Forum logs for 28 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1975 BTC [-] [00:02]
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jurov ;;seen mircea_popescu [00:07]
gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: don't worry, it;'s coming [00:07]
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KRS1 whats coming [00:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.238 BTC [-] [00:10]
jurov KRS1, read 10 lines back [00:12]
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jurov cnat raed ... better crawl back to #bitcoin-anal [00:13]
jurov (my apologies if KRS-1 is someone else) [00:14]
jurov ;) [00:15]
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kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [00:19]
gribble Current Blocks: 233461 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 394 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9935074.73308 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.7059 [00:19]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30000001 = 0.6 BTC [-] [00:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-] [00:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.176101 BTC [-] [00:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1761 BTC [-] [00:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17602 BTC [-] [00:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] [00:48]
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mjr___ hi all [00:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4571 = 1.8284 BTC [-] [00:55]
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jurov hi mjr___ [01:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00311 = 0.1244 BTC [-] [01:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-] [01:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0031 BTC [-] [01:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4679 = 0.9358 BTC [+] [01:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4679 = 3.2753 BTC [+] [01:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00068812 = 4.2663 BTC [-] [01:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00068289 = 1.5706 BTC [-] [01:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068967 = 1.0345 BTC [+] [01:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.477999 BTC [+] [01:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4641 BTC [-] [01:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2241 BTC [-] [01:41]
mjr___ geez its hard to get bitcoins or sell bitcoins [01:43]
mod6 can't just do an otc trade with someone? [01:43]
mjr___ tough [01:44]
mjr___ $20,000 USD in cash [01:44]
mjr___ not easy to make that happen in one day [01:45]
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mjr___ gox verification queue [01:45]
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mjr___ limits on bitinstant [01:45]
mjr___ what is the best escrow service? [01:45]
mod6 not sure, could ask around in #bitcoin-escrow ? [01:46]
joecool !ident mjr___ [01:46]
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joecool ..ident mjr___ [01:46]
joecool meh [01:46]
joecool ;;ident mjr___ [01:46]
gribble Nick 'mjr___', with hostmask 'mjr___!mjr_@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [01:46]
mjr___ ;;ident mjr_ [01:46]
gribble Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'MJR_!~mjr_@72.5.43.201', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX [01:46]
mjr___ that's me [01:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4641 = 3.2487 BTC [-] [01:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] [01:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] [01:58]
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ThickAsThieves Is mpexbot selling options yet? [02:01]
mod6 not yet [02:01]
ThickAsThieves is there a problem or just waiting til Monday or such? [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7330 @ 0.00068967 = 5.0553 BTC [+] [02:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00069036 = 1.2937 BTC [+] [02:04]
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mod6 ThickAsThieves: no idea [02:05]
ThickAsThieves :/ [02:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4778 = 3.8224 BTC [+] [02:10]
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dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187730.msg1947140#msg1947140 [02:16]
dub obvious usagi sock is obvious [02:16]
nospinzy what would be a good start up [02:17]
ThickAsThieves Groupon [02:32]
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mod6 lol [02:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20296 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20295 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20241 BTC [-] [02:35]
ThickAsThieves love me some daily deals! [02:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+] [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8476 @ 0.00069036 = 5.8515 BTC [+] [02:36]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2021 BTC [-] [02:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.202 BTC [-] [02:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2031 BTC [+] [02:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.203 BTC [-] [02:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4715 @ 0.0006991 = 3.2963 BTC [+] [02:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1885 @ 0.00069922 = 1.318 BTC [+] [02:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+] [02:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.210001 BTC [+] [03:03]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+] [03:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+] [03:13]
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mircea_popescu whoa the miracle [03:13]
mircea_popescu jurov well the idea is i publish friday pay next day in case there's errors found or anything. [03:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00069922 = 1.5033 BTC [+] [03:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+] [03:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2497 = 11.2473 BTC [+] [03:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2498 BTC [+] [03:16]
mircea_popescu so anyone know this Priambelenge guy / [03:16]
jcpham nope [03:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.249899 = 7.4994 BTC [+] [03:17]
jcpham i noticed that retarded thread is still going though [03:17]
jcpham that guy and his diary [03:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-] [03:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.22 = 30.5 BTC [-] [03:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+] [03:18]
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mircea_popescu ya this guy is like, hi i'm organising an event we will have hedge funds would you like to speak. then he leaves. [03:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] [03:19]
mircea_popescu i'm like... ok. so if i want to speak what do i do, send a message to your webchat ip ? [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.198 = 6.93 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.201 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.2 = 36 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20101 BTC [+] [03:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25899 BTC [+] [03:27]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C320T] 20 @ 0.05733111 = 1.1466 BTC [03:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33998 BTC [-] [03:29]
Namworld C320? I can sell some of those anytime... [03:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.33999 = 2.0399 BTC [+] [03:30]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+] [03:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33999 BTC [-] [03:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36879 BTC [+] [03:31]
mircea_popescu lol so offer for less than 5 cents [03:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P056T] 50 @ 0.05154951 = 2.5775 BTC [03:39]
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mircea_popescu !t ^oix [03:41]
assbot Your actions are useless. [03:41]
mircea_popescu !t , ^oix [03:41]
assbot Have you got any tobacco? [03:42]
mircea_popescu !t m ^oix [03:42]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 53.25474403 / (50 shares, 2.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [03:42]
mircea_popescu sooo... it's back. lol [03:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 20 @ 0.09950213 = 1.99 BTC [-] [03:44]
mircea_popescu !t m ^oix [03:45]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [03:45]
mircea_popescu and also balanced now. [03:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.477999 = 7.17 BTC [+] [03:46]
mircea_popescu mod6 was pretty cool vid fo sho. [03:47]
mircea_popescu lol reptilia wants to outdo mp... by posting pics of girls? hahahaha << that thread is epic. [03:47]
mircea_popescu SlipperySlope the way this works is, mpoe results are published the weekend after close. i usually try and so far have managed to publish within 1-2 hours of actual close. [03:49]
mircea_popescu then the results sit for a day, if anyone finds errors or has q's or w/e. [03:49]
mircea_popescu then payments are made. [03:49]
