Forum logs for 28 Apr 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1975 BTC [-] | [00:02] |
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jurov | ;;seen mircea_popescu | [00:07] |
gribble | mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: |
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KRS1 | whats coming | [00:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.238 BTC [-] | [00:10] |
jurov | KRS1, read 10 lines back | [00:12] |
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jurov | cnat raed ... better crawl back to #bitcoin-anal | [00:13] |
jurov | (my apologies if KRS-1 is someone else) | [00:14] |
jurov | ;) | [00:15] |
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kakobrekla | ;;bc,stats | [00:19] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 233461 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 394 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9935074.73308 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.7059 | [00:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30000001 = 0.6 BTC [-] | [00:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-] | [00:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.176101 BTC [-] | [00:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1761 BTC [-] | [00:43] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17602 BTC [-] | [00:44] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] | [00:48] |
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mjr___ | hi all | [00:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4571 = 1.8284 BTC [-] | [00:55] |
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jurov | hi mjr___ | [01:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00311 = 0.1244 BTC [-] | [01:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-] | [01:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0031 BTC [-] | [01:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4679 = 0.9358 BTC [+] | [01:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4679 = 3.2753 BTC [+] | [01:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00068812 = 4.2663 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00068289 = 1.5706 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00068967 = 1.0345 BTC [+] | [01:28] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.477999 BTC [+] | [01:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4641 BTC [-] | [01:40] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2241 BTC [-] | [01:41] |
mjr___ | geez its hard to get bitcoins or sell bitcoins | [01:43] |
mod6 | can't just do an otc trade with someone? | [01:43] |
mjr___ | tough | [01:44] |
mjr___ | $20,000 USD in cash | [01:44] |
mjr___ | not easy to make that happen in one day | [01:45] |
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mjr___ | gox verification queue | [01:45] |
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mjr___ | limits on bitinstant | [01:45] |
mjr___ | what is the best escrow service? | [01:45] |
mod6 | not sure, could ask around in #bitcoin-escrow ? | [01:46] |
joecool | !ident mjr___ | [01:46] |
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joecool | ..ident mjr___ | [01:46] |
joecool | meh | [01:46] |
joecool | ;;ident mjr___ | [01:46] |
gribble | Nick 'mjr___', with hostmask 'mjr___!mjr_@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX | [01:46] |
mjr___ | ;;ident mjr_ | [01:46] |
gribble | Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'MJR_!~mjr_@72.5.43.201', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX | [01:46] |
mjr___ | that's me | [01:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.4641 = 3.2487 BTC [-] | [01:50] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] | [01:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-] | [01:58] |
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ThickAsThieves | Is mpexbot selling options yet? | [02:01] |
mod6 | not yet | [02:01] |
ThickAsThieves | is there a problem or just waiting til Monday or such? | [02:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7330 @ 0.00068967 = 5.0553 BTC [+] | [02:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00069036 = 1.2937 BTC [+] | [02:04] |
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mod6 | ThickAsThieves: no idea | [02:05] |
ThickAsThieves | :/ | [02:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4778 = 3.8224 BTC [+] | [02:10] |
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dub | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187730.msg1947140#msg1947140 | [02:16] |
dub | obvious usagi sock is obvious | [02:16] |
nospinzy | what would be a good start up | [02:17] |
ThickAsThieves | Groupon | [02:32] |
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mod6 | lol | [02:33] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20296 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20295 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20241 BTC [-] | [02:35] |
ThickAsThieves | love me some daily deals! | [02:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8476 @ 0.00069036 = 5.8515 BTC [+] | [02:36] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2021 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.202 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2031 BTC [+] | [02:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.203 BTC [-] | [02:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4715 @ 0.0006991 = 3.2963 BTC [+] | [02:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1885 @ 0.00069922 = 1.318 BTC [+] | [02:54] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4778 BTC [+] | [02:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.210001 BTC [+] | [03:03] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+] | [03:13] |
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mircea_popescu | whoa the miracle | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | jurov well the idea is i publish friday pay next day in case there's errors found or anything. | [03:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00069922 = 1.5033 BTC [+] | [03:14] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+] | [03:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2497 = 11.2473 BTC [+] | [03:16] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2498 BTC [+] | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | so anyone know this Priambelenge guy / | [03:16] |
jcpham | nope | [03:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.249899 = 7.4994 BTC [+] | [03:17] |
jcpham | i noticed that retarded thread is still going though | [03:17] |
jcpham | that guy and his diary | [03:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-] | [03:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.22 = 30.5 BTC [-] | [03:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.259 BTC [+] | [03:18] |
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mircea_popescu | ya this guy is like, hi i'm organising an event we will have hedge funds would you like to speak. then he leaves. | [03:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] | [03:19] |
mircea_popescu | i'm like... ok. so if i want to speak what do i do, send a message to your webchat ip ? | [03:19] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] | [03:19] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+] | [03:20] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.198 = 6.93 BTC [+] | [03:20] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+] | [03:20] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.201 BTC [-] | [03:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.2 = 36 BTC [-] | [03:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.20101 BTC [+] | [03:24] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25899 BTC [+] | [03:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.C320T] 20 @ 0.05733111 = 1.1466 BTC | [03:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33998 BTC [-] | [03:29] |
Namworld | C320? I can sell some of those anytime... | [03:29] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @ 0.33999 = 2.0399 BTC [+] | [03:30] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.34 = 1.7 BTC [+] | [03:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.33999 BTC [-] | [03:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.36879 BTC [+] | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | lol so offer for less than 5 cents | [03:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.P056T] 50 @ 0.05154951 = 2.5775 BTC | [03:39] |
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mircea_popescu | !t ^oix | [03:41] |
assbot | Your actions are useless. | [03:41] |
mircea_popescu | !t , ^oix | [03:41] |
assbot | Have you got any tobacco? | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | !t m ^oix | [03:42] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 53.25474403 / (50 shares, 2.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [03:42] |
mircea_popescu | sooo... it's back. lol | [03:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.C260T] 20 @ 0.09950213 = 1.99 BTC [-] | [03:44] |
mircea_popescu | !t m ^oix | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [03:45] |
mircea_popescu | and also balanced now. | [03:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.477999 = 7.17 BTC [+] | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 was pretty cool vid fo sho. | [03:47] |
mircea_popescu | [03:47] | |
mircea_popescu | SlipperySlope the way this works is, mpoe results are published the weekend after close. i usually try and so far have managed to publish within 1-2 hours of actual close. | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | then the results sit for a day, if anyone finds errors or has q's or w/e. | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | then payments are made. | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | so reasonably anyone depending on mpoe payouts on the end of a month would be making payments no sooner than 24 hours after results published. | [03:49] |
mircea_popescu | [03:50] | |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:51] |
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mircea_popescu | o, almost forgot. | [03:51] |
mircea_popescu | new gf ---> http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136667488555.jpg | [03:52] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [03:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.009999 = 0.16 BTC [+] | [03:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5465 @ 0.00069922 = 3.8212 BTC [+] | [04:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070335 = 3.3057 BTC [+] | [04:02] |
kakobrekla | OUCH | [04:13] |
kakobrekla | http://www.bloomberg.com/video/seeing-huge-increase-in-bitcoin-customers-karpeles-xsmrZuQxQ2CIkPQoeeDJsA.html | [04:13] |
mircea_popescu | he's lieing. | [04:14] |
