Forum logs for 26 Feb 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu in random weird from canada news, http://www.philo5.com/Feminisme-Masculisme/890612%20Lettre%20de%20Marc%20Lepine.htm [00:15]
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deedbot- [Qntra] US Farmers Shift To Complete Loss Control Mode As Corn Belt Keeps Fraying - http://qntra.net/2016/02/us-farmers-shift-to-complete-loss-control-mode-as-corn-belt-keeps-fraying/ [00:18]
mats http://log.b-a.link/?date=26-02-2016#1415729 << this looks like fun. would give me a reason to put my 'facedancer' board to use, fuzz some signed windows drivers [00:19]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 01:39:07; mircea_popescu: actually, maybe s.nsa should release some basic code so every script kiddy with enough money to buy an usb can evil maid the shit out of any office space he can get into. [00:19]
mircea_popescu not to discourage creativity, but considering what we're discussing here, something absolutely ridiculous would problably work just fine. gif/tiff/whatever exploit relying on windows computer autoplays sticks, for instance. [00:21]
mircea_popescu iirc the gfx were still full of holes, today as in 2005. [00:21]
mircea_popescu the fonts are prolly also full of holes, and who knows what else even [00:22]
mats tons of fonts bugs in the wild, yes [00:22]
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danielpbarron Guest86209, you've met gmaxwell and Luke-Jr ? [00:26]
BingoBoingo You couldn't go wrong with something that targets all 3 to 4 generations of stuxnet hole [00:29]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415773 << megafamous, uncle al had an essay re: it. [00:35]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 03:13:13; mircea_popescu: in random weird from canada news, http://www.philo5.com/Feminisme-Masculisme/890612%20Lettre%20de%20Marc%20Lepine.htm [00:35]
asciilifeform ~the~ canadian p0stal. [00:36]
asciilifeform for piglet!!111 [00:36]
BingoBoingo Mortadella!!! [00:37]
mircea_popescu aha [00:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems kinda bizarre. i still don't get what exactly an assortment of old prunes clining on to their delusions of feminity did to him. [00:43]
mircea_popescu this is what always gets me about these "i was hurt by feminism" fellows : nigga, say wut ?! the club of bingo ladies who still like to wear skirts bothered you ?! da fuck were you doing at the bingo parlour ?! [00:44]
asciilifeform lepine wanted 'me tooo' [00:46]
mircea_popescu me too what ? [00:46]
asciilifeform was none too happy with the 'reich for women' thing [00:46]
mircea_popescu wassat ? [00:46]
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asciilifeform recall the train seats? [00:46]
asciilifeform that. [00:47]
mircea_popescu and ~feminists~ did that ?! [00:47]
asciilifeform hey nobody said the fella was bright. [00:47]
mircea_popescu lemme guess, and meninists did the 90s porn revolution ? not digicams ? [00:47]
mircea_popescu actually yeah, the psychs iirc said he was bright. [00:48]
asciilifeform perhaps compared to the available sample of cattle, sure. [00:48]
mircea_popescu i guess. the problem still stands tho. all these dudes "hurt by feminism" are like the wolf complaining spam cans broke his teeth. [00:49]
mircea_popescu what the fuck were you doing eating cans! [00:49]
asciilifeform the answer is - being a wolf with nothing but spam can. [00:49]
asciilifeform what else. [00:49]
mircea_popescu but this is absurd. for one thing the twain shall never meet. [00:50]
mircea_popescu where does a wolf even fucking encounter a can [00:50]
asciilifeform in demented zoo, where else. [00:50]
mircea_popescu so your idea is that this 20something mousy french guy had a thing for older women, they kept rejecting him [00:50]
mircea_popescu so he decided to shoot a bunch of polytechnic students ? [00:51]
asciilifeform iirc they were 'diversity admits'. [00:51]
mircea_popescu the very notion, he hates feminists so he shoots adolescents. i suppose if he hated policeman he'd have shot plumbers. [00:51]
mircea_popescu i dunno, 5-10 in 50-60 is about what females traditionally do at polytechnic. [00:52]
mircea_popescu was same in 50s, was same in 80s, ro, ru, fr, wherever. [00:52]
asciilifeform postal folks tend to shoot he closest approximation they can get to. [00:52]
mircea_popescu so he couldn't get to nursing home ? [00:52]
asciilifeform *the [00:52]
mircea_popescu shoot a bunch of women at jewish home, about 54098564096056% more feminist per bullet. [00:53]
asciilifeform where are you even getting the older thing [00:53]
mircea_popescu what do you mean ? [00:53]
asciilifeform nobody gives a fuck re old women [00:53]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204561 << re: killing plumbers [00:53]
assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 14:41:07; assbot: Terry Gilliam's Movie Brazil - Plumbers' Nasty End - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXTyV ) [00:53]
mircea_popescu so then what is all this talking of feminists as if one gives a shit ? [00:53]
asciilifeform it is a boojum in the mind of specific certain people, and it is invariably a reasonably young chick [00:54]
asciilifeform of the 'недавашка' (how do english that??) flavour. [00:55]
mircea_popescu yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find. [00:55]
mircea_popescu occasionally they get going some effort to reform this or that about the sport in question [00:55]
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mircea_popescu THAT is your feminists. who the fuck cares, really. [00:55]
mircea_popescu so talk show hosts don't like how the ball's being swung ? [00:56]
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asciilifeform anyway the mega-question is, who ought he have shot? [00:57]
asciilifeform that he could get to. [00:57]
mircea_popescu self-described feminist is, definitionally, old-gendered person that hasn't yet come to terms with it, still sees self as female. [00:57]
mircea_popescu in what sense it'd be the case is anyone's guess, but whatever. [00:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform if he ACTUALLY hated feminists, he seriouslty should have light up a jewish old folks home. [00:58]
mircea_popescu either "gender" also, da fuck difference does it make by then. [00:58]
asciilifeform he wanted to plug ~powerful~ [00:58]
asciilifeform not alzheimers, wtf [00:58]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha so he shot some students ? [00:58]
asciilifeform aha [00:58]
mircea_popescu come on. wtf power, in what world are students anything but the subway chewinggum on people's soles. [00:59]
asciilifeform as breivik, later [00:59]
asciilifeform 'make the next batch think' maybe it was, in his head.. [00:59]
