Forum logs for 26 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	ben_vulpes, mod6, jurov: anyone try 'doxygen' proggy for therealbitcoin source ?	[00:00]
asciilifeform	https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/walletmodel_8h_source.html << example, in use by enemy	[00:01]
assbot	Bitcoin: src/qt/walletmodel.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7aGb8 )	[00:01]
asciilifeform	it's a somewhat spiffier incarnation of jurov's thing at http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source	[00:02]
assbot	Satoshi 0.5.3.1/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7aJE2 )	[00:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00040489 = 17.3293 BTC [+]	[00:06]
asciilifeform	https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/469.pdf << fairly lulzy article. describes method of running arbitrarily many bitcoind on one box, simulated planet.	[00:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1e7bo8m )	[00:10]
punkman	I was just thinking about that	[00:10]
asciilifeform	specifically was done to simulate orphan spam.	[00:10]
asciilifeform	~6000 sim nodes	[00:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00040808 = 10.9774 BTC [+] {2}	[00:11]
punkman	I'd definitely want better debug/test instrumentation before such experiments	[00:12]
asciilifeform	http://www.cs.umd.edu/~amiller << and before anyone asks, no, i don't know this fella	[00:13]
assbot	Andrew Miller phd@umd ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7bJId )	[00:13]
punkman	"US Naval Research Laboratory" huh	[00:14]
punkman	didn't those guys fund Tor as well?	[00:14]
asciilifeform	punkman: mega-sponsor of just about everything one might think of	[00:14]
asciilifeform	(in u.s. academia)	[00:14]
punkman	http://cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/	[00:15]
assbot	Coinscope ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7bWuT )	[00:15]
punkman	no code though	[00:15]
asciilifeform	was looking for precisely the code	[00:15]
asciilifeform	found - nothing	[00:15]
asciilifeform	typical.	[00:16]
punkman	https://github.com/shadow/shadow-plugin-bitcoin	[00:16]
assbot	shadow/shadow-plugin-bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7c1yA )	[00:16]
punkman	here it is	[00:16]
asciilifeform	aha	[00:16]
asciilifeform	http://cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/coinscope.pdf << somewhat interesting	[00:17]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1e7c8dH )	[00:17]
decimation	asciilifeform: amusing, they just run all the instances one at a time	[00:18]
decimation	navy research lab is a usg funding-hole	[00:18]
asciilifeform	big one	[00:19]
decimation	on the surface, it would seem logical to run 6000 threads in parallel	[00:20]
decimation	but that would be a nightmare of c-machine trickery	[00:21]
punkman	"AddressProbe is able to map the entire connectable Bitcoin network within minutes" interesting	[00:21]
asciilifeform	grantsmanship.	[00:22]
asciilifeform	but not an entirely bad experimental design	[00:22]
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decimation	probably would be more effective to use usg's cash to buy 6000 pogos	[00:23]
decimation	probably cheaper than a week of contractor salary	[00:23]
asciilifeform	it is not clear that there were ever 6000 pogos..	[00:24]
decimation	heh	[00:24]
BingoBoingo	Mega-LOL Nearly a pound and a half, small-bore, single-shot, advertised for personal defense http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-GPAR1BLK	[00:31]
assbot	Heizer Defense Pocket AR Break Action Single Shot Pistol .223 Remington 3.87" Barrel One Round Capacity Stainless Steel Barrel/Frame Matte Black Finish PAR1BLK	[00:31]
BingoBoingo	Also nearly $400	[00:32]
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BingoBoingo	!up DanyAlos	[00:33]
*	assbot gives voice to DanyAlos	[00:33]
DanyAlos	Thanx	[00:33]
DanyAlos	Just visiting to see what are you guys talking about.	[00:35]
DanyAlos	It is always interesting	[00:35]
mats	we do our best	[00:36]
BingoBoingo	We also try to impress the passerbys	[00:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00040284 = 8.9229 BTC [-]	[00:39]
DanyAlos	Last time I was around talking about Blocksize limit. I really had fun.	[00:39]
BingoBoingo	Well feel free to stop by. Are you registered with assbot to self voice when you get the itch?	[00:40]
DanyAlos	I am registered with assbot but I am not sure if I can voice myself.	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	!gettrust DanyAlos	[00:42]
DanyAlos	I think I cannot	[00:42]
assbot	Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user DanyAlos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=DanyAlos \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/DanyAlos/	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	!gettrust assbot DanyAlos	[00:42]
assbot	Trust relationship from user assbot to user DanyAlos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=DanyAlos \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/DanyAlos/	[00:42]
BingoBoingo	!rate DanyAlos 1 new blood for the blood god	[00:42]
assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8a77f6ad32fc33ae	[00:42]
DanyAlos	So kind of you!	[00:44]
DanyAlos	Thanxs	[00:44]
BingoBoingo	!v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.DanyAlos.1:b64cd11f26b5f77e3811b5519bd939ab913ea47b0465d52cd303c5ccacd79891	[00:44]
assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for DanyAlos with note: new blood for the blood god	[00:44]
BingoBoingo	K, now you can self voice	[00:44]
punkman	I read the coinscope paper, not bad. even has some pseudocode at the end.	[00:45]
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DanyAlos	BingoBoingo, Thank you. I will be back tomorrow. It is late here. Got to go.	[00:52]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: that little pistol is for what, using one's last round for self ?	[00:56]
asciilifeform	can't see what else it could be good for	[00:56]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: I guess??? For self I'd want something with a little more diameter...	[00:56]
mats	he's a crack shot	[00:56]
mats	will put in the enemy's eye	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	I honestly can't imagine a use for that thing	[00:57]
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BingoBoingo	mats: For actual crack shot here is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikal_MCM	[00:57]
assbot	MCM pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7fqh2 )	[00:57]
BingoBoingo	And for 31337 crack shot there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikal_IZH-46M	[00:58]
assbot	Baikal IZH-46M - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7fugO )	[00:58]
mats	cute	[00:59]
BingoBoingo	But the .223 abomination thing isn't even competitionable.	[01:00]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: iirc my father competed with the 'mcm'	[01:00]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: It's deinitely on my want list	[01:00]
asciilifeform	http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << '20% Ethereum project'	[01:03]
assbot	CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7fNbx )	[01:03]
*	asciilifeform ashamed of his degree	[01:03]
mats	i have yet to perfect my hip firing technique	[01:03]
*	BingoBoingo doesn't know many honest people not disappointed with degree	[01:03]
asciilifeform	back to the little pistol - i often wonder what is the shortest barrel that's still good for 'last round you save for yourself'	[01:04]
BingoBoingo	Probably depends on what comes out of barrel. .22 rimfire prolly needs a longer barrel than .50 BMG	[01:08]
cazalla	it's a ladies gun isn't it? sorta like a derringer	[01:09]
asciilifeform	http://en.shram.kiev.ua/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni.shtml << small arms oddities	[01:09]
assbot	Exotic ammunition www.shram.kiev.ua ... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKCr0 )	[01:09]
asciilifeform	e.g., http://en.shram.kiev.ua/img/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni/wpid_je3gc13pxc_1394451845_resize.jpg	[01:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKEz5 )	[01:10]
BingoBoingo	For last bullet one needs barrel that goes back of the mouth and then up to destroy brainstem. Wider buller likely more forgiving. perhaps .12 gauge deer slug from metal "flare" gun would be ideal if "guide rod" was attached to contact right part of the soft palate	[01:11]
asciilifeform	something like the 'captive bolt' thing used in slaughterhouses would also work	[01:11]
asciilifeform	(gunpowder-actuated piston)	[01:11]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: That break action .223 pistol isn't even a ladies gun. Lacks the aesthetics for that.	[01:11]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: captive bolt is for the bunker to pass around after the last selfish prick takes own goal	[01:12]
asciilifeform	'ugh wash that thing will ya'	[01:12]
BingoBoingo	!b 12	[01:12]
assbot	Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0PAMJTS.txt )	[01:12]
BingoBoingo	mats: What really is the appeal of "hip firing"? is that for target too close for bayonet?	[01:13]
asciilifeform	http://en.shram.kiev.ua/img/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni/olded_1394382635_resize.jpg << win	[01:14]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKYho )	[01:14]
mats	putting more rounds downrange than other skilled shooter	[01:15]
mats	i would prefer a knife for close in work	[01:15]
cazalla	you guys and your illegal weapons.. call the police if ya meet with trouble	[01:16]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: On the contrary. Not illegal at all here.	[01:17]
asciilifeform	cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed	[01:17]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, illegal in my country therefore illegal in yours (works for US so why not aus?)	[01:17]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: .50 BMG anti dump truck rifle perfectly fine sport weapon	[01:18]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: Because your most dangerous native fauna is the roos	[01:18]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed << In this area they don't hose. Property owner must contract "crime scene cleaner"	[01:19]
asciilifeform	l0l	[01:19]
cazalla	as much hassle as it is shelling and deveining prawns, this tom yum goong is preddy gud	[01:22]
BingoBoingo	Medical services of course though always take the largest portion of the cadaver and bill for their attempts at resurrection	[01:22]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.wired.com/2012/07/olympic-gear-firearms/ << lol EU restricts CO2 emissions from airguns!	[01:25]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KeLRGJ )	[01:25]
BingoBoingo	Related layering strategy http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2557	[01:30]
assbot	JL: The Survival Stick ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7idqk )	[01:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.000403 = 9.7325 BTC [+]	[01:31]
BingoBoingo	And for mircea_popescu http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2562	[01:33]
assbot	JL: How Police Protect Gangsters ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7iolu )	[01:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24953 @ 0.0003989 = 9.9538 BTC [-] {2}	[01:34]
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BingoBoingo	MCM pistol, self winding watch, and naptha box lighter seems like a solid trio of possessions for profiling potential Bitcoin holders	[01:40]
mats	i admit that 'hip firing' is a mistake for most people	[01:42]
mats	and in the general case i would prefer a balanced knife over a handgun	[01:43]
BingoBoingo	Well it is a dilemma. At range you want a rifle, and otherwise you jsut don't want to get boned	[01:45]
mats	bring a battle buddy (tm)	[01:46]
punkman	http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html heh	[01:47]
assbot	CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7jwFR )	[01:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00039879 = 22.5715 BTC [-]	[01:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00039691 = 13.2568 BTC [-] {2}	[01:59]
mircea_popescu	nb.	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	"The Black Guerilla Family was running at least one Maryland Corrections facility, and even had military operatives in Afghanistan bringing home dope. Terrence White, the incarcerated Commander of the gang, impregnated four corrections officers!"	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	o hey, check the guy out	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	it wasn't out of the blue.	[02:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59350 @ 0.00039441 = 23.4082 BTC [-] {2}	[02:08]
punkman	http://www.infowars.com/black-guerrilla-family-the-bloods-and-the-crips-plan-to-take-out-baltimore-cops/	[02:09]
assbot	» Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7lqX0 )	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177026 << ongoing problem, with all the "we made our own coin out of bitcoin and sed/awk"	[02:16]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 01:05:52; punkman: so apparently shitcoins can connect to bitcoind just fine and shit blocks on it	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	how the fuck do you tell them apart ? most are very sloppy too	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177044 << fucktard thinks that something OTHER THAN THE PESO is the world's least stable currency.	[02:19]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 02:00:25; punkman: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3b457y/vp_candidate_in_argentina_a_harvard_econ_phd/	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	in this, he is a typical argentine.	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo.	[02:19]
mircea_popescu	because they're white, and really that's all there is.	[02:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23664 @ 0.00039379 = 9.3186 BTC [-]	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177090 << "provided the entire 'connectable' network is defined as 'that which will allow us to probe'. " splendid wankery.	[02:20]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 03:17:58; punkman: "AddressProbe is able to map the entire connectable Bitcoin network within minutes" interesting	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	also in the same news dollop, "wot allows mapping the entire visible relationship map". derp.	[02:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23736 @ 0.00039182 = 9.3002 BTC [-]	[02:21]
BingoBoingo	folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	he should have targeted city hall.	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	that's what they're there for.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177128 << while screaming "vote or die!"	[02:22]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 03:53:05; mats: will put in the enemy's eye	[02:23]
BingoBoingo	Or make the politicians shit the paperwork, what evs	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	15% Class participation	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	20% Ethereum project	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	15% Reading Critique and Homeworks	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	50% Final project	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	motherfucker. Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller ftr.	[02:23]
BingoBoingo	always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking. << And to be fair Roof kid got a State Senator	[02:24]
BingoBoingo	Purely by chance though.	[02:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21368 @ 0.000403 = 8.6113 BTC [+]	[02:29]
mats	punkman: reads like a scam	[02:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122944 @ 0.00041189 = 50.6394 BTC [+] {3}	[02:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00040773 = 21.9766 BTC [-]	[02:34]
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cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177210 <<< would shooting up a crack den even make the news?	[02:41]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 05:17:33; BingoBoingo: folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert	[02:41]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: Maybe if he got a high score?	[02:41]
cazalla	church wouldn't be my choice but he might've known it would cause outrage on account of church being somewhat sacrosanct	[02:43]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: no doxygen, but i did try to run it through a source tree mapper one time	[02:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73850 @ 0.00041723 = 30.8124 BTC [+] {3}	[02:49]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72900 @ 0.00041854 = 30.5116 BTC [+]	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	"As a man, my arsenal is heavier in my room. In my bed is a bowie knife, on the night stand a dagger, by the dresser a late medieval arming sword, at my desk a pair of butterfly swords, by my foot locker a Viking sword and a jobolo wood baton, and by the door to my room a hickory walking stick, a razor sharp daito [ninja sword] and a 14 inch meat hook. I want to emerge from my room with a weapon in each hand, as such a	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	scenario would be triggered by an audible break in or an attack on my housemates—and, for that apocalyptic event, I have my bow and arrows."	[03:02]