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kakobrekla | on which part | [04:16] |
kakobrekla | did you see this vid? | [04:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00302 = 0.0453 BTC [-] | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | on the "moar customers" opart. | [04:19] |
KRS1 | wtf he can't talk or is something stuck up his ass | [04:19] |
ThickAsThieves | thx for the deets mp | [04:19] |
KRS1 | my gawd shes gorgeous | [04:20] |
KRS1 | without even looking at her face lol | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | who ? | [04:21] |
KRS1 | what is wrong with this dude..what a horrible representation for the exchange | [04:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003019 = 0.0906 BTC [-] | [04:21] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189093.0 | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin24 actually being prosecuted. | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | KRS1 no, actually, i think he's the perfect image of mtgox | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | bloated stupid shit. | [04:22] |
KRS1 | haha yeah guess you are right..im not impressed with the exchange at all..imo i'd rather have something on a console that actually works instead of something that renders pretty in a browser that doesnt | [04:23] |
KRS1 | console/terminal | [04:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0163 = 0.1304 BTC [+] | [04:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264 BTC [+] | [04:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+] | [04:34] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4512 BTC [-] | [04:47] |
ColdHardMetal | that BTC24 news is interesting. if that's ana ctual hand in the cookie jar investigation because "bitcoin!!", that's actually pretty good. | [04:54] |
ColdHardMetal | not because bitcoin that should read | [04:55] |
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mircea_popescu | that;s not what it is. | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | german bank noticed phised money going to X account | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | they asked it be closed down and are investigating the idiot for being part of the ring. | [04:56] |
ColdHardMetal | ok. well, if he's clean that's great, and if he's not well, he should go to jail. | [04:57] |
ColdHardMetal | either way, investgation because of fraud better than investigation because "herp derp bitcoin evil" | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu | he's going to jail anyway. what's clean mean ? | [04:58] |
ColdHardMetal | clean in that he's not a knowledgeable party to the fraud. | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu | i never heard of any actual prosecution where this was seriously contemplated. | [04:58] |
mircea_popescu | fact remains phisher sent the money to his accoutn. | [04:59] |
mircea_popescu | he didn't report it as undue with the bank or anything, he's in. | [04:59] |
ColdHardMetal | fair enough. | [05:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-] | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | i mean sure, i'm convinced he's just some random guy who's been operating on some common misrepresentations of how the world works | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | ie, innocent in the ignorance sense of that term. | [05:01] |
mircea_popescu | nevertheless... | [05:01] |
ColdHardMetal | I'm just content that the legal action isn't being based just on the fact he was handling BTC. | [05:02] |
ColdHardMetal | if it's a legit fraud investigation, than kind of no news really. | [05:02] |
ColdHardMetal | BTCwise. | [05:02] |
ColdHardMetal | whether mere fraud is the actual motivator behind it, I doubt we'll ever know. | [05:02] |
ColdHardMetal | not mere fraud. | [05:03] |
ColdHardMetal | actual fraud | [05:03] |
ColdHardMetal | better turn of phrase. | [05:03] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-] | [05:10] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [05:10] |
mircea_popescu | i'm pretty sure it's not per-btc, just per-fraud. | [05:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.lysanderspooner.org/node/35 this is a must-read | [05:18] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-] | [05:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4681 BTC [+] | [05:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 20 @ 0.1999 = 3.998 BTC [+] | [05:28] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4788 = 0.9576 BTC [+] | [05:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4683 = 1.4049 BTC [-] | [05:33] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4651 = 1.3953 BTC [-] | [05:43] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-] | [05:44] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4788 = 1.4364 BTC [+] | [05:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4671 = 1.4013 BTC [-] | [05:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+] | [05:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4788 BTC [+] | [05:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2542 BTC [+] | [05:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+] | [05:59] |
mircea_popescu | !t m ^oix | [06:00] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.25474403 / 141.37575896 / 339.46171704 (70 shares, 3.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [06:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4788 = 0.9576 BTC [+] | [06:03] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.269999 = 12.7 BTC [+] | [06:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+] | [06:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.289 = 12.89 BTC [+] | [06:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1585 @ 0.00070705 = 1.1207 BTC [+] | [06:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2615 @ 0.00069449 = 1.8161 BTC [-] | [06:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.299 = 12.99 BTC [+] | [06:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2989 BTC [-] | [06:15] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4788 = 1.4364 BTC [+] | [06:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00071 = 4.047 BTC [+] | [06:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.46 = 4.14 BTC [-] | [06:27] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov no it was 12.5 | [12:56] |
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mircea_popescu | o i see, it's 12.5 in the capital expenses and 12 in mpbor line lol. ty. | [12:57] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136711955998.jpg | [13:00] |
mircea_popescu | and top o' da mornin' to everyone. | [13:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0159 = 0.0318 BTC [-] | [13:04] |
Chaang-Noi | ,prning | [13:12] |
Chaang-Noi | i mean morning | [13:12] |
mircea_popescu | lol. hi. | [13:15] |
mircea_popescu | how's the pietrilla conference ? | [13:15] |
Chaang-Noi | i think he invited you | [13:15] |
Chaang-Noi | he updated his thread | [13:15] |
Chaang-Noi | honestly i dont think anyone will go | [13:16] |
Chaang-Noi | even if it was going to do something its like a week away | [13:16] |
Chaang-Noi | or 2 weeks | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | i have no idea why is he going so weird about things. | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | i mean, on the face of it : he seems to have a silver broker business or something. | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | instead of being sane he's been making himself this assclown all over the forum (way before this supernode thing, if you read his history) | [13:16] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | i just don't get it. | [13:17] |
Chaang-Noi | i think he just made like a shit load of money and thinks it will keep going up at this rate | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | he doesn't really sound like that to me, but hey. | [13:17] |
Chaang-Noi | if he bought his 2400 coins at $10 thats a good return for a few months | [13:17] |
Chaang-Noi | maybe he just cant handle the wealthy | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | get out of here. | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | he bought his coins by selling silver and buying in the 1-200 range | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | he's said so, at that time. | [13:18] |
Chaang-Noi | i see | [13:18] |
Chaang-Noi | well... | [13:18] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont know then | [13:18] |
Chaang-Noi | maybe he just expects it to go to crazy, he said 300$ for mBTC in 2014 | [13:18] |
Chaang-Noi | thats like what 20k usd per coins? something silly... | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | 300k per coin. | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | 1btc = 1k mbtc neh ? | [13:19] |
Chaang-Noi | thats a bit much | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber/ | [13:19] |
Chaang-Noi | maybe he is trying to be a btc player but is just too noob to know wtf he is doing | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | there. if he didn't sell during the collapse, he has some coins bought at 70ish | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | like 2k btc. | [13:20] |
Chaang-Noi | he said he did not sell at the 200 but told others too | [13:20] |
Chaang-Noi | he claims to have 2.4k ish btc | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | i mean, if he didn't sell in a panic back in march when btc collapsed to 50, | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | then he might still have 2, heck, 2.5k btc bought at 72 | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | which is a pretty decent gains, whatever, 100k usd or what is it | [13:22] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah i remember him talking about buying them at 70ish | [13:22] |
Chaang-Noi | he was trying to get someone to buy for him | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | so then that's it. | [13:22] |
Chaang-Noi | i wondered if he was a scammer at the time, guess not | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | well, this is all no proof. | [13:22] |
Chaang-Noi | its in the now locked wall observer thread | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | it's just if we follow his own declarations there's a coherent construction that can be made. | [13:22] |
Chaang-Noi | he could not even prove he had 13 btc, and lost it to a troll, that was fucking lulz | [13:23] |
Chaang-Noi | im not sure what his conferance is really about, other than showing off how rich he/we are | [13:23] |
Chaang-Noi | seems silly | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | well basically mpoe-pr was saying he's trying to copy mine | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | not necessarily a bad idea but he's going assbackwards about things | [13:24] |
