Forum logs for 26 Dec 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+] | [00:00] |
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thestringpuller | EskimoBob: is a shit slinger | [00:03] |
thestringpuller | who slings poopoo like a chimpanzee | [00:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00064 = 5.152 BTC [+] | [00:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00064 = 8.064 BTC [+] | [00:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+] | [00:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00064 = 1.7325 BTC [+] | [00:14] |
PsychoticBoy | mpfk-pr << a word that you do not often hear | [00:21] |
PsychoticBoy | ;) | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064 = 1.824 BTC [+] | [00:21] |
PsychoticBoy | [00:22] | |
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JWU42 | PsychoticBoy: thought you couldn't sell them | [00:26] |
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gigavps | good evening | [00:28] |
JWU42 | wow - good timing giga | [00:28] |
gigavps | stuffed from Christmas dinner | [00:28] |
gigavps | can barely move | [00:28] |
JWU42 | nice | [00:28] |
JWU42 | laying on couch with laptop propped on distended belly ;) | [00:29] |
gigavps | too many cookies, my mother makes some pretty awesome cookies | [00:29] |
JWU42 | yumm | [00:31] |
JWU42 | hmm PsychoticBoy was around a bit ago talking about GIGAMINING | [00:31] |
JWU42 | not sure where he went | [00:31] |
gigavps | well, selling gigamining since the close of glbse will most likely void any claim | [00:32] |
gigavps | so buyer beware | [00:32] |
JWU42 | OK - that clarifies | [00:32] |
JWU42 | thks for that | [00:32] |
gigavps | one of the huge reasons GLBSE closed was because they had no idea who their customers were | [00:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064 = 6.72 BTC [+] | [00:33] |
gigavps | and they were supposed to be reporting gains/loses | [00:33] |
gigavps | simple kyc stuff | [00:33] |
gigavps | all of the new exchange will have the same problems | [00:33] |
gigavps | i've read the TOS for some of the sites, and treating the exchange as a "experiment/learning" will not keep them out of court when the government comes calling | [00:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00064 = 1.2864 BTC [+] | [00:49] |
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PsychoticBoy | hmmn he left | [01:02] |
PsychoticBoy | I think I will get giga into court, I contacted O Hammerstein, my lawyer, and he wants action | [01:03] |
PsychoticBoy | yes it is one of the best lawyers in The Netherlands (and expensive) but he is like a pitbull | [01:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 774 @ 0.00354059 = 2.7404 BTC [-] | [01:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8728 @ 0.00064 = 5.5859 BTC [+] | [01:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00345868 = 1.7293 BTC [-] | [01:16] |
thestringpuller | PsychoticBoy: why are you going to get giga into court | [01:19] |
thestringpuller | * | [01:19] |
PsychoticBoy | I am sick of people who make their own rules, Bitcoin is a semi annonymous coin traded in a free market | [01:20] |
PsychoticBoy | He did not need my ID or such when I took my coins | [01:21] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: man I wish dmc could afford a lawyer | [01:21] |
PsychoticBoy | Now when things are getting ugly, he goes by the law etc F | [01:21] |
PsychoticBoy | I will outsource all I got If I have to | [01:22] |
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thestringpuller | PsychoticBoy: I think I missed something. What did gigia exactly do? | [01:22] |
PsychoticBoy | allthough I only own 117 Giga shares, does not mean I have to let ppl walk over me | [01:22] |
PsychoticBoy | For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations the document number and issuing jurisdiction of the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing. | [01:23] |
PsychoticBoy | An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction. Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices. | [01:23] |
PsychoticBoy | ^^^^ this is the problem | [01:23] |
thestringpuller | Wait what | [01:23] |
thestringpuller | I'm so confused | [01:23] |
PsychoticBoy | My ID etc | [01:23] |
PsychoticBoy | F him he wont get it and its against EU Law | [01:24] |
PsychoticBoy | he is no EU company If he does own a company that is registred | [01:24] |
