRS-One	yea	[04:56]
nubbins`	as long as you have any amount of summer	[04:56]
KRS-One	i've heard horror stories where roofers fell off and into the hot kettle of tar	[04:56]
nubbins`	popular for the row houses here, most of which have flat roofs	[04:56]
KRS-One	a popular one here in Florida are concrete shingle..i did some roofing when i was younger..talk about hard work.	[04:57]
nubbins`	looks nice tho	[04:58]
KRS-One	gets so hot on the roof tops you can get burned by just picking up your hammer on the metal side	[04:58]
KRS-One	you have to be a tough bastard to work in roofing year round..i think doing concrete work was actually easier.	[04:59]
KRS-One	i did both for a while..they both sucked.	[04:59]
KRS-One	those jobs were my main motivator for going to college.	[04:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 455 @ 0.0055 = 2.5025 BTC	[05:00]
nubbins`	re: russian cargo planes landing in crimea	[05:03]
nubbins`	"Astakhov said the people in the planes refused to identify themselves and waved off customs officials, saying they didn't require their services."	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	they sound exactly like bitcoin people.	[05:03]
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mircea_popescu	also, this shit's pretty epic:	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/you_are_the_98.html	[05:05]
ozbot	The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98%	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	this chick should be in my harem already.	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	"We need a third party!" Come on, do you think the media will allow you to have a third party? John Anderson, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader-- they let them through to "show" third party candidates aren't any more serious than Howard Stern when he ran for governor. Poor Ron Paul pulls in more people than porn but he can't get a break, sorry buddy, 100 years too late for your kind. There's a difference between what you ne	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	ed and what you want, and the media will always, relentlessly give you what you want. Do you know why you have such poor candidates every single election? Because you want them, you want someone you can easily judge for some sexual indiscretion or because they called latinos chicanos. "Well, that matters to us!" Then you got what you asked for.	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	· · · · · · · · · · logtest · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·	[05:06]
nubbins`	yeah, read that	[05:09]
nubbins`	depressing more than anything	[05:09]
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mircea_popescu	i dun live there, so to me it's mostly funny	[05:10]
nubbins`	it's funny to you because you're rich ;D	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	and an asshole.	[05:11]
nubbins`	you don't think the people shouting over each other at general assemblies were assholes?!	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	no. assholes are never idiots,	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	and idiots aren't really assholes, they're just idiots.	[05:11]
KRS-One	not at all	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	like you know, a rock falling down a cliff isn't a car.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	even if it does move.	[05:12]
kakobrekla	dam kids breaking the logs again	[05:12]
nubbins`	what next, my lips and anus aren't a hot dog?	[05:12]
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mircea_popescu	i wonder if hot chick lips and anus hot-dogs are a delicacy in china.	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	i suppose throw in the vulva too.	[05:13]
decimation	mircea - these guys appear to be curating btc exchange data http://www.netagio.com/market-data	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	"guaranteed 13 to 19yo"	[05:14]
nubbins`	well, ya need a bit of salt	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	decimation you know who runs it /	[05:14]
BingoBoingo	Eh, seriously Russia being in Crimea is not interesting at all. The only interesting point is how long they can go without commiting regular forces to the endeavor.	[05:14]
nubbins`	anecdote: a friend was approached by a young (~13yo) girl asking for a cigarette. friend says "you're too young to smoke"	[05:15]
nubbins`	girl says "lick my salty piss-flaps"	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	decimation pounds and euro ? i already got a euro future and what are these pounds	[05:15]
decimation	yeah http://www.goldmoney.com/company/press-releases/goldmoney-group-launches-new-bitcoin-focused-company-in-the-uk	[05:15]
decimation	it's the goldmoney guy	[05:15]
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decimation	he's seen the future and he wants in on bitcoin	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	decimation do you knw him ?	[05:15]
decimation	no I'm just an interested bystander	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	well unless he somehow finds his way here...	[05:16]
BingoBoingo	Eh, when people too young ask me for cigarettes I usually tell them I have cancer and ask them if they really want a cigarette.	[05:16]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` the obvious response was to offer the whole pack for a bj	[05:16]
BingoBoingo	Anymore a bj is cheaper than a pack of smokes	[05:17]
decimation	I suspect this guy is involved somehow, he is associated with goldmoney http://jamesturkblog.blogspot.com/	[05:17]
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mircea_popescu	i kind-of wonder how long reddit will take to digest teh latest mpoe release.	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	my money's kind-of on "never" tbh.	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	o, james turk, goldbug guy. makes sense.	[05:18]
decimation	yeah he's a hardcore goldbug and tries to cash in on that audience	[05:19]
decimation	but he also appears to be interested in bitcoin	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	well... maybe one day he gets here.	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	im still looking for someone to run a delivered gold future.	[05:20]
decimation	yeah it seems that this netagio is a spinoff of some kind. I'm surprised that he or his staff hasn't contacted you	[05:21]
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decimation	I think they are building a good foundation before going big, unlike some out there...	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	on a lark i'd venture a guess that <1% of irl businesses have a truely global internet listening program going.	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	it'd be certainly within what they can afford, financially	[05:22]
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mircea_popescu	sadly, it's not within what they can afford intellectually.	[05:22]
decimation	Oh no, they spend $$$ on facebook monitors	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	and so it goes, lots of deaf and blind	[05:22]
decimation	but that's not listening to anything...	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	decimation i suppose it's like with everything else, blow the website budget on css.	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	incidentally i suppose you've stumbled on a perfectly valid business model, the translators among WoTs will be tomorrow's lawyers.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	definitely as obscenely well paid.	[05:24]
decimation	well, each big corp has a WoT that generally consists of the CEO's drinking buddies	[05:25]
decimation	it's surprising that the internet hasn't linked those WoTs...	[05:25]
BingoBoingo	Bonus, it pisses off the liberal arts majors because they can only translate wrong languages	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	it is.	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	huge market there.	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	in point of fact, most of the power women have in western society comes strictly from that bridging role.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	it's not the unshaven idiots blathering on tv about "Rights" and other stuff that do anything.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	it's the sluts that fuck different ceos.	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	that's 99% of female power.	[05:26]
decimation	it shows up as a virtue as well	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	well it is a virtue.	[05:27]
decimation	most effective female 'leaders' I have seen are school-marm types who know how to connect the right people and step away	[05:27]
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mircea_popescu	but about 1bn dollars spent on "women in tech"-esque programs dedicated to highschooler girls would return about the same net value for the cause as about 600k spent on "fuck as many powerful people as you possibly can take, as well as you possibly can, starting today." programs for the same.	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	and one of the best indications that this is actually the correct approach would be that the impotent-by-design feminist movement will readily recognise it as the ultimate evil.	[05:29]
moiety	you make it sound like you cant do anything as a girl without opening your legs :(	[05:29]
decimation	well, you can call them "finishing schools", like they used to have	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	moiety you can do plenty of things that ultimately won't matter.	[05:29]
asciilifeform	re: keybase.io - this was the idiocy that wants your private keys	[05:29]
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asciilifeform	'use gpg online!1!1'	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform not in copumpkin's retelling. i was giving him space to see if he mentiones it.	[05:30]
asciilifeform	hah	[05:30]
decimation	maybe you can host your key in a vps with a web login	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	i'm like... you know, a slut. i give people space :)	[05:30]
decimation	I think this has been linked before: http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/	[05:31]
moiety	not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter	[05:31]
decimation	it's an example of a real-life WoT between silicon valley CEOs	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	moiety maybe you enjoy it ?	[05:31]
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decimation	"Bill Campbell (Chairman of Intuit Board of Directors, Co-Lead Director of Apple, and advisor to Google) was also involved in the Google-Intel agreement, as reflected in an email exchange from 2006 in which Bill Campbell agreed with Jonathan Rosenberg (Google Advisor to the Office of CEO and former Senior Vice President of Product Management) that Google should call [Intel CEO] Paul Otellini before making an offer to an Intel employee,	[05:32]
decimation	regardless of whether the Intel employee first approached Google."	[05:32]
asciilifeform	'wage theft' ?	[05:32]
decimation	shockingly thousands of beta engineers are willing to accept what they are given	[05:32]
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mircea_popescu	the irony here being that an industry;s stability can be best measured by the wot divergence (well really, by wot graph isolation)	[05:33]
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mircea_popescu	once gaps get bridged "industry best practices" develop,	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	and the thing is going down in flames faster than people can ditch it.	[05:33]
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decimation	of course the leftists are having a fit because this particular WoT ignores thier votes	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	of course.	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	wots aren't votes.	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	in fact, wots are not only different from votes, but really much better	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	w is v v2.	[05:34]
nubbins`	not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter <<< "No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	talk about bitcoin-mediated disruption of the electroal system	[05:34]
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asciilifeform	http://pando.com/2014/02/24/knightscopes-new-robotic-law-enforcer-is-like-staring-at-the-demise-of-humanity/	[05:34]
ozbot	Knightscope’s new robotic law enforcer is like staring at the demise of humanity \| PandoDaily	[05:35]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/LDMRgLX etc	[05:36]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[05:36]
decimation	Oh, I was hoping someone was going to make a real RoboCop	[05:36]
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decimation	not some lameass webcam	[05:36]
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mircea_popescu	"work in pairs to protect each other"	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	now how does this work ?	[05:38]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: In a twist confounding most authors of robot oppressor scifi the boards with critical operational components in the bots are varied from unit to unit.	[05:38]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if the builder had half a brain, it's a countermeasure re: gps 'meaconing'	[05:38]
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asciilifeform	link 2 bots via spread-spectrum whatever, if one thinks he suddenly 'flew' somewhere, and the other says 'no'	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	i can't begin to imagine how they figure this thing has a fucking chance.	[05:39]
asciilifeform	surveillance camera on wheels, with megaphone for shouting orders, what's not to like	[05:40]
decimation	yeah they are going to end up in a chop shop in the ghetto within 10 minutes of operation	[05:40]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Remember the Russia-Georgia conflict... GPS can go dark	[05:40]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: gps can and does go dark at your nearest truck stop	[05:40]
asciilifeform	;;google gps jammer	[05:40]
