Forum logs for 28 Dec 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov neither their requested rates [00:00]
Bugpowder OK what does this mean then? [00:00]
Bugpowder MPBOR valid 30 November through 28 December: 9.9%. [00:00]
jurov dunno where mpbor is actually used. maybe for margin? [00:01]
jurov when mpex paid interest, mpbor was used as a basis [00:01]
jurov mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us? [00:02]
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smickles I know it's at least used to determin how much of the mpoebot profits go to the bondholders, and how much of their principal is returned to them if they bid too high [00:03]
jurov yes, but it is computed every month in the end when options expire and then not used for anything else? [00:04]
smickles I would venture to guess that it does influence the margin cost somehow too [00:06]
smickles and the B-S 'risk free rate' [00:06]
jurov btw, one can have a peek to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR as to how much capital was provided by bondholders. but requested rates are between them and mircea. [00:06]
smickles jurov: I dunno, also, i think 'high rollers' can request a unique addy [00:07]
smickles clearly, i'm not a high roller, as shown by the tags sending to that addy [00:07]
jurov interesting. [00:08]
jurov haha yes blockchain.info readily identifies you there [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064 = 7.1002 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00064 = 3.7965 BTC [+] [00:11]
jurov argh, these steady trades against the wall unnerve me [00:11]
jurov no volatility anymore [00:13]
Bugpowder Buy thru to 66 [00:13]
Bugpowder get that volatility back! [00:14]
jurov so i shall put another loan request on btcjam? [00:14]
Bugpowder Req 4800 BTC to buy thru the annoying wall [00:15]
jurov ;;calc 7562321*0.00064 [00:15]
gribble 4839.88544 [00:15]
jurov ic. no problem for btcjam [00:15]
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jurov in fact, last time i requested such loan, usagi accused me that i do it only cause i want some movement to show on the graphs [00:19]
jurov perhaps i wont ever forget such hilarity [00:20]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us? << well it's used whenever someone wants a reference interest rate. [00:27]
mircea_popescu much like the euribor/libor/etc [00:28]
mircea_popescu and yes, all bond deposits go to the bond address so people can see what's being deposited during each month. [00:28]
mircea_popescu smickles they can for their own account funding, but not for bonds [00:29]
jurov ok. so for example i can put on btcjam "interest rate: MPBOR + 1%" and everyone will know. [00:29]
mircea_popescu well... most everyone :p [00:29]
mircea_popescu but do it anyway, gives the kids a chance to learn [00:29]
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Bugpowder how do you determine what bonds get accepted? [00:30]
jurov but if it's really going to get 25%.. that will be tough [00:30]
jurov Bugpowder, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 [00:31]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder all deposits over 100 btc are accepted. they only count towards a month's capital needs if they make the cut [00:31]
smickles jurov: you should do the rate based on what mpbor returns less the principal return [00:31]
mircea_popescu each month all bonds are sorted by their interest rate like in a normal auction [00:31]
Bugpowder and as the bids fill on the bot, more capital is accepted? [00:32]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, more in general about mpbor : it's kinda intended as this hook for people to build stuff on. i dunno exactly what they'd build, [00:32]
mircea_popescu but im pretty certain it exposes something fundamental about btc macroeconomics [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00064 = 1.1168 BTC [+] [00:32]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder the needed capital is equal to the bot's maximal exposure during the month [00:33]
Bugpowder short puts have infinite exposure [00:34]
smickles wouldn't it make sense for lenders to build upon it somehow? [00:37]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder how do you figure ? [00:37]
Bugpowder arent the puts valued at (strike-current)/current [00:38]
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Bugpowder hence if current -> 0, puts go to infinity [00:38]
Bugpowder in BTC terms [00:39]
jurov smickles, that was Q for me? i was only half-serious, don't intend such loans atm. but we'll see [00:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00064 = 14.528 BTC [+] [00:40]
Bugpowder "MtGox’s estimated gross monthly revenue of 3-4`000 BTC stands up some months to S.MPOE’s." [00:43]
Bugpowder Gox makes money from both buyer and seller [00:44]
Bugpowder shouldnt' that be 6-8000 [00:44]
mircea_popescu ya but you're not forced to account in btc terms [00:44]
mircea_popescu i silently insure them atm [00:44]
mircea_popescu in the future there'll prolly have to be something more ellaborate done about it i guess. [00:44]
smickles SOEBOT! [00:45]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder it's tough to estimate how much they make, cause of sliding % scales and whatnot. [00:45]
sgnb mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic? [00:45]
mircea_popescu sgnb which deal you mean ? [00:45]
sgnb financing MPOE by lending xxx.00000888 BTC [00:46]
sgnb http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 [00:47]
jurov sgnb, that's exactly the bonds we're talking about all time :) [00:47]
Bugpowder The absolute minimum gox makes on any trade is 0.5% [00:47]
mircea_popescu sgnb yes, ever since thebeginning this is how the bot was financed. it's not going to go away either [00:47]
Bugpowder between two accounts that have volume of > half the monthly [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00355083 = 1.1398 BTC [+] [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00353592 = 3.5359 BTC [-] [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00352003 = 3.696 BTC [-] [00:47]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder iirc it goes to .3% privately. [00:48]
mircea_popescu .5% is what's publicly exposed [00:48]
Bugpowder 0.25% for >500,000 BTC /mo [00:48]
mircea_popescu o is it ? [00:48]
Bugpowder https://mtgox.com/fee-schedule [00:49]
mircea_popescu i guess must grow moar. [00:49]
smickles < sgnb> mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic? /me now watches 1JPvuc for a tx [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00064 = 17.76 BTC [+] [00:50]
jurov *shameless plug* sgnb: for investments under 100BTC, consider https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O [00:53]
smickles jurov: how has that been selling? [01:12]
Bugpowder hmm.. 99,500 ฿0.1010 [01:13]
jurov the first discounted 50BTC sold out. the rest we're gonna fill in ourselves [01:13]
jurov unless thre will be some last minute action [01:13]