Chaang-Noi | you had a conferance? | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | well yes. | [13:26] |
Chaang-Noi | i did not get the invite:) | [13:26] |
mircea_popescu | well ya, most nobody did. | [13:27] |
mircea_popescu | the select comittee on bitcoin affairs. | [13:27] |
Chaang-Noi | lol | [13:27] |
Chaang-Noi | was it in romania? | [13:27] |
mircea_popescu | yup. | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | there, see who you recognise. | [13:28] |
Chaang-Noi | eric and you | [13:28] |
Chaang-Noi | i think iv seen the guy on the far left | [13:29] |
Chaang-Noi | on top photo | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | well that's something. | [13:29] |
Chaang-Noi | then you pr girl on the lower one | [13:30] |
Chaang-Noi | thats about it | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | next to her is my cfo and next to her is my lead counsel. | [13:30] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah id not know them | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | i guess this is the only biz in bitcoin with more women than men involved or some shit. | [13:41] |
Chaang-Noi | what about the brothels that take btc? | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | do those exist yet ? | [13:42] |
Chaang-Noi | iv been told they do, in eurpe | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | eh this legend with europe | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | before the btc brothel, everyone in bdsm was convinced there exist these magical dungeons "in europe" | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | for some reason everyone thinks everything they can dream up is in europe. sorta like a modern day xanadu | [13:44] |
Chaang-Noi | iv seen an advertisemnt, could have been a hoax | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | link ? | [13:44] |
Chaang-Noi | long time ago and it was on tor | [13:44] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont know it was real or not | [13:45] |
Chaang-Noi | i was just looking to see what btc operations were on tor | [13:45] |
Chaang-Noi | evidently some freelancers take btc too | [13:45] |
mircea_popescu | well ya. | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | it's weird tho, pretty much the money trail is the only way to make a prostitution bust stick | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | yet afaik the girls haven't figured out bitcoin. | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | stupid. | [13:46] |
Chaang-Noi | well customers need to have it | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | customers don't want their car impounded. | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | i'm not talking about being a lazy ass cokehead and taking whatwever customers have. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | i'm talking about being smart. which actually many whores are. | [13:48] |
Chaang-Noi | nefario? lol | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,hash 5000 | [13:54] |
gribble | Error: "bc,hash" is not a valid command. | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | bah. what's the command to eval mining results ? | [13:54] |
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Chaang-Noi | no idea | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | ;;genrate 5000 | [13:57] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.280192739128 BTC per day and 0.0116746974637 BTC per hour. | [13:57] |
Chaang-Noi | who is the guy left of eric in the tip photo? | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | so people are bidding 30 btc on those blade boards for a chance to make .3 a day ? | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | ridoinculous. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi he's in this chan, all i'm gonna say. | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | iv seen him before | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | jurov? | [13:58] |
Namworld | Everything mining related is now ridiculously expensive | [13:58] |
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mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi no, jurov is in the other pic | [13:59] |
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Chaang-Noi | well i know iv seen him before | [13:59] |
Chaang-Noi | if not met him | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | i'm curious if you remember. | [13:59] |
Chaang-Noi | burtw? | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld yea i agree. i mean... 100 days to breakeven w/o power or any other costs | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | and then there's going to be a ton of these deployed | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi nah | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | burtw is not in this chan is he | [14:00] |
Chaang-Noi | well i dont know, but im pretty sure iv seen him before somewhere | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | unless he wants to out himself... | [14:01] |
Chaang-Noi | not a big deal | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | ;;nethash | [14:03] |
gribble | 72692.2434045 | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | 72th, srsly ?! | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | boy we've grown. | [14:04] |
Chaang-Noi | people are buying gpus to mine, no joke | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | yeah at this price... | [14:04] |
Chaang-Noi | and i wonder if bfl is mining with their half working shit | [14:04] |
Chaang-Noi | id almost buy shit too, and then mine ltc with it | [14:04] |
Chaang-Noi | but im pretty lazy | [14:05] |
Chaang-Noi | AM is adding as well | [14:05] |
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mircea_popescu | "if you get back all your btc, while me and others lost all our fiat, i will do everything to make the site owner life hard not to share the lost beetween customers" | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | lol. fiat sucks. get used to it. | [14:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0159 = 0.0636 BTC [-] | [14:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.0163 = 0.3423 BTC [+] | [14:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+] | [14:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1018 BTC [+] | [14:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1025 BTC [+] | [14:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+] | [14:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+] | [14:18] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003322 = 0.0066 BTC [+] | [14:24] |
KRS1 | ;;goxlag | [14:32] |
gribble | MtGox lag is 0.860826 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172508566571 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). | [14:32] |
kakobrekla | 13:04.26 ( Chaang-Noi ) people are buying gpus to mine, no joke | [14:32] |
kakobrekla | they are even buying ztex fpga | [14:32] |
kakobrekla | which is like ~1k eur for less than a GH | [14:32] |
kakobrekla | retaded | [14:33] |
kakobrekla | also i have seen icarus which costs 500e or something to go for 15bt | [14:33] |
kakobrekla | a used one ofc. | [14:33] |
KRS1 | wow..whats next? little kids wont even be able go get that new gpu they wanted to play space warriors X for Christmas? | [14:34] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much. | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | luckily the good gpus (ati) are useless for mining | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | this may perversely actually destroy nvidia | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | as we buy all their products they're losing market share in the gaming mkt. | [14:35] |
KRS1 | ATI are useless for mining? Thats all I used to use..hell 3 6970's gave me 1.2 Ghash | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | or wait no | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | i got it backwards. nvidia. | [14:36] |
KRS1 | nvidia..the other way round =D | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [14:36] |
KRS1 | man did they miss the boat on that one | [14:36] |
KRS1 | they were looking for an entirely different market like weather modeling | [14:36] |
KRS1 | sorry for correcting you- easy mistake to make | [14:39] |
KRS1 | lol@bitpotato.com | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | kakobrekla you saw on ebay some of the cassicus coins selling for 2k usd? | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | people just want into btc | [14:40] |
KRS1 | wtf is next..tampons? | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | yes | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | what do you mean sorry lol. if you hadn't said anything it'd still be there lol | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | i have some of those coins | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | but i dont have ebay acc | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | i have some as well | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah same here, fuck ebay | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | Chaang-Noi ill sell for 1k to you and you sell for 2k on bay | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | lol | [14:40] |
Chaang-Noi | i have my own but thanks:) also fuck ebay:) | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [14:40] |
kakobrekla | this bitcoin is getting all fucked up | [14:41] |
kakobrekla | too main stream | [14:41] |
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Chaang-Noi | haha | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | omg scam | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | you know, thios would be pretty cool, iof instead of claiming hack | [14:41] |
Chaang-Noi | just wait until paypal and western union start using it | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | the scammer start claiming "too lame". | [14:41] |
Chaang-Noi | AM selling 50 blades this time around | [14:43] |
KRS1 | how can i get in on them blades | [14:43] |
Chaang-Noi | auction on the forum | [14:43] |
kakobrekla | urlpls | [14:44] |
Chaang-Noi | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248 | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | ya it was like at 30 | [14:44] |
Chaang-Noi | no paypal | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | i was saying before, insanity. | [14:44] |
Chaang-Noi | a day left still | [14:44] |
kakobrekla | hmmm | [14:44] |
Chaang-Noi | last went for 75 | [14:44] |
Chaang-Noi | these should go 50 ormore | [14:44] |
kakobrekla | top ptice is 35 now | [14:44] |
kakobrekla | ::calc bc,convert eur | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck tho seriously. they are 5gh/s right ? | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | wtf | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | im half sleep | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,convert eur | [14:45] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 133.83000 U.S. dollars = 102.732786 Euros | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | also half sheep | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | shleep | [14:45] |
