Forum logs for 27 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mod6 so like: a]: v3 b]: v3.1 c]: v3.14 ... ? [00:00]
mircea_popescu exactly. [00:00]
decimation of course one could just store the number of digits too [00:01]
mircea_popescu exactly. [00:01]
ben_vulpes this is getting out of hand. [00:01]
ben_vulpes stop messing with mod6's head [00:01]
decimation hehe [00:01]
ben_vulpes have the discussion sometime when we're not trying to do whatever we're trying to do this week, mk? [00:02]
ben_vulpes introduction of a new versioning system should not be an ad hoc thing. [00:02]
decimation re: ntp & bitcoind << actually, it would be possible to get ntp to 'listen' to bitcoind to keep track of time [00:02]
decimation http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver28.html < with the proper configuration, one can poke the current block timestamp (and the system clock time when the block came in off the wire) into an ntp shared memory interface [00:03]
assbot Object not found! ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1iXAX ) [00:03]
decimation ntp will use its own math to average & filter time [00:04]
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BingoBoingo Just have to remember that carelessly configured ntp accessible on the network is one of the DoS amplification venues we hate [00:05]
decimation no, in this case there would be no reason for ntp to be network accessible [00:05]
decimation it is only used to filter incoming timestamps & maintain the system clock [00:06]
[]bot Bet created: "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $30 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1112/ [00:07]
decimation lol [00:07]
BingoBoingo Ah cool [00:07]
BingoBoingo Just have to make sure the toy node ntp implementation actually holds to that. [00:08]
[]bot Bet placed: 7 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $1000 before March 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1101/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.30387905 BTC. Current weight: 56,085. [00:08]
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BingoBoingo Other serious engineering problems https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=oc9rYaX9en8&x-yt-cl=84503534 [00:12]
assbot I built my rabbit a cart and now he delivers me beer! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1l3k7 ) [00:12]
coderwill hi all [00:21]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> introduction of a new versioning system should not be an ad hoc thing. << or a thing at all. [00:25]
[]bot Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $30 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1112/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.599 BTC. Current weight: 99,976. [00:25]
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TheNewDeal wow that was a quick follow up [00:29]
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danielpbarron http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-30946748 [00:34]
assbot Rape threat found in Gateshead Travelodge room - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1y1q5x0 ) [00:34]
danielpbarron A woman who checked into a hotel room in Gateshead said she found the words "I'm going to rape you" on the TV screen. Travelodge said it believed someone may have used the TV manufacturer's code to change the settings. [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48715 @ 0.00050078 = 24.3955 BTC [-] {2} [00:34]
mircea_popescu hacking! [00:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00052854 = 8.6152 BTC [+] {2} [00:37]
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asciilifeform decimation: ntp shared memory interface << what have you been smoking ?!?! [00:43]
asciilifeform decimation: terrible idea. can hardly even picture how to make it worse. [00:44]
asciilifeform there is no reason to add linkages from bitcoind to kernel space. [00:44]
asciilifeform let it maintain own local time if must [00:44]
asciilifeform but as delta from system clock, in userland. [00:44]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there is no reason whatsoever to have ntp client -or- server on that box. question was whether to use functionality built into 'u-boot' to grab ntp time from [somewhere] once, on powerup. [00:45]
BingoBoingo Ah [00:45]
asciilifeform and what to do it not (or if this results in a wild number due to diddled box on other end) [00:45]
asciilifeform *if not [00:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ...see how many COUPONS you find. to "save" generally 5-10 bux << popular chumpatronic device in usa, but fading on accout of the demise of dead tree newspapers [00:48]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: modernized version of this sc4m4tr0n is 'services' where chump pays subscription (xx months Phr33333! l1mit3d t1m3!!!11) to get 'rewards' (coupons for things that he won't use / don't exist / end up costing even more than for others) [00:49]
asciilifeform sometimes this is even included as... an employment perk. at some megacorps. [00:50]
asciilifeform (it costs employer little or nothing, as the vendors the chumps are herded into using - usually pay.) [00:51]
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asciilifeform hanbot et al : what tinder's doing is removing the basic requirement of... << snore. i'm thoroughly unconvinced that anyone is having any sex that would not be being had otherwise without this proggy [00:53]
mircea_popescu myeah. groupon being an effort to make this into a BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY [00:54]
mircea_popescu the sort that could "buy everything in russia" [00:54]
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asciilifeform that it might more efficiently manage a queueing of women in the city for processing by local mircea_popescu - possibly [00:54]
mircea_popescu well that's the idea [00:54]
asciilifeform but it's being sold to civilians, and, more particularly, men, and that's rather like pitching captive bolt guns as a product to cattle [00:55]
asciilifeform 'be slaughtered by the latest in...' [00:55]
mircea_popescu i thought it was being mostly sold to gals. [00:56]
* asciilifeform has no idea, pontificating using anal rng [00:56]
decimation asciilifeform: 'kernel space' < do you mean the shared memory api? [01:04]
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TheNewDeal didn't realize it, but apparently it's possible to declare a snow emergency in the euniched states and make it illegal for anyone other than police and medical personell to use the streets [01:14]
decimation !up McNumpty [01:14]
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BingoBoingo That's a fucking tiny moon http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_upL2BKv--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qjkzwgw6gytdeocsxxod.gif [01:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15Fmr3Y ) [01:17]
decimation rare actual reporting in us media: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/08/comcast-donations-help-company-secure-support-of-time-warner-cable-merger/ < "Both the Democratic Governors Association and Pennsylvania State Mayors’ Association pointed to Comcast’s Internet Essentials program that provides $10-per-month Internet access to low-income families. Comcast agreed to create the program in order to secure approval of its 2011 [01:19]
decimation acquisition of NBCUniversal." [01:19]
assbot Comcast donations help company secure support for Time Warner Cable merger | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/15FmVqT ) [01:19]
asciilifeform decimation: there's no reason to actually set the system clock from bitcoind, on account of it being the only proggy on the box that needs absolute time. [01:22]
asciilifeform decimation: comcast... internet essentials... $10-per-month << obligatory >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 [01:23]
assbot Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” ... ( http://bit.ly/15FnWzm ) [01:23]
mats I'm disappointed that The Imitation Game didn't go with the murder theory [01:25]
mats but overall 8/10 [01:25]
decimation asciilifeform: doesn't bitcoind occasionally need wallclock time for its orphan & 'peak' algorithms? [01:27]
asciilifeform decimation: it - yes. but nothing else on the box. [01:27]
TheNewDeal damn ascii, that was in 2010? [01:28]
asciilifeform TheNewDeal: picture was drawn (not by me) even earlier. [01:29]
asciilifeform iirc circa '07, at the latest [01:29]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal how about that! i knew katrina was a floor not a top. [01:29]
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decimation asciilifeform: I suppose just setting the clock based on the timestamp of the last block seen on bootup isn't such a bad idea [01:30]
EPiSKiNG- woot [01:30]
asciilifeform decimation: not the actual (kernel) clock. bitcoind's local delta (which does not presently exist, but must be added in) [01:31]
decimation asciilifeform: how does bitcoind maintain a wallclock without the kernel's clock? [01:31]
asciilifeform decimation: easy. delta from system clock. [01:33]
decimation oh I see duh [01:33]
decimation yeah that's much simpler than gluing ntp centrifugal governor on top :) [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00053169 = 19.9118 BTC [+] {2} [01:36]
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TheNewDeal Mircea are you referring to the hurricane? [01:37]
decimation asciilifeform: re: $10-per-month-internet < yeah, except it's even more insideous - if you are the 'right kind of people', you get the deal, otherwise you get the full monopoly [01:38]
TheNewDeal Somehow that flew over my head, not sure if it was because I'm thinking floor(x), ceiling(x)? [01:38]
