Forum logs for 26 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform and if that were the end... then, bundling pacts with pc makers, the collusion with intel to kill 'os/2' (secret cpu instructions), many other wonderful things [00:00]
diametric i miss os/2. [00:00]
mircea_popescu so these are not free market ? [00:01]
asciilifeform i suppose ms turdows being mandatory os of usg is also free market ? [00:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0564999 = 0.226 BTC [+] [00:01]
mircea_popescu it wasn't born that way. [00:01]
mike_c ^ i think you are underestimating what it took to build the monolopy. [00:02]
mircea_popescu so now, the "competition on technical merit" leg of your statement, i see [00:02]
mircea_popescu the free market leg however, i do not. [00:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0564999 = 0.113 BTC [+] [00:02]
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mircea_popescu i'll readily grant that it didn't operate in any kind of free market in the 90s. but your statement was as of product [00:03]
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asciilifeform it is no coincidence, though, that ms became synonymous with 'home computer' in the 90s and not earlier. [00:04]
mircea_popescu it may be. [00:05]
mircea_popescu for instance, if jobs weren't an idiot. [00:05]
mircea_popescu shitty macs could have been synonymous with home computer [00:06]
asciilifeform much of what people think of as 'dark age' of apple corp. took place without herr jobs [00:06]
mircea_popescu with much, much worse overal effects. [00:06]
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mircea_popescu fucktards running tablets today don't even realise they should be able to interact with their hard drives [00:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform there is sucvh a thing as idiocy through absence. [00:06]
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asciilifeform the outcome, unsurprisingly, was the death of apple corp. (it does not really exist today, just 'next' corp. renamed 'apple') [00:07]
mircea_popescu come to think about it, i don't know there's something in the world i ever hated more than a mac, and in this sense a ms-dos pc seems a muchly preferable alternative. [00:07]
mike_c the 'dark age' of apple would have been the 'no apple' age if microsoft hadn't given them money to keep them alive. [00:07]
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mircea_popescu so perhaps it was quite free market : we just got the better alternative, which sucked. [00:07]
mircea_popescu the general idiocy of "the community" ie, the paying public, being the field on which technical solutions have to live. [00:08]
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asciilifeform msdos was in some very real sense 'soviet' - as in, all the known joys, but a kid can build explosive xxxx at his parents' dacha without being harassed [00:08]
mircea_popescu mike_c which kind-of explains WHY microsoft kept apple alive. [00:08]
mircea_popescu any sane dog will keep the wolf alive. [00:09]
asciilifeform in america this tactic has a name: [00:09]
asciilifeform 'good cop / bad cop' [00:09]
mircea_popescu democratic party ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu aok. [00:09]
mike_c keeping apple alive prevented more DOJ attention at the time. [00:09]
mircea_popescu in soviet russia this also has a name. vrag naroda etc. [00:09]
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midnightmagic mikaeldi1e mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio_ [00:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.073798 = 0.6642 BTC [+] [00:09]
midnightmagic mikaeldi1e mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu mixdio_ [00:09]
mircea_popescu mike_c my meta-point is that, even if not epxlicit, what it really did was it kept people like me pacified [00:10]
mike_c hah. gotcha. [00:10]
mircea_popescu that'd otherwise have taken a flamethrower at redmond [00:10]
mircea_popescu you know, simply shot gates, instead of merely throwing pies. [00:10]
bounce er. should kids on tablets be able to interact with the hard drive? it's a bit like asking if drivers should be able to interact with their motor. plenty people prefer stick. esp. in the us plenty people *cannot drive* without automatic [00:10]
mircea_popescu what's a free market other than an endless caleidoscope of a mexican standoff [00:11]
mircea_popescu bounce also known as "plenty of people in the us cannot drive" [00:11]
asciilifeform ;;google good cop/bad cop [00:11]
gribble Good cop/bad cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Good cop bad cop (disambiguation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Beyond Good Cop/Bad Cop: A Look At Real-Life Interrogations : NPR: [00:11]
bounce no need to generalise the point in obvious irrelevancy though [00:11]
bounce s/in/&to/ [00:11]
mircea_popescu i guess. [00:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05039859 = 0.1008 BTC [+] [00:12]
* bounce recalls reading someone lamenting the world didn't go the wossname "persistent" route -- run a program, it'd auto-save to disk. next time you start it, auto-picks up where you left it. but on full OS level. [00:13]
mircea_popescu some of the early memories kinda worked this way [00:13]
bounce in such an environment it's perhaps easier to see a different abstraction than the "files in directories on drives" we more or less take for granted [00:13]
asciilifeform bounce: as described in my piece, [00:13]
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mircea_popescu geting the damned thing to actually reboot was hell [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.05039871 = 0.252 BTC [+] {2} [00:13]
asciilifeform bounce: it has a name. 'orthogonal persistence' [00:14]
bounce hm think I read about it elsewhere [00:14]
asciilifeform you can actually get nonvolatile memories that work at dram speeds now. [00:14]
asciilifeform ;;google MRAM [00:14]
gribble Magnetoresistive random-access memory - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; MRAM-Info | MRAM News, Resources & Information: ; Everspin Technologies, Inc.: [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0565 = 0.226 BTC [+] [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.05039879 = 0.252 BTC [+] [00:15]
bounce anyway, with flash-backed ram those days could be here again [00:15]
mircea_popescu also, an illustrative example of why losing weight sucks : [00:15]
asciilifeform they could. but you'd have to incinerate the legacy turdware. [00:15]
asciilifeform and probably legacy cpu archs. [00:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05039879 = 0.2016 BTC [+] {2} [00:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform or simply find a different application [00:16]
mircea_popescu this discussion neatly maps on the cellphone/landline discussion. [00:16]
mircea_popescu sometimes one gets a chance to start over. [00:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0504 = 0.2016 BTC [+] {3} [00:17]
asciilifeform correct. [00:17]
asciilifeform genuinely starting over, even in an embedded machine, has cost. see apple's 'newton'. [00:17]
mircea_popescu but sometimes that's unavoidable [00:17]
mircea_popescu as in, well, this application will require a start-over anyway [00:17]
mircea_popescu for x y z unrelated reasons [00:17]
bounce has risks though, qv second system effect [00:17]
mircea_popescu so might as well try something else. [00:17]
mircea_popescu bounce i suspect that risk is mostly mitigated by stalin [00:18]
mircea_popescu which is why stalin even exists in the first place. [00:18]
bounce 'sdies, even without need you can, iff you have some vision or other to back it up. that's apparently a rare thing, seeing how there's only only jobs and a fsckton of imitators and NIH-botching immitators [00:19]
mircea_popescu indeed [00:19]
mircea_popescu what's 'sdies ? [00:19]
asciilifeform bounce: one of the purposes of stalin is to distinguish between imitators and the genuine article. [00:19]
bounce s/di/id/ [00:20]
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bounce this the bloody-handed dead guy or some metaphor I'm missing a reference to? [00:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform or moreover, to make sure that none of the imitators survive [00:20]
mircea_popescu (even should it come at a cost of a few genuine heads impaled) [00:21]
asciilifeform well, that follows naturally, no? [00:21]
asciilifeform once you determine what part of a kitchen is a cockroach and which parts aren't, the next step is clear [00:21]
mircea_popescu indeed [00:21]
mircea_popescu bounce i used it as a metaphor for a guy who says "you do what i tell you or i kill you" and then proceeds to stick to his word. [00:21]
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bounce oh. AIUI he'd be wont to kill you for reasons entirely outside your control, too. well perhaps that's apt too. [00:22]
mircea_popescu surely he will. [00:23]
mircea_popescu one of the chief complaints of my slavegirls is that they have no measure of control over x [00:23]
mircea_popescu and my response invariably comes back as "tough". [00:23]
bounce you more or less sound like that turkish guy in one of the bond novels [00:23]
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benkay mircea_popescu regarding weight loss: what, everything sags a little? [00:24]
mircea_popescu HOYT: State your name. [00:24]
mircea_popescu SOUP NAZI: Yev Kassem. [00:24]
mircea_popescu HOYT: Could you spell that? [00:24]
mircea_popescu SOUP NAZI: No! Next question. [00:24]
bounce not being in control and getting punished for things not under your control are different things though [00:25]
mircea_popescu benkay those thighs ;/ they look unwomanly. [00:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9952 @ 0.00095181 = 9.4724 BTC [-] {2} [00:25]
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mircea_popescu bounce well if you're dealing with stalin, you're not getting punished. [00:26]
mircea_popescu you're getting killed. [00:26]
Mats_cd03 i find the boobies to be the most erotic part of the woman [00:26]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 meet my friend freud, he has some observations to make. [00:26]
Mats_cd03 does your friend freud have boobies? [00:27]
B007 guys it happend [00:27]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:27]
mircea_popescu largest collection in all of vienna [00:27]
mircea_popescu B007 o.O [00:28]
mircea_popescu mind control! [00:28]
B007 I wish [00:28]
mircea_popescu my friend freud says that since you said it just as i was going to bed, clearly it's the case. [00:29]
B007 did you dream it [00:29]
mircea_popescu mnope. [00:29]
Mats_cd03 let me know if freud is any good in bed [00:29]
benkay ;;seen ninjashogun [00:30]
gribble ninjashogun was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 29 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: hi, asciilifeform [00:30]
asciilifeform lol [00:30]
benkay ;;seen CheckDavid [00:30]
gribble CheckDavid was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: Haha [00:30]
mircea_popescu how to ping random people for fun and profit [00:30]
benkay there's some interesting synchronous behavior. [00:30]
mircea_popescu i dig BingoBoingo's twitter background [00:31]
CheckDavid benkay: @ [00:32]
CheckDavid *? [00:32]
CheckDavid Lol [00:32]
bounce I don't suppose there'd be a way to get a ban for selling wow gold overturned on the grounds that blizzard isn't paying taxes over it [00:33]
diametric haha [00:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00282912 = 0.2999 BTC [-] {6} [00:34]
diametric bounce: my experience is banned accounts almost always stay banned, unless you can convince someone you were hacked. [00:34]
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B007 [00:35]
ozbot Facebook purchases VR headset maker Oculus for $2 billion | Ars Technica [00:35]
diametric in my experience, i was special banned, and almost sued [00:35]
B007 nooooooooooooooooooo [00:35]
diametric B007: it is a sad day. [00:35]
diametric that belong on the onion.. [00:36]
benkay zuck wants to point and laugh at carmack the code monkey [00:36]
bounce "hacked". anyway. [00:36]
mircea_popescu diametric lol you sold wow gold ? [00:36]
diametric mircea_popescu: nope [00:37]
bounce only $400M and a sack of fool's gold [00:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05402103 = 0.108 BTC [-] {2} [00:37]
benkay really? [00:37]
benkay whatsapp for 16b and oculus rift for 400m? [00:37]
diametric though after they banned me I was very tempted to rape their policies in as many ways as I could. [00:37]
benkay that's damn insulting. [00:38]
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diametric benkay: they didn't buy whatsapp for 16b, they bought 450 million users. [00:38]
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bounce $4G + shares and things, apparently [00:40]
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diametric ;;ident diametric [00:42]
gribble Nick 'diametric', with hostmask 'diametric!~diametric@2604:3400:dc1:43:216:3eff:fe27:bf9d', is identified as user 'diametric', with GPG key id BDD47433133081CF, key fingerprint 0789CB4F508B384EB74CEFBFBDD47433133081CF, and bitcoin address None [00:42]
benkay ;;calc 16000000000/450000000 [00:43]
gribble 35.5555555556 [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0568 = 0.1704 BTC [+] [00:43]
diametric mircea_popescu: i didn't sell gold, but i did other things that caused them to actually track down my place of employment via linkedin and try to have my fired. I should actually state it wasn't Blizzard. Blizzard was not bad about it, it was the brass as Activision. [00:44]
mircea_popescu eh [00:44]
diametric I have since decided maintaining a linked in profile is a bad idea. [00:44]
mircea_popescu why ? [00:44]
mircea_popescu if some random schmucks manage to get you fired you're better off weithout the idiots anyway. [00:44]
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diametric well, I was never actually in danger of getting fired, I just did not enjoy having that much personally identifiable information hanging out there. [00:45]
bounce if you look at the (wikipedia) list of acquisitions it's the userbase they pay most for. actual tech doesn't sell well, databases full of users do. [00:45]
B007 ;;ident B007 [00:46]
gribble Nick 'B007', with hostmask 'B007!~B007@unaffiliated/b007', is not identified. [00:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0509 = 0.2545 BTC [+] [00:46]
diametric mircea_popescu: though, I guess they ultimately did me a favor. It broke my addiction to MMOs and gaming in general, though I do play casually from time to time. [00:47]
mircea_popescu as far as i can remember i always used tos as toilet paper and never suffered for it. [00:48]
benkay great thing about the USG is that there's enough ToS for an entire lifetime of butt wiping. [00:49]
benkay and the service ain't that great anyways so fuck 'em. [00:49]
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punkman [00:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0554 = 0.1108 BTC [-] {2} [00:50]
mircea_popescu at some point dodgy promoters are going to run out of angles to try and spamvertise donations. then what ? [00:51]
punkman they'll never run out [00:51]
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mircea_popescu ;;google doge coins through wide angle lens! [00:52]
gribble Camera Lenses | Nikon Digital Camera Lenses | NIKKOR Lens Optics: ; We test the Vtec Wide Angle and Macro Lens for iPhone 4: ; Insert Coin: Piper melds home automation and security in a simple ...: (1 more message) [00:52]
asciilifeform lol: [00:53]
asciilifeform [00:53]
ozbot PC4-200P Amphenol Aerospace | Mouser [00:53]
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mircea_popescu [00:53]
ozbot Craig Show - Animals close-up with a wide angle lens - YouTube [00:53]
asciilifeform not every day you see a golden toilet in a catalogue. [00:53]
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dexX7 gribble: can you tell me what 4 pm et in utc is? [01:19]
asciilifeform dexX7: gribble is mechanical. [01:20]
* asciilifeform pictures some wretch, perhaps in india, employed as a human gribble. [01:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05400053 = 0.216 BTC [-] {3} [01:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00095088 = 6.4384 BTC [-] [01:21]
dexX7 haha i know [01:21]
asciilifeform if hieronymous bosch were alive today, painting pictures of the torments of the damned in hell, perhaps he'd feature a human disk controller [01:21]
asciilifeform moving bits in a wheelbarrow, for all eternity [01:22]
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mircea_popescu ;;google 4pm et in utc [01:24]
gribble Converting EST to GMT - World Time Buddy: ; Converting UTC to EST - World Time Buddy: ; Converting EST to UTC - World Time Buddy: [01:24]
dexX7 ty, i guess it's only a matter of the right question ;) [01:25]
mike_c that's weak. it does measurements for you. i guess timezones aren't as popular [01:25]
mike_c ;;google 4mm to inches [01:25]
gribble inch/mm CONVERSION CHART - Maryland Metrics: ; Rings & Things - Converting inches to millimeters: ; mm to inches - millimeters conversion: [01:25]
mike_c hm, gribble doesn't support it anyway [01:25]
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bounce ;;calc 0.4*2.54 [01:26]
gribble 1.016 [01:26]
mike_c gribble > google [01:26]
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bounce that can't be right [01:26]
mike_c it's not :) [01:26]
bounce ;;calc 2.54/0.4 [01:26]
gribble 6.35 [01:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00294126 = 0.4118 BTC [+] {8} [01:27]
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mike_c ;;calc 4/25.4 [01:27]
gribble 0.157480314961 [01:27]
bounce right. time for bed. [01:28]
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asciilifeform [01:30]
ozbot New IRS Bitcoin Rules Pose a Problem Only an Army of Startups Can Solve | Wired Enterprise | Wired.c [01:30]
asciilifeform (for the headline lulz) [01:30]
asciilifeform '“I think this is going to create a huge opportunity for hosted wallets,” says Jered Kenna, a bitcoin entrepreneur and the CEO of He believes that the smart bitcoin wallet makers will simply be able to add this as a service, tracking the capital gains and losses as you spend your bitcoins through the year, and maybe even issuing you a convenient 1099 at the end of the year.' [01:31]
asciilifeform on what planet do people want this. [01:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08220512 = 0.7398 BTC [-] {5} [01:32]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: On the planet where the rectothermal is repackaged as a fashionable relaxation on par with massage and enemas here. [01:34]
benkay the planet where the führer's shit is the only cake you've ever eaten. [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16821 @ 0.00095007 = 15.9811 BTC [-] [01:35]
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jurov yall don't understad. They are Proudly Officially Recognized for once! [01:36]
asciilifeform many years ago, a 'seedy' and much-beloved bar in my town was torched at night, by unknown saboteurs. the local rag proclaimed that 'this is an opportunity! the land will be put to good use by respectable developers!' [01:36]