mircea_popescu	this guy is going to die accidentally when his bedroom falls on him	[03:02]
BingoBoingo	It sounds like there is a non-zero chance of that.	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Wing_Chun_Hybrid_Blade_Style_Butterfly_Swords.JPG << gotta say they're pretty gorgeous	[03:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gw1XqO )	[03:07]
cazalla	such fancy weapons but i'd rather dual machete with 50% crit bonus on offhand	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	dunno. they seem light and overall excellent.	[03:11]
cazalla	well, Australian has +2 to machete so it is an obvious choice	[03:14]
*	BingoBoingo partial to stiff dagger with pointed narrow blade, preferably unseen until removed from ribs	[03:16]
mats	http://bladeswelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/IMG_5080.jpg	[03:16]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KeWEk0 )	[03:16]
mats	'karambit'	[03:16]
BingoBoingo	!s fairbairn	[03:17]
assbot	4 results for 'fairbairn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fairbairn	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	lol teh kukri	[03:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15205 @ 0.00041854 = 6.3639 BTC [+]	[03:18]
cazalla	BingoBoingo, no rambo knife? (knife from part 2)	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	cazalla: Too wide and flat. Dagger is minimal skill tool.	[03:18]
BingoBoingo	Something like a Rambo knife requires awareness of angles and orientation	[03:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31107 @ 0.00040773 = 12.6833 BTC [-]	[03:20]
punkman	"Terminator was really sent back by John Connor because he could not longer stand reading the code he wrote when he was younger"	[03:20]
BingoBoingo	lol	[03:21]
scoopbot_revived	BitFury and private property in the land of the free. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/	[03:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141500 @ 0.00039124 = 55.3605 BTC [-] {3}	[03:24]
punkman	mats, what reads like a scam?	[03:24]
mats	01:05:06 <@assbot> » Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	you only think so because alex jones is pushing it.	[03:25]
punkman	everything on infowars reads like a scam indeed	[03:25]
mats	i would expect these organizations to have been in the game long enough to know to avoid inviting federal bureaucrats to join in the fun	[03:26]
mats	reads like cops scamming feds for grant money.	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	nah, feds would never give money, they'd just move in.	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	and honestly, it's dubious whether feds can actually afford going to battle with a well organised us based clan.	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	whether such exists is another matter, but anyway.	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	iirc the faggots licked them. there's not much lower to go after that.	[03:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16738 @ 0.00038844 = 6.5017 BTC [-]	[03:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00038807 = 14.1257 BTC [-] {2}	[03:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20935 @ 0.0003933 = 8.2337 BTC [+]	[03:37]
lobbesbot	New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=7795365644055 (Shell Arkell ; ) \|\| Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=1816771166631 (Shell Arkell ; )	[03:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1eKZkup )	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	Ouch, another german	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	And the alf creation now has the ears of 66 moduli for its necklace	[03:54]
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BingoBoingo	NewFlag https://i.imgur.com/2DWXfGR.jpg	[03:58]
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BingoBoingo	Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg	[04:18]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GMPD7F )	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	o hey check that out.	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo thaty's not a bad flag at all. whose is it ?	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Saw it in the reddit tardmines trying to mine lulz. Creator yet unidentified. Apparently reddit OP jacked it from elsewhere to be identified	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	i think you just summed up reddit with that.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	like a wikipedia for non-text internet content.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	"identify as an aloe vera" bit was pretty good.	[04:22]
BingoBoingo	It's the new "Fuck You Imma Dragon"	[04:23]
cazalla	386 lbs holy fuck that water retention	[04:23]
cazalla	"identify as aloe vera" ok nice troll	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	why not camel, i wonder.	[04:23]
BingoBoingo	Because camel humps are fat. The wikipedoium can tell redditors that.	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	but aloe's a vegetable.	[04:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24942 @ 0.00039855 = 9.9406 BTC [+]	[04:26]
BingoBoingo	But they don't want to be oily butterblobs, they want to be innocent ballons	[04:26]
BingoBoingo	Water weight makes it seem like the doctor's fault for not giving them enough HCTZ and Lasix to piss out their planthood.	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	and in the nightly scare : https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg	[04:28]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GMQy86 )	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	wrong one. i meant : http://40.media.tumblr.com/2ca11d7f8f10f6745ff7634a274589a6/tumblr_nqb6hjqvA91u3fd9jo1_1280.jpg	[04:29]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GMQyVE )	[04:29]
HeySteve	still the best site on the internet: http://web.archive.org/web/20120209145349/http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/	[04:31]
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cazalla	that site is really relegated to archive.org ?	[04:34]
HeySteve	not sure why he needs the mantrap in the 1st place... but using cellphone in the bedroom is very bad form	[04:34]
HeySteve	it seems so :(	[04:34]
BingoBoingo	Not Safe For Life: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/10/1370727194611.jpg	[04:34]
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HeySteve	arrrg that's horrendous	[04:35]
BingoBoingo	Only marginally less bad, but still Not safe for life: https://slimgur.com/image/6wX	[04:35]
assbot	HEaPB - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMRcTe )	[04:35]
cazalla	HeySteve, how many bitcoin would it take for you to fuck her? 1? 10? 100? 1000?	[04:36]
HeySteve	it looks like she's made of cancer	[04:36]
HeySteve	don't think I could, without a blindfold and a crate of viagra	[04:36]
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cazalla	10k btc but you gotta lick the pussy	[04:37]
HeySteve	the creature's human-suit is melting	[04:37]
BingoBoingo	It looks like a Staph infection literally tore through its Fupa.	[04:39]
HeySteve	cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	why the bra ?	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	im sorry, to rephrase. why just one bra ?	[04:39]
cazalla	i still don't grasp how anyone gets that big, really hope it is genetics as they claim	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	it must be liquids.	[04:41]
cazalla	must be some black hole type food that is just super dense with calories	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	soda, beer, icecream, that sort of thing.	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy << I'd be more concerned with other medical followup. I looks like it still has active cullulitis infection on its skin after surgical intervention to remove areas of active necrosis.	[04:41]
HeySteve	high fructose corn syrup is the culprit, so I've heard	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	dja mean cellulitis ?	[04:42]
HeySteve	BingoBoingo, don't know what cullulitis infection and afraid to search it	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	dja mean cellulitis ? << Yeah	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	staph fat infection.	[04:43]
HeySteve	but flesh-eating bacteria might be a solution instead of a problem here	[04:43]
BingoBoingo	Or biodiesel. Amoco Green was people!	[04:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16101 @ 0.00039855 = 6.4171 BTC [+]	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	At this point I'm conviced the only reason the fat hate movement is being suppressed is because USG has officially adopted Obesity as a social control mechanism.	[04:49]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/ <<< if anyone else feels inclined to voice their concerns re the fraud being perpetuated against umd, please do so, either towards the people there listed or anyone else you think appropriate.	[05:46]
assbot	On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FEsdNW )	[05:46]
punkman	nice ;)	[05:53]
scoopbot_revived	On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/	[06:04]
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cazalla	poor elaine shi cannot even redeem herself with a fuck with such an ugly gook face	[06:27]
cazalla	looks like some frenchie lost his head http://rt.com/news/269890-france-attack-industrial-complex/	[06:31]
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jurov	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177055 wow. seems doxygen has improved much since i last used it	[06:33]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 02:57:31; asciilifeform: https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/walletmodel_8h_source.html << example, in use by enemy	[06:33]
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jurov	http://rt.com/news/236027-madonna-europe-nazi-germany/ RT delivers!	[06:58]
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jurov	http://rt.com/news/259121-us-bomb-rt-kusturica/ looks like a plan	[07:04]
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jurov	Kusturica believes, “RT will ever more demystify the American Dream and in primetime will reveal the truth hidden for decades from the eyes and hearts of average Americans.”	[07:06]
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jurov	http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg LOL	[07:25]
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shinohai	^ that pic should be used in a bitcoind release	[07:26]
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lobbesbot	New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=133 (Marc Enger ; Marc Enger ; )	[09:37]
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punkman	https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions/	[09:49]
assbot	A month with BADONIONS ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkAdJw )	[09:49]
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lobbesbot	New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (ms@admilon.net ; )	[10:41]
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mats	it flexs	[10:41]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIbkCQbUAAAm5lz.jpg	[11:13]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIX9ZmFWgAAfH5U.jpg	[11:14]
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punkman	!up referredbyloper	[11:16]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177373 << >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-06-2015#1173884	[11:22]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 12:45:28; punkman: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions/	[11:22]
assbot	Logged on 24-06-2015 02:49:18; asciilifeform: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions << lulzy. but for some reason author did not consider the possibility that isps snort downstream from known tor exits	[11:22]
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PeterL	Anybody seen the movie "Horrible bosses 2"? It made me smile when it referenced bitcoin.	[11:25]
asciilifeform	'Feb 16: 10:30am AVW 4172 !! Guest Lecture by Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum.' << can't believe i missed this lulzfest that happened half hour's walk from my house.	[11:27]
asciilifeform	http://www.cyber.umd.edu/events/cryptocurrency-hotshots << l0l!	[11:28]
assbot	Cryptocurrency Hot-shot Speaker Series - Spring 2015 \| Maryland Cybersecurity Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnJ4MQ )	[11:28]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu probably read this speaker list, and understands why the dean of umd will not call the two 'heroes' to the carpet.	[11:29]
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decimation	asciilifeform: I've noted an extremely pervasive "any cryptocoin but bitcoin" bias in academia, think tanks, and gov't	[11:31]
decimation	in my opinion it can be solely accounted for by "I wanna print money too"	[11:32]
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decimation	ah and he's one of thiel's bois	[11:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00041179 = 5.2709 BTC [+] {2}	[11:33]
decimation	"She is also an advisor to Ripple, one of the most popular cryptocurrencies (currently second to Bitcoin in total cap). "	[11:33]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: there's always next semester.	[11:33]
asciilifeform	http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114626	[11:34]
assbot	On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCXh7u )	[11:34]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: they will have to feature some other scammer next semester	[11:35]
asciilifeform	(who will it be? gavin?)	[11:35]
pete_dushenski	wouldn't that be sweet	[11:35]
asciilifeform	not like there is any shortage of these.	[11:36]
pete_dushenski	mebbe usgbitfury will be there with their lightbulbs	[11:36]
pete_dushenski	or 21 and their comcastboxen	[11:36]
asciilifeform	i bet the ee labs are already providing gratis fab & debug service for those	[11:37]
pete_dushenski	'masters thesis'	[11:37]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell thestringpuller hope you like michael jackson http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/25/this-is-it/	[11:38]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[11:38]
asciilifeform	with shame i admit that i not only took degree there, but was employed for a spell under the same roof ('umiacs') with these mega-heroes.	[11:38]
decimation	asciilifeform: of course, if they invited someone who actually knew about bitcoin	[11:38]
assbot	This Is It \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnKeYC )	[11:38]
decimation	the conference would have been about telling uncomfortable truths	[11:38]
decimation	like, why are none of you actually reading the bitcoin code	[11:39]
asciilifeform	these are educated pseudoscientists, not 'tardstalk' denizens	[11:39]
asciilifeform	they know what they're doing.	[11:39]
pete_dushenski	right. they read code, liked what they saw.	[11:39]
decimation	that doesn't mean they know anything about bitcoin	[11:40]
decimation	but I would agree that they know from which master they get their pay	[11:40]
pete_dushenski	thought that, if anything, code needed moar feechures.	[11:40]
decimation	I could imagine a virtuous bitcoin conference	[11:40]
asciilifeform	why would a fly think that meat in the sun 'needs' anything other than some fly eggs ?	[11:40]
decimation	imagine dijsktra giving a talk on the various ways in which bitcoin code is horrifying	[11:41]
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decimation	It's depressing that these people are 'paid to think' and are engaging with bitcoin at the level of the average new york times commenter	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	!rated lobbes	[11:43]
assbot	You rated user lobbes on 06-Feb-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Well... he did teach himself how to view a directory....	[11:43]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[11:43]
shinohai	lol	[11:44]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177386 << lol apparently these 'wilder publications' have a bit of a reputation for scamming, see: http://www.patricesarath.com/observations/the-shameful-business-model-of-wilder-publications/	[11:44]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 14:10:43; punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIX9ZmFWgAAfH5U.jpg	[11:44]
assbot	The shameful business model of Wilder Publications - Author Patrice Sarath ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCZIqI )	[11:44]
mircea_popescu	da fuck is this even.	[11:46]
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mircea_popescu	"o, parents should tell their kids all about how a) they're smarter than kant and b) really, it was god not this evolution bs,"	[11:46]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114627 << what line did they cross? if you read the guest speaker list linked a few lines back, it becomes clear that they are doing the will of His Reptilian Majesty	[11:47]