mircea_popescu hey there EPiSKiNG- [01:39]
EPiSKiNG- howdy [01:39]
EPiSKiNG- glad to be here [01:39]
EPiSKiNG- :) [01:39]
mircea_popescu hehe [01:39]
decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio [01:40]
assbot Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/15FsCVV ) [01:40]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal yes i am. [01:40]
mircea_popescu first time the bs "state owns the road" started afaik. [01:41]
BingoBoingo lol http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-woodcollector-and-other-stories/#comment-111747 [01:41]
assbot The strange case of the WoodCollector and other stories. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/15FsMwo ) [01:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform usg still working on hardforking the internet, huh ? [01:42]
mircea_popescu in other news, npt : http://33.media.tumblr.com/da4bd26592ced78f77038d8abe0e627b/tumblr_mom5a2IkFe1ra163eo4_250.gif [01:42]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15Ftaem ) [01:42]
mircea_popescu http://33.media.tumblr.com/ac5cee9e293a95664a2b15f083ad7f8f/tumblr_mom5a2IkFe1ra163eo3_r1_500.gif [01:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15FteuE ) [01:43]
asciilifeform ^ lol!! [01:43]
mod6 haha [01:44]
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asciilifeform usg still working on hardforking the internet << it can't ever stop, until dies. burned into its bios, or sumthinglikethat [01:47]
decimation note that usg accomplishes bifurcating the internet without actually writing down any law [01:49]
decimation 'they will do it if they know what's good for them' [01:49]
asciilifeform much of the daily contact between usg and subjects has not the remotest thing to do with laws [01:50]
asciilifeform microshit, for instance, is in every way - other than law - a ministry of usg [01:50]
asciilifeform likewise the credit bureaus [01:50]
asciilifeform and a hundred other organizations. [01:50]
asciilifeform most, nominally 'private' [01:50]
decimation they all exist under the heading of some usg fiat or another, mostly from fdr days [01:51]
asciilifeform a somewhat arbitrary example - lexis nexis. [01:52]
asciilifeform try practicing law (or even doing any serious legal/political scholarship) in usa without it. [01:53]
decimation asciilifeform: not only that, lexis nexis (and like entities) even 'own' most legal codes in the us [01:54]
decimation your local city or state pays them to publish [01:54]
asciilifeform aha. [01:54]
asciilifeform hence example. [01:54]
mod6 We regret to inform you that your republic has termites. [01:55]
BingoBoingo afaik Westlaw/Lexis actually hire minions to go to the courthouses to pickup and scan paper records [01:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform re the "private", chris ballas had an excellent piece. [01:57]
mircea_popescu "yes, it means you don't get a pension". [01:57]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, that one. [01:58]
asciilifeform he was speaking of the ants, rather than the elephants, however. [01:58]
mircea_popescu mod6 has it eh. [01:58]
mircea_popescu but meanwhile, everyone's over at burning man http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_logy0eAolo1qc2yxpo1_500.jpg [01:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15FxiuI ) [01:58]
decimation I was talking with a guy who was in korea in the early 90's. at that time, you could easily find someone to custom tailor your entire wardrobe for a low $$ price. he recently returned there and found no one bothers with that anymore [01:59]
decimation similarly, usg civil servants don't find much reason to bother with actual work, when coolies will do - often for free [02:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That's not burning man, that is clearly the middle west. [02:00]
mircea_popescu same thing. [02:01]
mircea_popescu "The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying this is a good thing, or a desirable thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist at an inner city clinic, you may think you're an independent contractor, but you're really working for T [02:06]
mircea_popescu he Man (but with no pension.) That's the system. Cut SSI payments and those docs-- and nurses and etc-- don't get paid." [02:06]
mircea_popescu there we go. [02:06]
asciilifeform yes, that one. [02:06]
mircea_popescu you know he deleted the original ? [02:06]
asciilifeform wait srsly ? [02:06]
* asciilifeform read it years ago [02:06]
mircea_popescu afaik http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/tlp.html only surviving copy. [02:06]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Terrible, Awful Truth About Supplemental Security Income ... ( http://bit.ly/15FzqTx ) [02:06]
TheNewDeal bingo are you saying middle west because of the woman's size, or the foliage? [02:06]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal i agreed because of the item collection. [02:07]
trinque could be louisiana... could be florida... [02:08]
trinque it's not as though they confine those things to a single state [02:08]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: foilage, trashiness of the dudes, vehicles, and woman's size. [02:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: he ever say, why deleted ? [02:08]
mircea_popescu some unspecified drama, but now. [02:09]
mircea_popescu no* [02:09]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/36d94cf3f168d88c055c81ec4a049b7b/tumblr_mnq8fhzIZ41s9ip0zo1_500.jpg << where is this one then ? [02:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXiT9q ) [02:09]
TheNewDeal this article is golden [02:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not sure, but seems more civilized. [02:11]
BingoBoingo Important things clearly labeled there [02:11]
decimation m. danton's sans-culottes didn't need laws or instructions to know who their enemies were and what to do [02:11]
mats http://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca4/08-6324 << a brief amusement. someone with the surname Merica gave their son a middle name beginning with A. [02:12]
assbot US v. Rickey Merica :: Justia Dockets & Filings ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXj8By ) [02:12]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal most of what the man ever writes is golden. and unlike derps like moldbug or orlov, he a) isn't putting annoyingly self-advertising and b) doesn't actually have a pro-state agenda [02:12]
mircea_popescu decimation on one hand yes they did, on the other hand they fucked it all up. [02:13]
TheNewDeal Is this the same programmer guy who had psychiatric problems? [02:13]
mats i was under the impression most here believed the fracture of the Internet as it is now is inevitable [02:14]
mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/07/the_terrible_awful_truth_about_3.html << also pretty good. [02:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: mr mold started with a very different kind of 'state agenda' (poorly articulated desire to... resurrect the stuart kings) and ended with... andreesen horowitz [02:14]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Terrible, Awful Truth About The Debt Ceiling ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXjnwc ) [02:14]
mircea_popescu no, he's a clinician afaik [02:14]
TheNewDeal I remember someone giving a blog before that was almost always on psychiatric issues [02:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the stuarts of all people ?! [02:14]
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TheNewDeal I even remember some of the memorabilia on his website that had some catchy pschiatric puns on them [02:15]
asciilifeform afaik it was an example. he wanted to somehow bring the pre-ww1 dynasties back. [02:15]
asciilifeform cargo cult. [02:15]
asciilifeform but at least started with vaguely correct cargo. [02:15]
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TheNewDeal BingoBoingo do you have any clue what blog I'm talking about? You may have referenced him before [02:15]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: Not at the moment. Maybe you can be more specific. [02:16]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fact is, mr mold was not always a whore; iirc, he did run out of money, and descended into whoring from lack of a plan [02:17]
TheNewDeal The guy had some of the most advanced discussions on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics that i'd seen before on a blog [02:17]
asciilifeform quite likely somebody conveniently 'happened' to be near, to ease him onto the cock [02:17]
BingoBoingo Cake http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_yIi1q34--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18unn3fork504jpg.jpg [02:18]
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mircea_popescu well i only paid attention for a shoirt time and late on [02:18]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 90+% of the 'good' mold is from '07-'10 [02:18]
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BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: this post look familiar? http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html [02:19]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Most Important Article On Psychiatry You Will Ever Read ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXk34Z ) [02:19]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: With the rum fountain? [02:19]
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asciilifeform mr mold's audience is not mircea_popescu but rather an intelligent student from somewhere in usa with some curiosity about 20th century but no knowledge of euro languages and only a faint idea of civilization [02:20]