asciilifeform ever since, whenever i see the english word 'opportunity' in the idiot press, i think of just this. [01:37]
asciilifeform in other news: in california it is illegal to teach - anything - without a permit: [01:37]
asciilifeform [01:37]
ozbot California Cracks Down on Hacker Boot Camps | Wired Enterprise | [01:37]
benkay learning is illegal [01:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2640 @ 0.00281087 = 7.4207 BTC [-] {13} [01:38]
jurov since fucking is, everything follows [01:38]
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Apocalyptic fucking is illegal now N [01:39]
mircea_popescu yeah, jared kenna [01:40]
jurov in the US most of it is [01:40]
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mircea_popescu the guy who stole a bunch of customer funds [01:40]
mircea_popescu and then ran off and made a real estate development which floundered [01:40]
mircea_popescu and then tried to come back to bitcoin for more and got smashed [01:40]
mircea_popescu and now imagines somehow he'll be allowed to hold customer funds. [01:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00094728 = 16.8142 BTC [-] {2} [01:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7431 @ 0.00094721 = 7.0387 BTC [-] [01:42]
BingoBoingo Well, it's by the Wired guy who got pissy on twitter. [01:42]
jurov kenna strives to have his scam documented in IRS-compliant manner [01:42]
jurov and that will be his undoing [01:43]
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mircea_popescu eh, currently the usg policy is something along the lines of "well why put away the scammers, they're useful players" [01:44]
mircea_popescu in that you can always have them inform on anyone else stupid enough to be in business with them. [01:44]
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mircea_popescu as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, the ideal situation is to have everything penetrated by people like kenna. [01:46]
mircea_popescu on one hand they're scum anyway, so not likely they'll suddenly discover a backbone, and on the other hand even if they were to try you already have enough on them to put them away for a long, long time. [01:46]
asciilifeform this is the phoundation in 1 sentence. [01:47]
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mircea_popescu myeah. [01:47]
asciilifeform it's why 'gox == btc' in the us press, etc. [01:47]
mircea_popescu the problem with this, of course, is that it doesn't actually work. [01:47]
mircea_popescu which is the fundamental reason why stuff like the wot and otc trade and so forth are so important. [01:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00095052 = 13.3824 BTC [+] [01:49]
ninjashogun Google Securities Act Section 2(a)(1) and read the first sentence [01:49]
ninjashogun Google: "Securities Act Section 2(a)(1)" and read the first sentence [01:49]
ninjashogun and Google: "Exchange Act Section (3)(a)(10)" and read the first sentence (of the pdf) [01:50]
BingoBoingo ;;google Securities act [01:50]
gribble Securities Act of 1933 - Securities and Exchange Commission: ; Securities Act of 1933 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Securities Act Of 1933 Definition | Investopedia: [01:50]
ninjashogun "Mr. Viragh, p If it constitutes a security, yes. pThe definition of security is included in Securities Act Section 2(a)(1) and Exchange Act Section (3)(a)(10). In addition, the term “investment contract” has been further defined by court cases. While the determination that “stocks” and “bonds” are securities may be fairly simple (because they are specifically named in these definitions), the determination [01:51]
ninjashogun as to whether something is an investment contract is a fact-specific analysis. p The Division of Trading and Markets " [01:51]
ninjashogun!*@* added to ignore list. [01:51]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [02:00]
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gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 583.77, vol: 8107.38220171 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 581.0, vol: 4810.71151 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 583.9899, vol: 4888.78347245 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 600.01, vol: 34.50767128 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 575.192574, vol: 2277.19400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 5.97791428 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 587.35, vol: 41.56679934 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [02:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 998 @ 0.00013639 = 0.1361 BTC [+] [02:00]
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mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [02:02]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from [02:02]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:15fe50f1e823040fe9f0418e90b7848df01f4b2a7052ce1bb09784ba [02:03]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [02:03]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate FabianB 3 Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc [02:11]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user FabianB has changed from 1 to 3. [02:12]
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TestingUnoDosTre a little bit late, but this was an awesome comment in the california hacker article "It IS relatively easy for an nationally/regionally accredited operation to advertise a degree program, collect tuition, and then provide low-quality education. Somehow I see a deep parallel, and the problem is what again??" [02:13]
mircea_popescu ;;rate pankkake dev, my ATC broker [02:14]
gribble Error: 'dev,' is not a valid integer. [02:14]
mircea_popescu ;;rate pankkake 3 dev, my ATC broker [02:14]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pankkake has changed from 1 to 3. [02:14]
pankkake I don't qualify for this [02:14]
mircea_popescu ;;rate BingoBoingo 3 blogger, my ATC investment banker [02:14]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 3 to 3. [02:14]
mircea_popescu pankkake lol wut ? [02:14]
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pankkake I'm holding like 0.1 BTC worth [02:14]
dexX7 re wired: wasn't this mcmillan guy the one who was here a few days ago? [02:15]
BingoBoingo dexX7: Yeah [02:15]
Apocalyptic doesn't contradict the fact you may be a broker [02:15]
mircea_popescu dexX7 possibly. [02:15]
BingoBoingo He didn't do much in the public chan [02:15]
dexX7 yea [02:15]
mircea_popescu ;;rate mike_c 3 blogger, dev [02:15]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mike_c has been recorded. [02:16]
pankkake Not with a rating of 3 [02:16]
mircea_popescu pankkake how do you know how i score things ? [02:16]
pankkake is there a maximum? [02:16]
dexX7 10? [02:16]
mircea_popescu 10. [02:16]
pankkake thought it was 5. maybe then [02:16]
mircea_popescu pankkake it seems you're labouring under the misapprehension that these ranks are sort-of like school marks [02:17]
mircea_popescu that's not what they are. they're statistical dampeners. [02:17]
pankkake no, I just take them as trust [02:17]
mircea_popescu the only thing someone's aggregate score tells you is how likely it is for you to have someone who knows him in your network. [02:17]
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mircea_popescu and the individual score is not "how trustworthy is this guy" but "how well i am acquainted with this guy", ie, how valuable my input may be to a third party asking for references. [02:18]
duduqa "misapprehension"...boy, I´m learning good English for free here. Big THANK YOU, Mr. MP [02:18]
mircea_popescu duduqa yw [02:18]
pankkake I see [02:18]
mircea_popescu so in this sense, pankkake, i can mark as 10 someone with whom i only do 0.001 trades, inasmuch as i judge that i can 100% describe them to whoever asks [02:19]
mircea_popescu "he' [02:19]
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mircea_popescu conversely i could keep someone at a 1 even if we trade millions, if it's a hit and run affair and i couldn't really tell them from adam. [02:20]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust pankkake [02:21]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013 [02:21]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [02:21]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 11 via 7 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 [02:21]
nubbins` interesting system [02:21]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it's really how the wot's supposed to work. [02:21]
TestingUnoDosTre intruiging [02:21]
nubbins` too true [02:22]
TestingUnoDosTre I'm confused though [02:22]
mircea_popescu it's a web of trust not a web of facebook likes. [02:22]
nubbins` i think the highest rating i've left anyone is maybe a 2. [02:22]
TestingUnoDosTre Let's say your .001 trader comes around looking to trade 5 [02:22]
pankkake but I could trust someone I know nothing about [02:22]
TestingUnoDosTre how do you judge his merit with your system [02:22]
mike_c thanks for rating mp. i have found wot useful even for someone like me with a small graph. you rate people you trust, and then can leech off their ratings. [02:22]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre suppose this guy comes to trade 5 with you. [02:22]
mircea_popescu you don't know him, but know me. so you come to me [02:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07349999 = 0.147 BTC [-] [02:23]
mircea_popescu "hey, what's this guy worth in trust ?" [02:23]
nubbins` ;;rated mircea_popescu [02:23]
gribble You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Oct 17 15:12:06 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: patron of the arts. [02:23]
nubbins` yep, top of my charts [02:23]
mircea_popescu and i tell you "we've done a bunch of 0.0001 trades and i trust him to so and so and back and forth" [02:23]
mircea_popescu and you go "but specifically in this context ? " [02:23]
mircea_popescu and i go "well maybe X or maybe Y" etc. [02:23]
TestingUnoDosTre too much thinking. I'm going to go create a web of likes and dislikes ;) [02:24]
BingoBoingo Basically it is what LinkedIN imagined it could be [02:24]
mircea_popescu lol it's the thinking that makes it powerful tho. [02:24]
mircea_popescu i can cut through the chase in about ten minutes because of it, [02:24]
TestingUnoDosTre just joking. you explained the concept quite well [02:24]
mircea_popescu and that's quite why i;'m so distrustful of various "Experts" and "ceos" and whatnot that don't have one. [02:24]
pankkake people accept anyone's friendship in linkedin. I always get recruiters as shortest paths, it's useless :( [02:24]
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TestingUnoDosTre I absolutely hate recruits on linked in. It's like they believe their likelyhood of staying with a company depends on how many contacts they have [02:25]
BingoBoingo Basically the part where you contact the raters is why the apserzersorLords aren't keen on the WoT and default to Pirateat40 to justify their sloth [02:25]
pankkake they did some things right lately, you can *endorse* people [02:25]
nubbins` linkedin sucks [02:25]
mircea_popescu meanwhile at the farm of evil, [02:25]
nubbins` i'm suspicious of people who add me on it [02:25]
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TestingUnoDosTre I've had some Indian dude that I briefly hung out with at work like 3 years ago ask for endorsements on his project management skills. I complied... [02:27]
nubbins` heh [02:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the who ?! [02:27]
nubbins` yeah, i've had people i worked with 3 years ago "endorse" me for skills out of the blue [02:27]
nubbins` doesn't make any sense [02:27]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The forum aspies [02:27]
mircea_popescu oh oh [02:28]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: And the wanna be Ceo aspies [02:28]
nubbins` "the hr manager at your first job out of university has endorsed you for the following skills" [02:28]
nubbins` GREAT [02:28]
pankkake I've been endorsed for skills the people endorsing me knew nothing about. that's because it bugs you to endorse people… [02:28]
mircea_popescu useless social bs. [02:28]
nubbins` ^ [02:28]
BingoBoingo The people for whom any social interaction is a greater burden then clicking button on whatever virtual BBQ retreat they go to [02:28]
nubbins` linkedin: it's like facebook, but without your friends and family [02:28]
mircea_popescu kinda why i love nanotube. he's a geek, and he's not making the wot any more social than it is [02:28]
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* nubbins` endorsed you for the following skills: beard-growing [02:29]
pankkake I removed a lot of friends this year actually [02:29]
pankkake ahah [02:30]
* mircea_popescu endorses you for your girlfriend. and also endorses her. [02:30]
mircea_popescu where en-dors-ing would mean...well... [02:30]
mircea_popescu something to do with behinds. [02:31]
TestingUnoDosTre oh my gawd that comment is priceless [02:31]
* nubbins` endorsals your gf for the following skills [02:31]
nubbins` rusty trombones [02:32]
nubbins` hot carls [02:32]
mircea_popescu it's getting harder and harder to argue with that chick [02:32]
mircea_popescu davout she totally owned joo :D [02:32]
mircea_popescu endorsaled! [02:32]
nubbins` her ignore button is no longer yellow, -1 [02:33]
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mircea_popescu "would ignore again ++++" [02:33]
pankkake because of thermos [02:33]
nubbins` heh [02:33]
nubbins` pankkake really? [02:33]
pankkake yes, because it slows down the server or some crap [02:34]
nubbins` so you could say that thermos has... INSULATED her? [02:34]
* nubbins` cackles [02:34]
pankkake because that obviously can't be cached… [02:34]
nubbins` btctalk is fucked these past few days [02:34]
nubbins` i get a 500 error upon first connect, without fail [02:34]
nubbins` hit refresh, it loads [02:34]
pankkake who's behind by the way? [02:34]
nubbins` open a thread w/ images, all broken. refresh, all there. [02:34]
dexX7 hehe wanted to drop too [02:34]
nubbins` pankkake: i think thermos is, so he can cut and run with the forum upgrade funds [02:35]
nubbins` ;D [02:35]
dexX7 [02:35]
ozbot Say Hello to 2014, Bitcointalk. I created, a real alternative to 5 mil [02:35]
mircea_popescu o wait wait... the 3k btc worth of server can be slowed down ? [02:35]
mircea_popescu dexX7 maybe drop the guy a note to come by ? [02:36]
mircea_popescu i think pretty much everyone likes him by now. [02:36]
TestingUnoDosTre what did he do? [02:36]
mircea_popescu an undeletable tardstalk [02:37]
mircea_popescu well... undeletable by the same crowd at any rate. [02:37]
TestingUnoDosTre did that guy just copy bitcointalk? [02:37]
dexX7 it's a mirror [02:38]
BingoBoingo [02:39]
ozbot No Women Allowed? Why Men Served Lunch at Nuclear Summit - NBC News [02:39]
davout mircea_popescu: haha yeah, "ceci n'est pas un ownage" [02:40]
dexX7 i think this is the original thread on btctalk [02:40]
mircea_popescu [02:40]
nubbins` davout: "but it is an ownage!" "okay, then, smoke it" "..." [02:41]
mircea_popescu hey, anyone recall that iconic confidence scam scene where the guy pretends to be an ex marine waiting for a money order ? [02:41]
davout i know of one where the guy pretended to be a pirate or sthg [02:41]
mircea_popescu no, he pretended to be a stranded marine [02:41]
mircea_popescu prmised the mark 30 bucks out of his inexistent check, [02:42]
mircea_popescu mark gets his check first, offers 30 bucks [02:42]
mircea_popescu [02:42]
ozbot House of Games (1987) - Short Con - Western Union Scene - YouTube [02:42]
mircea_popescu ty invisible hand [02:43]
TestingUnoDosTre hahaha that was awesome [02:47]
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nubbins` house of brutal acting [02:48]
mircea_popescu yeah they can't act [02:49]
mircea_popescu kinda makes the thing stronger, imo. [02:49]
punkman good movie [02:50]
punkman that "thank you sir, may I have another" was hilarious in the end [02:50]
nubbins` hm, mamet [02:51]
nubbins` i saw glengarry glen ross earlier today for the first time [02:51]
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mircea_popescu one should never see that film for the first time. [02:52]
mircea_popescu [02:53]
ozbot Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide [02:53]
nubbins` i don't know what that means [02:54]
mircea_popescu lol !b 1 [02:54]
nubbins` you ruined it ;( [02:54]
mircea_popescu aww [02:55]
nubbins` !b 4 [02:55]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( [02:55]
* nubbins` cackles [02:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60235671 = 10.8424 BTC [-] {10} [02:55]
nubbins` so my folks don't like their neighbours. the kid just got hauled off in a cop car. mom sez: [02:55]
nubbins` "Young Ronnie is just gone off in a cop car. Looks like he's handcuffed. Bozo and Dogface left right after in their car." [02:56]
nubbins` heh [02:56]
mircea_popescu bozo and dogface ? your folks sound pretty cool. [02:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00602382 = 0.4638 BTC [-] {7} [02:56]
nubbins` mom had a glass of wine with supper, guess she's all brazen now [02:56]
mircea_popescu nubbins` anyway, the comment was a contrived "you should see it multiple times" [02:57]
nubbins` aha, i figured as much [02:57]
TestingUnoDosTre Alright... this video get's boring between like 0:30 and 1:45, but it produces continual excitement [02:57]
TestingUnoDosTre * after that [02:57]
nubbins` between that and wall street last night, i ended up remembering that "salesman" was totally a thing that men were, for a while there [02:57]
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nubbins` so anyway the movie recommendations from you guys are 2 for 2 so far [02:58]
nubbins` what's next? [02:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-] {2} [02:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05739998 = 0.1722 BTC [+] [02:58]
mircea_popescu [02:58]
ozbot Trilematograf pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:58]
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mircea_popescu o look what i found! asciilifeform an excursion in the romanian ribald tradition [02:59]
nubbins` hm, i've seen maybe 90% of the english movies you've reviewed [02:59]
mircea_popescu < part of it with interpretation [03:00]
ozbot Parazitii - Daca Eram (Necenzurat) - YouTube [03:00]
nubbins` cannibal holocaust was a piece of shit [03:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04939866 = 0.3458 BTC [+] {5} [03:00]
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mircea_popescu it was lol. [03:01]
mircea_popescu "Daca eram un canibal si te prindeam cu o urata te luam la pula-n scurt baga-mi-as pula-n ea de strimba." [03:01]
mircea_popescu intraductible. [03:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.054 = 0.108 BTC [-] {2} [03:01]
mircea_popescu "Daca eram gropar te ingropam drept in ocean si-apoi la vaduva-i bateam, zimbind, cu pula-n geam." if i were an undertaker i'd had undertook you straight to the ocean and then i'd be arround knocking in the widow's window with my inflamed schlong [03:02]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell benkay Idea [03:05]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:05]
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BingoBoingo Monopoly goes BernanKoin [03:06]