smickles jurov: do you disclose the rate you bid at? [01:14]
jurov we'll disclose it afterwards. but as i said at forums, we'll go somewhere very conservative like 4.8% [01:15]
mircea_popescu well it'll be de facto disclosed on month's end seeing how you'll be in the list [01:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+] [01:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+] [01:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+] [01:26]
jurov omfg [01:27]
jurov what to make of such pattern [01:29]
smickles Is there a concise name for the MPBOR rate less the % accounted for by the principal return? [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00064 = 4.256 BTC [+] [01:29]
smickles aw, I was hoping the pattern would continue [01:30]
pigeons i call that rate one smickle [01:30]
jurov "rate one smickle"? not very concise [01:31]
smickles heh, I like it [01:31]
smickles fuck concise, it's not like that was the only criterion [01:31]
smickles ;D [01:32]
smickles "the smickle rate" [01:32]
pigeons smicklish [01:32]
jurov smicklez % [01:33]
smickles smickle vig [01:35]
jurov *jig [01:36]
smickles jig? [01:36]
jurov if it will be negative, we'll say [01:36]
jurov smickle jig , it is up [01:36]
smickles lol [01:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+] [01:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+] [01:46]
jurov https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE [01:47]
jurov check the E column :P [01:47]
smickles :D [01:47]
mircea_popescu lol [01:48]
mircea_popescu so i see jurov's pseudorandom number geenrator disguised as a trade bot is buying mpoe... [01:48]
pigeons emphasis on the psuedo [01:49]
mircea_popescu btw, from that link : "Utilizaţi un browser neacceptat. Este posibil ca unele funcţii să nu funcţioneze corect. Treceţi la un browser modern, cum ar fi Google Chrome." [01:49]
mircea_popescu you are utilizing an unacceptable browser. it's possible some functions do not function. [01:49]
pigeons unacceptable [01:50]
jurov i have no objection at all if the bot survived reboot and uses bitcoins from some parallel dimension, [01:50]
smickles http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE is boring now [01:51]
smickles that diffusion pattern from some time ago was much cooler [01:52]
pigeons agreed [01:52]
jurov nuff said. someone lend me 4800btc. [01:53]
smickles ok, mircea_popescu this close to expiry, my valuation of p130t shows a significant difference from mpoebot [01:57]
mircea_popescu ya well [01:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+] [01:57]
mircea_popescu if i don't sell ppl complain that i r manipulating the price by not selling [01:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00064 = 5.5379 BTC [+] [01:59]
jurov oh we (at least me) isn't complaining about you. nobody could predict it will create so strong hanging carrot effect [02:01]
pigeons usagi knew it would [02:04]
pigeons so did eskimobob and ciucuicuicui [02:04]
jurov ;;seen eskimobob [02:05]
gribble eskimobob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: 50K ART is all gone :) [02:05]
mircea_popescu i've had that guy on ignore for a week or so [02:07]
mircea_popescu it pays. [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+] [02:09]
pigeons i'm about to ignore assbot if he doesn't start reporting some different prices [02:09]
mircea_popescu whoa check out the sell side on mpoe [02:10]
mircea_popescu me, alone. [02:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+] [02:10]
pigeons mircea_popescu: loan jurov 4800 btc [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00063994 = 1.0879 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063973 = 6.2694 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063946 = 1.3429 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063945 = 2.9095 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063943 = 2.8135 BTC [-] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00063915 = 17.5447 BTC [-] [02:11]
smickles lol, assbot delivers to pigeons [02:11]
mircea_popescu lol [02:11]
jurov heh [02:12]
pigeons fear me [02:12]
* smickles sacrifices a ewe to the pigeons [02:13]
jurov i thought i have a bug on live.coinbr.com, that trade is not visible [02:16]
jurov but it's just completely insignificant [02:16]
jurov so much for pigeons power [02:17]
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thestringpuller there you go different prices [02:20]
* jurov shall add zoom level: pigeons [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4818 @ 0.00064 = 3.0835 BTC [+] [02:24]
thestringpuller I wonder if people will buy out tier 3 as well @ .00067 [02:24]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: the price stabilizer :P [02:25]
jurov eventually they will [02:27]
jurov and at 0.0007 whole thing will be worth 700k BTC [02:28]
jurov and mpoe will become bitcoin central bank [02:28]
jurov if it sin't already [02:28]
jcpham crazy [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00064 = 6.528 BTC [+] [02:32]
thestringpuller that's more BTC than pirate had [02:32]
thestringpuller lol [02:32]
thestringpuller I think soon there will be so much free wi-fi available, you could in theory use the internet for free. [02:37]
jurov thestringpuller, where do you live? it's already practice here [02:38]
jurov i found out they put a hotspot into public transport bus, too [02:39]
jurov recently [02:39]
smickles I hear that in places like seatle, they actually have a functioning city-wide meshnet, a sort've independant internet [02:40]
mircea_popescu that's more BTC than pirate had << and more "had" than pirate's, too. [02:41]
mircea_popescu jurov the recent sell actually is in there! http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE << little barb to the left off that price harpoon [02:43]
jurov yes, it shows how insignificant it is [02:43]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: when will mpex account holders have a copy of blockchain they can access via mpex and a BCCAPI server :P [02:44]
thestringpuller oh never? XD [02:44]
mircea_popescu why;'d they access the blockchain via mpex ? [02:44]
mircea_popescu this is like accessing your spoon via the bucket. [02:44]
thestringpuller aren't you planning to one day automate deposits? [02:45]
mircea_popescu nope. [02:45]
thestringpuller maybe I should have started with that [02:45]
thestringpuller WELL I SEE HOW IT IS [02:45]
mircea_popescu that's actually a service people can provide themselves. [02:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+] [02:46]
thestringpuller what happens when you have a million users [02:46]
smickles thestringpuller: someone with accounts can automate deposits [02:46]
mircea_popescu actually, iirc kakobrekla's smpake either is or is going to. [02:46]
smickles damn, mircea_popescu beat me to it [02:46]
jurov and i'm well on the way to automate mpex deposits. already get email notifications [02:46]
jurov too [02:46]
smickles we can do instant deposits too [02:47]
thestringpuller all deposites go to [02:47]