PsychoticBoy | If he even has one | [01:25] |
PsychoticBoy | I dont mind payoing 1000euro for a lawyer to get him hanged | [01:25] |
thestringpuller | so he wants | [01:26] |
PsychoticBoy | even if the 117 sahres arent worth shit | [01:26] |
thestringpuller | "papers" | [01:26] |
thestringpuller | in order to claim the shares | [01:26] |
PsychoticBoy | yep | [01:26] |
PsychoticBoy | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127488.0 | [01:27] |
Diablo-D3 | wait | [01:27] |
Diablo-D3 | why are we tagging giga as a scammer? | [01:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15157 @ 0.00064 = 9.7005 BTC [+] | [01:27] |
PsychoticBoy | he is not getting taged | [01:27] |
PsychoticBoy | he will not get one | [01:27] |
Diablo-D3 | good | [01:28] |
Diablo-D3 | has giga even done anything wrong yet? | [01:28] |
PsychoticBoy | its only not a reasonable thing to do, ask for ppl personal data | [01:28] |
thestringpuller | well people will stop giving him money? | [01:28] |
PsychoticBoy | sure | [01:28] |
Diablo-D3 | thestringpuller: erm, they cant | [01:28] |
Diablo-D3 | he hasnt relisted anywhere | [01:28] |
thestringpuller | people have the right to liquidate no? | [01:29] |
PsychoticBoy | He wont get another btc from me as he already took more than 70 BTC (117 shares) | [01:29] |
Diablo-D3 | what, hes not buying the shares back? | [01:29] |
PsychoticBoy | no You can claim be sending your ID, address etc and an affidavit | [01:29] |
PsychoticBoy | by* | [01:30] |
PsychoticBoy | so this is fucking bullshit | [01:30] |
PsychoticBoy | sorry for my language on christmas | [01:30] |
Diablo-D3 | hrm | [01:30] |
Diablo-D3 | I wonder if his lawyer told him to do that | [01:31] |
PsychoticBoy | yep | [01:31] |
Diablo-D3 | then I wouldnt scammer tag him | [01:31] |
Diablo-D3 | his lawyer knows more about this shit than any of us do | [01:31] |
Diablo-D3 | just another reason to excommunicate nefario, imo | [01:31] |
PsychoticBoy | I have the feeling he just want his ass covered by a lawyer and not pay out shareholders | [01:31] |
Diablo-D3 | I dont | [01:31] |
Diablo-D3 | he may have actually violated the law somewhere | [01:32] |
markedathome | thestringpuller: they have the right to request liquidation through a motion if that is allowed in the contract | [01:32] |
PsychoticBoy | I talked with an lawyer here in Holland and he told me what gigavps or his lawyer is doing is in opposition to | [01:33] |
PsychoticBoy | the Dutch and EU Law | [01:33] |
Diablo-D3 | yes, but giga is american | [01:33] |
PsychoticBoy | but as EU citizen I am not allowed to send him my details if I wanted that | [01:33] |
Diablo-D3 | if he is incorporated in a state that requires a list of all shareholders to be published | [01:33] |
Diablo-D3 | then thats the way it is | [01:33] |
Diablo-D3 | and yes, that actually IS such a thing | [01:33] |
PsychoticBoy | He is playing by the rules (like he said) But if I am playing by the rules (Dutch/EU law) I get fucked hmmmn that can not be possible | [01:34] |
Diablo-D3 | yes it can | [01:34] |
Diablo-D3 | eu and us law do not always jive | [01:35] |
pigeons | haha of course its possible | [01:35] |
pigeons | us law and us law do not always ive | [01:35] |
PsychoticBoy | I noticed that by now | [01:35] |
Diablo-D3 | pigeons: that too | [01:35] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: problem is, you fucked yourself when you invested in an american company | [01:35] |
Diablo-D3 | thats neither a good or a bad thing. its a statement of fact. | [01:35] |
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PsychoticBoy | so in otherwords this is a shitty situation for me, I am pushed into a cornerr | [01:36] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: why not just comply with his request? | [01:36] |
PsychoticBoy | NO | [01:36] |
PsychoticBoy | NEVER | [01:36] |
PsychoticBoy | He makes NEW rules | [01:36] |
Diablo-D3 | he didnt make new rules | [01:36] |
PsychoticBoy | He could just payout | [01:36] |
Diablo-D3 | if his lawyer has advised him to comply with US laws, then the government is the one that made the rules, not him | [01:36] |
pigeons | more fun to throw a fit | [01:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064 = 8.48 BTC [+] | [01:37] |
Diablo-D3 | he cant payout to shareholders | [01:37] |
Diablo-D3 | that would be illegal | [01:37] |