mircea_popescu so reasonably anyone depending on mpoe payouts on the end of a month would be making payments no sooner than 24 hours after results published. [03:49]
mircea_popescu is there a problem or just waiting til Monday or such? << bitcoincharts was migrating servers or w/e [03:50]
mircea_popescu lol [03:51]
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mircea_popescu o, almost forgot. [03:51]
mircea_popescu new gf ---> http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136667488555.jpg [03:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [+] [03:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.009999 = 0.16 BTC [+] [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00069922 = 3.8212 BTC [+] [04:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070335 = 3.3057 BTC [+] [04:02]
kakobrekla OUCH [04:13]
kakobrekla http://www.bloomberg.com/video/seeing-huge-increase-in-bitcoin-customers-karpeles-xsmrZuQxQ2CIkPQoeeDJsA.html [04:13]
mircea_popescu he's lieing. [04:14]
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kakobrekla on which part [04:16]
kakobrekla did you see this vid? [04:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00302 = 0.0453 BTC [-] [04:16]
mircea_popescu on the "moar customers" opart. [04:19]
KRS1 wtf he can't talk or is something stuck up his ass [04:19]
ThickAsThieves thx for the deets mp [04:19]
KRS1 my gawd shes gorgeous [04:20]
KRS1 without even looking at her face lol [04:20]
mircea_popescu who ? [04:21]
KRS1 what is wrong with this dude..what a horrible representation for the exchange [04:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003019 = 0.0906 BTC [-] [04:21]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189093.0 [04:22]
mircea_popescu bitcoin24 actually being prosecuted. [04:22]
mircea_popescu KRS1 no, actually, i think he's the perfect image of mtgox [04:22]
mircea_popescu bloated stupid shit. [04:22]
KRS1 haha yeah guess you are right..im not impressed with the exchange at all..imo i'd rather have something on a console that actually works instead of something that renders pretty in a browser that doesnt [04:23]
KRS1 console/terminal [04:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0163 = 0.1304 BTC [+] [04:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264 BTC [+] [04:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+] [04:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4512 BTC [-] [04:47]
ColdHardMetal that BTC24 news is interesting. if that's ana ctual hand in the cookie jar investigation because "bitcoin!!", that's actually pretty good. [04:54]
ColdHardMetal not because bitcoin that should read [04:55]
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mircea_popescu that;s not what it is. [04:56]
mircea_popescu german bank noticed phised money going to X account [04:56]
mircea_popescu they asked it be closed down and are investigating the idiot for being part of the ring. [04:56]
ColdHardMetal ok. well, if he's clean that's great, and if he's not well, he should go to jail. [04:57]
ColdHardMetal either way, investgation because of fraud better than investigation because "herp derp bitcoin evil" [04:58]
mircea_popescu he's going to jail anyway. what's clean mean ? [04:58]
ColdHardMetal clean in that he's not a knowledgeable party to the fraud. [04:58]
mircea_popescu i never heard of any actual prosecution where this was seriously contemplated. [04:58]
mircea_popescu fact remains phisher sent the money to his accoutn. [04:59]
mircea_popescu he didn't report it as undue with the bank or anything, he's in. [04:59]
ColdHardMetal fair enough. [05:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-] [05:01]
mircea_popescu i mean sure, i'm convinced he's just some random guy who's been operating on some common misrepresentations of how the world works [05:01]
mircea_popescu ie, innocent in the ignorance sense of that term. [05:01]
mircea_popescu nevertheless... [05:01]
ColdHardMetal I'm just content that the legal action isn't being based just on the fact he was handling BTC. [05:02]
ColdHardMetal if it's a legit fraud investigation, than kind of no news really. [05:02]
ColdHardMetal BTCwise. [05:02]
ColdHardMetal whether mere fraud is the actual motivator behind it, I doubt we'll ever know. [05:02]
ColdHardMetal not mere fraud. [05:03]
ColdHardMetal actual fraud [05:03]
ColdHardMetal better turn of phrase. [05:03]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-] [05:10]
mircea_popescu yeah [05:10]
mircea_popescu i'm pretty sure it's not per-btc, just per-fraud. [05:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.lysanderspooner.org/node/35 this is a must-read [05:18]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-] [05:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4681 BTC [+] [05:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 20 @ 0.1999 = 3.998 BTC [+] [05:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4788 = 0.9576 BTC [+] [05:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4683 = 1.4049 BTC [-] [05:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-] [05:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4788 = 1.4364 BTC [+] [05:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4671 = 1.4013 BTC [-] [05:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+] [05:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4788 BTC [+] [05:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2542 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+] [05:59]
mircea_popescu !t m ^oix [06:00]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [06:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.269999 = 12.7 BTC [+] [06:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+] [06:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.289 = 12.89 BTC [+] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1585 @ 0.00070705 = 1.1207 BTC [+] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2615 @ 0.00069449 = 1.8161 BTC [-] [06:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.299 = 12.99 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2989 BTC [-] [06:15]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [12:56]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013 [12:56]
mircea_popescu jurov no it was 12.5 [12:56]
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mircea_popescu o i see, it's 12.5 in the capital expenses and 12 in mpbor line lol. ty. [12:57]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136711955998.jpg [13:00]
mircea_popescu and top o' da mornin' to everyone. [13:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0159 = 0.0318 BTC [-] [13:04]
Chaang-Noi ,prning [13:12]
Chaang-Noi i mean morning [13:12]
mircea_popescu lol. hi. [13:15]
mircea_popescu how's the pietrilla conference ? [13:15]
Chaang-Noi i think he invited you [13:15]
Chaang-Noi he updated his thread [13:15]
Chaang-Noi honestly i dont think anyone will go [13:16]
Chaang-Noi even if it was going to do something its like a week away [13:16]
Chaang-Noi or 2 weeks [13:16]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why is he going so weird about things. [13:16]
mircea_popescu i mean, on the face of it : he seems to have a silver broker business or something. [13:16]
mircea_popescu instead of being sane he's been making himself this assclown all over the forum (way before this supernode thing, if you read his history) [13:16]
Chaang-Noi yeah [13:17]
mircea_popescu i just don't get it. [13:17]
Chaang-Noi i think he just made like a shit load of money and thinks it will keep going up at this rate [13:17]
mircea_popescu he doesn't really sound like that to me, but hey. [13:17]
Chaang-Noi if he bought his 2400 coins at $10 thats a good return for a few months [13:17]
Chaang-Noi maybe he just cant handle the wealthy [13:17]
mircea_popescu get out of here. [13:17]
mircea_popescu he bought his coins by selling silver and buying in the 1-200 range [13:18]
mircea_popescu he's said so, at that time. [13:18]
Chaang-Noi i see [13:18]
Chaang-Noi well... [13:18]
Chaang-Noi i dont know then [13:18]
Chaang-Noi maybe he just expects it to go to crazy, he said 300$ for mBTC in 2014 [13:18]
Chaang-Noi thats like what 20k usd per coins? something silly... [13:19]
mircea_popescu 300k per coin. [13:19]
mircea_popescu 1btc = 1k mbtc neh ? [13:19]
Chaang-Noi thats a bit much [13:19]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber/ [13:19]
Chaang-Noi maybe he is trying to be a btc player but is just too noob to know wtf he is doing [13:19]
mircea_popescu there. if he didn't sell during the collapse, he has some coins bought at 70ish [13:20]
mircea_popescu like 2k btc. [13:20]
Chaang-Noi he said he did not sell at the 200 but told others too [13:20]
Chaang-Noi he claims to have 2.4k ish btc [13:21]
mircea_popescu i mean, if he didn't sell in a panic back in march when btc collapsed to 50, [13:21]
mircea_popescu then he might still have 2, heck, 2.5k btc bought at 72 [13:21]
mircea_popescu which is a pretty decent gains, whatever, 100k usd or what is it [13:22]
Chaang-Noi yeah i remember him talking about buying them at 70ish [13:22]
Chaang-Noi he was trying to get someone to buy for him [13:22]
mircea_popescu so then that's it. [13:22]