thestringpuller android:layout_weight="1" [02:47]
thestringpuller android:layout_width="0dp" [02:47]
thestringpuller android:layout_height="wrap_content" [02:47]
thestringpuller wow [02:47]
thestringpuller my buffers are not having fun today [02:47]
mircea_popescu omg hax [02:47]
smickles say jurov has 10 spare mpexbtc, I want to deposit 10 btc, i send 10 btc to jurov he txfrs 10 mpex btc to my account [02:47]
thestringpuller all deposits go to 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx << [02:47]
mircea_popescu yea [02:48]
thestringpuller yea but what if I have an mpex account [02:48]
thestringpuller and I want to add btc to my account [02:48]
thestringpuller like a lot [02:48]
thestringpuller say 2000 BTC and no one has it to front [02:48]
thestringpuller how does that get processed? [02:48]
kakobrekla it doesnt [02:48]
pigeons does PUSH work with C.BTC? [02:48]
mircea_popescu what do you mean how ? 2k deposits happen routinely atm lol [02:49]
mircea_popescu pigeons yes. [02:49]
pigeons ok solved. [02:49]
kakobrekla well not via 10 spare mpexbtc [02:49]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla : milk http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135571472587.jpg [02:49]
kakobrekla yummy [02:49]
kakobrekla imma gonna use this one [02:50]
mircea_popescu or it could be shampoo [02:50]
jurov mircea_popescu, FAQ says PUSH works for excluding cash [02:50]
mircea_popescu jurov yeah. it speaks lies. [02:50]
smickles thestringpuller: if you have an mpex account, you can deposit any amount you want [02:50]
thestringpuller but it's not automated [02:51]
thestringpuller as in 6 confirms [02:51]
smickles how does it get processed? manual confirmation [02:51]
thestringpuller i'm just splitting hairs [02:51]
mircea_popescu jurov fixed now. [02:51]
smickles a trained ape sees the tx, evaluates it, and flips a few bits on a hd [02:51]
smickles ;D [02:52]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller you know, if you deposit 500 mn in 1mn bearer certificates in your bank account [02:52]
mircea_popescu ITS NOT GOING TO BE AUTOMATED EITHER. [02:52]
thestringpuller I was heckling you! I'm sorry. [02:52]
mircea_popescu automation and risk management are pretty much contrarian [02:52]
pigeons plus its pretty darn quick in practice, and its not like mircea_popescu is busy doing anything else if you wanna just bug him to process your deposit [02:52]
jurov haha, i could have been offering quick deposit service already, if i had the audacity to ask why faq says so [02:53]
mircea_popescu i am so doing anything else! [02:53]
thestringpuller waaaah i don't want to pay 20 btc for an account so I can slap around .05 btc on options [02:53]
mircea_popescu like girls and stuff. [02:53]
mircea_popescu jurov ikr ? kakobrekla asked. [02:53]
pigeons he would welcome the excuse to get out of whatever else he is engaged in to process deposits [02:53]
smickles kakobrekla: didn't we already do a quick deposit b/t each other? [02:53]
kakobrekla wha? [02:53]
smickles it was me and someone, idk [02:54]
kakobrekla deposit to where? [02:54]
kakobrekla perhaps glbse back in the day [02:54]
smickles I needed liek 10 btc on mpex quick, someone obliged [02:54]
smickles when mircea_popescu was asleep [02:54]
kakobrekla funny how i can say that after a month or so [02:54]
kakobrekla 'back in the day' [02:54]
kakobrekla no i dont think so [02:55]
kakobrekla i did glbse manually [02:55]
jurov it just never occurred to me to test push with cxbtc [02:55]
kakobrekla smpake does only gox for now [02:55]
kakobrekla it was written in smpake thread [02:55]
kakobrekla cxbtc will be supported as well [02:55]
smickles /g 17 [02:55]
smickles er [02:55]
thestringpuller what's smpake? [02:55]
kakobrekla but then i figured i should better recode first [02:55]
thestringpuller oh i see [02:56]
kakobrekla thestringpuller smpake.com [02:56]
jurov OK, you can ask me as well to do it anytime, for amounts < 15BTC atm. [02:56]
jurov user interface on coinbr will follow soon [02:56]
kakobrekla well there you go [02:57]
thestringpuller i see kakobrekla i've used it before lol [02:57]
mircea_popescu cool stuff [02:57]
thestringpuller so I should know what it is [02:57]
smickles jurov: is there a fee? [02:57]
thestringpuller what's cxbtc? [02:57]
pigeons C.BTC [02:57]
smickles thestringpuller: it's how mpex displays your btc balance [02:57]
jurov smickles: no fee this year [02:58]
mircea_popescu no fee for you! come back, one year! [02:58]
smickles "this year", he says. crackin' wise, this guy [02:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00064 = 8.384 BTC [+] [02:59]
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smickles jurov: let's test it! [03:04]
jurov yes? [03:04]
smickles send me 10 btc [03:05]
smickles ;;ident [03:05]
gribble You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6 [03:05]
smickles 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F [03:05]
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jurov no, you send me 10btc [03:07]
jurov [02:06] Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file. :( [03:07]
smickles well, I wanted to get 10 more btc onto mpex, not 10 less [03:07]
jurov i'm confused. you want to fund or withdraw? [03:08]
smickles fund [03:08]
smickles ;;calc 1.002**((1/24)/365) [03:10]
gribble 1.00000022808 [03:10]
jurov In order to make this deposit please send to the exchange address ( 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ) the sum of 10.00296524 BTC exactly. Your transaction will be manually approved, so please allow up to 48 hours for funds to show up in your account. [03:10]
jurov smickles, when i see the tx, i'll push the C.BTC to 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F [03:11]
smickles sent [03:12]
mircea_popescu this is odd [03:12]
smickles jurov: though, when you automate it, the client should send 10 btc to you, and you send the 10.XX btc to 1Fx [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00064 = 14.624 BTC [+] [03:16]
jurov push done [03:17]
smickles received [03:17]
smickles ;;rated jurov [03:17]
gribble You have not yet rated user jurov [03:17]
smickles ;;rate jurov 1 [03:17]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded. [03:17]
jurov i can't auth with gribble [03:17]
smickles i'll verify your identity later [03:17]
mircea_popescu my question is, why do things this way ? [03:18]
smickles for when your trained ape is offline [03:19]
jurov it's supposed to be faster [03:19]
mircea_popescu but... if you send the btc to mpex's address it still waits on mpex ? [03:20]
mircea_popescu doesn't that defeat the entire purpose ? [03:20]
jurov smickles does not have to wait on mpex [03:20]
jurov only i have to, but i don't mind [03:20]
mircea_popescu i guess that's a point. [03:21]
jurov cause i must have some reserve on mpex anyway [03:21]
mircea_popescu anyway, the way push is structured there's nothing to prevent a lot of further development here. i imagine one next step is a loans secured by shares business [03:22]
