Forum logs for 26 Apr 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jborkl | people panic so much, so easy to predict | [00:00] |
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jurov | one needs to be constantly vigilant toward self... to not fall into habit of using self's intelligence to make others appear dumb, for example | [00:05] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00199 BTC [+] | [00:10] |
mircea_popescu | what are you like a kantian ? | [00:10] |
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joecool | panic time, fleanode netsplit | [00:15] |
mod6 | ;;ticker --last | [00:16] |
gribble | 130.04000 | [00:16] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;ticker --next | [00:17] |
gribble | (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a (1 more message) | [00:17] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | fleanode lmao | [00:18] |
pizzaman1337 | ;;ticker | [00:18] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.79999, Best ask: 132.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 132.79999, 24 hour volume: 145217.59936021, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 144.61258 | [00:18] |
mircea_popescu | "to feague a horse is to put ginger up a horse’s fundament, and formerly, as it is said, a live eel, to make him lively and carry his tail well. It is said, a forfeit is incurred by any horse-dealer’s servant, who shall show a horse without first feaguing him." | [00:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00069843 = 5.4128 BTC [+] | [00:23] |
ThickAsThieves | newsflash eel meat found in horse sausages! | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | ahaha | [00:25] |
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KRS1 | wow that was fun | [00:31] |
KRS1 | driving down the interstate 5 lanes each direction at 80 mph buying and selling through my android in my diesel 4x4 truck | [00:31] |
ThickAsThieves | ... | [00:32] |
MJR_ | To decorate or improve in appearance through artificial means. | [00:33] |
MJR_ | To increase the liveliness of a horse by inserting an irritant, such as a piece of peeled raw ginger or a live eel, in its fundament. | [00:33] |
MJR_ | wow, talk about a time when context could really matter | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:34] |
MJR_ | that girl was really feaguing | [00:34] |
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MJR_ | and lol...there is actually a 3rd entry | [00:34] |
MJR_ | (obsolete) To beat or whip; to drive. | [00:34] |
MJR_ | either whipping, sticking eels up horses asses, or making yourself pretty with makeup...how could anyone ever miscontrue what i meant? | [00:35] |
asciilifeform | don't look a gift horse... in the arse? | [00:35] |
MJR_ | hahaha | [00:35] |
ThickAsThieves | all forms of primping :) | [00:35] |
asciilifeform | sawdust in the gearbox, apparently timeless. | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | they literally aren't that distinct are they :D | [00:36] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.greaterfool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kid.jpg?161856 | [00:47] |
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KRS1 | HAH | [00:58] |
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pgp3 | just looked at chart... shit... a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land... | [01:01] |
kakobrekla | :) | [01:01] |
mircea_popescu | what now | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [01:02] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.16804, Best ask: 142.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.33186, Last trade: 142.16804, 24 hour volume: 166821.51265896, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.49206 | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [01:02] |
pgp3 | someone dumped A LOT of coin... jeez... | [01:02] |
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gesell | can someone explain what happened that caused the drop to $90? | [01:10] |
KRS1 | lol | [01:10] |
Scrat | pizza was delivered to the gox headquarters | [01:10] |
Scrat | the rest is history | [01:10] |
KRS1 | this shit is nutty | [01:11] |
KRS1 | some corn on the side too | [01:11] |
gesell | no really, i dont see much on reddit and wasnt around at the time | [01:12] |
gesell | so what really happened? | [01:12] |
jurov | should we tell him? | [01:12] |
KRS1 | look, its like this..this shit is nuttier than a port-o-potty at a peanut festival | [01:12] |
Scrat | jurov: ssshhh | [01:12] |
pgp3 | lol | [01:13] |
mod6 | haha | [01:13] |
pgp3 | what do you mean $90... I don't see that anywhere... | [01:13] |
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KRS1 | prolly a different exchange? | [01:14] |
gesell | 25th at 22:25 for 91 | [01:14] |
gesell | mtgoxusd | [01:14] |
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pgp3 | maybe that was the limit price? | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | gesell someone fucked up the wash trading ? | [01:15] |
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pgp3 | low was around 120 | [01:15] |
gesell | hmm... well i had a lot of orders at $88 that got fulfilled | [01:18] |
gesell | guess it was my fault | [01:19] |
gesell | oh blah | [01:20] |
gesell | my bad | [01:20] |
gesell | sorry | [01:20] |
gesell | just reading the gox emails wrong | [01:21] |
gesell | was from a long time ago | [01:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-] | [01:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.705 BTC [-] | [01:26] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00111 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
thestringpuller | ;;tiocker | [01:31] |
gribble | Error: "tiocker" is not a valid command. | [01:31] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [01:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.25001, Best ask: 142.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 142.36000, 24 hour volume: 177752.29026620, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.50780 | [01:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1293 @ 0.00069843 = 0.9031 BTC [+] | [01:32] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu, that's what they call you. bitcoin billi-on-aire, lots of niggas say it ain't fair. | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | oddly, it's the crackers sayin' it ain't fair. | [01:45] |
thestringpuller | LOL | [01:45] |
thestringpuller | haters everywhere, tell em to grow a pair? | [01:45] |
thestringpuller | as you sit in your lair, surrounded by bitches shaved with nair. | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | "The Less That You Wear, the More You Need Nair!" | [01:47] |
mircea_popescu | lmao that's retarded. | [01:47] |
thestringpuller | hahaha | [01:47] |
mircea_popescu | basically sodium hidroxide ?! ouch. | [01:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00069955 = 1.0843 BTC [+] | [01:50] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01629 BTC [+] | [01:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7997 BTC [+] | [01:53] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4485 = 4.485 BTC [+] | [01:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4485 = 4.485 BTC [+] | [01:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00070076 = 4.1695 BTC [+] | [02:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4485 = 1.794 BTC [+] | [02:03] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 11 @ 0.4201 = 4.6211 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.40070003 = 1.6028 BTC [-] | [02:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.40070002 = 10.0175 BTC [-] | [02:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7997 BTC [+] | [02:25] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.198 BTC [+] | [02:27] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1981 = 0.9905 BTC [+] | [02:27] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.1983 = 0.9915 BTC [+] | [02:29] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.009996 = 0.06 BTC [+] | [02:34] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.009997 = 0.05 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00070076 = 6.3419 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11617 @ 0.00070092 = 8.1426 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009999 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [02:35] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000002 = 0.56 BTC [-] | [02:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28000001 = 2.8 BTC [-] | [02:37] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 238 @ 0.00302 = 0.7188 BTC [-] | [02:38] |
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Diablo-D3 | ;;ticker | [02:46] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.10015, Best ask: 140.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.88984, Last trade: 141.22614, 24 hour volume: 187759.77712509, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 143.12243 | [02:46] |
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asciilifeform | epic troll? http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/governments-must-co-opt-bitcoin-to-avert-disaster-1058380-1.html?zkPrintable=1&nopagination=1 | [02:52] |
gribble | There are currently 151705.18 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12737481.7987 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0082 seconds | [02:53] |
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gribble | There are currently 21257.668 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2718075.47269 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds | [03:03] |
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jcpham | http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130425/srep01684/full/srep01684.html | [03:05] |
jcpham | hurt yourself reading what i'm reading | [03:05] |
asciilifeform | jcpham: idea: rape the algo traders who read this by implementing a contrarian algo | [03:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+] | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | A recent investigation has shown that the number of clicks on search results stemming from a given country correlates with the amount of investment in that country | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | totally. this is so useful and everything. | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | buncha onanists, these people. | [03:17] |
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seongyupyoo | hi, i'm back with couple of questions | [03:27] |
seongyupyoo | mircea still here? | [03:27] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [03:27] |
seongyupyoo | cool, so i've been thinking really hard about destorying, and really the only way this system would be viable if the destroy funds are either really destroyed, sent to void, sent back to blockchain somehow | [03:29] |
seongyupyoo | i'm wondering what ways there are to do 1. really destroy bitcoins 2. blackhole it 3. give it back to blockchain | [03:29] |
seongyupyoo | could you help? | [03:29] |
ThickAsThieves | what's the difference between 1 and 2 | [03:30] |
mircea_popescu | well, 1 justg send them to a fixed address like 1blackhole398759347589 | [03:30] |
seongyupyoo | i don't know as i don't know how to do either | [03:30] |
ThickAsThieves | 3 is best | [03:31] |
ThickAsThieves | you dont want to be a destroying coins | [03:31] |
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ThickAsThieves | and you couldnt prove that you were | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | seongyupyoo its simple, just send coins to an address that nobody has the key for. | [03:31] |
seongyupyoo | ok so 1 and 2 are same | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | something arbitrary, like 1thisaddressisablackhole | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | you'll need to calculatge the checksums so it validates, but that's no big deal | [03:31] |
seongyupyoo | ok | [03:31] |
mircea_popescu | 3 you could just add it as miner fee in a tx. | [03:32] |
ThickAsThieves | but the problem there is you are accelerating deflation | [03:32] |
seongyupyoo | so i got that now 1 and 2 are same and you just send to an address that no one has key to | [03:32] |
mircea_popescu | like, make a tx with 100 btc inputs, 1 satoshi outputs | [03:32] |
seongyupyoo | i'm not following you when you say make tx with 100 input to and 1 output | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | all bitcoin txs have some inputs and some outputs. | [03:33] |
seongyupyoo | how verifiable is adding as fee though? | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | very. | [03:33] |
ThickAsThieves | he means .00000001 output | [03:33] |
seongyupyoo | people will need to be able to see that their exact fund amount has been destroyed at that time | [03:33] |
ThickAsThieves | easy you just link them to the tx | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | you just check the tx in blockchain, it'll be there. 100 goes in, 1 goes out so 99 was miner fee | [03:33] |
mircea_popescu | or w/e actual numbers. | [03:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00070092 = 2.8268 BTC [+] | [03:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11595 @ 0.00070129 = 8.1315 BTC [+] | [03:34] |
seongyupyoo | so send money from my wallet to my wallet with 100 input and 1 output if i don't to give back 99? | [03:34] |
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mircea_popescu | um | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | come again ? | [03:35] |
seongyupyoo | i'm just trying to clarify how to make a transaction | [03:35] |
seongyupyoo | who is it going to and from? | [03:36] |
mircea_popescu | whoever you want. | [03:36] |
seongyupyoo | 100 input and 1 output | [03:36] |
ThickAsThieves | you have to send an actual amount (i think) plus a tx fee | [03:36] |
mircea_popescu | i think you'll have to read up on how bitcoin txs work | [03:36] |
ThickAsThieves | most of the destroyed coin would be sent as the tx fee | [03:36] |
maximian | send 0.00000001 BTC to any address, and specify a fee of 99BTC | [03:36] |
ThickAsThieves | but you would send .00000001 of it to yourself | [03:36] |
seongyupyoo | i see so it is fee | [03:36] |
seongyupyoo | i understand that, i thought there was another way to manually setting input and output | [03:36] |
seongyupyoo | how bad is destroying to blackholeaddress? | [03:36] |
ThickAsThieves | i think its bad | [03:37] |
mircea_popescu | pretty bad yea. | [03:37] |
ThickAsThieves | and not necessary | [03:37] |
seongyupyoo | ok | [03:37] |
seongyupyoo | i think that settles it then | [03:37] |
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ThickAsThieves | but do what mp said | [03:37] |
ThickAsThieves | learn more about tx | [03:37] |
ThickAsThieves | and blockchain | [03:37] |
ThickAsThieves | and what your options are | [03:37] |
seongyupyoo | i identified 4 big issues from all the feedback i gather today | [03:37] |
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ThickAsThieves | because you might not want to send a 100btc tx fee | [03:38] |
ThickAsThieves | you might want to send a lot of small ones | [03:38] |
ThickAsThieves | depending on how mining pools snag them | [03:38] |
seongyupyoo | would you guys like to hear the 4 problems, and my plan to solve them? | [03:38] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [03:38] |
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seongyupyoo | well, if i send a lot of small ones, it would be hard for the traders to check their fund was destroyed | [03:39] |
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ThickAsThieves | you can send more than one tx at once i think | [03:39] |
seongyupyoo | i should start running a pool where i keep the transaction fee lol | [03:39] |
seongyupyoo | then i'd need to provide many transation id as a proof of destruction | [03:39] |
seongyupyoo | i think big fee would be fine | [03:40] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe | [03:40] |
seongyupyoo | also i figured out a way so that nobody will ever have to risk 100 BTC | [03:40] |
seongyupyoo | probably 1 BTC to 10 BTC max | [03:40] |
seongyupyoo | so max destruction is going to be 20-40 BTC at most | [03:41] |