mircea_popescu i am deeply suspicious of segmented audiences. [02:20]
decimation because it's quite possible to graduate from high school in the us without actually learning anything about civilization or languages [02:20]
asciilifeform inevitably, this is an unappetizing product if you aren't the target. like a chinese motorcycle, belching black devil smoke as it goes at 20k/hr [02:20]
asciilifeform if your last car was an ox - great. [02:21]
mircea_popescu "So it is inevitable that a deal will be struck by August 2, because that deal doesn't actually mean anything. This a is husband and wife arguing about rebalancing the household budget, each pretending they aren't going to pay the electric until he's agreed to cut back on beer and she's agreed not to be such a bitch. Whether they do it or not is irrelevant, the electric's still getting paid. The electric always gets [02:21]
mircea_popescu paid, it has to, we need it for the chairs." [02:21]
mircea_popescu win. [02:21]
TheNewDeal hmm it's not looking entirely familiar but I'm going to have to page through it. [02:21]
asciilifeform steve dutch had an almost identical explanation of same [02:22]
asciilifeform it's reasonably common knowledge in usa [02:22]
mircea_popescu reading that whole site's never been a bad use of anyone's time [02:22]
asciilifeform (the basic mechanics) [02:22]
mircea_popescu cheaper than trilema, too [02:22]
* asciilifeform read [02:22]
decimation I remember when moldbug put up his first 'begging' post - it was obvious the gig was up [02:22]
* asciilifeform got into reading tlp when was on the wild ragged outskirts of pharma racket [02:23]
asciilifeform (usg lab) [02:23]
asciilifeform decimation: he said what i believe was the truth in that post - ran out of money, given as his winnings from 'dotcom' idiocy were not enough to live an entire life as a cultured man, but only about a decade [02:24]
asciilifeform 'even with plenty of fairly successful precious metal speculation' were, iirc, his words [02:24]
asciilifeform i'm not in a position to say what he ought to have done instead of, well, what he did. [02:25]
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mircea_popescu most of the women i pick up manage to live their lives and pay their rents without any dotcom gifts or "speculation". [02:26]
asciilifeform they aren't trying to live as cultured man. [02:26]
mircea_popescu whatever that means. [02:26]
asciilifeform mr mold's example was, if i recall, his '300/mo. book bill' [02:26]
mircea_popescu this entire discussion is about 50k worth of wood pulp ?! [02:27]
asciilifeform ask him how he blew his load [02:27]
asciilifeform i have only a faint clue [02:28]
asciilifeform for example, we know that he decided to have not one but even two childre [02:28]
asciilifeform n [02:28]
asciilifeform while 'running out of money' [02:28]
decimation well, buying real estate near san francisco was probably his first mistake [02:28]
mircea_popescu i thought we were discussing an abstract model of "the cultured man" [02:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i doubt the man decided anything in there. [02:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: he presumably picked wife, rather than being issued one [02:29]
asciilifeform as in the army joke [02:29]
mircea_popescu odds are, woman decided to have children, his choice was whether to pay a lawyer AND the woman orjust the woman. [02:29]
mircea_popescu i know very few us men that pick wife. [02:29]
asciilifeform 'sapper errs twice, once when choosing profession' [02:29]
TheNewDeal BingoBoingo this definitely is one of the article I was reading > I remember seeing the receptors lined up as a fountain [02:29]
mircea_popescu generally, the sort of overgrown boy that doesn't shoot his own horse is in no position to pick anything. woman picks like at the fair. [02:29]
BingoBoingo The Rum fountain. No author appears to be a forensic pyschiatrist as he self describes. [02:30]
asciilifeform back to 'cultured man' - i'd say that living 'life of the mind' in usa is not cheap. regardless of what kind of hero you might be. a dwelling without random bozos sharing it, for instance, is $xxxx/mo. [02:30]
asciilifeform anywhere, afaik, in usa, but the wildest wolf forest or the meanest urban ash heap [02:31]
mircea_popescu by the way : is the vc circus of the belief that the well proven, on the courthouse record, role of one of the "big four" accounting companies in asset inflation and bubble pumping has been forgotten ? [02:31]
mircea_popescu rethorical question, not for they present, but for the absent if avid readers. [02:31]
asciilifeform arthur anderson ? [02:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform in ohio ? $300. [02:31]
asciilifeform ohio - wolf [02:32]
mircea_popescu ;;google Arthur Anderson enron accounting scandal [02:32]
decimation lol even in ohio a place near civilization is around $1000 [02:32]
gribble Arthur Andersen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Enron scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Arthur Anderson Auditors and Enron: What happened to their Texas ...: [02:32]
mircea_popescu decimation civilisation comes out of a utp cable. [02:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: everybody remembers arthur anderson [02:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if only! [02:32]
decimation utp - cannot eat [02:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm paying 'book bill' that isn't that much lower than mr mold [02:32]
asciilifeform library subscription, even (they are as we speak sc4mz0r1ing nickel&dime by pretending a certain volume was not returned. mega-lol) [02:33]
asciilifeform not everything is on the net. this is a fact. [02:33]
decimation asciilifeform: you can go down to the library of congress physically [02:33]
asciilifeform in certain professions one does not have the luxury of arbitrarily proclaiming 'if not on the net, doesn't exist' [02:34]
asciilifeform decimation: time is money [02:34]
asciilifeform sitting in loc with spy camera - laborious. [02:34]
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BingoBoingo LoC does not lend [02:34]
asciilifeform aha. [02:34]
asciilifeform see above. [02:35]
decimation heh do they even allow cameras? or do you have to be sneaky? [02:35]
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asciilifeform officially, most academic libraries in usa forbid private cameras. [02:35]
asciilifeform i've never heard of anyone being thrown out for having one as of yet. [02:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform cultured right ? [02:36]
asciilifeform esp. in the age of the Pnohe [02:36]
* asciilifeform tries for cultured [02:36]
mircea_popescu well look. this is like playing patanque in a boat. [02:36]
mircea_popescu so, if "cultured man" is some sort of scholarly gentleman, then one needs some rather commonly available books. [02:37]
asciilifeform neh i ought to have been more specific. [02:37]
asciilifeform what i meant was, someone whose primary avocation is thinking. and yes, it is possible to do this in a forest, in log cabin, like unabomber. [02:37]
asciilifeform but not typical. [02:37]
BingoBoingo http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/01/27/0125221/davos-2015-less-innovation-more-regulation-more-unrest-run-away [02:38]
assbot Davos 2015: Less Innovation, More Regulation, More Unrest. Run Away! - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXmpkj ) [02:38]
asciilifeform at any rate, it isn't about the bookz. [02:39]
asciilifeform price other, more mundane things, in usa. like 'have 100+ m^2 dwelling to yourself, with climate control, one that isn't falling apart' [02:40]
asciilifeform 'eat non-recycled food' [02:40]
asciilifeform 'sleep ad libitum' [02:40]
* asciilifeform can't even afford ^ yet [02:40]
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asciilifeform 'sleep ad libitum' costs ~100kusd+ of specifically -non-wage- income, for example. [02:41]
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decimation asciilifeform: for 'passive investments' available to the public, that implies a net worth of > $3 mil [02:46]
asciilifeform at least. [02:46]
asciilifeform add a zero if you want complete isolation from economic reality [02:46]
asciilifeform add two zeros if going for total isolation including expatriation on a day's notice [02:46]
decimation of course, in an account that isn't locked away by some deal with usg re: taxes [02:46]
mats BingoBoingo: at a later date, i'd like some assistance with reviewing and rating materials from the courts-circus project. would you be interested? [02:46]
asciilifeform goes without saying when said 'income' [02:47]
asciilifeform chump money that you 'have' somewhere - is not income. [02:47]
BingoBoingo mats: Maybe. Still experiencing brainrot for IRL reddit this weekend so am hesitant to make commitments atm. [02:47]
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asciilifeform http://www.irky.org/home/pogoplug_jtag << jtag pinouts for 'pogo'. he has a v2 (not 4) but pinout is same. [02:48]
assbot pogoplug_jtag - Irky ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXnHM8 ) [02:48]
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decimation asciilifeform: does it have a header already installed (v4)? [02:50]
BingoBoingo mats: I'll probably be amenable to assisting though. [02:50]
asciilifeform decimation: nope. [02:50]
asciilifeform decimation: it isn't standard (2.54mm) pitch, either. [02:50]
asciilifeform just solder on naked wires with pinsockets on other end and be done with it. [02:51]
* asciilifeform did [02:51]
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mircea_popescu but not typical. << so much bs. looky here : henry miller did just fine, bumming bowls of soup. [02:51]