jurov smickles: and i prefer users to directly deposit to mpex cause of faster turnover [03:22]
mircea_popescu and in the end i guess mpex accounts will look a lot more like banks than anything [03:22]
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jurov maybe they will look like bank when balance+all pending transactions will be consistent at all times [03:28]
jurov all *shown* pending transactions, i mean [03:30]
smickles check out the spread on P130T [03:30]
jurov serious scalping opportunity, i say [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+] [03:33]
mircea_popescu buy 7 sell 8 satoshi ? [03:36]
jurov smickles is testing teh bot [03:36]
smickles clearly, it's an int division issue [03:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+] [03:38]
smickles srsly, mircea_popescu you need me to add this 15 satoshi of liquidity [03:38]
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smickles ;;bc,24hprc [03:42]
gribble 13.32 [03:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00000008 BTC [-] [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+] [03:47]
mircea_popescu i sure do! [03:48]
smickles how about that [03:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+] [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+] [04:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00064 = 6.592 BTC [+] [04:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7954 @ 0.00064 = 5.0906 BTC [+] [04:42]
smickles ;;tslb [04:53]
gribble Time since last block: 24 minutes and 43 seconds [04:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00064 = 6.656 BTC [+] [05:00]
smickles ;;bc,stats [05:01]
gribble Current Blocks: 213943 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 1768 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3347057.04349520 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.3310481711 [05:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12183 @ 0.00064 = 7.7971 BTC [+] [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064 = 6.56 BTC [+] [05:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064 = 8 BTC [+] [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+] [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+] [05:13]
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smickles ;;rated kakobrekla [05:15]
gribble You rated user kakobrekla on Thu Oct 11 11:36:14 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: facilitated a short term loan. [05:15]
smickles ;;rate kakobrekla 1 facilitated a short term loan, smpake.com is awesome. use it. [05:16]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 1. [05:16]
jcpham the [05:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00064 = 2.656 BTC [+] [05:17]
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pigeons commission for the previous 2 users goes to jcpham [05:17]
jcpham rofl [05:18]
smickles heh, I was an early user of smpake, this was just the first significant use [05:19]
kakobrekla i havent touched it in too long. [05:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+] [05:20]
pigeons i touch it every day [05:20]
kakobrekla ;> [05:21]
fulluser hi [05:23]
fulluser this thing works like Forex [05:23]
fulluser or people actually hold shares for a long time [05:23]
kakobrekla what is this thing [05:24]
fulluser im new to this [05:24]
fulluser if you could explain it briefly [05:24]
fulluser works abosolutely like real stocks ? [05:24]
kakobrekla you mean mpex? yeah just like real stock. the glbse stock are completley virtual tho. [05:25]
fulluser you get live quotes like FX [05:25]
fulluser they change every 5 minutes or so like real world stocks [05:26]
kakobrekla are you a forex user? [05:26]
fulluser or people use to hold em [05:26]
fulluser yes [05:26]
kakobrekla oh well [05:26]
kakobrekla then you must check bit4x.com [05:26]
fulluser really [05:27]
fulluser can believe its real ! [05:27]
fulluser and BTC varies way more than any coin [05:27]
fulluser !! [05:27]
fulluser has longer spreads ? [05:27]
kakobrekla you cant trade btc pair on forex, you can trade forex with btc [05:27]
kakobrekla profit and losses are btc [05:27]
fulluser oh well [05:28]
kakobrekla not euro dollar whatever [05:28]
fulluser i trade BTCUSD or EURUSD [05:28]
fulluser ? [05:28]
kakobrekla eurusd [05:28]
kakobrekla in btc [05:28]
fulluser worth trying thanks [05:29]
fulluser way to advertise the site [05:29]
fulluser Lol [05:29]
fulluser ;) [05:29]
kakobrekla well i thought you might find it useful since you mentined forex [05:29]
fulluser any restrictions on the bonus [05:29]
kakobrekla i could put it in the topic [05:30]
fulluser and yes you were right [05:30]
kakobrekla but nobody reads that [05:30]
kakobrekla faq: Am I eligible for the 5 BTC bonus? [05:30]
kakobrekla When you open a Live account a 5 BTC bonus will be awarded to your balance. In order to withdraw the bonus, one must have have closed at least 5 trades on the Live account. [05:30]
fulluser can you open me an account [05:30]
fulluser or mail is automated ? [05:31]
kakobrekla sure, send me an email as it says on the site [05:31]
kakobrekla its not automated [05:31]
kakobrekla but its the procedure [05:31]
kakobrekla if you send me the info now ill reply you with a deposit addy [05:31]
fulluser okay [05:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00064 = 7.2 BTC [+] [05:32]
kakobrekla if you can deposit today youll get an account on monday [05:32]
kakobrekla or so [05:32]
fulluser where i can grab gpg for windows [05:32]
kakobrekla http://www.gnupg.org/related_software/gpa/index.en.html [05:32]
smickles ;;google gpg4win [05:32]
gribble Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows: ; Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win: ; Gpg4win - About Gpg4win: [05:32]
fulluser okay [05:32]
kakobrekla yeah [05:33]
kakobrekla best to sign it [05:33]
kakobrekla if you can be bothered [05:33]
* smickles market making teh options since '12 [05:33]
fulluser better to not [05:34]
fulluser not a bitcoin adv user [05:34]
smickles kakobrekla: checkit, i'm blowing the socks off the mpoebot's prices on the 13,14 strikes [05:35]
kakobrekla smickles url? [05:36]
Ukto >,> [05:37]
kakobrekla fulluser, you didnt sign the email [05:37]
kakobrekla fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now [05:37]
smickles http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P130T [05:37]
smickles http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C130T [05:37]
smickles http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T [05:37]
smickles http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C140T [05:37]
kakobrekla else ill do it w/o [05:37]
kakobrekla aaa [05:37]
kakobrekla not to shabby ;) [05:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00064 = 10.88 BTC [+] [05:38]
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smickles yeah, a little more bug testing, then I'll throw some btc at it, then later, I might seek funding for it too [05:38]