mircea_popescu anyone seen revenge of the cheerleaders btw ? [03:06]
nubbins` the mint doesn't fuck off with these "9x% sold out!" emails [03:06]
nubbins` i read "9x% sold out" and i translate as "we're having a hard time getting rid of these shit coins!" [03:06]
mircea_popescu possibly worse than canibal holocaust. also tits and ass. [03:06]
benkay what's this notion you have BingoBoingo? [03:06]
nubbins` CH borders on Troma territory [03:07]
nubbins` like what was the one... I Was a Nymphomaniac Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell, or something? [03:07]
* nubbins` shakes head at the memory [03:07]
mircea_popescu nubbins` revenge of the cheerleaders thing is basically "rent an old space opera B set, make some floozies run naked around it" [03:07]
nubbins` funny style of revenge [03:07]
mircea_popescu it's not that it doesn't make sense [03:08]
mircea_popescu it's more that you can't figure out what it doesn't make sense about. [03:08]
nubbins` heh. [03:08]
nubbins` "this isn't right. it isn't even wrong" [03:08]
mircea_popescu amir speaking in an amir-designed microphone would be a decent approximation [03:08]
mircea_popescu yeah. [03:08]
nubbins` now i'm imagining a man shouting into a sandwich [03:09]
mircea_popescu into half a sandwich which for some reason has some packing peanuts glued to a jello tin [03:09]
nubbins` heh [03:09]
nubbins` "maybe it [03:10]
nubbins` 's not turned on" [03:10]
mircea_popescu "then why the erection" [03:10]
nubbins` pouring drain cleaner on it [03:10]
nubbins` stapling it [03:10]
nubbins` etc [03:10]
nubbins` so we're set to have a -- no joke, this is what they're calling it -- "weather bomb" on wednesday night/thursday morning [03:11]
mircea_popescu someone set your weather the bomb ? [03:11]
TestingUnoDosTre absolutely great article on monopoly house rules [03:12]
mircea_popescu your client truncates TestingUnoDosTre [03:13]
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mircea_popescu davout how the fuck do you have more activity than mpoe-pr [03:13]
mircea_popescu do you even sleep! [03:13]
nubbins` i even saw davout posting on reddit today [03:14]
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nubbins` anyway, should be a shit show, since the city laid off 80 of its 130 snow clearing workers this past friday [03:15]
davout mircea_popescu: that's because you'll always be a newfag to me :D [03:15]
nubbins` resulting in such situations as this: [03:15]
nubbins` i fail to find the link [03:15]
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nubbins` anyway a garbage truck was making its way down a steep road, lost control, picked up TWO CARS parked on the curb and brought them down with it [03:16]
nubbins` finally smashed into an SUV at the bottom of the hill, saving the occupants of the adjacent house from certain death [03:16]
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nubbins` [03:17]
nubbins` there we go [03:17]
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nubbins` for reference, that picture was taken 3pm today and the snow stopped falling YESTERDAY. [03:18]
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nubbins` ah, heh, i actually know that tall garbageman in between the truck and the green car [03:19]
nubbins` he always posts facebook status updates about the heavy metal CDs he's listening to in the truck that day, and says things like "heavy metal garbage truck: where long hair is the law" [03:20]
moiety evening mews all :) [03:20]
moiety hows everyone? [03:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00266649 = 2.1332 BTC [-] {27} [03:21]
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benkay i have a beer-suds mewstach, moiety [03:21]
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moiety excellent work benkay, i have a pressed grape thingamajig here, i dont think it will give me a mewstache though D: [03:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04800133 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2} [03:22]
nubbins` i'm debating running to the store before it closes [03:22]
moiety do it because 5 minutes after it does you will wish you had gone [03:22]
moiety or is that just me? [03:22]
nubbins` [03:22]
ozbot Father ordered to leave Canada after choking daughter - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [03:22]
nubbins` man throttles daughter in greasy fish-and-chips shack [03:22]
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benkay you'd think at 30 he'd be glad to get shot of her [03:23]
cedivad "an undeletable tardstalk" [03:23]
nubbins` the best part is where it says she secretly already married the guy [03:23]
cedivad that's me, yes [03:23]
moiety o.o "...went into the washroom to text her boyfriend, who happened to be at the police station laying charges against Alshaek for the earlier incident at the restaurant." well that probably helped the case [03:23]
nubbins` cedivad, welcome [03:24]
nubbins` the best part is at the end. apparently it was the new husband who should have been choking her [03:24]
nubbins` "Alshaek said through an interpreter that if he'd known that, it would have changed everything. Alshaek said he would not longer have been responsible for disciplining his daughter — that would fall to the husband." [03:24]
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adolf_fishler .bait [03:25]
ozbot [03:25]
nubbins` the greasy spoon in question is maybe a 5 minute walk from here [03:25]
TestingUnoDosTre still truncating/ [03:25]
adolf_fishler too fat. [03:25]
adolf_fishler .bait [03:25]
ozbot [03:25]
adolf_fishler not fat enough [03:25]
adolf_fishler .bait [03:25]
ozbot [03:25]
adolf_fishler whoa, too much dick [03:25]
davout bah [03:25]
adolf_fishler who let the man in here [03:25]
adolf_fishler .bait [03:25]
ozbot [03:25]
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nubbins` bum shelf [03:26]
pankkake [03:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-] {2} [03:27]
adolf_fishler who the fuck is that [03:27]
adolf_fishler ? [03:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.054 = 0.216 BTC [-] {2} [03:27]
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pankkake answer in url [03:27]
adolf_fishler someone needs to put that whale [03:27]
adolf_fishler back into the sea [03:27]
benkay :( [03:27]
nubbins` ah fuck the store closes in three minutes [03:27]
nubbins` it's too late D: [03:27]
benkay that first one was great [03:27]
pankkake i thought you wanted fatter [03:27]
nubbins` someone recommend a movie [03:27]
adolf_fishler haha [03:27]
benkay Tank Girl [03:28]
nubbins` veto [03:28]
adolf_fishler no you severely underestimated [03:28]
adolf_fishler the fattness [03:28]
adolf_fishler of my request [03:28]
adolf_fishler i want her to be like, cant get out of bed [03:28]
adolf_fishler and i have to wash her fat rolls daily [03:28]
Duffer1 nubbins` someone recommend a movie >> The Secret of Nimh [03:29]
nubbins` seen it [03:29]
benkay the fourth fast and the furious [03:29]
nubbins` :( [03:29]
Duffer1 The Dark Crystal [03:29]
nubbins` seen it [03:29]
nubbins` (great movie btw) [03:29]
benkay neverending story [03:29]
moiety oh btw nubbins` you are the only other person ive met (otherthan who showed it to me) that has seen Funny Games, highly underrated film [03:29]
nubbins` guys i'm 32 years old [03:29]
cazalla kaci starr is fine for me, love em chubby like that [03:30]
Duffer1 same nub ^.^ [03:30]
nubbins` moiety: the silence+breakdown at the end shook me to the core [03:30]
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adolf_fishler [03:30]
adolf_fishler here is not bad [03:30]
nubbins` i guess i didn't spec it out enough [03:31]
nubbins` recommend a movie for adults that isn't about honda civics [03:31]
adolf_fishler hrm [03:31]
adolf_fishler what kind of movies [03:31]
adolf_fishler u like?> [03:31]
moiety the red hair but on the farthest right girl would be perfect [03:31]
adolf_fishler matchstick men [03:31]
adolf_fishler is a good movie [03:31]
adolf_fishler ya she's nice. [03:31]
moiety momento nubbins` [03:31]
nubbins` an interesting drama or something with intrigue [03:31]
adolf_fishler WATCH MATCHSTICK MEN [03:31]
nubbins` seen memento [03:31]
moiety memento* [03:31]
adolf_fishler ITS A GREAT MOVIE [03:31]
adolf_fishler it wont disappoint. [03:31]
moiety cache [03:31]
Duffer1 first season of Rick & Morty [03:32]
nubbins` nicolas cage, really? [03:32]
moiety actually if you thought funny games was disturbing, don't watch cache [03:32]
adolf_fishler trust me [03:32]
adolf_fishler its his best movie [03:32]
adolf_fishler you have to trust me on this one. [03:32]
nubbins` that's like saying x is the best altcoin [03:32]
adolf_fishler how long have we known each other, TRUST ME [03:32]
nubbins` or a blender is the best way to lose your dick [03:32]
adolf_fishler it has a good cast [03:32]
adolf_fishler - cage [03:32]
nubbins` ok, ok, i'll trust you on this [03:32]
nubbins` you better not fuck me [03:32]
adolf_fishler i wont i promise [03:33]
adolf_fishler its a good fucking movie [03:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00260346 = 0.2994 BTC [-] {2} [03:33]
benkay cage [03:33]
benkay nubbins`: u gettans trolled [03:33]
punkman nubbins`: [03:33]
nubbins` benkay i know right? [03:33]
moiety nubbins`: have you seen I come with the rain? [03:33]
nubbins` nicolas "the numbers are the key to everything" cage [03:33]
adolf_fishler ;o [03:33]
nubbins` moiety nope [03:33]
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adolf_fishler no thats jim " everything adds up to 23 " carey [03:33]
nubbins` nah cage did one too [03:34]
moiety please do at some point, again disturbing but awesomely done [03:34]
nubbins` "knowing" or something [03:34]
nubbins` altho that did have an EPIC plane crash [03:34]
moiety its pretty violent in bits too though, be aware [03:34]
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nubbins` the movie itself was such a stack of shit [03:34]
adolf_fishler yeah [03:34]
adolf_fishler it wasn't great. [03:34]
adolf_fishler however it ranks high on the list of [03:34]
adolf_fishler cage movies ive seen [03:34]
adolf_fishler i like con air [03:34]
adolf_fishler it was prett ygodo [03:34]
adolf_fishler but that could be a john malcovich movie [03:34]
adolf_fishler instead of a cage movie. [03:34]
nubbins` actually, being john malkovich is maybe the only cage movie i like [03:35]
adolf_fishler da fuq [03:35]
adolf_fishler cage was in that? [03:35]
moiety all i hear is sweet home alabama whenever con air is mentioned [03:35]
nubbins` wait fuck that was cusack [03:35]
nubbins` HAHAHAH [03:35]
adolf_fishler lol [03:35]
nubbins` see? [03:35]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: What about "Bad Lieutenant" [03:35]
nubbins` BingoBoingo: tried it, stopped about 10m in [03:35]
Duffer1 Gross Point Blank? [03:35]
nubbins` saw it [03:35]
Duffer1 cusak [03:35]
adolf_fishler if ur gonna watch [03:35]
adolf_fishler one cage movie [03:35]
adolf_fishler make it match stick men [03:35]
nubbins` you sure i shouldn't watch the one about the bees? [03:36]
adolf_fishler isnt that sienfeld? [03:36]
moiety [03:36]
ozbot I Come with the Rain (2009) - IMDb [03:36]
adolf_fishler this movie [03:36]
adolf_fishler is quite awesome also [03:36]
adolf_fishler [03:36]
ozbot Cube (1997) - IMDb [03:36]
nubbins` saw it [03:36]
adolf_fishler cant believe it only gets 7.4 [03:36]
adolf_fishler u like? [03:36]
nubbins` cube is canadian :D [03:36]
adolf_fishler o [03:36]
adolf_fishler i didnt know [03:36]
nubbins` acting sucked, great concept [03:37]
moiety how do you feel about subtitles nubbins`? [03:37]
thestringpuller [03:37]
nubbins` i don't mind em [03:37]
thestringpuller ^- random but like wtf [03:37]
nubbins` oh also guys, the real fuckbook is back, according to these ads [03:37]
nubbins` apparently their site has too many hot women, so older men join free [03:37]
mircea_popescu nubbins` clearly not even the google works in canada now that they fired the snowplows. [03:37]
moiety [03:37]
ozbot Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom (2008) - IMDb [03:37]
moiety The Good The Bad The Weird [03:38]
mircea_popescu davout im not that new, i'm like almost bitcoin bodhisattva rank here. [03:38]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Seen Sharknado yet? [03:38]
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adolf_fishler haha [03:38]
adolf_fishler that movie [03:38]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: except for nanotube [03:38]
adolf_fishler is amazing [03:38]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [03:38]
adolf_fishler the ending [03:38]
nubbins` moiety i'm ruined on korean movies [03:38]
adolf_fishler is so epic to sharknado [03:38]
nubbins` watched too many of them [03:38]
cazalla get with the times, it's all about sharkalanche now [03:38]
adolf_fishler how about shocktopus [03:39]
mircea_popescu "curb it" ahahaha [03:39]
moiety nubbins`: Impossible! [03:39]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Which James Bond movies haven't you watched? [03:39]
Duffer1 nubbins' [03:39]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: if you're a bodhisattva nanotube is buddha [03:39]
thestringpuller lol [03:39]
adolf_fishler someone ban popescu he doesnt have enough women to be in this channel [03:39]
nubbins` BingoBoingo: the most recent ones with daniel craig [03:39]
mircea_popescu cedivad o hey, nice work. [03:40]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Any of those three are actually great. [03:40]
nubbins` ah [03:40]
nubbins` well matchstick men is at the top of the list for now [03:40]
nubbins` but keep em coming [03:40]
moiety [03:40]
ozbot Hide and Seek (2005) - IMDb [03:40]
nubbins` moiety quotes from that korean movie: [03:41]
adolf_fishler rofl [03:41]
adolf_fishler i saw that [03:41]
adolf_fishler movie was pretty funny [03:41]
nubbins` Man-gil: The bounty on your head is 300 won. Yoon Tae-goo: What? I'm only worth a piano? Man-gil: A used one at that. [03:41]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre i dunno, do you see BingoBoingo as or ? [03:41]
nubbins` 300 won is like $0.30 [03:41]
moiety OMG nubbins` BEST film ever have you seen The Man From Nowhere????? its the best thing ive ever seen [03:41]
moiety its like Taken but with bells on [03:41]
BingoBoingo ;;ident BingoBoingo [03:41]
gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None [03:41]
cedivad thank you mircea_popescu [03:42]
Duffer1 nubbins' Dark City [03:42]
* moiety got excited - spologies [03:42]
moiety apologies* [03:42]
nubbins` moiety: srsly, i'm ruined on korean movies [03:42]
nubbins` i lost count of how many gritty revenge thrillers i saw [03:42]
nubbins` Duffer1 saw it [03:42]
adolf_fishler i thought u said [03:42]
moiety sigh ok, watch I come with the rain , its a thai director but its english language [03:43]
adolf_fishler girthy revenge thrillers [03:43]
adolf_fishler iwas confused for a sec [03:43]
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mircea_popescu wait is bodhisattva good ? [03:43]
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mircea_popescu i thought it was kinda sucky [03:43]
nubbins` not sure but it was the name of a dispensary in Weeds [03:43]
thestringpuller lol [03:43]
nubbins` which, incidentally, sucked [03:43]
thestringpuller nancy botwin.... [03:43]
nubbins` so full circle there i guess [03:44]
thestringpuller made that show suck [03:44]
thestringpuller they should have just killed her off and replaced her [03:44]
moiety how many arms does it have? or belly size....generally an indication [03:44]
mircea_popescu adolf_fishler which one are you ? [03:44]
nubbins` heh [03:44]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` you saw true romance ? [03:45]
adolf_fishler which one? [03:45]
nubbins` yep [03:45]
adolf_fishler go on [03:45]
mircea_popescu how about four rooms ? [03:45]
adolf_fishler omg [03:45]
adolf_fishler popescu [03:46]
adolf_fishler so few people [03:46]
adolf_fishler know that movie [03:46]
adolf_fishler epic movie [03:46]
adolf_fishler wierd as shit but i love it [03:46]
adolf_fishler the dead person in the bed is my fav part [03:46]
nubbins` four rooms, saw it [03:46]
mircea_popescu jackie brown ? [03:46]
nubbins` i think bruce willis was uncredited in that [03:46]
nubbins` saw it [03:47]
nubbins` many times, most recently last month [03:47]
adolf_fishler he was great there also [03:47]
moiety Donnie Brasco! [03:47]
nubbins` saw it [03:47]
nubbins` also great [03:47]
mircea_popescu casino, bronx story, etc [03:47]
nubbins` saw, saw [03:47]
adolf_fishler home alone 2 [03:47]
moiety i love casino but i havent seenbronx story [03:47]
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adolf_fishler the porno. [03:47]
mircea_popescu o i got one you've not seen : hot summer in the city [03:47]
mircea_popescu 70s sexploitation. [03:48]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Maybe instead of watching make the shitty animated version of -assets? [03:48]
nubbins` mircea_popescu actually, saw it [03:48]
nubbins` i have a friend with a massive collection of blax [03:48]
nubbins` blacula, black jesus, etc [03:48]
nubbins` blackenstein [03:48]
mircea_popescu o hey. [03:48]
moiety lol blacula [03:48]
adolf_fishler how come [03:48]
mircea_popescu you gotta send me this. [03:48]
adolf_fishler transylvania [03:48]
adolf_fishler is associated with dracula? [03:48]
adolf_fishler in my mind [03:48]
nubbins` adolf_fishler prolly some crossed wires [03:49]
adolf_fishler hrm [03:49]
adolf_fishler could be [03:49]
nubbins` dracula was from ohio [03:49]
moiety youve watched too much sesame street adolf_fishler [03:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you seen white cat, blakc cat ? [03:49]
adolf_fishler lies [03:49]
adolf_fishler theres a nintendo game! [03:49]
nubbins` nope [03:49]
BingoBoingo Ohio is THE worst [03:49]
mircea_popescu a, great film. you'll prolly love the music. [03:49]
nubbins` yugoslav romantic comedy?! [03:49]
moiety wait is there actual cats in this mircea_popescu [03:49]
mircea_popescu not really romantic in any sense [03:50]
nubbins` incidentally i noticed there was some Talking Heads in wall street [03:50]
Apocalyptic is four rooms any good ? [03:50]
mircea_popescu but bregovic plays. [03:50]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic definitely. [03:50]
nubbins` Apocalyptic its worth a watch [03:50]
nubbins` tim roth, pre-tupac [03:50]
mircea_popescu moiety just a pair. [03:50]
Apocalyptic k guys [03:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` how about sea of love ? [03:50]
mircea_popescu old pacino. [03:50]
nubbins` haven't seen it, and we have a winner. [03:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` also, malena must see. [03:51]
nubbins` so sea of love, gravity, and matchstick men [03:51]
* nubbins` pops corn [03:51]
mircea_popescu and spielen with liebe, and for that matter bycicle thieves [03:52]
mircea_popescu with lol [03:52]
mircea_popescu mit [03:52]
nubbins` liebe und frieden! [03:52]
BingoBoingo My goal for the next year. Meet up sort of people to start asking other meetup people if they are me [03:52]
Duffer1 nubbins' The Fountain [03:53]
mircea_popescu also liz taylor' [03:53]
mircea_popescu s weird movies. x y and zee [03:53]
moiety has anyone seen this i just remember it being really strange [03:54]
mircea_popescu oh and vozvrashchenie [03:54]
mircea_popescu moiety was so-so [03:54]