Chaang-Noi i wondered if he was a scammer at the time, guess not [13:22]
mircea_popescu well, this is all no proof. [13:22]
Chaang-Noi its in the now locked wall observer thread [13:22]
mircea_popescu it's just if we follow his own declarations there's a coherent construction that can be made. [13:22]
Chaang-Noi he could not even prove he had 13 btc, and lost it to a troll, that was fucking lulz [13:23]
Chaang-Noi im not sure what his conferance is really about, other than showing off how rich he/we are [13:23]
Chaang-Noi seems silly [13:23]
mircea_popescu well basically mpoe-pr was saying he's trying to copy mine [13:23]
mircea_popescu not necessarily a bad idea but he's going assbackwards about things [13:24]
Chaang-Noi you had a conferance? [13:24]
mircea_popescu well yes. [13:26]
Chaang-Noi i did not get the invite:) [13:26]
mircea_popescu well ya, most nobody did. [13:27]
mircea_popescu the select comittee on bitcoin affairs. [13:27]
Chaang-Noi lol [13:27]
Chaang-Noi was it in romania? [13:27]
mircea_popescu yup. [13:28]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ [13:28]
mircea_popescu there, see who you recognise. [13:28]
Chaang-Noi eric and you [13:28]
Chaang-Noi i think iv seen the guy on the far left [13:29]
Chaang-Noi on top photo [13:29]
mircea_popescu well that's something. [13:29]
Chaang-Noi then you pr girl on the lower one [13:30]
Chaang-Noi thats about it [13:30]
mircea_popescu next to her is my cfo and next to her is my lead counsel. [13:30]
Chaang-Noi yeah id not know them [13:30]
mircea_popescu and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto [13:30]
mircea_popescu i guess this is the only biz in bitcoin with more women than men involved or some shit. [13:41]
Chaang-Noi what about the brothels that take btc? [13:41]
mircea_popescu do those exist yet ? [13:42]
Chaang-Noi iv been told they do, in eurpe [13:42]
mircea_popescu eh this legend with europe [13:43]
mircea_popescu before the btc brothel, everyone in bdsm was convinced there exist these magical dungeons "in europe" [13:43]
mircea_popescu for some reason everyone thinks everything they can dream up is in europe. sorta like a modern day xanadu [13:44]
Chaang-Noi iv seen an advertisemnt, could have been a hoax [13:44]
mircea_popescu link ? [13:44]
Chaang-Noi long time ago and it was on tor [13:44]
Chaang-Noi i dont know it was real or not [13:45]
Chaang-Noi i was just looking to see what btc operations were on tor [13:45]
Chaang-Noi evidently some freelancers take btc too [13:45]
mircea_popescu well ya. [13:46]
mircea_popescu it's weird tho, pretty much the money trail is the only way to make a prostitution bust stick [13:46]
mircea_popescu yet afaik the girls haven't figured out bitcoin. [13:46]
mircea_popescu stupid. [13:46]
Chaang-Noi well customers need to have it [13:47]
mircea_popescu customers don't want their car impounded. [13:47]
mircea_popescu i'm not talking about being a lazy ass cokehead and taking whatwever customers have. [13:48]
mircea_popescu i'm talking about being smart. which actually many whores are. [13:48]
Chaang-Noi nefario? lol [13:48]
mircea_popescu lmao [13:48]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,hash 5000 [13:54]
gribble Error: "bc,hash" is not a valid command. [13:54]
mircea_popescu bah. what's the command to eval mining results ? [13:54]
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Chaang-Noi no idea [13:57]
mircea_popescu ;;genrate 5000 [13:57]
gribble The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.280192739128 BTC per day and 0.0116746974637 BTC per hour. [13:57]
Chaang-Noi who is the guy left of eric in the tip photo? [13:57]
mircea_popescu so people are bidding 30 btc on those blade boards for a chance to make .3 a day ? [13:57]
mircea_popescu ridoinculous. [13:57]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi he's in this chan, all i'm gonna say. [13:58]
Chaang-Noi iv seen him before [13:58]
Chaang-Noi jurov? [13:58]
Namworld Everything mining related is now ridiculously expensive [13:58]
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mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi no, jurov is in the other pic [13:59]
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Chaang-Noi well i know iv seen him before [13:59]
Chaang-Noi if not met him [13:59]
mircea_popescu i'm curious if you remember. [13:59]
Chaang-Noi burtw? [14:00]
mircea_popescu Namworld yea i agree. i mean... 100 days to breakeven w/o power or any other costs [14:00]
mircea_popescu and then there's going to be a ton of these deployed [14:00]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi nah [14:00]
mircea_popescu burtw is not in this chan is he [14:00]
Chaang-Noi well i dont know, but im pretty sure iv seen him before somewhere [14:00]
mircea_popescu unless he wants to out himself... [14:01]
Chaang-Noi not a big deal [14:01]
mircea_popescu ;;nethash [14:03]
gribble 72692.2434045 [14:03]
mircea_popescu 72th, srsly ?! [14:04]
mircea_popescu boy we've grown. [14:04]
Chaang-Noi people are buying gpus to mine, no joke [14:04]
mircea_popescu yeah at this price... [14:04]
Chaang-Noi and i wonder if bfl is mining with their half working shit [14:04]
Chaang-Noi id almost buy shit too, and then mine ltc with it [14:04]
Chaang-Noi but im pretty lazy [14:05]
Chaang-Noi AM is adding as well [14:05]
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mircea_popescu "if you get back all your btc, while me and others lost all our fiat, i will do everything to make the site owner life hard not to share the lost beetween customers" [14:08]
mircea_popescu lol. fiat sucks. get used to it. [14:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0159 = 0.0636 BTC [-] [14:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.0163 = 0.3423 BTC [+] [14:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+] [14:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+] [14:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1025 BTC [+] [14:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+] [14:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+] [14:18]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003322 = 0.0066 BTC [+] [14:24]
KRS1 ;;goxlag [14:32]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.860826 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172508566571 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). [14:32]
kakobrekla 13:04.26 ( Chaang-Noi ) people are buying gpus to mine, no joke [14:32]
kakobrekla they are even buying ztex fpga [14:32]
kakobrekla which is like ~1k eur for less than a GH [14:32]
kakobrekla retaded [14:33]
kakobrekla also i have seen icarus which costs 500e or something to go for 15bt [14:33]
kakobrekla a used one ofc. [14:33]
KRS1 wow..whats next? little kids wont even be able go get that new gpu they wanted to play space warriors X for Christmas? [14:34]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [14:35]
mircea_popescu luckily the good gpus (ati) are useless for mining [14:35]
mircea_popescu this may perversely actually destroy nvidia [14:35]
mircea_popescu as we buy all their products they're losing market share in the gaming mkt. [14:35]
KRS1 ATI are useless for mining? Thats all I used to use..hell 3 6970's gave me 1.2 Ghash [14:35]
mircea_popescu or wait no [14:36]
mircea_popescu i got it backwards. nvidia. [14:36]
KRS1 nvidia..the other way round =D [14:36]
mircea_popescu yeah. [14:36]
KRS1 man did they miss the boat on that one [14:36]
KRS1 they were looking for an entirely different market like weather modeling [14:36]
KRS1 sorry for correcting you- easy mistake to make [14:39]
KRS1 lol@bitpotato.com [14:40]
Chaang-Noi kakobrekla you saw on ebay some of the cassicus coins selling for 2k usd? [14:40]
Chaang-Noi people just want into btc [14:40]
KRS1 wtf is next..tampons? [14:40]
kakobrekla yes [14:40]
mircea_popescu what do you mean sorry lol. if you hadn't said anything it'd still be there lol [14:40]
kakobrekla i have some of those coins [14:40]
kakobrekla but i dont have ebay acc [14:40]
Chaang-Noi i have some as well [14:40]
Chaang-Noi yeah same here, fuck ebay [14:40]
kakobrekla Chaang-Noi ill sell for 1k to you and you sell for 2k on bay [14:40]
Chaang-Noi lol [14:40]
Chaang-Noi i have my own but thanks:) also fuck ebay:) [14:40]
kakobrekla hehe [14:40]
kakobrekla this bitcoin is getting all fucked up [14:41]
kakobrekla too main stream [14:41]
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Chaang-Noi haha [14:41]
mircea_popescu omg scam [14:41]
mircea_popescu you know, thios would be pretty cool, iof instead of claiming hack [14:41]
Chaang-Noi just wait until paypal and western union start using it [14:41]
mircea_popescu the scammer start claiming "too lame". [14:41]
Chaang-Noi AM selling 50 blades this time around [14:43]
KRS1 how can i get in on them blades [14:43]
Chaang-Noi auction on the forum [14:43]
kakobrekla urlpls [14:44]
Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248 [14:44]
mircea_popescu ya it was like at 30 [14:44]
Chaang-Noi no paypal [14:44]
mircea_popescu i was saying before, insanity. [14:44]
Chaang-Noi a day left still [14:44]
kakobrekla hmmm [14:44]
Chaang-Noi last went for 75 [14:44]