PsychoticBoy | I own 2 shares of gigamining the other 115 shares are owned by FDBF so its a loss for investors if I dont do what giga said but its a matter of principle | [01:37] |
pigeons | what's FDBF | [01:38] |
Diablo-D3 | then register fdbf as a company, then claim and pay out to your shareholders and then dissolve the company | [01:38] |
PsychoticBoy | my fund on GLBSE | [01:38] |
PsychoticBoy | registering a company here in The Netherlands will cost me so NO | [01:39] |
Diablo-D3 | then you lose. | [01:39] |
PsychoticBoy | no investors | [01:39] |
PsychoticBoy | klose | [01:39] |
Diablo-D3 | oh no, they'll just go after you. | [01:39] |
Diablo-D3 | so you lose. | [01:39] |
pigeons | investors who trusted you to look after their interests | [01:39] |
PsychoticBoy | I lose 2 shares they will lose 115 | [01:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00064 = 9.44 BTC [+] | [01:39] |
pigeons | so you lose their goodwill | [01:39] |
Diablo-D3 | and you may end up getting scammertagged on the forums as well | [01:40] |
PsychoticBoy | sure, I allready lost ppls good will | [01:40] |
PsychoticBoy | I allready have a thread in Scam accusations | [01:40] |
PsychoticBoy | not that I am proud of | [01:40] |
PsychoticBoy | I will not get tagged for not sending personal details, theymos already told me that | [01:41] |
PsychoticBoy | so if the shares will not be claimed by me by sending personal data then its poof gone | [01:41] |
PsychoticBoy | and thats it | [01:42] |
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Diablo-D3 | find out how much it'll cost to register the company | [01:42] |
Diablo-D3 | if its more than the 117 shares are worth, I wouldnt do it either | [01:43] |
PsychoticBoy | And guess what I will not send that data ever | [01:43] |
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PsychoticBoy | It will cost me 68 euro | [01:43] |
PsychoticBoy | to registrer | [01:43] |
PsychoticBoy | so NO | [01:43] |
PsychoticBoy | he can keep the change the filty animal | [01:43] |
PsychoticBoy | lol | [01:43] |
Diablo-D3 | okay, thats about 7 BTC | [01:43] |
Diablo-D3 | how much are 117 giga worth? | [01:44] |
PsychoticBoy | yep for probably 117 x 0.3? | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | I bet more than 7 BTC | [01:44] |
PsychoticBoy | sure but I will not spend my ID on a company | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | 35 btc. | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: thats why you form the company | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | you send him the corporate details | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | complete with worthless po box | [01:44] |
pigeons | I WANNA LOSE MONEY, ITS THE PRINCIPAL | [01:44] |
PsychoticBoy | yeah in an open free market | [01:44] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: you want to make this as hard as possible for giga | [01:45] |
Diablo-D3 | comply with his requests. | [01:45] |
Diablo-D3 | when he doesnt, sue him | [01:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00064 = 1.1757 BTC [+] | [01:45] |
PsychoticBoy | no not really I offerd him to just pay me 0.1 btc per share and be done with it | [01:45] |
PsychoticBoy | I will not send my personal data to a stranger | [01:46] |
PsychoticBoy | period | [01:46] |
pigeons | but you'll send him money | [01:46] |
PsychoticBoy | I made that mistake once not twice | [01:46] |
Diablo-D3 | its not your personal data | [01:46] |
Diablo-D3 | its your company's | [01:46] |
PsychoticBoy | Oh it is, My name , address, etc is personal | [01:47] |
Diablo-D3 | nope, its the fdbf corporate identity. | [01:47] |
PsychoticBoy | sure, I am not gonna glue my name to FDBF | [01:47] |
Diablo-D3 | you may not have to. | [01:48] |
Diablo-D3 | there are ways under EU law to hide the personal data of corporate officers. | [01:48] |
PsychoticBoy | I have to investigate that first | [01:48] |
PsychoticBoy | But the main thing is, sending personal data to claim, wtf | [01:49] |
Diablo-D3 | I already explained that one to you | [01:50] |
Diablo-D3 | its required by law in some states | [01:50] |
Diablo-D3 | all shareholders must be known to the state | [01:50] |
PsychoticBoy | I know, at some point I can understand it, but but but | [01:50] |
Diablo-D3 | no but but but | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | if hes following the law, then thats it | [01:51] |
PsychoticBoy | Yeah but if I follow the law, then I am not able to send my data if I wish | [01:51] |