assbot	On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RD0oMJ )	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	his reptilian majesty is still lying about its involvement in that particular scam.	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	the line they crossed is that they exposed their master, and yeah they're fucked.	[11:47]
asciilifeform	the thing's a rogue's gallery of buterin, the 'ripple' folks, a 'law prof' devoted to digging up precedent for 'regulating cryptocurrency', etc.	[11:48]
pete_dushenski	"and c) we've progressed so far since then, my little dearest, these words on this page from this kant feller are barely worth the paper they're written on other than for being so adorably archaic"	[11:48]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform so it is. so what of it ?	[11:49]
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asciilifeform	the figure of lizardhitler in this affair was never disguised in earnest. he simply wore the traditional kabuki mask, pro forma	[11:49]
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mircea_popescu	you're saying this as if their 0.5.4 has any bearing on anything.	[11:49]
asciilifeform	depends what means 'any bearing'	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world.	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	one wallace loh is going to be confronted with the particularly unpleasant dilemma of either saying "yeah mp was right, they were usg all along" or else fucking up an assistant.	[11:51]
mircea_popescu	he fucks up assistant profs for breakfast, it's his job.	[11:51]
mircea_popescu	and the rest of the "rogue gallery" will be confronted with the unpleasant dilemma that they're in the trenches, and either continue or get shot or else withdraw and get shot.	[11:51]
mircea_popescu	win win and bang bang all around.	[11:51]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups.	[11:52]
mircea_popescu	more imporantly : every bureaucrat, no matter how low ranking, has an identical bureaucrat clone ready to take over, revving in a corner.	[11:53]
asciilifeform	not trying to frame this as a calamity, but as a force of nature	[11:53]
asciilifeform	can the roof keep out the rain ?	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	this is a fact. it's to be used, to hurt THE PEOPLE involved.	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	for all their pretense, they're people. they cry, they hurt, they get hungry and desperate.	[11:53]
mircea_popescu	this is why "no committee". get the names, ruin their lives, let them be replaced.	[11:53]
asciilifeform	why would prof. lysenko here get desperate unless the cheques start bouncing ?	[11:54]
mircea_popescu	we're not at war with the united states government. we're at war with the people making it up. governments don't exist, people do.	[11:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform if memory serves, rarely has there been a more effectual bureaucrat than yezhov	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	his fucking pictures started bouncing at some point.	[11:55]
mircea_popescu	how ? why ?	[11:55]
asciilifeform	yezhov's was a complicated matter. in the sense that he wasn't 100% 'pet', showed signs of being willing and able to bite stalin. so had to go.	[11:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0004123 = 3.1541 BTC [+]	[11:56]
mircea_popescu	pff.	[11:56]
asciilifeform	replaced with 'pet' (who, yes, may have pulled a borgia on poor old master. but quietly)	[11:57]
mod6	i generated some quick doxygen stuff... lemme put it up somewhere quick so you can look and see if it's ok.	[11:58]
asciilifeform	mod6: i must confess that i never once actually used 'doxygen' for anything. but saw the page linked yesterday, and it (at least if viewed in graphical www browser) does some nifty things, like unraveling class inheritances	[11:59]
asciilifeform	(though i am not certain if it does so automagically or needs embedded annotations that we lack)	[11:59]
asciilifeform	re: the umd wankatron: i will add a potentially interesting detail:	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	doxygen's a standard pretty much	[12:01]
asciilifeform	it is SOP for course www to remain unchanged until new syllabus is written (if and when the course is read again)	[12:01]
asciilifeform	so that thing may well stay up for a while, and no one ought to be surprised that it features a now-defunct chumpatron	[12:01]
mircea_popescu	it's archived, of course.	[12:02]
asciilifeform	naturally.	[12:02]
asciilifeform	just pointing out that the turtle is not by pure accident the symbol of that university, and life moves very slowly there.	[12:02]
mircea_popescu	it should be spilled milk. why should they be able to "change" ?	[12:03]
mircea_popescu	fuck 'em.	[12:03]
asciilifeform	it will be interesting to see when the linked page vanishes.	[12:03]
*	pete_dushenski smells bitbet prop	[12:03]
mod6	asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html	[12:04]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1RD4Zi6 )	[12:04]
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asciilifeform	pretty neat	[12:04]
asciilifeform	esp. in comparison with the turdmeisters' copy, which is so bloated it makes my browser cry	[12:05]
asciilifeform	mod6: if you have time, consider putting up a second copy of this, but loaded with the 'bleeding' version	[12:05]
asciilifeform	(thermonukes, etc.)	[12:05]
mod6	all the way up through the IRC demolition?	[12:06]
asciilifeform	aha	[12:06]
mircea_popescu	in other news, it looks like (fingers crossed) might have seed up today.	[12:06]
asciilifeform	that's the version that i'm considering for public seed box, and it would be helpful to folks reviewing	[12:06]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: neato!	[12:07]
mod6	asciilifeform: lemme see what i can do.	[12:07]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that's a mighty fast sync.	[12:07]
*	asciilifeform imagines mircea_popescu syncing his node from pdp11 tape reels	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:08]
mod6	do you want me to add in the { Gentoo Sanity } patches as well?	[12:09]
asciilifeform	aha	[12:09]
mod6	alrighty.	[12:09]
asciilifeform	these work now ?	[12:09]
asciilifeform	as in, can produce static binary ?	[12:09]
mod6	well they work in the context that these files compile without /those/ specific problems (i.e. namespace problems with boost), but we still have the gcc/uclibc issue.	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	^	[12:10]
asciilifeform	mod6: which issue? where linker barfs ?	[12:10]
mod6	yes. that.	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	poor guy, my heart goes out. "does this work ? " "well it works in the sense it takes the shit out of the soup. puss is sitll there."	[12:10]
asciilifeform	ah	[12:10]
mod6	just compiled it like 20 minutes ago again with my newest gentoo, still barfs.	[12:11]
mod6	/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC	[12:11]
mod6	same thing.	[12:11]
asciilifeform	mod6: have you tried building a minimal 'hello world' with pthreads under uclibc ?	[12:11]
asciilifeform	see if same thing	[12:11]
mod6	naw, haven't tried yet.	[12:11]
asciilifeform	i'd like to know which uclibc actually supports pthreads	[12:12]
mod6	i'll see if i can get to that here sometime today.	[12:12]
asciilifeform	(because we know that it does. threading is used in a number of proggies which come with 'buildroot')	[12:12]
asciilifeform	iirc	[12:12]
mod6	ah	[12:12]
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mircea_popescu	mod6 granted i'm rusty, but why are you making a shared object ?	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	isn't that dynamically linked by definition ?	[12:13]
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mod6	i think that's referring to uclibc which is an .so perhaps	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	have you ever tried putting the actual uclibc source in there and trying a full bore static ?	[12:17]
mod6	/lib/libuClibc-0.9.33.2.so	[12:17]
mircea_popescu	my mind boggles that indeed source there present the compile should fail. i mean... copy / paste it in your own project for chryssakes, if ti comes to it, wtf is this.	[12:17]
mod6	yeah, im not really sure.	[12:18]
mod6	im getting to the point of 'out of my depth'	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	i'm not better, tbh.	[12:19]
mod6	i've tried like 3 different versions of gcc, with and without my special gcc patch shoehorned in, 2 different versions of uclibc. not quite sure what to think yet.	[12:20]
mod6	im sure i'll get it figured out.	[12:21]
mod6	here's the error along with the rest of the compilation of the source files from ~30 minutes ago: http://dpaste.com/2CT2N23.txt	[12:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1RD9JEs )	[12:23]
pete_dushenski	mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ?	[12:23]
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pete_dushenski	i was working from 0.0.5 yesterday on debian 7 and all was going well until i had to edit/add 'auth.sh'	[12:24]
pete_dushenski	which is entirely my own thing to figure out, the instructions are clear	[12:25]
mircea_popescu	what's -fPic anyway	[12:25]
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pete_dushenski	mod6: just wondering if new 'guide' is available or forthcoming	[12:25]
pete_dushenski	i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4	[12:26]
pete_dushenski	might as well take advantage of the extra eyeballs	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ?	[12:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0004048 = 2.6919 BTC [-] {2}	[12:29]
mod6	<+pete_dushenski> mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ? << nope. that version should cover everything up through the v0.5.3.1 release.	[12:29]
mod6	But, it's probably just easier to download the tarball yourself and extract.	[12:29]
pete_dushenski	mod6: sounds good. thx !	[12:30]
mod6	Now, for all the patches that have been submitted post-release, you need to apply those patches directly from the mailing list. No guide as of yet.	[12:30]
mod6	There will be an update at somepoint once patches are ratified and a new milestone rolled.	[12:30]
mod6	<+pete_dushenski> i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 << We're not there yet.	[12:31]
mod6	But anyone is welcome to patch on their own.	[12:31]
mod6	<+mircea_popescu> mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ? << yeah, worth a shot.	[12:31]
pete_dushenski	mod6: mkay. standing by then.	[12:32]
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mod6	asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error:	[12:35]
mod6	http://dpaste.com/3K00CQD.txt	[12:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1RDdiuq )	[12:36]
mod6	anyway, will check back into that in a bit... maybe i did something weird. but i'm pretty sure it was the correct order.	[12:37]
mod6	while trying to figure out how to set "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=false" or something, i ran into this; www.cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2006-October/011418.html	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo incidentally, know what the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ?	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	seems to have been a "for free" acquisition, "just pay us our salaries"	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	nfi what "hyperledger" even is or was supposed to be, looks like pure accounting fraud but what do i know	[12:43]
ben_vulpes	"bits of proof"?	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	some derpy start-up thing. cointerra scammers "acquired", except not really.	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	apparently was still somehow owned by the ceo.	[12:44]
ben_vulpes	hm. i was thinking about some java btc thinger.	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	imagine, principals misrepresenting themselves as "CEO"s.	[12:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62000 @ 0.00038959 = 24.1546 BTC [-] {3}	[12:46]
ben_vulpes	unrelatedly, july looks to be a banner month	[12:49]
mircea_popescu	whassat ?	[12:49]
ben_vulpes	~7 humans in office at full time	[12:49]
ben_vulpes	and there are like 2 other deals with 2-3 people apiece that have yet to die on me	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	time to get your very own receptionist.	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	"Not all, but close to all the states in the United States, the highest paid public official is the football coach at the flagship state university," says sports economist Allen Sanderson, at the University of Chicago.	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	bwahaha	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea.	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	so basically they invented this system where they whore the kids out for free during the one time in their life when they're actually peak shape, for which reason ncaa made 1bn in ad revenue in 2012 to the professional league's 500mn.	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	and since all this extra money exists, it gotta go somewhere, adn well... why not the coach ?	[12:58]
mod6	<+mircea_popescu> what's -fPic anyway << position independant coe: Generated machine code is not dependant on located at a specific memory address to work. for example in the asm a jump can be to relitive address [ jne CURRENT+10 ] as opposed to say [ jne 0xDEADBEEF ]	[12:58]
mod6	s/coe/code	[12:58]
mircea_popescu	hm	[12:59]
mod6	so a shared lib would be able to modfiy/change the addresses as needed to where the lib is loaded into memory.	[13:00]
mod6	( for the example [ jne CURRENT+10 ] ), and for the non -fPIC code, the compiler will set these to specific memory addresses.	[13:01]
mod6	i.e. ( [ jne 0xdeadbeef ]	[13:02]
mircea_popescu	well, i'm out of my depth as you say, but it seems to me that importing the whole code into your own project and compiling it statically instead of creating shared libraries is the bedrock solution.	[13:03]
mod6	To be clear, shared libs /should/ be using -fPIC. If I understand this correctly.	[13:03]
mircea_popescu	it should yes	[13:03]
mod6	Ah... ok, i think I'm coming to some understanding here. I guess I didn't get that you were saying to compile uclibc /statically/ under our own project just the same as we have say, openssl or boost or bdb?	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	right ?	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	what else to do ?	[13:05]
mod6	yeah, certainly could be something to this.	[13:06]
mod6	I wouldn't have thought that we'd have to include a statically built linker...	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	me either, but again, what's to do ?	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	in any other case this would be a bulbously ugly hack, but here, it actually changes nothing	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	seeing how the pogo will have to run nothing else anyway	[13:07]
mod6	You'd think a linker should be able to produce a statically linked binary, weather itself is dynamcially built or statically built.	[13:07]
mircea_popescu	you'd think many things	[13:08]
mod6	haha. true.	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	on the other hand, bitcoin on pogo seems destined to end up melded in the kernel anyway, so this is just a sooner/higher up the tree merge than we expected.	[13:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00041313 = 8.056 BTC [+] {2}	[13:10]
mats	http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gay-marriage-and-other-major-rulings-at-the-supreme-court/2015/06/25/ef75a120-1b6d-11e5-bd7f-4611a60dd8e5_story.html	[13:14]
assbot	Supreme Court rules gay couples nationwide have a right to marry - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IhWo3R )	[13:14]
pete_dushenski	relevant: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177269	[13:15]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 06:26:20; mircea_popescu: iirc the faggots licked them. there's not much lower to go after that.	[13:15]
mats	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/R4LRQKzj	[13:17]
assbot	Pastebin \| IRCCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1dlylUE )	[13:17]
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jurov	i don't see any point for merging bitcoind to the kernel	[13:19]
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jurov	and why you try so hard to have it statically linked?	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	the "kernel" only makes sense as a concept if multiple things are being run. if you can fully specify all the code that will run on the machine, that set of all the code IS the kernel.	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	that's exactly the problem with system-d, in other words.	[13:22]
*	shinohai needs to learn gentoo or something.	[13:23]
decimation	lol read Scalia's dissent	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	yeah, great read. what's it worth ?	[13:25]
decimation	"So it is not of special importance to me what the law says about mar- riage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today?s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court."	[13:25]
decimation	nothing	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	the one time they stole people's money in the 30s, there was some guy dissenting on the supreme court.	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	what of it ?	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	scalia's next step is to burn down the supreme court.	[13:25]