Chaang-Noi these should go 50 ormore [14:44]
kakobrekla top ptice is 35 now [14:44]
kakobrekla ::calc bc,convert eur [14:45]
mircea_popescu da fuck tho seriously. they are 5gh/s right ? [14:45]
kakobrekla wtf [14:45]
kakobrekla im half sleep [14:45]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [14:45]
gribble 1 BTC = 133.83000 U.S. dollars = 102.732786 Euros [14:45]
kakobrekla also half sheep [14:45]
mircea_popescu shleep [14:45]
mircea_popescu btw did you see the fluorescent sheeps ? [14:45]
kakobrekla hm [14:45]
kakobrekla i dont think so [14:45]
Chaang-Noi they are 10 ghs [14:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.nodeju.com/8327/fluorescent-sheep-born-in-uruguay.html [14:46]
kakobrekla ;;bc,genrate 1 [14:46]
gribble Error: "bc,genrate" is not a valid command. [14:46]
kakobrekla ;;bc,gen 1 [14:46]
gribble use the 'genrate' command instead [14:46]
mircea_popescu ;;genrate 10000 [14:46]
kakobrekla dammit [14:46]
gribble The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour. [14:46]
kakobrekla a [14:46]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi ok so not quite insane as i originally thought. still pretty insane [14:46]
kakobrekla thats 10 jigga hash right [14:46]
mircea_popescu ya [14:46]
kakobrekla sheesh [14:46]
mircea_popescu and! diff is for sure 10mn by end of month [14:47]
mircea_popescu or ealry next [14:47]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [14:47]
gribble Current Blocks: 233564 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 291 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9972380.59898 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.12159 [14:47]
kakobrekla ha [14:47]
kakobrekla that bet [14:47]
kakobrekla ... [14:47]
mircea_popescu ya lol [14:47]
mircea_popescu like JUST on the cusp. [14:47]
mircea_popescu incredible shit. [14:47]
kakobrekla so hm [14:48]
kakobrekla you need 100 days at current diff [14:48]
kakobrekla to get the money back [14:48]
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kakobrekla which is more like 300 [14:48]
kakobrekla on the end [14:48]
kakobrekla if the board lives that long [14:49]
mircea_popescu o look at this. Chaang-Noi apparently you're invited. [14:49]
mircea_popescu "Goat MP satoshi" [14:49]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ikr? [14:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 398 @ 0.005 = 1.99 BTC [+] [14:49]
kakobrekla myea [14:49]
kakobrekla i guess im out [14:49]
mircea_popescu "I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list." [14:50]
mircea_popescu see ? i'm on the forum. you're not. [14:50]
mircea_popescu noob. [14:50]
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mircea_popescu funny list tho [14:50]
kakobrekla where is that from? [14:51]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1965013#msg1965013 [14:51]
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mircea_popescu sorta informative, [14:51]
mircea_popescu shows us what the noobs think are the movers and shakers. [14:51]
mircea_popescu sirius etc. [14:51]
mircea_popescu sorta like asking the tv crowd their idea on who runs america [14:51]
mircea_popescu "that rap producer guy, that boxing promoter guy, obama and that chick on twitter". [14:52]
kakobrekla hm [14:53]
kakobrekla im not on the list. [14:53]
mircea_popescu "The reason there are pledges, which cost more and more when the # of participants is increasing, is that otherwise I would benefit too much from the tickets. The ticket income increases quadratically with the number of admissions, the costs go up perhaps in the 1.5th power. " [14:53]
mircea_popescu this math. bitcoin is based on it. [14:53]
pigeons maff [14:54]
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kakobrekla imma just a sub node sector zappa 6b [14:56]
kakobrekla not relevant enough :( [14:56]
kakobrekla http://vimeo.com/26149808 [14:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+] [15:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+] [15:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+] [15:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299899 = 2.5998 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.3 = 32.5 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.3 = 18.2 BTC [+] [15:09]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla The mystery man came over and he said "I'm outta sight!" [15:10]
mircea_popescu He said for a nominal service charge I could reach nirvana tonight [15:10]
KRS1 I wouldnt mind reaching nirvana at some point..i'm sure it involves a long legged blonde at some point [15:12]
KRS1 d'oh [15:12]
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error4733 ;;next [15:19]
gribble targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 42 seconds ago [15:19]
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Chaang-Noi mp yeah i said you got invited and yeah me too, right along with satoshi, lulz [15:23]
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Chaang-Noi mp that list is mostly people from the wall obeservation thread [15:25]
Chaang-Noi i would not mind going to findland but i really dont think much will come of this [15:25]
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Chaang-Noi lol what? [15:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00300427 = 3.6051 BTC [-] [15:28]
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Uglux wow dat AM auction, and still one day left [15:31]
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ThickAsThieves these call options are overpriced... [15:37]
ThickAsThieves $195 is best breakeven [15:38]
error4733 Mp backstop ;) [15:39]
ThickAsThieves so now we need 50% swings to make any money... [15:39]
ThickAsThieves bastion of satbility that is [15:39]
ThickAsThieves stability* [15:39]
error4733 how many 50% swing this month ? [15:40]
error4733 4? 5? [15:40]
ThickAsThieves except when it was factoring those it was even worse [15:41]
ThickAsThieves also, what about the 2years of history before [15:41]
ThickAsThieves your point makes sense [15:42]
ThickAsThieves but it also cripples options [15:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.79690016 BTC [15:52]
error4733 Haha, [15:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 3 @ 0.45517597 = 1.3655 BTC [-] [15:54]
ThickAsThieves there :/ [15:54]
ThickAsThieves i'll dabble [15:54]
error4733 i'm with you for the call [15:54]
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error4733 just need one drama monday [15:56]
mircea_popescu error4733 ya lol [15:57]
error4733 black april is not finish yet... be ready for the final [15:59]
mircea_popescu "You can easily buy money with coolness. You can hardly buy coolness with money." [16:00]
mircea_popescu dude this thread is gomedy cold. [16:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wtf, is assets +i now ? [16:02]
kakobrekla ops [16:02]
kakobrekla my bad [16:02]
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mircea_popescu ppl were like "invite me plz" i was wtf ?! [16:02]
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KRS-1 ya well I started talking shit about obama and next thing i know my power went out [16:03]
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Chaang-Noi i was kicked? [16:03]
kakobrekla not yet [16:03]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi well ironically i usually go to finland/estonia/whatever in summer [16:03]
mircea_popescu but april kinda early. [16:04]
Chaang-Noi * Cannot join #bitcoin-assets (Channel is invite only). [16:05]
Chaang-Noi well its in may but still [16:05]
Chaang-Noi id be tempted to go if some other btc people were going but its too soon [16:05]
mircea_popescu i kinda don't like these "let's do something everything" affairs tbh. [16:06]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i dont see what will be done, i also dont see who is going [16:06]
KRS-1 Thank you Mircea, you were the only one I could think of. Who can I msg next time or who is ops that is usually here [16:07]
mircea_popescu i don't have ops lol [16:08]
Chaang-Noi kako has ops [16:09]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla if you want +i you probably need to add a whole list of +I first [16:14]
mircea_popescu might not even be the worst idea. [16:14]
mircea_popescu of course +r has the disadvantage that all the noob chicks wanting to go topless mpoe-pr keeps sending over won't be able to get it anymoar. [16:14]
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mircea_popescu !t m ^oix [16:19]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 197.9610204 / 305.88369172 (94 shares, 7.88 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [16:19]
mircea_popescu 200 eh. [16:19]
KRS-1 wtf [16:19]
KRS-1 damnit gribble [16:19]
KRS-1 noobs are buying up those potatos [16:20]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3086 = 2.6172 BTC [+] [16:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3086 = 5.2344 BTC [+] [16:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3086 = 3.9258 BTC [+] [16:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+] [16:53]
kakobrekla or +m and have a voicelist [16:57]
kakobrekla but whatever it will be, it will be after the boobs are found. [16:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 316 @ 0.005 = 1.58 BTC [+] [16:58]