mircea_popescu i suppose... [00:59]
mircea_popescu think what, "don't be a feminist or you might get plugged" ? [01:00]
asciilifeform nfi [01:00]
mircea_popescu seems deeply uninformed as to how biological processes with a cognitive component work in humans. [01:00]
mircea_popescu every adolescent slut promises herself she'll be anything but her mother, [01:00]
mircea_popescu every 40something ex-adolescent slut is EXACTLY her mother. [01:01]
asciilifeform this is as far as i'm able to follow the thought process before it ceases to make sense. [01:01]
mircea_popescu not like what she resolves to do or not do in one phase has any fucking bearing on the next. [01:01]
asciilifeform no shit [01:01]
mircea_popescu for that matter, every insecure, death-fearing derp promises himself he'll do himself in before he's too decreipt [01:01]
mircea_popescu every decrepit ex-insecure derp, still death-fearing, happily drools on the side of hte ouch [01:02]
asciilifeform this too is malnutrition! [01:02]
asciilifeform Insufficient millimorts. [01:02]
asciilifeform in modern 'diet'. [01:02]
mircea_popescu possibly. [01:03]
mircea_popescu anyway. no sane girl / young woman ever becomes a feminist because she WANTS to become a feminist. they spend more on creams than you spend on hardware. [01:03]
mircea_popescu they just fucking age into it, and it doesn't ask them./ [01:04]
asciilifeform explain the 20yo ones then. [01:04]
mircea_popescu the 20yo ones whats [01:04]
asciilifeform feminists. [01:04]
asciilifeform and they are in every other liberasty also. [01:04]
mircea_popescu maybe we don't share a definition. feminist = inept old prune with nothing better to do than drone on about things nobody gives a shit about. [01:04]
asciilifeform 'free paaaalestine!!1' [01:05]
mircea_popescu what 20 yo feminist ? show me one. [01:05]
mircea_popescu it'll be either a chick nobody could conceivably want for any purpose, so basically an old prune before her time, [01:05]
asciilifeform visit usa ccollege campus. any of'em. [01:05]
mircea_popescu or else a total coy princess fucking with people's nerves. which - is fine and good, but it's not in any sense a feminist [01:05]
mircea_popescu at least not more than the chick claiming lesbianism to escape inept advances is actually gay. [01:06]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform and i'd see what i and anyone else always and forever sees on college campuses. a buncha dizzy cows of either gender. what! [01:06]
mircea_popescu the dudes are programmers about as much as the chicks are feminists. [01:07]
mircea_popescu and all of them secret agents, astronauts, power rangers and teenage neutered minja turtles or w/e it was. [01:08]
mircea_popescu ganja ? [01:08]
mircea_popescu i forget. [01:08]
danielpbarron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4KFNhxibec << re: killing jewish old folks [01:16]
assbot Brazil - 2 - Terror at Lunch.avi - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oz5tn2 ) [01:16]
mircea_popescu these are rich tho [01:17]
mircea_popescu feminists are ~what lawyers used to be in the gilt age [01:18]
mircea_popescu about as poor as church mice, the dumb runts in the litter. [01:18]
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ben_vulpes http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here [02:20]
assbot The Lisp Curse ... ( http://bit.ly/1paQdIo ) [02:20]
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adlai !s meth lsd lisp [02:30]
assbot 1 results for 'meth lsd lisp' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meth+lsd+lisp [02:30]
mircea_popescu possibly because nobody here really gives much of a shit about attempt #whatever to misrepresent the world in terms of "herd good, individual bad" yadda yadda ? [02:44]
mircea_popescu for that same money, "tmsr will fail because it won't be able to hire enough starbucks barristas and bitcoin will fail because it won't be able to get enough poor africans to spam the blockchain with their irrelevant, unwelcome dust txn" [02:47]
mircea_popescu The Lisp Curse does not contradict the maxim of Stanislav Datskovskiy: Employers much prefer that workers be fungible, rather than maximally productive. [02:50]
mircea_popescu holy shit someone quoted alf. [02:50]
mircea_popescu is the world ending ? [02:50]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [02:50]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MTGBAC.txt ) [02:50]
mircea_popescu "With some justice, JavaScript has been described as "Scheme in C's clothing" despite originating in those cube farm hells." [02:51]
mircea_popescu omfg this is epic trollage 10/10 [02:51]
mircea_popescu i hope he never read it [02:51]
mircea_popescu javascript! [02:51]
mircea_popescu "The reason why this doesn't happen is because of the Lisp Curse. Large numbers of Lisp hackers would have to cooperate with each other. Look more closely: Large numbers of the kind of people who become Lisp hackers would have to cooperate with each other. And they would have to cooperate with each other on a design which was not already a given from the beginning. And there wouldn't be any external discipline, such as [02:53]
mircea_popescu a venture capitalist or other corporate master, to keep them on track." [02:53]
mircea_popescu mk, i'm done reading. herpitty-derp, "the only way things can be done is by obama and i wonder why those other people havent' come to an alternative to obama that's obama ? I KNOW! because they can't, that's why! it'd be obama. ha-ha!!1" [02:54]
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mircea_popescu but if i like the way rudolf the winestockdeer thinks and designs websites, i'll surely hire him. [02:55]
mircea_popescu meanwhile in post-party news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/fffc2ad60334d81c4aebe76ff715f5d5/tumblr_nhz4s9U3aT1t0quw8o1_1280.jpg [02:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QhrtZ0 ) [02:55]
ben_vulpes someone quoted alf << and in 2011 even [02:56]
mircea_popescu ima go think and designed some webtits-es. laters. [02:57]
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punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcHQ6SoXEAAZQuW.jpg:large [05:31]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1R6hIcH ) [05:31]
punkman http://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2016-02-24/startups-pitch-vcs-from-freezing-water [05:35]
assbot Startups Pitch VCs From Freezing Water - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1R6ibvm ) [05:35]
punkman "When set to blocksonly a node behaves normally but sends and receives no loose transactions; instead it handles only complete blocks. Blocksonly reduced the node's bandwidth usage by 88%." [05:37]