smickles ;;ticker [05:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42174, Best ask: 13.43787, Bid-ask spread: 0.01613, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 19062.67342392, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38236 [05:39]
smickles we just hit 13.6 eh? [05:39]
kakobrekla again. [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7875 @ 0.00064 = 5.04 BTC [+] [05:40]
smickles lol, i just realized you could say that to any # up to 30ish [05:40]
kakobrekla yep [05:40]
kakobrekla :) [05:40]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [05:41]
gribble 13.32 [05:41]
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fulluser20 hi [05:43]
fulluser20 sent you the mail (bit4x owner) [05:43]
kakobrekla 04:37.11 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser, you didnt sign the email [05:44]
kakobrekla 04:37.28 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now [05:44]
kakobrekla yeah lets do this via pm [05:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00064 = 2.1664 BTC [+] [05:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+] [06:08]
mircea_popescu smickles you know it doesn't price on the last day right ? [06:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+] [06:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13116 @ 0.00064 = 8.3942 BTC [+] [06:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+] [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064 = 8.128 BTC [+] [06:24]
smickles mircea_popescu: yes, that's why i'm rockin' yo socks yo! [06:25]
smickles it was a joke :P [06:25]
mircea_popescu lolk [06:25]
smickles anyway, with the currently limited funds, i've expanded to the 12 to 15 range of strikes :D [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00064 = 9.216 BTC [+] [06:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9867 @ 0.00064 = 6.3149 BTC [+] [06:34]
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fulluser20 keyserver for mpex [06:38]
fulluser20 ? [06:38]
mircea_popescu fulluser20 what do you mean ? [06:38]
fulluser20 >gpg --search-keys "F1B69921" [06:39]
fulluser20 (mpex key [06:39]
fulluser20 no leyservers known [06:39]
fulluser20 keyserver [06:39]
mircea_popescu uh [06:39]
mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/faq.html#8 [06:40]
mircea_popescu see that [06:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+] [06:40]
smickles ok, assuming there are no more bugs, I've got a decent amount of optimization to do [06:42]
mircea_popescu lol [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+] [06:44]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [06:44]
gribble 13.33 [06:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00064 = 2.8346 BTC [+] [06:48]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [14:15]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || https://btct.co || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [14:15]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Mon Dec 24 19:40:09 2012 [14:15]
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mircea_popescu hm, are anyone else's intertubes all bolloxed up ? [14:30]
Bugpowder you settlements are all bolloxed up [14:31]
Bugpowder I can send details [14:31]
mircea_popescu please do [14:31]
Bugpowder check the office@polimedia email. [14:37]
mircea_popescu ye on it. [14:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00064 = 4.2464 BTC [+] [14:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00064 = 7.0317 BTC [+] [15:02]
Bugpowder how many are the putting in one device? [15:11]
Bugpowder 300MH/chip? [15:11]
Bugpowder Whales are back betting on S.DICE again [15:16]
JWU42 BFL is going to be sending me money very soon [15:16]
JWU42 might eb cancelling [15:16]
Bugpowder S.DICE up another 1000 BTC this morning. [15:16]
JWU42 looking at Dooglus post? [15:16]
Bugpowder no [15:16]
Bugpowder my own analysis [15:16]
JWU42 ahh [15:16]
JWU42 oh yeah - you post in that thread as well [15:17]
Bugpowder I only consider bets over 10BTC [15:17]
Bugpowder since the last dooglas post [15:17]
JWU42 with 250 BTC bets things can move quickly [15:17]
Bugpowder I think S.DICE is now >18,000 profit this month [15:17]
Bugpowder http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL [15:18]
Bugpowder hah [15:19]
Bugpowder I don't think S.DICE mixes [15:19]
Bugpowder but I don't know much [15:19]
Bugpowder about that stuff [15:19]
JWU42 I use Gox for that [15:19]
JWU42 not mixing but atleast losing some identity [15:20]
JWU42 when i feel the need [15:20]
Bugpowder the need for speed [15:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00064 = 15.232 BTC [+] [15:21]
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JWU42 way to go Goose [15:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26956 @ 0.00064 = 17.2518 BTC [+] [15:34]
mircea_popescu re sdice and mixing [15:39]
mircea_popescu wouldn't the fact that they always repay to the address that sent make it impossible to use as a mixer ? [15:39]
mircea_popescu i mean, what exact identity is lost ? [15:39]
mircea_popescu if anything, it would degrade anonimity i imagine. [15:40]
Bugpowder yes [15:41]
Bugpowder that is my understanding [15:41]
mircea_popescu well so then wtf people keep going "o, it's used for mixing" as if it's some arcana they know about [15:44]
mircea_popescu fucking hell i need to stop listening to people. [15:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+] [15:49]
mircea_popescu btw jurov i always meant to ask, what's the br in coinbr stand for ? brazil ? [15:53]
pigeons well the coins you get back come from sdice, so there is at least that link [15:53]
pigeons BRoker [15:53]
mircea_popescu o [15:55]
mircea_popescu why not cnbroker lol [15:55]
mircea_popescu pigeons what i mean is, sdice does not sever the link. sure it varies the amt. [15:56]
pigeons i agree [15:56]
pigeons easy to agree with facts [15:57]
mircea_popescu ianae, but i imagine the only way to correctly mix is to use a single inbound address. [15:57]
mircea_popescu that pretty much makes all outbound coins "virgin" [15:58]
mircea_popescu in the same sense if not exactly in the same way as freshly minted coins [15:58]
pigeons i'll let you lousy criminals speculate [15:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+] [16:00]
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pigeons laundering that porn money [16:07]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135670319079.jpg [16:09]
mircea_popescu she begs to differ. [16:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+] [16:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00064 = 7.712 BTC [+] [16:49]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: mircea_popescu has had you on ignore for months [16:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35694 @ 0.00064 = 22.8442 BTC [+] [16:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12754 @ 0.00064 = 8.1626 BTC [+] [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11485 @ 0.00064 = 7.3504 BTC [+] [17:00]
thestringpuller EskimoBob: the bully [17:06]
