Forum logs for 27 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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benkay butts [00:24]
benkay $bait [00:25]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nice lol. "it is time, once and for all" too. [00:31]
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kakobrekla hey at least some words came out of this one [00:36]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i like how the original title included "scary" but then editors took it out [00:36]
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mircea_popescu "“I have been in this business for over 43 years, yet I do not ever recall getting as slammed with the same email as many times as I have about" [00:38]
mircea_popescu yeah dude totally, recall the email slamming of 1959 ? [00:39]
mircea_popescu that was some numerous email slamming back then. [00:39]
mircea_popescu "Here’s a look at the chart comparing point moves and percentage moves. On a percentage basis, this spooky comparison doesn’t look quite so frightful." [00:40]
mircea_popescu ajhajajaa ok good stuff. [00:40]
mircea_popescu " Daniel Wiener, chief executive at Adviser Investments in Newton, Mass., blamed the Internet" [00:40]
mircea_popescu too good stuff. [00:40]
mircea_popescu "From Mr. Brown: [00:41]
mircea_popescu “The reason why this bothers me is twofold – first, it frightens investors into making poor decisions – big decisions that will have a major impact on their mental health and financial condition well into the future. Second, the more we see this kind of pornography, the more likely it is to have an impact on crowd psychology and become a self-fulfilling prophecy. " [00:41]
mircea_popescu clearly. i blame asciilifeform. he wrecked the us economy. [00:41]
mircea_popescu pls to gasenwagen for him asap. [00:41]
mircea_popescu "It’s like putting a disturbed, isolated teenager in front of violent first-person shooter video games all day. If we know that most Americans are scared to invest in their own future, what’s the reason to fuel that fear even further? Sadism? Or just plain exploitative greed?”" [00:42]
mircea_popescu AAaaaahjahaha [00:42]
mircea_popescu dude, exploitative greed. teenager. videogames. it's got it all. [00:42]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that was the one most lulzy piece of lulz i have seen in my entire life. ty vm. [00:42]
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benkay she's alive [00:46]
mircea_popescu pankkake: author of the article kills himself, 6 bullets in the head << 6 mysterious bullets to the head that'll make you believe there's a god ? [00:47]
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benkay [00:47]
princessnell missed me? [00:47]
benkay eh [00:47]
mircea_popescu we were starting to think you got like a regular job orsomething [00:47]
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mircea_popescu "Frankly, it’s time to put the “scary parallels” between now and 1929 to rest. This isn’t 1929. Not even close. Anyone who tells you differently is talking nonsense." [00:48]
mircea_popescu how does it help me ? maybe it's fucking worse. [00:48]
mircea_popescu "hey us economy, remember that time in 1929 when you had lupus ? [00:49]
mircea_popescu well this time ain't that time. ain't even close. now you got bladder cancer." [00:49]
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benkay princessnell and hanbot at once? [00:51]
benkay cuntspiraci! [00:51]
mircea_popescu hanbot you know that's a point [00:53]
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mircea_popescu they're starting to miss numbers in the paint-by-the-numbers set. [00:53]
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penguirker New blog post: [00:56]
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mircea_popescu !up Adohgg [00:57]
-assbot- You voiced Adohgg for 30 minutes. [00:57]
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benkay there's a pun in there [00:57]
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moiety i finally have curtains with poles and everything :D homelyness ftw [01:06]
moiety hi hanbot! [01:06]
moiety how are you liking argentina hanbot? settled in? [01:07]
mircea_popescu wait, poles ? [01:08]
moiety yeah lol curtain poles... there were just blinds up before when i moved in [01:08]
moiety i could stick a red light in the window see what happens i guess XD [01:09]
mircea_popescu << is that a pole ? [01:09]
moiety he may well be! but mine don't look like that [01:10]
moiety mine are more boring [01:10]
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mircea_popescu he does have the cutest butt doesn't he. [01:11]
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moiety ihave these ones i wonder if i could do a swap? [01:12]
moiety i didn't even notice the floss... not gonna lie [01:12]
mircea_popescu yours look kinda small. [01:12]
mircea_popescu hanbot he's shaving [01:13]
mircea_popescu old style. [01:13]
moiety someone clever hid all his bath towels, good work. [01:14]
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chetty [01:22]
assbot Anti-Amnesty Group Asks Americans To Mail ‘Gently Used Underwear’ To Obama, Boehner « CBS DC [01:22]
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mircea_popescu how's that supposed to work [01:23]
thestringpuller ;;calc sin(3.14) [01:24]
gribble 0.00159265291649 [01:24]
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thestringpuller ;;calc sin(90) [01:24]
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[]bot Bet created: "Julian Assange to leave Ecuadorian Embassy" [01:25]
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mircea_popescu [01:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 92 @ 0.0166 = 1.5272 BTC [+] [01:26]
thestringpuller i hate clicking on images in this channel during work [01:26]
cazalla does anyone know a Shane Stevenson, Matthew K (don't know last name) behind the recent exchange? [01:27]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller but u dun have to. [01:27]
mircea_popescu cazalla nop [01:27]
pankkake I was going to say "this pic looks like gummo". but it's gummo :( [01:28]
mircea_popescu Harmony Korine [01:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.WOL] 500000 @ 0.00004005 = 20.025 BTC {7} [01:28]
mircea_popescu but wd on your muy well informed cinematometer. [01:29]
thestringpuller didn't he make that movie kids? [01:29]
thestringpuller with the rapist kids with aids? [01:29]
bitstein He wrote it. [01:29]
thestringpuller ^- there we go [01:29]
bitstein That movie was horrifying. [01:29]
thestringpuller yea. I have no idea why the fuck I watched it. [01:29]
bitstein I really liked Spring Breakers. [01:29]
pankkake I watched it because of the music [01:29]
mircea_popescu sort of like, a la carte trainspotting. [01:29]
mircea_popescu but to move on, [01:31]
assbot Pastiches ... consommer sans modration - Temps [01:31]
pankkake [01:31]
assbot Bethlehem - Schuld Uns'res Knoch'rigen Faltpferd - "Gummo" ('97) Soundtrack - YouTube [01:31]
pankkake I've read "La vie sexuelle de Tintin", that was quite a WTF [01:32]
mircea_popescu time once and for all to put la vie sexuelle de tintin once and for all to rest. [01:32]
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[]bot Bet created: "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" [01:35]
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punkman mankinis [01:37]
FabianB $vwap s.wol [01:37]
empyex FabianB: S.WOL 1 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 7 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 30 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 [01:37]
mircea_popescu and there we go! [01:38]
kakobrekla all gone eh ? [01:40]
mircea_popescu ya one fell swoop, 33%ish over par [01:41]
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kakobrekla noice! [01:42]
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mthreat bitstein: Have you been to this? [01:43]
assbot Satoshi Square - Bitcoin Social Club and Exchange [01:43]
bitstein Not yet. I think it opens on July 4th for that party. I'll probably go. [01:44]
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FabianB $unconfirmed [01:45]
empyex FabianB: 1763 [01:45]
FabianB $vwap s.bbet [01:48]
empyex FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00052229 high: 0.0005234 low: 0.0005 volume: 2100 btc: 1.0968 30 day: average: 0.00049389 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 10248 btc: 5.061385 [01:48]
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mircea_popescu FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ? [01:50]
mircea_popescu justusranvier "We’ll see why nobody uses arbitrarily-complex verbal contracts in practise by looking at what happens when something goes wrong." << this is nonsense. marriage is always and in all places the most complex contract, and almost always verbal. [01:52]
mircea_popescu when something goes wrong... people fuck. [01:52]
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mircea_popescu one of the best things about a lot of floor space and stuff like parquet is that you can go for long chair rides [01:59]
asciilifeform lol! mr spam was here, and where was i. [01:59]
asciilifeform missed it all. [01:59]
asciilifeform and he's in wot? great! [02:04]
asciilifeform because now we can: [02:04]
asciilifeform ;;rate ninjashogun -1 [02:04]
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asciilifeform ;;rate ninjashogun -1 nice try, usg - [02:06]
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mircea_popescu in the news : whatsapp revenue climbs to record 3.8 bn for quarter 2 (about $8500 per user), making the ~250mn profit trickling down to facebook slightly better than what it'd have got if it simply bought gilts for 20bn. [02:11]
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justusranvier mircea_popescu: I consider marriage contracts to be relatively simple, especially the verbal ones before the state started getting involved. [02:13]
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mircea_popescu how do you score simpleness then ? [02:14]
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mircea_popescu and they are still verbal today. [02:14]
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justusranvier If a contract is fully specified in some tangible form, then the amount of entropy in the explaination is inversely proportional to the simpleness. [02:16]
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mircea_popescu so by this measure marriage contracts are the most complex contracts that can exist. [02:17]
asciilifeform justusranvier: let's try degenerate case. 'mr x owes mr y the following amount, in satoshis...' [followed by a 100MB turd from rng] [02:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not even going there, we supplement "meaningful" to serve his position. [02:17]
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* asciilifeform wonders if anyone's ever crapped out a contract containing 'halting problem' [02:18]
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mircea_popescu the eastern sages, yes [02:18]
Mats_cd03 asciilifeform: hahahaha lol. [02:18]
justusranvier Marriage: party A provides resources. Party B provides certainty of genetic lineage. [02:19]
justusranvier If either side fails to perform the contract no longer exists. [02:20]
justusranvier Before the State took over and made things rediculous [02:20]
mircea_popescu this is a silly view of marriage. [02:20]
mircea_popescu yesterday i had a girl over, and the local girl and the new girl managed the use of the kitchen together. [02:21]
mircea_popescu also they shared the bidet. [02:21]
mircea_popescu this was in the contract. [02:21]
mircea_popescu now you go ahead and write that down. [02:21]
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mircea_popescu According to a TechCrunch article, Zuckerberg's vision for was as follows: "The idea, he said, is to develop a group of basic internet services that would be free of charge to use – 'a 911 for the internet.' These could be a social networking service like Facebook, a messaging service, maybe search and other things like weather. Providing a bundle of these free of charge to users will work like a gateway [02:23]
mircea_popescu drug of sorts – users who may be able to afford data services and phones these days just don’t see the point of why they would pay for those data services. This would give them some context for why they are important, and that will lead them to paying for more services like this – or so the hope goes." [02:23]
mircea_popescu this has got to be the most fucktarded business model i ever read. [02:23]
mircea_popescu so what, the reason i don't; buy an android tho i could afford to buy the engineer designing it is that... wait for it... it never occured to me to get... internet weather ? [02:24]
mircea_popescu god have mercy. [02:24]
justusranvier It's a perfectly fine business model. [02:24]
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mircea_popescu apparently there's lots we agree on :D [02:24]
justusranvier The spooks want Total Information Awareness. Zuckerberg is paid to get as many people as possible to opt in to surveillance. [02:24]
asciilifeform 'the '90s called, they want their aol retardation back' [02:24]
justusranvier That's his actual business [02:24]