mircea_popescu thye didn't do nearly enough nudity i nythe 80s [03:54]
moiety one of those they focussed too much on making it look a certain way and not on the story [03:55]
nubbins` fountain looks ok [03:55]
mircea_popescu an entire decade of these completely stranged movies, that are sorta like a 15yo prissy rendition of "risque" [03:55]
mircea_popescu,_Washington [03:55]
ozbot Oakville, Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [03:55]
mircea_popescu spermdrops falling on my farm, boy... [03:55]
Duffer1 nubbins' it wasn't my favorite, but i believe it's underrated [03:56]
mircea_popescu nubbins` btw, pink flamingos ? [03:56]
moiety lmao @ "handling the blobs" [03:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-] [03:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.054 = 0.216 BTC [-] [03:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.10144642 = 0.4058 BTC [-] [03:56]
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mircea_popescu also malizia (the one with laura antonelli_ [03:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00270701 = 0.1489 BTC [+] [03:57]
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mircea_popescu [03:59]
ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG [03:59]
moiety I have a pink flamingo! frances, slightly stolen from a hawaiian party [03:59]
mircea_popescu so basically kraken claims it passed whatgever "proof of reserves" audit thing [03:59]
mircea_popescu but there's scores of people ciomplaining they've not received their withdrawals etc [03:59]
mircea_popescu on the off chance anyone here was silly enough to have btc there, prolly a good idea to get them out asap, this looks as awful as it getds. [03:59]
mircea_popescu moiety tis a film tho. [04:00]
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BingoBoingo md4 puzzle HEX: 50BF68999A8C67CE26B191DCA5D331A8 or B64: UL9omZqMZ84msZHcpdMxqA== [04:00]
moiety mircea_popescu: bubble burst [04:00]
BingoBoingo Kraken has been toxic almost as long as vircurex, haven't they? [04:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla <<< you broke it! [04:00]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nah, much more recent, and originally they looked legit [04:01]
mircea_popescu something that never really was the case for vircurex [04:01]
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BingoBoingo Well they pulled their name after your PR supposed a Pirate like thing named Craken in the famous Posting the called out Pirate [04:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves [04:02]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo did they ? [04:02]
mircea_popescu RagnarsBitch who the fuck is ragnar ? [04:02]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, they just finished a 5 mio funding round [04:02]
BingoBoingo Well, WHat came first them or the PR saying how to clone Pirate post? [04:02]
mircea_popescu ragnar le viking ? [04:02]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo pirate post was april 2012, kraken was like august 2013ish [04:03]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic except they had a 600 btc hole from before. [04:03]
mircea_popescu that's 3-4mn of the round. [04:03]
Apocalyptic i guess that's why they did it [04:03]
mircea_popescu and in general holes are rarely solo. [04:03]
BingoBoingo See, the Kraken name's jsut always seemed too toxic. [04:03]
Apocalyptic but then kinda dubious why would some potential investors want to patch that hole [04:04]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic you saw actual paper that it actually happened ? [04:04]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: WHo says they know better? [04:04]
mircea_popescu in general nothing keeps someone from claiming they got funded. [04:04]
Apocalyptic I didn't [04:04]
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BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: "Investors" patched Vircurex's 1000+ BTC hole the first time... [04:04]
Apocalyptic true, so you think it's just some PR move on thin air ? [04:04]
Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, unwillingly so [04:05]
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asciilifeform re: kraken et al: makes me wonder how much chumpatronium fuel is left. [04:05]
mircea_popescu i don't think anything any particular way [04:05]
asciilifeform do we get to see 'Peak Chump' ? [04:05]
mircea_popescu but their pr is spiraling out of control in a certain pattern. that's usually the end sign. [04:05]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: You might be confusing that with the second hole in vircurex. [04:05]
Apocalyptic I may indeed [04:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform peak chump actually was 2011. [04:05]
mircea_popescu in btc terms [04:05]
Apocalyptic haven't followed that vircurex story since the beginning [04:05]
asciilifeform '11 was before the fiat world shat forth the 'btc investment phunds' etc [04:06]
asciilifeform so perhaps peak chump is now. or, shortly. [04:06]
Apocalyptic i don't think anything any particular way // your question seemed to imply otherwise [04:06]
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BingoBoingo Vircurex went: 1) hole 2) Investment 3) hole boogaloo 4) scam 5) BTC-TC and Buttfunder died 6) Cryptostocks scamissance 7) Advertising "Interest" 8) Freeze Mothafucker [04:07]
asciilifeform it's like watching a 'bug zapper' [04:07]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic im just not taking anything for granted at this point. [04:07]
asciilifeform flitter - flitter - bzzz [04:07]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, fair enough [04:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes but back then 1k btc was peanuts. [04:07]
asciilifeform point [04:07]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Vircurex's AssPO was actually spring 2013 [04:08]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well yeah [04:08]
BingoBoingo When a BTC was ending it's cheapphase [04:08]
BingoBoingo Eh, I know what Imma blogging tonight. Asparagus is going to have to wait. [04:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.00532521 = 0.2237 BTC [+] [04:10]
BingoBoingo "Vircurex, never even amateur" seem like a decent title for a Vircurex post? [04:13]
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BingoBoingo The post is basically going to be "Vircurex went: 1) hole 2) Investment 3) hole boogaloo 4) scam 5) BTC-TC and Buttfunder died 6) Cryptostocks scamissance 7) Advertising "Interest" 8) Freeze Mothafucker" with elaboration [04:13]
nubbins` hm, raspberry pi reboots when i insert a usb drive [04:14]
nubbins` pretty sure that shouldn't happen [04:14]
adolf_fishler try throwing it [04:14]
adolf_fishler at your dog [04:14]
asciilifeform nubbins`: weak voltage regulator [04:14]
nubbins` can't; no case, no dog [04:14]
MisterE morning [04:14]
MisterE neighbor dog [04:14]
asciilifeform nubbins`: raspi is a turd in 20 different ways. [04:14]
adolf_fishler nieghhhhbors horse [04:14]
nubbins` it's a cat neighbourhood [04:14]
adolf_fishler lol [04:14]
adolf_fishler hoa rules? [04:14]
MisterE thats why they so cheep [04:14]
adolf_fishler no dogs? [04:14]
nubbins` asciilifeform: agreed, but it's lovely for streaming media to the tv :D [04:14]
adolf_fishler do people walk cats there? [04:14]
asciilifeform nubbins`: one of the worst fiddybucks i ever spent [04:14]
nubbins` adolf_fishler: occasionally. mostly they just let em wander [04:15]
MisterE cat is the internet spirit animal dont fuck with cats [04:15]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: find the best cat pictures [04:15]
BingoBoingo *finds [04:15]
nubbins` asciilifeform: not me, but that's just because i've spent fiddy bucks on terrible shit in the past [04:15]
adolf_fishler can i has poland? [04:15]
adolf_fishler CAN I HAS POLAND? [04:15]
adolf_fishler oh its i can has poland. [04:16]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not really a good title [04:16]
mircea_popescu it's not clear what it's supposed to mean. [04:16]
nubbins` adolf_fishler: if matchstick men sucks, you're fucking DEAD [04:16]
adolf_fishler rofl [04:16]
adolf_fishler if matchstick men sucks [04:16]
adolf_fishler ill put on an apron [04:16]
adolf_fishler and be ur wife [04:16]
adolf_fishler for a week [04:16]
nubbins` I HAVE A WIFE [04:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] [04:16]
adolf_fishler well [04:16]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well I asked for a reason [04:17]
adolf_fishler ill come fuck her [04:17]
adolf_fishler for a week then [04:17]
adolf_fishler hows that sound. [04:17]
nubbins` adolf_fishler: no you won't, she doesn't like rice [04:17]
nubbins` (see what i did there?) [04:17]
adolf_fishler lol ;o [04:17]
* nubbins` cackles, turns on movie [04:17]
adolf_fishler nope [04:17]
adolf_fishler oh u dl already? [04:17]
adolf_fishler u guys seen matchstick men? [04:17]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: find the best cat pictures << [04:17]
adolf_fishler lol [04:18]
adolf_fishler ok i laff [04:18]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: [04:18]
adolf_fishler in real life [04:18]
adolf_fishler what the fuck [04:18]
BingoBoingo Those are the ones [04:18]
mircea_popescu ok ima have to ignore this dood. too loud. [04:19]
adolf_fishler!*@* added to ignore list. [04:19]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If our local strays were like that I'd have much less coyote handling to do on my walks [04:19]
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asciilifeform these aren't housecats, though. [04:20]
asciilifeform ;;google manul [04:20]
gribble Pallas's cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Manul – the Cat that Time Forgot ~ The Ark In Space: ; Pallas's Cat Manul - YouTube: [04:20]
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BingoBoingo Well, coyote handling doesn't involve putting hands to coyotes either [04:21]
asciilifeform aha, 'handling' in the german 'Sonderbehandlung' sense. [04:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.10144642 = 1.2174 BTC [-] [04:23]
asciilifeform where do you even live that has coyote. [04:23]
BingoBoingo Well step 1) spot coyote at a dumpster 2) growl and intimidate coyote away from dumpster 3) Piss on dumpster maintaining eye contact with coyote [04:23]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Illinois [04:23]
BingoBoingo Rural southern Illinois [04:23]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo can women do this ? [04:24]
BingoBoingo Prolly [04:25]
mircea_popescu you ever seen it done ? or know for a fact ? [04:25]
moiety asciilifeform: i have a manul as my profile pic now [04:25]
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BingoBoingo Not seen women do this. Personally done these steps a few times this winter. [04:26]
asciilifeform moiety: [04:26]
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moiety lol that one is even bigger!!!!! [04:26]
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mircea_popescu im kinda curious if it'd work. [04:26]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well coyotes aren't that big and I haven't seen them in packs here. [04:28]
mircea_popescu the entire thing'd hinge on whether the animal responds to the behaviour or to the chemical. [04:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform interesting, these aren't really cats, more like leopards. [04:28]
asciilifeform ~lynx sized, afaik [04:29]
mircea_popescu i originally thought they're basically stray cats that took to the wild [04:29]
mircea_popescu but seems not [04:29]
asciilifeform it's one of those 'not quite extinct' exotic beasts [04:29]
mircea_popescu yea [04:29]
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asciilifeform for some reason, the archetypical russian lolcat [04:30]
moiety lmfao is this cat polite [04:30]
mircea_popescu "Like rabbits, after eating they initially produce soft green feces, which they eat again to take in further nutrition, before producing the final, solid, fecal pellets." [04:31]
mircea_popescu (pikas) [04:31]
moiety the manul is where modern cast comes from, they havent changed in 12 million years [04:31]
nubbins` well matchstick men is a piece of shit so far [04:31]
asciilifeform it being 'felis', could probably be crossed with housecat [04:31]
asciilifeform paging zoologists. [04:32]
moiety cats* [04:32]
chetty [04:33]
benkay mircea_popescu: kraken signed with the 600B addy last time i ready [04:33]
benkay read* [04:33]
moiety i think its a shame they keep them in zoos, they are so solitary their immune systems cant handle living so near people and modern day life, they get sick and die a lot :( [04:33]
mircea_popescu benkay sure, but that was never in question. if I have 5 that owe me 600 btc pay to the same one address, the fact that i can prove i have received 600 btc in that address is neither here nor there [04:34]
mircea_popescu the fact that i can't univocally resolve their claims is the problem, and decoying it doens't breed confidence. [04:34]
mircea_popescu on the contrary, it ruins reputations. [04:34]
* asciilifeform pictures a scammer who provides 'wiggle XXX coin address' service to other scammerz [04:35]
mircea_popescu [04:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i imagine it's coming, but it wouldn't have worked in this case. [04:35]
moiety asciilifeform: so basically if i want a job involving manuls, i need to go to uni. sucks. [04:36]
benkay HAW [04:36]
benkay no shit they signed from an addy that wasn't that to which their 600 missing were sent? [04:36]
benkay lawd ahmighty [04:37]
mircea_popescu benkay no no it's like this : [04:37]
mircea_popescu reports surfaced that they showed the same deposit address(es) to multiple users. [04:37]
mircea_popescu those people sent btc there. [04:37]
asciilifeform this, for some reason, inescapably reminds me of the folks who sell the fake piss to dope aficionados [04:37]
mircea_popescu the fact that they can show that some btc made it there is not relevant. [04:38]
mircea_popescu the fact that they can't apportion the sent btc to the various users is the problem [04:38]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The way to reduce piss test fraud is to give portions of the tested at times asparagus and other times no asparagus [04:38]
mircea_popescu somehow nobody picked on "hey, one address per transaction has its issues as a model" as a result, either. [04:38]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the common factor isn't the sham, but the lack of any serious desire on the part of the shammed to probe deeper. [04:39]
MisterE BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : this is what you need, will solve all your problems... [04:39]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for most of the testees having to eat asparagus prolly qualifies as cruel and unusual. [04:39]
MisterE I took that pic, real product [04:39]
MisterE Asparagus is delecious [04:40]
BingoBoingo MisterE: The thing is coyotes don't make sounds like either dogs or cats, they hoot like owls [04:40]
MisterE if not overcooked [04:40]
BingoBoingo Asparagus is great [04:40]
MisterE hOOters eh? [04:40]
moiety asciilifeform: what does this one say? [04:41]
MisterE Beware this credit card scam, tons of guys losing money to it! [04:42]
asciilifeform moiety: 'so you aren't fond of cats? / then we are coming to you!' [04:42]
moiety lololol ty :) [04:42]
* moiety adds to manul collection [04:42]
MisterE timer [04:43]
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MisterE yay! [04:49]
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moiety "a fresh start (rather than importing the old Full Disclosure member addresses)", ie. he wasn't allowed them [04:51]
asciilifeform at this point, burden of proof of lack of diabolical (i.e. nsa) involvement is, sadly, on the curator [04:52]
asciilifeform mailing lists 'can also have problems' [04:53]
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BingoBoingo [04:54]
ozbot Two CNN Producers Arrested in Sad Attempt to Break into the WTC Site [04:54]
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asciilifeform [04:55]
ozbot Secret Service Agents Sent Home From Amsterdam For Partying Too Hard [04:55]
benkay this is similar to what happens to american kids when they encounter alcohol for the first time at age 18. [04:56]
benkay and similar to what happens to the remaining rule abiding ones who wait until they're 21. [04:56]
moiety is it just the scots that start at like, 14-16 then? [04:57]
benkay so the local three dee printing get together is an utter crankshow [04:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0731999 = 0.2196 BTC [-] [04:58]
asciilifeform moiety: is it just the scots that start at like, 14-16 << i thought they started at ~ -1 [04:58]
asciilifeform moiety: do you folks still have 'drambuie' ? [04:59]
BingoBoingo Ugh [04:59]
asciilifeform when i think of scotland, i think of drambuie, haggis, bagpipe, and james clerk maxwell. [05:00]
asciilifeform together. [05:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0009529 = 22.2026 BTC [+] [05:00]
moiety thats pretty much it [05:00]
asciilifeform who needs more. [05:00]
moiety and pey, my aunt lives across the road from a drambuie place [05:00]
asciilifeform how many nations have a maxwell. [05:00]
moiety shes been given free bottles at christmas time and stuff [05:01]
asciilifeform re: drambuie: mendeleev's great discovery wasn't periodic table of elements, but how to make strong drink non-flammable. [05:02]
asciilifeform ;;google mendeleev 40 degrees [05:03]
gribble Dmitry Mendeleev and 40 degrees of Russian vodka - English ...: ; History of Russian vodka | Mendeleyev | Original Russian alcoholic ...: ; Vodka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [05:03]
moiety also: add cream, its also the best kind of drambuie [05:03]
asciilifeform or perhaps not. [05:03]
moiety re James Clerk Maxwell, the building named after him and Edinburger uni is pretty immense [05:04]
moiety at* [05:04]
asciilifeform ;;google the maxwellians [05:04]
gribble The Maxwellians (Cornell History of Science): Bruce J. Hunt ...: ; The Maxwellians by Bruce J. Hunt — Reviews, Discussion ...: ; The Maxwellians - Bruce J. Hunt - Google Books: (1 more message) [05:04]
asciilifeform recommended. [05:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.00276703 = 0.6613 BTC [+] {4} [05:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean on cartwright ? or on fyodor ? [05:05]
mircea_popescu lol nioce one BingoBoingo [05:06]
asciilifeform cartwright? [05:06]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Which one? The CNN dorks who could not act like white trash? [05:07]
mircea_popescu yeah [05:07]
BingoBoingo Ah [05:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the original maintainer [05:07]
asciilifeform aha [05:07]
asciilifeform either [05:07]
asciilifeform both [05:07]
mircea_popescu and wtf you people with your gawker. what the hell is this, we're supposed to be gun totin' libertarians, we reading gawker nao ?! [05:07]
mircea_popescu this is a complete breakdown of the system [05:08]
BingoBoingo Gawker amazes me in its ability to oscilate between the relevant and the worst fermented turds in the sun [05:08]
asciilifeform 'from entomological interest only', as russians say [05:08]
BingoBoingo lol [05:08]