Diablo-D3 | I really doubt EU law wont let you claim an investment in a foreign company | [01:52] |
PsychoticBoy | gigavps does not have a registred company that fits EU regulations | [01:53] |
Diablo-D3 | then request to giga that he does. | [01:53] |
PsychoticBoy | So no its not possible | [01:53] |
Diablo-D3 | [06:53:20] |
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PsychoticBoy | It will cost him some time and money and maybe even a company change of activities so I doubt giga will do that | [01:54] |
thestringpuller | don't invest in giga | [01:55] |
thestringpuller | BANK RUN | [01:55] |
thestringpuller | PANIC SELL | [01:55] |
thestringpuller | sell gigabonds | [01:55] |
PsychoticBoy | I wont in the future | [01:55] |
Diablo-D3 | PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place | [01:55] |
Diablo-D3 | so dont think you magically get out of this by not claiming | [01:55] |
PsychoticBoy | You can buy mine, Ill give the email address and btcaddress and even the btc privatekey if you buy my shares | [01:56] |
Diablo-D3 | not interested. | [01:56] |
PsychoticBoy | [01:56] | |
PsychoticBoy | GLBSE was not legal in the first place so | [01:57] |
PsychoticBoy | gigamining is not legal when it was on GLBSE | [01:57] |
thestringpuller | SELL SELL SELL SELL PANIC SELL | [01:58] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [01:58] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35001, Best ask: 13.38415, Bid-ask spread: 0.03414, Last trade: 13.35001, 24 hour volume: 13165.68956219, 24 hour low: 13.14000, 24 hour high: 13.43000, 24 hour vwap: 13.31228 | [01:58] |
PsychoticBoy | Ok I will think things over, but I am most certain that all my gigamining shares must be counted as a loss | [02:01] |
thestringpuller | that's a lot of money | [02:03] |
PsychoticBoy | 30 btc? | [02:03] |
thestringpuller | oh | [02:03] |
thestringpuller | I thought you said 70 | [02:03] |
PsychoticBoy | at highet 1.5 btc x 117 | [02:03] |
thestringpuller | ;;calc 1.5 * 117 | [02:03] |
gribble | 175.5 | [02:03] |
PsychoticBoy | probably worth 0.3 atm | [02:03] |
thestringpuller | ;;calc 0.3 * 117 | [02:04] |
gribble | 35.1 | [02:04] |
PsychoticBoy | investors paid ~0.7 btc a share | [02:04] |
PsychoticBoy | so a total investment of more than 70 btc | [02:05] |
pigeons | ;;getrating Batteryfire | [02:05] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask Batteryfire!~solomonch@c-76-97-22-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net . User batteryfire, rated since Sun Dec 23 14:04:14 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=batteryfire | [02:05] |
PsychoticBoy | It is still not worth any possible identity theft etc | [02:05] |
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PsychoticBoy | good night all I am going to bed, have a very nice Christmas | [02:16] |
thestringpuller | you too dude | [02:29] |
thestringpuller | pigeons: are you a pigeon? | [02:29] |
pigeons | on the internet nobody knows you're a pigeon | [02:29] |
thestringpuller | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72odw0NR01qgnsg4.jpg for you pigeons | [02:31] |
thestringpuller | I'm sure you've seen it | [02:31] |
pigeons | haha no, but i've been there ;) | [02:31] |
thestringpuller | were you here for the giga discussion? | [02:34] |
thestringpuller | sounds like a case for the mpex courts! | [02:34] |
thestringpuller | ;;later tell | [02:34] |
gribble | (later tell |
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thestringpuller | ;;later tell PsychoticBoy perhaps you should file a case with the mpex court | [02:38] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:38] |
pigeons | its a good idea, but i would guess giga wouldn't agree, he would seem to have more to lose | [02:40] |
thestringpuller | wouldn't he have to if enough people filed against him? | [02:43] |
pigeons | i was thinking about only PB filing a complaint, but yes if there were a large number he would be more likely to need to address it | [02:49] |
thestringpuller | cause ultimately if giga doesn't comply and PB has a good case giga will get labeled a scammer via WoT? or what are the other repurcussions of "non-compliance" to the judge's ruling | [02:50] |
thestringpuller | ?* | [02:50] |
pigeons | i'm not sure, i think the defendent has to agree to the proceedings before they are heard | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1327 @ 0.00064 = 0.8493 BTC [+] | [02:53] |