punkman it would be a perfectly fine business model if they'd make some money from their crappy ads [02:25]
justusranvier As long as he keeps getting more people to voluntarily give him their data, he keeps getting paid [02:25]
mircea_popescu justusranvier but that's your theory. i am a businessman, i read what's written. [02:25]
mircea_popescu what's written is still dumb. [02:25]
mircea_popescu punkman right ? remember the days back when 1% CTR was LOW ? [02:25]
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punkman mircea_popescu: I do [02:26]
miaoux midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [02:26]
miaoux midnightmagic mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [02:26]
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mircea_popescu hey mike_c you got like 10 btc with your name on it! s.wol mktcap like 400 atm. [02:26]
punkman I could indeed make money while I was sleeping then [02:26]
asciilifeform next phase is to convince folks to voluntarily move into labour camp, etc. to get Free! internet/food/whatever [02:26]
mircea_popescu i couldn't sleep while making money [02:26]
mircea_popescu it was too exciting [02:26]
punkman that too [02:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform isn't that where you live ? [02:26]
asciilifeform lol [02:27]
mircea_popescu zingy zing-zing [02:27]
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punkman bought :P [02:27]
* asciilifeform met day's uranium quota, plays cards [02:27]
mircea_popescu this calls for some cats going "cans string???" [02:27]
mike_c mircea_popescu: sweet! new ATH [02:27]
mircea_popescu mike_c lol ya. [02:28]
justusranvier mircea_popescu: As you said, the business model on it's face is retarded. There's no way it could legitimately generate a profit. [02:28]
mircea_popescu pretty much [02:29]
justusranvier Facebook et al have been like that from the beginning [02:29]
mircea_popescu now this is true... i guess facebook just used the capital judiciously. [02:29]
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mircea_popescu "if you gave us all this money for nothing, now here's 3x as much nothing" [02:29]
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justusranvier So if it's not possible for them to legitmately generate profits, and they continue to as business, then at some point the most plausible explaination is their profit somes from some other source [02:29]
mircea_popescu btw, anyone read zuck's 10 page whitepaper on future of internets last year ? [02:30]
mircea_popescu justusranvier not necessarily. pirate didn't have "some other source" [02:30]
mircea_popescu manias are manias. [02:30]
justusranvier So Booz Allen Hamilton has one of their subsidaries start buying up analytics from advertising firms. Those firms become Facebook's customers. [02:30]
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mircea_popescu he got lucky to be hit with easy money just right. [02:31]
justusranvier Money gets transferred cleanly from three-letter-agency to Facebook without any obvious trail. [02:31]
mircea_popescu yeah. right. this totally works. [02:31]
justusranvier As long as you've got a buyer hidden somewhere with (effectively) infinately-deep pockets, then they can just put out RFQs and let it appear as if the "free market" has spontaneously formed an industry. [02:32]
mircea_popescu << a fine example of how well that works in practice. [02:33]
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mircea_popescu actual practice. [02:33]
punkman justusranvier: hidden things aren't what they used to be [02:33]
mircea_popescu the general rule is that no bureaucracy can hide anything. [02:33]
justusranvier Not for very long, no. [02:34]
mircea_popescu only people can hide, starting with the salami and ending where you please. [02:34]
Mats_cd03 asciilifeform: 3 hours spent trying to convince you he understands the usb stack better than you do. hilarious [02:35]
punkman fun presentation on hidden things [02:36]
assbot C3TV -Seeing The Secret State: Six Landscapes [02:36]
punkman dude takes some incredible photos [02:36]
benkay when something goes wrong... people fuck. // and when things go right... [02:37]
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punkman [02:37]
assbot Trevor Paglen :::: WORK [02:37]
mircea_popescu benkay also. [02:37]
mircea_popescu [02:40]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies? [02:40]
mircea_popescu "This cover story details #young #vulnerable #feminist writer Amanda Hess's frustration with disinterested male law enforcement when, after writing an article about receiving rape threats from a troll, she received rape threats from a troll." [02:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0439594 = 1.2748 BTC [-] [02:42]
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Mats_cd03 oh man [02:45]
Mats_cd03 "and then he stalked her on Facebook!" the humanity [02:47]
mircea_popescu "Anonymity makes the internet mean and gives trolls= men too much power." [02:47]
mircea_popescu oh boy, am i ever so grandiosely positioned for that one. can't wait. [02:47]
mircea_popescu You may at this point roll your eyes epileptically and retort, "well, who cares 'what the system wants', the fact is anonymity does embolden the lunatics, shouldn't we try to restrict it?" Great question, too bad it's irrelevant. You've taken the bait and put all your energy into accepting the form of the argument. The issue isn't whether we should abolish online anonymity, since this will never happen. For every Ameri [02:49]
mircea_popescu can senator trying to curb anonymity there's going to be a Scandinavian cyberpirate who will come up with a workaround, and only one of them knows how to code. Besides, there's no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom. [02:49]
mircea_popescu look at that, guy groks things enough to know pgp is the correct reference ? [02:49]
mircea_popescu dude make a wot account already, i'll rate you. [02:49]
Mats_cd03 This is the subtle shift: what starts out as "misogyny is bad" becomes "anonymity facilitates misogyny." [02:49]
Mats_cd03 crystallized something i have felt for a long time but am not eloquent to describe [02:50]
Mats_cd03 eloquent enough, anyway. [02:50]
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princessnell TLP is gr8, a fellow traveler i think [02:52]
mircea_popescu what's that mean ? [02:53]
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RSM Anyone interested may want to check - - current lowest share offer is 0.0006BTC while the RSM wallet is currently holding ~129BTC with only 131,000 shares on the market, plus RSM is currently holding ~4.500 of those shares. You do the math on each shares intrinsic value. We do still have to pay £15k to AlphaT for 19GH/s) of Scrypt ASIC's. So I guess it all depends on whether you think they'll at least R [02:55]
princessnell i mean i think he could be a culture fit [02:55]
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mircea_popescu RSM how's this working out for you [02:56]
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RSM we have ~129BTC in the wallet but have to pay £15k soon for 1(GH/s) of Scrypt ASIC's off AlphaT [02:56]
RSM plus have 5(TH/s)@5kW hashing [02:57]
mike_c ;;calc 129 / 131000 [02:57]
gribble 0.000984732824427 [02:57]
mike_c ;;calc .0006 / .000985 [02:58]
gribble 0.609137055838 [02:58]
mike_c i guess the market says there is a 40% chance you'll steal all the coin [02:58]
RSM 796 has nowhere near the any speculators like BCT did [02:58]
RSM lol I've been hear since 2011 [02:58]
mike_c ;;ident RSM [02:58]
gribble Nick 'RSM', with hostmask 'RSM!56b97cb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified. [02:58]
RSM why steal now after 4 years [02:59]
mike_c i don't think you will, the market does. [02:59]
Blazedout419 RSM has alpha got a working prototype yet? [02:59]
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dub [03:00]
assbot FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ [03:00]
RSM no, but they scrapped the internal PSU and are usuing offshelf already ceritifed PSU's now. So we're hopping they can do waht KNC did with Jupiters from recieving chips to shipping within a week [03:00]
dub bitches better recognize [03:00]
Mats_cd03 been hear huh? i am compelled by your education [03:00]
bitstein The Last Psychiatrist is one of the best things on the Internet. [03:01]
dub [03:01]
assbot Rhythm Quest - Closer To All Your Dreams - YouTube [03:01]
mike_c in my brief mining career i blew out a PSU. mining is such a wretched activity. [03:01]
Mats_cd03 be forewarned, asset-ers are not friendly to mining ventures as a general rule [03:01]
thestringpuller but it's so much fun [03:01]
thestringpuller Mats_cd03: pfft ThickAsThieves started his hustle mining [03:02]
Mats_cd03 and when was that [03:02]
mike_c but not actually mining [03:02]
Mats_cd03 two years ago? [03:02]
thestringpuller 2013 [03:02]
thestringpuller Like Spring? [03:02]
thestringpuller check logs son [03:02]
mike_c just pretend mining. lot harder to blow out psu's that way [03:02]
Mats_cd03 aite [03:02]
kakobrekla !s test [03:02]
assbot 879 results for 'test' : [03:02]
mircea_popescu yay [03:02]
thestringpuller dope [03:02]
Mats_cd03 nice [03:02]
asciilifeform neato [03:02]
mike_c !s from:kakobrekla test [03:03]
assbot 16 results for 'from:kakobrekla test' : [03:03]
mike_c awesome [03:03]
Mats_cd03 !s from:ThickAsThieves [03:03]
assbot 37982 results for 'from:ThickAsThieves' : [03:03]
RSM our main paln is to hopefully at least ROI on the 19GH/s) of scrypt and the current 5(TH/s). that's give us at least 150BTC then wait for then next bubble. We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months. [03:03]
RSM sorry 1(GH/s) of scrypt [03:04]
kakobrekla problem with from is it works on ":" only and well many use comma instead [03:04]
dub dude fuck off back to the forum [03:04]
thestringpuller << Lol "Relationship to Bitcon" what a typo [03:04]
assbot Namecoin - Bitcoin Wiki [03:04]
kakobrekla dunno if we should all switch to colon or make search use comma to parse 'to' as well [03:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04101311 = 1.0253 BTC [-] {4} [03:06]
mike_c who uses comma? [03:06]
kakobrekla i used to it seem, now im down to nothing [03:06]
bitcoinpete thestringpuller: like this bitcon? [03:06]
assbot CanadianBullion - 1 oz 2014 BitCON Silver Round [03:06]
kakobrekla blah [03:06]
RSM we own the bragging rights to being the oldest publicly traded bitcoin security afaik or at least mining stock. IPO started january 2012 [03:07]
mike_c meh. "to" seems unreliable regardless. not sure it adds much over simple "from + name" search anyway [03:07]
mike_c !s from:kakobrekla mike_c [03:08]
assbot 74 results for 'from:kakobrekla mike_c' : [03:08]
mike_c !s from:kakobrekla to:mike_c [03:08]
assbot 1 results for 'from:kakobrekla to:mike_c' : [03:08]
mike_c whoa [03:08]
kakobrekla see, there is comma a few times [03:09]
asciilifeform 'six landscapes' film << neat. wonder if the author has already fellated a nailgun. [03:09]
kakobrekla and mostly nothing. [03:09]
mike_c yeah. i don't think 'to' needs improving, just ignoring. [03:09]
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mircea_popescu << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit [03:12]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:12]
mircea_popescu and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja. [03:12]
kakobrekla ;;rate mthreat 1 spammicide searchinator [03:12]
mthreat see, there is comma a few times << I see what you mean. For the "to", I just extracted using regex: "^([a-zA-Z0-9-\_]+): " [03:12]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. [03:12]
RSM I want to move RSM trading potentially on to Counterparty, but afaik there's no way to ever halt trading if we want to move. Offtopic my speculation is that Etherum is taking so long as their trying to wait for side-chains possibly? [03:13]
mircea_popescu ;;ident RSM << guy's like nefario's oldest chav friend. [03:13]
mircea_popescu his spelling's not much improved over the years either. [03:13]
RSM why Chav coz i can't spell? [03:13]
kakobrekla mthreat dunno if theres a better solution, dont worry about it [03:13]
RSM I'm dsylexic too fu@k and you should see my handwriting [03:14]
mircea_popescu pretty much yeah [03:14]
mike_c dyslexia makes you replace 'c' with '@'? that sucks. [03:14]
kakobrekla the keys are right next to each other [03:14]
RSM I studied fast Fourier transforms and matrix manipulation as an under grad though so at least i can count [03:14]
mike_c you can manipulate the matrix?? that is impressive. [03:15]
kakobrekla the agents. they are here. [03:15]
RSM it's just patens to foloow [03:15]
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mircea_popescu "We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months." << what sense does this make ? [03:15]
kakobrekla ascii and mp were right all along. [03:15]
mircea_popescu do you provision for dividends orsometing ? [03:15]
RSM yeah currently about ~5.5BTc in the div fund [03:16]
mircea_popescu moiety you got a reddit hon ? [03:16]
RSM I'm starting a motion to raise the salry fund as the two current Linux system admins are paid peanuts [03:16]
Mats_cd03 lol [03:17]
RSM one of them is an abosulte CLI genuis. he's a slackware guru for the last four years [03:17]
Mats_cd03 im sure you think so [03:18]
RSM currently building a 05 fee LTC P2Pool node with a dedicated server going in the DCtomorow gonna make it public based in Kansas City [03:19]