gribble	GPS jammer - Cell Phone Jammers: ; Wholesales GPS Jammer - GPS Jamming - GPS Signal Jammer: ; GPS Jammer Signal Jammer Blocker - YouTube:	[05:40]
asciilifeform	;google meaconing	[05:40]
asciilifeform	;;google meaconing	[05:40]
gribble	Meaconing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; CHAPTER 4 (FM 24-33): ; meaconing - definition of meaconing by the Free Online Dictionary ...:	[05:40]
decimation	http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htecm/articles/20130820.aspx	[05:41]
ozbot	Electronic Weapons: Making The World Unsafe For GPS Jammers	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform more's the point... they can't make supermarket carts with working wheels	[05:41]
nubbins`	Crime has a $1 trillion impact on the American economy, according to Santana Li. “If we can show that we can literally cut that in half, we’re going to have every mayor in the country calling us,” he says.	[05:41]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: All reasons why civ security bots will bow down to people with compasses, maps, and lasers	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	andthey're going to somehow make a 100kg self moving robot	[05:42]
nubbins`	soooo, it's equipped with a sword?	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck happens if it steps in gum	[05:42]
nubbins`	it starts shooting, obv	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	orly ?	[05:42]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: if it steps in gum << $100/hr public servant with wheelbarrow sent to fetch it, clearly.	[05:42]
decimation	it's not fair to have a WoT of robots that ignore the votes of the disenfranchised	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	this sounds all so distinctly soviet.	[05:42]
BingoBoingo	Well, if pepper spray counteracts rapists, spraypaint counteracts robots.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	speaking of pipe dreamz :	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0WmWUT2rM	[05:43]
ozbot	RObotzi.S03.Ep13.Sugstanta - YouTube	[05:43]
moiety	"work in pairs to protect each other"	[05:45]
moiety	03:38 now how does this work ? << i think like this http://imgur.com/gallery/snoMroC	[05:45]
asciilifeform	incidentally,	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	whoa she's good.	[05:45]
asciilifeform	when deploying gps jammers across an area	[05:45]
asciilifeform	don't be dumb like the iraqi army	[05:46]
asciilifeform	remember school physics	[05:46]
asciilifeform	think 'constructive interference'	[05:46]
asciilifeform	a fat, loud mast is a target	[05:46]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well simple solution is allowing a slug of metal to meet a satellite	[05:46]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: people who can afford to plug a satellite tend not to get 'democratized' in the first place	[05:47]
asciilifeform	this advice is for the rest of us.	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	gaddafi definitely coud have afforded to plug a satelite.	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	he chose to plug ukrainian nurses instead.	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	old age does that. back when he was still sane everyone put up with him. including rice.	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	(who, if anyone forgot, he propositioned quite openly for a spot in his harem)	[05:48]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Well consider that the payload necessary to neutralize a GPS satellite can probably be measured in a single digit number of grams. Even many "tactical" missiles if stripped for the locker room could prolly do the job.	[05:49]
asciilifeform	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ylayo7VkTE/UeViOxR4CPI/AAAAAAAACmQ/ZQsXIO6l_cY/s1600/Picture65.png	[05:49]
nubbins`	when rice visited bolivia, they gave her a guitar with a coca leaf lacquered onto it	[05:49]
decimation	hey did you guys behind the iron curtain watch Krtek the mole when you were little?	[05:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: i had the book!	[05:51]
asciilifeform	still got it	[05:51]
asciilifeform	translated at 'крот в городе'	[05:51]
asciilifeform	(mole in the city)	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea what that is.	[05:52]
decimation	sad news, even communist propaganda cartoons can be ruined by apple http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-15/apple-helps-czech-mole-enter-21-billion-u-s-toy-market.html	[05:52]
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asciilifeform	i think in the animated version he gets to fuck	[05:52]
asciilifeform	(post-soviet kid's tv is an odd place)	[05:52]
decimation	the videos are widely available in the us but no one knows about it	[05:52]
decimation	lol that's messe dup	[05:52]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: If only hypercard was still a thing	[05:53]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTrWQ2vanzg	[05:53]
ozbot	Melvins - 'Nude With Boots' (Full Album HD) - YouTube	[05:53]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: it can still be a thing at your house. grab the emulator + tarball from my site & have fun.	[05:53]
nubbins`	^ named after a picture mp linked once	[05:53]
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mircea_popescu	i have left my mark on popular culture	[05:54]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Why. The SE/30 is dead, but I still have a flock of MacClassics	[05:54]
mircea_popescu	pustular cupure	[05:54]
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mircea_popescu	whatever	[05:54]
nubbins`	the second one, in this case	[05:54]
nubbins`	unpopular unculture, even	[05:54]
decimation	ascii did you even find a passable lisp machine emulator	[05:55]
asciilifeform	decimation: which lisp machine	[05:55]
BingoBoingo	And once I care enough to fix the SE/30 it will be a thing again	[05:55]
asciilifeform	decimation: there's 1 major emulator for each major species	[05:55]
decimation	the symbolics machine	[05:55]
asciilifeform	decimation: the only one that even begins to work is the one by symbolics shortly before it croaked	[05:56]
BingoBoingo	One of my regrets though is not picking up an Apple IIGS, because that looks like that could have lead to incredible fun	[05:56]
asciilifeform	;;google snap4 symbolics	[05:56]
gribble	CLiki: VLM_on_Linux: ; public ynniv / opengenera Octocat-spinner-32 - GitHub: ; public ynniv / opengenera Octocat-spinner-32 - GitHub:	[05:56]
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asciilifeform	;;google symbolics lisp pirate bay	[05:57]
gribble	Copyleft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Programmer Mega Book Pack- Part 1 (download torrent) - TPB: ; COMMON LISP: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation:	[05:57]
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asciilifeform	;;google symbolics open genera pirate bay	[05:57]
gribble	Belize General Information- Facts (and Maps) - Ambergris Caye: ; comments - Reddit: ; The Soul Travelers-Illuminati & Occult documentary ... - The Pirate Bay:	[05:57]
decimation	okay I might to some dumpster-diving to find the thing	[05:57]
asciilifeform	fuck this	[05:57]
asciilifeform	http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/3769989/Symbolics_Open_Genera_2.0_for_Alpha_-_complete_package_with_Lisp	[05:57]
ozbot	Symbolics Open Genera 2.0 for Alpha - complete package with Lisp (download torrent) - TPB	[05:57]
BingoBoingo	;;google opengenera HP alpha	[05:57]
gribble	Symbolics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Symbolics - Internet Archive: ; Symbolics \| The (λ) Lambda meme - all things Lisp:	[05:57]
asciilifeform	there we go	[05:57]
decimation	heh thanks	[05:57]
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asciilifeform	first comment in that piratebay link is dave schmidt	[05:58]
BingoBoingo	;;google WOps.txt	[05:58]
gribble	Urban Dictionary: wop: ; Molly Wop (MidgeCassidy) on Twitter: ; BRUNO MARS lyrics:	[05:58]
asciilifeform	the last man of symbolics corp.	[05:58]
decimation	ah so you have to run tru64	[05:59]
asciilifeform	decimation: not for snap4	[05:59]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Wy is that a prolem	[05:59]
asciilifeform	that's the unofficial linux port	[05:59]
asciilifeform	(x86-64)	[05:59]
asciilifeform	the pb link is the original dec alpha disk	[05:59]
asciilifeform	you'll need it for the sources.	[06:00]
decimation	ahh I see	[06:00]
asciilifeform	thing came with ~99% of its source.	[06:00]
BingoBoingo	DEC Alpha, least depreciating hardware investment ever	[06:01]
asciilifeform	when i was at schmidt's house i offered him $BIG for schematics	[06:01]
asciilifeform	he wouldn't budge	[06:01]
asciilifeform	he doesn't own the company	[06:01]
asciilifeform	probate court did (at the time)	[06:02]
asciilifeform	the idiot who snapped it up at bankruptcy auction died a while ago	[06:02]
BingoBoingo	Well, racialslur.txt	[06:02]
decimation	well, what about the idiot's probate?	[06:02]
asciilifeform	then an mit prof with nsa connections paid the idiot's debts	[06:02]
asciilifeform	and now owns it	[06:02]
asciilifeform	and that's all that was heard of it since	[06:02]
decimation	he probably thinks it's his ticket to get rich	[06:03]
decimation	like everyone else in academia	[06:03]
asciilifeform	decimation: nope	[06:03]
asciilifeform	here's the real dirt	[06:03]
asciilifeform	http://www.usaspending.gov/search?form_fields={"recipient_name":"symbolics+","recip_state":null,"recip_congdist":null,"recip_country":null,"recipient_duns":["966978090","873185821"],"spending_cat":null,"dept":null,"extent_competed":null,"psc_code":null,"naics_code":null,"fyear":null}&sort_by=date&per_page=25	[06:03]
ozbot	USASpending.gov	[06:03]
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asciilifeform	it brings in, ~50k / yr in eternal pentagon contract	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	so it's worth like 600k	[06:04]
decimation	sounds shady as hell to me	[06:04]
asciilifeform	and is, in general, 'too much fun' of a technology to be turned loose	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	· · · · · · · · · · logtest · · · · · · · · · · ·	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	yay!	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	logs no longer suck! all hail kakobrekla, fixer of sucks.	[06:05]
asciilifeform	the $5k circa 2010 - that's my old employer.	[06:05]
asciilifeform	whom i talked into buying an actual copy of OG	[06:06]
asciilifeform	came with dec alpha. for 'free'.	[06:06]
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asciilifeform	incidentally, the original mit lisp machine sources / schematics are bsd-licensed now.	[06:08]
asciilifeform	http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/	[06:08]
ozbot	Retrocomputing - MIT CADR Lisp Machines	[06:08]
decimation	interesting	[06:08]
asciilifeform	http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr-zmacs.jpg	[06:08]
nubbins`	bed; nite	[06:09]
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decimation	so reading your blog, it seems that MIT eventually went to Scheme to teach young EE's how to code microcontrollers	[06:10]
mircea_popescu	yeah, ima go with nubbins`	[06:10]
asciilifeform	decimation: you misread	[06:10]
asciilifeform	they ditched it	[06:10]
asciilifeform	a few years ago	[06:10]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell copumpkin your pubkey is unusable for some sort of reason.	[14:24]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[14:25]
nubbins`	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z9e3l/bitcoins_warren_buffet_makes_8k_btc_profit_in/	[14:26]
ozbot	Bitcoin's Warren Buffet makes 8k BTC profit in February, halts options trading because of the lack o	[14:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0008702 = 16.1857 BTC [+]	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	o look at that	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	o wow	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	$vwap s.mpoe	[14:26]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00083806 high: 0.00087478 low: 0.000745 volume: 1421928 btc: 1191.6611664 7 day: average: 0.0008666 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.000745 volume: 7508070 btc: 6506.4808497 30 day: average: 0.00087779 high: 0.00096 low: 0.000745 volume: 29347907 btc: 25761.1538897	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	learn something every day.	[14:27]
nubbins`	most days, anyway	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` are you nugyar ?	[14:30]
nubbins`	i'll never tell!	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[14:30]
nubbins`	fairly eye-catching as far as headlines go though, hey?	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	i'll bet you 1k atcs it never gets over 10 positive vote differeential.	[14:31]
nubbins`	i'll take that bet once i get around to generating an actual address that starts with 1AltcoinSucksCocks	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	o wait you're the atc hater	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	my bad	[14:32]
nubbins`	heh.	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	what altscamcoin of your choice would you take instead ?	[14:32]
nubbins`	hate is such a strong word	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	ya but hater isn't.	[14:32]
nubbins`	the opposite, even	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	rght	[14:32]
nubbins`	ah, they're all the same. does a horse prefer one gopher hole over another?	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	so you've rendered yourself unplaypayable ?	[14:33]
nubbins`	well i'm still heavily exposed in both fiat and btc, so not quite	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	unPLAYpayable	[14:33]
nubbins`	oh, i misread	[14:33]
nubbins`	i do accept canadian tire money, but it's harder to find in yurop	[14:34]
mircea_popescu	da fucxk is that	[14:34]
nubbins`	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Tire_money	[14:34]
ozbot	Canadian Tire money - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[14:34]
nubbins`	it's a thing.	[14:34]
mircea_popescu	holy shit	[14:34]
nubbins`	not unheard-of to find private businesses that accept it	[14:34]