mircea_popescu yeah. trilema is +m and voicelisted. [17:01]
KRS-1 anyone know this cat Betcoin was 6d825f55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.130.95.85 * 109.130.95.85 [17:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28 = 11.52 BTC [-] [17:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065421 = 9.8132 BTC [-] [17:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0006524 = 2.2508 BTC [-] [17:13]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+] [17:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+] [17:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00066367 = 18.0518 BTC [+] [17:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00067064 = 2.3546 BTC [+] [17:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [+] [17:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.015 = 0.09 BTC [-] [17:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-] [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9851 @ 0.00067648 = 6.664 BTC [+] [17:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 55 @ 0.001887 = 0.1038 BTC [+] [17:53]
Chaang-Noi nice to see AM at 1.28 bids:) [18:03]
Chaang-Noi should be really nice this time next week [18:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1998 = 0.3996 BTC [-] [18:39]
mircea_popescu http://www.os-fashion.com/vcs-think-my-boobs-need-an-algorithm/ chick knows her shit. [18:41]
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gribble There are currently 161577.74 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 13993939.8375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0085 seconds [19:09]
gribble There are currently 75062.168 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12494310.4521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0760 seconds [19:09]
thestringpuller tiberiusiv: can we be friends? [19:11]
thestringpuller Or do you only take payment in bitcoin for your friend services? [19:11]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [19:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00010, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03990, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 53937.13488029, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.76267 [19:12]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu wouldn't you say this quote also applies to Paul Graham? >> " the crappy start-ups that got funding at high valuations are struggling and are unable to get Series B funding, dropping like flies, creating a tech bubble" [19:14]
mircea_popescu writing brb. [19:15]
thestringpuller Also mircea_popescu apparently she's the CEO of the company that produces this: http://www.blueseventy.com/products/2012-helix-full-suit [19:16]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mind-your-step/ [19:16]
mircea_popescu aha ? not bad [19:16]
thestringpuller Alright mircea_popescu you win, lemme send you more coin for your paywall [19:18]
thestringpuller .01 gets me how many credits? [19:18]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.60000, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 54078.06233830, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.78047 [19:19]
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mircea_popescu like 1.3k [19:19]
thestringpuller lets do un/pw this time [19:19]
mircea_popescu un/pw ? [19:19]
thestringpuller username password [19:19]
thestringpuller instead of based on ip [19:19]
thestringpuller don't subscribe to the NYT [19:20]
thestringpuller when you can use it as TP instead :P [19:20]
mircea_popescu a ywes. kk. [19:20]
thestringpuller what address should I send to? [19:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [+] [19:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-] [19:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-] [19:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-] [19:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [+] [19:26]
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mircea_popescu so apparently mtgox is writing a new trade engine [19:37]
mircea_popescu in brainfuck. [19:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4399 = 4.399 BTC [+] [19:38]
mircea_popescu ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [19:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+] [19:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+] [19:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+] [19:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I once wrote a FORTH to Brainfuck compiler. Betcha they dug it out from the sands of time and are using it. [19:41]
mircea_popescu was it under 256 bytes ? [19:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: close to that [19:41]
mircea_popescu should fit in ram over 9000 times then [19:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: try it yourself, it isn't hard [19:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+] [19:44]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu I feel as though you allude the biggest problem bitcoin faces is arrogance amongst n00bs... [19:48]
mircea_popescu nah. [19:49]
thestringpuller "I bought in at 10 dollars, now I'm rich" bullshit etc. [19:49]
mircea_popescu well not unless you expand noobs to mean everyone. [19:49]
mircea_popescu i guess arrogance is the universal problem. [19:49]
thestringpuller I would say Keiser is still a n00b. [19:49]
mircea_popescu "i'm too cool to suck cock" "i don't need to learn math" "why should i stop for red lights" etc. [19:49]
thestringpuller He just happens to have money in the bank. [19:50]
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thestringpuller but people who say, "I don't need to learn math" end up coming up short when you give them money to do business. [19:50]
thestringpuller Like EVERYTIME [19:50]
thestringpuller "Oh I thought you wanted 1.40 per sale not 2 dollars" [19:50]
thestringpuller Okay maybe arrogance isn't the proper word. [19:51]
thestringpuller How about "delusional" [19:51]
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asciilifeform problem is, "why should I stop for red light" is mere Darwin-food when the noob has a motorcycle. In the case of BTC, he has a trailer loaded with bricks. [19:51]
mircea_popescu well yes. the divergence between reality and representation and the complacency with the situation. source of all trouble. [19:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform then you question the wisdom of only allowing people on motorcycles until they show they drive well :D [19:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I'm for the "mandatory pedestrian ram" plus "automatic liability of idiots" - method of traffic regulation. [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-] [19:54]
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asciilifeform a la https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine_(video_game) [19:55]
mircea_popescu hey. [19:55]
mircea_popescu you ever played death track ? [19:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4588 = 2.294 BTC [+] [19:56]
thestringpuller lol death track [19:56]
asciilifeform yes [19:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+] [19:56]
mircea_popescu yeah. back in like 1990 [19:56]
thestringpuller i didn't know they had video games in romania [19:56]
mircea_popescu we had gta, except only the cool kids with computers played it [19:56]
thestringpuller HAHAHAHAHA [19:56]
thestringpuller omg [19:56]
thestringpuller quote stolen [19:56]
mircea_popescu lol [19:56]
thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136706164156.jpg < who is the guy on the top picture? [19:57]
thestringpuller btw [19:57]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller some forum clown [19:57]
asciilifeform is that the "Class X BTC Supernode" fellow? [19:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+] [19:58]
mircea_popescu yea [20:00]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu seems the billpay idea actually is working... [20:01]
mircea_popescu which one is that ? [20:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.312 BTC [-] [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31200001 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31499999 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.315 = 4.095 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.31999995 = 2.24 BTC [+] [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31999998 BTC [+] [20:03]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://billpayforcoins.com/ [20:03]
thestringpuller i'm sure that's crossed your browser at some point [20:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0163 = 0.163 BTC [+] [20:04]
mircea_popescu Update - 4/25/2013 [20:04]
mircea_popescu Thank you all for checking us out. We are currently working on restructuring our payment backend to be in full compliance with all government regulations. We will be back up as soon as all our ducks are in a row. [20:04]
mircea_popescu i guess so much for it working. [20:04]
thestringpuller OH WOW [20:04]
thestringpuller hahahaha [20:04]