RSM sorry 0% fee [03:19]
RSM they've got it merged-mining ten chains so far lolz [03:20]
moiety mircea_popescu: I do. Just for posting about [03:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082487 = 17.4872 BTC [+] [03:22]
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moiety lol np [03:23]
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asciilifeform 'agents, they are here' << 'we had no doubts that the dacha [place of n. s. khruschev's forced retirement] was festooned with microphones, but as to where the receiving devices and tape reels were emplaced - no one had any idea. somehow this did not interest us... ... i must say that the apparatus worked in a rather mediocre way, and the eavesdropping was conducted so shabbily, especially in the latter years of [03:28]
asciilifeform father's life. the guards who had replaced melnikov, often, instead of switching the tape reel to record, confused the buttons. then, from father's walls, you could hear muffled singing, instrumental pieces, stage concerts - the microphones had turned into speakers. sometimes, i allowed myself a laugh - would feign surprise at the ghostly music and offer to locate its source. in a moment, silence would always fa [03:28]
asciilifeform ll.' [03:28]
penguirker New blog post: [03:28]
asciilifeform (bio of n. s. khruschev, by his son. translation mine.) [03:28]
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asciilifeform ('Никита Хрущев. Пенсионер союзного значения.' Сергей Хрущев.) [03:29]
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kakobrekla amazing. [03:32]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:32]
thestringpuller ;;google dr. foreskin [03:33]
gribble These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr ...: ; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: [03:33]
thestringpuller ;;more [03:33]
gribble bagholder/> [03:33]
mircea_popescu !up greencabbige [03:33]
mircea_popescu lol [03:33]
-assbot- You voiced greencabbige for 30 minutes. [03:33]
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mircea_popescu cabbige [03:33]
greencabbige can I talk now? [03:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.194 = 0.97 BTC [-] [03:34]
mircea_popescu yes, for 30 minutes [03:34]
greencabbige looks like it [03:34]
greencabbige oh thought you lot wanted rid of me? [03:35]
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mircea_popescu !s #bitcoin-assets +m [03:35]
assbot Search the #bitcoin-assets log : [03:35]
mircea_popescu hm [03:35]
mircea_popescu ;;google #bitcoin-assets +m [03:35]
gribble #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; NEXT: 02-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: ; NEXT: 06-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: [03:35]
kakobrekla + is a special char [03:36]
greencabbige RSM is and I had a bit of gossip for you's in that IBWT is potentially working on a UK based securities exchange. he wants me to bring some shares over and manage it, but rsm board very worried of uk regulators. [03:36]
kakobrekla !s "+m" [03:36]
assbot 1050 results for '" m"' :"+m" [03:36]
kakobrekla lolk [03:36]
mthreat may need to URL encode it [03:36]
mthreat !s % [03:37]
assbot Error - : [03:37]
mthreat yep [03:37]
mircea_popescu edge case anyway [03:37]
kakobrekla but if if visit"+m" in my browser [03:37]
assbot 1050 results for '" m"' - #bitcoin-assets search [03:37]
kakobrekla the search sez " m" [03:37]
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mthreat the "+" would be %2B url-encoded [03:38]
mircea_popescu greencabbige so your 12 months dividends are going to be 5.5 btc in the future ? [03:38]
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kakobrekla !s "+m" [03:39]
assbot 1050 results for '"+m"' : [03:39]
kakobrekla aha [03:39]
kakobrekla werks [03:39]
mthreat yep [03:39]
mircea_popescu 25-06-2014 17:04:04 !t m d.bpay > ? [03:40]
mthreat now my [broken] terminal client (SecureCRT) double-url-encodes it. heh [03:40]
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kakobrekla heh [03:40]
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kakobrekla thats your reward for making the thing [03:41]
kakobrekla it will never work for you. [03:41]
mircea_popescu lmao [03:41]
mthreat it's ok, i'm stoic [03:41]
mircea_popescu whoa! [03:42]
mircea_popescu that'd be an excellent epitaph [03:42]
greencabbige if you divide the current RSM wallet by the amount of shares rsm doesn't own then that's a value of over 0.0010btc alone. While current lowest offer is 0.0006btc. Once we get a tracking code for 1(GH/s) of scrypt supposedly and hopefully within the next three to five weeks we're moving and buying all shares back below 0.0010. Where's the days of BTCT sepecualtion i share price went over 0.015 last summer our wallet w [03:42]
mthreat [03:43]
mircea_popescu greencabbige you got your 2012 books published anywhere ? [03:44]
mircea_popescu mthreat yours? [03:44]
kakobrekla hm mthreat , "+m" will match "m" [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00082525 = 9.903 BTC [+] {2} [03:46]
mthreat mircea_popescu: nope. mine is [03:46]
mthreat kakobrekla: yeah, +m just means "m is required" in the search language [03:46]
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greencabbige possibly somewhere although i did it all my self then so very messy. Like I said our share price was 0.015 what saved us is I offered 0.002 per share for new funds to buy three KNC Jupiters. the shareholders we mostly against it, but i new those bfl's wernt worth shit. So it kind saved our bacon, but drastically lowered share price as I bought in 200% more shares and there's no knew buyers on 796. [03:47]
mircea_popescu kinda loud neh ? [03:47]
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kakobrekla yes, but even when quoting it [03:47]
kakobrekla im not saying '+m' but '"+m"' [03:47]
mthreat kakobrekla: right. there's no way to search for the plus sign. [03:47]
bitcoinpete << a matter of time [03:47]
assbot exploited and bitcoins stolen | Mineforeman [03:47]
kakobrekla aha ok [03:47]
mthreat kakobrekla: all text gets tokenized [03:47]
kakobrekla rgr [03:47]
mircea_popescu greencabbige so you started a mining security in jan 2012 at 0.015, now trading at 0.006 and don't have any books. [03:47]
bitstein mthreat: love that plate [03:49]
greencabbige we've been on three exchanges now everything is fully recorded in our old thread. yes i have loads of old spreadsheets. Although the accounts guy didn't comne on board until last summer We orginally raised 200BTC in early 2012 then 120BTc last summer. [03:49]
mthreat bitstein: thx [03:51]
asciilifeform Math.random() << lol! [03:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00082758 = 18.0412 BTC [+] {2} [03:51]
bitstein Both of them. [03:51]
greencabbige I think our intial seed funding from the orgianlly IPO was about $2.5k we now about 480k in bitcoins alone, a server, 5TH/s and a 30% depsoit on 1(GH/s) of scrypt. [03:51]
greencabbige sorry [03:51]
greencabbige $80k in the wallet [03:51]
asciilifeform 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench [03:51]
mircea_popescu ^ [03:52]
Mats_cd03 if you want to be in the black a year from now, sadly your best play is just to take off with the funds [03:52]
Mats_cd03 the sad state of being involved in an enterprise you can't control and don't understand [03:52]
greencabbige no we can get 200BTC by next year and bitcoin could go to $5k. We have a cool $1million to play with then. [03:53]
mthreat amazing plan! [03:54]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:54]
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kakobrekla why am i hearing dollars, who said that? [03:54]
greencabbige better than fu~k all if you ask me [03:54]
asciilifeform amazing currency! [03:54]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:54]
greencabbige as hardware is priced in dollars [03:54]
greencabbige during a bubble all the current in stock gear that won't roi will easily roi [03:55]
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mircea_popescu this would be the epitome of do it yourself finance / citizen dentistry. [03:55]
Mats_cd03 whats your plan when hash goes to 1000ph and all your gear makes fractions of a penny? [03:55]
asciilifeform citizen appendectomy. [03:55]
benkay 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench // or...morels [03:56]
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mircea_popescu also i am noticing in disbelief i missed out a 0. it's not 0.015 to 0.006 but to 0.0006 [03:56]
benkay !b 1 [03:56]
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greencabbige ffs matt do you think I can't use a calcualtor or know anything about any of that sh~t I've been hear since 2011. So aint even gonna answer that. [03:56]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.0006 / 0.015 [03:56]
gribble 0.04 [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00082812 = 17.0419 BTC [+] {2} [03:57]
benkay four hundredths your money back in two years! [03:57]
kakobrekla ognasty did better. [03:57]
kakobrekla only 65% loss there. [03:57]
mircea_popescu but that's a social club [03:57]
greencabbige ok if you really wanna know with all our old gear we've sold it on ebay for more than we calcualted we'd a flogged out of it in the endz [03:58]
mircea_popescu greencabbige so is it true that nefario used you to launder all the fraudulent claims he made for various holdings on his own exchange after he closed it down ? [03:58]
greencabbige ? [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24067 @ 0.0008282 = 19.9323 BTC [+] [03:59]
greencabbige news to me [03:59]
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Mats_cd03 if selling burned gear is how you anticipate roi, you're in for a bad time [03:59]
greencabbige i hardley now the guy, I met him once briefly [03:59]
mircea_popescu that it can't be, as the charge was levied back in 2012. [03:59]
mircea_popescu well, no, not really. [03:59]
Mats_cd03 GL finding a bagholder, that will surely be a feat of strength if you can manage it again [04:00]
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mircea_popescu << for that matter here you go, august 2013. [04:01]
assbot FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ | Page 2 | [04:01]
greencabbige ffs getting tired of this shit now. for a start if we sell it on ebay then people can buy it with a credit card to gety into a bitcoin. one of the only the ways to get in to bicoin safely with a credit card. Why all the attacks? [04:01]
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mircea_popescu i think seinfeld has the answer to that. [04:02]
mircea_popescu [04:02]
assbot Seinfeld: No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability, No Brains. . . - YouTube [04:02]
greencabbige ok if oyu're all gonna tag team on me with your littel club I'll just leave then should and carry on. We don't need any new money. we're currently in the strongest position we've ever been. [04:02]
Mats_cd03 greencabbige: because mining now is a net loss. i hope you come back to this conversation when you have toasted your runway [04:03]
Mats_cd03 and consider the cacophony of voices insisting you're fucking wrong. [04:03]
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mircea_popescu if this club is littel i shudder to think what bigness looks like. [04:05]
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benkay disregard them greencabbige it's an echo chamber [04:07]
benkay they just reinforce the same set of tired old mantras [04:07]
benkay "business is hard" [04:07]
benkay "mining is -ev" [04:07]
benkay fn cult i tell ya [04:07]
mircea_popescu actually it was more like "where's your books" and "why are you -96%" [04:08]
mircea_popescu but same principle. [04:08]
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-assbot- You voiced RagnarDanneskjol for 30 minutes. [04:10]
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benkay is danneskjol some sort of proxy for "bitch of"? [04:10]
benkay linguistic transform [04:10]
RagnarDanneskjol bitch is my phone [04:11]
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benkay right on [04:11]
mircea_popescu tlb brings a good point. how come in the war between spooks and techs, it's the TECHS that get accused of being mysogynistic ? [04:17]
mircea_popescu im pretty certain fewer women work for the nsa and generally for the us secret service community than for silicon valley firms [04:17]
mircea_popescu at least from the supposedly secret usg employment rolls i've seen to date. [04:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31042 @ 0.00082822 = 25.7096 BTC [+] {4} [04:19]
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mircea_popescu "If I had to put my chips and my children against an 8 year rotation of civil service nincompoops vs. some nerd with an open marriage who spent $15M on a "bachelor pad" so he could score chicks of questionable emotional stability, I'm going with the group my private sector lawyers have an outside chance of pwoning." [04:22]
mircea_popescu somebody fundamentally gets it. [04:22]
mircea_popescu you don't fuck with people with bachelor pads and open relationships. [04:22]
RagnarDanneskjol HA [04:22]
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dub is there bitcoin for iphone yet? [04:26]
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mircea_popescu iphcoin coming soon [04:27]