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nubbins`	the quintessential canadian scrip	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea	[14:35]
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mircea_popescu	"but is not considered a private currency"	[14:35]
nubbins`	nod. "a part of our heritage"	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	because why	[14:35]
nubbins`	because CT isn't as brave as they'd like to be	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	but i mean... it gets redeemed and circulated right ?	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	what else?	[14:36]
nubbins`	yeah	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	The coupon rate earned was initially 5% of the eligible purchase price but was subsequently lowered to 3%, then to 1.4%, and now is 0.4%.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	lmao why	[14:36]
nubbins`	not unusual to find yourself in the lineup at canadian tire, stuck behind some asshole buying a snowblower with canadian tire money	[14:36]
nubbins`	do you know how long it takes to count out nine hundred dollars in 10 cent bills?!	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	o holy shi	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	t	[14:38]
mircea_popescu	and yes i do. i come from romania, remember ?	[14:38]
nubbins`	HEH	[14:38]
nubbins`	i often wondered why south korea hasn't revalued their currency	[14:40]
nubbins`	no subunits; everything is "won", with 1000 won ~= $1	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	more than the value per se, romania is still to this day a cash economy.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	i have never used a plastic card to pay for any purchase during my entire stay here.	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	i am the 99% in this regard.	[14:40]
nubbins`	sk too, at least until mobile phone payments started around 2007	[14:40]
nubbins`	it's unusual for canadians to carry any amount of cash	[14:41]
nubbins`	i am the 1% in this regard	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	haha	[14:41]
nubbins`	(and no other)	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	how to be a real gangsta :	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	carry fifteen hundred dolla in cash and fifteen hundred dolla worth of gun	[14:42]
nubbins`	heh	[14:43]
nubbins`	i should get a firearms license	[14:43]
nubbins`	i want to learn to hunt	[14:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5801 BTC [-]	[14:43]
nubbins`	lel, first comment on that reddit post	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/03/1/7016760/	[14:44]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[14:45]
nubbins`	bbl fixing hot water tank	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody knows that the dice are loaded	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody knows that the war is over	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody knows the good guys lost	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody knows the fight was fixed	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	The poor stay poor, the rich get rich	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	That's how it goes	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	Everybody knows	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	and now with music : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg	[14:46]
chetty	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bho9HeUCIAAg9Sw.jpg	[14:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09738672 = 0.1948 BTC [+] {2}	[14:50]
cazalla	mircea_popescu: when a bet i created is added to the site, why does it show duplicate bets coming from my address?	[14:50]
mircea_popescu	cazalla you mean this http://bitbet.us/faq/#21 ?	[14:51]
cazalla	guess i should pay more attention next time :)	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	:p	[14:52]
mircea_popescu	o look at that, cyprus govt collapsed overnight	[14:52]
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nubbins`	cohen is fucking amazing, ever read him?	[14:54]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[14:54]
nubbins`	the music is great, but the poetry...!	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	i don't care for his politics,	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	but yes, poetry i read.	[14:54]
wao-ender	lol http://dorktech.com/where-did-butterflylabs-go/	[14:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00560989 = 0.2356 BTC [+]	[14:55]
wao-ender	i'm laughing so hard right now	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	wao-ender https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438993301698793472	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	internally they call it the mpocalypse.	[14:55]
wao-ender	why that term?	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	guess.	[14:56]
wao-ender	had hard night, one hint please	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` aaand it's burried. you couldn't tell them if you wanted to.	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	wao-ender we're having this little private war, had for a while. mp versus the idiots.	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	the idiots are currently getting reamed with fireworks.	[14:58]
wao-ender	*rearmed?	[14:58]
wao-ender	hmm	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	;;ud reamed	[14:58]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reamed \| Reamed. To Ream, to annihilate the ass-hole of your sexual partner while performing anal sex. After I reamed her ass last night I feel L337 as hell. by Griffin ...	[14:58]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: Reamed	[14:58]
wao-ender	lol reamed	[14:58]
wao-ender	http://cs323724.userapi.com/v323724585/2c3c/TVDm5Ors-i4.jpg	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	anyway, let's pull a little chain here.	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	hey Luke-Jr, how about that bfl ?	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	(you know you're going on the list of accessories for that prosecution, right ?)	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	better spend the 30% left of those savings and anything you can borrow to retain counsel now, before the freeze orders start raining down.	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	you'll need all the help you can get propping up the "ignorant idiot without a clue" defense.	[15:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.050505 = 0.5051 BTC [-]	[15:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 11 @ 0.13311598 = 1.4643 BTC [-]	[15:12]
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ThickAsThieves	so BFL never shipped those pci boards that were guaranteed for xmas deliver?	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	color me serbprized	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	these recaptchas seem to be getting more impossible	[15:16]
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mircea_popescu	awwwh.	[15:18]
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ThickAsThieves	http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/01/live-blogging-berkshires-earnings-buffetts-annual-letter/?mod=WSJBlog	[15:19]
ozbot	Live Blogging Berkshire’s Earnings & Buffett’s Annual Letter - MoneyBeat - WSJ	[15:19]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2013ltr.pdf	[15:19]
ThickAsThieves	"Berkshire’s gain in net worth during 2013 was $34.2 billion"	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	i forget, what do hey have under management ? 2 trn ?	[15:22]
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ThickAsThieves	not sure i know how to read it right, but i see $74.3t in a lot of places	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	i think that's their reach	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	(ie, what position they could take counting all leverage)	[15:25]
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mircea_popescu	look for "total assets under management"	[15:25]
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ThickAsThieves	can;t find it	[15:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00086739 = 8.0667 BTC [-] {2}	[15:26]
ThickAsThieves	Total current assets ..................... 25,035 (in mils)	[15:26]
ThickAsThieves	how will they fair when he dies? "Next year’s letter will review our 50 years at Berkshire and speculate a bit about the next 50. In the meantime, come to Omaha on May 3rd and enjoy our Woodstock for Capitalists."	[15:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.00085581 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {4}	[15:28]
wao-ender	v0v	[15:29]
wao-ender	BingoBoingo: Ukranian Deputies Threaten to Restart Nuclear Weapons Program in Response to Russian Support for Crimea Separatists	[15:29]
ThickAsThieves	fare*	[15:30]
ThickAsThieves	worst headline i've seen from Al Jazeera: Israel shoots dead woman near Gaza border	[15:32]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` here, i made this as a gift for you : http://trilema.com/2014/a-potpourri-or-your-first-time-gazing-upon-the-intimate-workings-of-power/	[15:36]
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ThickAsThieves	lol the Mastercoin currency exchange is called Masterchest	[15:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20384 @ 0.00086974 = 17.7288 BTC [+]	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if they can get the irghts for the dog	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	"his master's voice"	[15:37]
ThickAsThieves	cyprus gov collapsed?	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[15:38]
ThickAsThieves	yeesh	[15:39]
ThickAsThieves	i guess everyone really was still using gox	[15:39]
ThickAsThieves	RBS, BFL, Cyprus	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	l;ol	[15:41]
ThickAsThieves	Under that plan, Cyprus must privatize its ports, telecoms and electricity companies to raise up to 1.4 billion and pay down debt by 2018. Centre and left wing parties rejected the privatization scheme.	[15:41]
ThickAsThieves	why do lefties deny?	[15:41]
ThickAsThieves	sounds great to me	[15:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 120 @ 0.07415382 = 8.8985 BTC [-] {16}	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	because they'd like sovereignity.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	the only chip cyprus has at any table is the ports and telecoms	[15:42]
ThickAsThieves	parliament split 25-25 on the vote, with five abstentions	[15:43]
ThickAsThieves	sounds like someone's payoff check was late	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	lmao @55 seat parliament. i imagine their senate is not large enough to supply players for a tournament of bridge.	[15:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.13569717 = 0.4071 BTC [+] {2}	[15:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00086581 = 5.0217 BTC [-]	[15:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00555021 = 0.2498 BTC [-]	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	an' now back to our regularly scheduled programme.	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85magDWMG1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[15:51]
wao-ender	ordinary romanian day^?	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	for the 1%	[15:54]
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mircea_popescu	those lucky enough to work for the 0.01%	[15:54]
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cazalla	is that good beer	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	nah	[15:56]
wao-ender	add Crimea hassle.	[16:03]
wao-ender	I think, perfect last few days.	[16:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11264 @ 0.00086993 = 9.7989 BTC [+] {2}	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	well the truth is... the russians could never afford to lose that.	[16:05]
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FabianB	so OIX and MPBOR is suspended for the time being	[16:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00087076 = 7.2604 BTC [+]	[16:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1879 @ 0.00019998 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {4}	[16:36]
davout	FabianB: looks like it	[16:38]
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ThickAsThieves	coindesk steals info on other blogs and makes fancy timeline linking to all gox articles http://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timeline/latest/embed/index.html?source=0AtTCgM8sLx3UdHNCeWdlZHBhNjVXQ1dtSWhUQm04LVE&font=Bevan-PotanoSans&maptype=toner&lang=en&start_at_slide=57&height=650	[16:44]
ThickAsThieves	all coindesk* gox articles	[16:45]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, a belated birthday gift	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	:)	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	FabianB yes.	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	sorry about that.	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that strategy worked in the past so well for so many now famous venues	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	wait... i couldn't actually name one	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	but obviously it worked. it must have. right ?	[16:47]
ThickAsThieves	content has to come from somewhere!	[16:47]
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mircea_popescu	i mean each year there are at least >9000 various start-ups, whether on broadway, off broadway, off-off broadway etc that try it.	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	i'm not even sure what purpose this doodad serves	[16:48]
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ThickAsThieves	i can click all the tags!	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	i could never point to one that succeeded	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	and yet each year...	[16:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.13311598 = 1.3312 BTC [-]	[16:48]
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mircea_popescu	incidentally, re ukraine : http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/Trilateral.shtml	[16:51]