seongyupyoo | anyways, the first problem was issue of me running away with risk funds | [03:41] |
kakobrekla | you are now arbitrarily setting what is ok give to pool ops? | [03:41] |
seongyupyoo | I think I can remedy that by putting nashx under my current business of 7 years -> http://mosaically.com | [03:41] |
seongyupyoo | so nashx might run under nashx.mosaically.com | [03:42] |
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seongyupyoo | what do you guys think? | [03:42] |
seongyupyoo | 2nd problem was destroying of the destroyed funds, and i'll handle that by sending it back to blockchain as fee | [03:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46572 @ 0.000703 = 32.7401 BTC [+] | [03:43] |
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seongyupyoo | 3rd problem is transparency, basically the ability for people to be able to see all that is happening in terms of transactions | [03:44] |
seongyupyoo | i'll remedy that by making all transactions and messages between trader and such available for public view | [03:45] |
ThickAsThieves | 1st problem seems like a non-problem with a non-solution | [03:45] |
seongyupyoo | well someone thought that it was an issue, you're right it might not really be an issue. and it really isn't, but it was brought up, and i can see how some people might see that as risk | [03:46] |
seongyupyoo | where as if it was under mosaically umbrella, then it would be under a corporation | [03:46] |
seongyupyoo | more legit | [03:46] |
ThickAsThieves | usagi: nashx.com/about | [03:46] |
seongyupyoo | no i don't, i just made something called nashx | [03:46] |
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seongyupyoo | last problem is problem of big transactions | [03:47] |
kakobrekla | seongyupyoo, balances and txes are public and audiable... so transparency is not a big issue | [03:47] |
seongyupyoo | yes i will see this through | [03:47] |
seongyupyoo | at least to the next version having solve these 4 problems | [03:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.01 = 0.35 BTC [+] | [03:47] |
seongyupyoo | and i'll post it on reddit again, get feedback | [03:47] |
seongyupyoo | sholdn't take long | [03:48] |
ThickAsThieves | for the 3rd problem you can simply make your escrow address publicly known | [03:48] |
ThickAsThieves | or addresses | [03:48] |
ThickAsThieves | however if you escrow everything you slow it down | [03:48] |
seongyupyoo | we don't escrow | [03:48] |
seongyupyoo | it's person-to-person | [03:48] |
ThickAsThieves | where are te collateral coins stored? | [03:49] |
seongyupyoo | well, i really feel that something like nashx needs to exist for everyone's benefit | [03:49] |
seongyupyoo | what collateral? there's no need | [03:49] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe i need to read it better | [03:49] |
seongyupyoo | yeah i think so... :) | [03:49] |
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seongyupyoo | sure | [03:50] |
seongyupyoo | my first name is seong yup | [03:50] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1946133#msg1946133 lol | [03:50] |
seongyupyoo | last name is yoo | [03:50] |
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maximian | Bitcoin has a mechanism for multisig transactions - destruction isn't necessary | [03:51] |
maximian | https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow | [03:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.27500001 BTC [-] | [03:52] |
maximian | unless I've misunderstood what you're trying to do | [03:52] |
mircea_popescu | alrighty, i'm off. cya tomorro. | [03:53] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you'll have to one day sit down and write a full explanation as to why a. you think the us government matters at all and b. you think anyone other than you gives a shit. | [12:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.7051 = 6.8204 BTC [-] | [12:47] |
mircea_popescu | but i mean, a serious, explicit, inquisitive piece like if you were writing a physics paper. | [12:47] |
kakobrekla | what is it down | [12:48] |
thestringpuller | i thought mp said "like writing a physics engine" | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [12:54] |
mircea_popescu | it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc. | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | this is a strictly american phenomenon, unheard of anywhere else, from france to morocco and from russia to iran | [12:55] |
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kakobrekla | ;;later tell benkay is ok now | [12:59] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [12:59] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134295962723.jpg | [13:04] |
kakobrekla | jurov i dont remember what i found it | [13:06] |
kakobrekla | but unix timestamp ftw | [13:06] |
MJR_ | what the fuck is wrong with people who make public policy? | [13:14] |
MJR_ | instead of actually just letting them pay the price that they say they would pay, we take the word for it and set a rate? how does that make any sense | [13:15] |
MJR_ | apparently the swaps market is also rigged like LIBOR | [13:15] |
mircea_popescu | duh. | [13:15] |
MJR_ | well, that is not surprising | [13:15] |
MJR_ | but i just can't believe that no one actually does anything about it | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitbet.us/bet/329/btc-network-difficulty-tops-10-million-by-end/ funny how disputed this one ended up being. | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | somehow magically the bet submitter picked the exact spot where it'd be contentious. | [13:16] |
MJR_ | like...if i went to the supermarket, and they did a survey asking everyone there how much an orange would cost me...instead of letting us just bid on the orange or w/e | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | but this is more democratic. | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | and less capitalistic. | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | both these are good things. especially for people who need beatings, know they need beatings, want to get their ass beaten raw. | [13:17] |
MJR_ | lol | [13:17] |
MJR_ | its also funny cuz they are really DP'ing everyone | [13:18] |
MJR_ | let's cheat and fix the interest rate... | [13:18] |
MJR_ | and then let's cheat and fix the price it takes to switch from variable to fixed rate | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | then people want banks to like bitcoin | [13:18] |
MJR_ | how many other ways can you add corruption to a loan | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | yes dude, totally. they'll love bitcoin, where they have to come to me with that nonsense and be shown the door | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | they love this idea, pls moar. | [13:19] |
MJR_ | well..."banks" is not a great word...there are banks and then there are banks | [13:19] |
MJR_ | its not a monolithic structure... | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | this is very true. | [13:20] |
MJR_ | but, once you are in the club, then you have no worries | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | on the other hand, i'm already buffing my cameras and mics for that glorious moment five or maybe three years down the road | [13:20] |
MJR_ | hehehe | [13:20] |
MJR_ | gonna be fun | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | when random anon bank ceo/vp/etc comes to bitcoin assets to start w/e project | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | and i go are you in the wot ? gtfo. | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | come back 1 yr. | [13:21] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [13:21] |
kakobrekla | we all dreamin. | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | and he's gonna be all whiny and i'm gonna be all dude, we've had this interdweeb nonsense for 3 or 5 years by now. | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | stfu and do whart you're told. | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | and so he's going to dig up the old protest threads on btctalk and bitch about how im a gypsy racist | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | and then our victory will have been complete. | [13:22] |
kakobrekla | lol | [13:22] |
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mircea_popescu | now don't any of you trolls quote this discussion then until after i'm done making teh banker my cockpuppet. | [13:22] |
MJR_ | hehehe | [13:22] |
MJR_ | ewwww, you want a banker for a cockpuppet? | [13:22] |
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mircea_popescu | metaphorically speaking. | [13:22] |
MJR_ | lol | [13:22] |
MJR_ | i know of course | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | i have a 10 foot cock, i can stick it into banker | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | a little | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | at the tip | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of bankers, anyone have any favorite burlesque performers ? | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | i'm going to do like l'oreal etc and have a mpex image chick. | [13:23] |
pizzaman1337 | this is why I have logging turned on | [13:25] |
MJR_ | HAHAHA | [13:25] |
kakobrekla | :D | [13:25] |
MJR_ | yes | [13:25] |
MJR_ | are we going to have the website to archive all of this? | [13:26] |
kakobrekla | yep | [13:26] |
MJR_ | hmmm...what if we put everything from bitcoin-assets into the blockchain? | [13:26] |
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pizzaman1337 | no, bad idea | [13:26] |
pizzaman1337 | blockchain is too big already | [13:26] |
MJR_ | how future generations will judge us... | [13:26] |
mircea_popescu | in fact this chan is growing faster than the blockchain | [13:26] |
kakobrekla | i was trying to add it like yesterday or something but i got distracted | [13:26] |
pizzaman1337 | we don't want everyone dropping their crap in the blockchain | [13:26] |
kakobrekla | irc is to blame | [13:27] |
mircea_popescu | scam. | [13:27] |
MJR_ | i think it'd be hilarious, kinda like putting up posters of miley cyrus in the smithsonian | [13:27] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ they've put seinfeld. | [13:27] |
MJR_ | or doodling on the constitution | [13:27] |
MJR_ | lol | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | and in fairness, the blockchain isn't as bad as either miley cyrus or doodling. | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | we could tolerate it on our chan | [13:28] |
MJR_ | i just think that the whole idea of posterity is going away rather quickly | [13:28] |
MJR_ | we still have the illusion (some of us anyway) that the older generations were respectable | [13:28] |
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MJR_ | our children will prob not have that illusion at all | [13:28] |
kakobrekla | loool | [13:29] |
kakobrekla | MJR_ is worried. | [13:29] |
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MJR_ | srsly | [13:30] |
MJR_ | when your kids can google the things you tweeted as a teenager yourself... | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | o hey, twitter delivers! >> @PaulFish This is what a CEO / founder needs to focus on. This is it. http://t.co/KopwO3Udpy | [13:30] |
MJR_ | or even worse, if they see the pics you've posted of yourself | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | then people wonder why i have the time to irc and chase skirts. | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ i think all future children will have to learn to be comfortable with the fact that their mother's goodies are public record. | [13:31] |
MJR_ | yep | [13:31] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc. << I would attribute that to the general populace being brainwashed into believing revolution is bad | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | are you kidding ? | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | it all started with revolution. | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much the only people who believe revolution is good, other than romanians and who knows who else. | [13:38] |
thestringpuller | isn't that funny though?!?!? | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | kinda | [13:38] |
thestringpuller | Sure we protest, and "get uppity", but in general you're taught all through childhood "do as your told", "don't question authority". | [13:39] |
thestringpuller | Maybe if everyone were more poor? Or perhaps there was truly a need to revolt? American's are very apathetic, and actually seem to "enjoy" the lethargy that arises from it. | [13:40] |
mircea_popescu | that's normal, good and common. | [13:40] |
mircea_popescu | people should do what they're told and not question authority in most cases. | [13:40] |
thestringpuller | People should not be lazy and educate themselves :P | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | that's also | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | but the society where people don't do what they're told and question authority a lot ends up something like france | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | can't get a fucking train on schedule, even if the schedule lists hours only, no minutes. | [13:41] |
thestringpuller | Yea, or you get Detroit. | [13:42] |
thestringpuller | Have you ever been to Detroit? | [13:42] |
MJR_ | i've been to detroit | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | i avoided it. | [13:43] |
thestringpuller | I think mircea_popescu would very well enjoy Detroit. | [13:43] |
thestringpuller | You may need quite a few goons, and maybe a couple of drones... | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | you think ? | [13:45] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [13:45] |
thestringpuller | Dude you survive in Bitcoin land which is like the virtual Detroit. | [13:45] |
thestringpuller | Not only survive but thrive off it. | [13:45] |
thestringpuller | Detroit is yours for the taking I'd think. | [13:45] |
thestringpuller | You lived through the 90's Romanian revolution no? | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | yea... | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | what, i'm not affraid of "bad neighbourhoods" lol. | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | heck, i took teh coindelberg group through one here, it was funnay. | [13:47] |
thestringpuller | is that like a pun? | [13:47] |
mircea_popescu | which one ? | [13:48] |
thestringpuller | coindelberg | [13:48] |
thestringpuller | lol | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | lol. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | the endlessly hacked frenchie guy came up with it | [13:48] |
thestringpuller | Aw. And you were rooting for him. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [13:49] |
mircea_popescu | he has the luck of the irishman in reverse. | [13:49] |
thestringpuller | I wonder how they keep getting in... | [13:50] |
jurov | *that* was bad neighborhood? i failed to notice. no smell, hens or pigs | [13:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069657 = 4.2491 BTC [+] | [13:51] |
thestringpuller | jurov's been to detroit? | [13:51] |
jurov | no, in bratislava | [13:51] |
mircea_popescu | jurov didja notice the gagle of 20 kids threatening to knife each other ? | [13:51] |
jurov | yes i noticed, just joking a bit | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | was kinda funny, they were all "you ciocksucker, i bet you don't have 10 euros on you" "dude, if i do you suck my cock ???" "fuck you, show me" | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | i was like, hey, cool, nobody here is worth less than a million or some shit like that, you people are arguing about who has ten euros. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | inequality ftw. | [13:54] |
jurov | srsly, we need them in -otc. complete with knives | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [13:56] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.98000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 240970.80932549, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 159.66165, 24 hour vwap: 137.00610 | [13:56] |
kakobrekla | 50 here we come! | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [13:57] |