benkay man okay guys talk me off this cliff [04:27]
benkay iphone wallet [04:27]
benkay spv makes it possible right? [04:27]
dub blockchain has an iphone-app page [04:28]
dub clearly I dont have an iphone to check with [04:28]
benkay but a non api app [04:29]
benkay this is doable, i b'leev. [04:29]
mike_c [04:29]
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benkay " [04:30]
dub friend wants to accept buttcoin but suffer appleblight [04:30]
dub alternative is $50 droidphone i guess [04:31]
bloctoc dub coinpocket works [04:32]
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RagnarDanneskjol tell him to try airwallet [disclosure, its hosted by me]. doesnt seem wise using appstore wallets as they might disappear tomorrow [04:37]
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bloctoc coinpocket can export private key. not disparaging airwallet - just never used it. [04:42]
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thestringpuller lulz [05:12]
thestringpuller moar lulz [05:12]
mircea_popescu lol [05:14]
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mircea_popescu Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities an [05:17]
mircea_popescu d NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500. [05:17]
mircea_popescu ok, quite splendid. the us is chock full of supposedly rich people who are about as powerless as a random south american whore [05:18]
mircea_popescu the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful is perhaps the lulziest part of the bezzle system. [05:18]
thestringpuller damn transaction scripts are hard to grasp at first [05:18]
asciilifeform the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful << actually the u.s. system is quite like the classical soviet world of 'special access' groceries, gov.-issued dachas, official limousines [05:19]
asciilifeform bureaucrat gets fellated in various little ways, in exchange for... a readiness to get down on his knees, ready to please. [05:20]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol think you know someone wanna do ? [05:20]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [05:20]
mircea_popescu that'd be the exact antithesis of power. [05:21]
asciilifeform correct [05:21]
asciilifeform i.e. liveried servitude [05:21]
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mircea_popescu !up RagnarDanneskjol [05:23]
-assbot- You voiced RagnarDanneskjol for 30 minutes. [05:23]
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asciilifeform american apparatchik gets a bag of bezzlars, 'his' to use to 'buy' manhattan penthouse. but same purpose as dacha near moscow issued to a similar creature [05:23]
RagnarDanneskjol I'm on it. pls standby [05:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform also with a sort of paper cert. [05:23]
mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol that's what i do all day anyway :D [05:23]
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decimation re: liveried servitude << why? [05:32]
assbot Council of European Canadians: The Great Fear --- Why do Whites Fear their own Ethnicity? [05:32]
asciilifeform << that old rusty gizmo, still generating lulz [05:32]
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assbot This is AMAZINGLY engrossing. [05:32]
decimation I find the main human weakness w.r.t. generating randomness is a great aversion to repeated outcomes [05:33]
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asciilifeform for some reason, it's mostly female names/portraits linking to it these days. maybe mircea_popescu can shed light on why. [05:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform males got selected for decisive action, females for an ability to withstand brainhacking. [05:36]
mircea_popescu (the better ones get hacked by better guys thus make offspring that suvives better) [05:36]
mircea_popescu that thing doesn't look appealing to decisive action, but it does look insidiously like brain hacking. [05:36]
* asciilifeform made pet female play the 'game' shortly after first met. she beat the machine in about two minutes, by counting letters in words from memory, objects in surroundings, etc. [05:37]
mircea_popescu "Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy [05:37]
decimation "Of these speakers, Jeffrey Sachs, leading international economic adviser and director of the Earth Institute, is the most articulate in his explicit admission that we must follow the ideology of diversity regardless of what the scientific evidence says." [05:37]
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decimation mircea, in many US states it is illeagal to record conversations without both party's explict permission [05:38]
asciilifeform (the cpp version thereof) [05:38]
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mircea_popescu decimation well yes. [05:39]
decimation the primary purpose of such laws is to protect corrupt politicians from being exposed, of course [05:40]
mircea_popescu in those same other states it's illegal to present yourself as a "leading international adviser" while you're a sort of rsm. [05:40]
decimation rsm ? [05:40]
mircea_popescu !s from:rsm [05:41]
assbot 5 results for 'from:rsm' : [05:41]
decimation are you propsing that Professor Sachs belongs in the same category as bitcoin scammers? [05:42]
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mircea_popescu i do, yes. [05:44]
mircea_popescu what's he done ? [05:44]
mircea_popescu i mean other than running the markov chain apparatus of opinion. [05:44]
decimation actually I think that's kind of an insult to the scammers [05:44]
decimation at least they ran some risk, he just collects his tenure pay [05:44]
mircea_popescu notrly. they don't run any risk if they can help it. and besides, he was young once, he ran the risk of no tenure. [05:45]
mircea_popescu a very bad risk, from what i hear. [05:45]
decimation true. getting tenure in the us university is a nightmare, from what I've heard [05:45]
decimation in fact his entire behavior seems perfectly consistant with your quote from ascii's link [05:46]
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mircea_popescu actually, i will readily PROVE to you he's exactly in the same category. [05:46]
mircea_popescu know what this is ? [05:46]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ [05:46]
decimation interestingly it pops up in a link on the last pscyhiactrist's blog [05:47]
mircea_popescu interestingly, it's his donation address. with 6 bitcents in it. [05:48]
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mircea_popescu tlp makes less than trilema. that's my proof sachs = rsm. [05:48]
mircea_popescu acceptable ? [05:48]
RagnarDanneskjol [05:48]
assbot Why Jeffrey Sachs matters [05:48]
RagnarDanneskjol Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL [05:48]
decimation so to be clear, you are pointing out that someone who actually has original thoughts has a few bitcents, while sachs is raking in the speaking fees? [05:49]
mircea_popescu no. i am pointing out that someone whose brain works quite well but who wastes his time THERE rather than hire makes piddly squat. [05:49]
mircea_popescu and the THERE is the there of sachs. [05:49]
mircea_popescu s/hire/here, apparently dyslexia is contagious [05:49]
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mircea_popescu so, the argument goes, invest your btc with rsm, 4% left in three years [05:51]
mircea_popescu or invest your intelligence with the bezzle, 4% left in thirty years ? [05:51]
mircea_popescu in the end, the fuck's the difference. [05:51]
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extra hey guys so [05:52]
extra i'm meeting the coinbase co-founders at a Q&A tomorrow [05:53]
extra any questions you want me to ask them ? [05:53]
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mircea_popescu what's their burn rate, or alternatively how long they got. [05:53]
decimation are they planning on actually making a real exchange on us soil? [05:55]
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extra good Q [05:56]
decimation if so, how many regulators in how many states have they met with? how many lawyers retained? [05:56]
decimation because if the answer is 0, they are just dicking around [05:56]
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bloctoc if the answer is more than 0 they are double plus dicking around [06:00]
mircea_popescu << this just in [06:00]
decimation bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds [06:01]
decimation it's interesting that this kind of wealth exists today in bitcoin yet no one is willing to spend it on bureaucracy [06:01]
mircea_popescu decimation nah, it's not that bad [06:02]
decimation mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema? [06:02]
mircea_popescu bout half ? [06:02]
mircea_popescu doesn't really matter anyway, a kid that's not bilingual is not literate anyway [06:03]
decimation there's much truth to that [06:03]
mircea_popescu letters used to come with latin in a package for this reason [06:03]
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decimation mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying [06:05]
decimation at least, not without making any noise about it [06:05]
mircea_popescu it[s not that clearly profitable. [06:05]
decimation well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing [06:06]
mircea_popescu you're grossly overestimating what it'd cost, it's maybe over 1mn but pretty sure under 10. [06:06]
decimation you would have to engage lawyers in 50 states and DC for sure [06:06]
decimation or start small and build up [06:06]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn [06:06]
mircea_popescu well done, almost paid with your legalese bill. let's hope all advertising was free [06:06]
decimation surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play [06:07]
mircea_popescu but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux [06:07]
mircea_popescu yah, and they'll use your exchange [06:07]
mircea_popescu because why ? [06:07]
decimation heh good point [06:07]
mircea_popescu the us "market" is underserved for a reason. you can't get good wine, either, nor good cheese [06:08]
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mircea_popescu nor good bread nor actual linen shirts nor steel engine blocks. [06:08]
mircea_popescu none of these'd be hard to do, legally. [06:08]
mircea_popescu the practicalities of a healthy sex life in argentina : as everywhere in south america, abortions are illegal here. [06:13]
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mircea_popescu the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river. [06:13]
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asciilifeform wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay. [06:14]
decimation what about portable nuclear reactors? [06:15]
assbot Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [06:15]
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moiety any redditors around? [06:15]
decimation So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone [06:16]
asciilifeform wtf is a redditor [06:16]
moiety people who reddit [06:16]
mircea_popescu decimation those aren't really something you'd want [06:16]
moiety apparently [06:16]
* asciilifeform did once [06:16]
decimation then use the energy to convert carbon via fischer-troph to synthetic fuel [06:16]
mircea_popescu did you get banned ? [06:16]
moiety not yet [06:16]
moiety oh asciilifeform lol [06:16]
asciilifeform [06:17]
assbot overview for asciilifeform [06:17]
asciilifeform apparently not banned yet [06:17]
decimation they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s [06:17]
assbot Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [06:17]
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decimation my point is that many americans and 'allies' died in Afghanistan and Iraq transporting fuel to bases [06:18]
decimation they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty [06:18]
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mircea_popescu more like because it doesn't work so well. [06:19]
decimation what, nuclear fission? [06:19]
mircea_popescu portable nuclear reacors [06:20]
decimation well, like any engineering project it depends on the design [06:20]
mircea_popescu So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems – from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic “Field of Dreams” approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis [06:21]
mircea_popescu er, irrigation, and better seeds. [06:21]
mircea_popescu But the MVP didn’t simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, “Pineapple couldn’t be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour.” The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didn’t come. [06:21]
mircea_popescu ahjahahaha o god. [06:22]
mircea_popescu i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people" [06:22]
mircea_popescu all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs. [06:22]
asciilifeform incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one. [06:23]
mircea_popescu Of course, Sachs knows that it’s critical to understand market dynamics; he’s one of the world’s smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders. [06:23]
mircea_popescu Warren Buffett likes to say, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.” Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out. [06:23]