punkman https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/47o1h4/anxpro_suspended_bank_wires_10_days_ago_was/ [05:47]
assbot ANXPRO suspended Bank Wires 10 days ago ... was supposed to only last 48 hours. Time to withdraw my coins ? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TCyUuZ ) [05:47]
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punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaPohceWkAA26fc.jpg [07:16]
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mircea_popescu Time to withdraw my coins ? <<< naaaaa [09:29]
mircea_popescu worst possible time to withdraw coins is FUCKING IMMEDIATELY. best possible time is you know, two weeks after the thing disappears. gooooooo reddit! [09:30]
shinohai kek [09:30]
mircea_popescu actually the blocksonly thing is not even stupid. [09:31]
mircea_popescu difference between mempool-node and blockchain-node should have been made day one, but hey. day 3000 also not bad. [09:31]
mircea_popescu in somewhat other news, http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116653 [09:43]
assbot Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XPA1bf ) [09:43]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415887 << saw this snore ages ago when it appeared in my www logs [10:10]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 05:18:19; ben_vulpes: http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here [10:10]
asciilifeform still snore. [10:10]
mircea_popescu aww [10:11]
mircea_popescu y u no surprise. [10:11]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415896 << there used to be a regular thing of 'i can't actually refute but hete's 10,001 random words' claptrap re: my www [10:12]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 05:47:49; mircea_popescu: holy shit someone quoted alf. [10:12]
asciilifeform *here [10:12]
asciilifeform l0l the old dayz, when i used to write... [10:18]
mircea_popescu aww! [10:22]
mircea_popescu you still write, just... lines. [10:22]
asciilifeform i meant, for the heathens. [10:24]
mircea_popescu a a [10:24]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1415942 << set min fee to some ridiculous value, and you have a block-only relay...! [10:34]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 12:29:29; mircea_popescu: difference between mempool-node and blockchain-node should have been made day one, but hey. day 3000 also not bad. [10:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, you still talk the txn before rejecting them. [10:35]
mircea_popescu the idea is to not send getx [10:35]
asciilifeform ah [10:35]
asciilifeform this would not be a very useful node other than for bootstrapping nodes..? [10:37]
mircea_popescu and preserving tghe history and WHAT THE FUCK ALREADY. [10:37]
mircea_popescu who puts tits and cunt on the same organic item ? [10:37]
mircea_popescu separate. weren't you talking about separation as the basis of engineering ? what became of that ? [10:38]
asciilifeform ok i can think of 3 or 4 uses [10:38]
asciilifeform but i will have you know that i don't cut the tits from the rest. [10:38]
asciilifeform or the legs off the table. [10:39]
mircea_popescu not even after it's cooked ? [10:39]
asciilifeform only then. [10:39]
mircea_popescu aok [10:39]
mircea_popescu maybe there is japanesehope for you. [10:39]
asciilifeform l0l! [10:40]
mircea_popescu (me as a small child spent a while lost in this entire separator mode) [10:40]
mircea_popescu the value of a toy being ~proportional with an exponential of its separability. [10:40]
asciilifeform i thought everyone had [10:40]
mircea_popescu old pocket watch - best toy. all other toys, downgrade from there. [10:40]
asciilifeform aha! [10:40]
asciilifeform anyway i kinda made this node when did the eatblock experiment. [10:42]
asciilifeform that was when i learned of the 2 leak types [10:42]
asciilifeform (blkindex and the tx retardation) [10:43]
deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.06000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b121 [10:46]
mircea_popescu aha [10:47]
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mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKKakt2tDQA [11:16]
assbot trupa ASIA Suna periculos @ TEO by Danyel Cta 360p - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pc7h0L ) [11:16]
phf ben_vulpes: http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here << it's a whole genre, with roots in usenet days. "~i~ of course grok lisp, but the masses won't, so i use perl, which is as good, so ya'll should stop whatever you're doing". has the standard reaction of "where the fuck are you idiots coming from". naggum gained his notoriety mostly by arguing with these people, [11:36]
phf unsuccessfully [11:36]
mircea_popescu more importantly - arguing with these people FROM A POSITION OF EQUALITY. [11:37]
mircea_popescu it'd necessarily be and remain unsuccessful, for as long as naggum thinks socialism works, the idiots keep spawning. they come... from him. [11:38]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: let's say he... hadn't. what then ? [11:47]
mircea_popescu you can't posit a negative. [11:48]
asciilifeform why the fuck not ? [11:49]
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mircea_popescu because you have to posit something that can be. negatives can't be - that's what they are, non-being. [11:49]
mircea_popescu if you prefer - you can't meta-posit. plox posit like common folk, dismoun. [11:49]
asciilifeform fine, let's say he had argued from a position of man-cockroach superiority [11:49]
mircea_popescu dismount* [11:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so he has a) other men ; b) some good reason he's entertaining cockroaches ? [11:50]
mircea_popescu example : [11:50]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2014#792152 [11:50]
assbot Logged on 12-08-2014 02:19:55; mircea_popescu: you don't get to say how these debates work. again, because bitcoin. [11:50]
mircea_popescu understand that it is never upon the cockroach to explain why man doesn't have house. that's what the duality is all about. [11:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: recall, eventually he woke up to the futility of entertaining cockroaches. [11:52]
asciilifeform naggum died in '09, his last usened post - circa '04. [11:52]
mircea_popescu this is not for a second what's spoken of here. [11:52]
asciilifeform *usenet [11:52]
mircea_popescu so bum in train station woke up to futility of entertaining cockroaches ? and what, moved on to rats ? [11:52]
asciilifeform moved on to ????. [11:53]
mircea_popescu how about get a fucking job, buy a house... [11:53]
mircea_popescu bum that died in ditch, whether he was or was not playing with cockrtoaches in the few minutes prior, still was and died a bum. [11:53]