decimation	it's a good point	[13:25]
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mircea_popescu	tons of people showed over the years before that same court "your honor i'm terribly sorry i stole and i am not going to do one damned thing about it".	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	now it's his turn.	[13:26]
decimation	"This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected commit- tee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extrav- agant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most im- portant liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves."	[13:26]
decimation	if he was consistent, he would be leading the next revolution I guess	[13:26]
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decimation	"With each decision of ours that takes from the People a question properly left to them?with each decision that is unabash- edly based not on law, but on the ?reasoned judgment? of a bare majority of this Court?we move one step closer to being reminded of our impotence."	[13:28]
decimation	apparently he's reminded of his impotence	[13:29]
mircea_popescu	the us supreme court, along with the entire institutionalised hypocrisy system it represents, has no particular relevancy to the settlement of any point. it'd be about the same to ask them as to ask perez hilton.	[13:30]
decimation	well, that point became clear with the obamacare decision yesterday	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	should probably stick to discerning which fashions are fashionable and which are not, change the verbiage to "that's hot!" etc.	[13:31]
mircea_popescu	maybe revise the uniform to include small dogs.	[13:31]
decimation	actually I think it would be interesting if a state said 'fuck you, we ain't havin gay marriage'	[13:32]
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mircea_popescu	that'd be outright secession.	[13:33]
mircea_popescu	it's what it comes down to. "we do not recognise the supreme court"	[13:33]
decimation	this whole thing reminds me of the bicker in the parlements before the french revolution	[13:33]
decimation	mircea_popescu: if you were to ask justice roberts, I"m sure he would say that he needs to 'save obamcare' precisely so that the supreme court 'retains legitimacy'	[13:34]
decimation	but if that's true, what kind of 'legitimacy' would this be?	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	i have no idea what the man would say, and i haven't asked him because i don't give a flying fuck what he thinks	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	on this or any other topic.	[13:35]
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decimation	unfortunately, there are millions of people in the us who adopt these fashions as law	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	"(2) The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	"	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	herp.	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	fgucking unreadable, this crud.	[13:36]
chetty	the ripple effect will be interesting	[13:36]
mircea_popescu	unfortunately for whom and why'd i care.	[13:36]
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decimation	ironically scalia himself is reduced to mocking the text too	[13:37]
decimation	"Rights, we are told, can ?rise . . . from a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives define a liberty that remains urgent in our own era.?24 (Huh? How can a better informed under- standing of how constitutional imperatives [whatever that means] define [whatever that means] an urgent liberty [never mind], give birth to a right?) "	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	urgent liberty lmao.	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	sounds like someone needed to pee.	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	why does all this crap read exactly alike, like the same uncultured louts wrote it all ? from reddit to gavin's "opinions" to the scotus majority opinion, all written by the same thirty year old hands that never read anything but summaries of summaries and never did anything whatsoever at all ?	[13:40]
mircea_popescu	you can tell what sort of people you're dealing with by the sort of rhetorics they favour. and this sort is pretty sad altogether.	[13:41]
decimation	and the peak of 'libertarian' achievement is to place someone like scalia on the court to old-man rant about what's going wrong	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	he was appointed by reagan if memory serves, and i don't see reagan would think much of your "libertarian achievement"	[13:42]
decimation	no, probably not	[13:43]
decimation	of course, roberts was placed on the court after everyone shouted down bush's idea to place his personal lawyer on the court	[13:43]
decimation	she probably would have made better decisions, not giving much of a fuck about gov't interest	[13:43]
chetty	roberts is one of regans biggest failures	[13:43]
decimation	no roberts was bush	[13:43]
decimation	you are thinking of souter	[13:44]
chetty	oh guess history is starting to run together ... sigh	[13:44]
decimation	nope, souter was bush the father	[13:44]
chetty	ah yes, soute, bah	[13:44]
decimation	kennedy	[13:44]
decimation	he was a reagan appointee	[13:44]
chetty	being on the court surely seems to poison a lot	[13:45]
decimation	I'm sure they get big important visitors every day telling them about the serious consequences of their decisions	[13:45]
decimation	I'm not sure how one would retain contact with reality	[13:45]
chetty	and maybe a little nsa arm twisting	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	by not giving a shit.	[13:46]
decimation	actually scalia threatened the nsa along those lines	[13:47]
decimation	http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-03-24/nsa-spying-case-at-the-supreme-court-ooh-says-scalia	[13:47]
assbot	NSA Spying Case at the Supreme Court? "Ooh," Says Scalia - Businessweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1BSAnYh )	[13:48]
decimation	"Despite his intellectual interest in the application of the Fourth Amendment to the conduct of the NSA, he considers it ?stupid? to assume that the Supreme Court will have the last word on whether contemporary surveillance practices are appropriate. Why? Because the judicial branch is the ?least competent? arm of government to evaluate the effectiveness and need for intrusive electronic spying. ?The Supreme Court doesn?t know diddly,	[13:48]
mats	hm, terror incidents on three continents	[13:49]
mats	Daesh is coming.	[13:49]
mats	http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/africa/tunisia-terror-attack	[13:50]
mats	http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-strikes-shiite-mosque-kuwait-32044671	[13:50]
assbot	Terror attacks on 3 continents, including 28 in Tunisia - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyWLe )	[13:50]
assbot	IS Affiliate Hits Shiite Mosque in Kuwait, Killing 25 People - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyX1N )	[13:50]
mats	http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/europe/france-attack	[13:50]
assbot	France terror attack: One beheaded, Hollande says - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyY5L )	[13:50]
decimation	people drive cars into buildings all the time	[13:52]
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mircea_popescu	lol is the qntra rabbit eating contraband ?	[13:54]
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mircea_popescu	in my opinion it can be solely accounted for by "I wanna print money too" << more like pure tim swansonism, "why should i have to do what i'm told", but anyways.	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	;;ud daesh	[14:00]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Daesh \| Sep 24, 2014 ... Fabius argued that since IS is not Islamic and absolutely not a state, he said "... the Arabs call it Daesh..." (from Arabic "to tread upon", ...	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	" She said she is staying about a mile from the main attack scene, but visitors there still took precautions by putting mattresses up against the door to slow any gunmen who might try to barge in."	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	lulzy, the maggots taking measures against the woodpeckers that might be coming in	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	"we put a walnut shell in the way!"	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	must be a pretty fun, exciting and fun vacation for the jwz's in question.	[14:02]
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mircea_popescu	The RT network, Kusturica says, is destroying the “Hollywood-CNN stereotype of the good and bad guys, where blacks, Hispanics, Russians, Serbs are the villains, and white Americans, wherever you look, are OK!”	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	"'Nuclear war our likely future': Russia & China won't accept US hegemony, Reagan official warns" << they are pretty good at the propaganda angle.	[14:06]
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-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[14:09]
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mod6	ascii_field: here's a sample hello-world with pthreads: http://dpaste.com/29G0ZT0.txt	[14:10]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GxD1iH )	[14:10]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[14:10]
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mod6	nice	[14:10]
mod6	not sure if you caught this:	[14:11]
mod6	<+mod6> ascii_field: here's a sample hello-world with pthreads: http://dpaste.com/29G0ZT0.txt	[14:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GxDgtR )	[14:11]
ascii_field	mod6: -lpthread	[14:11]
ascii_field	where is it	[14:11]
mod6	our make file has -lpthread in there.	[14:11]
ascii_field	aha there	[14:11]
ascii_field	hm	[14:12]
mod6	mircea_popescu suggested that we should build uclibc statically itself inside of our bitcoin bundle.	[14:14]
ascii_field	mod6: thing is, at least for pogo, ~whole shebang~ is to be built 'inside bundle'	[14:14]
ascii_field	including own compiler	[14:14]
ascii_field	that's sorta how it works	[14:14]
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mod6	so gcc as well then.	[14:17]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177542 << there is no 0.5.4 as of yet	[14:17]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 15:22:38; pete_dushenski: i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4	[14:17]
mod6	ascii_field: ok, i guess i didn't get that part about gcc/uclibc being in there with openssl/boost/bdb.	[14:18]
mod6	oh, forgot to add in the ldd output for that pthread test: http://dpaste.com/33KYWZ4.txt	[14:20]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HkyPsd )	[14:20]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177574 << widely known. the one here gets >1M pretax	[14:20]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 15:53:21; mircea_popescu: "Not all, but close to all the states in the United States, the highest paid public official is the football coach at the flagship state university," says sports economist Allen Sanderson, at the University of Chicago.	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	well im not from around there. lulz of all time, rich coaches.	[14:21]
mod6	bread & circuses	[14:21]
ascii_field	^	[14:21]
ascii_field	(it is also widely known that the sport program at virtually all american universities is cash-negative)	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	how's that work ?	[14:22]
ascii_field	but this function has been outsourced to them, much like writing code for nsa has been	[14:22]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: it works the same way the english literature department works, just with five extra zeroes on both sides of the balance sheet	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:22]
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mod6	ascii_field: oh, i did have an issue patching in that last IRC demo patch.... im gonna try it again, but it complained about net.cpp:ThreadGetMyExternalIP	[14:26]
ascii_field	mod6: try the following sequence:	[14:26]
mod6	(11:31) <+mod6> asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error:	[14:26]
mod6	(11:32) <+mod6> http://dpaste.com/3K00CQD.txt	[14:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HkzPg1 )	[14:26]
ascii_field	dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar	[14:26]
mod6	ok, i'll give that a shot here quick.	[14:26]
ascii_field	the two i omitted are small and simple to merge back in when wanted.	[14:27]
ascii_field	they are only needed for the static build system and so i left them out deliberately	[14:27]
ascii_field	thinking that mod6 will roll them up into a 'static fix' patch	[14:27]
mod6	hmm.	[14:28]
mod6	maybe.	[14:28]
BingoBoingo	BingoBoingo incidentally, know what the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ? << NO idea about any of these parts yet	[14:29]
mod6	<+ascii_field> dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar << ok, yup, was able to extract v0.5.3.1-RELEASE and apply these four patches without incident.	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	bits of proof not bits of pay.	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	mah bad.	[14:30]
ascii_field	mod6: there we go.	[14:30]
mod6	do you want me to post the doxy for that as well then?	[14:31]
ascii_field	what i suggested was to have two dox pages, one for 'proper release' and one for this.	[14:31]
mod6	ah,ok	[14:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83800 @ 0.00039801 = 33.3532 BTC [-] {3}	[14:34]
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BingoBoingo	Ah	[14:35]
mod6	ok try this out ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wDNSSnipAndOrphanagePatches/index.html	[14:39]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxIPbR )	[14:39]
ascii_field	mod6: irc.cpp is in there	[14:40]
shinohai	the doxygen is slick	[14:40]
mod6	<+ascii_field> dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar << oh, well you didn' say it in here ;)	[14:40]
ascii_field	l0l	[14:40]
mod6	i'll take it down, and add the irc patch	[14:40]
mod6	my bad.	[14:40]
ascii_field	ty mod6	[14:40]
shinohai	I still haven't done the irc patch. I need to stop being lazy	[14:41]
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shinohai	!up ascii_field	[14:41]
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ascii_field	shinohai: when you apply that patch, please be sure to read the instructions	[14:41]
ascii_field	(bitcoind will need to be told your box's ip)	[14:42]
shinohai	No problem, I don't want to break my sweet node xD	[14:42]
trinque	ascii_field: mod6: would there be any benefit to trying to get an ARM version of this gentoo install going on the pogo?	[14:43]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177634 << l0l, guess which country invented 'we had to destroy the village in order to save it' (TM) (R)	[14:43]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 16:30:52; decimation: mircea_popescu: if you were to ask justice roberts, I"m sure he would say that he needs to 'save obamcare' precisely so that the supreme court 'retains legitimacy'	[14:43]
trinque	I'm going to fiddle with my pogo this weekend anyway.	[14:43]
mod6	weird, same problem: dpaste.com/05ZZ443.txt	[14:43]
ascii_field	mod6: dpaste a copy of your net.cpp	[14:44]
mod6	ok	[14:44]
mod6	dpaste.com/0HMWFYN.txt	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/0N2VFMP << what the fuck is this novel braindamage.	[14:46]
mod6	(bbs)	[14:46]
assbot	dpaste: 0N2VFMP ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkDrOV )	[14:46]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: we did this here	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	does curl actually ignore the -tsl flag or does the server go bonkos over ssl3 even being available at all or what the fuck is this	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	anbd why should i be debugging it	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	o we did ? what was it ?	[14:46]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-06-2015#1157780	[14:47]
assbot	Logged on 09-06-2015 13:03:57; mircea_popescu: curl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to www.blockstream.com:443	[14:47]
ascii_field	and one other time, before, with phuctor	[14:47]
ascii_field	(me trying to pull from sks somewhere)	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	seems that's a different error and no solution was proffered	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	or am i misreading ?	[14:48]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123271	[14:48]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 23:40:00; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "OpenSSL: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure"	[14:48]
trinque	pogo project deferred or what?	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	ohhh right.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	damn.	[14:49]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123203	[14:49]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 22:20:53; ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap	[14:49]