mircea_popescu All of the interventions involved – health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money – make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didn’t work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation [06:23]
mircea_popescu dude wants more taxes. that's the way! [06:24]
mircea_popescu and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere. [06:24]
mircea_popescu this sort of prose should be a penal offense. [06:24]
decimation "Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic [06:26]
decimation individuals inside hotels, restaurants, and conferences. " [06:26]
mircea_popescu heh [06:26]
mircea_popescu yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel. [06:27]
mircea_popescu they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last [06:27]
mircea_popescu and left the flap up [06:27]
decimation right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours [06:27]
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decimation so therefore, open the third world's floodgates [06:28]
mircea_popescu the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered. [06:28]
mircea_popescu "But that’s not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ? [06:29]
mircea_popescu "dude failed but that's ok, he worked hard". wtf just how rotten is that mental space. [06:29]
decimation there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten [06:29]
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decimation in the same way that ascii's hunter finds that the deer walk up to him and lay down [06:31]
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decimation mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: [06:39]
assbot Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [06:39]
decimation "In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure" [06:39]
mircea_popescu why's that so helpful ? [06:40]
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decimation it makes the situation plain as day: there is no allodial title outside the government [06:43]
decimation plenty of people in the west think that they 'own' their land [06:43]
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decimation in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land [06:45]
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mircea_popescu sucks for hawaii [06:45]
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mircea_popescu anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title [06:46]
mircea_popescu it was phased out mostly at the owner's request. [06:46]
decimation Herr Walker has a new book review: [06:46]
assbot Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason) [06:46]
decimation I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing [06:48]
mircea_popescu omfg the blue [06:48]
decimation browse in 'links' [06:48]
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decimation the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change." [06:52]
decimation I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect [06:52]
mircea_popescu maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic [06:53]
mircea_popescu the guy does have one excellent point tho : if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your assets into a hedge probably far exceeds the marginal utility of putting the other 90% [07:03]
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mircea_popescu "Roughly half the counties in our nation lack a single OB/GYN physician to care for women." [07:06]
mircea_popescu guess the country. [07:06]
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asciilifeform usa [07:06]
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decimation yeah ob/gyn is a known target for legal scammers in the us [07:08]
decimation your kid comes out a 'tard - it's the doctor's faul [07:08]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your << there is another possible observation here. quite a few of the folks who might otherwise take an interest in bitcoin are 'collapse pessimists' - i.e. believe in the 'lead standard.' [07:11]
decimation yeah it's interesting that the "lead standard" crowd seems to have not adopted bitcoin [07:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.04113518 = 2.139 BTC [-] {4} [07:12]
asciilifeform (why a fellow who could afford to mount some semblance of adequate preparation for lead standard would stay in usa, is a question for them - not me) [07:12]
asciilifeform best hypothesis i know of - some folks want to 'die well' rather than live [07:13]
penguirker New blog post: [07:14]
decimation yeah the amusing thing about most of those types is that they seem to want to "own" their own own bunker or whatever, rather than the more obvious strategy of "recruit army, train" [07:14]
asciilifeform 'recruit army' in peacetime generally gets you 'hutareed' [07:15]
asciilifeform ;;google hutaree [07:15]
gribble Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Judge acquits 7 Hutaree militia members accused of terrorist ...: ; hutaree - YouTube: [07:15]
asciilifeform (minus the acquittal, normally) [07:15]
decimation well, you certainly cannot make usg your enemy either [07:15]
asciilifeform if you organize anything in usa that even vaguely resembles an army from a distance, you've made the enemy [07:16]
asciilifeform i dare say the folks who want to stick around to enjoy a hypothetical north american zimbabwe (usa minus mains current, sewer, water) are justifiably disinterested in btc [07:18]
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asciilifeform speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit [07:19]
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asciilifeform walking trails in public parks here are, for various reasons, built on top of sewer mains (cheap right of way?) [07:20]
asciilifeform sometimes, you'll encounter a structure that looks like this: [07:20]
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asciilifeform that's a 'lift station.' normally sewer is operated by gravity. but often, for reasons of cost, a pipe will be laid uphill. [07:21]
asciilifeform and one of these (electric pump) is built. [07:21]
asciilifeform no mains current - no flow. [07:21]
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decimation this is a big problem in the maryland/dc area because it's a swamp [07:23]
decimation there's not much "downhill" to be had [07:24]
asciilifeform correct. [07:24]
decimation my own understanding of many of the 'trails' the DC area is that they were mostly railroad right-of-ways [07:25]
asciilifeform mostly from the (destroyed) trolley system from the first half of 20th c. [07:26]
decimation yep. here's an example: [07:26]
assbot WB&A Trail | Maryland Trails | [07:26]
decimation they only reason the right-of-ways survived coherently is because utilities like power were still in use long after the railroads went bankrupt [07:27]
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decimation it's quite enlightening to study the ownership path of the right-of-way deeds. One realizes that us infrastructure is pretty much like openssl: everyone knows it's a horrible pit, everyone uses it, no will to 'fix' it [07:30]
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asciilifeform this, incidentally, is also where you find fiber. [07:30]
asciilifeform conveniently marked for enemy saboteurs. [07:30]
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asciilifeform (usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro) [07:32]
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decimation there was another amusing example in the DC area a few years ago, after the "derecho" thunderstorm. power was out everywher - why? because none of the treehuggers would let the power-line clearances be maintained [07:33]
decimation result: constant loss of power (especially in older neighborhoods like in PG county) [07:33]
asciilifeform more complicated. the tree trimmers routinely cut fiber (likewise strung overhead) [07:34]
asciilifeform and so people resist them. [07:34]
asciilifeform (trunk lines are buried; houses usually have pole connections) [07:34]
decimation yeah most cable companies "rent" the low wire on power poles [07:34]
asciilifeform [07:35]
assbot The One Fiber Optic Cable No One on the Dig for Tysons Rail Wants to Hit [07:35]
asciilifeform ^ incident in question [07:35]
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decimation I found the metro to be generally useless [07:38]
decimation it takes an hour to get downtown, stopping at every useless ghetto on the way [07:38]
mircea_popescu * RUchamp_ (a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets << dear chan, since i've made that 0.1 btc for titties post, mind voicing new names off webchat for a while ? [07:39]
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asciilifeform city can't really exist without something like metro. (trivial arithmetic - calculate what fraction of city would have to be demolished for parking lots if every bureaucrat had to drive in.) [07:39]
mircea_popescu it's in the interest of greater titage. [07:39]
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decimation I guess my real point is that much of DC is an uninhabitable mad max land [07:40]
decimation and the parts that aren't are bezzle-priced [07:40]
mircea_popescu why are survivalist group womenz always so a) rare and b) unattractive [07:42]
decimation I think most women (quite practically) would rather die than live in mad max land [07:43]
mircea_popescu why ? [07:44]
decimation what portion of humanity would commit suicide if they were transported to 100 AD sans iphones? [07:44]
mircea_popescu i imagine more boys than girls at any rate. [07:45]
mircea_popescu no porn right ? [07:45]
decimation heh good point [07:45]
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decimation !up mgio [07:46]
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mircea_popescu I can get 1 CME every 25-50 seconds, depending on my ability to click "b". [08:00]
mircea_popescu ahaha o boy [08:00]
decimation as in "continuing medical education"? [08:01]
mircea_popescu yea [08:02]
dub hey, doing drugs is studying medicine [08:02]
mircea_popescu press b [08:02]
decimation too bad you can't sell your credits [08:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00081831 = 9.4106 BTC [-] [08:03]
decimation are you working on maintaining your medical license with the state? [08:04]
mircea_popescu who me ?! [08:05]
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decimation well, why else would you be trying to hoard CME credits? [08:06]
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mircea_popescu im just reading this dude's site [08:06]
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decimation ah the last pscychiatrist guy? [08:06]
mircea_popescu ya [08:06]
mircea_popescu i really can't see myself getting a license from anyone to anyting. [08:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081799 = 10.0613 BTC [-] {2} [08:09]
mgio hello everyone [08:12]
mircea_popescu hi [08:12]
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mircea_popescu The logic of a 10 year MOC exam is to keep us up to date, so it's fair to ask: what in psychiatry has changed in ten years, what are the major advances? Depakote was discovered to be the default maintenance mood stabilizer despite no evidence supporting this, but that fell into disuse at a time oddly coinciding with its patent expiration, which is suspicious but I'm no epidemiologist. Anyway, it wasn't on the test. Any [08:15]
mircea_popescu thing else? A few new medicines have come out, though none of them appeared on the test either. There's money to be made on the west coast using giant magnets, (fortunately) also not on the test. So? Was the ABPN worried I'd forget how to use MAOIs? I'm never going to use them, I have enough problems monitoring Xanax. The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry [08:15]
mircea_popescu has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam. [08:15]
mircea_popescu there. [08:15]
mircea_popescu maybe i should spend my money printing fliers of this guy's blog instead. [08:15]
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mircea_popescu most of the comments are derping about the guy's identity [08:19]
mircea_popescu i wasn't aware this was a secret [08:19]
decimation the history of medicene is mostly about trying to heal people but failing miserably [08:20]
decimation why should someone in this age have a different conceit? [08:20]
mircea_popescu depends how you look at it. [08:21]
mircea_popescu do you suppose medicine is responsible for all health ? or just for those cases it picks up ? [08:21]
decimation well no one can be responsible for everything [08:21]
decimation so the latter [08:22]
mircea_popescu but currently it's mostly regarded as "the health of the population" is a thing. [08:22]
mircea_popescu by the latter criterion i'd guess medicine is mostly successful [08:22]
mircea_popescu just as long as you don't try curing things that don't have a cure [08:23]
decimation like for instance, your brain has the crazy [08:24]
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decimation !up Cory [08:24]
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mircea_popescu i'd be kinda curious to see how a country worked where the cure for insanity was 2 years in parliament. [08:25]