mircea_popescu | btw did you see the fluorescent sheeps ? | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | hm | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | i dont think so | [14:45] |
Chaang-Noi | they are 10 ghs | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.nodeju.com/8327/fluorescent-sheep-born-in-uruguay.html | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,genrate 1 | [14:46] |
gribble | Error: "bc,genrate" is not a valid command. | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,gen 1 | [14:46] |
gribble | use the 'genrate' command instead | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | ;;genrate 10000 | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | dammit | [14:46] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour. | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | a | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi ok so not quite insane as i originally thought. still pretty insane | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | thats 10 jigga hash right | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | ya | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | sheesh | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | and! diff is for sure 10mn by end of month | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | or ealry next | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,stats | [14:47] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 233564 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 291 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9972380.59898 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.12159 | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | ha | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | that bet | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | ... | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | ya lol | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | like JUST on the cusp. | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | incredible shit. | [14:47] |
kakobrekla | so hm | [14:48] |
kakobrekla | you need 100 days at current diff | [14:48] |
kakobrekla | to get the money back | [14:48] |
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kakobrekla | which is more like 300 | [14:48] |
kakobrekla | on the end | [14:48] |
kakobrekla | if the board lives that long | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu | o look at this. Chaang-Noi apparently you're invited. | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu | "Goat MP satoshi" | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla ikr? | [14:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 398 @ 0.005 = 1.99 BTC [+] | [14:49] |
kakobrekla | myea | [14:49] |
kakobrekla | i guess im out | [14:49] |
mircea_popescu | "I purposely omitted people not in this forum from the list." | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | see ? i'm on the forum. you're not. | [14:50] |
mircea_popescu | noob. | [14:50] |
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mircea_popescu | funny list tho | [14:50] |
kakobrekla | where is that from? | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1965013#msg1965013 | [14:51] |
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mircea_popescu | sorta informative, | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | shows us what the noobs think are the movers and shakers. | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | sirius etc. | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like asking the tv crowd their idea on who runs america | [14:51] |
mircea_popescu | "that rap producer guy, that boxing promoter guy, obama and that chick on twitter". | [14:52] |
kakobrekla | hm | [14:53] |
kakobrekla | im not on the list. | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | "The reason there are pledges, which cost more and more when the # of participants is increasing, is that otherwise I would benefit too much from the tickets. The ticket income increases quadratically with the number of admissions, the costs go up perhaps in the 1.5th power. " | [14:53] |
mircea_popescu | this math. bitcoin is based on it. | [14:53] |
pigeons | maff | [14:54] |
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kakobrekla | imma just a sub node sector zappa 6b | [14:56] |
kakobrekla | not relevant enough :( | [14:56] |
kakobrekla | http://vimeo.com/26149808 | [14:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+] | [15:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [+] | [15:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+] | [15:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299899 = 2.5998 BTC [+] | [15:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.3 = 32.5 BTC [+] | [15:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+] | [15:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.3 = 18.2 BTC [+] | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla The mystery man came over and he said "I'm outta sight!" | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | He said for a nominal service charge I could reach nirvana tonight | [15:10] |
KRS1 | I wouldnt mind reaching nirvana at some point..i'm sure it involves a long legged blonde at some point | [15:12] |
KRS1 | d'oh | [15:12] |
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error4733 | ;;next | [15:19] |
gribble | targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 42 seconds ago | [15:19] |
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Chaang-Noi | mp yeah i said you got invited and yeah me too, right along with satoshi, lulz | [15:23] |
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Chaang-Noi | mp that list is mostly people from the wall obeservation thread | [15:25] |
Chaang-Noi | i would not mind going to findland but i really dont think much will come of this | [15:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00066644 = 3.3322 BTC [-] | [15:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00066643 = 3.4321 BTC [-] | [15:26] |
Chaang-Noi | lol what? | [15:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00300427 = 3.6051 BTC [-] | [15:28] |
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Uglux | wow dat AM auction, and still one day left | [15:31] |
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ThickAsThieves | these call options are overpriced... | [15:37] |
ThickAsThieves | $195 is best breakeven | [15:38] |
error4733 | Mp backstop ;) | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | so now we need 50% swings to make any money... | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | bastion of satbility that is | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | stability* | [15:39] |
error4733 | how many 50% swing this month ? | [15:40] |
error4733 | 4? 5? | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | except when it was factoring those it was even worse | [15:41] |
ThickAsThieves | also, what about the 2years of history before | [15:41] |
ThickAsThieves | your point makes sense | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | but it also cripples options | [15:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 1 @ 0.79690016 BTC | [15:52] |
error4733 | Haha, | [15:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.C107T] 3 @ 0.45517597 = 1.3655 BTC [-] | [15:54] |
ThickAsThieves | there :/ | [15:54] |
ThickAsThieves | i'll dabble | [15:54] |
error4733 | i'm with you for the call | [15:54] |
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error4733 | just need one drama monday | [15:56] |
mircea_popescu | error4733 ya lol | [15:57] |
error4733 | black april is not finish yet... be ready for the final | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | "You can easily buy money with coolness. You can hardly buy coolness with money." | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | dude this thread is gomedy cold. | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla wtf, is assets +i now ? | [16:02] |
kakobrekla | ops | [16:02] |
kakobrekla | my bad | [16:02] |
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mircea_popescu | ppl were like "invite me plz" i was wtf ?! | [16:02] |
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KRS-1 | ya well I started talking shit about obama and next thing i know my power went out | [16:03] |
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Chaang-Noi | i was kicked? | [16:03] |
kakobrekla | not yet | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi well ironically i usually go to finland/estonia/whatever in summer | [16:03] |
mircea_popescu | but april kinda early. | [16:04] |
Chaang-Noi | * Cannot join #bitcoin-assets (Channel is invite only). | [16:05] |
Chaang-Noi | well its in may but still | [16:05] |
Chaang-Noi | id be tempted to go if some other btc people were going but its too soon | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | i kinda don't like these "let's do something everything" affairs tbh. | [16:06] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah, i dont see what will be done, i also dont see who is going | [16:06] |
KRS-1 | Thank you Mircea, you were the only one I could think of. Who can I msg next time or who is ops that is usually here | [16:07] |
mircea_popescu | i don't have ops lol | [16:08] |
Chaang-Noi | kako has ops | [16:09] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla if you want +i you probably need to add a whole list of +I first | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | might not even be the worst idea. | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | of course +r has the disadvantage that all the noob chicks wanting to go topless mpoe-pr keeps sending over won't be able to get it anymoar. | [16:14] |
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mircea_popescu | !t m ^oix | [16:19] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 53.96737151 / 197.9610204 / 305.88369172 (94 shares, 7.88 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | 200 eh. | [16:19] |
KRS-1 | wtf | [16:19] |
KRS-1 | damnit gribble | [16:19] |
KRS-1 | noobs are buying up those potatos | [16:20] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [+] | [16:29] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3086 = 2.6172 BTC [+] | [16:34] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3085 = 2.617 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3085 BTC [-] | [16:46] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00275 = 0.022 BTC [-] | [16:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3086 = 5.2344 BTC [+] | [16:47] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3086 = 3.9258 BTC [+] | [16:52] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0163 BTC [+] | [16:52] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005 BTC [+] | [16:53] |