asciilifeform yes, diogenes did fine in barrel. [02:51]
asciilifeform to demand that every thinker be diogenes ?! [02:51]
mircea_popescu because back then the average american understood himself as a peniless tramp, that's fortunate to even be allowed in europe at all. [02:51]
mircea_popescu seems a lot more productive. the exiled russian thinkers did pretty good in ny. a lot better, at any rate, than the nysu "professors" [02:52]
asciilifeform heaviside, for instance, couldn't really think without standing next to a monstrous roaring gas flame (he actually had to smash a pipe) [02:52]
mircea_popescu aha. [02:52]
asciilifeform ask him to go in barrel, sure. [02:52]
asciilifeform ask j.c.maxwell to give up his horse and hunting ground. [02:53]
mats BingoBoingo: ok. [02:53]
asciilifeform still equations? maybe yes. maybe no. [02:53]
ben_vulpes https://github.com/mame/quine-relay [02:53]
asciilifeform ask lord kelvin to work for a living, while at it. [02:53]
assbot mame/quine-relay · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXoht9 ) [02:53]
mircea_popescu so the problem here is thjat some peniless tramp gave himself a lordship that he then couldn't finance ? [02:53]
mircea_popescu seems rather the opposite of either cultured or man. [02:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: think of it this way. space probe has radiotherm battery. [02:54]
asciilifeform it's good for ~30 years. after that - brick. [02:54]
asciilifeform 'it gave itself a lordship it couldn't finance' ? [02:54]
mircea_popescu quite. [02:55]
asciilifeform if i could live like, e.g., taleb, for 20 years, with the understanding of being impaled after - i would. i don't particularly need being fifty for anything. [02:55]
mircea_popescu mats: its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for blockchain.info << you are thinking money as in, someone earned / saved these. that's not what's happening there : they're spending money that was simply created by yellen / conjured up by accounting fraud / etc. [02:55]
mircea_popescu these two are incomparable. [02:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that is where we differ. i would live like no man, and i would impale anyone trying. [02:56]
decimation ben_vulpes: lol [02:56]
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asciilifeform 'like taleb' ~~= 'sleep ad libitum' [02:56]
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asciilifeform used him as example because folks here all (?) read him and mr t expounds at great length re: 'what it means to really live' [02:57]
mircea_popescu yeah but the problem is still exposed : to live like one pleases specifically can not carry a rider of time limited. [02:58]
mircea_popescu it breaks the entire construction. [02:58]
asciilifeform we all get time-limited, lol [02:58]
asciilifeform just not as neatly. [02:58]
asciilifeform who did first rate maths after 50? erdos? can't think of more than one or two names [02:59]
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mircea_popescu http://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-network/2015/jan/23/nervous-super-rich-planning-escapes-davos-2015 << not so bad. [02:59]
assbot As inequality soars, the nervous super rich are already planning their escapes | Public Leaders Network | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXp5OL ) [02:59]
decimation oil is a terrible store of value - it halved in only a few weeks! it's a good idea though, I'm going to wait for the next generation of chemical energy movement & storage [02:59]
asciilifeform 'buying airstrips and farms in remote areas' - what, farming with their own hands!? lol [03:00]
decimation re: lifetime < 'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: [03:00]
decimation Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' [03:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform the whole piece is a neat summary of just how idiotic the demo is. [03:01]
mircea_popescu really, look, rich people are affraid of reddit!111 [03:01]
mircea_popescu occupy mattered!!11 [03:01]
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decimation except the rich jew who owns it? [03:01]
mircea_popescu shut up and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. [03:01]
asciilifeform article << mega-snore [03:02]
asciilifeform 3qu4l1ty! [03:02]
mircea_popescu no it's informatively stupid. [03:02]
decimation well, there was a time for getting out of Paris [03:02]
mircea_popescu like a discussion among 12 yo boys about what makes women sluts. [03:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my understanding is that most folks in usa get mental picture of 'what the rich do' from film [03:03]
asciilifeform just like to them 'economics is what happens at the grocery counter' (from mircea_popescu article ?) [03:05]
decimation asciilifeform: do you think that 'actual rich' don't get ideas from film too? [03:05]
asciilifeform 'the actual rich' as a monolithic whole is, i dare say, a fictional trope as well [03:05]
decimation http://www.denverpost.com/ci_21351638/billionaire-bill-koch-colorado-town-private [03:07]
assbot Billionaire Bill Koch's new Colorado town is a private Old West marvel - The Denver Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXq7Ky ) [03:07]
asciilifeform anything i, for instance, might say about the genuinely rich (folks entirely and permanently insulated from economic reality, who can finance wars, etc.) is likely to be laughably wrong - what i know of them is largely like what i know of the wonderful fish that live kilometres below in the sea - that is, stemming largely from inference using physical fact and thirdhand clues [03:08]
asciilifeform decimation: what is he supposed to do? he already bought 'sleep ad libitum' [03:10]
decimation heh yeah might as well buy personal town for his toys [03:11]
decimation actually compared to 'rich men' of the past, folks with mere $ billions are rather poor [03:12]
asciilifeform perhaps after usg implodes he can buy some people to fill it with [03:12]
asciilifeform living by period rules [03:12]
decimation j.p. morgan singlehandly bailed out banking ca. 1907 [03:13]
asciilifeform decimation: aha. quite a few of them, for instance, probably have difficulty even buying sex safely [03:13]
asciilifeform 'progressives' like to trot out examples of 'the people of the past could not buy an ipNohe for any price' [03:14]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2015#979012 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2015#979013 [03:14]
assbot Logged on 16-01-2015 04:45:19; mircea_popescu: decimation it's as fucking unbriliant as a lump of coal. at the end of the week, instead of having a decent steak and a game of bridge with intellgient people, [03:14]
assbot Logged on 16-01-2015 04:45:31; mircea_popescu: you're stuck hiding in your gated compound from imaginary niggers. [03:14]
asciilifeform the say 'richest king could not buy a plasma tv' [03:14]
asciilifeform to which i answer, today's richest king cannot buy quite a few things that common beggar had a century ago. [03:14]
asciilifeform like a functioning culture [03:15]
asciilifeform or rather, gemeinschaft [03:15]
decimation right. w.r.t. stuff, we are 'rich', but w.r.t. people, we are all poor [03:15]
asciilifeform (more specifically) [03:15]
decimation even if herr koch wanted to create a 'functional german hamlet' from ukraine, (for instance), how could he possibly do it without making it like disneyland? [03:18]
asciilifeform the only kind of animal in a disneyland is - stuffed. [03:19]
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asciilifeform i do not know enough about koch to say whether he is likely to become a post-usg sovereign who might conceivably carry out experiments with artificial fucktopias [03:20]
asciilifeform possibly it'll be his driver, who will cut off his head and display it on a pike to a cheering crowd, and not him [03:20]
decimation I suspect 'rich in bezzlars' will not convey post-usg sovereignty [03:21]
asciilifeform not automatically, no [03:21]
decimation 'rich in oil' maybe [03:21]
asciilifeform rich in difficult-throats-cut-on-demand. [03:22]
asciilifeform everything else - from it. [03:22]
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decimation aye, m. danton-style. the trouble is, there's always herr guillotine waiting for yezhov [03:24]
decimation good night sir [03:24]
decimation !down decimation [03:24]
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mircea_popescu 'the actual rich' as a monolithic whole is, i dare say, a fictional trope as well << what, and i suppose the island of beautiful women doens't exist, either ?! [03:37]
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mircea_popescu decimation> j.p. morgan singlehandly bailed out banking ca. 1907 << nah, it was more like teh mp effect. [03:39]
mircea_popescu generaly confidence crises can be unwound by a party universally trusted that's techniocally competent [03:39]
mircea_popescu that's kinda how the notion of the central banker was born. it does make economic / financial sense. [03:39]
mircea_popescu however, not in the current bastardization [03:39]
mircea_popescu (the college professor also makes intellectual sense, but the current day implementation has nothing to do with the thing that makes sense - "why is he a professor ? " "because all these people know him, respect him and wish to be his studends" vs "why are you his student ?" "because hes the professor" [03:40]
mircea_popescu 'progressives' like to trot out examples of 'the people of the past could not buy an ipNohe for any price' << except current folk can not get stuff like... tomatoes, for any price. [03:41]
mircea_popescu or, in most cases, a competent cunt. [03:41]