mircea_popescu and they put in padded cells the sorts of idiots that wish to spend their time running for an office instead. [08:25]
decimation I'd say most democratic systems have created this situation anyway. What kind of person wants to be a bureaucrat who appears to be in charge yet can affect nothing? [08:27]
mircea_popescu actually that's the most appealing. [08:28]
mircea_popescu ask anyone, would they rather fuck a bunch of women, or would they rather not fuck at all but be regarded by their peers as a modern casanova ? [08:28]
decimation good point, except in the former case they would be considered pond scum [08:29]
mircea_popescu hardly. [08:29]
mircea_popescu maybe by racist xenophobe male chauvinist reactionaries [08:29]
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decimation lol [08:30]
mircea_popescu y con queso [08:30]
decimation Congress has a 5% approval rating [08:30]
decimation yet most congressmen get re-elected [08:30]
decimation I guess the shame of the institution doesn't attach to its individual members [08:30]
decimation I suppose there's a reason that the Washington Monument is a giant phallus, welcoming the incoming classes of young interns [08:32]
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mircea_popescu lol the only reason they get re-elected is the seniority system [08:35]
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decimation you think the median voter knows about committee appointments? [08:37]
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mircea_popescu no, but it makes no difference [08:40]
mircea_popescu it's like asking me if the median fridge user knows about the carnot cycle [08:40]
decimation people vote the party their parents voted generally [08:41]
decimation so it's a demographic thing, seems to me [08:41]
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FabianB "<+mircea_popescu> FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ?" << number of unconfirmed transactions in btc network [08:41]
mircea_popescu i think it only appears demographic because there's allignment between the actual causes and demographics. [08:42]
mircea_popescu FabianB a nice! [08:42]
mircea_popescu $unconfirmed [08:42]
empyex mircea_popescu: 2039 [08:42]
mircea_popescu are you well connected enough to do a $dblspent ? [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00082031 = 11.8945 BTC [+] [08:42]
FabianB mircea_popescu: source is not one of my own bitcoind but currently [08:45]
mircea_popescu ah [08:46]
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mircea_popescu well it may be useful if you're into the nitty gritty of it, merchants could always query your service if in doubt [08:46]
mircea_popescu kinda larger sort of investment to make it go, i guess. [08:46]
FabianB hmm.. will think about dblspent [08:46]
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mircea_popescu having a few dedicated trusted watchers certainly cheaper than "everyone" doing their own watching, and certainly better than current situation (where most everyone doesn't do any) [08:48]
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FabianB yeah, source should be more decentralized for that than probably [08:54]
assbot Bitcoin Double Spends - [08:54]
mircea_popescu well if you run your own node(s) with good peerage it'd come from there [08:57]
mircea_popescu otherwise tgere;'s little value to just you know, making a web url alias [08:57]
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FabianB yeah [08:57]
mircea_popescu so romania's other great blogger switched to english : [08:58]
assbot Looking at the art world over Adrian Ghenies shoulder and why I hate it or love it. Not sure. [08:58]
mircea_popescu romania now has pretty much no bloggers left at all. [08:58]
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decimation would you say the portion of youth in romania who speak english is equal to argentina's portion? [08:59]
mircea_popescu pretty much [08:59]
mircea_popescu i never met an intelligent young man that couldn't read it [08:59]
mircea_popescu now actually speaking it... [09:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12946 @ 0.00081804 = 10.5903 BTC [-] {2} [09:02]
mircea_popescu ‘It’s so dark’ a still ignorant third friend completed. Couldn’t see her complexion, probably because it was in fact so dark. She wasn’t black, but that’d be something, right? [09:02]
mircea_popescu !up conwke [09:02]
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decimation wtf does that mean? [09:06]
mircea_popescu it's a quoter [09:06]
decimation hehe [09:07]
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conwke I haven't used IRC in years, its strange being back on [09:08]
mircea_popescu enjoi. [09:09]
mircea_popescu and im off. nn ppls! [09:09]
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ThickAsThieves It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it [17:52]
ThickAsThieves at all? [17:52]
ThickAsThieves the option to learn and practice this is only as expensive as i permit it to be [17:53]
mike_c if traders are all following the same script there is no profit to be made.. [17:53]
ThickAsThieves in that rigid example, of course [17:54]
ThickAsThieves but it's all things, not one [17:54]
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artifexd mircea_popescu: No, she can't. Give me an example of how you would use it and what you would expect in return and I'll see what I can do. [17:57]
mircea_popescu artifexd << fill in those fields hit search [17:57]
assbot Browse BitBet [17:57]
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artifexd For example: "[]bb earthquakes" would return the bet closing soonest and a bet odds summary [17:59]
punkman mthreat could grab my bitbet database if he wanted to add it to the main search [18:00]
artifexd Or do you want the biggest? A link to a dpaste with links? I mean, what do you want her to show in here? [18:00]
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artifexd Should she take sorting options? Return the top 5 bets and links? Only the top bet in the search? [18:00]
TheNewDeal eathquales, wtf? [18:00]
artifexd Just an example. :) [18:01]
artifexd "[]bb world cup" could return a whole lot of results. [18:02]
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pankkake there actually was a bet about earthquakes [18:04]
pankkake actually, there are 3 open [18:04]
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TheNewDeal ahh I gotcha [18:06]
TheNewDeal I thought you were saying earthquake was the command to return the closing soonest and odds summary... [18:07]
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TheNewDeal ;;nethash [18:07]
gribble 1.72688358042 [18:07]
artifexd Oh. Nah. [18:08]
TheNewDeal what is that? [18:08]
TheNewDeal thought nethash usualy returns something like 1.17E10 or whatever [18:08]
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mircea_popescu o hey that patriarchy article yielded quite the scandal huh [18:09]
mircea_popescu punkman he could but this has params [18:11]
punkman yeah, easier to query the SQL than html search [18:12]
punkman but I can add search function to the library, was planning to anyway [18:13]
mircea_popescu ah yeah [18:13]
mircea_popescu wait which lib is this ? [18:13]
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punkman the lib uses [18:14]
mircea_popescu o hey cool. [18:14]
mircea_popescu is artifexd's bot based onm ? [18:14]
mircea_popescu (sorry for the noob questions, i'm new here and i don't even code) [18:14]
punkman nah [18:14]
mircea_popescu !up _biO_ [18:15]
-assbot- You voiced _biO_ for 30 minutes. [18:15]
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punkman he made the bot before I published [18:15]
mircea_popescu artifexd take a param. nth [18:15]
mircea_popescu defaults to 1 [18:16]
artifexd My bot is written from scratch by me. [18:16]
mircea_popescu wd! [18:16]
artifexd Bitbet's search can return json so it isn't a problem. Just add /.json to the end. [18:17]
mircea_popescu i always wondered what "from scratch" really means. like, someone got an itch and so the software is written from scratch ? :D [18:17]
mircea_popescu a that's right. [18:17]
mircea_popescu The things he said, like "Josh is not gay, he's bi" or "Sonny fucked the girls from the production line" sound more like irrelevant bullshit from a crazy person than credible information. [18:18]
mircea_popescu wait, sonny doesn't fuck the production line girls ?! that lozer. [18:18]
_biO_ seems like I have voice [18:18]
_biO_ what do i do now, halp [18:18]
mircea_popescu lol. who're you ? [18:19]
_biO_ I am _biO_, obviously [18:19]
_biO_ soon to be voiceless, I guess. [18:20]
mthreat everyone gets their 30 minutes of fame [18:20]
mircea_popescu pankkake: you might say "GUIs", but I want them in screen, in ssh, and be keyboard driven only << kinda like all glyphs no ? [18:20]
mircea_popescu back in the day on the z80 you could define the 8x8 bitmap of a glyph [18:20]
mircea_popescu use special glyph sets as poor man's grapics. [18:21]
mircea_popescu resulting in these bitmaps that could only be colored in 8x8 chunks [18:21]
punkman ;;view 20793 [18:21]
gribble #20793 Wed Jun 18 21:37:08 2014 punkman SELL 1.0 app @ 2 BTC (Interactive commandline application, written in Python, using curses/ncurses.) [18:21]
_biO_ i once build a window manager in basic [18:21]
_biO_ :( [18:21]
_biO_ with ASCII art etc [18:21]
mircea_popescu _biO_ so yu worked for windows 2.0 ? [18:21]
pankkake that looks like a cool solution [18:21]
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mircea_popescu i made so many 8x8 tanks and rockets... [18:22]
pankkake punkman: so you're selling the application, but the library it uses is open, is that right? [18:22]
punkman no that's bespoke application [18:22]
punkman is free [18:22]
mircea_popescu he's doing the red hat thing [18:23]
punkman like if you hate namecheap, I could make a custom namecheap app to reduce the suffering [18:23]
pankkake ooh you're selling dev ok [18:24]
mike_c how good are you at DNS :) [18:25]
mircea_popescu lol [18:25]
TheNewDeal what's going on with gribble's nethash? [18:26]
mircea_popescu mike_c you should prolly pester dub. i'd love nothing more than to see him abjectly slaving away for a group of internet funbuxfans [18:26]
punkman mike_c, only incidental experience with DNS stuff [18:26]
kakobrekla [18:28]
assbot Q&A With Mt. Goxs Karpels: What Went Wrong? - Japan Real Time - WSJ [18:28]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: "The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. << lol [18:29]
artifexd [18:29]
assbot meaning - Where does the saying "made from scratch" originate? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange [18:29]
mthreat physical attacks... [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00081489 = 15.4829 BTC [+] [18:30]
mircea_popescu o hey boxing [18:31]
nubbins` kako, i read that earlier [18:31]
nubbins` so cringe [18:31]
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punkman that's a lot of quit: [18:32]
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mircea_popescu wtf that reddit link BingoBoingo posted... who the fuck designs those headers. [18:33]
ThickAsThieves probly theymos [18:33]
mircea_popescu cazalla: << wait im in the "community" nao ? [18:34]
assbot Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin [18:34]
mircea_popescu i thought they were over there. [18:34]
ThickAsThieves you cant escape the community [18:34]
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artifexd Just a reminder: []bot only reports bets over 1BTC in here. If you want to see them all, join ##bitbet-rt. [18:38]
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TheNewDeal there's no one in ##bitbet-rt [18:39]
TheNewDeal nvm [18:40]
artifexd Uh... [18:40]
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artifexd Oh [18:40]
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ThickAsThieves so horrible [18:43]
assbot Trade of the Day: Buy a Bitcoin - Bloomberg View [18:43]
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TheNewDeal agreed, that was horrid [18:49]
FabianB $traded [18:51]
empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY S.MPOE S.WOL X.EUR [18:51]
ThickAsThieves S.WOL is currently priceless [18:53]
ThickAsThieves such investment [18:53]
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TheNewDeal Science ! [18:54]
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chetty [18:57]
mircea_popescu $depth s.wol [18:57]
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mircea_popescu nuts, nobody selling ? [18:57]
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mircea_popescu much investors. [18:58]
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pankkake bagholders [19:00]
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rithm Rainbow Thor, wtf is that [19:01]
mircea_popescu whoa i just had an epiphany. someone linked the tlp blog just as i was reading davout's comment on rettardit and it struck me. [19:02]
mircea_popescu listen to this : "There are a few popular people that most of the community agree with, like Andreas Antonopoulos, but he is just a presenter, a tech-evangelist." [19:02]
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mircea_popescu this, read through tlp's eyes, says "we only accept those who have no power, merely the trappings of power" [19:03]