thestringpuller who will indirectly cost me 20 btc because he will drive usagi to suicide [17:06]
pigeons net win [17:07]
thestringpuller :( [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00064 = 15.616 BTC [+] [17:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064 = 6.912 BTC [+] [17:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00064 = 7.424 BTC [+] [17:24]
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Bugpowder heavy betting continues on S.DICE [17:50]
Bugpowder S.DICE lead down to 600 BTC on the morning [17:51]
thestringpuller whats the bet count? [17:51]
Bugpowder actually up 600 in last 32 hours [17:52]
Bugpowder bet count of 11,000 since 12-27-12 7:00 [17:52]
thestringpuller looks like your speculation is proving right Dr. Bugpowder [17:54]
thestringpuller its Dr. right? [17:54]
Bugpowder yup [17:57]
thestringpuller so Dr. Bugpowder what are you gonna do with your bonus paid for by the ghost of satoshi? [17:58]
Bugpowder SPLIT 14 strike options and sell them short [17:59]
thestringpuller you think the price will hit 14 this month? [18:01]
Bugpowder who knows [18:05]
Bugpowder I care what it does next month [18:05]
Bugpowder and what range it does or does not stay within [18:05]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [18:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45011, Best ask: 13.48408, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 13.45011, 24 hour volume: 20887.52776928, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.39768 [18:06]
thestringpuller it will likely close no greater than 13.50 tonight [18:06]
thestringpuller a whale may come in and adjust the price thougb [18:06]
Bugpowder well as long as it stays between 11 and 17, I made money on options selling this month [18:08]
thestringpuller thats a wide position [18:08]
thestringpuller thats what she said [18:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+] [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11805 @ 0.00064 = 7.5552 BTC [+] [18:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+] [18:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+] [18:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00064 = 7.744 BTC [+] [18:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+] [18:59]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133700.0 [19:00]
kakobrekla hmm [19:00]
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pigeons ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133702.0;topicseen [19:04]
gribble What is the difference between MtGox and Dwalla? [19:04]
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thestringpuller pigeons is what you said about pigeons true? [19:15]
pigeons close enough i reckon [19:21]
pigeons which thing? [19:21]
thestringpuller about the original pigeons being extinct [19:22]
pigeons yeah [19:22]
thestringpuller and the ones we find and citys and parks now are escaped pets [19:22]
thestringpuller that shit is nuts [19:22]
thestringpuller like some conspiracy shit [19:22]
thestringpuller I have an interesting idea for an offering but I will need to periodically perform reverse splits. [19:22]
thestringpuller (i.e. 1000 shares reverse split to 990 shares). Do any exchanges support share splits? [19:22]
thestringpuller >< [19:22]
thestringpuller stupid text wall [19:22]
pigeons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon [19:23]
pigeons these are the ones you see now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove [19:23]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [19:23]
gribble 13.34 [19:23]
thestringpuller whoa [19:24]
thestringpuller ugh stupid option key [19:25]
smickles thestringpuller: probably not programatically, but I'm sure most, if run by good people, would do it manually [19:25]
pigeons oh good people, this is bitcoin [19:25]
smickles oh, thestringpuller you were quoting :| [19:26]
thestringpuller that was a post [19:26]
thestringpuller yea quote [19:26]
thestringpuller i'm on a ma [19:26]
thestringpuller mac [19:26]
thestringpuller I'm having trouble [19:26]
pigeons yeah they don't right-click either, i didnt know thye had problems with quote marks too [19:26]
thestringpuller they have trouble with giving me any keys other than apple button or options [19:27]
smickles so it turns out, you can't use gmail to send thousands of emails per day to yourself [19:27]
thestringpuller option* [19:27]
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smickles "arg parser!" sometimes escapes my mouth in place of "aw, FUCK!" [19:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3175 @ 0.00064 = 2.032 BTC [+] [19:41]
thestringpuller smickles: are you writing Python REPL's? [19:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+] [19:45]
jcpham http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/policy-implications-of-capital-biased-technology-opening-remarks/ [19:45]
smickles buy my puts :D [19:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33288 @ 0.00064 = 21.3043 BTC [+] [19:55]
smickles jcpham: so, because people are rightly trying to avoid the higher form taxes, the people who plan to be depandant on that specific sort of tax revenue are boned? [19:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00064 = 2.304 BTC [+] [19:58]
jcpham something like that is what i read [19:58]
jcpham that crazy krugman [19:58]
pigeons give him another nobel prize [19:58]
smickles nobel prized a perfect, [19:59]
smickles I love Obama's [19:59]
pigeons obama's was the peace prize for drone attacks, afghanistan and iraq? [19:59]
jcpham obama won a nobel prize? [20:01]
smickles yup, a for peace [20:01]
jcpham are you making that up? [20:01]
smickles no [20:01]
jcpham smh [20:01]
Bugpowder lol [20:01]
smickles and he got it after ordering things which resulted in innocent deaths [20:02]
jcpham if he gets one everyone else gets 100 [20:02]
jcpham nobel prizes [20:02]
smickles and then went on to doing drone strikes which ended up killing children [20:02]
smickles and then pretending to cry about the deaths of children which he didn't cause [20:02]
jcpham pretty lame president if you don't kill somebody [20:03]
smickles and trying, maybe succeding to make it legal to kidnap and kill citizens w/o cause, documentation, trial, etc... [20:03]
smickles it's one sweet peace prize [20:04]
jcpham you must think you have rights or something [20:04]
smickles I'm just an uppity slave :p [20:05]
jcpham authoritarian regimes never allow citizens to affect change [20:05]
jcpham make sure to encrypt those emails kids [20:05]
smickles I don't even have a proper job, I'm not a good slave at all :/ [20:07]
smickles but i suppose my wife being active duty makes up for my working for myself, rather than someone else [20:08]
thestringpuller smickles obeys the law though [20:09]
smickles yeah, I don't want to get in trouble :| [20:15]
smickles if the law gets too out of hand, i'll try to move somewhere else first [20:16]
smickles kinda like the 'vote with you dollar' concept [20:16]