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mircea_popescu	back when the us was still a sovereign, it promised (together with russia) to defend the ukrainian border if ukraina agrees to dismantle nukes.	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile russia is still a sovereign, but the us is not sovereign anymore.	[16:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[16:52]
nubbins`	"that depends on what your definition of 'defend' is"	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	nope, notrly.	[16:52]
asciilifeform	http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-science-and-engineering-papers/	[16:53]
ozbot	Publishers Withdraw More than 120 Gibberish Science and Engineering Papers - Scientific American	[16:53]
asciilifeform	shannonizer ftw!	[16:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05099 = 0.102 BTC [+]	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0056 = 0.168 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.0056 = 0.1512 BTC [+]	[16:57]
ThickAsThieves	there's one guy out there that's like, Wait I was serious! I'm not a machine!	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	ahjahaha	[16:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4748 @ 0.00087076 = 4.1344 BTC [+]	[16:58]
ninjashogun	haha	[16:58]
ninjashogun	who was that	[16:58]
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mircea_popescu	"The quantum droplet is made up of roughly five electrons and five holes. It possesses some characteristics of a liquid, like having ripples, the scientists said."	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	clearly, ripple wins at quantum.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	anyway : new particle.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	the dogeplet.	[17:00]
asciilifeform	http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/17/80/02/0004178002087_500X500.jpg	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform obviously i misread "ripple cunt"	[17:00]
asciilifeform	ahahaha	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	which i suppose is nubbins`'s next band	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	once they're done dicking around with the dick	[17:01]
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asciilifeform	'Most of the conferences took place in China, and most of the fake papers have authors with Chinese affiliations.'	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	spam.cn	[17:03]
nubbins`	DICK SURGERY!	[17:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.0056 = 0.6776 BTC [-]	[17:06]
nubbins`	https://twitter.com/CBCWam/status/439718120354086912/photo/1/large	[17:06]
ozbot	Twitter / CBCWam: Look at all the brand new CDS ...	[17:06]
nubbins`	that's one of our albums (atelier bleu!) on top of the pile :D	[17:06]
nubbins`	shoulda put dick surgery on top.	[17:06]
ThickAsThieves	"Just noticed my TOR wallet emptied a couple of days ago"	[17:09]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[17:09]
ThickAsThieves	Just noticed my lawn gnome was stolen	[17:09]
ThickAsThieves	and now all i have is these pictures	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	OMFG GUISE someone stoled my lawn	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	aw shit too slow again	[17:11]
ThickAsThieves	crimean!	[17:11]
ThickAsThieves	it has both crime and mean in it	[17:11]
ThickAsThieves	word of the month!	[17:12]
nubbins`	so we got our enormous-carbon-footprint 6.25% organic tank tops in for the yoga studio (eco-friendly!)	[17:12]
nubbins`	they don't even say "organic" on the label, anywhere	[17:12]
nubbins`	hahaha	[17:12]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[17:12]
nubbins`	fuck this client	[17:12]
ThickAsThieves	i was at an event last night where the speaker told the crowd to only eat orgasmic veggies	[17:12]
ThickAsThieves	especially if you eat the skin	[17:13]
nubbins`	people don't eat the skin?!	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	and fruits*	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	well, like bananas	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	kiwis	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	etc	[17:13]
asciilifeform	re: 'scigen': all the 'authors' would need to do now is to adjust the rng	[17:13]
asciilifeform	the problem of 'tell shit from shinola programmatically' is ai-complete	[17:14]
asciilifeform	anyone is welcome to try it even for 'arxiv vs snarxiv' (http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv)	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	snarxiv hahaha.	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	people here know everything don't they.	[17:15]
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nubbins`	ah, good point	[17:15]
nubbins`	what sort of deviant would eat a banana peel ;(	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	well it is probly the most orgasmic fruit	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	other than maybe cucumbers	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	but to you'd have to "fruit" "loosely" if using a cucumber	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	use*	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	can someone link me to the log where i rant about how if someone had an idea they didn't have an idea until someone in power says so ?	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	not sure if you ever quite put it that recursively	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	i didn't	[17:19]
mircea_popescu	i can't remember what the fuck exactly i said and so i can't grep too efficiently.	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	say something new then	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	meh.	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	it'll be more memorable this time	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	use a fucked up analogy	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	itll help	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[17:20]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the 'art' piece?	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i think it was around that discussion, but not exactly.	[17:20]
mircea_popescu	i was ranting at either tat or thestringpuller i think	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	fucking hell i need ai.	[17:21]
mircea_popescu	why doesn't grep take gestures!	[17:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00544066 = 0.7508 BTC [-] {6}	[17:22]
nubbins`	mp, ever read any Federico Garcia Lorca? was reminded of him earlier	[17:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 318 @ 0.00050177 = 0.1596 BTC [+] {7}	[17:23]
nubbins`	cohen named his daughter after him	[17:23]
nubbins`	always meant to pick some up, never quite got around to it	[17:24]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: the fellow with 'guardia civil, alma de charol' ?	[17:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05055 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}	[17:25]
nubbins`	computer says yes	[17:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.05003136 = 0.8005 BTC [-] {5}	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	Jan 25 16:40:13 we're not equal, even if we can type the same strings in a box they still aren't the same strings. depends whose name signs on them. we're not equal, even if two people have "the same idea", in one head it's an idea, in another head it's nothing.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	fuck me.	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	it was worth having it searched for. look at that beauty.	[17:27]
nubbins`	colored strings	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` yes.	[17:27]
asciilifeform	what was the context here	[17:27]
asciilifeform	'Quod licet Jovi...' ?	[17:27]
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mircea_popescu	the context is complicated.	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2014#459312	[17:30]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	basically me having an explosion over kids putting themselves in the whoodchipper	[17:30]
ThickAsThieves	fukn shit ... 19 AM shares lost in error on my last week. Grrr	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	the kids are playing the ceo, the woodchipper is chipping away	[17:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00559998 = 0.2464 BTC [+]	[17:30]
ThickAsThieves	never fucked up til now	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	thickasukto.	[17:30]
ThickAsThieves	well at least i can afford to fix it	[17:31]
ThickAsThieves	fukn gmail and threaded emails caused it	[17:31]
nubbins`	that's the spirit	[17:31]
asciilifeform	if i understand correctly, this is just the difference between armchair general and actual general	[17:32]
ThickAsThieves	btw you see people shares ukyo's facebook?	[17:33]
kakobrekla	oh yeah whats with the ukyo now	[17:33]
kakobrekla	did he pay up or what	[17:33]
ThickAsThieves	https://www.facebook.com/jon.montroll	[17:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00559998 = 0.196 BTC [+]	[17:33]
ThickAsThieves	nope	[17:33]
kakobrekla	or did he have the coins on gox	[17:33]
kakobrekla	cause that WOULD be fun.	[17:34]
kakobrekla	wait his name is MonTroll	[17:35]
kakobrekla	and you expect him to pay!?	[17:35]
nubbins`	mon ami, votre troll	[17:35]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[17:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]	[17:35]
nubbins`	or is that too stiff? ton troll if you prefer	[17:35]
kakobrekla	seems like hawaiian troll of men	[17:36]
nubbins`	brb reboot	[17:37]
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nubbins`	46 days uptime on a laptop ;o	[17:38]
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kakobrekla	mine is longer.	[17:38]
ThickAsThieves	heh, Friedcat is covering the 19 shares :)	[17:42]
ThickAsThieves	i got a bailout	[17:44]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you understand correctly.	[17:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23885 @ 0.00086496 = 20.6596 BTC [-] {3}	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	also this is for an article im about to write so you'll see what i want to say by it presently.	[17:44]
ThickAsThieves	that reminds me	[17:45]
ThickAsThieves	i was reading the MPOE statement	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	wait his name is MonTroll <<< inigo montrollya	[17:45]
ThickAsThieves	does the section with the graph basically imply that as you made efforts to CYA on those purchased Puts, the influenced caused a ripple that dropped the exchange rate all around?	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	i didn't think it implies such	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	i thought it outright said it.	[17:46]
ThickAsThieves	ok	[17:46]
ThickAsThieves	sometimes explicit things seem obfuscated to me :)	[17:46]
Namworld	Montroll is an actual family name tho	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	kind-of the point of that article, if you read between the... lines	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	o no wait. not of that article. of some other article.	[17:47]
ThickAsThieves	so a further implication might be, don;t bet too hard against mircea or he'll just move the goal posts?	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	either that or don't fucking read too deep into what mp says and go all fucking nuts just because he has to cover 10k	[17:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00569989 = 0.285 BTC [+]	[17:48]
ThickAsThieves	i see	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	i would say it's becoming a major problem now that people keep trying to outmaneuver me intellectually, and whereas i'm very blunt, they ascribe wallstreet-esque depths of trachery to what i do	[17:49]
ThickAsThieves	that's a big sword you got	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	the result being ocasionally incontrollable deflagrations	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	so let's all simmer down and take mp at his word.	[17:49]
ThickAsThieves	at hi sword	[17:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00559998 = 0.6216 BTC [-]	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	!b 24	[17:50]
assbot	Last 24 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1674360/plain/)	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	anyway, it's ridiculous, just look at the volatility curve for 4-8 feb.	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	it's like V	[17:53]
ThickAsThieves	you just wnat me to spend more trilema credits!	[17:54]
ThickAsThieves	scammar	[17:55]
kakobrekla	how do you think hes gonna get by now, without the mpoe options....	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	^	[17:55]
davout	lol	[17:55]
ThickAsThieves	i've spent like 800 so far	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	not bad	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	i gotta expensify those things	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	probly	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	currently i'm shitting the bitcoin advisor market, because you wouldn't hire anyone to pay him 100x for stupid shit	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	when you could juist read the stuff on trilema and be ahead.	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	somehow BingoBoingo doesn't quite manage to hate me for it, yet.	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	well you are mean and scary enough that anyone that would pay an advisor is probly ignoring you	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	yeah, plenty of rabbits with money all over the forest.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	this happens.	[17:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00086599 = 14.8517 BTC [+]	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	plus they need to get through the irc log as a primer now to even hope to understand what's going on	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	understanding is this fascinating beast, in that it works in parts	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	you don;t have to understand the whole thing to have an actionable understanding.	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	so do inside jokes	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	probly what people dismiss this all as	[18:00]