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mircea_popescu that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. [19:03]
mircea_popescu the perfect ideology, especially from the pov of the shepherd, for the use of domestic sheep. [19:03]
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nubbins` all hail the queen [19:04]
rithm badness and goodness are moral constructs [19:04]
mircea_popescu no fucking wonder faux feminism is all the rage. [19:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` heya. [19:04]
nubbins` hi [19:04]
chetty well its the way things are, we mostly never see the puppet masters, just the puppets [19:04]
mircea_popescu i wonder if lovecraft;'s intuition is correct, if the mere sight of chtulhu would drive one mad. [19:05]
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nubbins` the whole thing about angles that didn't make sense always made me feel funny [19:08]
mircea_popescu "If he is a left winger he will get a pass from the feminist community, maybe a slap on the wrist. If not then the mighty thunder of Rainbow Thor and his unicorn shaped hammer will hit him bad. Let's wait and see..." [19:08]
mircea_popescu pity it can't be a bitbet. [19:08]
mircea_popescu i don't think the feminist was born with the guts to engage me. [19:08]
pankkake source? [19:10]
mircea_popescu btctalk thread the reddt thing lnks to [19:11]
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chetty we should ban the word community, I am offended [19:13]
ThickAsThieves [19:15]
assbot Depeche Mode - I Feel You (HQ) - YouTube [19:15]
chetty well my butt is numb from sitting too long, does that count? [19:15]
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HeySteve <+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality [19:15]
mircea_popescu indeed. [19:16]
HeySteve I believe he was speaking about Christianity, but it applies equally well to the religion of equalism [19:17]
mircea_popescu the thing is, christianity is old. equalitarianism is young. [19:17]
kakobrekla xmj watch it, soon you wont be able to stop. [19:18]
nubbins` ;;google egalitarianism [19:18]
gribble Egalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Egalitarianism - Merriam-Webster Online: ; Egalitarian | Define Egalitarian at [19:18]
nubbins` you were both so close [19:18]
mircea_popescu as such, for a short time 19th-20th century christianity was forced out of shape for the needs of the equalitarian ideology of the time [19:18]
asciilifeform as i recall, he applied it as a general principle - christianity being an example of the clusterfuck that happens when 'the slaves win.' [19:18]
mircea_popescu now that religion is no longer useful pushing the cart of state, it's slowly getting back into its original shape [19:18]
HeySteve mircea_popescu sure, but I believe the roots of equalism are in Christian universalism [19:18]
mircea_popescu except thatr's unchristian. [19:18]
HeySteve everyone being equal before God, and such notions [19:18]
mircea_popescu it's episcopalian or w/e bullshit neoprotestant sect [19:18]
mircea_popescu that's christian in the sense the us is european [19:19]
HeySteve iow not any more :P [19:19]
BingoBoingo <+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality << You mispelled Hegel [19:19]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo and also kant. [19:19]
asciilifeform (christianity has a rather wide operating envelope - e.g. conquistador was permitted to behead untermenschen so long as they're baptized first, etc) [19:19]
mircea_popescu he misspelled anyone with a clue, what's he to do. [19:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform see ? [19:19]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, I'm wondering how far the chan could walk this back... [19:20]
mircea_popescu kyon. [19:20]
BingoBoingo Sucks that by jumping ahead to Kant we skipped Fichte [19:20]
mircea_popescu actually is that even meaningful [19:20]
mircea_popescu ;;google kyon [19:20]
gribble Kyon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; KYON Veterinary Surgical Products | Cruciate Repair, Total Hip ...: ; Kyon - Haruhi Wiki: [19:20]
mircea_popescu meh. [19:20]
mircea_popescu ;;google diogene of sinope [19:21]
gribble Diogenes of Sinope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Diogenes of Sinope [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]: ; Diogenes of Sinope - Wikiquote: [19:21]
BingoBoingo This prolly goes back to the Serpent's argument to Eve about the Apple. [19:22]
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HeySteve :D [19:22]
assbot Monty Python-Philosopher's Beer Drinking Song - YouTube [19:22]
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BingoBoingo %book [19:26]
atcbot 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160 [19:26]
pankkake "All backers still waiting on their rings to ship will have received an email from us yesterday." no I haven't!!! [19:27]
pankkake (nfc ring kickstarter) [19:28]
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nubbins` no, you WILL have [19:30]
nubbins` ;D [19:30]
kakobrekla >When Plato gave Socrates' definition of man as "featherless bipeds" and was much praised for the definition, Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it into Plato's Academy, saying, "Behold! I've brought you a man." After this incident, "with broad flat nails" was added to Plato's definition. [19:31]
kakobrekla dat trollage. [19:31]
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ThickAsThieves <+pankkake> (nfc ring kickstarter) /// i got mine last week [19:38]
thestringpuller ;;bc,stats [19:39]
gribble Current Blocks: 308135 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 312 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 22 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16657399281.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.73111 [19:39]
ThickAsThieves it arrives not assembled or something, so i havent bothered to sort it out yet [19:40]
BingoBoingo [19:41]
assbot 35 of my BTC gone. PC not compromised. : Bitcoin [19:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 643 @ 0.00081534 = 0.5243 BTC [-] [19:41]
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ThickAsThieves "This is exactly why we need Mycelium Entropy." [19:43]
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nubbins` btc robin hood to the rescue [19:43]
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BingoBoingo %t [19:54]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 2k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198 [19:54]
BingoBoingo %d [19:54]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 388489.39 in 1635 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.05 [19:54]
kakobrekla this is what Stanford gets you : [19:56]
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ThickAsThieves Awesome [19:57]
mircea_popescu dat trollage. << yup [19:57]
ThickAsThieves you shouldve asked them how much to print a bitcoin FUD article [19:58]
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kakobrekla feel free, the apps are still open [19:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla wtf first time lol [20:00]
mircea_popescu i got the same in 2012. [20:00]
nubbins` haha [20:01]
mircea_popescu back when sara wood was still a guy [20:01]
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nubbins` if you can't buy an ad it'll be hard for us to not call you a piece of shit in our rag [20:01]
mircea_popescu lol [20:01]
nubbins` "Sincerely, X, Major I completed two fuckin years ago" [20:02]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> back when sara wood was still a guy /// lolz [20:02]
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mircea_popescu wait that's a different wood [20:03]
nubbins` imagine being so creatively bankrupt and without skill that you have to put your university, major, and graduating year in your email sig [20:03]
kakobrekla so its first time _as a female_ [20:03]
kakobrekla thats kate wood rite [20:03]
nubbins` ^ that sounds familiar [20:03]
mircea_popescu craig/cringe wood [20:03]
kakobrekla nubbins` dont tell me you fucked him?! [20:04]
mircea_popescu lol [20:04]
nubbins` hey, it's all anus in the dark [20:04]
kakobrekla hehe [20:04]
mircea_popescu no its not [20:04]
mircea_popescu man anus feels different [20:04]
mircea_popescu oshit. [20:04]
nubbins` :0 [20:04]
kakobrekla lel [20:04]
nubbins` !b 6 [20:04]
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kakobrekla you need to put some padding on b [20:05]
ThickAsThieves manus [20:05]
kakobrekla !b 10 [20:05]
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ThickAsThieves someone should discover an exotic fruit and name it mananus [20:06]
mircea_popescu totally. [20:06]
mircea_popescu maybe we should run a campaign to rename ananas [20:06]
ThickAsThieves banalanus [20:06]
mircea_popescu this could be a decent mp sketch. [20:07]
mircea_popescu the florist shop where they only sell anus-renamed fruit [20:07]
mircea_popescu right across the street from the famous cheese shop [20:07]
penguirker New blog post: [20:07]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: misread sentence as 'maybe we should run a campaign to rename antennas. ThickAsThieves: balunus' [20:10]
mircea_popescu lol [20:10]
asciilifeform ;;ud balun [20:10]
gribble | trending. strikeout · wcw · bae · sapiosexual · mc 10:35 · swag · bougie · catfish · poopsterbate · surfboard. categories. gaming · sports · food · sex · tv · film ... [20:10]
asciilifeform fail [20:10]
nubbins` ;;ud sapiosexual [20:10]
gribble | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom  ... [20:10]
mircea_popescu you're too cuntercultural for urban dictionrary [20:10]
asciilifeform mycelium machine << it still isn't clear to me - are they actually sampling an sram, or just using atmel's turd which purports to do so internally [20:12]
asciilifeform (i investigated the sram method personally, was not satisfied with the results) [20:13]
mircea_popescu "Ratchet is If Ghetto and Hot Shitty Mess had a baby, and that baby had no father, and became a stripper, then made a sex tape with an athlete, then became a reality star!" [20:13]
mircea_popescu dude look at that, they just described pink [20:14]
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pankkake ;;ud TRP [20:14]
gribble | Tentacle Rape Porn. A form of Japanese erotica in which tentacled creatures ( octopuses, squids, etc.) have sex with people. "Dude, I saw some awesome TRP  ... [20:14]
pankkake "You posted another of his articles on a submission of mine, and I ignored it because I thought the article was terrible, un-self-aware TRP crap, but it wasn't worth replying to" I'm not sure this is it [20:16]
pankkake oh, "TRP reddit" gives me The Red Pill [20:17]
mircea_popescu whats trp ? [20:21]
mircea_popescu oic [20:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36850 @ 0.00081455 = 30.0162 BTC [+] [20:23]
benkay wannabe alphas teaching wannabe alphas to be wannabe alphas [20:28]
mircea_popescu ipo yet ? [20:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00081777 = 6.1333 BTC [+] [20:29]
benkay ipo's are pososphere feminist brainwashing man [20:32]
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mircea_popescu what's poso- ? [20:34]
mircea_popescu dude i learn more new words here than in #new-words [20:34]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: chetty think of it this way, do you believe that mp thinks women should literally be raped? I assume you'd answer No. In that case, what is he really trying to say? Or, at worst, what point can be extracted from the trolling. This is the nature of most mp rants and provocation. Each a test of your filters. << y u trolling me1 [20:35]
mircea_popescu pankkake: (I haven't read the article yet, I'm 3 behind…) << peed on the test yet ? [20:35]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ? [20:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.03757314 = 2.5174 BTC [-] {15} [20:36]
mircea_popescu pankkake "more than four times as much nodes" > as many. much works as a comparative for uncuntable items only. as much money, as much police. if the substance is discrete, more. more nodes, more tits. [20:38]
mircea_popescu bah. i mean, many nodes, many tits. [20:38]
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pankkake peed on what? [20:38]
mircea_popescu ;;google pregnancy test [20:39]
gribble When to Take Pregnancy Tests - WebMD: Home Tests, False ...: ; Early Results Pregnancy Test | FIRST RESPONSE™: ; Pregnancy test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [20:39]
pankkake good catch, I know the difference, but didn't reread myself [20:39]
pankkake oh, being behind, I get it [20:39]
mircea_popescu SSH into it, and run “apt-get install bitcoind”. Forget about it. << they need to run it too no ? [20:40]
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pankkake no, debian usually runs the daemon by default, but not all packages [20:44]
pankkake I haven't checked [20:44]
pankkake sometimes you need to edit /etc/conf.d/ [20:44]
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pankkake or is it /etc/defaults [20:45]
mircea_popescu right [20:45]
mircea_popescu just saying, about 1/3 or more of ppl doing what you say don't do anything at all [20:46]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: It hasn't been a good month for him, next should be worse << oddly, too. i kinda like the guy, but he's been acting erratically of late. [20:46]