thestringpuller | ;;bids 125 | [13:57] |
gribble | There are currently 3217.5402 bitcoins demanded at or over 125.0 USD, worth 406095.036857 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds | [13:57] |
thestringpuller | ;;asks 140 | [13:57] |
gribble | There are currently 7155.5675 bitcoins offered at or under 140.0 USD, worth 974221.764505 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8159 seconds | [13:57] |
thestringpuller | ;;bids 120 | [13:58] |
gribble | There are currently 18144.077 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2216699.76409 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3246 seconds | [13:58] |
MJR_ | lol coindelberg? | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | totally. | [14:02] |
jurov | all hail our Lord deCrypto | [14:03] |
jurov | http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/ (nsfw) | [14:03] |
mircea_popescu | kinda old this neh ? | [14:04] |
jurov | yay "This subreddit has been slow, as have my mining operations. I thought I'd freshen it up a bit!" | [14:04] |
jurov | old but good | [14:04] |
MJR_ | lol good morning truffles | [14:06] |
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jurov | trrrrrrufflesss? | [14:15] |
jurov | *wink* | [14:16] |
jurov | so you had to be helpful. | [14:16] |
MJR_ | lol, have you guys heard of rebecca martinson | [14:16] |
kakobrekla | truffles your kids will see that. | [14:16] |
jurov | i need help, too | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188178.0 | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | seems btc-e was actuyally hacked last week ? | [14:17] |
Chaang-Noi | and we are back on topic | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | what, is truffles posting nudes ? | [14:18] |
MJR_ | http://gawker.com/5994974/the-most-deranged-sorority-girl-email-you-will-ever-read?popular=true | [14:18] |
MJR_ | this is why i love american colleges | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | [UPDATE 4/25: The sorority sister who authored the email has now resigned. Click here to read the sorority's official statement.] | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | see, this sorty of shit... | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | i would have made her chapter queen for a week, and everyone had to serve her in the nude. | [14:19] |
MJR_ | she is awesome | [14:21] |
MJR_ | she basically is implying that the other girls should have put out more for social status | [14:21] |
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mircea_popescu | yep | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | do you know a name or anything ? | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | i'm inviting her over. | [14:21] |
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MJR_ | rebecca martinson | [14:24] |
MJR_ | my friend sent me that, i just asked one question...is she single | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/50-shades-of-just-okay | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | i dojn't give a flying fuck if she;s single. and tyvm. | [14:25] |
ThickAsThieves | the email doesnt seem that controversial, i expected worse from the hype | [14:27] |
MJR_ | http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/Themed-Parties | [14:28] |
MJR_ | this one is great, sororities hobos and hoes theme parties | [14:28] |
MJR_ | and people say america doesn't have a great educational system... | [14:28] |
kakobrekla | some dumb parents right there | [14:29] |
MJR_ | lol, but...skateboards? | [14:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+] | [14:35] |
MJR_ | ;;ud betch | [14:38] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=betch | A betch is another way of saying "Bitch" except it sounds a million times better and makes you feel cool! | [14:38] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.studentorg.umd.edu/ | [14:42] |
mircea_popescu | check that out lol | [14:42] |
Scrat | are college sororities/fraternities only a murcan thing? or do other western countries have them | [14:43] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much american | [14:44] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,stats | [14:45] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 233241 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9956757.41042 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.9475 | [14:45] |
kakobrekla | so close to 10mil | [14:45] |
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kakobrekla | 21 | [14:46] |
kakobrekla | ya well its a scam! | [14:46] |
KRS1 | lol | [14:47] |
MJR_ | ;;ud cuntpunt | [14:54] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cunt-punt | if a bitch/ minion gets wise with you, you kick and or punch them in their pussy. gets em everytime. If you talk back to me one more time, ill give ya a cunt punt, ... | [14:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 309 @ 0.00278789 = 0.8615 BTC [-] | [15:15] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000001 = 0.56 BTC [-] | [15:17] |
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mircea_popescu | "And how do you know that none of the content was written by people behind it? (And even if it was not written, it was perfectly collected together.)The organization is 100% anonymous with bitcoin early developers and great programmers behind it. Satoshi Nakamoto, before he vanished, in the last interview in April said that he had "moved on to other things," how do you know that GBBG and their software is not that oth | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | er thing." | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | comedy gold. | [15:20] |
pgp2 | mp: what is that in reference to? | [15:23] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1949434#msg1949434 | [15:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4754 @ 0.00069657 = 3.3115 BTC [+] | [15:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15996 @ 0.00069481 = 11.1142 BTC [-] | [15:27] |
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ThickAsThieves | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1950787#msg1950787 friedcat update | [15:36] |
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Chaang-Noi | thanks | [15:40] |
Chaang-Noi | doubling in a week is pretty good | [15:40] |
Chaang-Noi | wish it was more however | [15:40] |
Chaang-Noi | 138 again on btc, fucking all over the place | [15:42] |
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Chaang-Noi | 120 to 166 range is nuts... | [15:42] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;bids 120 | [15:42] |
gribble | There are currently 22399.07 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2772336.48921 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds | [15:42] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 166 | [15:42] |
gribble | There are currently 33114.795 bitcoins offered at or under 166.0 USD, worth 5071504.2059 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3661 seconds | [15:42] |
Chaang-Noi | hmm | [15:43] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;bids 0 | [15:43] |
gribble | There are currently 33503993 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19202524.8757 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.8066 seconds | [15:43] |
Chaang-Noi | down a bit... | [15:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00070059 = 6.7607 BTC [+] | [15:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00278789 = 2.7879 BTC [-] | [15:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-] | [15:53] |
error4733 | ;;next | [15:54] |
gribble | *AWAY UNTIL April 28* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 4 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 28 seconds ago | [15:54] |
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Cylta | where I can read more about what exactly mean for example O.USD.C152N? | [16:16] |
ThickAsThieves | oddly i dont think there is a good description faq for mpex options on the mpex website | [16:17] |
ThickAsThieves | but i know full explanations exists in the forums | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta call struck at 152 expiring next month | [16:18] |
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error4733 | MP blog no ? for a good description | [16:21] |
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mircea_popescu | error4733 i thought they're explained to death everywhere, forum, blog etc. | [16:26] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1629 BTC [+] | [16:27] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+] | [16:28] |
error4733 | yes but not on MPEX #irony | [16:28] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [16:30] |
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KRS-1 | Very funny mircea popescu..Can I have my anal room back please | [16:32] |
KRS-1 | why would you want bitcoin anal | [16:32] |
KRS-1 | I'm not trying to be an ass | [16:32] |
KRS-1 | Thats ok..I'll get it in the end | [16:33] |
mircea_popescu | wait what ?! | [16:33] |
KRS-1 | Says you registered my anal chat | [16:33] |
KRS-1 | Can I have my anal chat room back pls | [16:34] |
KRS-1 | lol | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | i have ?! | [16:34] |
KRS-1 | [Notice] -ChanServ- #bitcoin-anal is already registered to mircea_popescu. | [16:34] |
KRS-1 | Isnt anything sacred anymore | [16:34] |
pgp2 | lol | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | whoa | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | kickass. | [16:35] |
KRS-1 | haha its a nice channel though | [16:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.163 = 2.326 BTC [+] | [16:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1638 = 8.1466 BTC [+] | [16:37] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1635 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
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MJR_ | you jacked #bitcoin-anal?? | [16:40] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+] | [16:40] |
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Cylta | If I understand correctly, asset "O.USD.C086T" is a call option from price of 86 usd per btc that will expire this month. Why people sell it, if price is already significally higher? and for what amount is this option? | [16:42] |
ThickAsThieves | Cylta, you need to wait until new options are created tonight/tomorrow | [16:43] |
ThickAsThieves | current prices are "glitched" | [16:43] |
ThickAsThieves | (not actually quoting anyone) | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta you understand how options work, do you ? | [16:43] |
ThickAsThieves | he was looking for a full guide earlier | [16:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | i dont have the link saved tho | [16:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | you should post that shit at mpex.com | [16:45] |
ThickAsThieves | .co* | [16:45] |
Cylta | mircea_popescu: I did not expect, that you can buysell options with different price than current price. that's looks strange for me. | [16:45] |
error4733 | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/ | [16:46] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+] | [16:46] |
error4733 | http://daytrading.about.com/od/daytradingglossary/g/OptionsCallPut.htm | [16:47] |
Cylta | error4733: thanks! | [16:48] |
ThickAsThieves | neither of those links will help you enough | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0 | [16:48] |
error4733 | the price is not different, it's a like a bet ! | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | prolly should start there. | [16:48] |
ThickAsThieves | thats the good one! | [16:48] |
ThickAsThieves | would you consider adding that link to the mpex faq? | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | well the idea kinda is that the mpex faq is about mpex, and people should be learning about options other places. | [16:50] |
deadweasel | $acg | [16:50] |
deadweasel | $avg | [16:50] |
mpexbot | deadweasel: 135.85 | [16:50] |
deadweasel | crap. hey mp, does the bot come online to buy back my calls at a fraction of the price I bought them for? | [16:51] |
ThickAsThieves | asking mp for something = always asking too much | [16:52] |
deadweasel | answers are usually rec'd. | [16:52] |
deadweasel | which is something. | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | "for" | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | he will speak to you, just not act for you | [16:53] |
deadweasel | we'll see. | [16:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+] | [16:53] |
deadweasel | all i want is an answer | [16:53] |
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deadweasel | unless you want to buy some calls at 215 ThickAsThieves ! : | [16:53] |
deadweasel | :D | [16:53] |
ThickAsThieves | already burdened with Put at 89 | [16:54] |
ThickAsThieves | Puts* | [16:54] |
deadweasel | ouchie, should exercised them demons... i did the avg ever come down that far? | [16:54] |
ThickAsThieves | and calls the mysteriously excercised at 0 | [16:54] |
deadweasel | or was the 50 bounce too quick? | [16:54] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000641 = 0.0962 BTC [-] | [16:54] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00983 = 0.0492 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00983 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00982 = 0.0786 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000639 = 0.0058 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00981 = 0.1472 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000635 = 0.0191 BTC [-] | [16:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000631 = 0.0063 BTC [-] | [16:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00281 = 0.0843 BTC [+] | [16:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00281 BTC [+] | [16:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 97 @ 0.0028 = 0.2716 BTC [-] | [16:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-] | [16:57] |
ThickAsThieves | my MPOE PT shares seem to be being held hostage by DeadTerra, who is disinclined to trasnfer them to Jurov for me. | [16:57] |
deadweasel | lol, i sold EVERYTHING. I don't want to hold of any of that crap right now. | [16:58] |
jurov | did he said as much? or is he just silent? | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | silent | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | after several messages | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | and sign-ons by him | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | in forum | [16:58] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe he's busy playing Starcraft or sumth | [16:59] |
kakobrekla | i wouldnt trust a guy who plays xbox | [17:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1638 = 3.4914 BTC [+] | [17:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1649 BTC [+] | [17:00] |
ThickAsThieves | AM is gonna rally again | [17:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.165 = 11.65 BTC [+] | [17:00] |
ThickAsThieves | friedcat confirmed 15TH will be online within a week | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | ok so who wants to or knows anyone wanting to model tits for a new project of mine ? | [17:01] |
ThickAsThieves | MPOE-PR seems to be equipped | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | im trying to spread bitcoin incomes to poor girls. | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | she ain't poor. | [17:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.01629 = 0.4887 BTC [+] | [17:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000679 = 0.1019 BTC [+] | [17:03] |
ThickAsThieves | Maybe reddit wants to help | [17:05] |
Cylta | mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin ? i think many of them may help you | [17:05] |
KRS-1 | I'm a poor girls. | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | a ty | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | KRS-1 you female ? | [17:05] |
KRS-1 | i can be | [17:05] |
KRS-1 | how much btc we talkin here | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | talk to goat, i don't do ladyboiz | [17:06] |
KRS-1 | lulz | [17:06] |
KRS-1 | ok i'll settle for ltc ...? | [17:06] |