nubbins`	bayman just bought my bass amp	[18:00]
*	nubbins` dusts off hands	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	finance has always been the inside joke of some old jooz.	[18:00]
ThickAsThieves	those assholes pointing and laughing at shit that isnt even funny!	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, there's going to be a livinbg to be earned in summarizing and translating irc and stuff for vaiours needs.	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	i learned that if i am ever imprisoned i will need to tell them i am jewish in order to maintain veganism	[18:01]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I think of it as reselling Trilema credits at a markup	[18:01]
nubbins`	will they provide you with multivitamins?	[18:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00533325 = 0.1067 BTC [-]	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	thats bs	[18:02]
nubbins`	;D	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	vegans dont require suppliments	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	no one does	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	well no one healthy	[18:02]
*	nubbins` reels in the line	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	unless you're in the habit of swallowing and do it 10 times a week	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	you can't really survive on all vegetals.	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	lies	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	that's the dirty secret of good looking vegan chicks	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	they guzzle da cum.	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	notevenkidding.jpg	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	well i agree that nuts are required for sustenance	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[18:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00533328 = 0.2293 BTC [+] {2}	[18:04]
nubbins`	HEH	[18:04]
nubbins`	that's gold	[18:04]
nubbins`	fun fact: cashews aren't nuts	[18:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15482 @ 0.00086599 = 13.4073 BTC [+]	[18:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00533154 = 0.7997 BTC [-] {5}	[18:07]
Namworld	Looks like a lot of people bought huge amount of goxcoins at 60%-90%	[18:08]
ThickAsThieves	bitcointalk should have better thread mod features, like disallowing posts from new accounts and/or Trust rating requirements	[18:09]
ThickAsThieves	this sock bullshit is ... bullshit	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	10 accounts = 2 doods wanking	[18:10]
ThickAsThieves	Namworld, how many did you buy>	[18:11]
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nubbins`	you got soxxed	[18:12]
peterl	Namworld: and there are people talking about resurecting Gox, can't we just let the pile of crap die now?	[18:12]
Namworld	I sold at 90%	[18:12]
Namworld	10% cut, just after withdrawals were stopped.	[18:12]
peterl	did you get your fiat out?	[18:12]
ThickAsThieves	yeah everyone thinks they can brute force the wallets	[18:13]
ThickAsThieves	i say let em be	[18:13]
Namworld	lol, brute force wallets.	[18:13]
nubbins`	http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/01/146223/using-google-maps-to-intercept-fbi-and-secret-service-calls	[18:14]
ozbot	Using Google Maps To Intercept FBI and Secret Service Calls - Slashdot	[18:14]
ThickAsThieves	there are some serious issues for small businesses and google	[18:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00549996 = 0.22 BTC [+] {3}	[18:15]
ThickAsThieves	random restaurant owner has no clue what to do	[18:15]
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ThickAsThieves	slaves to tripadvisor and shit	[18:16]
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ThickAsThieves	victims of a complaint system masquerading as a reviw	[18:16]
ThickAsThieves	reviews*	[18:16]
ThickAsThieves	then savvy ones buy fake reviews	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	hurting consumer	[18:17]
ThickAsThieves	business RPG	[18:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020285 = 0.2029 BTC [+] {2}	[18:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 243 @ 0.00088164 = 0.2142 BTC [+] {2}	[18:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0213 = 0.2769 BTC [-] {2}	[18:19]
nubbins`	http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/need-a-water-filter-peel-a-tree-branch-0226.html	[18:21]
ozbot	Need a water filter? Peel a tree branch - MIT News Office	[18:21]
nubbins`	won't work for cryptosporidium, but still impressive	[18:22]
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ThickAsThieves	"This is a technology institute. I don't believe there are any communication courses here."	[18:24]
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ThickAsThieves	says so much	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	"This quote from your article aludes to plants having some sort of intelligence and a brain. This is rather disturbing to me coming from such a prestigious campus. This thinking must originate from some primitive caveman type of superstition. Otherwise this is a wonderful article."	[18:25]
asciilifeform	mit, obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	is Vitalik from MIT?	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	hehe http://about.me/vitalik_buterin	[18:26]
nubbins`	heh, commenters are such wet blankets	[18:26]
ThickAsThieves	should have lasers coming out of his eyes	[18:26]
ThickAsThieves	University of Waterloo	[18:27]
kakobrekla	>Full-time Cryptocurrency 2.0 Advocate	[18:27]
kakobrekla	oh my.	[18:27]
ThickAsThieves	yeah the new company line is bitcoin is outdated, havent you heard	[18:27]
ThickAsThieves	so many problemz with it	[18:28]
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ThickAsThieves	like i dont own any	[18:28]
ThickAsThieves	etc	[18:28]
kakobrekla	mhm	[18:28]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/st-john-s-man-living-in-shed-after-booted-out-of-housing-1.2555839	[18:28]
ozbot	St. John's man living in shed after booted out of housing - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News	[18:28]
nubbins`	a particularly insightful comment: "another sensational story by the CBC over dramatising as usual .....and indeed scrapping the bottom of the barrel ...give us a justin bieber story please"	[18:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00087078 = 8.3987 BTC [+]	[18:29]
ThickAsThieves	"What a heart wrenching one sided story."	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[18:30]
nubbins`	cbc comments, in particular, are fucking brutal	[18:30]
nubbins`	that fucking dickhead "froglips" comments on every. single. story.	[18:31]
nubbins`	that said, this is a ridiculous excuse of a news story	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	from the lips of frogs	[18:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.05005714 = 1.4016 BTC [-] {2}	[18:32]
chetty	Upper house to demand recall of Moscow ambassador to U.S.	[18:32]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-putin-gets-parliamentary-approval-for-military-use-1.2556228	[18:33]
ozbot	Ukraine crisis: Putin gets parliamentary approval for military use - World - CBC News	[18:33]
nubbins`	eep	[18:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00549999 = 0.154 BTC [+]	[18:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2}	[18:37]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: love the weasel man in that piece	[18:37]
asciilifeform	there is no grey	[18:37]
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nubbins`	ukraine or homeless guy?	[18:38]
ThickAsThieves	http://imgur.com/4lPPqXa	[18:38]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[18:38]
asciilifeform	http://thepolitikalblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ukraine-linguistic-division.jpg	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/pro-idiotas-which-obviously-means-people-who-have-ideas-ie-idiots/	[18:41]
ozbot	Pro idiotas, which obviously means, people who have ideas. Ie, idiots. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce	[18:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02001759 = 0.4004 BTC [-] {6}	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	like i dont own any <<< lol	[18:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00530003 = 0.2915 BTC [-]	[18:42]
nubbins`	TBF some guy on the street offers me a joint, i say yes	[18:43]
nubbins`	but that's just because i live where i do	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	not as a 9yo girl	[18:43]
nubbins`	as a 9yo girl, i say i'm 9 and what is this	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	"can i suck your c0k instead ?"	[18:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00522431 = 1.2173 BTC [-] {4}	[18:44]
nubbins`	maybe not	[18:45]
nubbins`	hard to say	[18:45]
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ThickAsThieves	i must admit i almost bought shares in bourse cuz jurov	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	but upon reading it i couldbnt justify	[18:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051007 = 0.5101 BTC [-] {4}	[18:45]
nubbins`	"But my curren PC is old and noise and it waking up wife and children when I working at night" heh	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	so you can think with head. congratulations, you should be on -assets.	[18:45]
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nubbins`	sounds like he needs a new fan, not a new macbook pro	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	he cant open it and clean it	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	lest he voids the warranty	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	i should have linked him to my epic pics of me fixing laptop board in mexico hotel room, with solder shavings, safety pin and lighter.	[18:47]
wao-ender	I didnt buy when I read their prospectus..	[18:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020499 = 0.205 BTC [+]	[18:47]
nubbins`	omg guise i've been selected for a free cruise to the bahamas!	[18:47]
nubbins`	all i need to do is press 1 now	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	say yes	[18:48]
nubbins`	or press 9 to decline	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	(because of where you happen to live)	[18:48]
nubbins`	if this woman approached me on the street, sure	[18:48]
nubbins`	long-distance phone call, nope	[18:48]
nubbins`	i don't take drugs from strangers over the phone either ;(	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	you woudn't download a joint ?	[18:49]
asciilifeform	press 'FO' instead.	[18:49]
asciilifeform	http://www.beatriceco.com/bti/porticus/bell/images/66dial6c_reduced_size.jpg	[18:49]
nubbins`	if only i could	[18:49]
nubbins`	well, that's not entirely honest	[18:49]
nubbins`	you can kind of download a joint	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	3d printed joints	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	on blotter paper.	[18:49]
nubbins`	i need to start producing blotter art.	[18:49]
nubbins`	money in that	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	well maybe not exactly money...	[18:50]
nubbins`	http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=blotter+art	[18:50]
ozbot	blotter art \| eBay	[18:50]
nubbins`	not set up to perforate paper tho	[18:51]
ThickAsThieves	"This is not going to be my life’s work." nice pitch	[18:51]
nubbins`	although tbf the perforated stuff doesn't really make the rounds anymore	[18:51]
nubbins`	tat, inorite?	[18:51]
ThickAsThieves	he basically says "I am useless" over and over	[18:51]
nubbins`	i am useless, pay me	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves part of the problem, of course, is epitomized in the word for barbarian	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	the greek idea was that "these people say nothing meaningful, may as well be sheep, bar bar"	[18:52]
nubbins`	"Well, so far I have an incorporated company that I own 100% of"	[18:52]
nubbins`	lel	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	obviously this isn't exactly true.	[18:52]
nubbins`	"well so far i've spent a hundred dollars"	[18:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0200012 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[18:52]
ThickAsThieves	i wonder if this is the same guy who emailed me a few days ago	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	it's not the quantum computing emulated on z80s if you mwan that one	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	that's a differnet, and much more sordid sort of nut.	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	"Dear TAT,	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	I am looking to do a fund raise for my business I would like to get your feedback on the best strategy to do so and the best way to reach the market.	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	Kr,	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	Malcolm O"	[18:54]
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ThickAsThieves	that's the whole email	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	wait, were you the recipient of the	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	o no, that was pankkake	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	with the promoting of BEKs.	[18:54]
ThickAsThieves	I tell him to get a clue in kinder words, he replies "im sorry im a bit confused are u saying if i have the business plan / interesting offering you can't help me or you can ?"	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/	[18:56]
ozbot	A deal can be anything. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	talking of self-enforcing contracts	[18:56]
ThickAsThieves	no more replies from me	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	the mjr_ way : allign the fucking incentives.	[18:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02000001 = 0.2 BTC [-]	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.05109999 = 0.511 BTC [+] {4}	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves any idea what "kr," is supposed to be ?	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+] {2}	[18:58]