kakobrekla | or +m and have a voicelist | [16:57] |
kakobrekla | but whatever it will be, it will be after the boobs are found. | [16:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 316 @ 0.005 = 1.58 BTC [+] | [16:58] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. trilema is +m and voicelisted. | [17:01] |
KRS-1 | anyone know this cat Betcoin was 6d825f55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.130.95.85 * 109.130.95.85 | [17:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.28 = 11.52 BTC [-] | [17:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00065421 = 9.8132 BTC [-] | [17:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0006524 = 2.2508 BTC [-] | [17:13] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308 BTC [+] | [17:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3088 BTC [+] | [17:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.319 BTC [+] | [17:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+] | [17:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00066367 = 18.0518 BTC [+] | [17:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.00067064 = 2.3546 BTC [+] | [17:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [+] | [17:39] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.015 = 0.09 BTC [-] | [17:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-] | [17:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9851 @ 0.00067648 = 6.664 BTC [+] | [17:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 55 @ 0.001887 = 0.1038 BTC [+] | [17:53] |
Chaang-Noi | nice to see AM at 1.28 bids:) | [18:03] |
Chaang-Noi | should be really nice this time next week | [18:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3199 BTC [+] | [18:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-] | [18:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-] | [18:16] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1998 = 0.3996 BTC [-] | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.os-fashion.com/vcs-think-my-boobs-need-an-algorithm/ chick knows her shit. | [18:41] |
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gribble | There are currently 161577.74 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 13993939.8375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0085 seconds | [19:09] |
gribble | There are currently 75062.168 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 12494310.4521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0760 seconds | [19:09] |
thestringpuller | tiberiusiv: can we be friends? | [19:11] |
thestringpuller | Or do you only take payment in bitcoin for your friend services? | [19:11] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [19:12] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00010, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03990, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 53937.13488029, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.76267 | [19:12] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu wouldn't you say this quote also applies to Paul Graham? >> " the crappy start-ups that got funding at high valuations are struggling and are unable to get Series B funding, dropping like flies, creating a tech bubble" | [19:14] |
mircea_popescu | writing brb. | [19:15] |
thestringpuller | Also mircea_popescu apparently she's the CEO of the company that produces this: http://www.blueseventy.com/products/2012-helix-full-suit | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mind-your-step/ | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | aha ? not bad | [19:16] |
thestringpuller | Alright mircea_popescu you win, lemme send you more coin for your paywall | [19:18] |
thestringpuller | .01 gets me how many credits? | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [19:19] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.60000, Best ask: 136.04000, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 136.04000, 24 hour volume: 54078.06233830, 24 hour low: 122.71000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 129.78047 | [19:19] |
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mircea_popescu | like 1.3k | [19:19] |
thestringpuller | lets do un/pw this time | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | un/pw ? | [19:19] |
thestringpuller | username password | [19:19] |
thestringpuller | instead of based on ip | [19:19] |
thestringpuller | don't subscribe to the NYT | [19:20] |
thestringpuller | when you can use it as TP instead :P | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | a ywes. kk. | [19:20] |
thestringpuller | what address should I send to? | [19:20] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2911 BTC [+] | [19:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-] | [19:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.291 BTC [-] | [19:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-] | [19:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [+] | [19:26] |
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mircea_popescu | so apparently mtgox is writing a new trade engine | [19:37] |
mircea_popescu | in brainfuck. | [19:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4399 = 4.399 BTC [+] | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. | [19:38] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+] | [19:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+] | [19:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4399 = 0.8798 BTC [+] | [19:41] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: I once wrote a FORTH to Brainfuck compiler. Betcha they dug it out from the sands of time and are using it. | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | was it under 256 bytes ? | [19:41] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: close to that | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | should fit in ram over 9000 times then | [19:42] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: try it yourself, it isn't hard | [19:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+] | [19:44] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu I feel as though you allude the biggest problem bitcoin faces is arrogance amongst n00bs... | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [19:49] |
thestringpuller | "I bought in at 10 dollars, now I'm rich" bullshit etc. | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | well not unless you expand noobs to mean everyone. | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | i guess arrogance is the universal problem. | [19:49] |
thestringpuller | I would say Keiser is still a n00b. | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | "i'm too cool to suck cock" "i don't need to learn math" "why should i stop for red lights" etc. | [19:49] |
thestringpuller | He just happens to have money in the bank. | [19:50] |
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thestringpuller | but people who say, "I don't need to learn math" end up coming up short when you give them money to do business. | [19:50] |
thestringpuller | Like EVERYTIME | [19:50] |
thestringpuller | "Oh I thought you wanted 1.40 per sale not 2 dollars" | [19:50] |
thestringpuller | Okay maybe arrogance isn't the proper word. | [19:51] |
thestringpuller | How about "delusional" | [19:51] |
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asciilifeform | problem is, "why should I stop for red light" is mere Darwin-food when the noob has a motorcycle. In the case of BTC, he has a trailer loaded with bricks. | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | well yes. the divergence between reality and representation and the complacency with the situation. source of all trouble. | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform then you question the wisdom of only allowing people on motorcycles until they show they drive well :D | [19:53] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: I'm for the "mandatory pedestrian ram" plus "automatic liability of idiots" - method of traffic regulation. | [19:54] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2701 BTC [-] | [19:54] |
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asciilifeform | a la https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine_(video_game) | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | hey. | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | you ever played death track ? | [19:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4588 = 2.294 BTC [+] | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | lol death track | [19:56] |
asciilifeform | yes | [19:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+] | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. back in like 1990 | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | i didn't know they had video games in romania | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | we had gta, except only the cool kids with computers played it | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | HAHAHAHAHA | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | omg | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | quote stolen | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:56] |
thestringpuller | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136706164156.jpg < who is the guy on the top picture? | [19:57] |
thestringpuller | btw | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller some forum clown | [19:57] |
asciilifeform | is that the "Class X BTC Supernode" fellow? | [19:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.46 = 2.3 BTC [+] | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [20:00] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu seems the billpay idea actually is working... | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | which one is that ? | [20:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.312 BTC [-] | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31200001 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31499999 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.315 = 4.095 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.31999995 = 2.24 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31999998 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: http://billpayforcoins.com/ | [20:03] |
thestringpuller | i'm sure that's crossed your browser at some point | [20:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0163 = 0.163 BTC [+] | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | Update - 4/25/2013 | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | Thank you all for checking us out. We are currently working on restructuring our payment backend to be in full compliance with all government regulations. We will be back up as soon as all our ducks are in a row. | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | i guess so much for it working. | [20:04] |