asciilifeform my understanding is that herr n. had money, which was then taken by the crown, the story is in the logz. [11:54]
mircea_popescu perhaps. [11:54]
mircea_popescu point remains - no house, how are you man ? [11:54]
mircea_popescu boy, perhaps ? [11:54]
mircea_popescu one day to be man ? [11:54]
asciilifeform for this question, not to me, but straight to primo levi's 'if this is a man'. [11:54]
phf i think on top of his fine personal qualities, naggum had an unhealthy obsession, because the system was new and there was no hygiene [11:54]
asciilifeform (concerning auschwitz.) [11:54]
mircea_popescu phf i do not say this necessarily to bellitle the man in question. but the matter must be said i nthe plainest terms for posteriority. [11:55]
mircea_popescu aristotle also did not have condoms, to his detriment, but readily excused. [11:55]
asciilifeform i still want to know what mircea_popescu sees naggum as ought to have done. [11:56]
mircea_popescu made b-a. [11:56]
asciilifeform out of what ? [11:56]
mircea_popescu bitch, what is this! [11:56]
mircea_popescu "make a house" "out of what" "fuck you." [11:56]
asciilifeform srsly bitcoin did not exist. [11:56]
mircea_popescu so ? [11:56]
asciilifeform l. davinci had a better chance of building a radio set. [11:56]
mircea_popescu so ? [11:56]
asciilifeform than naggum - b-a. [11:56]
mircea_popescu what the fuck do you think this is, school ? [11:56]
mircea_popescu "but teacher, this shouldn't be on the exam, we didn't have it in class!" [11:57]
mircea_popescu everything is on the exam. including stuff from the future. [11:57]
mircea_popescu better get good at reading the future. [11:57]
asciilifeform one day, martian ship lands on mircea_popescu's roof. with difficulty, commander directs him to build a new bzorktl to replace the burned out one. [11:57]
asciilifeform but yes, condom is on aristotle's exam. [11:58]
phf b-a restructured my thinking about how to talk to people, "oh hey ~you~ engaged ~me~, and i'm no longer entertained". to some extent naggum taught a lot of lispers on how to deal with trolls. i saw edi weitz engaged on this subject by random derps at conferences, he nods, politely, once or twice, then walks away. and not just him. but naggum example is very specific to troll engagement, so.. [11:58]
mircea_popescu phf not a matter of trolls, mind. [11:58]
asciilifeform phf: it is an astonishingly valuable tool. [11:59]
mircea_popescu trolls are quite respectable fellows [11:59]
mircea_popescu idiots are not. [11:59]
phf right right [11:59]
mircea_popescu and i'm not for a second proposing i'm better or anything. i have the purely accidental benefit of having spent a lot of my youthful years in this position where people did not fucking dare even open the trap. whereas most smart kids of the sort society tends to castrate for fattening live quite otherwise. [12:00]
mircea_popescu but all this is besides the point : there's a right way and wrong ways and there's all there is to it. [12:01]
mircea_popescu (but yes, capon is the word. the moment you see a kid with a "college education" "despising" violence, you know precisely the fuck's going on. as per alf's discussion of those exploited monkeys, exactly. oxen gathering together to talk out of line about the bull's specific smell.) [12:08]
asciilifeform if the only kind of violence you can picture is of the farmer, against your own neck - then yes, pig despises. [12:09]
asciilifeform why shouldn't he. [12:09]
mircea_popescu this... separation, shall we call it, between intelligent man (ie, he who could put the balls to use) and "orc", ie, man with all the parts still attached is INTEGRAL for ... [12:09]
mircea_popescu not for civilisation, mind. for this ugly rat of a creature that is really copyrasty and pretense, part of which pretense is to call self civilisation [12:10]
mircea_popescu meanwhile, one of the least civilised things ever contemplated. [12:10]
asciilifeform quite arguably rome had it. [12:10]
mircea_popescu an empire must have it. [12:10]
asciilifeform aha. [12:10]
mircea_popescu rome the worth the mention rome, did not. [12:10]
mircea_popescu it instead had the quite plain understanding that civilisation is what happens at the other end of the mentula. [12:11]
mircea_popescu or to quote, "mentula cum doleat imperio, tibi, lector, culus. non sum divinus..." [12:11]
asciilifeform l0l! [12:12]
mircea_popescu aha. [12:12]
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phf asciilifeform: see, e.g., harlan ellison << one good thing came out of this guy, http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ihavenomouth/imustscream.htm [12:30]
assbot Hardcore Gaming 101: I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream ... ( http://bit.ly/1XPKLGs ) [12:30]
asciilifeform phf: i played ! [12:30]
asciilifeform quite arguably the game owes precious-little to the short story (which i read) [12:30]
asciilifeform famously, ellison demanded that there be no way to win. [12:31]
asciilifeform publisher overruled. [12:31]
mircea_popescu lol [12:32]
mircea_popescu why ?! [12:32]
asciilifeform ask him, not me [12:32]
asciilifeform or read the (pretty cruddy) tale [12:32]
mircea_popescu seems like a great idea for a game. [12:32]
asciilifeform it is about depression, desperation, and eternal torment. [12:32]
mircea_popescu i thought nintendo was predicatedc on this [12:32]
asciilifeform mno not in the nintendo sense [12:32]
asciilifeform he wanted all paths to lead to square 1 [12:33]
mircea_popescu better than yet another "Congratulations!" thing [12:33]
asciilifeform regardless, it was a very memorable game. [12:34]
asciilifeform i still recall the dirigible powered by pain. [12:34]
mircea_popescu lol [12:34]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr50rXDBsyk [12:35]
assbot Let's Stream I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream 01 - Gorrister - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0y7Fi ) [12:35]
phf definitely very memorable game [12:35]
asciilifeform 'this lever is labeled MOTIVATOR.' [12:43]
asciilifeform https://youtu.be/Hr50rXDBsyk?t=23m44s [12:45]
assbot Let's Stream I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream 01 - Gorrister - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0zMe6 ) [12:45]
trinque one of my favorite books. [12:46]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416099 << that'd be "civilised men everywhere" or some such. [17:24]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416099 << that'd be "civilised men everywhere" or some such. [17:25]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 17:05:40; PeterL: so if people in the Assbot L1 are the peers, what do we call those of us in the Assbot L2? [17:25]