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thestringpuller thats too smooth [20:26]
thestringpuller if it gets too outta hand [20:26]
thestringpuller just leave heh [20:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9799 @ 0.00064 = 6.2714 BTC [+] [20:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+] [20:33]
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jcpham i'm sort of waiting for the day i'm branded a terrorist myself [20:46]
jcpham for using funny internet money [20:46]
pigeons vote wit yah feet [20:46]
jcpham market making, profit taking [20:46]
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smickles mircea_popescu: "Your order #4828665 has been canceled" << see what's missing there? [21:07]
mircea_popescu nope :D [21:08]
smickles ;;google canceled [21:08]
gribble Cancelled Vs Canceled | Reference.com Answers: ; canceled - definition of canceled by the Free Online Dictionary ...: ; Is the correct spelling of the word 'cancelled' or 'canceled': [21:08]
mircea_popescu mmm [21:08]
mircea_popescu lol [21:08]
jcpham i lost a 6850 this week [21:10]
mircea_popescu old age ? [21:10]
jcpham actually it has already been rma'd once [21:11]
jcpham it just sucks [21:11]
jcpham i just bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010 [21:11]
jcpham to replace it while i rma it again [21:11]
jcpham i'll gpu mine until i have to pay for a power bill [21:12]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [21:13]
gribble 13.33 [21:13]
smickles uh-oh, jurov it's having trouble finding order #'s now :o [21:14]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [21:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40091, Best ask: 13.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04906, Last trade: 13.40091, 24 hour volume: 21262.83730854, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.41324 [21:19]
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thestringpuller 5 hours till settlement no? [21:19]
smickles there abouts [21:19]
smickles it's 19:19 utc [21:19]
smickles so 5.79 hrs, i think [21:20]
thestringpuller 4.79 [21:20]
smickles heh, yes, 4.79 [21:20]
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* smickles sings, "'Cause I'm livin'... 25 hours a daaaaay" [21:21]
smickles secret of my success baby [21:21]
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mircea_popescu lol [21:22]
thestringpuller there is nothing to do at work [21:25]
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thestringpuller they are essentially paying me to talk here [21:25]
jcpham i'm about to leave work myself [21:27]
jcpham be back wednesday [21:27]
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thestringpuller i wish i could leave [21:30]
jcpham just do it. screw those bosses and their work [21:30]
thestringpuller lol [21:31]
thestringpuller dissident are we? [21:31]
jcpham mvp's usually are [21:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00064 = 3.9078 BTC [+] [21:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4436 @ 0.00064 = 2.839 BTC [+] [21:41]
jcpham https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OKFhItNAjZI/UN30OiV0H3I/AAAAAAAAMxA/c_tp4ihAU40/s640/meth+masturbation.jpg [21:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00064 = 7.52 BTC [+] [21:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064 = 7.68 BTC [+] [21:56]
mircea_popescu lol thestringpuller-pr [21:57]
jurov smickles, told ya [22:06]
kakobrekla evening. [22:06]
jurov 'night [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00064 = 6.4986 BTC [+] [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+] [22:13]
kakobrekla not yet [22:17]
jurov ;;ident jurov [22:22]
gribble Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245', is identified as user jurov, with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None [22:22]
jurov i heard there was some filthy impostor doing mpex fundings with smickles [22:23]
jurov ;;rated smickles [22:24]
gribble You have not yet rated user smickles [22:24]
jurov ;;rate smickles 1 [22:24]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user smickles has been recorded. [22:24]
jurov ;;rated Ukto [22:25]
gribble You have not yet rated user Ukto [22:25]
jurov ;;rate Ukto 2 pleasure to work with him (no homo) [22:25]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Ukto has been recorded. [22:25]
Ukto roflol [22:25]
jurov ;;rated jurov [22:28]
gribble You have not yet rated user jurov [22:28]
jurov ;;rate jurov 10 [22:28]
gribble Error: You cannot rate yourself. [22:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00064 = 13.4848 BTC [+] [22:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14843 @ 0.00064 = 9.4995 BTC [+] [22:38]
smickles heh, thx jurov [22:42]
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Bugpowder Latest Dooglas post is out. 33737.14961221 Profit for S.DICE [22:47]
Bugpowder so up to ~17,700 for the month [22:47]
Bugpowder WHERE DID THE BUYERS GO?? [22:47]
Bugpowder If only these S.MPOE bots would train there sights on S.DICE we could get a decent valuation. [22:48]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [22:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45768, Best ask: 13.49769, Bid-ask spread: 0.04001, Last trade: 13.49883, 24 hour volume: 23420.32427228, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42037 [22:48]
smickles ;;calc 17700 / 100000000 / 0.0037 [22:51]
gribble 0.0478378378378 [22:51]
smickles ;;calc 1500000*0.0037 [22:51]
gribble 5550 [22:51]
smickles anyone have 5550 or so btc to lend? [22:51]
smickles I'll pay back 1% per the term [22:52]
smickles term ending on jan 6 [22:53]
jurov Bugpowder, how exactly do you suppose the bots for s.dice would work? [22:53]
Bugpowder buy [22:53]
Bugpowder same way they are working for S.MPOE [22:53]
Bugpowder just buy [22:53]
Bugpowder I haven't seen a sell on S.MPOE in 2 days [22:54]
jurov oh...er...how do you know these are bots? [22:54]
Bugpowder 14,000,000 shares [22:54]
Bugpowder what else could they be [22:54]
Bugpowder A steady drip of 2-20BTC buys [22:54]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [22:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310 [22:54]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [22:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.48878, Bid-ask spread: 0.06877, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310 [22:55]
Bugpowder 13.5 is going [22:55]
Bugpowder down [22:55]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [22:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41102, Best ask: 13.48877, Bid-ask spread: 0.07775, Last trade: 13.41102, 24 hour volume: 24188.07995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310 [22:55]
jurov i can imagine someone programmed a "bot" for dripping buys of s.mpoe [22:55]
Bugpowder it's weird [22:55]
jurov but that's just a script, not a real bot that makes decisions [22:55]
Bugpowder yeah [22:55]
Bugpowder but its just super steady small lot buys [22:56]