mircea_popescu i do not know enough about koch to say < i do. he's old. this is a game for men, not for codgers. [03:42]
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punkman http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_CUBA_SECRET_NETWORK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT [04:48]
assbot News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1y2dgmg ) [04:48]
punkman "blocked from the network by their peers for as a little as a day for minor infractions such as slowing down SNet with file-sharing outside prescribed hours, with lifetime bans for violations like distributing pornography." [04:49]
punkman no porn lol [04:49]
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mircea_popescu "We don't mess with anybody. All we want to do is play games, share healthy ideas. We don't try to influence the government or what's happening in Cuba ... We do the right thing and they let us keep at it." [04:53]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:53]
mircea_popescu speaking of the derps behind the derpage : "Sara Miller McCune was born into a middle-class Jewish family in Manhattan. She was international president of B'nai B'rith Girls at the age of 19, and has spoken of the importance of tzedakah." [04:57]
mircea_popescu check out what's notable on wikipedia :D [04:57]
mircea_popescu anyway, if you want to hang someone for the horrible state of publishing and/or us business culture these days, she's as good as anyone. [04:58]
fluffypony have we discussed the Croatian president yet? [04:58]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/M18fd7W.jpg [04:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18nyvc7 ) [04:58]
fluffypony Greece could learn from that [04:58]
mircea_popescu sort-of an social sciences o'reilly. [04:59]
mircea_popescu o wow srsly ? [04:59]
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fluffypony yarp [04:59]
punkman http://www.zarpa.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/palto-photo-mesa.jpg [04:59]
mircea_popescu uh. Ivo Josipović [04:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18nyJzW ) [04:59]
mircea_popescu whay u scam me! [04:59]
fluffypony Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic [05:00]
mircea_popescu o wow, right you are. yeap [05:00]
fluffypony beat Ivo [05:00]
mircea_popescu next month [05:00]
mircea_popescu ;;google Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović nude [05:00]
gribble Borba za Sinčićeve birače: Što nude Josipović i Kolinda? — RTL ...: ; Video: Borba za Sinčićeve birače: Što nude Josipović i Kolinda ...: ; Što Ivo (1 more message) [05:00]
fluffypony lol [05:00]
mircea_popescu and on that note... i'm off. [05:02]
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BingoBoingo the only kind of animal in a disneyland is - stuffed. << Plenty of cats to eat the mice and rats. [12:28]
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davout https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2015-0235 [12:41]
assbot Bug 1183461 – CVE-2015-0235 glibc: __nss_hostname_digits_dots() heap-based buffer overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1z6fvHR ) [12:41]
davout dat CVE [12:41]
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mircea_popescu davout wow. [12:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4846 @ 0.00111799 = 5.4178 BTC [-] {3} [13:00]
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mircea_popescu veronique Loquet - AL'X Communication vloquet at alx-communication.com << she found it. [13:03]
mircea_popescu nah scratch that, she's just pr. [13:04]
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mircea_popescu https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-0235 << eglibc too lol. [13:18]
assbot CVE-2015-0235 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk2qci ) [13:18]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/01/rumor-centurylink-may-buy-cointerra/ [13:22]
assbot Rumor: CenturyLink May Buy CoinTerra | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1yLhDFZ ) [13:22]
TomServo Ha, wouldn't that be something. [13:22]
mircea_popescu ;;isup sourceware.org [13:23]
gribble sourceware.org is down [13:23]
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asciilifeform https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5dd6189d506068ed11c8bfa1e1e9bffde04decd;hp=fef94eab0bd308d5059a2588c753bf9a4926845d << works [13:35]
assbot sourceware.org Git - glibc.git/commitdiff ... ( http://bit.ly/1yLj1sr ) [13:35]
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mircea_popescu dude... women in tech, what a scam! [18:22]
mircea_popescu so i find that veronique chick as the first source of the ghost vulnerability, im all about to go into a rand as to how see, THIS is the sort of actual women in actual tech [18:23]
mircea_popescu except it turns out that she's just doing pr, and wasn't actually involved in the tech [18:23]
mircea_popescu except it turns out she actually fucked up the embargo, and the coordinated release became uncoordinated half hour after her stupid foot in her dumber mouth. [18:23]
asciilifeform l0l!! [18:24]
mircea_popescu i feel vile and like my feelings don't matter. [18:24]
mircea_popescu fucking rapist. [18:24]
asciilifeform when monkey presses wrong button, who is to blame: monkey, or man, who put monkey in the control loop ? [18:25]
mircea_popescu as more an' more cases of idiot women "in tech" blowing things up float to the surface like as many turds, the actual women in actual tech have increasingly more problems they don't actually need. [18:25]
mircea_popescu so dear stupid women : the best thing you can do for women in tech is STAYING THE FUCK AWAY FROM IT. [18:25]
mircea_popescu let the smart ones find their own way in, and if there's a grand total of three of them worldwide that'll be fine. [18:26]
mircea_popescu just as long as no more veroniques [18:26]
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mircea_popescu but in other news, i've had actual sysadmins thank me for the tip. made my fucking day. danke davout :D [18:30]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/5c48c28c45c3fa9bdebdfce668b4e930/tumblr_moputmctrN1svo8pno1_1280.jpg << by way of bonus. [18:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzxG4m ) [18:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it took about an hour to 'everybody knows' [18:31]
mircea_popescu i got inside that hour. [18:31]
mircea_popescu assbot: Bitcoin and the dangerous fantasy of ‘apolitical’ money <<< title has a point. there is no such thing as "apolitical" money. bitcoin is quite very political. [18:33]
asciilifeform http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q1/279 [18:34]
assbot oss-sec: Re: GHOST gethostbyname() heap overflow in glibc (CVE-2015-0235) ... ( http://bit.ly/18qONRD ) [18:34]
asciilifeform jurov: ...regin... << recycled news. from slides from 2 weeks ago; and the material therein does not contain proof of what is contained in the linked article at all... [18:35]
asciilifeform jurov: the uuencoded blob contained a fairly unremarkable keylogger (meant as a module within one of the gigantic modular mega-turds usg is fond of.) [18:36]
mircea_popescu "During a conference call with reporters Monday, Fed staffers were asked why the paper made no mention of Bitcoin. They responded by saying that they plan to monitor developments with digital currency, and that later, as those technologies mature, regulators will possibly have a different strategy." [18:37]
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mircea_popescu soo... their inept influence agents got murdered by a guy we won't name, and so we won't name the thing they were try9ing to influence either ? [18:37]
mircea_popescu yo yellen! at least gavin has the ballsack to carefully come here when i'm not around, you know ? [18:37]
mircea_popescu grow a pair. [18:37]
mircea_popescu "Without a CEO in charge of the currency or anyone to subpoena, how do you control the bitcoin economy? The law is designed to deal with centralized institutions in which identifiable managers are deemed responsible for an organization's conduct." [18:38]
mircea_popescu derp. [18:38]
mircea_popescu thje law is designed to go take a hike. [18:38]
BingoBoingo derp. << /me is working on this with regard to the Derpoplis who went from maximizing arcade revenue to becoming "finance minister" [18:39]
mircea_popescu cheers. [18:39]
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danielpbarron https://imgur.com/f4qpBqU [18:43]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzyoyC ) [18:43]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron sounds about right [18:45]
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mats http://youtu.be/46bIJJX_xzE [18:49]
assbot Death Cab for Cutie - "Black Sun" (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzyHJJ ) [18:49]
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mats http://aje.io/r4z9 [18:52]
assbot Philippine rebels blame government for deadly clash - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzyQgk ) [18:52]
mats i never felt so depressed as when i did 'missionary work' as a young man in Quezon City [18:53]
trinque danielpbarron: incredible.. [18:53]
mats the second checkpoint i hit after leaving Manila, the church van i was in got shaken down by cops for cash [18:54]
mircea_popescu o.O [18:54]
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asciilifeform https://gist.githubusercontent.com/koelling/ef9b2b9d0be6d6dbab63/raw/de1730049198c64eaf8f8ab015a3c8b23b63fd34/gistfile1.c [18:58]
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mats two kids i played ball with and taught spanish to died when a few shacks collapsed [18:58]