ascii_field	^ start of thread	[14:49]
ascii_field	trinque: it can't fly until static build with uclibc	[14:49]
trinque	ah k	[14:49]
ascii_field	mod6: please post the net.cpp immediately prior to the failed patch	[14:50]
ascii_field	(i have my own 0.5.3.1 release one)	[14:50]
ascii_field	trinque: the fundamental problem with gentoo on pogo is that pogo is absolute misery to build ~anything~ on	[14:53]
trinque	I've got crossdev set up on the lappy	[14:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00038779 = 20.3978 BTC [-]	[14:53]
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ascii_field	then no need for gentoo on pogo	[14:53]
ascii_field	straight to buildroot	[14:53]
trinque	k	[14:53]
decimation	re: football < it's also the case that professional us football uses the college teams as a 'farm system' for talent development, at taxpayer expense	[14:54]
ascii_field	(which is sorta like gentoo but minus all of the 'daily use' building-new-progs-on-the-box scriptage (i.e. 'emerge')	[14:54]
trinque	got it; I'll get more acquainted with that tool this weekend then.	[14:54]
ascii_field	decimation: it's a farm for just about any kind of talent	[14:54]
decimation	trinque: why not try to use the newest gcc to see if that bug is fixed?	[14:54]
decimation	ascii_field: but pro baseball has its own junior farm team system, don't need college	[14:55]
decimation	if you guys need to build gcc as part of the whole package, why does it matter what debian uses	[14:55]
trinque	decimation: so build the latest set of patches using whatever latest gcc?	[14:55]
decimation	yeah, or try it	[14:55]
decimation	it's possible the newest gcc fixes that one issue	[14:55]
trinque	k	[14:56]
decimation	with uclib static linking	[14:56]
decimation	also you need to be careful with the c++ related linking shit	[14:56]
decimation	the newest gcc might come with a newer version of the std c++ libs	[14:56]
decimation	you probably need to force it to work with C++ 03	[14:57]
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decimation	since it is fashionable to change c++ every few years	[14:57]
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ascii_field	http://cryptome.org/2015/06/tsarnaev-1481.pdf << lulzy. ianal, but still had no idea that usa officially had 'total' forfeiture in penal code (i.e., not simply 'items used in connection with the crimes,' but ~everything the schmuck ever touched~)	[15:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GxPQcE )	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	sounds novel	[15:14]
ascii_field	doesntit.	[15:14]
ascii_field	cribbed straight from soviet penal code	[15:14]
mircea_popescu	aye	[15:14]
ascii_field	'конфискация имущества'	[15:14]
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mircea_popescu	the things the us will be remembered for are going to be so insulting to the historical usians...	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	almost like the things soviet russia is remembered for	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	or the third reich, for that matter.	[15:15]
ascii_field	3rd reich 'nervously smokes in the corner' compared to the things 4th reich will be remembered for	[15:15]
ascii_field	(after all, 3rd 'died young and left a decent-looking corpse' - at least will be seen to have, in contrast!)	[15:16]
ascii_field	for starters, 3rd never managed (or even attempted) the feat of turning ~an entire planet~ into its toilet	[15:16]
ascii_field	3rd ran medical experiments on a few thousand prisoners, 4th - on 300+ million schmucks	[15:17]
ascii_field	could go on.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	myeah	[15:18]
ascii_field	the total confiscation thing pretty clearly wants to lay a foundation for 'condemned to cokemachine'	[15:20]
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mod6	oh i think i know what i missed.	[15:21]
ascii_field	'...pursuant to rule 32.2(b)(3) of the federal rules of criminal procedure, the united states is hereby authorized to seize the forfeitable assets and maintain them in its secure custody and control.'	[15:21]
mod6	the zap patches	[15:21]
ascii_field	the 'not-a-real-journalist-so-forced-to-reveal-sources' case ('iphone 4' case, iirc) pretty much established precedent that 'inquest isn't punishment' iirc	[15:23]
ascii_field	and torture is more or less legal by usg's own rules if you are proclaimed 'terrorist'	[15:23]
ascii_field	so coke machine is not far.	[15:23]
decimation	ascii_field: well so this is criminal forfeiture right?	[15:24]
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punkman	http://www.nature.com/news/why-the-devious-defecator-case-is-a-landmark-for-us-genetic-privacy-law-1.17857	[15:25]
assbot	Why the 'devious defecator' case is a landmark for US genetic-privacy law : Nature News & Comment	[15:25]
ascii_field	decimation: aha. what i was getting at is that there will be, in the near future, a very entertaining verdict somewhere,	[15:25]
ascii_field	where 'if he locked it in a safe, u.s. marshals may break the safe. if he locked it in his brain, same'	[15:25]
decimation	ascii_field: note that this is another amusing joke on the magna carta, in its 800th year	[15:25]
ascii_field	'self-limiting' government is the ultimate joke	[15:26]
trinque	ascii_field: yep, will involve some kind of "cyber terrorism" scenario maybe	[15:26]
decimation	"	[15:26]
decimation	(20) For a trivial offence, a free man shall be fined only in proportion to the degree of his offence, and for a serious offence correspondingly, but not so heavily as to deprive him of his livelihood. In the same way, a merchant shall be spared his merchandise, and a husbandman the implements of his husbandry, if they fall upon the mercy of a royal court. None of these fines shall be imposed except by the assessment on oath of reputa	[15:26]
trinque	^sounds like fag talk	[15:26]
ascii_field	trinque: not only this, but i also predict specifically that an automated (i.e. robotic, as in 'coke machine') system of interrogation and 'incentivization' will be specifically permitted by u.s. law	[15:27]
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trinque	heh, shittier robocop	[15:27]
decimation	peices are already there with road tickets	[15:27]
ascii_field	for simple questions like 'enter brainwallet pw' this requires no heroic tech	[15:27]
trinque	it checks out	[15:27]
decimation	'justice by mail'	[15:27]
decimation	ascii_field: the move 'elysium' featured this	[15:28]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-06-2015#1174350 << thread, for anyone who missed it	[15:28]
assbot	Logged on 24-06-2015 17:28:42; ascii_field: it will be replaced - question of ~when~, not ~if~ - by something like an oubliette with a vending machine	[15:28]
ascii_field	decimation: i must admit, never saw that film	[15:28]
decimation	matt daemon was grabbed, shook down by police robot	[15:28]
ascii_field	but it's a rather obvious idea imho	[15:28]
trinque	the thing which sways my expectations away from such things is the seeming inevitability of a financial collapse	[15:29]
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ascii_field	collapse only changes ~who~ will be placing ~whom~ in the machine	[15:29]
decimation	yeah. Steve Sailer thinks that Neill Blomkamp is pushing 'reactionary' plots into his movies, but dressing them up in such a way as to make them palatable to liber-tards	[15:29]
ascii_field	not whether the machine is built	[15:29]
ascii_field	or whether folks will grunt their last in it	[15:29]
trinque	maybe so	[15:30]
ascii_field	and, imho, doesn't change it very much	[15:30]
trinque	presupposes that the guy put into the machine is using something like bitcoin, doesn't it?	[15:31]
trinque	most wont be	[15:31]
decimation	the plot of the movie is that the us turns into shitty third world, and 'actual people' escape to space stations. the plot has some silly shit about helping out the little people, but I think Blomkamp's real point is "start building the space station today"	[15:31]
ascii_field	trinque: the gedankenexperiment specifically concerns bitcoin or any similar mechanism where answer from the 'patient' is instantly verifiable by machine	[15:31]
trinque	if the proportion of people using bitcoin stays small, I'd more expect holders to find themselves attacked in their own homes at night	[15:32]
ascii_field	decimation: again i have not seen this film, but it appears to have the usual nonsensical proviso that the 'space station' is a physical place which the plebes might hope to overrun and devour	[15:32]
ascii_field	in actual fact, the space station is right here on earth. mircea_popescu, for instance, lives in it	[15:33]
*	trinque will always fantasize about heading a couple million miles any which way	[15:33]
trinque	maybe when I'm 90	[15:33]
decimation	ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al will some day confront someone else who lays claim to their property in some way	[15:34]
decimation	it will be interesting to see the result	[15:34]
ascii_field	trinque: see mircea_popescu's observation about 'money/power' >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204	[15:34]
assbot	Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.	[15:34]
ascii_field	eventually major btc holders will operate in ways similar to the character 'raven' from neal stephenson's 'snow crash'	[15:35]
ascii_field	who went around in a motorcycle with a sidecar containing hbomb	[15:36]
trinque	ascii_field: I see the point; if a fighter jet is not just itself but the entire apparatus which sustains its operation, all the more a space ship/station	[15:36]
ascii_field	trigger tied to a vital signs monitor	[15:36]
ascii_field	(if you're within 10km of his death, you're vapour)	[15:36]
ascii_field	if attempt capture - same	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	decimation how is this not the case today ?	[15:37]
ascii_field	at the low end of things, we can at the very least expect an uptick in popularity of sleeping with a frag grenade under your pillow.	[15:37]
ascii_field	the only solution to this kind of problem is game-theoretical	[15:38]
ascii_field	as in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-06-2015#1175005	[15:38]
assbot	Logged on 25-06-2015 01:52:34; mircea_popescu: oleander blosom sees to it that's the last time YOU're running anywhere.	[15:38]
decimation	mircea_popescu: I don't recall you writing about confrontations with the local authorities over the amount of property owed to them?	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	your original was "someone else".	[15:38]
decimation	as in, 'the state or its agents'	[15:38]
mircea_popescu	there's for instance an open confrontation wit hthe state of new york over who regulates bitcoin	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	it already made a victim	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	that's now trying shamelessly to make ends meet by selling "compliance services"	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	plenty of examples.	[15:39]
ascii_field	is that fella 'making ends meet' or laughing himself to death while stoking his furnace with piles of benjies and coke ?	[15:39]
mircea_popescu	if i'm to ask you, the bug i crushed this moirning is laughing all the way to the toilet, too.	[15:40]
*	ascii_field not personal chum of his, doesn't know	[15:40]
ascii_field	l0l!	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	in that "the argument could be brought"	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	and that "hey, i don't see any dent in the bug population"	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	and so on.	[15:40]
mircea_popescu	but the question was as to any. there's multiple examples of any-es.	[15:41]
ascii_field	well idk, but is lawsky living in a sewage pipe? or a house 50x the size of my hovel, with 'sleep ad libitum' ?	[15:41]
ascii_field	this question at least hypothetically has an answer ?	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	look him up next you're in ny.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	public servant, lower ranks. he lives in a closet.	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	where does blasio live ?	[15:41]
decimation	my point was the local state, the one who could most ably summon an army to throw in jail	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	there is no such thing as a "local state" however.	[15:42]
decimation	I'm sure someone in buenos aires is sitting in jail	[15:43]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:43]
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mircea_popescu	'self-limiting' government is the ultimate joke << the only limit on government is terrorism. the us has it spelled out in the constitution, "since the only limit to government is a well armed, well organized group of domestic terrorists, people should bear arms"	[15:44]
*	ascii_field recalls the b-a jail from voyage. it was a very old-fashioned, respectable-looking thing, at least by soviet standards. i'd not be ashamed to sit in it.	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	the fact that the fat have neglected it doesn't change it. you can similarly neglect to change the oil in your car, this doesn't make the car oil changes "a thing of the past"	[15:44]
ascii_field	;;google tree of liberty blood	[15:45]
gribble	The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood ...: ; The tree of liberty... - Jefferson Quotes & Family Letters - Monticello: ; American Creation: Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" Quote in Context:	[15:45]
ascii_field	^ sound bite known to probably everyone who speaks engl.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	decimation on the jail it is spelled out "Para quién hicieron la carcel? Si el rico nunca entra y el pobre nunca sale."	[15:45]
ascii_field	aha	[15:46]
ascii_field	though iirc this was a graffiti by the reds ?	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	this is a country whose president had a prosecutor assasinated earlier this year.	[15:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 4000 @ 0.00111 = 4.44 BTC	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	local government indeed.	[15:46]
decimation	amusingly, it seems usians take government far more seriously	[15:47]
decimation	while simultaneously complaining of its overreach	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	or whether folks will grunt their last in it << i am broadly unconvinced by your theory. there aren't equal sides confronting each other here. i, for one, could not care less for any secrets usg-tard thinks he has.	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	welcome to take them to the grave, in silence.	[15:47]
mircea_popescu	decimation the only reason the usg is its in present shape is the herd of bloviating hamplanets. nothing else.	[15:48]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: what i meant was that i predict btc extraction to become a standard part of execution	[15:48]
ascii_field	regardless of who/whom	[15:48]
mircea_popescu	i don't.	[15:48]
ascii_field	curious, why not?	[15:49]
ascii_field	for instance, picture that you've caught herr karpeles	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	the morally responsible is jwz, not bush not anyone else. yes the president is getting beheaded, that's how symbolics work. and it is the job and the duty of the politico class to play the goat.	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, the guilty is always jwz. and for the obvious reason, too. "only wanted to X"	[15:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00039811 = 16.1633 BTC [+]	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field i am not actually profit motivated. i don't see catching her karpeles as a business, and i am not interested in doing it for a profit.	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	similarly, morning';s bug would have gotten crushed equally had it promised to unveil the Bug Saphire for me.	[15:50]
ascii_field	but if you had. and the contents of his sorry skin meant, say, five extra tank columns	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	i dun care to have the bug saphire.	[15:50]
ascii_field	that could be had	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	the republic lives on deficits anyway.	[15:51]
mircea_popescu	you can have it for his weight in soap.	[15:51]
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decimation	!s jwz	[15:52]
assbot	9 results for 'jwz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jwz	[15:52]
decimation	do you me sjw?	[15:52]
ascii_field	stalin, for instance, was not 'profit-motivated' by any measure. but did not refuse to pocket spanish republic's gold reserve.	[15:52]
ascii_field	(into sov. pocket, not his own. important distinction)	[15:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00041376 = 29.5425 BTC [+] {5}	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	no. i mean jwz. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1043852	[15:54]
assbot	Logged on 06-03-2015 02:23:12; mircea_popescu: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/03/google-seems-to-have-broken-email-forwarding/#comment-160814 << sweet innocence.	[15:54]
ascii_field	jwz has a very long history of being what he is.	[15:56]
ascii_field	in case anyone didn't know	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	what, a symbol for the unthinking fat ?	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	it's basically what this is, neoteny of poor eating habits. "i wanna eat just the cream" "it's unhealthy" "nevertheless"	[15:58]