mircea_popescu humanity. whatever you call it. [17:25]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416114 << who is this guy again ? [17:26]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 18:41:28; punkman: lol "@petertodd: Whomever is DoS attacking f2pool please stop. You're only making it harder to come to consensus." [17:26]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416129 << it is pretty lulzy. apparently when you decapitate worms, indistinct spew comes out. who knew. [17:27]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 18:57:56; *: asciilifeform just learned about gavin's 'weak blocks,' 'partial blocks', and related recent idiocies, mind blown [17:27]
asciilifeform i thought you get 2 worms per. [17:28]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416145 << usgware is weaker than pressed shitboard. [17:28]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 19:10:20; asciilifeform: why would a pool even be ddosable. i thought they all used usgflare or whatnot. [17:28]
mircea_popescu anyway, lulzy at the too-smart-by-half usg. OH WE CAPTURED GOBAG!!!11 [17:29]
mircea_popescu go you. [17:29]
asciilifeform wtf is gobag [17:30]
mircea_popescu you know, like hobag with an accent ? [17:31]
asciilifeform ferfuxxsake wtf is hobag [17:32]
asciilifeform a hobo's bag ? [17:32]
mircea_popescu lol. [17:32]
mircea_popescu ok ok. a hobag is just a superlative of ho, which is a ghetto contraction of whore. [17:32]
asciilifeform but not a bag thereof ? hm. [17:33]
mircea_popescu meanwhile a gobag would be, i presume, on the basis of coverage of this shaun bridges proud representative of the usg in all its glory, the thing he was going to run off with [17:33]
mircea_popescu ie, the bag of valuable traveling merchants carry on their person, of peculiar interest to rogues [17:33]
mircea_popescu be they rogue persons or rogue states. [17:33]
BingoBoingo that is what it is [17:34]
asciilifeform ah ~that~ bag. [17:34]
trinque aka bug-out bag [17:35]
mircea_popescu entirely and utterly different from hodrum, which is this : http://41.media.tumblr.com/a742c8f313adb16ea1b44a2fffbc2c76/tumblr_nk31qjugOb1t0quw8o1_1280.jpg [17:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtK0Ak ) [17:35]
BingoBoingo trinque: No, different thing. Bug-out bag is what future refugees pack for when Syria moves to them. [17:35]
punkman bug-out bag makes me think of preppers, so useless things inside [17:41]
BingoBoingo punkman: Not useless things, refugee things [17:43]
punkman they aren't refugess so what do they know [17:44]
BingoBoingo No, but that's what they prep for, to be the best refugees they can be [17:44]
punkman right, sure [17:44]
BingoBoingo I mean what the fuck else do you call someone who "bugs out" with a bag full of stuff as their primary preparation. [17:45]
punkman go bag on the other hand, I imagine mostly filled with paper [17:46]
BingoBoingo go bag generally is paired with potential destinations [17:47]
BingoBoingo packed for a journey to X, Y, or Z [17:48]
BingoBoingo bug out bag though is an exercise in playing refugee [17:48]
punkman http://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/Porn-Industry-Uses-Airbnb-Rental-Houses-for-Filming-370228041.html [17:52]
assbot Porn Industry Uses Airbnb, Rental Houses for Filming | NBC Southern California ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtMj6C ) [17:52]
trinque I bet they don't even Lysol the place after. [17:57]
trinque lol [17:57]
ben_vulpes lewd [18:00]
BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3889 [18:09]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416208 << i have no idea whether lafond intentionally plays propagandist for the new gendarmerie. but there it is. [18:14]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 21:07:40; BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3889 [18:14]
asciilifeform somehow i can't picture him enjoying the new federalized police any more than the old local. [18:15]
asciilifeform http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3842 << this one answers an old puzzle in my head... [18:18]
assbot JL: Walking in the Street ... ( http://bit.ly/1TcqQmr ) [18:18]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: His problem is he publishes too much http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3901 [18:19]
assbot JL: Maneuvering against the All-Weather Hoodrat? ... ( http://bit.ly/1TcqY5e ) [18:20]
BingoBoingo Inventor versus crackpot is all about what percent of scribblings find the public [18:20]
asciilifeform http://www.amren.com/news/2015/12/housing-policies-still-pin-poor-in-baltimore-but-some-escape-to-suburbs << lulzy, linked from somewhere in there [18:27]
assbot Housing Policies Still Pin Poor in Baltimore, but Some Escape to Suburbs | American Renaissance ... ( http://bit.ly/1R8g76b ) [18:27]
asciilifeform 'There are two main components to Baltimore’s “mobility” campaign, which aims to relocate public housing residents to better neighborhoods. Nearly 3,100 participating families, headed almost entirely by single black mothers, have relocated with special subsidies that are designed for high suburban rents; about 1,300 other families will join them over the next three years. Nearly 50 families, including Hill’s, have move [18:27]
asciilifeform d into houses owned by the city housing authority in prosperous county communities; 110 more will soon move to houses in strong city neighborhoods.' [18:27]
mircea_popescu da fuck is that insane bs. [18:29]
BingoBoingo Orcification of viable appearing communities [18:32]
BingoBoingo Spread the Poverty!!! [18:32]
mircea_popescu idjits expect to spend tax receipts on giving free money to poor people ~enough so they can rent where rich people live~ ?! [18:32]
mircea_popescu dude just cook and eat the poor already wtf is this. [18:33]
BingoBoingo It's Obama's Amerikka [18:40]
BingoBoingo Not cool enough for third K [18:40]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it is how they double the rents. [18:42]
phf i think it's worthwhile to have an emergency bag. i wouldn't want to dig for my passports or backups or search for atms or whatever in a pinch.. [18:42]
asciilifeform 'mr engineer? we heard that you're not paying your whole salary for rent yet ? here, have some diverse neighbours' [18:42]
asciilifeform and doubtless mircea_popescu knows that they aren't spending tax receipts, but printolade. [18:43]
mircea_popescu at which point mr engineer beats the shit out of the various derps thinking they're cool and rappers and whatnot, repossesses the black woman and reconstructs his grandfather's mansion [18:44]
mircea_popescu in the happy song of yes massah all day long. [18:44]
phf what is this, b-a take on tarantino plots [18:44]
asciilifeform the 2nd half is perhaps take on 'rambo' [18:44]
* asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu posting from inside the ring of world championship chessbox match [18:45]
mircea_popescu but you're right, they won't. and you're right, ofcourse - printolade. which also happens to be EXACTLY what mr engineer is paind in, anyway. which is EXACTLY why he won't. [18:46]
mircea_popescu same government FOR THE SAME REASONS and in the same ways gives all these niggers the house. [18:46]
mircea_popescu whether it's through path a or path b, purely decorative difference. [18:46]
mircea_popescu nobody belongs there anyway. [18:46]
asciilifeform much plantation, but conspicuously absent is the massa's house. [18:46]
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mircea_popescu somehow "engineer" coexists with [18:47]
mircea_popescu !s "signs of life" [18:47]
assbot 5 results for '"signs of life"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22signs+of+life%22 [18:47]
mircea_popescu in otherwords, how did you say "ei se fac ca ne platesc, noi ne facem ca muncim" in russian ? [18:47]
deedbot- [Qntra] Bankruptcy Artist Promotes Easier Libel Suits - http://qntra.net/2016/02/bankruptcy-artist-promotes-easier-libel-suits/ [18:48]
BingoBoingo ^ Lulz [18:48]
asciilifeform afaik it was originally a ru thing [18:48]
mircea_popescu heh. [18:49]
mircea_popescu even lisp got bignum these days! [18:49]
asciilifeform aha! [18:49]
asciilifeform much. [18:49]
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danielpbarron >> This comes Trump's << comes as* ? [18:57]
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danielpbarron http://qntra.net/2016/02/growing-bitcoin-game-hits-high-for-single-day-play-seconds/#comment-46819 << hey I got a fan! [19:00]
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mircea_popescu he might be ironian. [19:18]
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asciilifeform lulzily, i recently tried 'trisquel linux' distro on a thinkpad x60, as mentioned, e.g., here, https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/grub_boot_installer.html - it croaks on boot during acpi init. [19:22]
assbot How to install GNU/Linux on a libreboot system ... ( http://bit.ly/1n2nDaj ) [19:22]
asciilifeform 'but hey it worked for rms' [19:22]
asciilifeform somehow. [19:22]
phf "Trisquel [...] derived from another distribution, Ubuntu." ? [19:24]
asciilifeform phf: it was pitched as somehow decrufted [19:24]
asciilifeform (by the 'libreboot' folks) [19:24]
phf ah [19:24]
phf did we do the whole debian as gentoo thing conversation? [19:25]
asciilifeform not iirc ? [19:25]
* danielpbarron is currently dealing with a debian problem: stuck on "Reading package lists... 0%" and don't want to reboot as per top search result for this string of text [19:26]
trinque I've seen all manner of apt-fucked [19:27]
ben_vulpes apt-get-fucked [19:28]
asciilifeform every time i come near the temptation to try to produce a 'tmsr linux' affair, i get my face rubbed into the fact that there is no hardware. [19:28]
phf i'll have to lookup relevant materials, since it's not in logs, but there are some threads on debian (or maybe duvian or whatever it's called) mail, that explain how to setup a semi automated build of deb packages, and there's some equivalent of useflags that let you control the deb build. so can rebuild entire stack into own package repository, have a decrufted b-a apt source, that's not necessarily audited, but at the very least [19:28]
phf doesn't have freedesktop/systemd/... [19:28]
asciilifeform that is, there is nothing whatsoever that i can rely on other people having, hardware-wise, that can be guaranteed to work [19:28]
trinque phf: deedbot sits atop devuan, hasn't offended me just yet [19:28]
asciilifeform even supposedly well-documented and 'linuxbiosable' items like the x60 apparently come in undocumented variations that barf [19:29]
asciilifeform and i had to hunt for ~3 months to get a working example of the x60, also [19:29]
trinque yeap, my attempt at providing a gentoo recipe was instructive. [19:30]
asciilifeform (they are few, and getting fewer, unsurprisingly) [19:30]
trinque "But this works for me every single time!!" [19:30]
asciilifeform trinque: we still have nfi what happened to the gentoo mircea_popescu tried [19:30]
asciilifeform trinque: the conversation here is not about headless servers [19:31]
BingoBoingo >> This comes Trump's << comes as* ? << ty fxd [19:31]
phf i think there are basically 3 parts to custom stack: sane linux, stock tree, pkg system [19:31]
asciilifeform but general-purpose dev machine [19:31]
asciilifeform phf: the kernel as we all presently have it is the very opposite of sane. [19:31]
asciilifeform I DON'T WANT 10,000,001 DEVICE DRIVERS. [19:32]
asciilifeform i want ONE PER DEVICE [19:32]
phf yeah.. [19:32]
asciilifeform and a standard, immutable, guaranteed set of devices, which do not try anything 'clever' and cannot communicate with one another except in ways defined by os. [19:33]
phf terry davis dat shit. "no framebuffer, no vesa, VGA!" [19:33]
phf :> [19:33]
asciilifeform i don't even go in for hair shirts [19:34]
asciilifeform and there is really nothing complicated about the idea of a framebuffer. [19:35]
phf a useful framebuffer is backed by the card specific driver [19:35]
asciilifeform no shit [19:35]
trinque asciilifeform: yep that recipe I have is just fine for a dev box [19:37]
asciilifeform trinque: and when mircea_popescu tells you that it won't see his cdrom drive ? [19:37]
trinque it's what I used for my own dev environment, still have that partition around [19:38]
trinque asciilifeform: baffled, as it used a genkernel with all modules by default [19:38]
trinque I tend to boot with that, then produce a custom kernel config with localyesconfig once booted [19:38]
trinque and strip out module loading [19:38]
asciilifeform trinque: ever find it interesting that the kernel has no mechanism for telling you what code ~is actually used~ ? [19:39]
asciilifeform even though it would be absolutely trivial. [19:39]
mircea_popescu yeah. [19:39]
mircea_popescu compiulere does as much ffs [19:39]
asciilifeform actually gcc is pretty terrible at deadcode snip [19:40]
phf beos had that systematized, was really handy [19:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ftr, about 1/2 of a stripped trb binary is openssl crud that is never called. [19:40]
asciilifeform (by weight) [19:40]
mircea_popescu yup [19:40]
phf or i guess a microkernel by design, rather then "we don't do microkernels, except now we basicall do" [19:40]
mircea_popescu i read systemdized and was wtf [19:41]
asciilifeform l0l! [19:41]
phf usg claims word ownership [19:42]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-04-2015#1086937 << mega-thread [19:42]