Bugpowder all day all night [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00064 = 4.9862 BTC [+] [22:56]
Bugpowder cough [22:56]
Bugpowder well [22:56]
Bugpowder I hope it keeps up through the divvy payment [22:56]
Bugpowder :) [22:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [+] [22:57]
Bugpowder it's like someone forgot to change the setting on their bot after the secondary offering [22:57]
Bugpowder And they have 1000s of coins to play with [22:57]
jurov but why would they do it? [22:59]
Bugpowder they are gone on vacation [22:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00351365 = 0.0351 BTC [+] [22:59]
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Bugpowder YAY [22:59]
Bugpowder I might be overexposed to S.DICE [23:00]
jurov no i mean.. do they fear that buying it all in one go would cause X? [23:00]
Bugpowder it's like they have a bot that hits the ask every 15 minutes [23:00]
Bugpowder and sells when the bid goes over the purchase price [23:01]
smickles maybe to try to catch some lower sells [23:01]
Bugpowder but it cant go over cause the secondary offering [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+] [23:01]
Bugpowder LOL [23:01]
jurov smickles yes, their idea might be, to get better price.. but that's totally not working now [23:01]
Bugpowder The funny thing is.... it's not exploitable by us either [23:04]
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jurov .. unless someone lends me 4800 btc, ofc [23:04]
smickles ;;getrating jurov [23:05]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245 . User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 17, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 8 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov [23:05]
smickles jurov: what rate would you pay for ~100 btc? [23:06]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [23:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41005, Best ask: 13.48989, Bid-ask spread: 0.07984, Last trade: 13.49995, 24 hour volume: 24497.02820033, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42369 [23:06]
jurov i won't make a scratch on that wall with 100btc [23:07]
smickles I just figured i'd go fishin' [23:07]
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Bugpowder ;;calc .00064*6234323 [23:08]
gribble 3989.96672 [23:08]
Bugpowder 3 more days like this and its gone [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+] [23:09]
smickles someone should be watching known/suspected mircea addys for possible connection to these buys, on the off chance that a connection is made [23:10]
smickles it'd be complicated tho [23:11]
smickles I should just pretend to do it and make regular reports saying there is no connection to raise confidence [23:12]
mircea_popescu how do you calculate being overexposed ? [23:15]
smickles probably something to do with the slipage involved with a sale of a large portion of it [23:16]
mircea_popescu i been trying to calc stuff like that with about 0 success [23:16]
mircea_popescu mostly cause the market is so random [23:16]
kakobrekla soh [23:17]
kakobrekla mpex has 30times the volume of largest SL exchange [23:17]
smickles then incorporate random walk theory mircea_popescu ;) [23:17]
thestringpuller SL? [23:18]
kakobrekla second life [23:18]
mircea_popescu smickles ya lol [23:18]
kakobrekla shit i dont even have the first one [23:18]
mircea_popescu excep this is more like random pounce [23:18]
mircea_popescu yest i looked into market, there were absolutely NO offers of s.mpoe [23:18]
mircea_popescu other than mine [23:18]
thestringpuller more dividend power [23:19]
thestringpuller buyers market at this poinr [23:19]
smickles mircea_popescu: that's a spooky fact [23:19]
smickles maybe it's cause there arn't enough people will balls enough to short it [23:20]
mircea_popescu that's the other thing, theres a PILE of buys [23:20]
mircea_popescu or was [23:21]
mircea_popescu ya still is. [23:21]
Bugpowder all paid in advance [23:21]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder yes. [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064 = 1.472 BTC [+] [23:21]
mircea_popescu fact is, i've seen more nonsense in btc finance than all togetgher anywhere else all time. [23:21]
mircea_popescu embodiment of fucken chaos. [23:21]
kakobrekla goes together with the crypto anarchism i guess [23:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+] [23:32]
Bugpowder Well, its 3.38M shares of bids > .00058 [23:32]
Bugpowder around 2100BTC [23:32]
Bugpowder And if this tier sells thru, the bot might make a profit [23:33]
Bugpowder heh [23:33]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [23:41]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42002, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42002, 24 hour volume: 22418.93354803, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.43718 [23:41]
mircea_popescu course some it bought at 6.2 [23:45]
mircea_popescu there were 10mn at 6.2 too [23:45]
Bugpowder yeah I wanted in at 62 but had no free capital [23:48]
mircea_popescu compared to the earlier buy of sdice at 18... [23:48]
mircea_popescu ima be telling my grandkids about that [23:48]
Bugpowder yeah but very low volume [23:49]
Bugpowder on the 18 [23:49]
Bugpowder right? [23:49]
mircea_popescu no ? [23:49]
mircea_popescu like 1,5mn [23:49]
Bugpowder I thought it was only like 300 shares that popped off at that price [23:49]
Bugpowder o [23:49]
mircea_popescu was a small one early [23:49]
mircea_popescu the next day, massive sellout [23:49]
mircea_popescu let me find this [23:50]
Bugpowder I dare say it spooked the market [23:50]
Bugpowder S.DICE price has never recovered [23:50]
mircea_popescu Dec 21 23:50:23 [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-] [23:51]
mircea_popescu Dec 21 23:50:24 [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-] [23:51]
mircea_popescu Dec 21 23:50:26 [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-] [23:51]
mircea_popescu Dec 21 23:50:27 [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-] [23:51]
Bugpowder fuck that [23:52]
mircea_popescu lol [23:53]
smickles lol, someone sold right b/f the end of the world [23:53]
mircea_popescu whoa [23:54]
mircea_popescu i didn't notice this at the time [23:54]
mircea_popescu you seriously telling me it was a millenarist thing ?! [23:54]
smickles maybe [23:54]
Bugpowder cryptoanarchist [23:54]
mircea_popescu what were they going to do with bitcoins ? [23:54]
smickles go to space w/ the greys [23:54]
mircea_popescu why bitcoin and not bottlecaps ? [23:55]
smickles bitcoins, being man's great acheivement, are like aboriginal boomerangs to the greys [23:56]
mircea_popescu o i c [23:56]
mircea_popescu i'll say this, it may be the case we have a real market here on the strength of the criteria that it makes absolutely no sense. [23:56]
smickles no sense? it's an unyeilding techincal (chartist) breakout [23:59]
smickles and it has the best fundamentals of any freely available bitcoin investment [23:59]
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