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KRS-1 | nmc? | [17:07] |
Cylta | KRS-1: may be xrp =) | [17:07] |
KRS-1 | whats a xrp | [17:07] |
gribble | There are currently 165183.38 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14103182.0003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds | [17:08] |
gribble | There are currently 69668.083 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 11769976.7017 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.4491 seconds | [17:08] |
Cylta | KRS-1: premined, centrelised, low-value, with-no-future coin =) | [17:08] |
davout | mircea_popescu: you could organize orgies in romania, get bitcoins spent, and poor girls richer | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | o look who's back | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | i think ima organise lockable cages webhosting first, frenchie :D | [17:09] |
kakobrekla | lol | [17:09] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.41 = 5.74 BTC [+] | [17:09] |
davout | mircea_popescu: where do i sign? | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | ovh.com/suckers-apply-here | [17:09] |
davout | yeah well | [17:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1978 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | so how's paris ? | [17:10] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
davout | being hit by the very thing you were discussing a couple of hours ago on #bitcoin-assets OH THE IRONY | [17:10] |
davout | dirty as usual | [17:11] |
MJR_ | lol | [17:11] |
MJR_ | hi davout | [17:11] |
davout | MJR_: hello | [17:11] |
MJR_ | whats new | [17:11] |
KRS-1 | whats up MJR- | [17:11] |
davout | MJR_: well. https://bitcoin-central.net pretty much sums it all up | [17:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+] | [17:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.198 = 14.376 BTC [+] | [17:13] |
mircea_popescu | i do think the idea to reaudit the entire thing leisurely is best. | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | who came up with it ? | [17:14] |
davout | mircea_popescu: the idea of re-auditing ? | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | you know, take service down, check everything, no rush | [17:15] |
davout | i did | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | good call. | [17:15] |
davout | my intelligence is limited, but i do have enough to see when taking a step back is needed | [17:16] |
davout | :-) | [17:16] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;getrating davout | [17:18] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User davout, rated since Thu Jan 27 14:22:24 2011. Cumulative rating 14, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=davout | [17:18] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188353.0 here we go | [17:19] |
jurov | replied | [17:19] |
MJR_ | lol | [17:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003071 = 0.0154 BTC [-] | [17:21] |
MJR_ | how much resemblance necessary? | [17:21] |
jurov | but dunno how many topless models frequent irc.. maybe usagi will volunteer? | [17:21] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1950361#msg1950361 | [17:21] |
MJR_ | lol yeah | [17:21] |
kakobrekla | also scroll up wtf? | [17:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00307 = 0.0246 BTC [-] | [17:22] |
kakobrekla | who is the attention whore now | [17:22] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17603 BTC [-] | [17:22] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00981 = 0.0589 BTC [-] | [17:23] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0098 = 0.0392 BTC [-] | [17:23] |
ThickAsThieves | nice pic, rivals even MP's pics | [17:23] |
jurov | My burn rate is currently about $200,000 per month if I continue at this level | [17:23] |
jurov | mpoe-pr should comment how much women if mp's burn rate | [17:23] |
jurov | *is | [17:24] |
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kakobrekla | omg that thread | [17:25] |
kakobrekla | it continiues into total retarded noobishness | [17:25] |
bitcoin_lady | Hello :p | [17:25] |
B0g4r7 | B0g4r7_ b0n1 beetlebee bgupta bitcoin_lady blacktape BTCOxygen bVector bycy | [17:25] |
mircea_popescu | heya bitcoin_lady | [17:26] |
j0w | :) | [17:26] |
ThickAsThieves | this should be fun | [17:26] |
kakobrekla | it it apropriate to say "tits or gtfo" ? | [17:26] |
bitcoin_lady | This is not /b/, faggot. | [17:27] |
kakobrekla | its a meta question, lady. | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | haha cool. | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | so this rpietila guy is trying to be me two years later basically ? | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin_lady to read your private messages click on the tab | [17:28] |
kakobrekla | mircea_popescu i think he is a liar ... saying he was 'around' first bubbl | [17:28] |
kakobrekla | e | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | ya well. | [17:28] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | people love pumping themselves up for w/e reason. | [17:28] |
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kakobrekla | i mean the guy sent 13 btc to some other guy | [17:30] |
kakobrekla | to prove he is rich | [17:30] |
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kakobrekla | that only proves he is an idiot | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much. | [17:30] |
error4733 | ? | [17:30] |
error4733 | i check the address on blockchain | [17:30] |
error4733 | he didnt sent | [17:30] |
kakobrekla | apparently was internal tx of easywallet | [17:31] |
kakobrekla | i mean its that or he has two accounts | [17:31] |
kakobrekla | and is self trolling | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [17:31] |
kakobrekla | and so incapable | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | what idiot. | [17:31] |
error4733 | self trolling imo | [17:31] |
kakobrekla | that he doesnt even do blockchain tx | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | somebody drop a link to mpex's public addy, see what he says | [17:31] |
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Cylta | why people sell options above 1btc? looks like profit may not break the edge of 1btc per option. | [17:37] |
Cylta | at lest for calls | [17:38] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta the bot is a little crazy currently. | [17:38] |
mircea_popescu | you can sell them for whatever you want tho. | [17:39] |
Cylta | but by math, any calls that are sold for more, than 1 btc is just waiting of buyers money :P kind of math exam? | [17:39] |
Chaang-Noi | kakobrekla that guy.. wtf was he thinking? | [17:40] |
kakobrekla | he wasnt | [17:40] |
kakobrekla | and isnt | [17:40] |
Chaang-Noi | you know he has a party or gathering or something in finland? | [17:40] |
kakobrekla | and wont be | [17:40] |
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Chaang-Noi | he asked me to go, and then asked for btc :/ | [17:41] |
kakobrekla | omg | [17:41] |
kakobrekla | how much | [17:41] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont know, it goes up the longer i wait. but i guess there is hotel or something involved | [17:41] |
Chaang-Noi | but there are no details that i can find | [17:41] |
Chaang-Noi | im not going so i just sorta ignored it but then i saw this and was like wtf?? | [17:42] |
kakobrekla | lol | [17:42] |
kakobrekla | well this is bitcoin, everyone and their sister is the biggest expert | [17:42] |
jurov | and their dog | [17:42] |
jurov | yes, this is a dog. | [17:43] |
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Chaang-Noi | kako i cant tell if he is some silver hot shot invester who made money in the run up and now did well in btc in the last 4 months or is just a full scammer | [17:44] |
Chaang-Noi | btw is he claiming to have 2.4k btc or 24k btc? | [17:44] |
kakobrekla | i dont know | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | he was buying at ~100 | [17:45] |
jurov | 2.4k mbtc | [17:45] |
Chaang-Noi | no i did very well in silver and then i did very well in btc/ltc and asicminer | [17:45] |
jurov | he's givind errythign in mbtc | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | yes retarded | [17:45] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah buying at over 100 is not something id brag about | [17:45] |
Chaang-Noi | we are not even sure if he has money or is just a troll | [17:45] |
Chaang-Noi | he tried to prove he had money by moving 13 btc and it never showed up on the block chain.... | [17:46] |
Chaang-Noi | he might not have any btc | [17:46] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [17:46] |
kakobrekla | strange he is not aware that he cant sign an addy | [17:47] |
kakobrekla | i mean | [17:47] |
kakobrekla | sign something with priv key of an addy | [17:47] |
Chaang-Noi | he sent from a fucking web wallet | [17:48] |
Troic_ | perhaps his web wallet, nm says it all | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | you can sign from blockchain.info wallet | [17:48] |
Chaang-Noi | who the fuck uses a web wallet? i understand maybe the troll had one but a guy with 24k or 2.4k lol | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | o looky | [17:49] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188304.0 | [17:49] |
Chaang-Noi | what is easywallet? iv never used it | [17:49] |
kakobrekla | it must have rained recently | [17:49] |
kakobrekla | "its time to make a change" cause you defo wont be "making a bank" | [17:49] |
deadweasel | http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425 | [17:52] |
deadweasel | howdy truf | [17:53] |
Chaang-Noi | what happened to tiberslav? | [17:54] |
deadweasel | i was just impressed that rolling stone changed their position. my panties are in the laundry. | [17:54] |
deadweasel | he's nowhere with /ignore! | [17:55] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187469.0 | [17:55] |
kakobrekla | yes | [17:55] |
kakobrekla | i think they are that retarded. | [17:55] |
Chaang-Noi | 1 btc = 1000 nBTC? | [17:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.198 = 2.396 BTC [+] | [17:57] |
Chaang-Noi | mBTC? | [17:57] |
Cylta | Chaang-Noi: mBTC | [17:57] |
Cylta | Chaang-Noi: 1 btc = 1 000 000 nBTC | [17:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+] | [17:58] |
mircea_popescu | [17:58] | |
Cylta | oh, no.. 1 btc = 1 000 mBTC = 1 000 000 uBTC = 1 000 000 000 nBTC | [17:58] |
Chaang-Noi | mp did you not get the invite? | [17:58] |
mircea_popescu | dude this is so ridiculous | [17:58] |
Chaang-Noi | its like in 2 weeks as well | [17:58] |
ThickAsThieves | i am fond of the ignore function | [17:58] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.400001 = 1.2 BTC [-] | [17:59] |
mircea_popescu | so did he hear about my thing and is trying to copy retardedly | [17:59] |
mircea_popescu | or just natural retard ? | [17:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.3 BTC [-] | [17:59] |
Chaang-Noi | i want to post in public is pm to me but i dont want to violate privacy issues | [17:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+] | [18:00] |
mircea_popescu | kinda worth it for the lulz, | [18:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 44 @ 0.00307 = 0.1351 BTC [-] | [18:01] |
mircea_popescu | kinda not worth it dfor the drama | [18:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00306 = 0.2999 BTC [-] | [18:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 570 @ 0.00306 = 1.7442 BTC [-] | [18:01] |
Chaang-Noi | he said he was going to make it public somewhere | [18:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 130 @ 0.00301 = 0.3913 BTC [-] | [18:01] |
Chaang-Noi | but i never saw that | [18:01] |
ThickAsThieves | sharing pms violates privacy issues? | [18:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4244 = 2.5464 BTC [-] | [18:02] |
ThickAsThieves | violates trust only, i thought | [18:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1999 = 2.3998 BTC [+] | [18:02] |
Chaang-Noi | it is a personal invite to his party, i dont think i should share it word for word | [18:02] |
Chaang-Noi | fine its a trust issue, | [18:02] |
ThickAsThieves | oh i get it | [18:02] |
ThickAsThieves | like it has personal info in it | [18:02] |
Chaang-Noi | it has info he said he would make public | [18:03] |
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Chaang-Noi | but i dont know where or if he has | [18:03] |
Chaang-Noi | hey kako that thread is self moderated | [18:04] |
mircea_popescu | http://i.imgur.com/xQE0Tgsl.jpg | [18:04] |
Chaang-Noi | he is going to get rid of all of that | [18:04] |
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mircea_popescu | ajhahaha dude bought a $5 ad in an ad paper | [18:04] |
mircea_popescu | bwahahaha | [18:04] |
mircea_popescu | dude never has so much been attempted with so little. | [18:04] |
Girlfawkesy | I understand MP was looking for me? | [18:05] |
Chaang-Noi | its a scam mp? | [18:05] |
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Girlfawkesy | I dunno, I got a message on reddit | [18:05] |
Girlfawkesy | not much info was given, and I was curious | [18:06] |
mircea_popescu | Girlfawkesy hey there. | [18:06] |
jcpham | what is #bitcoin-assets? | [18:06] |
jcpham | bitcoin-asshats? | [18:06] |
imsaguy | gypsy bazaar | [18:06] |
Troic_ | its a virtual lobby for mp ? | [18:06] |
Cylta | jcpham: temple of mircea_popescu =) | [18:06] |
Technologov__ | what is traded on this bazaar ? | [18:06] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy is alive ?! | [18:06] |
jcpham | mp has a following? | [18:06] |
kakobrekla | slaves | [18:06] |
Chaang-Noi | tears | [18:06] |
jcpham | sadness | [18:06] |
Scrat | dreams | [18:06] |
imsaguy | mircea_popescu: I was on a trip | [18:06] |
mircea_popescu | Technologov__ its the place where bitcoin securities get discussed. | [18:06] |
Technologov__ | such as ? | [18:07] |
Technologov__ | Are there any ? ^^ | [18:07] |
jcpham | these guys in otc are selling an ASIC startup | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.mpoe | [18:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067399 / 0.00069538 / 0.000703 (298127 shares, 207.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00064141 / 0.0006982 / 0.00073891 (2649171 shares, 1,849.67 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068714 / 0.00073891 (10288649 shares, 7,069.75 BTC) | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.dice | [18:07] |
jcpham | telling people 200% returns | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 (1309 shares, 3.65 BTC), 7D: 0.0023263 / 0.00295308 / 0.00349995 (32043 shares, 94.63 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00317689 / 0.00448 (1524631 shares, 4,843.59 BTC) | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.bbet | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00177875 / 0.00201395 (137670 shares, 244.88 BTC) | [18:07] |
mircea_popescu | etc. | [18:07] |
jcpham | i told 'em to come here! | [18:07] |
imsaguy | I think asicminer needs a passthrough on mpex | [18:07] |
imsaguy | they're everywhere else | [18:08] |
Chaang-Noi | lol | [18:08] |
jcpham | think asicminer needs to send me some blades | [18:08] |
imsaguy | better yet | [18:08] |
jcpham | so i can erupt some shit | [18:08] |
Chaang-Noi | AM does not need it, mpex might need it | [18:08] |
imsaguy | a passthrough for the passthroughs | [18:08] |
imsaguy | make a synthetic | [18:08] |
jcpham | we could proxy all the proxies | [18:08] |
imsaguy | exactly | [18:08] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy the day they sign a contract. | [18:08] |
Chaang-Noi | AM has all the funding they need, they dont need shit | [18:08] |
jcpham | [18:08] | |
Chaang-Noi | mp, friedcat will never sign a contract | [18:08] |
imsaguy | mircea_popescu: AM needs to sign if its a passthrough? | [18:08] |
imsaguy | mircea_popescu: can you read chinese? | [18:09] |
mircea_popescu | they need to sign if its on mpex. | [18:09] |
Chaang-Noi | they wont sign | [18:09] |
Chaang-Noi | why take a risk with no gain? | [18:09] |
imsaguy | those chinese won't sign anything unless its in chinese | [18:09] |
* | mircea_popescu shrug. | [18:09] |
imsaguy | stupid china | [18:09] |