mircea_popescu i can;t for the life of me figure how exactly russia taking crimea disqualifies it as an industrialised country. [05:09]
asciilifeform 'Like excrement, it contains enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But it is not a tasty pie...' - dennis ritchie [05:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever see film 'mean girls' ? [05:10]
moiety this is the best woman in russia [05:10]
mircea_popescu im not sure. maybe not [05:10]
asciilifeform it merely got kicked out of the 'plastik fantastiks', that's all [05:10]
mircea_popescu oic. [05:10]
benkay hey smartypants: what's the 3d imaging technique where you use some knowledge of the lens distortion to compute a point cloud? [05:11]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The thing is Americans based on pre-fracking thought reflexively seem to disqualify nations capable of producing fuel from the ranks of the industrialized and are only beginning to shine that light on themselves [05:11]
mircea_popescu ;;google 3d imaging technique where you use some knowledge of the lens distortion to compute a point cloud [05:11]
gribble Point cloud densification - Department of Computing Science ...: ; 2nd Assignment 776-Spring2013_v2: ; Photogrammetry - Agisoft: [05:11]
moiety mircea_popescu: if you can remember a time where lindsay lohan had reach puberty but not fucked up on drugs yet (yes it was a small window) that would be mean girls [05:11]
mircea_popescu oh i think i know it. [05:11]
asciilifeform moiety: best woman in russia <<,_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5.jpg [05:12]
mircea_popescu sorta the thing that spurred paris hilton's crap, then kardashian's crap etc [05:12]
benkay mircea_popescu: why does google work for you and not me [05:12]
MisterE Kardashian got famous by being fucked on a reality show iirc? [05:12]
benkay photogrammetry, by the way [05:12]
mircea_popescu benkay for i am mp, lord of all things ? [05:13]
mircea_popescu MisterE but what she was trying to do was a sort of mean girls livetv [05:13]
MisterE ahh okj [05:13]
mircea_popescu at least that's what i took it for [05:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: industrial machine vision systems live and die by 'programmetry' [05:14]
asciilifeform e.g. pcb inspection [05:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05400008 = 0.216 BTC [+] {3} [05:14]
asciilifeform [05:14]
benkay wow where'd you find that, asciilifeform ? [05:15]
mircea_popescu incidentally, i don't see what the fdl brouhaha is all about [05:15]
mircea_popescu the dude did it for over a decade [05:15]
asciilifeform benkay: places [05:15]
mircea_popescu how the fuck long is he supposed to stick with the shtick ? [05:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.05285215 = 1.2156 BTC [-] {8} [05:15]
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asciilifeform [05:17]
asciilifeform caption: 'girls, calm down' [05:17]
MisterE hehe [05:17]
asciilifeform [05:18]
mircea_popescu [05:18]
benkay just so you know old guys i <3 you and all your wisdom: [05:19]
benkay “Really, you got this funded?” Stamos asked. Yes, said the kid. “But it obviously didn’t work out,” Stamos replied. Right, said the kid. At which point Stamos began to piece together what must’ve happened. “You collected the data and realized a lot of the data out there is horrible, and you couldn’t make sense of it,” he said. The kid allowed that this was true. “You probably talked to CVS—everyone talks to CVS. And they thought it [05:19]
benkay the best thing since sliced cheese, but they were never willing to buy it.” Again the kid said yes. “Then you realized that anything you’re doing that has to be regulated, like making medical recommendations, requires FDA approval.” By now the kid was demanding to know how Stamos had guessed all of this. “You see these gray hairs?” he said. “It’s the classic model everyone goes through. I know it from Phase Forward.” [05:19]
mircea_popescu lol [05:20]
mircea_popescu i think i wrote this somewhere. [05:20]
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asciilifeform ;;google knowing which screw [05:21]
gribble Knowing which screw to turn - Calvin Correli: ; Nail vs. Screw vs. Bolt: Knowing The Right Hardware To Use : Home ...: ; The Screw - SlideShare: [05:21]
moiety sorry went on a hot croissant/coffee mission [05:21]
moiety asciilifeform: ok ok fair point, best news reader in russia [05:22]
mircea_popescu that first post is incredibly retarded. [05:22]
asciilifeform no idea what's in there [05:23]
mircea_popescu "i dunno man, i justr google here" [05:23]
asciilifeform ought to be, the ancient legend of 'penny - turn screw, $maxint - 0.01 - which screw' [05:23]
mircea_popescu it is yea [05:23]
mircea_popescu some fucktarded "life coach" or w/e shits all over it. [05:23]
asciilifeform ;;yandex foobar [05:24]
gribble Error: "yandex" is not a valid command. [05:24]
asciilifeform phuck [05:24]
asciilifeform wtf is a life coach [05:24]
mircea_popescu some derp that's trying to make a living out of conferences, and looking for sponsors [05:24]
benkay 'statistics' aside, "Jones found that people in their thirties contributed about 40 percent of the innovations, and those in their forties about 30 percent. People over 50 were responsible for 14 percent, the same share as the twentysomethings. Those under the age of 19 were responsible for exactly nothing." [05:25]
mircea_popescu but under survival pressure has curtailed the conference to just two people [05:25]
mircea_popescu and would like you to pick up the tab. [05:25]
benkay i guess buterin just misses the cutoff. [05:25]
mircea_popescu benkay yeah because "innovations" are now commodified, like brent [05:25]
benkay mhm [05:25]
benkay you just sink wells randomly, right? [05:25]
mircea_popescu author should just make some hamburger already. [05:25]
benkay couldn't possibly predict where the sweet stuff is. [05:25]
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asciilifeform re: commoditized 'innovation' - here's a snipped from me turdbox. translation of a page in pelevin's epic 'snuff' (the one with s/ukraine/orkaine, 'orcs', etc) [05:27]
asciilifeform - How come they use the word "sommelier"? - he asked yet another stupid question, - So many different professions, but only one word... [05:27]
asciilifeform - That's what they used to call servants who fetched wine. They had big lists of wines, from which gentlemen could choose. And later, this is what they started to call people who dealt in what was once considered creativity. [05:27]
asciilifeform - Why? [05:27]
asciilifeform - People had already devised all necessary things. Once, long ago, mankind developed in leaps and bounds - not only did the objects around us change constantly, but so did the words we used. In those days there were a great many names for a creative person - engineer, poet, scholar. And all of them constantly invented new things. But that was mankind's childhood. And then it reached maturity. Creativity did no [05:27]
asciilifeform t vanish - but it was reduced to choosing from that which had already been created. Figuratively speaking, we no longer grow grapes. We send for a bottle from the cellar. People who carry out this task, we call "sommeliers." [05:27]
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BingoBoingo ;;ud derp [05:28]
gribble | A simple, undefined reply when an ignorant comment or action is made. Brought to life in the South Park series, when Mr. Derp made a guest apperanc... [05:28]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: derp [05:28]
BingoBoingo ;;ud herp [05:29]
gribble | Herp. The prefix of "derp". Usually used when saying something foolish. Person 1 : Does anybody know why I can't get my TV to turn on? Person 2: Try plugging ... [05:29]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: herp [05:29]
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moiety my guess i began with someone trying to tell a noob they were more skilled/important than they actually were asciilifeform [05:29]
moiety it* [05:29]
asciilifeform [05:29]
ozbot S.N.U.F.F. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [05:29]
mircea_popescu moiety probably in a quest to get in her panties. [05:30]
mircea_popescu which probably worked, which is why it got perpetuated. [05:30]
mircea_popescu I BLAME WOMEN! [05:30]
asciilifeform nitpick with pediwikia - the 'batman' in the epic is not wearing a 'batman' costume. he's a bloke who smashes heads with a baseball bat. [05:30]
asciilifeform (can you imagine the word 'batman' being remembered as something else?) [05:30]
moiety baby daddy is so cool, he's a sommelier you know [05:30]
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mircea_popescu sooo... aaron spelling is just re-doing the same shit over and over [05:31]
VanCleef anyone heard an update from sfi? [05:31]
mircea_popescu this baby daddy thing looks exactly like bh20910 or w/e it was [05:31]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re: 'derp' - [05:33]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'd never forget Birthday logs [05:33]
asciilifeform i can't help but think of the 'derp' from that tale, when i see the word, because - believe it or not - i heard it there before elsewhere. [05:34]
asciilifeform whereas 'herp' inescapably conjures up herpetaria. or perhaps herpes. [05:35]
VanCleef IRS Declares Bitcoin Is Property and Must Be Taxed As Such.....? [05:36]
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moiety this conversation prompted me to check on our site. my manul doesn't look happy with the cat next to him [05:38]
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moiety VanCleef: question is, did anyone listen to irs? [05:40]
BingoBoingo I forgot how long the Vircurex Dossier was, so in the interim enjoy: [05:42]
VanCleef not sure moiety but this is pretty bad [05:43]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Derpasaurii as a construction necessitation clarifying relations between herp and derp [05:43]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ended up misreading as 'Depresaurii' [05:43]
asciilifeform depressed/deprecated megafauna [05:44]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, that may be usefull as I turn my notes into a post. [05:44]
BingoBoingo They are one of the first ventures in this space I was a customer of [05:44]
BingoBoingo I depreciated them from my doings when after hack #1 they revealed they made an exchange on RoR [05:45]
asciilifeform speaking of terminology, is there a... 'suburban dictionary' ? 'rural dictionary' ? [05:46]
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BingoBoingo At that point I imagine they fragment too much [05:46]
asciilifeform ;;ud RoR [05:47]
gribble | ROR. Abbreviated form of "Raughing out Roud". ROR! I rike fried wice. by www. July 13, 2003. 414 73. Mugs & shirts Buy “ROR” mugs & shirts  ... [05:47]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: ROR [05:47]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo much better title :p [05:48]
BingoBoingo Thanks mircea_popescu [05:48]
BingoBoingo I thought suggesting a 13/16 time signature for a reading cadence at the start might get the gravity of the reading going [05:49]
BingoBoingo Publishing the quote untitled with simply notes 1 and 2 was also something I weighed [05:51]
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BingoBoingo I have so many vircurex notes [05:55]
BingoBoingo If anyone just wants to ask questions and scoop a part of this, I'd be cool with that [05:56]
nubbins` i used to live with a sommelier [06:03]
nubbins` he sure did know how to recommend the shit out of wine [06:03]
[\] mircea_popescu: [06:04]
BingoBoingo My favorite Grape product has always been Egri Bikaver [06:04]
nubbins` so gravity was ok but i didn't realize hot pants were standard issue for female astronauts [06:04]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: So you didn't solve my md4 puzzle yet? [06:06]
nubbins` didn't even try :D [06:07]
BingoBoingo Well the answer isn't this [06:08]
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BingoBoingo It may have been a hosted online stream of skyfall though [06:09]
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nubbins` tungsten intoxication, imagine [06:11]
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MisterE nubbins`: what was the last movie you watched? [06:17]
nubbins` gravity [06:17]
MisterE you were telling someone their recommendation better be good... [06:17]
MisterE the name seened interesting [06:17]
nubbins` ah [06:17]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Seriously though, Craig is prolly the best Bond since Dalton [06:18]
nubbins` matchstick men [06:18]
MisterE thanks thats it [06:18]
nubbins` it was a piece of shit, turned it off 15min in [06:18]
MisterE lol crap [06:18]
nubbins` fuckin nicolas cage [06:18]
VanCleef craig isterrible [06:18]
VanCleef sorry [06:18]
MisterE oh fuck I'm not even going to imdb that [06:18]
MisterE nick Cage [06:18]
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nubbins` if there's one thing that 5 men will never agree on, it's who the best bond was [06:18]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: Craig is the third best Bond [06:18]
MisterE what is his good:bad movie ratio like 1:10 [06:18]
MisterE ? [06:18]
nubbins` 1:oo [06:19]
VanCleef robert rodriguez is making a latino james bond film [06:19]
VanCleef should be interesting [06:19]
BingoBoingo Bonds ranked: Connery, Dalton, Craig, Moore, the rest, Connery [06:19]
MisterE best bond was ofc Shawn Connery [06:19]
VanCleef i liked dalton and licence to kill tho [06:19]
MisterE right moiety ? [06:19]
BingoBoingo Except when Connery was the worst [06:19]
mircea_popescu [\] lol not bad [06:20]
VanCleef [06:20]
ozbot Robert Rodriguez's New El Rey Network Plans a 'Latino James Bond' Series | Filmmakers, Film Industry [06:20]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: License to kill was prolly the best bond move in the three decades it is in the center of [06:20]
mircea_popescu nubbins` where oo stands for oo-aa [06:21]
VanCleef yeh i rewatched it the other day, quite good [06:21]
nubbins` it was the closest i could get to an infinity symbol without trying [06:21]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: You realize such a thing is basically Breaking Bad, but centered on Tuco [06:21]
MisterE who was the Bond in the one with Jaws? Moonraker? [06:21]
VanCleef not a fan of breaking bad [06:21]
MisterE Breaking Bad is top 5 series ever made [06:21]
BingoBoingo MisterE: Both of those was Roger Moore [06:22]
MisterE probably tied for #2 with Sopranos in my book [06:22]
MisterE Roger Moore ok he was great [06:22]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: Honestly it would be better from the Salamancas point of view [06:22]
BingoBoingo MisterE: Still only the 4th best bond though [06:22]
MisterE you have them ranked? [06:23]
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blackwhite morning gents [15:10]
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mircea_popescu ello [15:11]
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blackwhite so this is unrelated to bitcoin but might still be of interest. I am doing a contextual note taking app for osx. I have an alpha version and is looking for a few people to test it. The look of it is like this [15:14]
blackwhite and I would love some none designers to test it out [15:14]
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herbijudlestoids hullo [15:16]
herbijudlestoids just thought id pop in [15:17]
mircea_popescu hey herbi [15:17]
herbijudlestoids hows life? [15:17]
mircea_popescu just in time, i'm hatching a scholarship thingee [15:17]
herbijudlestoids orly? [15:17]
mircea_popescu yarly. [15:18]
herbijudlestoids tell me more [15:18]
herbijudlestoids ps: i saw your letters to the SEC. lelz. [15:18]
herbijudlestoids randomly on coindesk one day saw MPex mentioned, about a week ago ithink [15:18]
mircea_popescu you need better sources lolz. [15:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, prolly next article. [15:20]
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herbijudlestoids anyway i just wanted to pop in and check that youre all alive and well [15:21]
herbijudlestoids <3 [15:22]
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TomServo mircea_popescu: when you laying that egg? [15:37]
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mircea_popescu i dunno, it's one of those [15:39]
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mircea_popescu floating in my head doesn't want to come out [15:39]
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mircea_popescu << today i learned someone's been actually doing something pretty close to the whole google-bitbet thing [15:49]
ozbot How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:49]
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Mats_cd03 BingoBoingo: what was your MOS [16:11]
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mircea_popescu [16:18]
ozbot Obama's 'Operation Choke Point' Seeks to Destroy Sectors of Private Lending Industry [16:18]
mircea_popescu " 'Operation Choke Point,' which is designed to destroy three sectors of the private lending industry: third party payment processors ("TPPPs"), payday lenders, and online lenders. ". sez breitbart. [16:18]
Mats_cd03 i disagree with the belief that payday lenders are toxic [16:20]
Mats_cd03 the fact that banks suck so much is precisely why consumers have fled to their services [16:20]
Mats_cd03 ^ away rather [16:20]
mircea_popescu what's toxic is, as always, plastic. [16:20]
mircea_popescu the fact that they enforce it on the "Well to do" govt employees makes it very expensive for actual workers to gateway to the cash ecpnomy they use [16:21]
mircea_popescu basically they're forcing people to be paid in lala land whether they live in lalaland or the actual tide economy [16:21]
Mats_cd03 its simpler than that [16:22]
Mats_cd03 [16:22]
ozbot The Real Reason the Poor Go Without Bank Accounts - Lisa J. Servon - The Atlantic Cities [16:22]
Mats_cd03 less friction seems to be the simplest way to describe it [16:22]
mircea_popescu yup. is pretty much what i meant. [16:22]
chetty the organization plays a critical role in influencing the behavior of banks and financial institutions around the country [16:23]
Mats_cd03 the above article should be required reading for self titled bitcoin enthusiasts [16:23]
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mircea_popescu we probably should make a list of required reading [16:26]
mircea_popescu lampelina hey, you considering a "must read these" page ? [16:26]
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chetty Mats_cd03, that was a great article, thanks much [16:33]
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Mats_cd03 glad you liked it chetty [16:35]
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lampelina mircea_popescu, what do you mean with that [16:50]
lampelina a faq or similar? [16:50]
mircea_popescu no, like a recomended reading list. [16:51]
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ThickAsThieves maybe it ends up a curriculum [16:52]
ThickAsThieves again now [16:54]
mircea_popescu Oculus VisionTech Inc.OVTZ +87.50%, [16:55]
lampelina will think about it when I come to this [16:55]