ThickAsThieves	kind regards	[18:58]
ThickAsThieves	i assime	[18:58]
Duffer1	no offer of $$ for your expertise?	[18:58]
ThickAsThieves	that wouldnt be appropriate anyway	[18:58]
peterl	or better, btc for expertise?	[18:58]
ThickAsThieves	i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all	[18:59]
peterl	maybe you should respond with a "I charge X btc for this type of advise"?	[18:59]
ThickAsThieves	nah	[18:59]
ThickAsThieves	i'm done helping asshole	[18:59]
ThickAsThieves	s	[18:59]
ThickAsThieves	at this point "customer" is a curse word to me	[18:59]
peterl	maybe he should open a forum thread, plenty of advise there ...	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.31766783 BTC to 3`517 shares, 65899 satoshi per share	[19:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.00086402 = 8.2332 BTC [-] {2}	[19:00]
ThickAsThieves	from my first job through my whole life, i've observed customers thinking they are entitled and more experienced at the task they are paying for	[19:01]
ThickAsThieves	can't take it anymore	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	o ic	[19:02]
ThickAsThieves	mp stahp linking romanian articles :(	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	peterl i think he actually has it superbly stated. "i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all"	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves the rabi one i sfucking great.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	someone should translate that thing.	[19:03]
nubbins`	[13:28:15] <@Anduck> I'm selling a 10BTC Casascius silver coin for 30 BTC. Pm me if you want to buy it.	[19:04]
nubbins`	:(	[19:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[19:05]
Anduck	nubbins`: want to buy it	[19:05]
Anduck	??	[19:05]
peterl	that is a heck of a markup for a coin	[19:05]
nubbins`	^	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	no he just wants to rage	[19:05]
peterl	the silver is what, 0.1 btc?	[19:06]
Anduck	10 BTC	[19:06]
nubbins`	mp has it	[19:06]
nubbins`	coin scalpers ;(	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	i doubt you can make a coin out of 60 dollars' worth of silver	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	4oz coins ftw	[19:06]
ThickAsThieves	can't i just buy a blank and put 10btc on it?	[19:06]
peterl	oh, sorry, mental math fail	[19:06]
nubbins`	http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-silver-1-kilogram-coin-maple-leaf-forever-mintage-600-2013-prod1680018	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves this is numismatics not engineering	[19:07]
ozbot	Fine Silver 1 kilogram Coin - Maple Leaf Forever - Mintage: 600 (2013)	[19:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00086242 = 7.6324 BTC [-]	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` didn't you canuk kooks make a 1 ton gold coin too ?	[19:07]
nubbins`	the bizarre part of all this is that you turned down an offer of 25btc	[19:07]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, we have a nice mint and we're not afraid to use it :D	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	make solid wheels out of the stuffs	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	all rappers beeline to canada mint	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	TyreCoin	[19:08]
peterl	the alt-coin of the future! amazing!	[19:08]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:08]
nubbins`	http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/learn/million-dollar-coin-1600006#.UxIUAvRdVro	[19:08]
ozbot	Royal Canadian Mint Million Dollar Coin (2007)	[19:08]
nubbins`	100kg	[19:08]
nubbins`	99999 fine	[19:08]
peterl	I love assbot :)	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	fancy	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	assamazing bot!	[19:08]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[19:08]
nubbins`	let me find a good quote	[19:10]
nubbins`	speaking of the mint	[19:10]
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Duffer1	30btc?! good lord you could probably bribe casc to do a one off perfect replica for half that	[19:12]
Duffer1	brb	[19:12]
wao-ender	interesting http://pando.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	nice link!	[19:12]
nubbins`	[Former Liberal cabinet minister David] Dingwall was defending his right to a hefty severance package after stepping down from a six-figure salary as head of the Canadian Mint. His departure, which some say was forced, came after revelations surfaced about ... questionable expense claims"	[19:12]
nubbins`	Dingwall's proclamation to a parliamentary committee: "I am entitled to my entitlements!"	[19:13]
ThickAsThieves	nice garlic logo!	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08625 = 0.345 BTC [+] {2}	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+]	[19:13]
nubbins`	Duffer1: not a funded one ;D	[19:13]
Duffer1	depends if he has an unsold priv key to attach to it...	[19:13]
nubbins`	anyway, Dingwall turned the mint from a black hole into a very profitable endeavor	[19:14]
nubbins`	he was, indeed, entitled to his entitlements	[19:14]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` this is quite exactly why they fight his entitlements.	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	someone not deserving it they could stand, but someone who earned it they could never tolerate.	[19:16]
nubbins`	his expense claims turned out to be perfectly reasonable, in the meantime	[19:17]
nubbins`	it's not like he was a CANADIAN SENATOR or anything :D	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	wao-ender the best part about the pando link, by the way, is how cheap it all was	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	500k yearly budget, srsly ?	[19:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00086321 = 9.5816 BTC [+]	[19:18]
wao-ender	mircea_popescu: cheaper than invasion.	[19:19]
ThickAsThieves	Buffet: 'America’s best days lie ahead.'	[19:20]
ThickAsThieves	trolling in his last days	[19:20]
Duffer1	that must be why he bought recession proof heinz	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	was pretty epic that yeah lol	[19:21]
wao-ender	I like these US soft-skills.	[19:21]
nubbins`	so a friend of mine listens to this corny christian radio station that plays classical music	[19:21]
ThickAsThieves	see this is why i hate customers, after fixing this AM share mixup: "For this event, thank you very much for your cooperation.At the same time,As the responsible company, I hope you don't appear again similar mistakes !"	[19:22]
nubbins`	from earlier today: "so there's wind out there & that, and some roads are closed. not too warm out."	[19:22]
nubbins`	THANKS FOR THE UPDATE	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	wao-ender except if you dig into it, it was all soviets.	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	ex kgb's "languages" programme alumni	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves I hope you have learned your lesson son!	[19:23]
ThickAsThieves	yep, and the rub is this service is arguably provided for free	[19:23]
ThickAsThieves	free service brings much free advice	[19:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00086321 = 0.1476 BTC [+]	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	the community!	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	is buffet going senile?	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	“Woody Allen stated the general idea when he said: ‘The advantage of being bi-sexual is that it doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night.’ Similarly, our appetite for either operating businesses or passive investments doubles our chances of finding sensible uses for our endless gusher of cash.”	[19:25]
kakobrekla	hehe	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	this is a parody ?	[19:26]
kakobrekla	whats wrong with that	[19:26]
ThickAsThieves	Warren Buffett once said, “Diversification is protection against ignorance, it makes little sense for those who know what they’re doing.”	[19:26]
ThickAsThieves	no it's real	[19:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.049125 = 0.1965 BTC [-] {3}	[19:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.085875 = 0.3435 BTC [-] {3}	[19:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-] {2}	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSgpHQO-J4#t=101	[19:27]
ozbot	Seinfeld Clip - Kramer's Rickshaw Adventure - YouTube	[19:27]
ThickAsThieves	maybe he's giving cryptic hints to those that know him better	[19:27]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves now that you've been here you cant stop thinking everyone's on his own -assets huh ?	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	"Get out now, I've only got days left"	[19:28]
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ThickAsThieves	well me and Occam are like this	[19:28]
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ThickAsThieves	you still remind me of him though	[19:29]
ThickAsThieves	“I must again confess that their investments outperformed mine. (Charlie says I should add “by a lot.”) If such humiliating comparisons continue, I’ll have no choice but to cease talking about them.”	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	you have certainly said something very similar in trilema	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	i forget about what	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	well yeah, but really it's neither me or him, it's just british.	[19:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	ah	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	which neither of you are	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	a certain dry.	[19:31]
nubbins`	"Generally, for your own sake, you should spend most of your time not doing what you want to do, and especially so if you’re young."	[19:31]
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nubbins`	well, at least i did that right	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	that's a tricky statement	[19:32]
ThickAsThieves	can be taken the wrong way easily	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	it'd better be	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	it was on trilema after all.	[19:32]
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ThickAsThieves	especially by a kid	[19:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}	[19:32]
ThickAsThieves	all the kids reading trilema, ohnoes!	[19:33]
nubbins`	heh.	[19:33]
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nubbins`	well, if kids didn't take things the wrong way they wouldn't be kids	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	let them take it the wrong way, what.	[19:33]
nubbins`	i take that statement more as retrospective affirmation than an instruction	[19:33]
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ThickAsThieves	Buffet insulting his successor “Ajit’s mind is an idea factory that is always looking for more lines of business he can add to his current assortment.”	[19:34]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves usure that's successor ?	[19:39]
nubbins`	asciilifeform, http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/28/1937251/broadcom-releases-source-for-graphics-stack-raspberry-pi-sets-bounty-for-port	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	not officially	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	said to be possibly	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	yeah. i think it's moire for the political press than anything	[19:41]
mircea_popescu	buffett is disgustingly libertard in his senile age.	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform btw u saw that pando link ?	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	"Of the many problems that poses, none is more serious than the fact that Omidyar now has the only two people with exclusive access to the complete Snowden NSA cache, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. Somehow, the same billionaire who co-financed the “coup” in Ukraine with USAID, also has exclusive access to the NSA secrets—and very few in the independent media dare voice a skeptical word about it."	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	that's not actually correct, but w/e.	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	mark ames is doing work.	[19:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00020338 = 0.2441 BTC [+] {3}	[19:50]
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nubbins`	"how often do you replace your running shoes?" -wife to roommate	[19:53]
nubbins`	stay tuned for answer	[19:53]
nubbins`	"i don't scuff, so i'd say about two months a pair"	[19:54]
nubbins`	:0	[19:54]
nubbins`	runners	[19:54]
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mircea_popescu	this went over my head.	[19:54]
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nubbins`	the roommate runs as a pastime	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	uh	[19:54]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck then ?	[19:55]
nubbins`	foot races, etc	[19:55]
nubbins`	i guess scuffers get less than two months out of a pair	[19:55]
mircea_popescu	if my passtimes required me to buy shoes 6 times a year i'd be pretty distraught	[19:55]
nubbins`	ehh, there are costlier pastimes	[19:56]
nubbins`	drinking, say	[19:56]
nubbins`	comic books	[19:56]
nubbins`	etc	[19:56]
nubbins`	it's funny, he actually takes a marker and writes the date of first use on the back of the heels	[19:56]
jurov	well, pro runners use very light and soft shoes, no wonder they wear off quickly	[19:56]
nubbins`	i've known people to do this to packs of cigarette papers, but not shoes	[19:56]
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mircea_popescu	i guess i't just buy 24 pairs at a time	[19:57]
nubbins`	jurov, i picked up one of his shoes once, with eyes closed you'd almost never know you were holding anything	[19:57]
mircea_popescu	currently i buy 2-3 of shoes i like,	[19:57]
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mircea_popescu	which i suppose reflects the normal lifetime of fucking leather shoes.	[19:57]
nubbins`	yeah, he buys 2-3 pairs at a time	[19:57]
BingoBoingo	http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html	[19:59]
ozbot	27 killed in China railway attack - CNN.com	[19:59]