thestringpuller | OH WOW | [20:04] |
thestringpuller | hahahaha | [20:04] |
troc | v.interesting, would the coins you spend that way be liable for any taxation as a benefit in kind ? | [20:04] |
thestringpuller | troc: wouldn't that depend on where you pay from? | [20:04] |
thestringpuller | pay via a server in africa I wouldn't think so... | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | WHO THE FUCK IS THIS CLOWN | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | Riley Alexander | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | Co - Founder, Idea Engine, Master Hand Shaker | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | Idea Engine? | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | MASTER HAND SHAKER? | [20:05] |
thestringpuller | "Two-Bit Entrepreneur" | [20:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.468 = 2.808 BTC [+] | [20:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+] | [20:06] |
* | thestringpuller sighs | [20:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+] | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | well i dunno wtf that's all about. here you can pay other people's bills | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | i should know. | [20:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4701 = 1.4103 BTC [+] | [20:07] |
thestringpuller | come again mircea_popescu ? | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | i don't see what regulations they would be breaking. | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | so i pay X's bill. sooo ? | [20:08] |
thestringpuller | ah | [20:08] |
thestringpuller | I'm just sick of bitcoin entrepreneurs | [20:08] |
thestringpuller | it's becoming worse than YCombinator shit | [20:08] |
thestringpuller | "Hey man I have this AWESOME idea. Girls need bra's right? LETS MAKE A WEBSITE TO GET CUSTOM BRAS" | [20:09] |
thestringpuller | As if Victoria Secret doesn't have that market seized already... | [20:09] |
troc | billpay : say its the mortgage, it could be a neat way to avoid capital gains on BTC no ? | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller but no panties. | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | actually there was this french brand made a fortune by selling bra and panty sets | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | except they had one bra and FIVE matching panties in the pack. | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | wish i could recall da fuck it was called. | [20:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3297 BTC [+] | [20:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3298 BTC [+] | [20:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2801 BTC [-] | [20:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+] | [20:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32989 BTC [+] | [20:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.32999 = 13.2999 BTC [+] | [20:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.331 = 9.317 BTC [+] | [20:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333334 BTC [+] | [20:22] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.337 BTC [+] | [20:27] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.32 = 8.64 BTC [+] | [20:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00302262 = 3.0226 BTC [+] | [20:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3020 @ 0.00302263 = 9.1283 BTC [+] | [20:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.346 BTC [+] | [20:32] |
kakobrekla | moar? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.0 | [20:34] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-] | [20:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3202 BTC [-] | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | Our model Our platform is designed to allow the trading of bitcoin for bitcoin. | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | logical. | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | Who's behind it? Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms. | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | sigh. | [20:43] |
kakobrekla | hm | [20:44] |
kakobrekla | well, dunno why is it so cryptic about it | [20:45] |
kakobrekla | >BTC.sx is funded privately. We operate with a tier 1 total capital ratio level of 110% minimum. | [20:45] |
kakobrekla | >Our team consists of seasoned traders with experience in some of the worlds most successful banks, investment banks and accounting firms. | [20:46] |
kakobrekla | who again? | [20:46] |
mircea_popescu | his mom. | [20:48] |
mircea_popescu | "From what I've googled, I understand that scalping helps lower spreads but ultimately, aren't you just betting upon a upward or downward price movement?" | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | him in 2012. | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile experience happened. at the world's most successful banks | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | apostrophe's on me. | [20:49] |
* | arij is selling btc for bofa transfer/deposit | [20:51] |
arij | wrong channel | [20:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.32 = 2.64 BTC [-] | [20:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.339 BTC [+] | [21:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.34698 = 2.694 BTC [+] | [21:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 85 @ 0.35903146 = 30.5177 BTC [+] | [21:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3171 BTC [-] | [21:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-] | [21:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00065476 = 3.6667 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.0006524 = 2.1203 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;nethash | [21:31] |
gribble | 73988.0257577 | [21:31] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;tslb | [21:31] |
gribble | Time since last block: 3 minutes and 7 seconds | [21:31] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;estimate | [21:32] |
gribble | Next difficulty estimate | 9973647.0479 based on data since last change | 10335850.0809 based on data for last three days | [21:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-] | [21:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 510 @ 0.003 = 1.53 BTC [-] | [21:36] |
kakobrekla | sooo, whats new | [21:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 165 @ 0.01 = 1.65 BTC [+] | [21:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+] | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | there's a new bitcoin exchange | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | there's a new asic producer | [21:40] |
mircea_popescu | there's a new "investment opportunity" | [21:40] |
kakobrekla | there's a new "gtfo by mpoe-pr post" | [21:41] |
mircea_popescu | that for sure. | [21:41] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31 BTC [+] | [21:42] |
kakobrekla | anyone got cas coins for sale, i need a few moar | [21:44] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg1967971#msg1967971 | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | ask and thou shalt recieve | [21:45] |
kakobrekla | hm | [21:45] |
kakobrekla | is the definition of who shouldnt be doing what getting broader? | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | how do you mean ? | [21:46] |
kakobrekla | moar rant | [21:49] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189895.msg1968364#msg1968364 | [21:49] |
kakobrekla | bah | [21:50] |
kakobrekla | typo | [21:50] |
kakobrekla | fixd | [21:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4423 @ 0.00066115 = 2.9243 BTC [+] | [21:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4965 @ 0.00068029 = 3.3776 BTC [+] | [21:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00069403 = 3.6784 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00069498 = 0.834 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00069884 = 5.5907 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00071 = 2.4495 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
benkay | for all the bile and hate about children building technology from MPOEPR we have no idea who makes up mircea's team | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | not following the chan are you :p | [21:59] |
kakobrekla | i think i got contacted by a scammer and he is trying to sell some cas coins (and i think he doest even know what that is) | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+] | [21:59] |
kakobrekla | lets have some fun | [21:59] |
ThickAsThieves | [21:59] | |
ThickAsThieves | kidding! | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+] | [22:00] |
benkay | chan's not terribly persistent or searchable | [22:00] |
kakobrekla | assbot has been keeping logs for a few days now | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | benkay k 1 sec | [22:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3148 @ 0.00071 = 2.2351 BTC [+] | [22:01] |
* | BTCOxygen is now known as Oxygen | [22:01] |
kakobrekla | ill make it public soonish | [22:01] |
kakobrekla | and searchable i guess | [22:01] |
* | Oxygen is now known as Guest44299 | [22:01] |
ThickAsThieves | I have logs for most of the past month or two | [22:01] |
* | Guest44299 is now known as BTCOxygen | [22:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49514 @ 0.00071 = 35.1549 BTC [+] | [22:02] |
kakobrekla | i have logs from 1 year ago but they are all fucked up | [22:02] |
benkay | i'm trying to highlight the double standard of "no pro-grade team called out on site, where team is expected to be called out" vs the MPEx approach which is "MPEx is run by someone well versed in power dynamics and getting people to do things. trust him to select the right people to do things." | [22:02] |
benkay | chat logs are not public declaration of team makeup. | [22:02] |
benkay | they're chat logs. | [22:02] |
kakobrekla | thats another issue | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | benkay http://pastebin.com/VJ2W6xg4 | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | towards the end | [22:03] |
benkay | nope | [22:04] |
benkay | but who are those humans? | [22:04] |
benkay | "cfo" | [22:05] |
benkay | "lead counsel" | [22:05] |
benkay | "exercise to reader" | [22:05] |
benkay | rly? | [22:05] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+] | [22:05] |
benkay | no names | [22:05] |
benkay | no employment histories | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | heh. mkay. | [22:05] |