mircea_popescu and then we bitch about bitcoiners being clueless. [16:55]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves we definitely need a curriculum, currently it's "stfu and read", but the implied "read what ?!" is never really addressed. [16:56]
ThickAsThieves yeah, "go read the logs and the forum" isn't quite realistic anymore [16:56]
mircea_popescu making a proper reading list is definitely something someone with a background in education could halp with [16:57]
ThickAsThieves it's a fucking oddysey by now [16:57]
mircea_popescu the logs are > 50mb on my disk. who can read that ? [16:57]
mircea_popescu and the forums i wouldn't advise anyone to read, unless they had mastered both the topic and internet stuff. [16:57]
ThickAsThieves i feel like i should be able to get a job just mased on all the readin ive done the past year [16:57]
mircea_popescu in principle you should, yes. [16:57]
ThickAsThieves based* [16:57]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure eventually people will, just this bs "o we're the sec/jpm/herpdiderp, we don't need no stikinin' obedience to bitcoin" will have to be either crushed or dissolved first. [16:58]
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mircea_popescu what did that thing ipo at, was it 25 ? or 30 something ? [16:59]
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ThickAsThieves both i guess [17:00]
kakobrekla making a proper reading list is definitely something someone with a background in education could halp with < yes someone give her a hand so we dont end up with links to facebook :p [17:00]
ThickAsThieves xbond round was 25, full offering was 30 [17:01]
mircea_popescu ic [17:01]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla kinda what im tryin for :) [17:01]
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mircea_popescu "If your employer offers you insurance that doesn’t provide free ella, or anything else on the list of “preventive services”—as defined by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and ultimately by Obama—then it’s subject to a fine of $36,500 a year. But if your employer doesn’t offer you insurance at all, it’s subject to a fine of $2,000 a year. " [17:03]
mircea_popescu the usg wrote the book on perverse incentives, srsly. [17:03]
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mircea_popescu << cocksucking was A LOT more expensive in 1676. [17:04]
kakobrekla i feel like i should be able to get a job just mased on all the readin ive done the past year < isnt it the point that you end up not having 'a job' [17:04]
asciilifeform somebody explain the mindfuck from earlier. the 'check cashing shop' thing isn't a straight scam? [17:04]
ThickAsThieves depends how you define job kako [17:05]
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ThickAsThieves i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party [17:06]
kakobrekla i thought it was an acronym for just over broke [17:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no ? [17:06]
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kakobrekla i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that [17:07]
kakobrekla go pick up trash [17:07]
mircea_popescu about 200mn of us citizens live in the fictitious world of bezzle. they never use cash for anything. about 50mn us citizens live in the real economy, they mostly use tide for currency, but at the fringe there's this exchange of people who work for the fictitious economy, [17:07]
asciilifeform the way it was explained to me, by one wretch, is that many folks who refuse to use ordinary banks do so because they were hounded by creditors (ordinary ones, and government alimony collectors) [17:07]
mircea_popescu but then try to obtain their wages in actual cash [17:07]
mircea_popescu nope. it's mostly because they are not part of that world. [17:07]
mircea_popescu like you know, some people don't wear dockers, because they're not social justice warriors, the women they fuck don't even know what dockers are, etc. [17:08]
asciilifeform how does using paper benjamins release you from bezzle? [17:08]
mircea_popescu it's not that it releases you from it, [17:08]
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mircea_popescu it's just that it makes no sense for you to keep virtual benjamins if you do nothing in the bezzle. [17:08]
mircea_popescu by now it's pretty much two different currencies. [17:09]
mircea_popescu the 401k-dollar and the cocaine-stained-dollar, [17:09]
mircea_popescu different entirely. [17:09]
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asciilifeform a little hard to buy a reel of 0805 resistors with paper hundies [17:09]
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mircea_popescu but that guy does not buy a reel of resistors. [17:09]
ThickAsThieves kakobrekla> i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that /// only in the broad sense, i wouldnt personally find that "worth doing" in my own values of what my time is worth [17:09]
mircea_popescu a little hard to buy what he buys with wot rating. [17:09]
ThickAsThieves not saying i'm "above" picking up trash, i have at times, just that it's not the right fit, nor taking advantage of any of my experience [17:10]
ThickAsThieves i guess i am saying i'me above it, i dunno [17:11]
mircea_popescu lol [17:11]
mircea_popescu that escalated quickly. [17:11]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: i've laid cable, for instance, to eat. [17:11]
ThickAsThieves well, sure, gotta do what you gotta do [17:12]
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kakobrekla i did a lot of stuff to eat [17:13]
ThickAsThieves let's not veer over a cliff here, this started mostly by pointing out that anyone who's well read in this space probably has something valuable to offer [17:13]
kakobrekla never had a job in my view. [17:13]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: if you're hard up for work, become a reverse engineer [17:13]
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ThickAsThieves i'm not hard up for work [17:13]
asciilifeform people have serious problems hiring any [17:13]
ThickAsThieves i am however having trouble choosing work [17:13]
mircea_popescu i guess im the only privileged asshole here, i never did anything to eat. [17:14]
mike_c i cooked and disposed of laboratory trash to pay for school. worst smell of my life. [17:15]
kakobrekla >Goat's posts are disappearing.. by whom? [17:18]
kakobrekla >>Probably deleted by himself because his user ID does not appear in the modlog (Ctrl + F "44233" without quotation marks). All deleted posts are still visible on though (this thread is 6 pages longer). [17:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the 401k-dollar and the cocaine-stained-dollar << nobody forces people to jump in chumpatron [17:18]
kakobrekla double lel. [17:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but yes they do. suppose you work for company x. [17:18]
mircea_popescu you can't instruct them to pay you in cash. [17:18]
asciilifeform in u.s. you can usually become 'contractor' and get your pay in whole, then you are required to pay the tax collectors manually [17:19]
mircea_popescu no, you can't. [17:19]
mircea_popescu if you become a contractor you will be paid by check [17:19]
mircea_popescu and that will be deposited in your bank account [17:19]
mircea_popescu and you can't take the cash out. [17:19]
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mircea_popescu on one hand because you are legally required to keep your money in the bank [17:20]
mircea_popescu on the other hand because you're not rlegally allowed to make withdrawals. [17:20]
ThickAsThieves i missed something, why can't someone withdraw their money? [17:20]
asciilifeform since when? every bank i ever used let you take it out. granted, if you take more than $xxxx in one day, the anti-terrorism folks get a phone call. [17:20]
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BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: I was unwaiverably ineligible, because crazy [17:20]
benkay another cuh-ray-zee aspect of the bezzle is the plastic rewards thing that makes cash more expensive. [17:20]
chetty well you can withdraw, but its not so easy etc. [17:21]
ThickAsThieves yes the $xxxx thing is a real throttle [17:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so then what part of "not allowed" don't you follow ? [17:21]
mircea_popescu you're allowed except you're not and if you do we fuck you up ? [17:21]
mircea_popescu let's run some scenarios. i am a contractor, working for you. you write me a check for 100k. [17:22]
mircea_popescu i go to bank, order them to pay me 100k. [17:22]
mircea_popescu they tell me they can't. [17:22]
mircea_popescu problem solved. [17:22]
mircea_popescu i order them to pay me 10k. [17:22]
mircea_popescu they tell me they can;t. [17:22]
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mircea_popescu problem also solved. [17:22]
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mircea_popescu they then proceed me to tell me that they can pay some, but can't tell me how much. [17:22]
ThickAsThieves you could do 9k per day without much fuss [17:23]
mircea_popescu if i hire someone to go take money out every day for a year, 300 bucks at a time, [17:23]
mircea_popescu and keep it at home, i'll be in violation of the "corps must keep their funds i na bank" rule. [17:23]
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mircea_popescu in any case any qty of cash will be confiscated by govt agents on sight [17:23]
mircea_popescu and on it goes. [17:23]
asciilifeform that last part, is, afaik, true [17:23]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the fuss will be that on the third time yo udo it your house will be confiscated, [17:23]
asciilifeform but there isn't an official 'humans must keep cash in a bank' rule atm. [17:24]
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ThickAsThieves hmm [17:24]
mircea_popescu pending you prove that you have a "legitimate reason" and in any case you face prosecution under the "trying to avoid prosecution for using your own money" laws. [17:24]
asciilifeform you are theoretically welcome to keep your pay in gold, or cement, so long as the tax was paid [17:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, but contractors aren't physical persons, they're legal persons, and that rule does exist. [17:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform very theoretically. in the sense you're theoretically welcome to shoot the president. [17:24]
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mircea_popescu so no, participation in the us chumpatron is voluntary in the sense participation in the communist party was voluntary. [17:25]
asciilifeform ok in that sense it is very true [17:25]
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jborkl [17:25]
ozbot Selling Sperm [17:25]
jborkl heh [17:26]
mircea_popescu lol. someone should point out to the sperm seller the precedent re paying for child support. [17:26]
asciilifeform one can still decide on the degree to which to play the chumpatron. no one is forced to buy 401k, yet. [17:26]
mircea_popescu yes, you are. [17:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013798 = 0.138 BTC [+] {3} [17:26]
mircea_popescu ever worked in an office asciilifeform ? [17:27]
ThickAsThieves it's shoved down your throat at least [17:27]
asciilifeform sure [17:27]
mircea_popescu suppose you work as an accountant, with six others. [17:27]
mircea_popescu suppose you're the only one who doesn't. [17:27]
ThickAsThieves so much so that your family advocates it endlessly too [17:27]
mircea_popescu suppose the yearly review mentions this point. [17:27]
mircea_popescu suppose someone has to be let go. [17:27]
benkay "but you're giving up free money!" [17:27]
asciilifeform if it's a corp that 'matches' 401k, and avaricious boss, he ought to fire the more expensive fellow (the one who opts in) ? [17:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the one who opts out is more expensive to him. [17:28]
mircea_popescu the matching gives him a tax break. [17:28]
mircea_popescu if he plans his budget, and you upset the planning, [17:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 675 @ 0.00048893 = 0.33 BTC [+] {5} [17:28]
mircea_popescu you may actually force him over a threshold, with results so far out of proportion he might as well just shoot you and bury you in hudson river. [17:29]
benkay thereby collecting the insurance policy he took out on you. [17:29]
asciilifeform not that this situation is impossible - but most large co.s have a third party run their chumpatronics [17:29]
mircea_popescu so ? [17:29]
asciilifeform so the fellow who is to fire you may not even know if you use 401k [17:29]
mircea_popescu third parties can also shoot you and bury you in the river. [17:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00587761 = 0.8816 BTC [-] {9} [17:29]
mircea_popescu hahaha. [17:30]
mircea_popescu what are you, from the 60s ? [17:30]
mircea_popescu they have like computers now and shit. [17:30]
asciilifeform once again, i can't say that this scenario is impossible. just that it includes an extraordinary level of 'personal attention' from bureaucrats who would normally rather play tetris [17:32]
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asciilifeform actually i can readily believe that exactly this would happen to, say, an executive salaried $1M [17:35]
asciilifeform if he were to demand his pay in something like money (even banked, electronic money, with all applicable tax paid) he might 'begin to have problems.' [17:36]
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VanCleef anyone know goats address i'd like to send him a bucket of sperm [17:36]
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thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe [17:37]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00094739 BTC [-] [17:37]
thestringpuller ;;google kanye power [17:37]
gribble Kanye West - POWER - YouTube: ; Kanye West - POWER [FULL ORIGINAL HQ SONG] - YouTube: ; Kanye West – Power Lyrics | Rap Genius: [17:37]
VanCleef oh dear [17:37]
artifexd suppose someone has to be let go. << Fire the person that sucks at their job [17:38]
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benkay note the damoclean sword in that video, thestringpuller ? [17:40]
BingoBoingo !last S.POWER [17:42]
assbot I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. [17:42]
VanCleef youknow whats funny about kanyewest his mom died from plastic surgery that he paid for lol [17:42]
VanCleef what a douche [17:42]
benkay comedy is when the bad guy dies [17:44]
benkay tragedy is when everyone dies [17:44]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [17:45]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar) [17:45]
thestringpuller XD enjoi your retirement old friend [17:45]
benkay Neil: why not reignite the discussion? [17:48]
mircea_popescu artifexd i suppose that's the one thing that has never happened yet. [17:49]
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benkay Neil: you neglected to mention that his odds are much longer than the house odds [17:49]
benkay and you also didn't tabulate and chart your claim, but that's neither here nor there. [17:50]
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VanCleef how is candy crush worth 500 million its just an app [17:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04501 = 0.3151 BTC [-] {2} [17:57]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, remember the tards from ? [17:58]
mircea_popescu yeah [17:58]
Apocalyptic seems they just played the "we got haxxed" part [17:58]
Apocalyptic [17:59]
ozbot Cryptorush BC shit (complete) - [17:59]
mircea_popescu awww! [17:59]
Apocalyptic much sooner than I expected tbh [17:59]
VanCleef dot com bubble 2.0 [18:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.32121462 BTC to 4`622 shares, 50221 satoshi per share [18:02]
Apocalyptic "[03:43] I built my exchange to work around the daemon's account feature for managing user trades and balances/deposits/withdraws [18:02]
Apocalyptic " [18:02]
Apocalyptic oh no this is too god [18:02]
Apocalyptic *good [18:02]
Apocalyptic it's well known that even bitcoin's account are completely buggy and broken [18:03]
Mats_cd03 if someone hosts the so-called bitcoin educational page, ill help populate it with materials [18:03]
Apocalyptic or was until 0.9 anyway, Gavin claims to have fixed it [18:04]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 well lampelina will, i gather. [18:04]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic maybe drop a link to the article ? [18:04]
mircea_popescu or what channel is this ? [18:04]
Apocalyptic i think it's #cryptorush, i'm not in that channel though [18:04]
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VanCleef ;google [18:07]
VanCleef ;;google [18:07]
gribble - About Us: ; - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Remember Tech IPOs have a dismal ... - CNN Money: [18:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.07386573 = 7.3866 BTC [+] {8} [18:07]
Mats_cd03 [03:45] which basically, I dont knpow how, but it gave users too many coins (too many being an extra 21 million in total) [18:08]
mircea_popescu i left them a link, should manage on their own. [18:08]
Mats_cd03 i bet this individual doesnt know the difference between signed and unsigned integers [18:08]
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padishah_emperor what bitcoin stocks should I put money into ? [18:10]
benkay vircurex [18:10]
mike_c fyrstikken sounds familiar. what exchange does he run? [18:10]
padishah_emperor coinrush [18:10]
padishah_emperor ? [18:10]
benkay padishah_emperor: basically zero stocks have outperformed holding btc. [18:10]
benkay there are some notable exceptions, but they're not popular. [18:10]
mike_c oh, derp. he is one of the three amigos from coinrush. [18:10]
VanCleef you're better off holding coin [18:11]
mike_c er, cryptorush [18:11]
padishah_emperor benkay: ok thanks, thought so [18:11]
mike_c padishah_emperor: he was kidding. they are insolvent. [18:11]
mike_c geez. i am an idiot today. ignore that. [18:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6297 @ 0.00094853 = 5.9729 BTC [+] {2} [18:12]
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mircea_popescu benkay orly ? [18:13]
Mats_cd03 padishah_emperor: ? [18:13]
Mats_cd03 benkay mp is about to brag about mpoe just give it a second [18:14]
benkay well with a softball pitch like that why wouldn't he [18:15]
benkay if padishah_emperor hasn't found mpoe on his/her own... [18:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.055 = 0.275 BTC [-] [18:15]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 what is this mpoe you speak of. [18:17]
padishah_emperor mircea [18:17]
padishah_emperor do you want my money ? [18:17]
mircea_popescu notrly. [18:18]
padishah_emperor oh [18:18]
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padishah_emperor mircea any advice on where I _should_ throw my money? [18:19]
mircea_popescu mnope. who are you anyway ? [18:20]
padishah_emperor just a guy with money [18:20]
mircea_popescu well then you should hold on to it and spend a year or so reading. [18:20]
mircea_popescu the log is in the topic. [18:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07399999 = 0.148 BTC [+] [18:20]
padishah_emperor but time is money, friend [18:21]