shinohai	nice > "Para quién hicieron la carcel? Si el rico nunca entra y el pobre nunca sale."	[15:58]
ascii_field	as a remora	[15:58]
ascii_field	sorta like eric raymond	[15:58]
ascii_field	fella who is ~really good~ at attaching himself to the backs of 'happening' things	[15:58]
decimation	I thought jwz gave up on 'tech' and opened nightclub	[15:58]
ascii_field	i'm half-surprised he hasn't turned up 'in bitcoin'	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	apparently you can never get out of the fucking digital mafia.	[15:58]
decimation	about 99% of people 'in tech' carry his attitdue	[15:59]
decimation	"we don't need to worry about politics, just do what must be done" ,etc	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	everyone in the states does this	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	then they look at isis as "inexplicable"	[16:00]
ascii_field	decimation: yes, there aren't many who'd refuse going back in time to be butt-buddies with andreessen	[16:00]
ascii_field	(not gavin, but marc)	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	and putin doesn't understand how the world works, and so on.	[16:00]
decimation	well, entire generations were raised under the assumption that the us is in an overwhelming position of power w.r.t. the world	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	this is what memory hole effect is, too. "but they told me when i was five that it's ok to only turn my brain on if i hear a certain magic word"	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	ya baby. totally.	[16:01]
decimation	^ also because those generations were raised by usg	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	alf is worried about connected machinery behaving strangely if it gets magic packet	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile the citizenry behaves strangely if it DOESNT get it.	[16:01]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: in popular parlance, this is called 'fnord' iirc	[16:02]
ascii_field	although with a flipped sign bit	[16:02]
ascii_field	(iirc term came from same tale as the original lizardhitler)	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	dronf ?	[16:02]
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ascii_field	l0l	[16:02]
mircea_popescu	as in "then the drones kept derping and dronfing about who knows what"	[16:03]
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ascii_field	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski << pediwik has surprisingly minimally-sycophantic sum-up of jwz's life and times	[16:04]
assbot	Jamie Zawinski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7h3V )	[16:04]
decimation	he probably edited it	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	who was the other accidental windfall victim who actually WAS into bitcoin ?	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	dude sold some bullshit news service to a bullshit media corp (yahoo maybe ?) for a billion	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	and kept losing money off of it like a gas giant	[16:04]
mod6	ok ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/index.html	[16:05]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7mEU )	[16:05]
ascii_field	mod6: neato!	[16:05]
mod6	it's a goof-ball way to put in all the patches applied, but that link show's all the patches and how I applied them.	[16:06]
mod6	*shows	[16:06]
ascii_field	wai wat	[16:06]
ascii_field	it has highlighting of patches ?	[16:06]
ascii_field	where ?	[16:06]
mod6	no no	[16:06]
mod6	so at the top of the screen it says "bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }	[16:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7qnY )	[16:07]
ascii_field	ah	[16:07]
mod6	that link in there shows which patches were used, and how they are applied. couldn't find a better way to do this at the moment.	[16:07]
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ascii_field	looking for the graphical class inheritance charts the enemy www had	[16:08]
ascii_field	i can only guess those were produced via some other means ?	[16:08]
mod6	i think i've seen it, one sec.	[16:08]
ascii_field	btw, here's an idea for later, abolition of the remaining wxisms, e.g., http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/noui_8h.html#a19035390d489756989573cfa572bbde7	[16:09]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/noui.h File Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7vIp )	[16:09]
ascii_field	yes, after the thing runs	[16:09]
ascii_field	(as mircea_popescu will remind us)	[16:09]
ascii_field	but that crud clutters up the source and makes my eyes bleed.	[16:09]
mod6	yeah, i don't like that either.	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	indeed removal of all crud is a beloved goal, and how this adventure even begun if you recall	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	we're trying to save the trees over here.	[16:10]
ascii_field	aha	[16:10]
*	ascii_field remembers very well	[16:10]
mod6	i think it just ends up munging all of the file names and stuff.	[16:10]
*	ascii_field still just wants his fscking b00k!	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	ya somehow i thought you'd remember :D	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	apparently you're not old enough to need books yet	[16:11]
ascii_field	re: wx: it is in fact out, but sits behind a bunch of empty #ifdefs	[16:11]
mod6	so far, all i see are hierarchal graphs for base-classes/types. was trying to find something for CBlock, but I don't as of yet, see a graph.	[16:11]
mod6	like they have: [CBase58Data] <--- [CBitcoinAddress]	[16:13]
mod6	that type of thing.	[16:13]
mod6	if you show me what enemy has via link, maybe i can replicate it?	[16:13]
ascii_field	re: jwz: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-01-2015#972750 , http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-04-2015#1094056	[16:13]
assbot	Logged on 11-01-2015 04:32:13; asciilifeform: 'digerati', as i understand, encompasses a set of peculiarly wealthy ('dotcom boom', normally, but often barnacled to this or that mega-corp success of some vaguely computerized sort 1980-2000)	[16:13]
assbot	Logged on 09-04-2015 20:03:03; ascii_field: i mentioned him at least once as specifically an example of a particularly vile species sometimes called 'digerati'	[16:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00041747 = 5.0305 BTC [+]	[16:13]
mod6	!up ascii_field	[16:14]
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ascii_field	mod6: https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/namespace_checkpoints.html << example	[16:14]
mod6	ok thanks.	[16:14]
ascii_field	the caller graphs	[16:14]
ascii_field	specifically	[16:14]
mod6	btw, do you like that tree on the left pane? i added that, can remove.	[16:15]
mod6	oh ok, i see what you mean... yeah, i can try to get it to work on this side too.	[16:15]
ascii_field	the tree is useful	[16:16]
mod6	i kinda thought so too	[16:16]
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mod6	oh i found it. CALL_GRAPH and CALLER_GRAPH were set to "NO" in the config file.	[16:17]
mod6	lemme regenerate both.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field yep node is actually starting up. will undergo some testing.	[16:20]
ascii_field	neat!	[16:22]
shinohai	https://i.imgur.com/ksIVhJs.jpg	[16:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl8oAB )	[16:23]
trinque	butt's shooped	[16:23]
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shinohai	sad	[16:23]
mod6	huh, maybe those didn't do the trick...	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6z4ejKXO01qktnjdo1_500.gif better.	[16:23]
*	mod6 keeps digging.	[16:23]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl8rwj )	[16:23]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: and, in case anyone forgot that bitcoind was written by the diagnosably retarded, we get to choose between syncing exclusively from mircea_popescu's node ('-connect' mode) and getting to serve blocks to anyone	[16:25]
ascii_field	that is, can have one but not both	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	i don't see the problem with serving blocks ?	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	oh oh	[16:25]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: say i want to pull down chain from your node	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	mmmyeah	[16:25]
ascii_field	(would like to)	[16:26]
ascii_field	in the process, my seed doesn't get to seed anyone.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	yes yes, it's counterintuitively stupid.	[16:26]
ascii_field	it's riotously, enragingly stupid	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	(the production trick to solve this : have two instances running, have them share the files, have one not write)	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	just to get an idea of what stupid yields downstream	[16:26]
ascii_field	if i had to predict, would say this does not work as written - threads do not have deterministic behaviour, and bitcoind is peppered with pointless locks	[16:28]
ascii_field	whole thing is almost optimized for irreproducibility	[16:28]
mod6	ok now im building the graphs, just needed to install graphviz	[16:30]
mod6	there we go	[16:31]
mod6	will post	[16:32]
mod6	lol, this thing is 64Mb gzipped	[16:36]
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mod6	lol, so many files it exceeds the abilities of mv & cp...	[16:45]
mod6	!up ascii_field	[16:45]
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mod6	ok	[16:48]
mod6	http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/index.html	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/271FHF9	[16:48]
deedbot-	Bad URL or network outage.	[16:48]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmoK )	[16:48]
assbot	dpaste: 271FHF9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmoQ )	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/271FHF9.txt	[16:49]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmFt )	[16:49]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field and anyone else interested ^	[16:49]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: neato!	[16:49]
mod6	hey thanks mp!	[16:49]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: i recommend also (assuming you haven't done this ages ago) doing equivalent of disabling debug.log rollover (plug in teletype into that pdp-11...)	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	this, mind, is a mystery meat "mp-brand" bitcoind. iirc it identifies as 6.2	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	it is not the foundation one, which i am going to compile and run once the instructions come out.	[16:50]
ascii_field	well yes. but i am assuming it has some mechanism for keeping log	[16:50]
ascii_field	(if not, ignore)	[16:50]
mats	https://i.imgur.com/MePcKLj.jpg are you ready for the Islamic State Wrestling Federation	[16:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbwMX )	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaha wut	[16:51]
mats	john cena plays in the background	[16:51]
ascii_field	mats: source ?	[16:51]
mats	not sure. one of my buddies linked it... prob one of the chans if i had to guess	[16:52]
ascii_field	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133238/ISIS-cage-death-Terror-group-forces-young-boys-wrestle-inside-giant-steel-ring-beats-sticks-train-generation-killers.html	[16:54]
assbot	ISIS forces boys to wrestle as they train to become next generation of killers \| Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL3YCN )	[16:54]
ascii_field	^ possible source	[16:54]
mats	looks right	[16:55]
mats	looks like good training too	[16:56]
scoopbot_revived	OpenBSD Moving sudo to Ports http://qntra.net/2015/06/openbsd-moving-sudo-to-ports/	[16:58]
ascii_field	the ritual described is at least as old as ww2. don't take my word for it, ask orwell >> http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19441229.html	[16:58]
assbot	29 December 1944 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlcbho )	[16:58]
ascii_field	rezun has a very spiffy nearly book-length description of the ru version	[17:01]
ascii_field	( http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/10.html and more )	[17:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5oxc )	[17:02]
mod6	<+mod6> asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html << updated with graphs	[17:02]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5sgx )	[17:02]
ascii_field	mod6: very spiffy	[17:02]
ascii_field	http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/classCAddress.html#ad062e258e0af8a46d0631078147211b1 << good example for folks who had no idea what this thread was about	[17:03]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: CAddress Class Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5Ew4 )	[17:03]
ascii_field	better still,	[17:04]
ascii_field	http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/classCNode.html	[17:04]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: CNode Class Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5QeN )	[17:04]
ascii_field	(the graphic)	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	"As is typical of a C++ program, a lot of code tends to end up in the header files	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	sigh	[17:05]
ascii_field	~40% of the 'mass' in therealbitcoin is in headers...	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	mmmyeah	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	whjy even bother at this point.	[17:07]
mod6	I wanna link these on the main page website.	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	just call everything .bas	[17:07]
*	ascii_field just weighed it now	[17:08]
ascii_field	just about 38 sharp.	[17:08]
ascii_field	in other nyooz, http://www.firebox.com/product/7078/Inner-Selfie-Stick?via=hp&s=1x1&t=random	[17:08]
assbot	Inner Selfie Stick - buy at Firebox.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlcZ5V )	[17:08]
mats	lol	[17:09]
ascii_field	l0l re: the rebranding of a very ordinary plumber's borescope sold pretty much everywhere	[17:10]
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mod6	!up ascii_field	[17:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00041676 = 19.5877 BTC [-] {2}	[17:25]
trinque	ascii_field: read that as firefox at first, thought it was a hell of a pivot for mozilla, lol	[17:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57450 @ 0.0004184 = 24.0371 BTC [+] {4}	[17:29]
jurov	yes, spiffy, i'm surprised... guess btc. yt will be deprecated	[17:34]
ascii_field	in other news, the 5 repaired rng units pass.	[17:36]
mircea_popescu	o hey.	[17:36]
ascii_field	(the vendor's explanation for why they failed was dpasted here a while ago, but will be reprinted in this month's broadcast.)	[17:37]
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ascii_field	jurov: actually we really still need btc.yt thing	[17:38]
ascii_field	'doxygen' doesn't appear to do the handy 'click this and see ~EVERYWHERE~ it appears' symbol concordance	[17:39]
ascii_field	why it doesn't - i have no idea	[17:39]
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mircea_popescu	prolly needs some giggling	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	anyway this looks like it's going to be an epic b-a summer. phuctor delivered, eulora came, nodes are moving, apparently cardano as well,	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	etc etc	[17:41]
ascii_field	the spice must flow. (tm) (r)	[17:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00041764 = 10.0651 BTC [-]	[17:46]
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trinque	I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this.	[17:47]
trinque	the clarity of purpose, simplicity, sheer elegance of this thing trumps every other environment I've built things in	[17:48]
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trinque	seems like an alternate history where the terminal concept developed further	[17:48]
trinque	rather than being replaced with a bunch of consumer friendly skeuomorphic shitware	[17:48]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:49]
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ascii_field	trinque: lisp (and i specifically refer to the accumulated advancements which add up to commonlisp world, rather than the barf of that field's equivalent of 'glbse' - e.g., 'clojure', 'newlisp', other halfwit retardations) handily obsoletes most of what passes for 'problems in computer science' as taught	[17:50]
ascii_field	hence you were not taught.	[17:50]
ascii_field	they'd much rather teach 'usability'	[17:50]
ascii_field	or have you contribute to 'ethereum' for course credit	[17:51]
trinque	sure, and "marketable skills" like java, c++, or c#	[17:51]
ascii_field	at 'respectable' uni they make a show of not teaching as much of ^this as they could 'because this isn't trade school after all'	[17:51]
trinque	I'm on ch3 and I can already bind data to usable UI, selectively update the display, so on	[17:52]
trinque	in what, 15 lines?	[17:52]
mod6	<+ascii_field> in other news, the 5 repaired rng units pass. << nice!	[17:52]
ascii_field	trinque: now imagine if no part of the machine were exempt.	[17:52]