pigeons | also note the claim needs to be for over 100 BTC | [02:53] |
thestringpuller | ah | [02:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+] | [03:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+] | [03:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+] | [03:42] |
thestringpuller | so dead in here | [03:45] |
Graet | yeah. by the time i fuck around and pay for stuff to send and the other fuckery..... i consider my gigamining bonds another rip off. | [03:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00064 = 4.576 BTC [+] | [03:46] |
Graet | for someone that "only deals in bitcoins" it is not an acceptable solution | [03:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+] | [04:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064 = 0.832 BTC [+] | [04:13] |
thestringpuller | Graet: you only deal in bitcoins? | [04:14] |
Graet | i need to convert bitcoin to fiat to pay for servers, but i pay miners on my pool in bitcoin yes | [04:15] |
Graet | thyat was quoting giga | [04:16] |
thestringpuller | hmm | [04:29] |
thestringpuller | we should get people to pull their money out of giga and put them into your pool ;) | [04:29] |
Graet | um, ppl mine with gpus and f[gas atm, not reall an aption to "put money inb" | [04:31] |
Graet | fpgas* | [04:31] |
Graet | ozcoin.net if you arent aware :) | [04:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+] | [04:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00064 = 6.88 BTC [+] | [04:38] |
thestringpuller | i see | [04:44] |
thestringpuller | I'm not a miner | [04:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+] | [05:03] |
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thestringpuller | it's dead in here tonight | [05:05] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [12:04] |
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mircea_popescu | smickles nope i have not. the values themselves aren't strictly fixed. | [12:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00355774 = 5.3366 BTC [+] | [12:07] |
mircea_popescu | sooo what's new ? | [12:08] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [12:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00064 = 4.192 BTC [+] | [12:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9354 @ 0.00064 = 5.9866 BTC [+] | [12:21] |
PsychoticBoy | Good morning Christmas ppl | [13:13] |
jurov | morning | [13:14] |
PsychoticBoy | whats up with the BFL drama | [13:15] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone feels like a heavier piece. | [13:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+] | [13:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+] | [14:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+] | [14:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+] | [14:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00064 = 3.584 BTC [+] | [15:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064 = 3.296 BTC [+] | [15:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+] | [15:58] |
FabianB | mircea_popescu: so you think cities < village coz anonymity is hindrence for information? | [15:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9644 @ 0.00064 = 6.1722 BTC [+] | [16:13] |
jurov | imho he did not meant that villages are better. just that cities are just considered unstable due to that information problem | [16:17] |
jurov | i found it interesting, but rather one-sided consideration | [16:19] |
jurov | it's not just goat stealers who find unbearable these "social mores" and impossibility to choose people you want to interact with | [16:20] |
jurov | these greek cities were such...when you were expunged ("ostracised" word was born there) = social death. not sure if it's so much desirable | [16:23] |
FabianB | yeah, i think of cities more of statistical stability by mass | [16:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9492 @ 0.00064 = 6.0749 BTC [+] | [16:34] |
FabianB | if i need to find that _one_ goat, of course the information in a village to find it is cheaper | [16:34] |
FabianB | but if i want to find _any_ goat cheese, it's more likely i find one in a city (the village has goat farmers or it doesn't) | [16:35] |
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pigeons | he said goat | [16:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00064 = 7.168 BTC [+] | [16:48] |