mats people shitting and pissing in chamberpots and what not, emptying the contents into the streets... [18:59]
mats hell on earth, and there i was, doing religious tourism. [18:59]
asciilifeform !s orcs [18:59]
assbot 45 results for 'orcs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=orcs [18:59]
mats shortly after i came back, i left the faith. if god is real... i would seek him out and kill him. [18:59]
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trinque mats: hell of a disillusionment tale [19:06]
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thestringpuller i miss the bye command from ftp [19:10]
jurov http://www.returnofkings.com/32053/this-accidental-experiment-shows-the-superiority-of-patriarchy mircea_popescu may like :) [19:13]
assbot This Accidental Experiment Shows The Superiority Of Patriarchy ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzAcYm ) [19:13]
mircea_popescu ima look i na sec translating a great short [19:13]
BingoBoingo jurov: imagine the camp Kyriarchy could have built [19:16]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: lets play a game of "would you rather" [19:23]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: would you rather have a dick sized nipple, or a nipple sized dick? [19:23]
asciilifeform !s fork in the eye [19:23]
assbot 1 results for 'fork in the eye' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fork+in+the+eye [19:23]
trinque thestringpuller: you can cut off the nipple... can't uncut the dick [19:24]
BingoBoingo Given the common internet saying, I'm assuming the dick nipple must also engage in shitting? [19:25]
trinque design committee incoming [19:26]
BingoBoingo ;;ud shitting dick nipples [19:28]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitting+dick+nipples | A term used to refer to strange fetishes involving drawn porn. Especially furry porn. [19:28]
BingoBoingo https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Shitting_Dick_Nipples [19:29]
assbot Shitting Dick Nipples - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzBjal ) [19:29]
mats https://soundcloud.com/madeon/youre-on-ft-kyan-oliver-remix [19:30]
assbot You're On ft. Kyan (Oliver Remix) by Madeon - Hear the world’s sounds ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzBpyW ) [19:30]
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trinque mats: requires flash [19:33]
* trinque shakes his fists at an uncaring sky [19:33]
mats run it in a sandbox [19:33]
thestringpuller flash ain't dead yet? [19:34]
trinque sites trying to DRM still tend to use it [19:34]
thestringpuller trying is a key word there I'd suppose [19:34]
trinque ayep [19:34]
thestringpuller ls [19:35]
thestringpuller oops [19:35]
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ben_vulpes sad story, mats [19:37]
mats i resolved that day to become god, so i would never have to see anyone die again [19:38]
mats unless i wanted to. [19:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform check it out : that guy wanted the stuarts, this guy is "return of kings", mayhap there's soemthing here. [19:39]
ben_vulpes fucking hilarious jurov [19:39]
trinque mats: interesting actually, to think of god as a human aspiration [19:40]
mircea_popescu "Most cultures worldwide are patriarchal – to find examples of successful matriarchal societies you either have to turn to ancient history, remote outskirts of the world or feminist fiction. " [19:40]
mircea_popescu anyway, that much ius actually true. [19:40]
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mircea_popescu however, this MAY be like saying that illiterate cultures are the norm, and to find successful literate cultures you either have to turn to ancient history, remote outskirts or capitalist fiction. [19:41]
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danielpbarron he blames capitalism for producing feminism in the linked article at the bottom [19:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, the main factor destroying that experiment is that they don't allow violence. [19:44]
mircea_popescu the nine women - three men island + slavery would have probably icmb'd the other one within a few generations. [19:45]
mats trinque: its the dream of every living creature. to grow until all the space you can see is a part of you. the desire for greatness... [19:45]
mircea_popescu mats actually this is a mental condition in humans, and the desire of squids and generally cephalopodes exclusively. [19:45]
mats there's two ways to do it: to kill anything that is not yourself, until nothing is left to oppose you. [19:46]
mats you say to all the universe, only I will be great, and to make room for me the rest of you must give up even what you already have, and become nothing [19:47]
trinque dunno about that [19:47]
mats i'm quoting heavily from a book that was influential in my youth. [19:48]
trinque you need some of that other stuff to exist [19:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;google anal stage [19:48]
gribble Anal stage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Anal Stage of Psychosexual Development: ; Psychosexual Stages | Simply Psychology: [19:48]
mats some metaphysical nonsense... but i still think about it from time to time. [19:48]
trinque I think one's dominion whereas the other's destruction. [19:48]
trinque to own something means you can destroy it, not necessarily that you will [19:48]
mircea_popescu "MOSAC - a charity which supports the non-abusing parents and carers of abused children - says a third of all calls to its helpline are from women who believe they have been groomed into conceiving a child." [19:49]
mircea_popescu http://news.sky.com/story/1365552/paedophiles-grooming-women-to-bear-children [19:49]
assbot Paedophiles Grooming Women To Bear Children ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzCEOC ) [19:49]
mircea_popescu i wonder how prevalent this actually is. as opposed to interested parties trying to create a niche for their ngos. [19:49]
trinque mats: what was the second thing? [19:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: kings << that one, and $maxint others, are 'moldbuggian' blogs that appeared in imitation, nth generation copies of nth generation copies, etc. [19:50]
mircea_popescu o is it ? [19:50]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: snore. 'moldosphere' etc. largely dead. [19:50]
trinque mircea_popescu: they can't whip up satanic cult hysteria anymore... pedos are second best? [19:50]
mircea_popescu maybe. [19:50]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: used to also be called 'alt right' or 'neoreaction' [19:50]
mircea_popescu trinque: why the fuck for example do I have some daemon running for accessibility << generally that's because if you need it you can't turn it on, so it has to be on by default. you can turn it off obviously. [19:51]
asciilifeform lol! [19:52]
trinque mircea_popescu: wasn't started by openrc, nor .xprofile, just spawned off by gtk I think... ? [19:52]
mats trinque: an exercise for the reader [19:52]
* asciilifeform wonders if somebody actually made this argument in life [19:52]
trinque when I find out how to kill it I will [19:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's how the accessbility stuff sails in. [19:52]
trinque also get an adult! one with functioning limbs/eyes/etc [19:52]
trinque I'm sure this accessibility crap can remote control any gtk app [19:53]
asciilifeform trinque: 'dbus' [19:53]
asciilifeform trinque: (remote control) [19:53]
mircea_popescu trinque seems probable. [19:53]
asciilifeform not just probable, but trivial. [19:54]
trinque asciilifeform: notably -dbus did nothing [19:54]
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trinque seems like the libraries using this stuff take it upon themselves to spawn the thing they want? [19:55]
mircea_popescu punkman: lol idiot << i left him a comment too. [19:55]
mircea_popescu guy's obviously got his own agenda, but hey, won't be able to say he wasn't exposed to the sane set of ideas. [19:55]
mircea_popescu jurov: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/search?_filestring=&_string=gethostbyname yay this works finally too << o hey wd!@ [19:56]
assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.chicken general search: gethostbyname ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzDfQi ) [19:56]
asciilifeform jurov: why am i seeing the win32 crap ? [19:57]
asciilifeform jurov: or is this straight 0.5.3 without patches [19:57]
jurov it's the very first chicken versions [19:57]
asciilifeform aha [19:57]
asciilifeform ty jurov [19:58]
jurov will add 0.5.3.1 tmrw or so [19:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, jurov, whoever else is awake: anybody got a preferred build system they want to see used for toynode (as well as a name for the latter, toynode is ridiculous) ? [19:58]
mircea_popescu i feel the need to contribute to this conversation, so http://41.media.tumblr.com/98462099f6f241b5474709437fd38b0e/tumblr_moiadqjAx31r4amwso1_1280.jpg [19:58]
asciilifeform current experimental rig is (surprised) a gentoo box [19:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzDmv8 ) [19:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform tornade ? sounds like toynode, except also descriptive. [19:59]
asciilifeform eh, the 'tor' scrapes the eye like the shit in matsushita [19:59]
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* asciilifeform does not really have strong emotion on this subject [19:59]
jurov just have an ebuild for it? or it ought to produce identical binaries no matter what? [20:00]
jurov and name, bitcoinator? [20:00]
asciilifeform ...identical binaries << ideally. [20:00]
jurov er.. there's tor too [20:00]
* asciilifeform favours bitcoinator [20:00]
asciilifeform somehow less allergenic. [20:00]