*	trinque shudders to recall how the same thing looks elsewhere	[17:52]
trinque	ascii_field: I can as a novice see the foothills at least	[17:52]
ascii_field	as in, want to put disk controller registers on the screen? go, do	[17:52]
trinque	mhm	[17:52]
trinque	everything expressed as the same kind of data structures	[17:53]
trinque	can sort of see it	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	i was kinda curious when his "Everything is sql" was going to reduce.	[17:53]
trinque	when I found time for this :)	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:53]
trinque	I can see that did not go nearly far enough.	[17:55]
ascii_field	i'll note that lispmachine did not go far enough	[17:55]
ascii_field	in that it was still a von neumann arch	[17:55]
ascii_field	where cpu had to 'hand carry in a basket' from point a to b	[17:55]
trinque	we were sort of bolting postgresql to linux via foreign data wrappers like morons	[17:56]
ascii_field	rather than electrical connection in programmable grid	[17:56]
trinque	denying the underlying system like systemd does	[17:56]
trinque	"pay no attention to the linux behind the curtain"	[17:56]
ascii_field	gabriel_laddel had something in this spirit; i barfed	[17:56]
trinque	I tried to build his, couldn't	[17:56]
trinque	stuff sort of half worked	[17:57]
ascii_field	lucky	[17:57]
ascii_field	because the absolute worst thing that can happen is that this kind of monster ~walks~	[17:57]
ascii_field	i.e. that it 'works'	[17:57]
ascii_field	and folks start using.	[17:57]
ascii_field	and even - shudder - relying on it	[17:57]
trinque	yeah I begin to see why there's no real intermediate step here.	[17:58]
trinque	you end up getting lost taping the underlying thing to the interface forever	[17:58]
ascii_field	i spent the last 5 or so years looking for an intermediate point between here and ic fab	[17:58]
ascii_field	(so far did not find)	[17:59]
trinque	seems reasonable enought to resolve for the near term to just run sbcl apps on linux	[17:59]
trinque	for myself	[17:59]
ascii_field	until you want to do something like tcp	[17:59]
ascii_field	(yes, works. but now you have 'guts' in the works, and breakage paths that don't cleanly break into lisp)	[18:00]
trinque	and that's what corrupts the intermediate-step approach, it seems?	[18:00]
trinque	what I was trying to get at about tape	[18:00]
ascii_field	i actually had problems with serial ports when i did the robot thing	[18:00]
ascii_field	had to write a very ugly c hack	[18:00]
trinque	like I did a "commonqt" project	[18:00]
trinque	just ends up that I wrote c++ in lisp	[18:00]
ascii_field	yes, no way to glue qt in any rational way	[18:01]
ascii_field	it demands to own the world	[18:01]
ascii_field	(and it's been tried before)	[18:01]
ascii_field	http://cmucl-imp.cons.narkive.com/qZKFCJMj/idolino-cmucl-binding-for-qt	[18:02]
assbot	Idolino: CMUCL Binding for Qt ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyphnD )	[18:02]
ascii_field	^ i slaved to try and get that thing to run as a student	[18:02]
ascii_field	never worked	[18:02]
ascii_field	(not for me, at least)	[18:02]
trinque	commonqt ran fine; just that as I perceive it, utterly non-lispy	[18:02]
ascii_field	and at any rate, i barfed as soon as i discovered that you can't meaningfully compose qt widgets without diving back into the cpp shit pit	[18:03]
ascii_field	i.e. i wanted to bake a 'text edit' widget with clickable hyperlinks ~active during editing~	[18:03]
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ascii_field	afaik, TO THIS FUCKING DAY not a SINGLE GUI TOOLKIT will let you do that.	[18:04]
trinque	it all sees the user as a derp that would never do such a thing	[18:04]
trinque	or do you just mean dynamically in the code?	[18:04]
ascii_field	to this day, afaik, i'm the only one who ever wanted this.	[18:04]
ascii_field	no toolkit will let you do this ~at all~	[18:04]
trinque	not even clim? or only it?	[18:05]
trinque	seems clim would	[18:05]
ascii_field	clim ~might~	[18:05]
ascii_field	problem with clim is that is does not actually work (with usable response time and reliability) on any extant system	[18:05]
trinque	all I want it to do is display some stuff from postgresql and let me edit data with reasonable performance	[18:06]
trinque	maybe click a foreign key and get the row it points to	[18:06]
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trinque	so I can stop writing the same derpy app a thousand times	[18:07]
trinque	everything remotely like this is either garbage worse than excel or some shitty pile of JS (because that's what I want to do, edit my db over http)	[18:07]
trinque	anyone who has ever written an administration panel for a web thing has wasted his life	[18:08]
trinque	https://github.com/marmelab/ng-admin << garbage	[18:10]
assbot	marmelab/ng-admin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyqUlj )	[18:10]
trinque	so on, all garbage	[18:10]
ascii_field	on an entirely other level, the kernel is also garbage	[18:11]
ascii_field	for fundamentally same reason	[18:11]
ascii_field	(it being, having been written by the blind.)	[18:11]
ascii_field	because when you can't physically connect arbitrary flipflops in the machine to the screen, you're - blind.	[18:11]
trinque	I'm not qualified to say, but it does look like yet another vast C monstrosity from the outside	[18:12]
trinque	dunno how anyone could ever reason about it	[18:12]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00042236 = 14.2335 BTC [+]	[18:12]
ascii_field	about items which 'fit in head', there can - on rare occasion - be reasoning.	[18:12]
ascii_field	about other kinds - only delusion of reasoning.	[18:13]
ascii_field	(plenty of delusion to go around, though)	[18:13]
trinque	reminds me of feynman's thing about "nobody's at the wheel" or something like that	[18:13]
trinque	can't find the actual quote; something about wanting to believe that there's some conspiracy in charge of the world because it's more comfortable than the reality	[18:15]
ascii_field	evidently he never hung out with brzezinski, mr. controlled-chaos	[18:16]
ascii_field	(or wishes us to think that he did not!!111)	[18:16]
trinque	heh!	[18:17]
trinque	clearly he was a part of the shadowy cabal himself	[18:17]
ascii_field	in other lulz,	[18:17]
ascii_field	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33281896	[18:17]
assbot	French government orders Uber taxi ban after protests - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GysdR9 )	[18:17]
ascii_field	and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33296352	[18:18]
assbot	One of two escaped US prisoners killed by police - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyssvB )	[18:18]
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jurov	!up ascii_field	[18:20]
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jurov	fellows, we have with mod6 noticed disconnect between patch IDs in mailing list and in release notes	[18:21]
jurov	part is that everyone seems to hate mailman renaming them to include the ID	[18:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00042236 = 7.4758 BTC [+]	[18:21]
ascii_field	i absolutely hate it	[18:22]
ascii_field	if i wanted garbage in the name, would put it there myself.	[18:22]
jurov	yes, you prefer to name everythign "turd", i know	[18:22]
ascii_field	the hash in the name is useless, because no one signs it	[18:22]
jurov	how should we (and, the poor system for tracking the signatures), keep them?	[18:23]
ascii_field	using the given names.	[18:23]
jurov	no, i won't	[18:23]
jurov	they are not iunique already	[18:23]
ascii_field	how is asciilifeform_ver_now_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip_ebed1af0253ef629bbef4bf2b2d1a94742a81f0e.patch an improvement over asciilifeform_ver_now_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip.patch ?	[18:24]
ascii_field	i never released anything lacking a unique and modestly descriptive name	[18:24]
jurov	much better that turd.patch	[18:24]
ascii_field	and afaik this goes for the others	[18:24]
ascii_field	where is this 'turd.patch' ?	[18:24]
ascii_field	link plz	[18:24]
mod6	this is supposed to outline how to name and number the patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html	[18:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GytUhB )	[18:26]
jurov	ok ascii_field not turd , but this leaves things to be desired, too: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html	[18:27]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Gyu7RL )	[18:27]
jurov	mod6 you realized your patches are actually worst-named	[18:27]
jurov	?	[18:27]
mod6	why are they the worst?	[18:27]
ascii_field	jurov: also ought to remember, not all patches are meant as 'canonical' (that is, for eventual inclusion in the tree)	[18:28]
ascii_field	some can - must - only make sense in thread context	[18:28]
jurov	well, where is the context what is "portatronic" ought to be?	[18:29]
ascii_field	it was explained in painful detail in later discussions	[18:29]
mod6	i think the nomenclature is pretty straightforward. easy to use. you specify which base your coming off of, the patch name, and a number for any that are required to come before it.	[18:29]
ascii_field	but for those discussions to make sense, the patch had to be out there	[18:29]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177992 <<< halsey minor	[18:30]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 19:00:30; mircea_popescu: who was the other accidental windfall victim who actually WAS into bitcoin ?	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	nah	[18:30]
mod6	anyway, i like the idea of a checksum for the patches. if we can somehow hvae that without it being in the name of the patch, that would be neat.	[18:32]
ascii_field	mod6: it's in the sig!	[18:32]
ascii_field	the checksum	[18:32]
ascii_field	that is the correct place for it	[18:32]
jurov	the problem is, when i receive detached sig later	[18:32]
ascii_field	why would these ever come apart ?	[18:32]
jurov	and user is unwilling to work with patch ID the system must somehow heuristically	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	10.3M/s eta 1h 40m	[18:33]
jurov	match it to original submission	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	gotta love modern internets.	[18:33]
jurov	ascii_field: it was intended to allow other people to send singatures for patches ater they revviewed them	[18:34]
ascii_field	Ah	[18:34]
mod6	so after review you just expect or perhaps exepect to just see a .sig file attached alone without the patch itself?	[18:34]
jurov	that doesn't matter if alone or not	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field idea was to have one file multiple sigs	[18:35]
mod6	lol, i need a flow-chart	[18:35]
jurov	there must be a way to refer to original submission	[18:35]
ascii_field	easy:	[18:36]
ascii_field	pull hash out of original sig	[18:36]
jurov	if not by ID, then people must meticulously keep adhering to original name	[18:36]
ascii_field	notice that you don't even need the patch file for this	[18:36]
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ascii_field	no name shenanigans needed	[18:36]
jurov	there is lubrary for this?	[18:36]
ascii_field	just a copy of 'pgpdump'	[18:36]
ascii_field	https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pgpdump	[18:37]
assbot	pgpdump 1.5 : Python Package Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyvUq9 )	[18:37]
ascii_field	^ library	[18:37]
jurov	iirc i have searched for something liek that but did not found it	[18:37]
ascii_field	^ as used in 'phuctor'	[18:37]
jurov	you could tell earlier there's a way to get hash from signature	[18:38]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178292 << making more seedz ?	[18:38]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 21:29:11; mircea_popescu: 10.3M/s eta 1h 40m	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	well obviously.	[18:38]
ascii_field	neat	[18:38]
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felipelalli	deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jTk05D5d	[18:39]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GywpQU )	[18:39]
deedbot-	rejected: 1	[18:39]
felipelalli	!s deedbot	[18:41]
assbot	1100 results for 'deedbot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=deedbot	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	!gettrust assbot felipelalli	[18:42]
assbot	Trust relationship from user assbot to user felipelalli: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=felipelalli \| http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/felipelalli/	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	ED5CDE14 that's the right key...	[18:43]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178148 << will add to this. in every single field i dive into, i find these 'lisps' - i.e., the ~actual~ state-of-the-art buried under piles of shit strategically crapped out by one, two, more generations of mediocrities	[18:43]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 20:43:32; trinque: I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this.	[18:43]
felipelalli	mircea_popescu: Signature made Sex 26 Jun 2015 18:32:29 BRT using RSA key ID ED5CDE14	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	sex srsly ?	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	trinque any idea why deedbnot barfs at him ?	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field they're merely trying to survive and perpetuate, them mediocrities.a	[18:45]
ascii_field	aha, like cockroaches	[18:45]
mod6	ascii_field: hey, i'm having a tough time getting the hash itself out of a sig file of mine with that python version of pgpdump. which flag should i be using; i've tried 'em all	[18:45]
ascii_field	mod6: -a	[18:46]
ascii_field	and -i	[18:46]
felipelalli	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt	[18:47]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GyxOqJ )	[18:47]
deedbot-	rejected: 1	[18:47]
felipelalli	trying with dpaste now. :/	[18:47]
mod6	dpaste.com/1G0JNPE.txt	[18:48]
trinque	lemme see	[18:48]
trinque	it's not the site though, I'm allowing any	[18:48]
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jurov	!up ascii_field	[18:50]
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jurov	app-crypt/pgpdump indeed does not show the hash (and it's not python but binary)	[18:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00041928 = 22.5992 BTC [-] {2}	[18:51]
ascii_field	wrong pgpdump	[18:51]
jurov	and dev-python/pgpdump has docs dunno where	[18:51]
ascii_field	(yes, there are two proggies by same name)	[18:51]
mod6	it's the one you linked above though 'H?	[18:51]
mod6	*eh	[18:51]
ascii_field	jurov is right though, the one for which i gave the args is the c proggy	[18:52]
ascii_field	the py one comes with example code iirc	[18:52]
jurov	ic	[18:53]
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trinque	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt	[18:53]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1fKEhbF )	[18:53]
deedbot-	rejected: 1	[18:53]
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felipelalli	the bot is in a bad mood today.	[18:54]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56050 @ 0.00040243 = 22.5562 BTC [-] {2}	[19:00]
mod6	ok, i think this thing installed, but i can't figure out how to get it to run lol.	[19:01]
mod6	good ole python	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	bah. from the wunderbar world of undocumented linux gotchas : if you're transferring a file over 2gb, either curl or wget will go into "download one burst, rest for 30 seconds" mode and that's that.	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	wtf!	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	!up ielo	[19:02]
-assbot-	You voiced ielo for 30 minutes.	[19:02]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: never saw this!	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	me either, before now.	[19:03]
ascii_field	not on any box of mine	[19:03]
ascii_field	and i routinely move 100G+	[19:03]
jurov	looks like server problem	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	26.5G 0 32.3M 0 0 54811 0 6d 00h 0:10:19 6d 00h 86885	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	26.5G 0 32.6M 0 0 54181 0 6d 02h 0:10:31 6d 01h 0	[19:03]
ielo	mircea_popescu, < why does this retard gossip like a 12 year old and you guys believe it?	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	get a load of that.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	the thing will burst ~3mb, then stop. then burst again then stop.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	ielo who are you exactly ?	[19:04]
ielo	mircea_popescu, i'm just sick of your shit you've independently claimed like 3 people i know are scammers and your life is literally gossiping on the internet	[19:05]
ielo	sorry i think you need to stop	[19:05]
jurov	anyway, looks pgpdump monkeys never bothered to pull actual hash out :/	[19:05]
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mats	jurov: say again?	[19:05]
ielo	mircea_popescu, i think you need mental help	[19:05]
mats	ielo: which people? name them.	[19:05]
ascii_field	anybody got a vivisection table open for the monkey ?	[19:05]
trinque	if only we had the nordic system, somebody would help poor mircea_popescu	[19:05]
ascii_field	mine are occupied	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	they have the southern system here.	[19:06]
ielo	amir taak, andrew miller 2 main ones	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	bwahaha	[19:06]