FabianB | as city person i'm not interested in a goat, only in it's cheese or meat | [16:50] |
pigeons | Diablo-D3: there is another option besides bfl being a long con and bfl shipping, and that's bfl doesn't ship cause they fail and suck and design, production, logistics, management, etc | [16:52] |
PsychoticBoy | duh | [16:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00064 = 2.08 BTC [+] | [17:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00064 = 20.448 BTC [+] | [17:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+] | [17:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064 = 2.752 BTC [+] | [17:21] |
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jcpham | derpity derp | [17:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00064 = 3.1494 BTC [+] | [17:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+] | [18:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00064 = 8.224 BTC [+] | [19:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+] | [19:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45570 @ 0.00064 = 29.1648 BTC [+] | [19:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11054 @ 0.00064 = 7.0746 BTC [+] | [20:08] |
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FabianB | ;;tslb | [20:15] |
gribble | Time since last block: 29 minutes and 13 seconds | [20:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+] | [20:18] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [20:23] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.32904, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02095, Last trade: 13.35000, 24 hour volume: 11550.37949720, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.39890, 24 hour vwap: 13.29651 | [20:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00064 = 5.344 BTC [+] | [20:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+] | [20:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+] | [20:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 697 @ 0.00064 = 0.4461 BTC [+] | [20:49] |
Diablo-D3 | [09:11:46] |
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Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: yes, it would be illegal to have sold them to begin with | [20:52] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: it would have been the intention of not telling the government who his shareholders are that would make it illegal, btw | [20:52] |
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gigavps | Diablo-D3 they don't have to give info, they have ppl's money | [20:53] |
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Diablo-D3 | gigavps: no, in some states you have to tell the state who owns part of the company | [20:57] |
Bugpowder | gigavps Is there any way for me to buy shares of gigamining off of people who don't want to send in their AML stuff to you? | [20:57] |
Diablo-D3 | gigavps: its technically for partners, but unlisted privately held shares are the same for those states | [20:57] |
gigavps | Bugpowder if i do that, i'm out of business | [20:58] |
gigavps | i'd need to register with all the three letter acros | [20:58] |
JWU_42 | :-( | [20:58] |
gigavps | would cost a whole boat load of $$$$ | [20:59] |
Bugpowder | hmm... ok. so I can only claim my own shares then | [21:00] |
Bugpowder | did you see this? | [21:00] |
Bugpowder | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/business/smallbusiness/why-the-sec-is-likely-to-miss-its-deadline-to-write-crowdfunding-rules.html?hpw | [21:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11179 @ 0.00064 = 7.1546 BTC [+] | [21:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00064 = 7.7824 BTC [+] | [21:30] |
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Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [21:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37991, Best ask: 13.38890, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 13.38890, 24 hour volume: 11700.80747747, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.39890, 24 hour vwap: 13.29785 | [21:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8116 @ 0.00064 = 5.1942 BTC [+] | [21:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+] | [21:35] |