benkay | no demonstrations of past success. | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | martha is already named there. she's named on the domain registratiosn too. | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2002JulSep/0110.html | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | for instance. | [22:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.775 BTC [-] | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | the famous court proceedings where i beat back the romanian govt had been amply linked but i guess you never saw that. | [22:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+] | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | guy's name is florin cristescu, it's all over that. | [22:06] |
benkay | have not, not. | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | in other words : none of this is a secret, it's known by people who care to know as it were. | [22:06] |
benkay | but if I say, 'dear mircea_popescu, where would I go to learn about the amazing team you've assembled to run your business?' your answer is 'do some research, child' | [22:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002753 BTC [-] | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | you do see why dominant position would ensure one such luxury | [22:08] |
benkay | which induces a bit of culture shock, in that i generally expect people to be proud of the team they work with, and eager to show that they're above board and real grownups etc. | [22:08] |
benkay | oh of course | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | whereas being an upstart would not ? | [22:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-] | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | after all, i'm not proving myself to random unknown noob on the forum | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | he is proving himself to me. | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | trust is this directional affair. | [22:09] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: I just sold some panties for 1 bitcoin | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | if he doesn't trust me that's pretty much of no import. if i don't trust him that's a serious impairment on his future. | [22:09] |
thestringpuller | we should drop this exchange nonsense and get into the lingerie business yo | [22:10] |
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kakobrekla | hm panties4btc | [22:11] |
benkay | I guess I'm just bemused by the difference in approach towards image in your area. | [22:11] |
benkay | "but i lols so powerful image is nothing" | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | i don't follow benkay ? | [22:12] |
benkay | big American companies are obsessed with image. | [22:12] |
benkay | big American investors are obsessed with image. | [22:13] |
benkay | transparency, etc. | [22:13] |
FabianB | image != transparency | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | yeah i thin kthere's some conflation at work here. | [22:13] |
benkay | image = f(transparency and other shit) | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | not really, no. but anyway. it isn't/never was a matter of "do some research child". in the sense that i answered if asked, but in general stuff is known. | [22:14] |
benkay | so returning to culture shock, I'm accustomed to things being indexed instead of known | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | hey, it's btc you know ? | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | i'm giving a slightly different approach a go. | [22:16] |
benkay | and you're endeavoring to write new rules, I get it. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | well at least make some motherfucking sense | [22:16] |
ThickAsThieves | benkay, i suspect mp's people would prefer their privacy over "image" | [22:16] |
ThickAsThieves | i know i would | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves some care more than others. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | it's an issue here, i mean : for years the ONLY way you could get anyone with any sort of license to even consider bitcoin | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | is if you swore on dead saints you will never release their name | [22:17] |
benkay | so this veers into philosophy and prognostication, but how much longer can anyone expect any information to remain unindexed? | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | this because being a financial professional is highly regulated, they'd have to get an ok from their compliance officer, | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | which would never happen etc. | [22:17] |
benkay | consider bitcoin what? | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | benkay indefinitely in principle. unless something happens to show me the model is fundamentally flawed, i think it will carry on forever. | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | benkay consider bitcoin. in their head. | [22:18] |
benkay | but if you hire them and their compliance officer?did you contract with existing financial firms to do accounting and backoffice etc? | [22:18] |
benkay | also I hate asking questions that have been answered already. aversion to repetition and all that. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | no listen. the year is 2011. i get excited about this new btc thing. i know what it needs to have a chance. i know i need help. i know whose help i need. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | i talk to these people. well... they can't get involved. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | so what now / | [22:19] |
benkay | why can't they get involved? risking their licensure? | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | do you know how this profession is organised ? | [22:20] |
benkay | in the us? to an extent. in romania? no clue. | [22:20] |
benkay | and which profession? | [22:20] |
ThickAsThieves | I'm not sure why eother of you think this conversation will go anywhere | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves naivite. | [22:21] |
benkay | mp knows i'm actually trying to learn stuff | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | benkay basically, it's a team of people with various types of licenses, a boss, a compliance officer and some more sdupport roles. | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | the rule - simplified - is that nobody can get involved into ANYTHING related to their day job even vaguely | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | w/o clearing it with the compliance officer. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | this includes things like giving interviews even. | [22:22] |
benkay | got it. so everyone's doing this as a side job? | [22:22] |
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mircea_popescu | people (actual people in this chan) have been sacked for nonsense like, telling a reporter they make a lot of money and are living the life. | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | now. the compliance officer is NEVER going to ok something like "bitcoin". because he only ok's on positive factual knowledge it's ok. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | so if it's dubious, then it's not gettiong ok. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | so, to round this up : for all the bullshit "we're getting ws involved" coming out of purely puff style start-ups like coin-whatever, | [22:24] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3001 BTC [-] | [22:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [-] | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | ws people were involved since 2011/early 2012, in the only way they could be. | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | which is, secretly. | [22:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-] | [22:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-] | [22:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269001 BTC [-] | [22:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1.269 = 19.035 BTC [-] | [22:25] |
benkay | that makes a startling amount of sense. | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | that's as to why you will likely never know who's on my short list of people i talk to / scream at / with on macroeconomic topics, finance etc. | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | now, the coders are often uninterested in talking to the public. | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | other than that, some people don't care, which is why you get the names/mugs of some people. | [22:26] |
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benkay | and you anticipate maintaining the privacy wall indefinitely? | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | 0/1/infinity is the rule | [22:28] |
benkay | hah | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | since i'm doing it it's not 0. unless some sort of obvious 1 hits me over the head | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | it's infinity. | [22:28] |
ThickAsThieves | so at this get together, did some people not tell others who they were? | [22:29] |
ThickAsThieves | or do all involved know eachother's identity | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | some people met in person lol. some haven't. each his cup of tea | [22:30] |
benkay | 0 information leakage is a secret kept by 1 person. some information leakage happens when more than 1 person knows stuff. eventually, all information will leak. infinity? | [22:30] |
ThickAsThieves | its obv much cooler if some attendees used fake names | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | ya, eventually all information will leak which is why you know who killed kennedy or w/e | [22:31] |
benkay | hm. | [22:31] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [22:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2681 BTC [-] | [22:31] |
benkay | that's more of a signal to noise claim, sir. | [22:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.268 = 2.536 BTC [-] | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | just making the point that information will leak is this proposition of statistics | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | it may be true, but it may not help you. | [22:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2671 BTC [-] | [22:32] |
benkay | oh granted | [22:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.267 = 8.869 BTC [-] | [22:32] |
benkay | but there's lots of noise in the market and some traders manage to beat the mean year after year | [22:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-] | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | well other than that i was answering the q of how long im doing something | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | not how long it works | [22:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-] | [22:32] |