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nubbins`	huh, new balance makes all their shoes in the US and UK	[19:59]
mircea_popescu	"The NFL's been handing out traumatic brain injuries for decades, but the moment Disney decided it needed the women that was the end of lockerroom hijinx. But until it completes the NFL's rebranding as a kinder, bully-free, concussionless game, complete with engagement rings and Us Weekly's "Ten Hunkiest White Or Articulate Quarterbacks", it's going to have to keep broadcasting Nashville. "	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	bwahahaha	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you see, sports ARE dead. cause they're trying to get women into the audience.	[20:00]
nubbins`	white or articulare	[20:00]
nubbins`	*articulate	[20:00]
nubbins`	ah, my sides	[20:00]
mircea_popescu	i guess you're white huh ?	[20:01]
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nubbins`	well i'm hardly articulate	[20:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00087159 = 11.1564 BTC [+] {3}	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	("You know, you could use an editor." You could use some free association, it may help you see unconscious connections which drive your life. "I find that weed helps." Amateur.)	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	person breaks fucking article to insert paranthetical diorama	[20:02]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well football at the professional level it seems is.	[20:02]
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nubbins`	see, the guy offering you a joint is just trying to make you a better writer	[20:03]
nubbins`	anyway, i gotta go	[20:03]
nubbins`	peace	[20:03]
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benkay	mystical bitcoin!	[20:07]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82o2fLL3C1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[20:07]
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BingoBoingo	The NFL is trying to watch women the wrong way, anyways. Most of the women and girls I know favor this guy over the "All American" sort https://www.google.com/search?q=yadier+molina+tattoo&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=kyp&channel=fs&tbm=isch&imgil=_i-QdhSNVYsuXM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcTvSwzEK9Oe49mbzNu6AKJERZyAJuRbPbTzh2mITclXb6EW64AUDw%253B698%253B576%253BaQkQtdrU-z	[20:09]
BingoBoingo	pZUM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fclubtattoo.com%25252Fgallery%25252Fcelebrities%25252F&source=iu&usg=__yvyknxcx5w2FKbwWeA75o56rpIQ%3D&sa=X&ei=wSESU8wGk7jIAda2gYAJ&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAA&biw=1301&bih=678#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=_i-QdhSNVYsuXM%253A%3BaQkQtdrU-zpZUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fclubtattoo.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2012%252F03%252Fyadier-molina-st.-louis-cardinal-catcher.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fclubtattoo.com%252Fgallery%2	[20:09]
BingoBoingo	52Fcelebrities%252F%3B698%3B576	[20:09]
benkay	BingoBoingo: that url's going to need a pastebin	[20:10]
BingoBoingo	benkay: http://clubtattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yadier-molina-st.-louis-cardinal-catcher.jpg	[20:10]
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benkay	that's the new all american as far as this generation of babes are concerned, B	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	babes = what ? 17yos ? 22yos ?	[20:12]
benkay	well 'this generation' would be the agerange boss	[20:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00087158 = 4.7937 BTC [-]	[20:13]
benkay	'babes' is just a personal generic for wimmins	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	guy looks kinda perennial to me tbh.	[20:13]
benkay	neck tattoos and all	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	that much different from say swayze ?	[20:13]
benkay	?	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	a, that's important ?	[20:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10926 @ 0.00087365 = 9.5455 BTC [+]	[20:14]
benkay	to a nation that favors the image over the substance maybe	[20:14]
benkay	you're the anthropologist tho	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	i guess clearly i'm not a woman.	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	i suppose pigeons can readily distinguish male from female pigeons. i can not.	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82nxm2tHJ1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg lets to pics instead.	[20:15]
BingoBoingo	Neck tattoos, arm tattoos, probably less visible tattoos. Still, he hit .319 last year	[20:15]
benkay	dude on the left with the fag	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	so which'd be the yadier-molina-est guy in that pic ?	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	let's play "help evil ai MP infiltrate human society", a society game.	[20:16]
benkay	what's the -est? puerto rican?	[20:17]
benkay	ambiguous like bitcoin price	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	-est wants to mean most like.	[20:17]
benkay	but on which axis/es?	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	also, you can readily guess that shot is in europe : women smile at naked girl walking down the street.	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	benkay now how would i know.	[20:18]
BingoBoingo	blue shirt bald head near the van	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	not short sleeved mid dork /	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	i guess george really has it, baldness is now in style.	[20:19]
benkay	BingoBoingo: 'cause he's dark?	[20:19]
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BingoBoingo	benkay: More cause he looks like he is going to stab someone of they obstruct his view of dat ass	[20:20]
benkay	give us another one, mi	[20:21]
benkay	mircea_popescu:	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ny7nOWP1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg	[20:21]
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BingoBoingo	Prolly the guy on the tv	[20:24]
benkay	HAW	[20:24]
benkay	SO THESE MYSTICAL BITCOINS	[20:24]
benkay	spring is for teh lulz	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82nxwBn5g1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg ?	[20:25]
benkay	fuck is on her head?	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	there's a joke that goes with that picture.	[20:26]
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mircea_popescu	judge's wife, a tall beautiful woman is allegedly raped in a phone booth	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	by a midget.	[20:26]
ThickAsThieves	she's wearing a nigerian hat	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	who's at most tall enough to stick his nose in her snatch	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	at trial they can't quite establish HOW he'd have done it, so in spite of all the scandal guy walks free.	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	judge buys the guy drinks and asks him to pls tell him wtf.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	so the midget tells him : with the pot, yo.	[20:27]
mircea_popescu	i put a pot on her head and fucked her holding the handles.	[20:27]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[20:27]
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mircea_popescu	in retrospect, perhaps one of the more offensive romanian jokes out there.	[20:28]
benkay	http://instantrimshot.com/	[20:28]
ozbot	Welcome to Instant Rimshot	[20:28]
benkay	oh come now, i want to hear actually offensive romanian jokes now	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	sorry.	[20:29]
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mircea_popescu	benkay https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/439831247175835648	[20:35]
mircea_popescu	there's a start.	[20:35]
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ThickAsThieves	irlol	[20:38]
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mircea_popescu	However, not all women are the target demo of Randi's lip synching, the CEO of General Dynamics is a woman, I think she has a higher security clearance than the entire Senate, and I know for a fact she builds alien spaceships, why not interview her about how she uses social media to promote her brand and make connections and break ceilings? Because there's no Like button for hard work or triple integrals, which is do	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	ubly interesting because calculus was invented to make hard work easier. "I just don't get math." Can't do math if you weren't taught to think logically, and logic is tough on kids' self esteems and makes them way less submissive, easier just to put on a video.	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty spot-on, i do think phebe novakovic has moar clearance than most of the senate.	[20:43]
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Jere_Jones	I'm having trouble with a word in mp's pro-idiotas article. "intraductibility"	[20:48]
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Jere_Jones	What does it mean? Best I can find is that it is a french-ish word meaning "un-translate-able".	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	that, pretty much, with a twist of intractability.	[20:50]
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Jere_Jones	"A complex thing that can not be translated"?	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	a thing that can't be translated due its complexity.	[20:51]
Jere_Jones	Ah	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	your wife'll never be able to explain to you WHY she loves you,	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	not because she doesn't nor because you're an idiot	[20:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088186 = 0.1764 BTC [+]	[20:51]
mircea_popescu	but because... well... it's hers.	[20:52]
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Jere_Jones	Why she loves me is intraductible. <- Correct usage?	[20:53]
Jere_Jones	Except for the spelling	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	yeah :p	[20:54]
Jere_Jones	Thanks	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	seems like an easy target for "something so absract it doesn't exist"	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	course it doesn't exist.	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	until someone loses an eye.	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	well i always say, if it's that complicated, you're solving the wrong problem	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	it's just a condiment, really.	[20:55]
benkay	"mmm! this problem has a lovely hint of complexity."	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	if you never meet such complexity you're not doing a too good job of thnking	[20:56]
Jere_Jones	Like ketch-urd?	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	not quite what i mean by it	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	just sometimes beating your head against well is merely that	[20:56]
ThickAsThieves	wall*	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	a that for sure.	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	but you know, suppose you didn't for whatever reason have the ability to evaluate content.	[20:57]
ThickAsThieves	still applies i guess	[20:57]
ThickAsThieves	solving the wrong problem, cuz incapable	[20:58]
ThickAsThieves	solve simpler ones first	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	like you're an alien from a different herbertian space.	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	you STILL can distinguish pulp books from good books	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	by the criterion that "it is pulp all which includes no intraducible complexity"	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	you don't actally need to be able to at all understand what they say for this purpose.	[20:58]
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ThickAsThieves	are all things already experienced thus pulp?	[21:00]
ThickAsThieves	no i guess not	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	notrly. just bad retellings of them	[21:01]
ThickAsThieves	all things masterd are	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	kinda what pulp is, actually. "a bad retelling of history"	[21:01]
benkay	bitcoinpulp.org	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	Jere_Jones da fuck is ketch-urd ?	[21:04]
benkay	ketch-ard	[21:04]
Jere_Jones	ketchup and mustard mixed together	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	o o that.	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	incidentally : urda is a muchly loved romanian soft cheese	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	which i definitely recomend everyone tries.	[21:05]
kakobrekla	ketchurd? id prefer majvar.	[21:05]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla вурда	[21:06]
mircea_popescu	sort-of ricotta-ish	[21:06]
kakobrekla	aha	[21:06]
ThickAsThieves	i used to like feta some, dry and salty	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	feta is great	[21:08]
mircea_popescu	but the greek stuff.	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	also super sharp stuff	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	mimouette etc	[21:08]
ThickAsThieves	mimolette*	[21:09]
davout	you guys are all the jon snows of cheese	[21:10]
mircea_popescu	is that a good thing ?	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	no idea	[21:10]
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ThickAsThieves	out in the cold?	[21:10]
davout	you know nothing	[21:10]
davout	such fail	[21:10]
ThickAsThieves	well we know what we like so far	[21:11]
ThickAsThieves	what more can you ask for	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	eh gtfo, romanian cheeze rules!	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	smelly french cheezperialistsa	[21:11]
davout	haha	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	if it weren't for camembert we wouldn't even be on speaking terms	[21:11]
ThickAsThieves	not like we're in france, where every corner of the body produces exotic cheeses	[21:11]