ThickAsThieves | its a moot point, like Chaang says, they don't need anything | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | i can't be stonewalled. he won't sign, he won't exist pretty much. | [18:10] |
jcpham | forget about asicminer | [18:10] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: lol | [18:10] |
jcpham | get in on the ground floor of peachMining | [18:10] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: Use google translate.. | [18:10] |
BTCOxygen | :P | [18:10] |
Chaang-Noi | haha AM wont exist :) hahahah | [18:10] |
imsaguy | jcpham, I'm goign to form my own asic company | [18:10] |
jcpham | tell me more BTCOxygen | [18:10] |
Chaang-Noi | 10% of the network and soon to be 20% | [18:10] |
Technologov__ | There is an opportunity to Invest in Avalon ASIC chips. | [18:10] |
Technologov__ | Run by |
[18:10] |
Technologov__ | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0 | [18:10] |
jcpham | -otc is a terrible place to sell the idea | [18:10] |
imsaguy | Chaang-Noi, they've been promising for a while | [18:10] |
imsaguy | they're starting to sound like bfl | [18:11] |
Scrat | imsaguy: cant help but misread your nick as imsogay :'( | [18:11] |
imsaguy | always delays | [18:11] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999997 BTC [+] | [18:11] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+] | [18:11] |
mircea_popescu | Scrat for good reason. | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | they ahve the chips, they dont have the power | [18:11] |
imsaguy | Scrat: it happens to those with a reading level below the american fourth grade | [18:11] |
jcpham | imsogay | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | did you read his update today? | [18:11] |
jcpham | so funny | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | and anyway they have 7.7 TH | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | that is much more than not existing | [18:11] |
imsaguy | they're supposed to have like 12 TH | [18:11] |
imsaguy | like 3 months ago | [18:11] |
ThickAsThieves | ^ | [18:11] |
imsaguy | how are they going to add 50 more if they can't get teh original going? | [18:11] |
ThickAsThieves | they did, they just didnt share | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | my point was, MP claim of them not existing if they are not on his eschagne is lulz | [18:12] |
imsaguy | ThickAsThieves, most likely | [18:12] |
jcpham | so 2.8TH/s for 3500BTC? | [18:12] |
imsaguy | Chaang-Noi: he meant they won't exist on the exchange, derp | [18:12] |
jcpham | ;;genrate 28000000 | [18:12] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 28000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 1569.07933912 BTC per day and 65.3783057965 BTC per hour. | [18:12] |
Cylta | Can I create options? and do I have to keep a balance to cover them? (and what do I have to do with puts, because they may cost ~inf in case if price will go to 0)? | [18:12] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta yes, you can create options. you need to cover them. | [18:12] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: 3TH/s. | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | imsaguy and that is what i told you | [18:12] |
BTCOxygen | Will update OP in few hours. | [18:12] |
jcpham | ;;calc 3500*[ticker --avg] | [18:12] |
gribble | 476259.42 | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | they dont need anything. | [18:13] |
jcpham | ;;bc,stats | [18:13] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 233265 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9964156.51421 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.02995 | [18:13] |
imsaguy | THey need content shareholders. | [18:13] |
jcpham | what's the timeline until deployed BTCOxygen | [18:13] |
imsaguy | Well, technically, they don't even need that. | [18:13] |
ThickAsThieves | they have content shareholders | [18:13] |
imsaguy | At this point, asicminer has the shareholders by the balls. | [18:13] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: ~July. | [18:13] |
Scrat | jcpham thats one zero too many | [18:13] |
jcpham | ;;genrate 2800000 | [18:13] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 2800000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 156.907933912 BTC per day and 6.53783057965 BTC per hour. | [18:13] |
jcpham | ? | [18:13] |
BTCOxygen | ;;generate 3000000 | [18:13] |
gribble | Error: "generate" is not a valid command. | [18:14] |
BTCOxygen | ;;genrate 3000000 | [18:14] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 168.115643477 BTC per day and 7.00481847819 BTC per hour. | [18:14] |
jcpham | i'm betting we're way way over 20mil by july in diff | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu | there's this crazy gbet about 10mn diff by end of month | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu | im so curious which way it neds | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu | like 10-20k riding on it | [18:14] |
jcpham | ;;genrate 3000000 20000000 | [18:14] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 20000000.0, is 75.4359774646 BTC per day and 3.14316572769 BTC per hour. | [18:14] |
imsaguy | mircea_popescu, which side are you on? | [18:15] |
mircea_popescu | neither actually | [18:15] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Even if difficulty hit 35mil you are still safe. | [18:15] |
jcpham | ;;calc 75*[ticker --avg]*30 | [18:15] |
gribble | 306166.77 | [18:15] |
imsaguy | anyone saying a 10x diff hike is nbd is crazy | [18:15] |
jcpham | at 20 mil difficulty who is selling the $306k in coins you mine in july | [18:15] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: So you are saying that the difficulty will not hit 100m ? | [18:16] |
jcpham | ;;genrate 3000000 40000000 | [18:16] |
gribble | The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 40000000.0, is 37.7179887323 BTC per day and 1.57158286385 BTC per hour. | [18:16] |
jcpham | follow up question | [18:16] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Profits will be paid out to investors in Bitcoins. | [18:16] |
jcpham | ;;calc 37*[ticker --avg]*30 | [18:16] |
gribble | 151040.4084 | [18:16] |
imsaguy | I know difficuilty will hit much higher than that | [18:16] |
jcpham | who sel the 150k in coins the new month at 40 mil | [18:16] |
jcpham | it difficult for me to trust | [18:17] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Why sell the coins ? | [18:17] |
jcpham | ic | [18:17] |
jcpham | you are right | [18:17] |
jcpham | but you want btc upfront? | [18:17] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Dividends will be paid in Bitcoins. | [18:18] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Yes we need funding for the project. | [18:18] |
jcpham | name "we" | [18:18] |
jcpham | publicly | [18:18] |
BTCOxygen | Our team | [18:19] |
BTCOxygen | Our = I and my partner. | [18:19] |
imsaguy | This interview is going well. | [18:19] |
imsaguy | <.< | [18:19] |
BTCOxygen | team = The people working for us. | [18:19] |
imsaguy | >.> | [18:19] |
jcpham | you should get used to saying "me John Q Whatever and my partner Steven X> whocares" | [18:19] |
* | Technologov__ notes, that BTCOxygen has a mining pool. | [18:19] |
Scrat | the chinese | [18:20] |
Scrat | BTCOxygen: are they chinese? | [18:20] |
Technologov__ | http://btcoxygen.com/ | [18:20] |
jcpham | it's half mil in BTC up front | [18:20] |
imsaguy | Technologov__: mining pool software is prepackaged these days. it doesn't take rocket science to run it. | [18:20] |
jcpham | it's a great idea but you'll need more of a following | [18:21] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: Yeah it does not need rocket science, Also we built our custom poolserver, Plus we have paid users without troubles. | [18:22] |
BTCOxygen | Thats what brings the trust. | [18:22] |
BTCOxygen | Paying users = trust. | [18:22] |
imsaguy | you're right | [18:22] |
imsaguy | I apologize | [18:22] |
imsaguy | http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4868208981114978&pid=1.7 | [18:23] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: heh. | [18:24] |
BTCOxygen | If anyone is interested please PM me. | [18:24] |
Technologov__ | jcpham, read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0 | [18:24] |
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jcpham | i'm not going to jump on the tread and be mean but like those guys are saying | [18:26] |
jcpham | 3500 btc upfront and AT BEST you'll generate 150BTC/monthly | [18:26] |
jcpham | ;;calc 3500/150 | [18:26] |
gribble | 23.3333333333 | [18:26] |
jcpham | 23 month roi | [18:26] |
jcpham | assuming rainbows | [18:26] |
jcpham | and there are no rainbows here | [18:26] |
Scrat | it is 150 btc daily | [18:27] |
jcpham | oh shit | [18:27] |
jcpham | u right my maths is so bad | [18:27] |
jcpham | where do i sign up? I have 1 btc to contrtibute | [18:27] |
Scrat | but that doesn't make it anymore viable | [18:27] |
Scrat | as you said it's a lot of dough upfront | [18:27] |
jcpham | i'd like one share please. | [18:28] |
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jborkl | You owe Topace 20 btc right? | [18:28] |
jborkl | that you have not paid in how long | [18:28] |
jborkl | ? | [18:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
KRS-1 | wow price of btc looks higer for once on btc-e | [18:30] |
kakobrekla | its not | [18:31] |
kakobrekla | http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected | [18:31] |
KRS-1 | my bad cached | [18:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.09749 = 1.6573 BTC [-] | [18:31] |
KRS-1 | you're right | [18:31] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09749 BTC [-] | [18:31] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: Pm me if interested. | [18:32] |
BTCOxygen | jborkl: I have been paing him from my profits. | [18:32] |
BTCOxygen | ;;calc 3500/(150 * 30) | [18:32] |
gribble | 0.777777777778 | [18:32] |
BTCOxygen | jcpham: ^^^ | [18:33] |
BTCOxygen | truffles: It sounds cool to me. | [18:35] |
Chilca | Nice site: http://www.satoshiplay.com/ | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | Proudly powered by WordPress. GamePress ? | [18:40] |
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mircea_popescu | "I think rpietila is very close to establishing cult of personality. What MP achieves with mental coercion, rpietila does using humour, and with ease." | [18:44] |
MJR_ | lol | [18:45] |
MJR_ | who is that guy? | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | no srlsy, the bitcointalk forum is like... seinfeld. | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ i totally have no idea. | [18:45] |
MJR_ | hmmm i think i am going to do an otc transaction | [18:45] |
mircea_popescu | "some douche" is the best i got out of mpoe-pr | [18:45] |
MJR_ | or at least try | [18:45] |
Technologov__ | So what kind of assets are here? | [18:46] |
Technologov__ | Any good Bitcoins companies traded ? | [18:46] |
Technologov__ | start-ups ? | [18:46] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [18:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 46 @ 0.0975 = 4.485 BTC [+] | [18:49] |
MJR_ | hmmm | [18:50] |
MJR_ | anyone here know of a quick cash option? | [18:51] |
jborkl | I feel dumb for reading part of that reptelia thread | [18:51] |
jborkl | reminds me why I do not read the forum | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ what do you mean quick cash option ? | [18:51] |
cylta | MJR_: pirate? but unfortunately he temporarly suspended his project =) | [18:52] |
BTCOxygen | cylta: FYI, He permenently suspended his project. | [18:52] |
mircea_popescu | stop spreading fud | [18:52] |
cylta | BTCOxygen: |
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Technologov__ | who is "he" ? | [18:53] |
Technologov__ | And which project ? | [18:53] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136699181151.jpg check out the cat. | [18:57] |
inhies | mircea_popescu: wat cat | [18:57] |
jurov | yes a cat is there, zoom moar | [18:58] |
mircea_popescu | jurov has immunity. | [18:58] |
inhies | slightly intoxicated | [18:59] |
inhies | i see no cat | [18:59] |
inhies | not even in teh slightest bit | [18:59] |
Cylta | I see two cats =) | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | maybe if upside down ? | [18:59] |
jurov | two cats at 10 o'clock | [18:59] |
davout | i smell pussy | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | so wash. | [18:59] |
davout | :3 | [18:59] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:59] |
inhies | ˙ɹǝʇʇǝq ɥɔnɯ s,ʇɐɥʇ ˙ʍou ʇı ǝǝs ı 'ʞo ɥɐ :nɔsǝdod‾ɐǝɔɹıɯ | [19:00] |
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mircea_popescu | haha | [19:00] |
topace | [11:27:57] |
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topace | ^ indeed he does | [19:01] |
inhies | i read that as Tupac | [19:01] |
inhies | =/ | [19:01] |
mircea_popescu | that's intentional | [19:02] |
mircea_popescu | he's trying to start a personality cult | [19:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4244 = 2.122 BTC [-] | [19:05] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.21 = 4.84 BTC [-] | [19:09] |
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hellohello | can someone help me?)) | [19:36] |
kakobrekla | hello hellohello | [19:37] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: pirateat40 was a scammer. | [19:39] |
BTCOxygen | He ran away with the bitcoins. | [19:40] |
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Technologov__ | ??? I never ever heard of him. | [19:40] |
Technologov__ | How an investor be a scammer ? | [19:40] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: Yeah because he ran away long ago. | [19:40] |
Technologov__ | Either he invests or he does not. | [19:40] |
BTCOxygen | He is not an Investor. | [19:40] |
BTCOxygen | He was running the project. | [19:41] |
Technologov__ | then what ? Which project ? | [19:41] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: He was paying a high interest rate to users who invested with him. | [19:41] |
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Technologov__ | aha. Typical ponzi. | [19:41] |
BTCOxygen | yep. | [19:42] |
Technologov__ | There is no risk-free interest above government bonds. Really. | [19:42] |
Technologov__ | maybe 3% at most. | [19:42] |
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Technologov__ | As a small investor, I know it for sure. | [19:42] |
Technologov__ | Anything above that takes risk (and time). | [19:43] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: FYI, He ran away with 100,000 Bitcoins. | [19:43] |
Technologov__ | YAY ! | [19:43] |
Technologov__ | huge amount | [19:43] |
Cylta | Technologov__: goverment bonds are not risk-free. | [19:43] |
BTCOxygen | I don't want to do the math its painfull. | [19:43] |
Technologov__ | Cylta, why not ? gvmt can simply print money to return cash. | [19:43] |
Technologov__ | so it is risk-free. | [19:44] |
mircea_popescu | heya hellohello | [19:44] |
Technologov__ | gvmt has no reason to default on own obligations. | [19:44] |
hellohello | hi | [19:44] |
Cylta | Technologov__: ahhh, in this meaning... yes. but money can default (or start to huperinflate) | [19:44] |
BTCOxygen | ;;calc 100000*[ticker --avg] | [19:44] |
gribble | 13572660.0 | [19:44] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: ^^^ Here is the math. | [19:44] |
Technologov__ | (only if they use someone else's money, like in Spain... those PIGS - pirtugal, italy, greece, spain) | [19:45] |
Cylta | BTCOxygen: for such amount you should take 30d avg... | [19:45] |
BTCOxygen | Also IIRC he converted bitcoins to USD as soon as he recieved them. | [19:46] |
BTCOxygen | So hes not that rich. | [19:46] |
Technologov__ | converting 100,000 BTC takes time... | [19:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1791 @ 0.00278789 = 4.9931 BTC [-] | [19:47] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: He recieved in small chunks with a total of 100,000 before he ran away. | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | not if you're in the wot. took him all of a day oir w./e | [19:47] |
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jcpham | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/butterfly/ | [19:48] |
jcpham | 2 more weeks! | [19:48] |