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Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [21:49] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35001, Best ask: 13.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 13.35001, 24 hour volume: 11941.19136899, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.40000, 24 hour vwap: 13.30083 | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB i don't particularly think > or < | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | just different things | [21:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1958 @ 0.00349579 = 6.8448 BTC [-] | [21:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00064 = 25.216 BTC [+] | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00064 = 6.304 BTC [+] | [22:32] |
smickles | ;;ident | [22:39] |
gribble | You are not identified. | [22:39] |
smickles | ;;eauth smickles | [22:39] |
gribble | Request successful for user smickles, hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/EA62D7CEB2450C3F | [22:39] |
smickles | ;;ident | [22:40] |
gribble | You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6 | [22:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00064 = 2.976 BTC [+] | [22:47] |
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JWU_42 | sure | [23:08] |
Diablo-D3 | LOL | [23:13] |
Diablo-D3 | theymos removed me as mod | [23:13] |
Diablo-D3 | because I put everyone in timeout | [23:14] |
Diablo-D3 | I guess thats the end of bitcointalk | [23:14] |
Diablo-D3 | the scammers won | [23:14] |
Diablo-D3 | mod, not admin | [23:15] |
Diablo-D3 | so, if someone dox the entire BFL staff and their close family, well, I wont be able to stop that | [23:15] |
Diablo-D3 | so I think theymos is a bfl shill | [23:16] |
Diablo-D3 | why else would he want the hardware forum's front page all bfl threads | [23:16] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, I think that day I threw all the bfl threads in offtopic was the most mod actions ever. | [23:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03968734 BTC [-] | [23:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.02400107 BTC [+] | [23:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.01359389 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+] | [23:20] |
Diablo-D3 | welp, we now know who the enemies of the community are | [23:21] |
Diablo-D3 | and guess what, I outrank theymos in bitcoin deity status | [23:21] |
Diablo-D3 | so lets see how he fixes this one | [23:21] |
JWU_42 | sounds miserable | [23:22] |
JWU_42 | the 9 months of clouds... | [23:24] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: EVERYONE. | [23:29] |
Diablo-D3 | MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA | [23:30] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: seriously though | [23:34] |
Diablo-D3 | I wonder why theymos sided with the scammers | [23:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12672 @ 0.00064 = 8.1101 BTC [+] | [23:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13236 @ 0.00064 = 8.471 BTC [+] | [23:46] |
PsychoticBoy | hmmn | [23:48] |
Diablo-D3 | everyone being the enemy? | [23:49] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: its an evil laugh | [23:51] |
Diablo-D3 | you obviously didnt get it | [23:52] |
Diablo-D3 | and thats older than comics | [23:53] |
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jurov | bitcoin deity status - wtf? | [23:54] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: say moo, then ha ha, ha ha, ha ha | [23:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10464 @ 0.00064 = 6.697 BTC [+] | [23:54] |
Diablo-D3 | jurov: yes, I am a bitgod. | [23:55] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: well, its more of a muah | [23:55] |
jurov | Diablo-D3, how so? | [23:55] |
Diablo-D3 | jurov: one of the first 100 users, wrote diablominer, brought the most people into the community, etc etc | [23:55] |
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jurov | meh. i could have been there too. remember trying some early version of bicoin-qt, it did not work. | [23:57] |
jurov | i gave up and forgot till 2011 | [23:57] |
Diablo-D3 | lol, bitcoin-qt didnt even exist yet | [23:58] |
jurov | it's all mostly chance | [23:58] |
kakobrekla | ;;ub | [23:58] |
gribble | Error: "ub" is not a valid command. | [23:58] |
kakobrekla | ;;google urban muahaha | [23:59] |
gribble | Urban Dictionary: muahaha: |
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kakobrekla | fyi. | [23:59] |
jurov | oh smite me | [23:59] |
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