troc v.interesting, would the coins you spend that way be liable for any taxation as a benefit in kind ? [20:04]
thestringpuller troc: wouldn't that depend on where you pay from? [20:04]
thestringpuller pay via a server in africa I wouldn't think so... [20:05]
thestringpuller WHO THE FUCK IS THIS CLOWN [20:05]
thestringpuller Riley Alexander [20:05]
thestringpuller Co - Founder, Idea Engine, Master Hand Shaker [20:05]
thestringpuller Idea Engine? [20:05]
thestringpuller MASTER HAND SHAKER? [20:05]
thestringpuller "Two-Bit Entrepreneur" [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.468 = 2.808 BTC [+] [20:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+] [20:06]
* thestringpuller sighs [20:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+] [20:06]
mircea_popescu well i dunno wtf that's all about. here you can pay other people's bills [20:06]
mircea_popescu i should know. [20:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4701 = 1.4103 BTC [+] [20:07]
thestringpuller come again mircea_popescu ? [20:07]
mircea_popescu i don't see what regulations they would be breaking. [20:07]
mircea_popescu so i pay X's bill. sooo ? [20:08]
thestringpuller ah [20:08]
thestringpuller I'm just sick of bitcoin entrepreneurs [20:08]
thestringpuller it's becoming worse than YCombinator shit [20:08]
thestringpuller "Hey man I have this AWESOME idea. Girls need bra's right? LETS MAKE A WEBSITE TO GET CUSTOM BRAS" [20:09]
thestringpuller As if Victoria Secret doesn't have that market seized already... [20:09]
troc billpay : say its the mortgage, it could be a neat way to avoid capital gains on BTC no ? [20:09]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller but no panties. [20:12]
mircea_popescu actually there was this french brand made a fortune by selling bra and panty sets [20:13]
mircea_popescu except they had one bra and FIVE matching panties in the pack. [20:13]
mircea_popescu wish i could recall da fuck it was called. [20:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3297 BTC [+] [20:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3298 BTC [+] [20:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-] [20:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+] [20:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32989 BTC [+] [20:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.32999 = 13.2999 BTC [+] [20:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.331 = 9.317 BTC [+] [20:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333334 BTC [+] [20:22]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.337 BTC [+] [20:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.32 = 8.64 BTC [+] [20:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00302262 = 3.0226 BTC [+] [20:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3020 @ 0.00302263 = 9.1283 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.346 BTC [+] [20:32]
kakobrekla moar? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.0 [20:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-] [20:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-] [20:43]
mircea_popescu Our model Our platform is designed to allow the trading of bitcoin for bitcoin. [20:43]
mircea_popescu logical. [20:43]
mircea_popescu Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms. [20:43]
mircea_popescu sigh. [20:43]
kakobrekla hm [20:44]
kakobrekla well, dunno why is it so cryptic about it [20:45]
kakobrekla >BTC.sx is funded privately. We operate with a tier 1 total capital ratio level of 110% minimum. [20:45]
kakobrekla >Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms. [20:46]
kakobrekla who again? [20:46]
mircea_popescu his mom. [20:48]
mircea_popescu "From what I've googled, I understand that scalping helps lower spreads but ultimately, aren't you just betting upon a upward or downward price movement?" [20:49]
mircea_popescu him in 2012. [20:49]
mircea_popescu meanwhile experience happened. at the world's most successful banks [20:49]
mircea_popescu apostrophe's on me. [20:49]
* arij is selling btc for bofa transfer/deposit [20:51]
arij wrong channel [20:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-] [20:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.339 BTC [+] [21:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.34698 = 2.694 BTC [+] [21:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 85 @ 0.35903146 = 30.5177 BTC [+] [21:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3171 BTC [-] [21:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-] [21:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065476 = 3.6667 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0006524 = 2.1203 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [-] [21:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [21:31]
gribble 73988.0257577 [21:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;tslb [21:31]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 7 seconds [21:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [21:32]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 9973647.0479 based on data since last change | 10335850.0809 based on data for last three days [21:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-] [21:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 510 @ 0.003 = 1.53 BTC [-] [21:36]
kakobrekla sooo, whats new [21:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 165 @ 0.01 = 1.65 BTC [+] [21:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+] [21:38]
mircea_popescu there's a new bitcoin exchange [21:40]
mircea_popescu there's a new asic producer [21:40]
mircea_popescu there's a new "investment opportunity" [21:40]
kakobrekla there's a new "gtfo by mpoe-pr post" [21:41]
mircea_popescu that for sure. [21:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [+] [21:42]
kakobrekla anyone got cas coins for sale, i need a few moar [21:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1967971#msg1967971 [21:45]
mircea_popescu ask and thou shalt recieve [21:45]
kakobrekla hm [21:45]
kakobrekla is the definition of who shouldnt be doing what getting broader? [21:45]
mircea_popescu how do you mean ? [21:46]
kakobrekla moar rant [21:49]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189895.msg1968364#msg1968364 [21:49]
kakobrekla bah [21:50]
kakobrekla typo [21:50]
kakobrekla fixd [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4423 @ 0.00066115 = 2.9243 BTC [+] [21:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4965 @ 0.00068029 = 3.3776 BTC [+] [21:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069403 = 3.6784 BTC [+] [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00069498 = 0.834 BTC [+] [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00069884 = 5.5907 BTC [+] [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00071 = 2.4495 BTC [+] [21:59]
benkay for all the bile and hate about children building technology from MPOEPR we have no idea who makes up mircea's team [21:59]
mircea_popescu not following the chan are you :p [21:59]
kakobrekla i think i got contacted by a scammer and he is trying to sell some cas coins (and i think he doest even know what that is) [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+] [21:59]
kakobrekla lets have some fun [21:59]
ThickAsThieves Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms. [21:59]
ThickAsThieves kidding! [21:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+] [22:00]
benkay chan's not terribly persistent or searchable [22:00]
kakobrekla assbot has been keeping logs for a few days now [22:01]
mircea_popescu benkay k 1 sec [22:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00071 = 2.2351 BTC [+] [22:01]
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kakobrekla ill make it public soonish [22:01]
kakobrekla and searchable i guess [22:01]
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ThickAsThieves I have logs for most of the past month or two [22:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49514 @ 0.00071 = 35.1549 BTC [+] [22:02]
kakobrekla i have logs from 1 year ago but they are all fucked up [22:02]
benkay i'm trying to highlight the double standard of "no pro-grade team called out on site, where team is expected to be called out" vs the MPEx approach which is "MPEx is run by someone well versed in power dynamics and getting people to do things. trust him to select the right people to do things." [22:02]
benkay chat logs are not public declaration of team makeup. [22:02]
benkay they're chat logs. [22:02]
kakobrekla thats another issue [22:03]
mircea_popescu benkay http://pastebin.com/VJ2W6xg4 [22:03]
mircea_popescu towards the end [22:03]
benkay nope [22:04]
benkay but who are those humans? [22:04]
benkay "cfo" [22:05]
benkay "lead counsel" [22:05]
benkay "exercise to reader" [22:05]
benkay rly? [22:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+] [22:05]
benkay no names [22:05]
benkay no employment histories [22:05]
mircea_popescu heh. mkay. [22:05]
benkay no demonstrations of past success. [22:05]
mircea_popescu martha is already named there. she's named on the domain registratiosn too. [22:05]
mircea_popescu http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2002JulSep/0110.html [22:05]