jcpham | Meanwhile, Butterfly Labs is nowhere near full production capacity. The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks. | [19:48] |
jcpham | In the meantime, if you have an questions about the Butterfly Labs machine, send us an email. | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | ahaha noway | [19:48] |
Cylta | jcpham: i think I heared it somewhere already... | [19:49] |
jcpham | wired says fuck you | [19:49] |
jcpham | if you think it's fake | [19:49] |
Technologov__ | BTCOxygen, and I have a fear about similar fate with Avalon ASICs | [19:49] |
Technologov__ | that's why I wanna wait until ppl will start receiving first batch units | [19:49] |
Technologov__ | + dev boards | [19:49] |
Technologov__ | I _do_ believe the ASICs are real | [19:49] |
Technologov__ | because of this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | so when it turens out to be actually fakwe | [19:49] |
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Technologov__ | But I highly doubt, that they will ship any. | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | i guess we all sue wired. this is good news. | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | conde nast actually has money, so... | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | i'm tickled pink over here. | [19:50] |
Cylta | first batch of avalon already reached their customers, no? | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | yea. | [19:50] |
Technologov__ | More probably they will keep to themselves. (so their accepted BTC might be a scam) | [19:50] |
jcpham | these guys at BFL are masters of hype | [19:51] |
jcpham | i give them credit where it is due | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham its literally not that hard to do. get a journo dood to post nonsense ? 100 bux or w/e | [19:51] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: There are 300 working units. | [19:51] |
jcpham | but i mean like the company name is unassuming and disarming even "butterfly" | [19:52] |
jcpham | wtf | [19:52] |
BTCOxygen | I know 5-6 people personally who recieved their Avalon. | [19:52] |
jcpham | it's all smoke and mirrors | [19:52] |
jcpham | but they have produced a product | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | no. Only 3 developers IMO. | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | 1st batch Avalons did *not* reach end-users (buyers). | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | jcpham, I doubt if Avalon are better | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | where? At their company ? | [19:52] |
jcpham | so i digress for now until it collapses | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | Show me 20 users, whom actually _received_ any ASICs. | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | I could not find not on forums and not in chat | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | But this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ | [19:52] |
Technologov__ | Clearly says that ASICs are for real. | [19:53] |
jcpham | i know of 3 actual avalons | [19:53] |
jcpham | and the owners and i've spoken with them | [19:53] |
jcpham | that's it | [19:53] |
jcpham | my world is small though | [19:53] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: I mean I know end-users. | [19:54] |
BTCOxygen | There are 5 Avalons mining at my pool tho. | [19:54] |
Technologov__ | but the risk-reward is potentially so high, that it is worth the (limited) risk. | [19:54] |
BTCOxygen | I think even imsaguy has an Avalon. | [19:54] |
Technologov__ | hmm, good to know. | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | BTCOxygen which pool is that again ? | [19:55] |
Technologov__ | BTCOxygen :) | [19:55] |
BTCOxygen | http://btcoxygen.com | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://blockchain.info/pools ? | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | you telling me 5 avalons doesn't get you in the list ? | [19:56] |
BTCOxygen | yes. | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | what's an avalon, 60gh ? | [19:56] |
jcpham | 300GH/s barely gets blocks | [19:57] |
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jcpham | need moar | [19:57] |
BTCOxygen | Also they don't list blocks properly. | [19:57] |
BTCOxygen | 500GH/s | [19:57] |
jcpham | how is 500 GH/s regular blocks? | [19:57] |
jcpham | daily? | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | mk, otherwise : Top Hashers 63gh/s | [19:57] |
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mircea_popescu | seems there's one avalon there, and it does 80% or so of the pool ? | [19:57] |
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BTCOxygen | check* | [19:58] |
jcpham | 100-400GH/s was struggling to keep up a few months back | [19:58] |
jcpham | from talking with pool ops | [19:58] |
jcpham | be interesting to see how it paces now | [19:58] |
Technologov__ | Now, the hash rate: | [19:59] |
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Technologov__ | http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate | [19:59] |
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Technologov__ | If this graph would be flat, I would buy a GPU, and not believe into ASIC lore. | [19:59] |
Technologov__ | But due to huge spike, I believe, that ASICs actually exist. | [20:00] |
BTCOxygen | mircea_popescu: I see 3 Avalons. | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | where ? | [20:00] |
BTCOxygen | 2 users pointing 1/3 Avalon. | [20:00] |
MJR_ | otc is too stressful | [20:01] |
KRS-1 | must be BFL | [20:01] |
error4733 | testing for 4 month | [20:01] |
KRS-1 | my friend has some of their fpga stuff | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | #1 1510 62186 | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | #2 1160 14981 | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | #3 1210 14272 | [20:01] |
KRS-1 | nice hardware | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | seems to me only 1st can be an avalon. right ? | [20:01] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: you here? | [20:02] |
jcpham | he has one BTCOxygen | [20:02] |
BTCOxygen | mircea_popescu: 1st is full Avalon. | [20:02] |
BTCOxygen | The other 2 are 1/3 Avalon. | [20:02] |
jcpham | imsogay owns an avalon | [20:02] |
Technologov__ | 1/3 avalon ? hmm... 20 GH/s ? | [20:03] |
BTCOxygen | Also there a many users posting about their Avalon on bitcointalk. | [20:03] |
Technologov__ | hmm... | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | 1/3 avalon ?! | [20:03] |
imsaguy | wut | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | who dioes this lol | [20:03] |
BTCOxygen | Its a cgminer feature. | [20:03] |
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imsaguy | load balancing of cgminer | [20:03] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: Yeah. | [20:04] |
imsaguy | why did you highlight me? | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | he would like to have your babies. | [20:05] |
BTCOxygen | imsaguy: How many Avalon users do you know? | [20:05] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2 = 4.8 BTC [+] | [20:05] |
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imsaguy | mircea_popescu: that is quite impossible | [20:07] |
imsaguy | BTCOxygen: a few. | [20:07] |
jurov | you have been accues of having onw yourself | [20:07] |
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jurov | *accused | [20:08] |
ezdiy | owning an asic is accusation now | [20:08] |
ezdiy | hmm | [20:08] |
jcpham | my bad | [20:08] |
jcpham | i tell lies on the internet for fun | [20:09] |
jcpham | no one owns asic | [20:09] |
Technologov__ | some ppl do. proof ? | [20:09] |
jcpham | facedesk. | [20:09] |
Technologov__ | jcpham, http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate | [20:09] |
jcpham | that's just a chart | [20:10] |
jcpham | those numbers could be made up | [20:10] |
BTCOxygen | Anyone who clains that there are no Avalons in the wild should read this whole thread. | [20:10] |
BTCOxygen | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.0 | [20:10] |
ezdiy | jurov: i think the rational explanation would be: give impression you want to get asics "out there so people dont lose trust" but in fact keep it private for as long as possible :) | [20:10] |
Technologov__ | going from 20 to 80 GH/s (in a MONTH !!!) can not be done via GPU. | [20:10] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: yes. | [20:10] |
jcpham | cpu mining botnet probably Technologov__ | [20:10] |
BTCOxygen | lol | [20:10] |
jcpham | ;) | [20:10] |
Technologov__ | jcpham, LOL ! How u tried mining on CPU ? | [20:10] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: rpcminr :P | [20:11] |
jcpham | nah pool won't accept a share for shit | [20:11] |
Technologov__ | it is 100 times slower than GPU and 100,000 times slower than ASIC | [20:11] |
jcpham | hurrrrrr | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | the conspiracy is strong in here. | [20:11] |
Technologov__ | CPU mining will cost you x100 more in electricity than Bitcoins you produce... | [20:11] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: +100 for having that knowledge. | [20:11] |
jcpham | i bet it's confusing talking to me. | [20:11] |
jcpham | i believe asic exists. yes. | [20:12] |
jurov | but really, i see it like either many asic users want to stay secret, or they are chinese not on btctalk | [20:12] |
ezdiy | seeing is believing | [20:12] |
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jurov | or manufacturers mine themselves instead | [20:12] |
jcpham | yeah the technology has made it like this | [20:12] |
Technologov__ | I would invest in ASIC company yes, but I dunno any. | [20:12] |
jcpham | a device that makes thousands of bucks a day potentially is a security risk | [20:13] |
ezdiy | jurov: even chinese guys reported selective vip treatment in regards to shipments from avalon | [20:13] |
Technologov__ | if BTCOxygen can find any, I might invest (@_@) | [20:13] |
jcpham | http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks | [20:14] |
ezdiy | 404 | [20:14] |
ezdiy | but title sounds interesting | [20:15] |
jcpham | damnit | [20:15] |
jcpham | http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks/story-fncynjr2-1226629878591 | [20:15] |
jcpham | i cut off the numbers | [20:15] |
error4733 | saw that before !! some ppl make key with picture on flicker !! | [20:15] |
jcpham | pretty dumb for a prison | [20:15] |
ezdiy | maybe it was recruitment practice of mossad | [20:16] |
jcpham | not sure a single master key falls under byzantine failover | [20:16] |
ezdiy | you know, sieve through thousands of retarded criminals to find one smart enough | [20:16] |
jcpham | perfect storm, a jeweler, a criminal, and a book | [20:17] |
BTCOxygen | Technologov__: Oh I found a very interesting thread for you. | [20:19] |
BTCOxygen | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0 | [20:19] |
error4733 | oz story lol | [20:19] |
BTCOxygen | Here one user posted pictures of his Avalon. | [20:20] |
BTCOxygen | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg1699573#msg1699573 | [20:20] |
BTCOxygen | Anyone who is not sure if Avalon will ship should read this thread from page 1 to 11. | [20:21] |
BTCOxygen | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0 | [20:21] |
* | Technologov__ is reading... | [20:22] |
Technologov__ | truffles, u can invest in Avalon here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0 | [20:22] |
Technologov__ | I did not had either until a week ago ^^ | [20:24] |
Technologov__ | I bought them via Western Union. | [20:24] |
Technologov__ | at #bitcoin-otc | [20:24] |
Technologov__ | because my $3000 Rig PC generates only 0.001 BTC per day. | [20:25] |
Technologov__ | (on dual GPUs) | [20:25] |
benkay | just two? | [20:25] |
benkay | ;) | [20:25] |
Technologov__ | yeah, only 2. | [20:26] |
Technologov__ | and what ? I worked at Cisco Systems. There are *much* more cables there. I assure you. | [20:26] |
Technologov__ | any large company has a data-center those days. | [20:27] |
benkay | ew gross owning your own data centers | [20:27] |
benkay | great way to keep your sysadmin costs high | [20:28] |
benkay | <-- cloud ops | [20:28] |
benkay | meh | [20:29] |
benkay | depends on how we code it | [20:29] |
benkay | if we write it to minimize entropy, that would be cool | [20:29] |
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jcpham | You rated user diatonic on Mon Mar 11 14:26:46 2013, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Attempted and pre-paid for 24 hour mining lease. Unforseeable circumstances changed our plans.. | [20:32] |
jcpham | wtf | [20:32] |
jcpham | my paste is just doing it's own thing today | [20:32] |
Scrat | ;;slap jcpham | [20:33] |
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jcpham | mmmmhmmmm' | [20:33] |
Technologov__ | truffles, what I'm trying to say, is that you can invest even without having Bitcoins. Just must buy them. | [20:34] |
Technologov__ | And as any start-up investments, it brings you a certain amount of risk-reward. | [20:34] |
Technologov__ | come on... it is all about mind-set. Don't needs to be rich ^^ | [20:35] |
Technologov__ | with what ? | [20:36] |
Technologov__ | That investment is a new company. | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [20:36] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.02000, Best ask: 137.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 137.02000, 24 hour volume: 255394.07450224, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 157.00000, 24 hour vwap: 135.59396 | [20:36] |
Technologov__ | that will purchase and run Avalons for you | [20:36] |
Technologov__ | and send you proceeds | [20:36] |
Technologov__ | so you don't need to waste time/lectricity/head-ache, customs bureaucracy and so forth | [20:37] |
Technologov__ | OK | [20:37] |
Technologov__ | But isn't bitcoin-assets all about investing ? | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | investing != throwing money. | [20:38] |
Technologov__ | about what ? | [20:38] |
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Technologov__ | mircea_popescu, no one is throwing money. Just taking risks. | [20:38] |
Technologov__ | which is not the same | [20:38] |
Cylta | mircea_popescu: is it illigal to buysell mpex accounts? | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | Cylta nope. | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | dubious from a security pov maybe | [20:39] |
jcpham | i love it when doms throw money at me | [20:40] |
Technologov__ | I can take risk, but I like to be paid for it. | [20:40] |
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Guest00001 | mp no way to change pgp key ? | [20:40] |
Guest00001 | if asked ? | [20:40] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-] | [20:42] |
jcpham | freak | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | well you can register a new one and push to it. | [20:42] |
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error4733 | just 30 btc | [20:44] |
error4733 | :) | [20:44] |
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benkay | truffles, how much does a seat on the NYSE cost? | [20:48] |
benkay | and truffles, how is that related to their operating costs? | [20:49] |
benkay | rhetorical questions. too much for you to afford, and it's not. | [20:49] |
benkay | they are different | [20:50] |
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benkay | you encrypt orders with gpg | [20:50] |
benkay | print them out | [20:50] |
benkay | fly them to romania on a carrier pigeon | [20:50] |
asciilifeform | benkay: may as well ask how the cost of a NYC taxi medallion relates to the cost of the bureaucrat's pen that signs the paperwork. | [20:51] |
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mircea_popescu | fucking unfair comparison of the century. i hate taxi medallions. | [20:52] |
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benkay | except that the bureaucrat doesn't own the medallion organization, the mob does | [20:53] |
ezdiy | truffles: vipcoin is confusing, but otherwise legit | [20:53] |
benkay | but i think we're making the same points. | [20:53] |
ezdiy | truffles: here is exact process how 30 bitcoins are turned into vipcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQBOw88ksXA | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | what's vipcoin even ?! | [20:53] |