assbot Logged on 03-04-2015 19:02:32; mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/gentoo-derpage.jpg < [19:42]
trinque http://www.androidcentral.com/kernel-vulnerability-exposed-researchers << absolutely nothing surprises me about the smell of evil in the linux kernel [19:42]
assbot What you need to know about the CONFIG_KEYS Linux kernel vulnerability | Android Central ... ( http://bit.ly/1n2q1xX ) [19:42]
asciilifeform stopped reading at 'The kernel needs to have been built with the Keyring service enabled' [19:43]
trinque looks to be a deliberate backdoor [19:44]
trinque and is perhaps (heh!?!!) not the only one [19:44]
asciilifeform nah somebody accidentally tripped over a cosmic ray in the bath [19:44]
trinque to your point about "why is there no pruning tool for this thing" [19:44]
asciilifeform my point was that there is no actual practical reason why a kernel ought to contain so much as one instruction pertaining to devices that i don't have and will never have on my box. [19:45]
trinque indeed. [19:45]
asciilifeform it is not difficult to do runtime coverage. every routine starts by setting a flag. ones who never set their flag, get listed as dead code. [19:45]
asciilifeform !s facedancer [19:47]
assbot 3 results for 'facedancer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=facedancer [19:47]
asciilifeform ^ commercial tool for exploiting the 'billion buggy device drivers' idiocy [19:47]
phf https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gcov.txt [19:48]
asciilifeform it's just a box with microcontroller and two usb ends, one for victim, one for operator [19:48]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TJ5VGY ) [19:48]
asciilifeform you program it to emulate a usb widget that has exploitable driver in the victim's os. [19:48]
asciilifeform the idea is, of course, ancient. [19:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00056538 = 7.4065 BTC [+] {2} [19:49]
asciilifeform i have a similar, handmade instrument here, for years, and know other folks who also. [19:49]
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asciilifeform phf: gcov is pointedly ~not~ what i want [19:50]
phf how come? [19:50]
asciilifeform i don't need the granularity [19:50]
asciilifeform nor the slowdown [19:50]
asciilifeform nor the magic development mode flags. [19:50]
asciilifeform it needs to be sop per-install and automatic. [19:51]
asciilifeform because there is no fucking reason for it not to be sop. [19:51]
deedbot- [Trilema] So you're a rational fellow, right ? - http://trilema.com/2016/so-youre-a-rational-fellow-right/ [19:51]
asciilifeform phf: let's lay it out, for the n00bz and the not-so-alert-readerz [19:52]
asciilifeform EVERY device driver routine, without exception, has some means for determining whether said device is physically present. [19:53]
asciilifeform whether by scanning for a particular bus id and then querying, or whatever [19:53]
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asciilifeform MANDATE CANONICAL LIST of these. [19:54]
asciilifeform !up minzieee [19:54]
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minzieee Hi [19:54]
asciilifeform this is elementarily obvious. [19:54]
asciilifeform minzieee: and who might you be ? [19:54]
mircea_popescu !up minzieee [19:54]
-assbot- You voiced minzieee for another 30 minutes. [19:54]
* assbot gives voice to minzieee [19:54]
minzieee Hi [19:55]
minzieee Anyone can help me setting up qt trader? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201062.0 [19:55]
assbot Qt Bitcoin Trader [Open Source secure trading client for Mac/Windows/Linux] ... ( http://bit.ly/1TJ6uRc ) [19:55]
mircea_popescu lol [19:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform admire the craftiness of imbecility. derp was here asking about wanting to DO it a week or so ago, etc. [19:58]
asciilifeform wai wut?! [19:58]
asciilifeform which it [19:58]
mircea_popescu "oh how do i trade from qt" bla bla [19:58]
asciilifeform ah [19:58]
asciilifeform astonishing [19:58]
phf ^- http://buttersafe.com/comics/2008-10-23-Detour.jpg [19:59]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/663d73bfaf012e37a252ea40446c14ff/tumblr_nml4meFcOD1r6rmfno1_500.gif [20:00]
asciilifeform in other oldz, https://web.archive.org/web/20000815085622/http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,14590,00.html [20:01]
asciilifeform ^ vintage hype press release for... cramer-shoup. [20:01]
mircea_popescu awww! [20:01]
mircea_popescu what happened to it [20:01]
asciilifeform apparently nobody implemented. [20:02]
asciilifeform except for that horror in elisp [20:02]
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asciilifeform (which also used something like church numerals, because elisp lacks bignum) [20:02]
mircea_popescu o i thought lisp finally had bignum too ? [20:03]
BingoBoingo lol http://qntra.net/2016/02/bankruptcy-artist-promotes-easier-libel-suits/#comment-47266 [20:03]
asciilifeform lolsp [20:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: elisp doesn't have, e.g., lexical scope, either [20:03]
asciilifeform or pretty much anything. [20:04]
asciilifeform it is always 1972 in elisp. [20:04]
asciilifeform (and not in the good sense) [20:04]
asciilifeform the only other implementation i found, not counting the imbecile java demo thing, was some rubbish demoing a number-theory lib [20:05]
asciilifeform but could not get it to run. [20:05]
phf elisp has runtime bignums implementation by way of calc-*, but performance is obviously not [20:05]
asciilifeform (not to mention that it was quite anti-fitsinhead, having items such as 'group' as primitive operators) [20:05]
asciilifeform phf: ugh [20:06]
phf :) [20:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform afaik ibm had one, in "ace" [20:06]
asciilifeform published ? [20:07]
mircea_popescu seen http://www.zurich.ibm.com/security/ace/ace_spec.pdf ? [20:07]
asciilifeform yes. [20:07]
phf asciilifeform: speaking of, if one were to add bignums to shiva, should that go by way of openssl or your mp cleanup? [20:07]
mircea_popescu ibm-"published" [20:07]
asciilifeform i am only listing published code. [20:07]
asciilifeform phf: neither, they are loathesome [20:07]
asciilifeform phf: implement natively. [20:07]
phf natively, you mean ~in~ scheme? [20:07]
asciilifeform aha. [20:07]
asciilifeform you might have to add a type flag bit to make this work [20:08]
phf that will be ~very~ slow [20:08]
asciilifeform i'm not certain that this is so. [20:08]
asciilifeform (if you have aref that works on machine word, you have pretty much what you need) [20:09]
mircea_popescu make it work first. [20:09]
mircea_popescu make it fast AFTER, and ONLY if anyone asks. [20:09]