mircea_popescu exactly. spend your time so you may keep your money. [18:21]
padishah_emperor i have lots of money but not much time :( [18:21]
mircea_popescu vacation is in order. [18:22]
BingoBoingo I hear Transnidstria is a beautiful place [18:22]
asciilifeform lol! [18:23]
mircea_popescu nah [18:23]
mircea_popescu it's a sort of "shity strip of new jerseu" [18:23]
mircea_popescu s/u/y [18:23]
asciilifeform someone needs to start a 'war vacation' agency [18:23]
padishah_emperor my father was from moldova [18:24]
asciilifeform basic training for extra cost [18:24]
padishah_emperor romanian [18:24]
VanCleef buy more time [18:24]
padishah_emperor mircea i think whether you like it or not you're getting my money [18:25]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: [18:26]
VanCleef buy some candrycrush shares [18:26]
BingoBoingo "The freedom fighters are poorly-funded, and thus are sourcing money via war tourism, inviting wealthy foreigners to join their ranks for the thrills and experience." [18:26]
thestringpuller "if you're getting bitcoin throw it in the air. bitcoin-assets, the hustler's lair." [18:26]
Mats_cd03 your negro vernacular is lacking, thestringpuller [18:27]
thestringpuller COME AT ME BRO [18:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if this business actually existed, it couldn't rely on 'naturally-occurring' wars. [18:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it would need to set up a reliable one. by shipping clients to both 'sides' [18:27]
padishah_emperor honestly guys I made ~680-90k aud on fucking dogecoin [18:28]
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padishah_emperor so i have less aprreciation for money [18:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course. [18:28]
padishah_emperor and more for absurdist theatre [18:28]
padishah_emperor so I'm beyond it... [18:28]
VanCleef i believe your honesty [18:28]
BingoBoingo padishah_emperor: Maybe choose a side here? [18:28]
bounce so now we have a bunch that did their own coind and customer funds went AWOL. and a bunch that used the reference client and customer funds went AWOL. now, digital finance is unforgiving, but I'll say that it's not purely operator error in a hostile environment; looks like the machinery is dangerous too. [18:29]
asciilifeform bounce: 'reference client hacked' is 'extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence' [18:29]
asciilifeform bounce: not because the thing isn't a turd - it is - but it is then necessary to explain why other people's coins have stayed put. [18:30]
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BingoBoingo bounce: They used "features" that weren't really implemented [18:31]
bounce well, yes, but that's not really the point. the reference client perhaps shouldn't be filled with interfaces that don't work very well. [18:32]
benkay talk to the 'core dev team' about that. [18:33]
BingoBoingo Well, use version 0.4-0.6 [18:33]
BingoBoingo With the config change to raise the DB locks [18:33]
Mats_cd03 The Black Keys single [18:33]
asciilifeform reference client perhaps shouldn't be filled with interfaces that don't work << not everything in the kitchen is food. rat poison is not a condiment [18:33]
bounce oh, so the core devs are at it deliberately [18:34]
asciilifeform from whom is this a secret [18:34]
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VanCleef [18:35]
ozbot Tulip Mania: The First Bubble [Debt & Doubt - Animation 6] - YouTube [18:35]
bounce bit of a problem then that from the outside you can't see just how the exchange's innards pick their condiments [18:35]
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mircea_popescu well, yes, but that's not really the point. the reference client perhaps shouldn't be filled with interfaces that don't work very well. <<< definitely. [18:55]
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FabianB has it been discussed yet why Huobi is paying ppl that were just too foolish to market sell into a too shallow order book? [19:07]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [19:08]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.5, Best ask: 586.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 586.29, 24 hour volume: 11784.29834825, 24 hour low: 565.0, 24 hour high: 592.0, 24 hour vwap: 580.322827357 [19:08]
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asciilifeform << somebody needs a new shannonizer. this one's sputtering. [19:11]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: potential sequel to your cesar cipher essay: [19:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: [19:14]
asciilifeform somehow this is all very reminiscent of folks disenchanted with the american medical establishment switching to snake oils, faith healing [19:15]
Mats_cd03 benkay: leviathan wakes isnt bad, im ~100 pages through [19:16]
benkay i lost several nights of sleep to that book [19:21]
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asciilifeform [19:24]
ozbot Russia Gets Ready for Life Without Visa and MasterCard - Businessweek [19:24]
ThickAsThieves it's interesting to think how regulation has actually created a situation where investors can be totally removed from any interest in the company they effectively funded [19:24]
ozbot Oculus rises to a $2B exit while its Kickstarter backers are left with cheap swag | PandoDaily [19:24]
ThickAsThieves oculus gets $2m to create their thing, sells out for $2b [19:25]
ThickAsThieves investors get a gizmo [19:25]
benkay i thought that was the whole point of kickstarter. [19:25]
ThickAsThieves this event puts it into real perspective though [19:26]
Duffer1 i believe that's more an effect of a consumer mindset rather than a common sense mindset that would naturally want equity instead of swag [19:26]
ThickAsThieves sure, all the investors know what they got into [19:26]
benkay yeah but fartup equity is usually worth zero anyways [19:26]
ThickAsThieves and can only expect their gizmo [19:26]
benkay a toss up as to which is better value: likely worthless paper vs. entertaining gizmo [19:26]
benkay either way you get the fartup feels [19:26]
ThickAsThieves but if Oculos were allowed to actually crowdfund for equity investors, the odds are thats what they would have done instead [19:27]
ThickAsThieves Oculus* [19:27]
VanCleef with the money that oculoss made with fb they hsould pay back the kickstarter peeps [19:27]
Duffer1 aren't they allowed already through a DPO? [19:27]
ThickAsThieves VanCleef, while that would be "nice" i see no reason they should [19:28]
VanCleef but yeh anyway another terrible buy from fb [19:28]
ThickAsThieves possibly [19:28]
pankkake them being bought by facebook make them unlikely to deliver the advertised product [19:28]
ThickAsThieves i agree that Facebook does not seem agile anough to imitate what google does [19:29]
Duffer1 or deliver it on Facebook's terms [19:29]
ThickAsThieves enough& [19:29]
ThickAsThieves but it is still the only hope they have to survive [19:29]
ThickAsThieves to branch out [19:29]
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Duffer1 also the sequels to Leviathan Wakes were pretty disappointing imo [19:30]
ThickAsThieves i dont see how socilmedia-izing the Rift will help [19:30]
ThickAsThieves i'm typing like a champ today... [19:30]
Duffer1 maybe they want to offer a vr platform for minigame devs? [19:31]
VanCleef so on kickstarter are you allowed to sell equity into yourprivate company or nah? [19:31]
Duffer1 nope [19:31]
Duffer1 er not that i'm aware of [19:31]
ThickAsThieves there are new laws on the table in the JOBS act I believe [19:32]
ThickAsThieves to allow for such [19:32]
ThickAsThieves but they are tabled or something [19:32]
VanCleef mmmk [19:32]
VanCleef that would be cool [19:32]
VanCleef id probably invest in things on kickstarter [19:32]
VanCleef if that were da case [19:32]
ThickAsThieves Candy Crush IPO opens at 10% under offer price [19:33]
Duffer1 hehe [19:33]
VanCleef yeh that candy crush ipo is a joke [19:33]
VanCleef dotcom bubble 2.0 [19:34]
Diablo-D3 you know whats funny? [19:34]
Diablo-D3 no one in here [19:34]
Diablo-D3 can actually afford to do business with me [19:34]
ThickAsThieves ... [19:34]
ThickAsThieves you can say that again [19:34]
ThickAsThieves ! [19:34]
VanCleef i think these are signs that market is topping and everything over valued bubbles etc and could see a decent crash this year [19:35]
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ThickAsThieves hard to say [19:35]
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ThickAsThieves inflation fucks up valuations for stocks [19:36]
VanCleef we're definitely in a bailout bubble atm [19:36]
Mats_cd03 wouldnt be the first time someone said that [19:37]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol the saga of bad crypto never ends does it. [19:41]
mircea_popescu FabianB nope. link ? [19:41]
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FabianB mircea_popescu: [19:43]
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mircea_popescu heh [19:43]
VanCleef [19:43]
ozbot Overdose: The Next Financial Crisis - YouTube [19:43]
FabianB "Huobi agreed to make its customers whole again at 70 RMB ($11.29) per LTC for anyone who sold below that level." [19:43]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves somehow this discussion is a strange rehash of the older "platinum records / musical talent" thing. [19:44]
mircea_popescu a large part of the entire "start-up success" fantasy by now is specifically NOT having any sort of technical merit or actual value [19:44]
mircea_popescu much like a singer won't win if they're good. they must suck to win, in order to "represent" the idiots watching at home. [19:44]
FabianB just wondered whether i got something wrong or if they really pay their stupidest users [19:45]
mircea_popescu FabianB i would suppose they're taking the opposite tack to the now-famous "fuck you and read" [19:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0541 = 0.3787 BTC [-] {3} [19:47]
mircea_popescu plenty of people trying to make a career out of doing the wrong thing. [19:47]
FabianB seems like [19:47]
ThickAsThieves i'm having trouble understanding this huobi thing [19:47]
ThickAsThieves how did people get negative balances? why are they refunding people in cash? [19:48]
ThickAsThieves etc [19:48]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins` maybe tshirts with "A loser is You!" [19:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:48]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves because it's broken ? i dunno, just my guess. [19:48]
VanCleef i blame Mark Karpelass [19:49]
FabianB ThickAsThieves: looks like you can margin trade on huobi [19:50]
ThickAsThieves ah [19:50]
ThickAsThieves most retarded headline of the week: Poll: 48% of Americans understand bitcoin but most still prefer gold - See more at: [19:51]
ThickAsThieves 48% of americans surely do not own gold [19:52]
ThickAsThieves surely dont understand bitcoin either [19:52]
mircea_popescu "please believe us when we say the shit we sell you is worth buying" [19:52]
mircea_popescu "we have a poll to prove it" [19:52]
ThickAsThieves lol, in the recommended links on the same page: [19:52]
ThickAsThieves Poll: 76% of Americans never heard of bitcoin, 79% would never own one [19:53]
benkay 99% will never own one. [19:53]
benkay "We! Are! The 99%!" [19:53]
ThickAsThieves the numbers, they have a mind of their own! [19:53]
ThickAsThieves socially transmitted diseases [19:54]
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VanCleef Putin approval rating is higher in American than Obama [19:54]
ThickAsThieves obama better hit the gym [19:54]
asciilifeform VanCleef: afaik this has been the case for years. [19:54]
asciilifeform VanCleef: same poll as 'bedbugs have higher approval rating than senate,' etc. [19:55]
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ThickAsThieves "Congress to consider banning online gambling" [19:55]
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ThickAsThieves when will they ban Twitter? [19:55]
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VanCleef america should just ban the internet [19:56]
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mircea_popescu lol. 75% of all statistics are made up [19:56]
VanCleef fact: a woman in Afganistan has more freedoms than a male in America. [19:58]
dhenson fact: soon, China will be the #1 english speaking country in the world. [19:59]
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Mats_cd03 thats dubious, have you ever interacted with chinese speakers that learned ESL? [20:00]
Mats_cd03 their ESL programs are horrible [20:00]
Mats_cd03 english speaking is a reach [20:00]
dhenson They would only need 1 in 3 to speak english. With all of the american tv programming, I could believe it. [20:01]
asciilifeform in antarctica, even more freedom. [20:01]
Mats_cd03 lol 'only' [20:01]
dhenson A friend of mine's wife was arrested for assault, so not sure that's known by my local police if true. [20:02]
dhenson Of course, she did run over him with the car. [20:02]
dhenson (back tire) [20:02]
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dhenson Nah, she was driving away and bumped the car into him and ran over his foot. just assault [20:03]
dhenson Bumping into him was, she claimed running over his foot wasn't. Not sure what she thought was going to happen. [20:04]
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mircea_popescu uh [20:07]
mircea_popescu well, depends what your standards for "speaking english" are. [20:07]
mircea_popescu most us citizens don't speak english worth a crap. [20:08]
asciilifeform 'english as she is spoke' [20:08]
asciilifeform ;;google english as she is spoke [20:09]
gribble English As She Is Spoke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; English as she is spoke by Pedro Carolino and José da Fonseca ...: ; English As She Is Spoke vs. Babelfish!: [20:09]
dhenson At what point is it going to stop being called 'English'? Referring to the divergant language in parts of the US (south especially). [20:09]
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dhenson [20:10]
ozbot Southpark - They Took Our Job - YouTube [20:10]
mircea_popescu at no point. [20:10]
asciilifeform well, in afghanistan, a hill tribe 10km from another such may or may not understand the speech. but to us, they both speak pashto [20:11]
asciilifeform standardized language is a 'luxury of civilization', like your mains socket [20:12]
asciilifeform it doesn't happen automagically. [20:12]
ThickAsThieves it's already split, English (American) [20:12]
ThickAsThieves in most software at leats [20:12]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: software people writing 'spell checker' mostly understand this to mean just the websterian reform, where they snipped the 'u' from 'colour', etc. [20:13]
mircea_popescu ^ [20:13]
mircea_popescu and turned s to z in a bunch of continuous forms [20:13]
ThickAsThieves and change s to z [20:13]
ThickAsThieves bleh [20:13]
mircea_popescu yay i got one [20:13]
asciilifeform 'advertize' [20:14]
mircea_popescu martinizing and advertizing [20:14]
the20year3 which is how it should be [20:14]
mircea_popescu the contributions of the us to englidsh [20:14]
ThickAsThieves z sounds more like s than s does! [20:14]
asciilifeform relevant: [20:14]
asciilifeform (herr orlov's crackpot crusade) [20:14]
the20year3 utilization of the letter so it doesn't become obsolete [20:14]
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ThickAsThieves it'll always have zebra! [20:16]
ThickAsThieves may one day it overcomes x too [20:16]
ThickAsThieves zylophone [20:16]
mircea_popescu and zylophone [20:16]
ThickAsThieves bam! [20:16]
mircea_popescu hahah [20:16]
ThickAsThieves the hive mind is improving [20:17]
asciilifeform [20:17]
ozbot Project Unspell: What does one need to know in order to read English? [20:17]
asciilifeform [20:17]
ozbot Project Unspell: Why doesn't it use the Latin alphabet? [20:17]
asciilifeform etc [20:18]
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mircea_popescu "Nobody likes you, generally speaking, and the presumptuous, misguided sort of nonsense I'm responding to here is a prime example of why. Romania is a large country, populated by a lot of distinct Internet users. Comparatively, wikipedia is a small shithole populated by a lot of indistinguishable idiots. Please stop getting into everyone's day." [20:18]
mircea_popescu dude who the fuck is trolling wikipedia to this insane degree [20:18]
mircea_popescu i wish to give him some atc [20:19]
ThickAsThieves has he actually taught anyone the language and studied if it isn;t worse for being so stripped down? [20:19]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: his son [20:19]
ThickAsThieves distinctive letters make text easier to scan, no? [20:19]
asciilifeform correct [20:20]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's more complicated than just that. [20:20]
ThickAsThieves surely [20:20]
mircea_popescu good simple rulesets also make text easier to scan [20:20]
mircea_popescu exceptions tho apparently have their own advantages [20:20]
mircea_popescu there's no consensus of what makes a better language, other than edge cases such as ergativity [20:20]
mircea_popescu ( ie ) [20:21]
asciilifeform there is plenty of data on what makes for a terrible one, though. [20:21]
mircea_popescu exactly. [20:21]
dhenson regardless of the validity of the investment, that Rockminer IPO was crazy last night... 13 seconds. [20:26]
* mircea_popescu remembers the days of bitvps ipo... [20:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07050001 = 0.3525 BTC [-] [20:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00283 = 0.1415 BTC [+] [20:30]
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BingoBoingo [20:32]
ozbot Charlotte Mayor Patrick Cannon arrested on corruption charges | [20:32]
benkay what happened, dhenson? [20:32]
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dhenson They opened up 3750 shares for a public IPO at noon china time and they all sold in 13 seconds. [20:32]
dhenson 15k shares pre-sold in blocks of 2000+ before the public IPO so they sold out before most people had a chance to buy in. [20:33]
benkay this is on which sexchange? [20:33]
dhenson not an exchange, direct btc deposit to their IPO btc address. [20:34]
dhenson direct shares [20:34]
mircea_popescu o hey, like the 2012 mpoe ipo [20:35]
dhenson I wasn't around for that. In what way, the speed, or the nature of the direct purchase? [20:35]
dhenson @benkay here is the results of the 13 second IPO [20:38]
benkay dhenson: no trading of shares? [20:38]
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benkay bitcoin-assets: is a lockup like this auto-scam? [20:39]
dhenson not yet, they are going to build a UI just for trading their shares. [20:39]
dhenson ...ala activemining [20:40]
benkay footsteps of giants... [20:40]
Mats_cd03 brilliant, really [20:42]
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Apocalyptic not yet, they are going to build a UI just for trading their shares. << classic [20:42]
benkay mpoe trades on mpex so mp can manip [20:43]
benkay why not asicminer? [20:43]
benkay why not rockminer? [20:43]
mircea_popescu dhenson in the manner. [20:44]
mircea_popescu [20:44]
ozbot Sa ne jucam de-a investitiile-n bitcoini. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:44]
mircea_popescu it's there. [20:44]