mats node-in-a-box. [20:01]
mircea_popescu ok, how about A-node [20:01]
asciilifeform works too [20:01]
mircea_popescu a for ascii, node for nude or something [20:01]
asciilifeform l0l [20:01]
trinque mircea_popescu: between the CVEs and your links this room pays for itself [20:02]
mircea_popescu lucky it doesn't cost much :D [20:02]
trinque heh [20:02]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: kings << that one, and $maxint others, are 'moldbuggian' blogs that appeared in imitation, nth generation copies of nth generation copies, etc. << Less pseudoliteracy, more literacy as archeaological artifact there. Seems distinct off shoot of Moldsphere. Far greater focus on expatriation. [20:03]
mircea_popescu re thye whole "Source Code Similarities Between NSA Malware and 'Regin' Trojan " : the cause is quite obvious but somehow not found by the ever-brighter hn collective. that is : nsa outsourced the production. the way that ball got dropped is embarassing to them, and its very existence even more embarassing. [20:03]
mircea_popescu but then again, i don't know anyone but asciilifeform to both honestly and seriously propose viewing the nsa as aserious endeavour, and even he's been kinda shaken latelyt. [20:04]
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mircea_popescu hory shit. [20:05]
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gribble The operation succeeded. [20:05]
danielpbarron full-nodity [20:05]
asciilifeform lol! [20:06]
* asciilifeform won't belabour the point re: how 1) the nsa directorate that ended up publicly pants-down is not the whole nsa 2) the bureau is not the whole of usg intelligence [20:06]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: what do you mean regarding 2? [20:06]
asciilifeform but mircea_popescu is right! they do outsource crapware production. it is not even an especially deep secret, to where. [20:06]
mircea_popescu there's also the secret service dudes, guarding your tungsten bars an' sheit [20:06]
thestringpuller the secret service guards our debased gold? [20:07]
mircea_popescu north korea ? [20:07]
thestringpuller i thought they just protect obama and slap around counterfeiters [20:07]
asciilifeform usg bureaucracy is every bit as gnarly as soviet equivalents, there are ~two dozen 'spy agencies', each with $maxint budget and practically whole legal immunity [20:07]
trinque seems a place for rot to accumulate, not coherent action [20:08]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: this is why I think private spy agency with $maxint budget are more efficient than any USG version. [20:08]
mircea_popescu trinque quite. [20:08]
jurov lolwut? znc announces its segfault so? [20:08]
mircea_popescu jurov news to me. [20:08]
BingoBoingo And after the toy drone incidents trap shooting is going to have become part of the standard marksmanship bar to pass, if actual lizard hitler. [20:09]
asciilifeform i don't even believe, necessarily, that they have achieved anything. but in a logically distinct hypothesis that the snowden papers do not prove 'usg is impotent' any more than the famous kgb defections of the '70-80s proved that soviet intelligence was dead [20:09]
mats na, 'exploding drones' doesn't seem like a good way to kill a protected person [20:09]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform except it WAS dead. [20:09]
thestringpuller You kidnap someone and claim you're CIA or some agency but really not (You're some shadowy private spy agency). So then when the "investigation" begins the dozen or so spy agencies point fingers at each other and unknown private firm continues to hide in shadows [20:10]
mircea_popescu much like the pacepa defection proved the end of the romanian thing. [20:10]
thestringpuller I'm certain this is not recent theory as its pop culture by now. [20:10]
mats they routinely deploy jammers, set perimeters, and have trained designated marksmen... learned their lessons in trashcanistan et. al [20:10]
trinque asciilifeform: it's that coherence bit that I think is important. An N1 rocket has plenty of power at its disposal [20:10]
trinque ends up turning the launch site into an inferno to match [20:10]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#747021 [20:11]
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jurov lol assbot [20:11]
asciilifeform mats: jammers, marksmen << drop vertically. [20:11]
BingoBoingo RE: KGB - Tom Clancy novels were right except "Jack Ryan" was russian and manifests IRL as Putin. [20:12]
asciilifeform mats: against k guards, use k+n machines, where n is a positive integer [20:13]
mats asciilifeform: max altitude of 'Raven' is about 150m [20:13]
mats and good luck getting that high with a meaningful payload [20:13]
asciilifeform what is 'raven' ? [20:13]
mats i think the WASP is a more economically feasible approach [20:13]
mats RQ-11 backpack drone. [20:14]
asciilifeform that isn't even a chopper. [20:14]
mats you have a point... [20:15]
asciilifeform and it is certainly physically possible to fly toy 'multicoper' above 150m. [20:15]
mircea_popescu tbh, if you're going this avenue you're better off firing a home made sol-sol missile at the target than hitting them with a homemade drone [20:15]
mircea_popescu just buy a lot of fireworks. [20:15]
mats i'd like to take this moment to affirm that this is purely speculative, and i have no intention of being so much as within the city limits of POTUS... [20:16]
asciilifeform l0l [20:16]
asciilifeform http://www.suasnews.com/2011/03/4822/dont-sell-rq-11-ravens-on-ebay << oldie [20:16]
assbot Don’t sell RQ-11 Ravens on eBay | sUAS News ... ( http://bit.ly/1wzEqix ) [20:16]
mats Secret Service has no humor about this sort of thing. [20:16]
asciilifeform also has quotas. [20:17]
mats why would you want to buy a fucking raven anyways? [20:17]
asciilifeform !s new york death ray [20:18]
assbot 8 results for 'new york death ray' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=new+york+death+ray [20:18]
thestringpuller my buddy got fined flying a quadcopter > 200m [20:18]
mats we had a few in my intel section while i was in, fucking things would fall out of the sky a quarter of the time, 20 mins into flight [20:18]
thestringpuller "Failure to file flight path with FAA" [20:18]
mats fucking useless [20:18]
trinque rc plane with a gopro... definitely deserves 20 years in prison [20:18]
asciilifeform same as pgp. [20:19]
mircea_popescu the sad fact of the matter is that the same general development that allows derps like yanis souflakis to pretend like "he can distinguish inflation from product improvement" also allows anyone who isn't a redditard and has a day's leisure to build a missile ; and anyone that isn't iran and so mentally retarded to build a nuke. [20:19]
asciilifeform a most cruel weapon of war, clearly [20:19]
thestringpuller did zimmerman get 20 years? [20:19]
mircea_popescu these aren't hard problems in any sense anymore. they're onyl still hard for retards. otherwise, the safety of "designated importants" ios a matter of public mercy [20:19]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: he got something worse [20:19]
thestringpuller i thought he avoided jail time [20:19]
mircea_popescu not of "work" or "Agencies" or "laws" etc [20:19]
mircea_popescu i wonder how long until it sinks in, with the mostly empty head of obama, with the mostly empty head of blasio, with the mostly empty head of everyone else in that group of derps : that they're still alive because nobody could be bothered to kill them yet. [20:21]
mircea_popescu NOT because anyone or anything is 'protecting' them [20:21]
mats the SS certainly doesn't have a good record [20:22]
asciilifeform but they have a real ripper of a time barricading entire quarters of city, banishing tourists from restaurants, theatres, etc. [20:22]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: http://www.contra.org/pgp/PhilZimmerman.html << i see. scary. [20:22]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: scarier is that he's a stooge now. [20:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure. [20:22]
asciilifeform i haven't any idea how, specifically, he was lowered. but fact is. [20:23]
trinque mircea_popescu: perhaps when the state tucking them in at night fails to do so for a sufficient number of days [20:23]
trinque I expect a collective mental breakdown followed by wailing and gnashing of teeth instead [20:23]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: this is less scary and more sad to me :( [20:23]
trinque this and the inability of the NSA to act coherently I think come from the same dead culture [20:23]
mircea_popescu trinque i suspect they actually understand this pretty well, which is why the vehehehery gingerly treatment of actual powers that be, and the very loud derpage around idiots asking for a cock in their ass, like schwarz. [20:24]
thestringpuller trinque: sounds like a coup de gras of come kind. [20:24]
mircea_popescu "Please take Econ 1. When the Federal govt prints more money and spends, you do not get much inflation when there is massive unemployment. The extra $ the government prints and distributes is spent, increasing demand for goods and services. If the govt then KEEPS increasing the money supply, THEN you get inflation." [20:25]
mircea_popescu the idiots derping in tlp's comment section... [20:25]
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mats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjDzLxq0SV0 [20:27]
assbot Lupe Fiasco - Mural - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/15Qz0KP ) [20:27]
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trinque mircea_popescu: maybe when they're all in chains they can dig holes then fill them back in for a while [20:31]
trinque call it an art piece [20:31]