benkay | and yet vipcoin doesn't break top page google | [20:53] |
Technologov__ | BTCOxygen, ping | [20:54] |
asciilifeform | IMHO taxi medallions are a fair comparison. They, just as the MPEx fee, exist to keep the riffraff out. | [20:55] |
ezdiy | truffles: seek 1:40 for teenage girl | [20:55] |
asciilifeform | Were it not for medallions, NYC would probably look like Shanghai (rickshaws, etc.) I'm fine with that, but the rulers of the place evidently aren't | [20:55] |
ezdiy | teenage is the important part | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform you're neglecting the entire geographical monopoly angle. | [20:56] |
asciilifeform | MP has said, in essence, that he doesn't want MPEx to become a Shanghai crawling with the equivalent of rickshaws. | [20:56] |
asciilifeform | If I understand correctly | [20:56] |
ezdiy | yet payola is the realm of criminal forums | [20:57] |
ezdiy | so which is it? | [20:57] |
ezdiy | :) | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i don't have a problem with rickshaws per se. | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | there's historically been small corps listed, it's not that. | [20:58] |
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ezdiy | well | [20:59] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: we were talking about the 30 BTC user account fee, right? rather than listings | [20:59] |
ezdiy | thats what vip is about | [20:59] |
ezdiy | teenage girls, database management and company lunches | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform there's easy access for someone even with 0.1 btc. there's pts, there's brokers. | [20:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4248 = 5.0976 BTC [+] | [21:00] |
ezdiy | truffles: no soup for you | [21:00] |
ezdiy | i think mircea_popescu plays the soupnazi part well | [21:00] |
benkay | no no no, the role of taxi medallions is to reduce the number of taxis on the street | [21:01] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: that's like saying that "eTrade" with its $x/trade fees is a perfectly good alternative to a seat on the NYSE | [21:01] |
mircea_popescu | well... would you say seat on nyse = london cab medallion ? | [21:01] |
mircea_popescu | ezdiy ty | [21:01] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: sure | [21:01] |
benkay | mircea_popescu would be only too happy to have more traders on his exchange, he just doesn't want to deal with the riffraff. he wants others to aggregate riffraff orders and place them on MPEx. | [21:01] |
benkay | at least I think that's what he wants. open to correction on that count. | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well then everything's everything and wtf. | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | benkay there was some pretty good discussion with pgp on this, lemme d ig | [21:02] |
benkay | thanks mircea_popescu, feel free to pm it over | [21:02] |
asciilifeform | benkay: riffraff interested in automated trading are more or less written out of the script. MP runs his own house how he likes, I'm fine with that. But why not call things by their real names. | [21:02] |
benkay | asciilifeform what's the real name, then? medallions are a competition inhibitor, the exchange seat fee is just an "are you serious" check | [21:03] |
benkay | it's not even that much money | [21:03] |
ezdiy | asciilifeform: real names are bad for pr | [21:04] |
orkaa | http://i.imgur.com/Haw7Qy4.jpg | [21:04] |
orkaa | haha | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [21:05] |
asciilifeform | benkay: the bureaucrats (in practice) own NYC, and charge whatever the hell they want for taxi licenses. a bar can charge for entrance. nothing wrong with that. what I'm unclear on is why the MP fee is a different kind of animal. | [21:05] |
ezdiy | orkaa: +1 for underage, -1 not naked | [21:05] |
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ezdiy | asciilifeform: thats how it works | [21:05] |
orkaa | i saw this on tv some time ago, it's real :) | [21:05] |
ezdiy | asciilifeform: in general its called vendor lock-in | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform is there a way i can run a cab in london just for a day ? | [21:06] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: I imagine you could buy a medallion and sell it the next day, if you wanted to | [21:06] |
asciilifeform | just like an MPEx account | [21:07] |
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mircea_popescu | can you actually sell those ? | [21:08] |
benkay | probably | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | maybe the disagreement is borne out of me not understanding taxi medallions too well. | [21:08] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: IDK about London, but in most places you can | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | afaik it's just this nonsense to keep people who would like to work off | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like a union | [21:08] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: If I recall, most NYC drivers take out monstrous loans to buy medallions. | [21:08] |
benkay | most don't even buy the medallions | [21:08] |
benkay | others do | [21:08] |
benkay | ibankers and whatnot | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | meh. | [21:09] |
ezdiy | why people who dont understand basic market forces (if you have little competition, it makes sense to introduce artificial scarcity) want to trade on mpex? | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | ezdiy that absolutely isn't the rationale. | [21:09] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: occam is cutting his veins though :) | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | i know. | [21:10] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: i'm not dismissing it, whatever the reason its totally legit | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | the problem with cheapo/clueless investors is that they follow trends | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | this induces huge volatility which then wrecks assets. | [21:10] |
asciilifeform | ezdiy: I'm not clamouring to buy an MPEx account for a penny, just objecting to the notion that the fee is somehow different from taxi medallions | [21:10] |
mircea_popescu | i still think it is. | [21:10] |
benkay | I agree. | [21:10] |
benkay | not all customers are good customers. | [21:10] |
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benkay | and when money is involved as a core part of the business, many of your customers will in fact be bad customers without quality control. | [21:11] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: you do that at the cost of huge spreads though | [21:11] |
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ezdiy | as long people are content with those, well why not | [21:11] |
ezdiy | your idea of rate limiting the market holds water | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | well the problem with the "as long as people are content" argument | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | is that it's how we ended up with shit on tv. | [21:12] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: How would you personally explain the apparent lack of competition to MPEx? Is it simply the fact that no one else has the "reputation capital" ? | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | people have this incredible ability to "be content" with anything. frog in boiling water experiment if you know it. | [21:12] |
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ezdiy | mircea_popescu: yup | [21:12] |
ezdiy | boil em slow :) | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform it's a complicated web. no one has the competence, or the capital, or the reputation, or the connections, etc etc | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | they just feed into each other. | [21:12] |
asciilifeform | truffles: I meant the banal fact that MPEx works as it says on the box, and none of the vaguely similar services proved to do the same | [21:13] |
jborkl | Mp, has a stellar reputation. Unless you beleive asshole trolls and other people that are poor | [21:13] |
mircea_popescu | i think people grossly misrepresent what all is involved. | [21:13] |
ezdiy | clouds can be cleared up only if youre open about it | [21:14] |
ezdiy | heck even bitcoinica eventually became opensource :) | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [21:15] |
ezdiy | so people are ok w/ bitfinex because its obvious what theyre dealing with | [21:15] |
ezdiy | black boxes give room to a lot of speculation | [21:16] |
asciilifeform | Ok, let's see if I understand: the 30 BTC is for keeping MPEx a market full of people who measure 1000 times "before cutting once." No trendoids, etc. Now let's say Warren Buffet (or somesuch) opens WBEx, charging 1 BTC. | [21:16] |
ezdiy | as well as affiliate marketing schemes for vipcoin | [21:16] |
asciilifeform | it fills up with trendoids | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform problem with your let's suppose is that it's nonsensical. | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | last thing he'd do is that. | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | he'd open a 1000 btc one first, he'd partner with me 2nd. | [21:17] |
asciilifeform | ok, someone else with a bag full of BTC and a resonably good meatspace reputation, then. | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | but do you understand your own example ? | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | buffy is famous for having told his bh specialist | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | "if the next trade happens a year or so from now i'll be very happy" | [21:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-] | [21:19] |
asciilifeform | what I'm rather hazy on is how well MPEx would hold up against a "good enough" clone that meets the basic criterion of "not being an outright scam" (AFAIK none of the MPEx competitors have met this standard) | [21:19] |
ezdiy | it holds pretty well | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform im not sure what the incentive is exactly. you'd finance a clone rather than buy shares because ... ? | [21:20] |
jborkl | Wait, I trust MP - so who is this you are proposing? Just some random asshole with a website? | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | s.dice competition never materialised EXACTLY because s.dice listed. | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | once that happened it's impossible to finance a clone anymore. | [21:20] |
asciilifeform | jborkl: no, not a random arse, someone with a good reputation, hypothetically | [21:20] |
ezdiy | people really underestimate network effects | [21:21] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+] | [21:21] |
jborkl | there is no one with enough sense and enough money currently | [21:21] |
ezdiy | sdice, mtgox and mpex are examples of such | [21:21] |
jborkl | strike one and two | [21:21] |
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mircea_popescu | so srsly asciilifeform, let's say your reputation is enoug, and you have 10k btc to burn. | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | you decide it has to burn in this space. | [21:21] |
asciilifeform | jborkl: true, just as there is no semiconductor plant owner with the good sense to drop some of his pocket change on building a million ASIC miners and running them in his own mansion. | [21:21] |
ezdiy | jborkl: competition eventually overcomes the network effect resistance | [21:21] |
ezdiy | jborkl: inb4 bitvegas ipo | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | a. you buy s.mpoe shares b. you try and make a competitor. | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | which is your pick ? | [21:22] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: By this logic Pepsi ought not to exist, they should just re-sell Coke? | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | they do. | [21:23] |
ezdiy | they do? :) | [21:23] |
jborkl | a shitty clone of it | [21:23] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188177.0 | [21:23] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: how do i buy cola in kfc :) | [21:23] |
ezdiy | what if bitvegas started kfc | [21:24] |
ezdiy | and bundled their cola with it? | [21:24] |
ezdiy | would it make sense to invest in mpex then? | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | im unsure wtf bitvegas is. | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | o the team fortress thing ? | [21:25] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: :) | [21:25] |
ezdiy | its easy to measure growth | [21:25] |
ezdiy | where it is stalled and where it is not | [21:25] |
jborkl | anyway, what time exactly do options expire MP? in UTC? | [21:25] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: there could be logical reasons for starting one's own "MPEx, with blackjack and hookers." Say I want to use evil altchains. And, AFAIK MPEx shares are non-voting, so it isn't that I could buy enough of them to make MP do this deed. | [21:25] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform now you're talking angles. | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | originally discussion was straight clone. | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | if you mean start a competitor with an angle, it all boils down to whether the angle a. actually helps you and b. is good enouigh to push you | [21:26] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: copycats work perfectly good | [21:26] |
ezdiy | be the underdog and wait for the uber dogs demise | [21:27] |
ezdiy | lets see ... gblse? | [21:27] |
ezdiy | :) | [21:27] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: ok, let's stick to clones. Picture Bill Gates, a hypothetical BGEx with a 5 BTC fee. | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | ezdiy again people underestimate what goes on in the background. | [21:27] |
ezdiy | truffles: not by market forces, but by something stupid | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform and he's doing this on pgp ? | [21:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7513 @ 0.00070108 = 5.2672 BTC [+] | [21:27] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: sure, I agree, this is a stretch of the imagination. but let's imagine. | [21:28] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: yes, pgp. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | ok this i wish to see. | [21:28] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: AFAIK you don't have a monopoly on PGP | [21:28] |
ezdiy | asciilifeform: you're wasting your time, btw | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | so bill gates is making a mpex clone complete with pgp and everything. | [21:28] |
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mircea_popescu | +1000 points for me for being so cool. will any of the big people switch to him ? maybe so. maybe not. | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | i can probably exit to jpm for a billion at that point anyway. | [21:29] |
ezdiy | mp stands, but might possibly fall, because mircea_popescu is uber consistent in everything | [21:29] |
ezdiy | which also means you cant convince him by make believe arguments | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | at which poin tyhe deal becomes jpmpex vs bgex | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | and i gues jpmpex wins | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | i won't be there to see it likely, but anyway. | [21:29] |
ezdiy | asciilifeform: the general term is jerk irl :) | [21:30] |
ezdiy | yep | [21:30] |
ezdiy | the bitch army is impressive | [21:30] |
ezdiy | :) | [21:30] |
asciilifeform | ezdiy: I think you misunderstand. I'm not trying to convince MP of anything in particular. Just playing out a thought experiment: what would happen if MPEx actually had competition. | [21:30] |
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ezdiy | jurov: ohai! | [21:30] |