ThickAsThieves i personally find the rockminer thing to be rather shady [20:44]
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ThickAsThieves he's essentially taking over what was supposed to be something AM does, which isnt horrible per se, sure AM wants to sell chips only, but why does he need all that money? [20:46]
ThickAsThieves he's been doing this for a while already right? [20:46]
ThickAsThieves if he is on the AM board, how is a fair price determined [20:46]
benkay !t h rent [20:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.00532656 / 0.00562810 (207 shares, 1.10259731 BTC), 7D: 0.00520780 / 0.00542561 / 0.00567280 (2368 shares, 12.84784637 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00555954 / 0.00900001 (49167 shares, 273.34604977 BTC) [20:46]
ThickAsThieves bewteen companies [20:46]
ThickAsThieves so you buy RM shares and then slowly get your money back via AM divs? [20:47]
ThickAsThieves etc [20:47]
ThickAsThieves i dont see why theyd sell shares other than to push loss onto the shareholders [20:48]
mircea_popescu oh it's one of those ? [20:48]
ThickAsThieves is it more than a PMB? is it any less exposed to diff increase than other mining? [20:49]
ThickAsThieves i dunno [20:49]
dhenson I agree TaT it seems shady to me as well... especially if AM ends up not mining anymore. [20:50]
ThickAsThieves will diff calm down this year? [20:50]
ThickAsThieves like AM has been mining of any note anyway... [20:50]
dhenson But with new chips... everyone assumed they would. [20:50]
TomServo .d [20:50]
ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1732 blocks | Estimated Change: 9.3513% in 10d 21h 32m 56s [20:50]
ThickAsThieves they would only mine themselves if it were more profitable than selling [20:51]
dhenson You'd think mining would be more profitable than $1/GH [20:51]
ThickAsThieves that situation only exists if diff growth flatlines right? [20:51]
mircea_popescu maybe [20:51]
ThickAsThieves i guess exchange rate is important too [20:52]
dhenson Makes me wonder if FC is one of the private investors with a portion of the 60k private shares. [20:52]
ThickAsThieves if not, other board members are likely to be [20:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07287978 = 0.1458 BTC [+] [20:53]
ThickAsThieves [20:53]
ozbot A Precaution on Vanity Addresses | Blockchain Blog [20:53]
ThickAsThieves how long before it leaks? [20:55]
ozbot Wu-Tang Clan will only sell a single copy of their new album | The Verge [20:55]
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benkay the girl is over her sickness [20:58]
benkay the apartment will now get cleaned [20:58]
benkay *fist pumps* [20:58]
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Mats_cd03 it is absolutely a money grab [21:01]
Mats_cd03 the bottom is going to fall out at some point [21:01]
Mats_cd03 you heard it here first [21:01]
dhenson So basically RM+AM = OLD AM? [21:03]
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mircea_popescu so basically a rehash of the old "pirate pass through" scam [21:03]
mircea_popescu trying to push the looming hole on newbie "investors" [21:04]
mircea_popescu where's the overlord-padishah-grandking or w/e his name was [21:04]
Mats_cd03 > padishah_emperor [21:04]
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mircea_popescu what's the story here ? [21:14]
ozbot BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014 [21:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00281999 = 0.2284 BTC [+] [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07288121 = 1.1661 BTC [+] {4} [21:17]
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pankkake It is rare for a startup to admit it isn’t going to work out, and give some cash back to investors. […] A great application of prediction markets is to give better and clearer warnings of upcoming failure, to enable better mitigation, such as quitting. [21:26]
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mircea_popescu pankkake definitely. [21:30]
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ThickAsThieves "Male university students in North Korea must get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, reports say." [21:43]
ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats [21:45]
gribble Current Blocks: 292609 | Current Difficulty: 5.0068605892054E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 294335 | Next Difficulty In: 1726 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5498440775.59 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.81813 [21:45]
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TomServo Either I forgot how to read a graph or gribble and ozbots' diff stats don't match sipa. What am I doing wrong? [21:50]
ThickAsThieves gribble uses strictly data since last change [21:51]
ThickAsThieves unless you use ;;estimate [21:51]
ThickAsThieves which will also give data based on last 3 days [21:51]
ThickAsThieves the differences are all likely in the chosen sample ranges [21:52]
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ThickAsThieves "TSA recommends airports use armed guards during peak hours" [21:52]
ThickAsThieves so much work, just shoot em if youre fed up [21:52]
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mike_c what, the tsa is going to repel an armed attack on the airport? please. [21:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11620 @ 0.00094474 = 10.9779 BTC [-] [22:02]
mircea_popescu TomServo nothing matches. [22:04]
mircea_popescu mike_c no, but they may accidentally shoot some grannies... [22:04]
mircea_popescu i think the us is optimised for involuntary humour these days. [22:05]
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mircea_popescu "We accept most international and local credit and debit cards as well as PayPal. Flattr use Euro as its base currency, but it doesn’t matter what currency you use, we take care of the exchange." [22:06]
mircea_popescu o look at that. there's some sort of fiat competition to bitcoin etc. [22:06]
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bitcoinpete [22:17]
bitcoinpete "Circle is one of the first companies built from the ground up to provide financial products for consumers that harness the power of Bitcoin to enable faster transactions, lower costs, greater privacy safeguards and increased protection against fraud and identity theft while enabling more frictionless global economic activity and cross-border transactions. The company’s forthcoming products, which entered limited availability release today, [22:18]
bitcoinpete promise to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency easily, reducing much of the friction and risk that is currently associated with Bitcoin." [22:18]
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bitcoinpete More VC noise [22:18]
benkay "to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency safe in the knowledge that their governments will be able to know everything about our customers without resorting to thermorectal cryptanalysis." [22:20]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete by now i can't separate the "from the ground up" automatism from the earlier linked retards. [22:21]
bitcoinpete experience in complying with high-level bureaucrats must count for something [22:23]
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mircea_popescu hm. [22:25]
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mircea_popescu if that were true most wikipedia editors would not be unemployed. [22:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.046 = 0.23 BTC [+] [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0559 = 0.2795 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00281 = 0.267 BTC [-] [22:27]
bitcoinpete i thought they wiki authors were retired or semi-retired, like many here [22:28]
bitcoinpete *the [22:29]
mike_c who in here is retired? [22:29]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: [22:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.046 = 0.276 BTC [+] {2} [22:29]
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mircea_popescu i used to be retired [22:30]
mircea_popescu but i retired from it. [22:30]
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bitcoinpete mike_c: surely there are those who don't have to work anymore, but choose to. i call that retired [22:30]
bitcoinpete i tried it as well. lasted about 2 weeks [22:31]
asciilifeform i think we have multiple 'weight classes' represented here. [22:31]
bitcoinpete boredom took hold [22:31]
mike_c i don't call running a 1m btc business retired, regardless of motivations. [22:32]
bitcoinpete asciilifeform: well there are at least 4 layers [22:32]
asciilifeform perhaps 5 if you count the vagrants [22:32]
BingoBoingo Prolly six if you count the people who aspire to be the vagrants [22:33]
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asciilifeform who aspires to be vagrant? [22:33]
mircea_popescu mike_c i spent ~5 years or so in a tropical paradise doing... nothing. [22:33]
TestingUnoDosTre Nice... I'm getting bumped up to a vagrant? [22:33]
thestringpuller so mircea_popescu you are retired from being retired? so technically that would still make you retired? [22:34]
mircea_popescu would it ? [22:34]
TestingUnoDosTre no [22:34]
mircea_popescu i dunno how these nominalist things work. [22:34]
asciilifeform 'retired' isn't a weight class. [22:34]
thestringpuller you are a retired retiree [22:34]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: 5?! that's dedication [22:34]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I imagine there must be still more destitute than the vagrants [22:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] [22:36]
mircea_popescu prolly an overstatement, more like 3 [22:36]
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bitcoinpete still lots of time for literature [22:36]
asciilifeform ok let's try this. bottom: penniless urchin hounded by creditors. next: penniless urchin, or child, with zero net worth. [22:36]
the20year3 Got the little cottage rented out, joy [22:36]
asciilifeform next: wretch who works a full shift with no internet connection... [22:37]
mircea_popescu urchin has creditors ? how ? [22:37]
asciilifeform next: lowly engineer (yours truly) [22:37]
asciilifeform next: elderly engineer or businessman with serious income, but mortgaged up the gills [22:38]
bitcoinpete [22:38]
ozbot Advice From The Youngest Self-Made Female Billionaire in History | [22:38]
mircea_popescu uh [22:38]
asciilifeform next: man of leisure, but bound to the land [22:39]
asciilifeform next: international man of leisure (mr p) [22:39]
bitcoinpete Highlights: 5) Hire people you like and trust >> Sounds like WoT to me. 7) You CAN figure it out – you have the ability.>> Right... [22:39]
mircea_popescu spax is not worth 1bn, and she doesn't own it all. wtf. [22:39]
bitcoinpete hirarious [22:39]
mircea_popescu dude chick's 40 and still running the gauntlet [22:40]
mircea_popescu [22:40]
mircea_popescu sucks. [22:40]
asciilifeform 'penniless urchin hounded by creditors' may be an anglo-world only phenomenon [22:41]
asciilifeform cross off where not applicable. [22:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean like, a dual php/grad student with no assets ? [22:41]
asciilifeform (perhaps it should be considered a sub-variety of medieval serf) [22:41]
TestingUnoDosTre wait wait wait. How is a lowly engineer below an elderly engineer or businessman that's mortgaged up to the gills [22:41]
mircea_popescu ^ [22:42]
mircea_popescu i agree, those two also seem reversed. [22:42]
asciilifeform the elderly engineer could take his next few salary cheques and run [22:42]
asciilifeform theoretically. [22:42]
mircea_popescu the kid could run as is [22:42]
mircea_popescu much less theoretical. [22:42]
asciilifeform if the kid could 'breathe vacuum', he would probably have run already. [22:42]
mircea_popescu kids CAN breathe vacuum [22:42]
mircea_popescu that they think they can't is what keeps society in order [22:43]
rithm i'm so confused right now [22:43]
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mircea_popescu rithm most notable side effect of this chan [22:43]
asciilifeform 'iso-standard' penniless kid typically relies on various social connections (blood relatives, chums) for survival [22:43]
rithm true dat [22:43]
mircea_popescu also known as [22:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform easier to do in better countries [22:44]
mircea_popescu (which in this context means, non-anglo-saxon) [22:44]
rithm WHAT IN THE FUCK CAPS LOCK OH shit kids can't breathe in a vaccuum they turn dead [22:44]
mircea_popescu metaphorical kids, metaphorical vacuum, metaphorical breathing. [22:44]
asciilifeform rithm: understand 'breathe vacuum' as 'steal enough for a plane ticket and move to afghanistan' [22:45]
rithm if you had a jar and closed and sucked all of the air out [22:45]
rithm and you would call that a vacuum [22:45]
rithm but I would say nothing separates the jar [22:45]
mircea_popescu rithm if you took the average 16yo and paradroped them naked anywhere in the world, [22:45]
mircea_popescu they would live to be 18. [22:45]
mircea_popescu if you took the average 60 yo and paradropped them naked anywhere in the world, they would not live to be 65. [22:45]
rithm you give them 2 years [22:45]
rithm after being naked and alone [22:45]
rithm that's too many [22:46]
asciilifeform phun phact. every lab that uses mice has glue traps. [22:46]
mircea_popescu naked teenagers aren';t alone for long. [22:46]
TestingUnoDosTre I thought the quote was because people tend to speak here before thinking... [22:46]
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asciilifeform and ~100% of dropped mice end in them [22:46]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre it's more of a +iq effect. just being here makes one smarter. [22:46]
rithm if the teenagers find drugs or soul crushing rules to live by they might make it [22:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: picture moving an average (male) u.s. suburban kid to... anywhere [22:46]
rithm the old people similarly will need drugs to survive [22:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform he'll be fine. [22:47]
mircea_popescu just cry like a little bitch for a coupla weeks. [22:47]
mircea_popescu byt the time he's 50 however... he can no longer be fine. no matter what. [22:47]
mircea_popescu in this sense, i would say heroin addiction is a fine analogue. [22:47]
asciilifeform orlov had a neat piece on soviet 50yo middle manager suicides [22:47]
mircea_popescu the six months old chipper != the ten year old user. [22:48]
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TestingUnoDosTre I tried looking for this orlov piece and all I could find is an entire Russian family that runs back 300 years, and some hockey player [22:56]
asciilifeform TestingUnoDosTre: [22:56]
asciilifeform TestingUnoDosTre: 'post-soviet lessons for post-american century' [22:57]
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TestingUnoDosTre Is this a better written form of that slide presentation someone posted yesterday? [23:00]
asciilifeform yes [23:00]
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ozbot Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century [23:00]
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TestingUnoDosTre found it, thanks [23:03]
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TestingUnoDosTre Speaking of oil, anyone know who places that bet about january 15 oil futures? [23:05]
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mircea_popescu iirc bitbet had sometrhing re wti [23:06]
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TestingUnoDosTre that's what my question was: do you know who placed it? [23:07]
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mircea_popescu nope. [23:10]
benkay kinda one of the features of bitbet, TestingUnoDosTre [23:11]
benkay the po [23:11]
benkay [23:11]
ozbot A Business Idea | Chateau Heartiste [23:11]
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mircea_popescu that domain is familiar [23:12]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: famous in the 'moldbug' set [23:13]
mircea_popescu nah i only heard of modlbug... hm. through you i tihnk [23:13]
mircea_popescu to my head he's very recent [23:13]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: linked to me once, a few years ago, describing as 'the moldbug of computing.' not sure if complement or curse. [23:14]
mircea_popescu hm [23:14]
asciilifeform he's one of the folks who write guides for axenic mice on how to emulate having an immune system. [23:14]
asciilifeform ;;google manosphere [23:14]
gribble Viva La Manosphere! - Now updated hourly: ; Manosphere - Return Of Kings: ; Manosphere | Know Your Meme: [23:14]
mircea_popescu oh, is this some dood from the pua scene ? [23:14]
asciilifeform right [23:15]
asciilifeform moldbug isn't exactly recent (circa '07, afaik) [23:15]
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asciilifeform when he mostly quit writing, his stuff was picked up and 'digested' by various people [23:16]
asciilifeform and 'popularized' [23:16]
mircea_popescu must be someone i mocked at some point but i don't recall specifics [23:16]
mircea_popescu (the heartiste thing i mean) [23:16]
asciilifeform it's mockable, but you gotta understand where it came from [23:17]
asciilifeform ;;google scanners live in vain [23:17]
gribble Scanners Live in Vain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Scanners Live In Vain : Cordwainer Smith : Free Download ...: ; Literature/Scanners Live in Vain - Television Tropes & Idioms: [23:17]
asciilifeform it's interesting how, after many years of talmudic sophistry, the 'pua' folks arrived at their current technological state of the art: buying a plane ticket out of the u.s. [23:18]
mircea_popescu generally mockery is distinct from execution. [23:19]
mircea_popescu i don't mock with an intent to murder. [23:19]
dignork asciilifeform, btw thank you for refernce to moldbug, his texts are pretty amusing [23:20]
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BingoBoingo ;;google trilema heartiste [23:31]
gribble Ideological Space - Outside in: ; Is Game Making Women Overconfident? - Roosh V: ; 'Outreach' Open Thread | Handle's Haus: [23:31]
BingoBoingo I'll dig up the Trilema article [23:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you sure you read it there ? [23:34]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I know you mocked it and linked it. [23:34]
BingoBoingo I think it was fall 2013? [23:34]
mircea_popescu aha! [23:34]
mircea_popescu so i'm not entirely deluded here. [23:34]
BingoBoingo Maybe a simple minded psychopath, but damned if you are deluded [23:36]
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mircea_popescu lol [23:36]
moiety hihi [23:37]
moiety MOTD (manul of the day) [23:37]
moiety that needs photoshopped into something immense [23:37]
TestingUnoDosTre what is pua? [23:40]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: [23:44]
mircea_popescu o hey good catch [23:45]
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mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre pick up artistry [23:45]
TestingUnoDosTre hmph. That's what I got from das google, but thought it somehow didn't fit [23:46]
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