BingoBoingo He's only lately started going off the deep end. I hope he didn't catch anything from tortilla [20:47]
ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ? /// I have an different appreciation for the human condition? A skepticism for anything leaning too far in any direction? I didnt end up in art, music, design and marketing and such by accident, my brain tries to tune to empathy for some reason. I don't always behave in kind, but it's probably [20:47]
ThickAsThieves my initial state of response. Also probably why I try to question things and myself in new ways. Also maybe why I'm vegan, etc. Or something else, fukt if i know. [20:47]
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mircea_popescu that's your response as to why you try not to touch people ?! [20:48]
ThickAsThieves touch? [20:48]
mircea_popescu well yes. as in "a touching remark" [20:49]
ThickAsThieves no, i meant i try not to assualt the individual as a means of communication [20:49]
ThickAsThieves verbally or otherwise [20:49]
chetty different people respond to different levels of touch [20:49]
mircea_popescu well... can't have one w/o the other can you. [20:49]
mircea_popescu but fundamentally, it'll have to be touch. [20:49]
ThickAsThieves maybe it's a point of finesse or just of preference [20:50]
ThickAsThieves i dont mine saying ideas that some might find offensive [20:50]
mircea_popescu maybe you're just used to talking to people who speak the same language. [20:50]
ThickAsThieves but i also wouldnt use rape as a metaphor [20:50]
ThickAsThieves mind* [20:50]
chetty the person that responds to a light touch may be further put off by brute force and the reverse [20:50]
mircea_popescu chetty how would you know apriori what's what ? [20:51]
mircea_popescu i mean, if you're racist, ie, strictly intend to live within your subgroup, then yea, just look up the official subgroup table. [20:51]
ThickAsThieves note, i never said MP should not write this way [20:51]
mircea_popescu but if you're not, you're stuck, there's no good translation. [20:51]
ThickAsThieves simply that i wouldnt [20:51]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i know, i know. [20:51]
ThickAsThieves i enjoy the challenge of reading your work [20:51]
ThickAsThieves whether i agree or not [20:52]
chetty And I was just sayin both have their place [20:52]
mircea_popescu so then we have no substantial disagreement on the table at all ? [20:52]
ThickAsThieves not really, i was mostly trying to interpret your being to chetty [20:52]
ThickAsThieves hold him, as it were [20:52]
ThickAsThieves :) [20:52]
mircea_popescu lol [20:52]
chetty her* [20:53]
ThickAsThieves aha! [20:53]
ThickAsThieves i wasnt sure [20:53]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << sadly, the website to do that wouldcost the usg more than the auction's worth [20:53]
mircea_popescu mike_c: TaT, you know this technical crap is snake oil, right? << but he likes it. [20:56]
mircea_popescu consider this : it's a scientific fact that you having sex does exactly 0 for your team. but what if you had sex during all the games, on the conviction that a good fuck will make your team win ? [20:56]
mircea_popescu wouldn't the win be pretty enjoyable then ? [20:56]
mircea_popescu in an economy of subjective utility, snake oil is economically relevant. [20:56]
rithm when does the auction happen again [20:58]
rithm next month? [20:58]
mike_c the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction. [20:58]
mike_c *effect [20:58]
mike_c whichever [20:58]
benkay go long, dca, forget trading. [20:58]
mike_c rithm: right now. [20:59]
benkay unless you're on someone else's book and getting paid for it. [20:59]
rithm oh [20:59]
rithm link? [20:59]
rithm anything to watch? [20:59]
mike_c nothing to watch. it's private. [20:59]
rithm snooze [20:59]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [21:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 588.41, Best ask: 589.51, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 588.41, 24 hour volume: 6799.05133464, 24 hour low: 566.25, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 581.060682823 [21:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 110.72909372 BTC to 77`492 shares, 142891 satoshi per share [21:00]
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mircea_popescu the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction. << precisely. producing overall a net gain. [21:01]
benkay ;;later tell princesnell mircea_popescu wants to know more about poso* [21:01]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:01]
benkay ask the anthropologist. [21:01]
mike_c well, that wasn't entirely accurate. i do know how the losses would affect my conviction. it would change it. [21:01]
mircea_popescu yours. [21:02]
mircea_popescu but you're not a subjective utilitatirst. maybe [21:02]
mircea_popescu maybe you don't even respond to placebo worth a crao [21:02]
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mike_c i'll start taking them and report back. [21:03]
mircea_popescu lol [21:03]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it << this is like re [21:04]
mircea_popescu ading calvin. [21:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12736 @ 0.00081685 = 10.4034 BTC [-] [21:06]
mircea_popescu "One of the central themes of the postmodern critique of our values is that aesthetics must trump truth as long as aesthetics remains undefined. That’s the semiotic conundrum, why psychiatry is politics: the truth is demanded only when it supports a preset ideology." [21:06]
mircea_popescu heh [21:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11114 @ 0.00081685 = 9.0785 BTC [-] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 7.63386216 BTC to 29`438 shares, 25932 satoshi per share [21:10]
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pankkake <= why didn't this make any noise? [21:12]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:12]
pankkake could be posted on girlsgonebitcoin too [21:13]
mircea_popescu pls do. [21:13]
mircea_popescu i was asking yest for it. i thought moiety posted it ? [21:13]
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mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: [21:16]
mircea_popescu << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja. [21:16]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:16]
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pankkake probably shouldn't do it with my current troll account, but i'll uptits it [21:17]
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pankkake btw, YOU have a reddit account [21:17]
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ThickAsThieves John Calvin? [21:20]
chetty [21:20]
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mircea_popescu i do ? [21:27]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yea [21:27]
ThickAsThieves all i know is from skimming the wiki [21:29]
mircea_popescu they had this p[redetermination doctrine. [21:30]
ThickAsThieves beieved destiny is predetermined, god knows all, incl future [21:30]
mircea_popescu ya [21:31]
ThickAsThieves so i'm aspiring to be godlike, big deal [21:31]
ThickAsThieves who isnt [21:31]
Mats_cd03 i aspire to godhood. [21:32]
mircea_popescu not exactly. more like you aspire to be godlike on the theory that the world's a sausage press. [21:33]
mircea_popescu that's kinda what the reformation was, the rebellion of sausage makers against all this bs latin learning. [21:33]
mircea_popescu citizen theory. [21:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02688262 = 0.5377 BTC [+] [21:35]
mircea_popescu It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself. [21:35]
mircea_popescu anyone wish to explain the joke to me ? [21:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1036 @ 0.00081712 = 0.8465 BTC [+] [21:36]
ThickAsThieves i think it's Princess Armadala [21:37]
ThickAsThieves both from Star Wars [21:37]
ThickAsThieves and Yars is an old atari game [21:37]
ThickAsThieves i think it says, for a nerd, this is totally awesome [21:37]
ThickAsThieves that, or totally impossible [21:38]
ThickAsThieves not sure [21:38]
mircea_popescu not yet a joke tho [21:39]
mircea_popescu i guess maybe he means "chuckle worthy reference" = joke [21:39]
ThickAsThieves absurd [21:39]
BingoBoingo Well, symptom of being American... [21:39]
ThickAsThieves maybe [21:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12948 @ 0.00081455 = 10.5468 BTC [-] [21:41]
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ThickAsThieves “BTCjam has been a great resource, connecting me with investors globally, and allowing me to expand my business in ways I hadn't even thought were possible. Thanks!” [21:43]
chetty It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself.//bad nerd attempt to make an inside joke [21:44]
benkay in america, the joke has been reduced to the reference [21:44]
benkay "how about them TSA lines?!?!?!?!" har har har [21:45]
benkay and audiences reduced to ovations over laughter [21:45]
benkay it's a travesty [21:45]
ThickAsThieves BTCJam has loaned out more than 23,000 BTC to people like you. Simple and Fast online application process. [21:45]
ThickAsThieves Great low rates - independent of your FICO score! [21:45]
ThickAsThieves Facebook ads from BTCJam [21:46]
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Namworld ... [21:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00081616 = 37.2169 BTC [+] {2} [21:48]
pankkake upboobage request [21:49]
assbot over 18? [21:49]
assbot over 18? [21:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19963 @ 0.00081874 = 16.3445 BTC [+] {2} [21:52]
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pankkake MP was right, Sara is likely not a girl [21:54]
assbot WARNING: The Bitcoin Journal is a fraud : Bitcoin [21:54]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla always spots the scammers [21:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00081455 = 6.7168 BTC [-] [21:57]
kakobrekla an hour ago [21:57]
kakobrekla ba beats reddit [21:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03671218 = 0.5507 BTC [-] {6} [21:58]
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mircea_popescu !up Menno [22:16]
-assbot- You voiced Menno for 30 minutes. [22:16]
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mircea_popescu !up diatonic [22:16]
-assbot- You voiced diatonic for 30 minutes. [22:16]
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mircea_popescu Facebook ads from BTCJam << i wonder if they fiat roi, those fb ads :D [22:16]
mircea_popescu pankkake danke [22:17]
mircea_popescu << sarah/kate/simon/craig woods further stock footage [22:19]
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pankkake you posted that one already [22:21]
benkay i've seen that like three times this week [22:21]
pankkake more dildopants please [22:21]
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benkay at least different ones [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00081902 = 9.0092 BTC [+] [22:22]
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mircea_popescu now you get to knowwhat marriage's like. [22:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03412 = 0.58 BTC [-] [22:29]
benkay what, no new panties? [22:32]
Mats_cd03 10btc buttcoin [22:32]
Mats_cd03 such privilege [22:32]
Mats_cd03 idk many people that would say no esp if they remained anon [22:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0340294 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {3} [22:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.03110569 = 1.3375 BTC [-] {8} [22:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03699758 = 1.6649 BTC [+] {2} [23:01]
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BingoBoingo %ob [23:19]
atcbot 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160 [23:19]
BingoBoingo %diff [23:19]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 385242.46 in 1620 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.69 [23:19]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [23:19]
gribble Current Blocks: 308160 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 287 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16651563644.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.68776 [23:19]
thestringpuller Sunday 5am EDT [23:20]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [23:23]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.01, Best ask: 587.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.43000, Last trade: 587.44, 24 hour volume: 6960.37322975, 24 hour low: 568.04, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 582.330245983 [23:23]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market USMS auction [23:24]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message) [23:24]
BingoBoingo ;;more [23:24]
gribble the code is a valid currency on your target market. Default currency is USD. [23:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22874 @ 0.00081647 = 18.6759 BTC [+] {2} [23:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03101 = 0.7753 BTC [-] [23:40]
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BingoBoingo ;;tslb [23:54]
gribble Time since last block: 1 minute and 35 seconds [23:54]
BingoBoingo %tslb [23:54]
atcbot 19 minutes and 26 seconds [23:54]
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