jurov	mats the data structure i get does include "hash_algorithm" but ntohing resembling actual hash	[19:06]
mats	oh, those are scammers.	[19:06]
ielo	you are such a shitty person	[19:06]
mats	sorry bud	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	maybe if your friends would stop scamming / being retarded pieces of shit i wouldn't have to care about their otherwise meaningless existences ?	[19:06]
ielo	fuck off	[19:06]
ielo	mircea_popescu, you literally dedicate your life to gossiping about shit you know nothing about	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	seriously, taaki ?	[19:06]
ielo	sorry but i remember you	[19:07]
ielo	from bitcoin conference in london	[19:07]
ielo	you are such a piece of shit	[19:07]
mats	jurov: are you saying a pgpdump fn you are calling is misbehaving?	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	umm.	[19:07]
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mircea_popescu	ielo would this be the conference where tyhat fucktard nefario told everyone about how mpex is going to be going to jale two weeks before going to jale ?	[19:07]
mats	trying to figure out if its the library or the thing you're wrenching is at fault	[19:07]
mats	i am using pgpdump for a project and this is relevant	[19:08]
ielo	mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you?	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	motherfucker. and ~confirmed~ that the problem does not exist for files under 2gb.	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	what the fucking hell already nothing works!	[19:09]
ielo	its really sad that this is your life	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	1 28.5G 1 314M 0 0 10.0M 0 0:48:17 0:00:31 0:47:46 13.7M	[19:09]
jurov	mats as the .sig file verifies, the hash must be therein	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	i guess im back to slicing archives. ima call them .rar too, in memory of the old days	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	back when everything fucking worked.	[19:09]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: you can still get actual rar..	[19:09]
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mircea_popescu	anyone know right off how i slice a file into fixed sdized chunks ?	[19:10]
ascii_field	'split'	[19:11]
ascii_field	e.g., 'split -b 2048m foo.gz'	[19:11]
mod6	yeah split	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	aty.	[19:12]
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mircea_popescu	split is slow.	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	anyway, ascii_field, apparently the dean is asking some questions eh ?	[19:17]
ascii_field	oh!!!	[19:17]
ascii_field	?	[19:17]
*	ascii_field did not expect any response	[19:17]
mircea_popescu	well ?	[19:17]
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mircea_popescu	chicklet's the sister of one/wife of the other or viceversa.	[19:18]
ascii_field	what kinda questions	[19:18]
ascii_field	l0l	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	so yeah, why do you people believe me that in fact miller & elaine whatever actually ran an unapproved scam on u of maryland dime ?!?!?	[19:19]
shinohai	@ ielo Sr. mircea_popescu is quite adept at revealing scammers is probably why.	[19:19]
ascii_field	the one part i'm unclear on is why the scam needed programmers at all	[19:20]
ascii_field	iirc 'ethereum' never shipped gadget	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	you read that story about the guy developing a drm thing for the palm pilot ?	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	because that's how you hoodwink investors, that's why!	[19:20]
mats	the coward fled already, felipelalli	[19:20]
*	assbot removes voice from ascii_field	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[19:21]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[19:21]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_field	[19:21]
felipelalli	thank you mats! Should I retry or my doc is already published?	[19:21]
ascii_field	vaguely recall the drm thing	[19:21]
mats	er, trinque is the maintainer	[19:21]
ascii_field	'market wants fuffles'	[19:21]
felipelalli	deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt	[19:22]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1fKEhbF )	[19:22]
trinque	working on it bud	[19:22]
felipelalli	ah!	[19:22]
trinque	I'll make sure it goes out	[19:22]
trinque	just python string nonsense; I should've written this part in bash	[19:22]
felipelalli	Ah! The problem is the "ã" char!! hahahah	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	ohohohoh. more python spaghetti ?	[19:23]
trinque	felipelalli: as always	[19:23]
trinque	this is just about past my shoot-in-head threshold	[19:23]
felipelalli	GPG is a little tricky with charsets.	[19:23]
trinque	gpg likes your doc just fine, and python has your doc as a string identical to what was provided	[19:23]
trinque	smells like python-gnupg being a piece of shit	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	split just crashed o.O	[19:24]
ascii_field	yeah at some point ~new~ phuctor will run over all the weirdos with non-latinate chars in namestring of key	[19:24]
felipelalli	the bod would cry with a Japanese doc!! :D	[19:24]
felipelalli	*bot	[19:25]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178455 << hey, i had 'strings' crash.	[19:25]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 22:20:15; mircea_popescu: split just crashed o.O	[19:25]
trinque	felipelalli: ascii was good enough for the lord and it's good enough for me!	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	atm i suspect it's doing something windows-retarded like "load whole file in memory, split it as a php array, write the result through type conversion"	[19:26]
trinque	jk	[19:26]
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felipelalli	asciilifeform agreed.	[19:27]
jurov	mats, ascii_field pursuant to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880#section-5.2.2 ,the pgpdump lib stops parsing right on the "Two-octet field holding left 16 bits of signed hash value" and does not go further to decode the signature	[19:27]
assbot	RFC 4880 - OpenPGP Message Format ... ( http://bit.ly/1fKM09u )	[19:27]
jurov	teh joy	[19:28]
felipelalli	That's why Bitbet.us hate weirdo chars?	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	it's slower to split than to upload o.O	[19:29]
felipelalli	trinque: if I add the option --charset=utf-8 when signing, helps something?	[19:29]
trinque	felipelalli: nah your doc's fine	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	jurov motherfucker! WHO DOES THESE THINGS	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	srsly, two octets should be enough for everyone ? this is how it is ?	[19:30]
jurov	yes, apparently they balked at decnsing "pkcs1" stuff	[19:31]
jurov	*decoding	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform srsly, split takes 10 minutes for a 1 gb. upload takes 1 minute.	[19:31]
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jurov	alternatively, maybe curl can be asked to download ranges (if server supports it)	[19:32]
mircea_popescu	i tried that with -C but no dice.	[19:32]
jurov	what's on the other end?	[19:32]
mod6	can you use rsync instead?	[19:33]
jurov	maybe there's some dummy PHP script on server that chokes when hit 2G mem limit	[19:33]
jurov	(obv such tasks should bypass PHP completely)	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	i dun think php is in any way involved.	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	mod6 i think i will try rsync yeah	[19:35]
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mircea_popescu	so far this has been an exercise in ridiculous.	[19:36]
trinque	deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt	[19:36]
deedbot-	accepted: 1	[19:36]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Cz9Tpw )	[19:36]
mats	jurov: and this behavior is the same across c pgpdump and python port?	[19:36]
mod6	~ how big is the file?	[19:36]
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mircea_popescu	bout 40 gib	[19:36]
mats	port as to be found on 'pypi'	[19:36]
mod6	ah, well, if you hvae a solid inet connection you can always try scp as a last resort if you have a shell on the target environment too.	[19:36]
trinque	I "fixed" that by telling python-gnupg to use utf-8 internally as per their docs	[19:36]
trinque	that iirc might've caused problems with other characters (though I don't recall which) so someone ping me if they have trouble with that in the future.	[19:37]
mats	sorry for repeated queries, am mobile atm	[19:37]
jurov	mats, since the python one is written to be "inspired by C pgpdump", it's very likely it does not, too	[19:37]
jurov	trinque what???	[19:37]
trinque	jurov: what what	[19:37]
trinque	;;later tell felipelalli your doc went through	[19:38]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[19:38]
jurov	trinque: oh nm, you' re about deedbot, not about RFC 4880	[19:38]
trinque	ah yeah	[19:38]
jurov	and no pkcs py decoding code in sight. apparently imma invert this by hand: https://github.com/bdauvergne/python-pkcs1/blob/master/pkcs1/emsa_pkcs1_v15.py	[19:43]
assbot	python-pkcs1/emsa_pkcs1_v15.py at master · bdauvergne/python-pkcs1 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CzaqYB )	[19:43]
trinque	"presentation types" << o hey look another thing I built shittily in der database	[19:53]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178406 <<< eh that was me!	[19:54]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 22:04:45; ielo: mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you?	[19:54]
cazalla	can't help but think of this scene when somebody asks what the fuck type of person are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBP522x0xI	[19:55]
assbot	GoodFellas Full "What's Wrong With You" Scene - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fKSIwo )	[19:55]
jurov	The concatenation of the data to be signed, the signature type, and creation time ... is hashed.	[19:59]
jurov	^ so the sig is useless for out purposes	[20:00]
jurov	*our	[20:00]
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jurov	asciilifeform: ^ we're back to using our own patch hashes somehow	[20:02]
mod6	i can't figure out how to get the hash out either, the best i've seen is that "digest algo 10, best of digest 23 49" gives you 2 bytes.	[20:02]
mod6	s/best/begin/	[20:03]
jurov	mod6 they append date and whatnot to data prior to hashing anyway	[20:04]
mod6	oh, is that per the RFC you pastd?	[20:04]
jurov	ya	[20:04]
jurov	the PGP monkeys just did not foresaw any need to put into signature hash of signed document alone	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	wait what ?!	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	cazalla lmao srsly ?	[20:10]
mircea_popescu	i thought that btcentralplus.com thing is in england.	[20:11]
mod6	haha cazalla, great movie.	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	cazalla Jun 26 16:23:33 * amiller (~socrates1@unaffiliated/socrates1024) has joined #bitcoin-assets << also ?	[20:13]
cazalla	word spreads quickly eh	[20:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00039016 = 6.9448 BTC [-] {2}	[20:15]
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mats	!up amiller	[20:19]
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mircea_popescu	in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6r9f19Yny1r2weuio1_1280.jpg	[20:21]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1fKYQ7I )	[20:21]
mats	what brings you here, amiller	[20:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49850 @ 0.00039258 = 19.5701 BTC [+]	[21:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.00038934 = 18.4352 BTC [-] {2}	[21:10]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00039258 = 7.6553 BTC [+]	[21:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00039258 = 4.7698 BTC [+]	[21:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32563 @ 0.00039258 = 12.7836 BTC [+]	[21:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00039258 = 9.4808 BTC [+]	[21:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17323 @ 0.00038953 = 6.7478 BTC [-] {2}	[21:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40877 @ 0.00038779 = 15.8517 BTC [-]	[21:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25170 @ 0.00038736 = 9.7499 BTC [-] {2}	[22:00]
mats	https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue	[22:13]
assbot	PGP Key Generator - iGolder	[22:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39787 @ 0.00039258 = 15.6196 BTC [+]	[22:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32228 @ 0.00038939 = 12.5493 BTC [-] {2}	[22:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39671 @ 0.00039991 = 15.8648 BTC [+] {2}	[22:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00040161 = 9.1366 BTC [+]	[22:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00040198 = 10.1701 BTC [+]	[22:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040198 = 15.436 BTC [+]	[22:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17914 @ 0.00042164 = 7.5533 BTC [+] {3}	[22:50]
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decimation	mats: is that server-side or does it generate key in javascript?	[22:56]
decimation	mircea_popescu: is your "forever living" comment a slight on "young living"?	[22:58]
mats	it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work	[23:01]
decimation	mats: yeah because server-side would be obviously retarded	[23:01]
mats	or genius	[23:01]
decimation	heh	[23:01]
mircea_popescu	no, thereeis scam	[23:10]
mircea_popescu	;;google forever living aloe vera	[23:10]
gribble	Forever Living Products - Benefits of Aloe: ; Aloe Vera Gel - Forever Living Products International: ; Forever Living Products \| Aloe Vera Products \| Multi-Level Marketing ...:	[23:10]
decimation	heh	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	they sell aloe vera for everytying	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	(/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches)	[23:11]
decimation	no doubt some plant extracts can solve medical issues	[23:14]
decimation	but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	this thing is strictly separated from any consideration but sales.	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	aloe vera is useful in dermatology.	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	they're selling two gallon potable extract	[23:15]
decimation	heh	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e	[23:15]
decimation	I've had aloe vera yogurt before	[23:15]
decimation	it was weird	[23:15]
mircea_popescu	incidentally ben_ meh	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?	[23:20]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[23:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25736 @ 0.00042369 = 10.9041 BTC [+] {2}	[23:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00041848 = 1.6321 BTC [-]	[23:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45423 @ 0.0004237 = 19.2457 BTC [+]	[23:43]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ever seen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1120 ?	[23:46]
assbot	already have block - causing bandwidth to be wasted - vicious circle? · Issue #1120 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TTgCpc )	[23:46]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the article or the effect described therein ?	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	"works as intended"	[23:47]
asciilifeform	almost certain i've seen the effect.	[23:47]
asciilifeform	in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit.	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[23:48]
asciilifeform	aaaand notice what the bugger proposes as 'solution on the way'	[23:48]
asciilifeform	under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.'	[23:49]
asciilifeform	guess what 2964 was.	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	i linked you lol, i dun need to guess	[23:49]
asciilifeform	aha	[23:49]
asciilifeform	addressing studio audience!	[23:49]
decimation	delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?	[23:50]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178565 << and apparently also good for >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177279	[23:50]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 02:10:49; mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology.	[23:50]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg	[23:50]
asciilifeform	http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << still up...	[23:51]
assbot	CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRrmCS )	[23:51]
*	asciilifeform a little surprised	[23:51]
decimation	asciilifeform: you should audit the class	[23:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	i really dun expect it'll soon go down.	[23:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: plus it's in working hours	[23:52]
decimation	ah yeah	[23:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26941 @ 0.00042 = 11.3152 BTC [-]	[23:54]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178590 << tx nuke does this	[23:56]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 02:46:03; decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?	[23:56]
decimation	asciilifeform: yeah I was being silly	[23:57]

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