kakobrekla	i can attest ro cheese is not bad	[21:12]
davout	ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lputqogvqI	[21:12]
davout	the commercial for the famous french "dick cheese"	[21:12]
davout	aka "fromage de bite"	[21:13]
ThickAsThieves	nasty lol	[21:13]
ThickAsThieves	they all have dick heads too	[21:13]
KRS-One	Richard Cranium?	[21:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 196 @ 0.00055056 = 0.1079 BTC [-]	[21:15]
ThickAsThieves	i haz idea	[21:16]
benkay	it sucks	[21:16]
kakobrekla	it blows	[21:16]
ThickAsThieves	do a tell-all post about how we discovered what happened to Gox coins	[21:16]
ThickAsThieves	all pointing to altcoin chain	[21:16]
ThickAsThieves	as publicity stunt	[21:16]
kakobrekla	do we have 750k atc?	[21:17]
ThickAsThieves	could muster surely	[21:17]
jurov	lol, 800k btc sent to atc wallet by mistake?	[21:17]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[21:17]
ThickAsThieves	advice everyone to make ATC wallets	[21:17]
ThickAsThieves	to unlock the keys	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	advise!	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	yes	[21:18]
jurov	bitcoin foundation was too ashamed to admit itis possible	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	you guys teached me teh IRC speak	[21:18]
ThickAsThieves	dont make me change now	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin foundation come out with a BFL statement yet ?	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	or did their murk lawyer advise they;'re not to discuss two major scams the same week	[21:20]
kakobrekla	what bfl statement?	[21:20]
ThickAsThieves	pulp http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/tech/innovation/dogecoin-cryptocurrency-tech-irpt/	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you know, all about how bfl is a serious biznis that has the foundation's seal of approval.	[21:21]
ThickAsThieves	i didnt learn about how the Alydian thing panned out til yesterday	[21:21]
kakobrekla	but what did bfl do this time around?	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla seen their site recently ?	[21:21]
kakobrekla	no	[21:21]
ThickAsThieves	wow they are still selling preorders of those PCI cards	[21:22]
ThickAsThieves	pure evil	[21:22]
kakobrekla	as expected	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	"Butterfly Labs has shipped more ASIC products than all competitors combined"	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	haha it has a James Gibson testimonial	[21:23]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla o it's back ?	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	"As a fairly early Bitcoin adopter and institutional miner, the choice for mining hardware comes down to innovation. Who is going to have the experience and best technology going forward to keep me ahead of the curve? The fact that BFL has a proven chip design, combined with their innovations in form factor and node size means that they will be hard to beat moving forward."	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	James Gibson - GigaVPS	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	they had deleted it earlier.	[21:23]
kakobrekla	deleted the website?	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	"institutional miner"	[21:24]
kakobrekla	O_o	[21:24]
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kakobrekla	yes, 16 year old scammer kiddo is also institution.	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z9djc/where_did_butterflylabs_go/	[21:26]
ozbot	Where did ButterflyLabs go? : Bitcoin	[21:26]
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kakobrekla	to hang out with pirate in hawaii	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	"Site is back. Panic over."	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	logically.	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	for instance if my roof disappeared and then came back	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	i'd be all like "o... ok"	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	roofs do that.	[21:28]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's funny, too. coinlab nao has moneyz to seed start-ups	[21:29]
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ThickAsThieves	"Alydian doesn't have employees or an office, but it reimburses CoinLab for the work it has done in the mining process."	[21:30]
ThickAsThieves	"What I see is a debtor that has absolutely zero existence," Judge Overstreet said. "I want to make sure that when we do this world-wide advertising [to promote an auction] we are not misrepresenting to the world what we have to sell, because the integrity of the bankruptcy process is at stake."	[21:30]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[21:30]
ThickAsThieves	only Coinlab could have someone worrying about the "integrity" of bankruptcy	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	"I'm not satisfied that there isn't some hiding of information," she said.	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	ythink?	[21:31]
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mircea_popescu	meanwhile, “We are part of a transformation of Bitcoin mining,” said Hans Olsen, CEO of Alydian. “Alydian has developed an enterprise-scale Bitcoin	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	they ended up paying off their biggest unhappy customer	[21:31]
ThickAsThieves	fuck everyone else	[21:32]
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ThickAsThieves	if yer gonna support scammers, at least have a big enough wallet for a lawyer i guess	[21:32]
ninjashogun	hi everyone	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	except people with large wallets do not want to support scammers.	[21:33]
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mircea_popescu	well, maybe with the exception of government	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	the jury's still out on that one.	[21:33]
ThickAsThieves	so it's really a lesson for scammers, quantity over quality	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	defo.	[21:34]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell copumpkin incidentally, you ever read http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/01/randi_zuckerberg.html ?	[21:37]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	and i guess that goes for cads too	[21:37]
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BingoBoingo	"Viral" content at work http://speakingofresearch.com/2014/02/27/fact-into-fiction-why-context-matters-with-animal-images/	[21:49]
KRS-One	lol gainesville sun..i used to live in gainesville..quite the college party town. i almost stayed there living the life.	[21:50]
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benkay	showing a baby picture to a man is an aggressive act because it demands a reaction, you showing him a picture of your baby is entirely for your benefit and not at all for his, it is a dare, in much the same way as a woman on a first date telling you she doesn't play games is a dare, a dare you shouldn't take, trust me on this, overpay the check in cash and run.	[21:53]
ThickAsThieves	benkay only dates WoW sluts	[21:56]
BingoBoingo	This is prolly my favorite last psychiatrist post http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html	[21:59]
KRS-One	haha	[21:59]
benkay	nah i only date women who cook	[21:59]
KRS-One	.bait	[21:59]
ozbot	http://25.media.tumblr.com/9c8d5e766c4ea7ebb08889761a1ec966/tumblr_mn3fmelpxY1r3yc8oo1_1280.jpg	[21:59]
KRS-One	Mmmm	[21:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 705 @ 0.00086234 = 0.6079 BTC [-]	[22:03]
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mircea_popescu	nah i only date women with cock << wut ?!	[22:11]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2358 @ 0.00085998 = 2.0278 BTC [-]	[22:13]
ThickAsThieves	how else can he "date" them, must count the rings!	[22:15]
ThickAsThieves	no good deed... http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/01/284397588/creation-museum-bill-nye-debate-sparked-funding-miracle	[22:17]
ThickAsThieves	give an idiot the time, and he takes the whole damn day	[22:17]
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BingoBoingo	The thing about science/bitcoin/whatever is people can believe whatever they want, while reality generally doesn't give a shit.	[22:19]
ThickAsThieves	well i'd rather see that money go to netflix subsciptions or whatever the hell else it may have gone to instead	[22:20]
ThickAsThieves	but at least theyre keeping it in the family...	[22:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-] {2}	[22:22]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves of course, none of it has anything to do with miracles or nye or the debate or anything.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	the us is simply awash in newly printed dollars.	[22:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.005489 = 0.1921 BTC [+]	[22:27]
mircea_popescu	sooo... kraken suspends all usd deposits.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	that lasted long.	[22:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29625 @ 0.00085973 = 25.4695 BTC [-] {2}	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488669.0;all << pretty lulzy cryptoscam drama	[22:30]
ozbot	WARNING Cryptostocks.com INVESTORS SECURITY FLAW	[22:30]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491283.msg5452146#msg5452146	[22:39]
ozbot	Roger Ver, bless him, tells that Gox is going bankrupt	[22:39]
mircea_popescu	should be interesting to see how this goes.	[22:40]
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mircea_popescu	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhnJABJCMAAwZ1b.png:large << the us health system in ten thousand words	[22:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04966666 = 0.149 BTC [+] {2}	[22:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.086999 = 0.174 BTC [+] {2}	[23:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]	[23:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04890001 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {3}	[23:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.04780287 = 0.5736 BTC [-] {4}	[23:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04706874 = 0.3765 BTC [-] {3}	[23:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04628927 = 0.648 BTC [-] {4}	[23:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.04516153 = 0.5871 BTC [-] {2}	[23:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60469 @ 0.00085692 = 51.8171 BTC [-] {4}	[23:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00084325 = 0.1256 BTC [-]	[23:31]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0008424 = 16.848 BTC [-]	[23:32]
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kakobrekla	seems thermos does not want to reply to my ban complaint	[23:33]
kakobrekla	cant even buy my way out of this one it seems	[23:33]
deadweasel	you got rebanned? who won the pool?	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	o shit we had a pool didn't we	[23:33]
kakobrekla	whut?	[23:33]
deadweasel	i'm not sure it made it out of suggestion stage, but the logs will tell	[23:34]
kakobrekla	i dont recall making any votes	[23:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008424 = 4.212 BTC [-]	[23:34]
kakobrekla	or bets	[23:34]
kakobrekla	or anything	[23:34]
mircea_popescu	we had the desire to have a pool ?	[23:34]
deadweasel	possibly.	[23:35]
mircea_popescu	so berkshire just had its 4th worst year in a 48 year history	[23:36]
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mircea_popescu	while simultaneously making 18.2%, which is sorta midway (average returns 19.7%) in nominal terms	[23:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.09788314 = 0.2936 BTC [+]	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	the difference being that s&p made 32.4%, which is like... 3x averages over the period.	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	clearly the us has no inflationary problem at all.	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	it's just that 20% a year doesn'tmanage to keep up with inflation, that's all.	[23:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00055805 = 0.5581 BTC [+] {10}	[23:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [-]	[23:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00084325 = 5.482 BTC [+]	[23:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04318768 = 0.691 BTC [-] {3}	[23:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.04297826 = 0.9885 BTC [-] {3}	[23:45]
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Duffer1	lol NATO what the fuck on earth could they possibly do...	[23:51]
Duffer1	nato is exactly what i'd imagine a reddit army to look like	[23:51]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: huh? I used the exact same pubkey the first time I signed up (I even forwarded my original email) and it worked for over a year!	[23:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0415 = 1.245 BTC [-] {3}	[23:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04052687 = 0.6484 BTC [-] {2}	[23:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.60927987 = 11.5763 BTC [+] {11}	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin hm, i guess needs a closer look this.	[23:54]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.615 BTC [+]	[23:55]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I can try re-exporting it from my keychain and send you that. I just repeated the original email this past time	[23:56]
copumpkin	let me do that, in case the copy and paste corrupted it somehow	[23:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06999998 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	turns out it did. lots of html cruft	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	that's why it choked.	[23:57]
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mircea_popescu	send a clean version will you	[23:57]
copumpkin	doing it now :) sorry!	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	somehow it didn't occur to me to check for earlier.	[23:58]
copumpkin	hmm, I should probably just make it plain text	[23:58]
copumpkin	oh well, if this one breaks too I'll do that	[23:58]
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