phf well, i wrote apropos that walks oblist with two nested for-each and shortest-common-prefix, and it has perceivable weight to it [20:10]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, am i living in a state of confusion as to which weekend is which asciilifeform ? [20:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ? [20:11]
mircea_popescu phuctor! [20:11]
asciilifeform aha my weekend started an hour ago [20:11]
asciilifeform converting the old db to new. [20:12]
asciilifeform (no more sqlite!) [20:12]
mircea_popescu eager minds eagerly await! [20:12]
asciilifeform aha! [20:12]
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ben_vulpes > it is always 1972 in elisp << i fucking rofld [21:12]
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deedbot- [Qntra] New York City Nuclear Power Problem - http://qntra.net/2016/02/new-york-city-nuclear-power-problem/ [21:34]
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ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: "benefits of a well-run power plant" [21:46]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: ty, fixed but the word nuclear stays. Nuclear Power has extraordinary benefits above other sources for electric generation. [21:48]
ben_vulpes ah, that was a mistake on my part [21:50]
ben_vulpes but 'a' and 'well-run' [21:50]
ben_vulpes also agonal, great word [21:50]
deedbot- [Qntra] Twitter Materially Supporting Clinton Campaign With Censorship - http://qntra.net/2016/02/twitter-materially-supporting-clinton-campaign-with-censorship/ [21:53]
BingoBoingo ty [21:53]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: fxd 4real, missed that part [21:54]
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BingoBoingo !up bla_ [21:55]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [22:02]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 432.65, vol: 5021.91721964 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 432.14, vol: 5755.00956 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 434.98, vol: 20821.05147201 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 405.9, vol: 0.34938249 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 438.017217, vol: 46811.58420000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 435.0, vol: 511.53768237 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 426.282408, vol: 38.31383186 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [22:03]
BingoBoingo ;;more [22:03]
gribble 436.421221109 [22:03]
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BingoBoingo !up mod6 [22:11]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency eur [22:12]
gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 395.680926, vol: 5045.37438711 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 391.39, vol: 130.60702 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 371.27673, vol: 0.34938249 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 401.098896, vol: 46946.29930000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 394.8307, vol: 6408.99843422 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 389.94, vol: 38.31383186 | Volume-weighted last average: 399.917154103 [22:12]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp [22:13]
gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 312.22179, vol: 5052.26566260 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 311.5189125, vol: 5759.86956 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 292.61331, vol: 0.34938249 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 315.91034, vol: 46940.68260000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 316.98798, vol: 32.43517188 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 307.27272, vol: 38.31383186 | Volume-weighted last average: 315.145367417 [22:13]
ben_vulpes !up mod6 [22:16]
ben_vulpes ;;ticket [22:16]
gribble Error: "ticket" is not a valid command. [22:17]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [22:17]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.16, Best ask: 435.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.32000, Last trade: 435.48, 24 hour volume: 20857.33876498, 24 hour low: 419.83, 24 hour high: 437.85, 24 hour vwap: None [22:17]
ben_vulpes attn kakobrekla assbot is awol [22:17]
ben_vulpes hi mod6 [22:17]
ben_vulpes anything to share with the chan? [22:17]
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kakobrekla assbot is trying to reconnect [22:27]
ben_vulpes mod6 sez: <+trinque> mod6_: V99995 built on deedbox, is now happily munching blocks. << great to hear! thanks for reporting. [22:27]
ben_vulpes well [22:28]
ben_vulpes someone claiming to be mod6 lol [22:28]
kakobrekla reading assbot logs is fun. [22:29]
ben_vulpes share a gem? [22:29]
mircea_popescu and in other lewds, http://41.media.tumblr.com/59e6ed6e53f38117ff7ee7d7433c27bc/tumblr_nmblxmwjFO1r8sf33o1_1280.jpg [22:32]
kakobrekla its mostly key imports and disconnects but i see some potentially interesting key imports that afaik never got to speak [22:33]
asciilifeform l0l is that a tanning bed built to 'feel like oven' ?? [22:33]
mircea_popescu aha. [22:33]
asciilifeform prolly not sold at your local 'buttman'. [22:34]
mircea_popescu course not. the girl has a nice butt. [22:34]
asciilifeform the oven, i mean. [22:34]
mircea_popescu ah. well... it does not fit in butt! [22:35]
mircea_popescu ok, this is adorabru. http://49.media.tumblr.com/c38a15baa755d388d25d0ffa1f6bc113/tumblr_nlods0wI5m1rnma1do1_400.gif [22:41]
ben_vulpes i just see my death at the beaks of some uncaring mob [22:43]
mircea_popescu lol [22:44]
shinohai What a glorious death it shall be though ben_vulpes, to die for one's beliefs! [22:44]
ben_vulpes more likely to be a joke of statistics [23:02]
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kakobrekla there we go [23:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.14788127 = 2.3661 BTC [-] {3} [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 473250 @ 0.00056663 = 268.1576 BTC [+] {28} [23:06]
shinohai https://bitbet.us/bet/1229/?ref=1E5BED1T28wu3ugvy5ukdYRtZcRgWMQPAB <<< completely even [23:06]
assbot BitBet - The next US President will be female :: 0.21 B (50%) on Yes, 0.21 B (50%) on No | closing in 8 months 5 days | weight: 73`472 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1T2bIrb ) [23:06]
kakobrekla odd time of even bets, see also trump and alphago. [23:07]
shinohai trifecta [23:07]
danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.up:1d50e6329b5b6cd32d2daf9aa32379ff168977970316ffe31bf814575d18afb5 [23:18]
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danielpbarron heh [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77800 @ 0.00057669 = 44.8665 BTC [+] {4} [23:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.14788127 = 1.4788 BTC [-] [23:25]
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