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ezdiy | mircea_popescu: what about information which leaks once its harmless? | [22:33] |
ezdiy | to lump it all together does not seem right | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [22:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [-] | [22:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-] | [22:33] |
ThickAsThieves | it's amazing how this conversation gets more and more interesting | [22:33] |
ezdiy | (but the statistics holds indeed) | [22:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-] | [22:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] | [22:33] |
kakobrekla | ThickAsThieves you just fucked it up | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:34] |
ThickAsThieves | ;) | [22:34] |
ThickAsThieves | any time | [22:34] |
ThickAsThieves | but really, it started as benkay asking what give mpoe-pr/mpex/mp the right to question others experience, and turned into, i dunno | [22:35] |
benkay | no not question | [22:35] |
benkay | everyone has the right to question | [22:35] |
benkay | expressed shock at attitude of "who are you" when we know, like, MP | [22:35] |
ThickAsThieves | sometimes my words mean more than what the dictionarys defines them as | [22:35] |
kakobrekla | i think that means using it wrong | [22:36] |
ThickAsThieves | i prefer "creatively" | [22:36] |
benkay | success in comms is expressing things in a way that everyone understands | [22:37] |
benkay | failure in comms is ambiguity | [22:37] |
ThickAsThieves | did realize what i said was so confusing... | [22:37] |
ThickAsThieves | didnt* | [22:37] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: do you have steam? | [22:37] |
mircea_popescu | nope | [22:38] |
thestringpuller | I'ma buy you the GTA complete pack | [22:38] |
Scrat | boring conversation | [22:38] |
Scrat | http://i.imgur.com/5nvlW.gif | [22:38] |
Scrat | (sfw) | [22:39] |
Scrat | I used to work close to the beach, would be sfw then | [22:40] |
Scrat | sadly no | [22:43] |
jurov | folks, if there is anyone still interested in MPOE bonds passthrough or has workable ideas, | [22:52] |
jurov | discuss here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131270.msg1968876#msg1968876 | [22:52] |
jurov | We have one month hiatus to come up with something. | [22:52] |
dub | ;;nethash | [22:53] |
gribble | 73971.4334572 | [22:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 378.21006095 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 75 satoshi per share | [22:56] |
benkay | wowee | [22:57] |
jurov | ooooook | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | that's it, one full year of dividends ftw. | [22:58] |
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jurov | ;;calc 37821006095/500000000 | [23:01] |
gribble | 75.64201219 | [23:01] |
jurov | why my fkn code insists on 39 satoshi? | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | jurov maybe an idea is to get a limited hedging involved. | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | as in, buy some options on the same package as the bond. maybe everyone buying shares gets to vote which way to go, calls or puts | [23:03] |
mircea_popescu | course all this is becoming rather complicated. | [23:04] |
jurov | and then vote when they should be sold/exercised.. yeah | [23:05] |
jurov | (that was ironic yeah) | [23:05] |
mircea_popescu | yeah i know... | [23:05] |
ThickAsThieves | I wanted to do an options fund, but current pricing makes it seem like it'd most likely be a loser as well | [23:06] |
jurov | i had some preliminary idea with smickles to have alternative bot | [23:06] |
jurov | that could also hedge per option sold | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves well listen you can't BOTH be losers. | [23:06] |
jurov | but he's not around anymore | [23:06] |
mircea_popescu | i am suspecting the bot is exactly right because everyone agrees price is making them lose money | [23:06] |
ThickAsThieves | bot is def playing it smarter | [23:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2551 BTC [+] | [23:07] |
ThickAsThieves | but opportunity for profit for both bond holders and option buyers has been very minimized | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | no but let's run a model here. so, 1k btc bond. | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | if past data is any indication, say a 200% upswing or 60% downswing causes losses of about 25% | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | so then you need calls that will make 250 btc if price goes up 3x | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | and puts that make 250 btc if price goes down 60% | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [23:09] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.39998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 132.40000, 24 hour volume: 29432.97051216, 24 hour low: 126.01101, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 132.09045 | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | 132*3 | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 132*3 | [23:09] |
gribble | 396 | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | O.USD.C302T for instance will make about .25 each if price goes there. so you need 100 these | [23:09] |
ThickAsThieves | *could* happen... | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | i mean 1000 these | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | so they cost like 70 btc. | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | the call side cost to hedge the bond is then 7% | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | (if these numbers are worth a shit at all) | [23:10] |
ThickAsThieves | problem is, the price is more likely to move maybe 50% upward, or 25% downward this month (very roughly speaking) | [23:11] |
Scrat | lol ThickAsThieves | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves so then sell short puts/calls | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | that'll make you money in that scenario | [23:12] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm not interested in creating options | [23:13] |
ThickAsThieves | too much risk ;) | [23:13] |
ThickAsThieves | i want easy money obv | [23:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26502 BTC [+] | [23:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-] | [23:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-] | [23:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-] | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | ya well, sometimes those curves meet | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | fear, greed, cleverness | [23:18] |
KRS-1 | thickasthieves what a good buy point ya think | [23:20] |
KRS-1 | i cashed out at $147 for the most part | [23:20] |
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ThickAsThieves | isnt that kinda q what bitc-anal channel is for? | [23:21] |
ThickAsThieves | but to answer your question, i have bids lined up incrementally from 126ish downward | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | “Birchbox requested 300,000 units of a product for free; in return, they said that could offer a conservative purchase order of 400 units for that product if it was received well by their sampling audience.” Birchbox also requested a special sample size, which Ms. Chan would need to create, that would yield at least 3 uses of the product. After Ms. Chan negotiated with them, they lowered the amount of requested fre | [23:24] |
mircea_popescu | e product to 75,000 and then to 50,000 units (for a more targeted customer base). Birchbox only wanted to pay for a purchase order of 400 units after receiving 50,000 units for free. | [23:24] |
mircea_popescu | lmao. basically people think cheek equals business nao | [23:25] |
KRS-1 | Mircea is the owner and master of #bitcoin-anal, if he can find it in his good will, I would not mind being Curator of all culture anal that is also bitcoin. | [23:25] |
KRS-1 | Ya thanks for your insight, thats where I was but I pulled down to $110-$105 and $100 when I saw the rising wedge pattern. | [23:26] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] | [23:26] |
mircea_popescu | wait what ? | [23:27] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [23:27] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla you need a better forum avatar. | [23:30] |
Scrat | me too | [23:30] |
Scrat | too furry for my taste | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134679696766.jpg | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | crop that for instance. | [23:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [+] | [23:31] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 59 @ 0.0163 = 0.9617 BTC [+] | [23:38] |
KRS-1 | I'd hit that | [23:39] |
KRS-1 | not my taste but damn | [23:40] |
benkay | "big girls need love too" | [23:42] |
jurov | lol i meant to have serious word with mpex staff, but was under impression they are not there | [23:45] |
jurov | now i'm reading i sat practically next to the cto, martha | [23:46] |
jurov | plus got blindsided by teh lawyer "we dun do english, it's unlike romanian" | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | jurov lol. he's not very english friendly | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, girl next to the lawyer is the cfo | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | money girl. | [23:48] |
jurov | "and in the top pic right under me woman behind chair is martha mcculler, my cto" << so you accidentally a letter | [23:48] |
jurov | oh there are wo women | [23:49] |
ThickAsThieves | but who took the photos | [23:49] |
ThickAsThieves | a slave? | [23:49] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves: they have waitresses in romania, ya know | [23:49] |
ThickAsThieves | pshaw | [23:50] |
jurov | okay, nevermind | [23:51] |
jurov | the lawyer was actually trying to do something in english. but then i mentioned german,and *then* he got derpy | [23:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1999 = 0.9995 BTC [+] | [23:54] |
jurov | so i should prolly learn french, italian, romanian, or gypsy or whatever to be able to talk to mpex lawyer... | [23:54] |
ThickAsThieves | heh, there's a my little pony called Derpy https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIF1scwXYZkmC1WaLxSZEq31VPMnkMGxnAjYuBhmtTBxcSt_VJ | [23:54] |
jurov | mircea, tell him "te šukar čhavo" from me | [23:56] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-] | [23:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30839 BTC [+] | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | what do you need romanian lawyer for anyway ? | [23:58] |
jurov | just in case | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | haha | [23:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0165 = 0.0825 BTC [+] | [23:59] |
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