kakobrekla | rpietila: "I am currently running a 1.5 Class Bitcoin Supernode, and having a hard time to report on all things. This is a beta, our organisation is not perfect. I am arranging the supernode summit in Porvoo, Finland. The place where I am currently staying is Hotel Kämp, the best in Helsinki. My room" | [21:31] |
ezdiy | truffles: rpietila took it from the other end | [21:31] |
ezdiy | mp first build something tangible, then the bitch army | [21:31] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: what on earth is a Bitcoin Supernode? | [21:31] |
kakobrekla | yes! | [21:31] |
ezdiy | rpietila is apparently starting with the bitch army and maybe turn out to be not elaborate troll and come up with something | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | ezdiy it's kinda funny to compare "pic of mp with people" vs "pic of foreveralone btctalk dud" | [21:32] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: indeed :) | [21:32] |
kakobrekla | rpietila had too much cocaine | [21:32] |
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ezdiy | so much shame goat burned the cover | [21:34] |
ezdiy | that thread was so full of gold | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | totally. | [21:34] |
mircea_popescu | goat gets confused in troll gold threads. | [21:34] |
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kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.0;all | [21:35] |
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ezdiy | still | [21:36] |
ezdiy | interesting phenomena | [21:36] |
ezdiy | bitch armies, whiteknighting and all | [21:36] |
ezdiy | because those are irrelevant | [21:36] |
kakobrekla | i quote | [21:36] |
kakobrekla | Think of this as a book, or at least as a quality blog, to be enjoyed with quality wine and cigars in candle light. | [21:36] |
ezdiy | important is only network effect | [21:36] |
kakobrekla | comedy central in that setting? | [21:36] |
ezdiy | take mtgox, fe, everyone agrees their stuff is sub-par | [21:37] |
ezdiy | no bitch army, everybody hates magicaltux's guts | [21:37] |
ezdiy | yet its the biggest | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla lol candlelight and screen. sounds legit | [21:37] |
ezdiy | kakobrekla: yup, thats how i understood it | [21:38] |
ezdiy | i mean, the guy clearly stated to be not taken seriously | [21:38] |
ezdiy | so hey | [21:38] |
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jcpham | On the same day that federal investigators pleaded with the public for photos and videos that would help them identify the Boston Marathon bombers, the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI released a memo stating the “discreet use of cameras or video recorders” could be interpreted as a sign that a terrorist act is being planned. | [21:38] |
ezdiy | and then gives free advice of mid-range silver vendor | [21:38] |
ezdiy | i'm ok with that | [21:38] |
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kakobrekla | oooo | [21:39] |
kakobrekla | http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/13549021_uu.jpg | [21:39] |
kakobrekla | this delivers | [21:39] |
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jcpham | silver stackin | [21:39] |
kakobrekla | imma gona print a shitload of qr codes | [21:39] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [21:39] |
kakobrekla | stick it allover me | [21:39] |
jcpham | i'll take pics of your qr codes and baby giraffe | [21:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4781 = 0.9562 BTC [+] | [21:40] |
jcpham | oppulence | [21:40] |
ezdiy | truffles: what do you mean? | [21:41] |
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ezdiy | no, still nothing | [21:42] |
ezdiy | truffles: world is full of hypocrisy | [21:43] |
ezdiy | well, there is that thing | [21:45] |
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ColdHardMetal | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApraDvGtZTsbdGxTZGxreXhHUTRCM0pmakNpU3NkQmc#gid=0 | [21:47] |
ezdiy | truffles: being a bitch means you strongly defend your cult figure while youre subject ot heir will | [21:47] |
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mircea_popescu | i thought it just meant being annoying. | [21:48] |
ezdiy | truffles: being polite just means not giving a crap about things you cant change | [21:48] |
ezdiy | for example, opionons | [21:48] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: from the pov of dictator, it is :) | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | lolwut | [21:48] |
ezdiy | subjects are always annyoing | [21:49] |
ezdiy | you know | [21:49] |
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ezdiy | they have their stupid feelings and such | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno what dictators you've been hanging out with... | [21:49] |
ezdiy | cognitive dissonance is to be cherished | [21:49] |
ezdiy | to manipulate | [21:49] |
ezdiy | but its uber annoying at the same time | [21:50] |
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ezdiy | truffles: i think mp is strongwilled enough to just feign ignore | [21:50] |
ezdiy | curiosity and strong will results just not responding :) | [21:51] |
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ezdiy | truffles: better come up with some plot | [21:53] |
ezdiy | to ignite the nuclear war again | [21:53] |
ezdiy | between soupnazi and kim jong un of finland | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | this is making so little sense... | [21:54] |
saulimus | why finland? | [21:54] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134491269729.jpg have some water buffalo. | [21:54] |
ezdiy | its the new bitcoin supernode | [21:54] |
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ezdiy | mircea_popescu: i'm yuzhe, btw | [21:56] |
kakobrekla | i wish reptil dude would come around | [21:56] |
ezdiy | "some douche", pfft | [21:56] |
ezdiy | tell her shes fugly | [21:56] |
ezdiy | kakobrekla: the circle would be complete! | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | man... i have no idea what's going on. | [21:56] |
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kakobrekla | mircea_popescu, truffles is speaking | [21:57] |
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mircea_popescu | so who's yuhzer | [21:57] |
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mircea_popescu | so i | [21:57] |
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SlipperySlope | mircea_popescu, can you say when the April MOPE statement will be published? | [21:58] |
ezdiy | mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aURG-o7O-I | [21:58] |
ezdiy | this is yuzhe :) | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | SlipperySlope yes, in a few hours | [21:58] |
SlipperySlope | many thanks! | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | usually within a little of the last friday of the month ending | [21:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-] | [22:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+] | [22:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.246999 BTC [+] | [22:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4649 = 6.0437 BTC [-] | [22:03] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.101736 = 0.6104 BTC [+] | [22:04] |
topace | incase anyone is curious, i solved the IP address leak from emails problem i was talking about yesterday | [22:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7899 BTC [+] | [22:06] |
topace | the soluttion, is, essentially to run your own mailserver, on a separate ip (that will be revealed publicly) and have it strip the appropriate headers out of the messages as they fly thorugh | [22:06] |
topace | i followed this post: http://www.stardothosting.com/blog/2010/07/remove-mail-headers-in-postfix-outgoing-mail/ | [22:06] |
topace | worked like a c harm | [22:06] |
topace | charm | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | sounds like a winner. | [22:07] |
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MJR_ | ugh, otc is just such a scam fest | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | kinda. | [22:09] |
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MJR_ | its not worth the hassle | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | i've not been there since | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | o hey. since last april. | [22:09] |
MJR_ | birthday cake! | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | 1 yr | [22:09] |
kakobrekla | 21:09.45 —ChanServ— Registered : Apr 10 19:16:21 2012 (1 year, 2 weeks, 1 day, 23:53:24 ago) | [22:10] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [22:10] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246999 = 2.494 BTC [+] | [22:14] |
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jcpham | http://i.imgur.com/c5q3yfc.jpg | [22:16] |
jcpham | LOOK AT MY JEFE | [22:16] |
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jcpham | he has the optional laser thermal vision | [22:17] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-] | [22:28] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1954004#msg1954004 | [22:33] |
kakobrekla | O_o | [22:33] |
kakobrekla | all the fun happens on forums :( | [22:34] |
MJR_ | the coolest guys in Bitcoin Universe | [22:36] |
jborkl | when we start talking about mB? | [22:37] |
MJR_ | i don't know | [22:37] |
MJR_ | so far he is the only one i've seen do that | [22:37] |
kakobrekla | thats in the other room #bitcoin-massets | [22:38] |
kakobrekla | or #mbitcoin-assets | [22:38] |
kakobrekla | whatever is it. | [22:38] |
jborkl | or we it is- MPEX membership 30 milliion billion | [22:38] |
KRS-1 | #bitcoin-anal | [22:38] |
kakobrekla | im reading reptilas posts and numbers but i still cant figure out is he rich or poor? | [22:39] |
KRS-1 | EL JEFE | [22:39] |
kakobrekla | numbers are big | [22:39] |
kakobrekla | but the units are kinda small | [22:39] |
kakobrekla | %confused% | [22:39] |
jborkl | too confusing for me, I think he has 2.4 Bitcoins | [22:39] |
jcpham | what is this thread | [22:39] |
jcpham | i'm readin kakobrekla | [22:39] |
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kakobrekla | hehe | [22:39] |
jcpham | i don't even | [22:39] |
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jcpham | HOLY SHIT that guys running a 1.5 Class Supernode! | [22:42] |
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jborkl | wtf does that even mean? | [22:42] |
jcpham | it's pretty badass | [22:43] |
jcpham | if you haven't been paying attention | [22:43] |
jborkl | I know what a class 1A Supernova is | [22:43] |
jcpham | i know you want to be better than him but you can't | [22:43] |
jborkl | but not a class 1.5 supernode | [22:43] |
jcpham | shrug | [22:44] |
jborkl | so is a class 1.2 supernode better or a class 1.7? | [22:44] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1911371#msg1911371 | [22:44] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm not sure if that helps explain or makes it worse | [22:45] |
kakobrekla | how did you not know this | [22:45] |
kakobrekla | are you completley uneducated? | [22:45] |
ThickAsThieves | my impression is the guy is a car salesman | [22:45] |
kakobrekla | its like.. basic stuff! | [22:45] |
jcpham | ahahaha | [22:45] |
jcpham | this is so good | [22:45] |
jcpham | where did you find this | [22:45] |
ThickAsThieves | he says all kindsa fancy things to impress idiots | [22:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00070108 = 6.4331 BTC [+] | [22:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10775 @ 0.00070158 = 7.5595 BTC [+] | [22:46] |
ThickAsThieves | in the hopes of selling them a lemon | [22:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7149 @ 0.00070497 = 5.0398 BTC [+] | [22:46] |
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jborkl | That made it worse, made no sense | [22:46] |
jborkl | lol | [22:46] |
jcpham | and he donated to the forum | [22:46] |
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jcpham | ! | [22:46] |
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jcpham | President etc. of Silvervault, Hopea.fi, EIH among others. | [22:47] |
jcpham | seriously "among others" is vain | [22:47] |
jcpham | i can pick apart a sentence | [22:47] |
jcpham | i like this guy | [22:47] |
jborkl | badge of scammer, donated to forum | [22:48] |
MJR_ | badge of scammer among others | [22:48] |
jborkl | Seeing $115 ever again seems unlikely to me. | [22:49] |
jcpham | could just be cultural differences | [22:49] |
jborkl | his quote | [22:49] |
lippoper | ;;bids 115 | [22:49] |
jborkl | it hit that yesterday | [22:49] |
gribble | There are currently 33575.454 bitcoins demanded at or over 115.0 USD, worth 4106373.85398 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds | [22:49] |
jborkl | lol | [22:49] |
jcpham | yeah we're one trade from $115 at all times | [22:49] |
lippoper | if you sell $4 million worht, it'll come up | [22:49] |
jcpham | one trade that sets off the rest of them | [22:50] |
lippoper | ;;market sell 33575 | [22:50] |
jcpham | then gox gets ddosed | [22:50] |
gribble | A market order to sell 33575 bitcoins right now would net 4106321.6274 USD and would take the last price down to 115.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 122.3030 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 42.8787 seconds | [22:50] |
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jcpham | then bitstamp closes | [22:50] |
jborkl | lets see if I have this correct | [22:50] |
jcpham | then bitinstant gets ddosd | [22:50] |
jcpham | easy $115 | [22:50] |
lippoper | then another exchange shuts down | [22:50] |
jcpham | that's more like $50 | [22:50] |
jborkl | sell a little at MTGOX, ddos MTGOX, then use the trollbox on btce | [22:50] |
jcpham | but whatever | [22:50] |
jborkl | $50 drop | [22:51] |
jcpham | yeah 6 of us can make 115 happen | [22:51] |
jcpham | if we put our heads together | [22:51] |
lippoper | you mean coins together | [22:51] |
jcpham | or that | [22:51] |
jcpham | he doesn't understand yet | [22:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4549 = 2.7294 BTC [-] | [22:52] |
jborkl | his class 1.5 superchoad does not rely on the network for price though.. | [22:53] |
kakobrekla | supertoad is disqualified. | [22:53] |
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kakobrekla | withdrawals depricated. | [22:53] |
jborkl | better upgrade to aa class 1.4 superchoad just to be sure | [22:54] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4499 = 1.3497 BTC [-] | [23:03] |
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jurov | am back, had another interesting btc-related discussion irl with a forex trader... so hard to explain how things work there | [23:18] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.247 = 2.494 BTC [+] | [23:18] |
jurov | hi ezdiy | [23:18] |
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jurov | he was like "you should haste, large players will come and make mp do their bidding" | [23:19] |
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jurov | when i explained my problems with mpex interface, why the development is so slow | [23:20] |
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jurov | btw, expect options on coinbr to be frozen on opex for a while | [23:21] |
ThickAsThieves | k | [23:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00070497 = 1.5516 BTC [+] | [23:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00299999 = 0.021 BTC [+] | [23:53] |
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kakobrekla | aww jurov you should send him to me | [23:56] |
jurov | i will. but he's also webdesigner, willing to help me | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | forex trader slash web designer ? | [23:58] |
mod6 | ok wtf: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/327879387292770305 | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | i got "sorry, this tweet is too retarded for you to read. twitter does not allow very retarded tweets be read." | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | should i worry ? | [23:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246 = 2.492 BTC [-] | [23:59] |
mod6 | Price pegs never work -- why is that not clear to people, especially Max!? | [23:59] |
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