mircea_popescu for instance. [22:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [-] [22:06]
mircea_popescu the famous court proceedings where i beat back the romanian govt had been amply linked but i guess you never saw that. [22:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+] [22:06]
mircea_popescu guy's name is florin cristescu, it's all over that. [22:06]
benkay have not, not. [22:06]
mircea_popescu in other words : none of this is a secret, it's known by people who care to know as it were. [22:06]
benkay but if I say, 'dear mircea_popescu, where would I go to learn about the amazing team you've assembled to run your business?' your answer is 'do some research, child' [22:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002753 BTC [-] [22:08]
mircea_popescu you do see why dominant position would ensure one such luxury [22:08]
benkay which induces a bit of culture shock, in that i generally expect people to be proud of the team they work with, and eager to show that they're above board and real grownups etc. [22:08]
benkay oh of course [22:08]
mircea_popescu whereas being an upstart would not ? [22:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] [22:08]
mircea_popescu after all, i'm not proving myself to random unknown noob on the forum [22:09]
mircea_popescu he is proving himself to me. [22:09]
mircea_popescu trust is this directional affair. [22:09]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I just sold some panties for 1 bitcoin [22:09]
mircea_popescu if he doesn't trust me that's pretty much of no import. if i don't trust him that's a serious impairment on his future. [22:09]
thestringpuller we should drop this exchange nonsense and get into the lingerie business yo [22:10]
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kakobrekla hm panties4btc [22:11]
benkay I guess I'm just bemused by the difference in approach towards image in your area. [22:11]
benkay "but i lols so powerful image is nothing" [22:12]
mircea_popescu i don't follow benkay ? [22:12]
benkay big American companies are obsessed with image. [22:12]
benkay big American investors are obsessed with image. [22:13]
benkay transparency, etc. [22:13]
FabianB image != transparency [22:13]
mircea_popescu yeah i thin kthere's some conflation at work here. [22:13]
benkay image = f(transparency and other shit) [22:13]
mircea_popescu not really, no. but anyway. it isn't/never was a matter of "do some research child". in the sense that i answered if asked, but in general stuff is known. [22:14]
benkay so returning to culture shock, I'm accustomed to things being indexed instead of known [22:15]
mircea_popescu yeah. [22:15]
mircea_popescu hey, it's btc you know ? [22:15]
mircea_popescu i'm giving a slightly different approach a go. [22:16]
benkay and you're endeavoring to write new rules, I get it. [22:16]
mircea_popescu well at least make some motherfucking sense [22:16]
ThickAsThieves benkay, i suspect mp's people would prefer their privacy over "image" [22:16]
ThickAsThieves i know i would [22:16]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves some care more than others. [22:16]
mircea_popescu it's an issue here, i mean : for years the ONLY way you could get anyone with any sort of license to even consider bitcoin [22:16]
mircea_popescu is if you swore on dead saints you will never release their name [22:17]
benkay so this veers into philosophy and prognostication, but how much longer can anyone expect any information to remain unindexed? [22:17]
mircea_popescu this because being a financial professional is highly regulated, they'd have to get an ok from their compliance officer, [22:17]
mircea_popescu which would never happen etc. [22:17]
benkay consider bitcoin what? [22:17]
mircea_popescu benkay indefinitely in principle. unless something happens to show me the model is fundamentally flawed, i think it will carry on forever. [22:17]
mircea_popescu benkay consider bitcoin. in their head. [22:18]
benkay but if you hire them and their compliance officer?did you contract with existing financial firms to do accounting and backoffice etc? [22:18]
benkay also I hate asking questions that have been answered already. aversion to repetition and all that. [22:19]
mircea_popescu no listen. the year is 2011. i get excited about this new btc thing. i know what it needs to have a chance. i know i need help. i know whose help i need. [22:19]
mircea_popescu i talk to these people. well... they can't get involved. [22:19]
mircea_popescu so what now / [22:19]
benkay why can't they get involved? risking their licensure? [22:19]
mircea_popescu do you know how this profession is organised ? [22:20]
benkay in the us? to an extent. in romania? no clue. [22:20]
benkay and which profession? [22:20]
ThickAsThieves I'm not sure why eother of you think this conversation will go anywhere [22:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves naivite. [22:21]
benkay mp knows i'm actually trying to learn stuff [22:21]
mircea_popescu benkay basically, it's a team of people with various types of licenses, a boss, a compliance officer and some more sdupport roles. [22:21]
mircea_popescu the rule - simplified - is that nobody can get involved into ANYTHING related to their day job even vaguely [22:22]
mircea_popescu w/o clearing it with the compliance officer. [22:22]
mircea_popescu this includes things like giving interviews even. [22:22]
benkay got it. so everyone's doing this as a side job? [22:22]
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mircea_popescu people (actual people in this chan) have been sacked for nonsense like, telling a reporter they make a lot of money and are living the life. [22:22]
mircea_popescu now. the compliance officer is NEVER going to ok something like "bitcoin". because he only ok's on positive factual knowledge it's ok. [22:23]
mircea_popescu so if it's dubious, then it's not gettiong ok. [22:23]
mircea_popescu so, to round this up : for all the bullshit "we're getting ws involved" coming out of purely puff style start-ups like coin-whatever, [22:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3001 BTC [-] [22:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-] [22:24]
mircea_popescu ws people were involved since 2011/early 2012, in the only way they could be. [22:24]
mircea_popescu which is, secretly. [22:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-] [22:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-] [22:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269001 BTC [-] [22:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.269 = 19.035 BTC [-] [22:25]
benkay that makes a startling amount of sense. [22:26]
mircea_popescu that's as to why you will likely never know who's on my short list of people i talk to / scream at / with on macroeconomic topics, finance etc. [22:26]
mircea_popescu now, the coders are often uninterested in talking to the public. [22:26]
mircea_popescu other than that, some people don't care, which is why you get the names/mugs of some people. [22:26]
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benkay and you anticipate maintaining the privacy wall indefinitely? [22:28]
mircea_popescu 0/1/infinity is the rule [22:28]
benkay hah [22:28]
mircea_popescu since i'm doing it it's not 0. unless some sort of obvious 1 hits me over the head [22:28]
mircea_popescu it's infinity. [22:28]
ThickAsThieves so at this get together, did some people not tell others who they were? [22:29]
ThickAsThieves or do all involved know eachother's identity [22:29]
mircea_popescu some people met in person lol. some haven't. each his cup of tea [22:30]
benkay 0 information leakage is a secret kept by 1 person. some information leakage happens when more than 1 person knows stuff. eventually, all information will leak. infinity? [22:30]
ThickAsThieves its obv much cooler if some attendees used fake names [22:30]
mircea_popescu ya, eventually all information will leak which is why you know who killed kennedy or w/e [22:31]
benkay hm. [22:31]
ThickAsThieves hehe [22:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2681 BTC [-] [22:31]
benkay that's more of a signal to noise claim, sir. [22:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [-] [22:31]
mircea_popescu just making the point that information will leak is this proposition of statistics [22:32]
mircea_popescu it may be true, but it may not help you. [22:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2671 BTC [-] [22:32]
benkay oh granted [22:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.267 = 8.869 BTC [-] [22:32]
benkay but there's lots of noise in the market and some traders manage to beat the mean year after year [22:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-] [22:32]
mircea_popescu well other than that i was answering the q of how long im doing something [22:32]
mircea_popescu not how long it works [22:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-] [22:32]
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ezdiy mircea_popescu: what about information which leaks once its harmless? [22:33]
ezdiy to lump it all together does not seem right [22:33]