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mircea_popescu nah. i happen to know what they'll do. sadly it's all in romanian, but there's dozens of articles detailing the "what do idiots who thought they were right and in power do once it comes out they were wrong and never really in power". [20:32]
mircea_popescu it's a lot of... welll.... actually it looks a lot like liberal-radical-on-reddit, in the early stages. [20:32]
mircea_popescu !up frb [20:33]
-assbot- You voiced frb for 30 minutes. [20:33]
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trinque mircea_popescu: congregate and resolve to be bad at new-ruling-ideology to make a point? [20:40]
trinque portland business owners enrage me for that reason [20:40]
trinque the idea that being embarrassed about discussing money for example makes them a good communist [20:41]
mircea_popescu it's this particular sort of "world is mean" [20:41]
trinque ah we were robbed [20:41]
trinque should've been X [20:41]
mircea_popescu im kinda curious who will be claimed as the evil foreign invader. [20:42]
mircea_popescu there's always one of these, that came in and ruined "a good thing". prollly the chinese i gues, tho you never know. [20:42]
trinque if it swings "tea party" everyone brown [20:42]
mircea_popescu yeah that also. [20:43]
trinque I don't know; thinking about this runs into the inability to coherently do anything [20:43]
trinque what does the tea party "do" now? make tshirts? [20:44]
trinque hm so maybe that's what lingers, the delusional faux-doing [20:44]
trinque makes me think of either you or asciilifeform talking about concentration camp inmates pretending to be guards, making fake uniforms [20:46]
trinque vs say mats experience of "fuck god, I am god" [20:46]
trinque seems like there are a few ways a mind can break [20:46]
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asciilifeform 0.5.3 folks: did one of you post, a while ago, a list of libs (specific version) favoured: (e.g., db-4.8.26, openssl-xxxxxx, ...) [20:50]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unrelated: http://habrahabr.ru/post/248419 [20:54]
assbot Встраиваем бэкдор в Bitcoin (ECDSA) или еще раз о клептографии / Хабрахабр ... ( http://bit.ly/15QDqkT ) [20:54]
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asciilifeform (summary: walkthrough for construction of simple ecdsa backdoor, for n00bs) [21:00]
asciilifeform nothing earth-shaking, but good maths tutorial. [21:00]
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BingoBoingo http://www.jensendental.com/alloy/charts/alloy-chart.html << Iridium in your mouth [21:30]
assbot Jensen Dental Alloys - Alloy Chart ... ( http://bit.ly/15H18zA ) [21:30]
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mats http://www.businessinsider.com/tinder-co-founder-whitney-wolfe-and-bumble-2015-1 [21:34]
assbot Tinder Cofounder Whitney Wolfe And Bumble - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1yLYT9n ) [21:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91250 @ 0.00036592 = 33.3902 BTC [-] {3} [21:35]
mats whoa [21:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23248 @ 0.00037074 = 8.619 BTC [+] {2} [21:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44602 @ 0.00037151 = 16.5701 BTC [+] {2} [21:44]
BingoBoingo http://www.returnofkings.com/53859/so-do-you-want-to-learn-how-to-code << No Comment [21:45]
assbot Do You Want To Learn How To Code? ... ( http://bit.ly/15H2LgB ) [21:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19908 @ 0.00035729 = 7.1129 BTC [-] [21:48]
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BingoBoingo !up nubbins` [21:50]
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nubbins` o hi [21:50]
nubbins` i disconnect often enough that authing isn't really a priority [21:50]
nubbins` although you guys do miss out on a lot of witticisms [21:50]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Why is why I !up you. I am suffering wit deficiency [21:52]
asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000031.html <<<< gpg: BAD signature from "mod6 (mod6) [21:53]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15H3zC9 ) [21:53]
asciilifeform mod6 ^^^^^ [21:53]
mod6 srsly? [21:53]
asciilifeform aha. [21:53]
mod6 oh i know what it is. [21:53]
mod6 i bet that the damn translation of my email address did it [21:54]
asciilifeform so turdatron never really worked. [21:54]
BingoBoingo http://www.returnofkings.com/27361/how-the-bakken-oil-fields-put-me-on-the-path-to-truth [21:54]
assbot How The Bakken Oil Fields Put Me On The Path To Truth ... ( http://bit.ly/15H3KgJ ) [21:54]
mod6 so yeah, i signed "" [21:55]
mod6 and then the turdalator changed it [21:55]
mod6 if you could be so kind... just change the text to that and see if it verifies. [21:55]
asciilifeform works [21:56]
asciilifeform jurov: ^^^^^^ [21:56]
mod6 ok cool, good catch ascii [21:56]
asciilifeform can we put an end to the mutilations. [21:56]
mod6 i'll send out a new copy. [21:56]
asciilifeform and am i the only one who actually checks sigs [21:56]
* mod6 works on that [21:56]
mod6 when i had mutt setup properly with my own mx it was pretty sweet because it would check sigs and everything automagically. [21:57]
mod6 one of these times, I gotta get mutt back going again [21:57]
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mod6 ok i re-sent with a new version number and "" written in by me. [22:12]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/01/greece-taps-anti-bitcoin-video-game-economist-as-finance-minister/ [22:13]
assbot Greece Taps Anti-Bitcoin Video Game Economist as Finance Minister | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/15H647t ) [22:13]
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punkman ;;google tf2 hat economy [22:17]
gribble Analyst Pegs Team Fortress 2 Hat Economy at $50 Million - Kotaku: ; A beginner's guide to the Team Fortress 2 economy - Destructoid: ; ARBITRAGE AND EQUILIBRIUM IN THE TEAM FORTRESS 2 ...: (1 more message) [22:17]
punkman the one thing he wrote on valve blog is about tf2 hats http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/author/yanis/ [22:19]
assbot yanis | Valve ... ( http://bit.ly/15H6ZVm ) [22:19]
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BingoBoingo !up nubbins` [22:23]
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nubbins` the forum is eating itself [22:24]
nubbins` ouroboroustalk.org [22:24]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Where nao? [22:24]
BingoBoingo Still the wood condomer [22:25]
nubbins` heh ya [22:25]
nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.0;all [22:25]
assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/15H7Sx8 ) [22:25]
nubbins` this is one of the only ones still unlocked [22:25]
nubbins` scroll down to where people start making connections between TECSHARE and WoodCollector via domain whois [22:25]
nubbins` my sides [22:25]
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BingoBoingo Wait, Techshare is a waterboy? [22:26]
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nubbins` about halfway down the page there are some pretty funny pictures of me [22:27]
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nubbins` strangely, he passed this one by: http://imgur.com/5v5jUqI [22:28]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/15H8ov4 ) [22:28]
nubbins` and this one [22:28]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/1O9azbk [22:28]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/15H8pPK ) [22:28]
nubbins` and this one... http://imgur.com/88qiKWs [22:29]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/15H8tPC ) [22:29]
nubbins` heh now people are asking TECSHARE for screenshots of his PMs [22:31]
nubbins` hahahahah [22:31]
nubbins` did someone put LSD in the water? [22:31]
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BingoBoingo lol [22:35]
BingoBoingo The thing that sold me on WC as a fraud is that and actual master carver would focus on edges instead of relief making the BfL dildo feathered and much more painful. [22:37]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8092gOWK61qjuse9o1_1280.jpg << better drones bureau [22:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1H94yfp ) [22:39]
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nubbins` "arch your back" "WHAUET? I CAN'T HEAR YOU" [22:39]
mircea_popescu lol "i advise people to learn html, becausre that's a language and it worked for me. wut ?" [22:40]
nubbins` : [22:41]
nubbins` D [22:41]
decimation re: usg intel 'truths': https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-55-no.-1/pdfs/CleanedPetersen-What%20I%20Learned-20Apr2011.pdf [22:41]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15H9Q0E ) [22:41]
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decimation "Newcomers to the IC may not realize that the CIA presence in the Oval Office during the George W. Bush administration was the exception, not the rule." [22:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Do you have a good file on the Bitcoin Magazine drama. I'm at a loss for history on that one. [22:43]
mircea_popescu hanbot ^ [22:43]
BingoBoingo When they told me in early 2013 to not bother submitting to them I kind of exiled them on my own. [22:44]
BingoBoingo Damnatio Memoria sort of thing, but if someone want to dump some history I'll pull a thing together. [22:45]
decimation "And the consumers of intelligence say out loud “Why should I trust you on this issue when you were wrong on that one?” Weak performance in one DI area immediately calls into question all work in the CIA." [22:47]
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mircea_popescu and with that, i'll be off. [22:51]
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