mircea_popescu yeah. [22:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [-] [22:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-] [22:33]
ThickAsThieves it's amazing how this conversation gets more and more interesting [22:33]
ezdiy (but the statistics holds indeed) [22:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-] [22:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] [22:33]
kakobrekla ThickAsThieves you just fucked it up [22:33]
mircea_popescu lol [22:34]
ThickAsThieves ;) [22:34]
ThickAsThieves any time [22:34]
ThickAsThieves but really, it started as benkay asking what give mpoe-pr/mpex/mp the right to question others experience, and turned into, i dunno [22:35]
benkay no not question [22:35]
benkay everyone has the right to question [22:35]
benkay expressed shock at attitude of "who are you" when we know, like, MP [22:35]
ThickAsThieves sometimes my words mean more than what the dictionarys defines them as [22:35]
kakobrekla i think that means using it wrong [22:36]
ThickAsThieves i prefer "creatively" [22:36]
benkay success in comms is expressing things in a way that everyone understands [22:37]
benkay failure in comms is ambiguity [22:37]
ThickAsThieves did realize what i said was so confusing... [22:37]
ThickAsThieves didnt* [22:37]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: do you have steam? [22:37]
mircea_popescu nope [22:38]
thestringpuller I'ma buy you the GTA complete pack [22:38]
Scrat boring conversation [22:38]
Scrat http://i.imgur.com/5nvlW.gif [22:38]
Scrat (sfw) [22:39]
Scrat I used to work close to the beach, would be sfw then [22:40]
Scrat sadly no [22:43]
jurov folks, if there is anyone still interested in MPOE bonds passthrough or has workable ideas, [22:52]
jurov discuss here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1968876#msg1968876 [22:52]
jurov We have one month hiatus to come up with something. [22:52]
dub ;;nethash [22:53]
gribble 73971.4334572 [22:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 378.21006095 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 75 satoshi per share [22:56]
benkay wowee [22:57]
jurov ooooook [22:57]
mircea_popescu that's it, one full year of dividends ftw. [22:58]
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jurov ;;calc 37821006095/500000000 [23:01]
gribble 75.64201219 [23:01]
jurov why my fkn code insists on 39 satoshi? [23:03]
mircea_popescu jurov maybe an idea is to get a limited hedging involved. [23:03]
mircea_popescu as in, buy some options on the same package as the bond. maybe everyone buying shares gets to vote which way to go, calls or puts [23:03]
mircea_popescu course all this is becoming rather complicated. [23:04]
jurov and then vote when they should be sold/exercised.. yeah [23:05]
jurov (that was ironic yeah) [23:05]
mircea_popescu yeah i know... [23:05]
ThickAsThieves I wanted to do an options fund, but current pricing makes it seem like it'd most likely be a loser as well [23:06]
jurov i had some preliminary idea with smickles to have alternative bot [23:06]
jurov that could also hedge per option sold [23:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well listen you can't BOTH be losers. [23:06]
jurov but he's not around anymore [23:06]
mircea_popescu i am suspecting the bot is exactly right because everyone agrees price is making them lose money [23:06]
ThickAsThieves bot is def playing it smarter [23:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2551 BTC [+] [23:07]
ThickAsThieves but opportunity for profit for both bond holders and option buyers has been very minimized [23:07]
mircea_popescu no but let's run a model here. so, 1k btc bond. [23:07]
mircea_popescu if past data is any indication, say a 200% upswing or 60% downswing causes losses of about 25% [23:08]
mircea_popescu so then you need calls that will make 250 btc if price goes up 3x [23:08]
mircea_popescu and puts that make 250 btc if price goes down 60% [23:08]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.39998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 132.40000, 24 hour volume: 29432.97051216, 24 hour low: 126.01101, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.09045 [23:09]
mircea_popescu 132*3 [23:09]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 132*3 [23:09]
gribble 396 [23:09]
mircea_popescu O.USD.C302T for instance will make about .25 each if price goes there. so you need 100 these [23:09]
ThickAsThieves *could* happen... [23:09]
mircea_popescu i mean 1000 these [23:09]
mircea_popescu so they cost like 70 btc. [23:09]
mircea_popescu the call side cost to hedge the bond is then 7% [23:10]
mircea_popescu (if these numbers are worth a shit at all) [23:10]
ThickAsThieves problem is, the price is more likely to move maybe 50% upward, or 25% downward this month (very roughly speaking) [23:11]
Scrat lol ThickAsThieves [23:11]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so then sell short puts/calls [23:12]
mircea_popescu that'll make you money in that scenario [23:12]
ThickAsThieves i'm not interested in creating options [23:13]
ThickAsThieves too much risk ;) [23:13]
ThickAsThieves i want easy money obv [23:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26502 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-] [23:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-] [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-] [23:15]
mircea_popescu ya well, sometimes those curves meet [23:17]
mircea_popescu fear, greed, cleverness [23:18]
KRS-1 thickasthieves what a good buy point ya think [23:20]
KRS-1 i cashed out at $147 for the most part [23:20]
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ThickAsThieves isnt that kinda q what bitc-anal channel is for? [23:21]
ThickAsThieves but to answer your question, i have bids lined up incrementally from 126ish downward [23:22]
mircea_popescu “Birchbox requested 300,000 units of a product for free; in return, they said that could offer a conservative purchase order of 400 units for that product if it was received well by their sampling audience.” Birchbox also requested a special sample size, which Ms. Chan would need to create, that would yield at least 3 uses of the product. After Ms. Chan negotiated with them, they lowered the amount of requested fre [23:24]
mircea_popescu e product to 75,000 and then to 50,000 units (for a more targeted customer base). Birchbox only wanted to pay for a purchase order of 400 units after receiving 50,000 units for free. [23:24]
mircea_popescu lmao. basically people think cheek equals business nao [23:25]
KRS-1 Mircea is the owner and master of #bitcoin-anal, if he can find it in his good will, I would not mind being Curator of all culture anal that is also bitcoin. [23:25]
KRS-1 Ya thanks for your insight, thats where I was but I pulled down to $110-$105 and $100 when I saw the rising wedge pattern. [23:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] [23:26]
mircea_popescu wait what ? [23:27]
ThickAsThieves hehe [23:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you need a better forum avatar. [23:30]
Scrat me too [23:30]
Scrat too furry for my taste [23:30]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134679696766.jpg [23:30]
mircea_popescu crop that for instance. [23:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [+] [23:31]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 59 @ 0.0163 = 0.9617 BTC [+] [23:38]
KRS-1 I'd hit that [23:39]
KRS-1 not my taste but damn [23:40]
benkay "big girls need love too" [23:42]
jurov lol i meant to have serious word with mpex staff, but was under impression they are not there [23:45]
jurov now i'm reading i sat practically next to the cto, martha [23:46]
jurov plus got blindsided by teh lawyer "we dun do english, it's unlike romanian" [23:46]
mircea_popescu jurov lol. he's not very english friendly [23:47]
mircea_popescu anyway, girl next to the lawyer is the cfo [23:48]
mircea_popescu money girl. [23:48]
jurov "and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto" << so you accidentally a letter [23:48]
jurov oh there are wo women [23:49]
ThickAsThieves but who took the photos [23:49]
ThickAsThieves a slave? [23:49]
jurov ThickAsThieves: they have waitresses in romania, ya know [23:49]
ThickAsThieves pshaw [23:50]
jurov okay, nevermind [23:51]
jurov the lawyer was actually trying to do something in english. but then i mentioned german,and *then* he got derpy [23:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1999 = 0.9995 BTC [+] [23:54]
jurov so i should prolly learn french, italian, romanian, or gypsy or whatever to be able to talk to mpex lawyer... [23:54]
ThickAsThieves heh, there's a my little pony called Derpy https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIF1scwXYZkmC1WaLxSZEq31VPMnkMGxnAjYuBhmtTBxcSt_VJ [23:54]
jurov mircea, tell him "te šukar čhavo" from me [23:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-] [23:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30839 BTC [+] [23:57]
mircea_popescu lol [23:58]
mircea_popescu what do you need romanian lawyer for anyway ? [23:58]
jurov just in case [23:58]
mircea_popescu haha [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0165 = 0.0825 BTC [+] [23:59]
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