Forum logs for 25 Jun 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20001187 = 1.0001 BTC [-] {4} | [01:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04265517 = 1.237 BTC [+] {2} | [01:08] |
FabianB | $traded | [01:08] |
empyex | FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR | [01:08] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.19804922 = 2.5746 BTC [-] {4} | [01:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 256 @ 0.195 = 49.92 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00077799 = 0.778 BTC [-] | [01:22] |
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mthreat | search.bitcoin-assets.com updated - changes: | [01:43] |
mthreat | - Now sorts by date by default (option to sort by relevance) | [01:43] |
mthreat | - Add JSON output for IRC bot integration | [01:44] |
mthreat | - Tried to improve line spacing | [01:44] |
mthreat | - Better error messages, instead of blank pages | [01:44] |
mthreat | - Better page |
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mthreat | - Fixed UTF-8 for accented/non-Latin characters | [01:44] |
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benkay | SHIP IT | [01:50] |
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kakobrekla | good stuff mthreat! | [01:50] |
mthreat | kakobrekla: add &output=json for json. I can change the JSON output if you like, for gribble (do you run gribble?) | [01:53] |
kakobrekla | no i dun run gribble, assbot will take care of this - but, my thought was just to make assbot build the url query for you on the chan, no json needed | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | like "blah!search blah" and it returns | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blah | [01:55] |
assbot | 68 results for 'blah' - #bitcoin-assets search | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | no? | [01:56] |
mthreat | cool | [01:56] |
kakobrekla | but aside that, i can make you ?json to parse the stuff from logs if you want | [01:56] |
kakobrekla | still daily , just w/o the html stuff | [01:57] |
mthreat | it's not really necessary.. the parsing is pretty easy using JSoup | [01:57] |
kakobrekla | as you wish | [01:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21987562 = 1.5391 BTC [+] {3} | [02:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.03847462 = 0.5386 BTC [-] | [02:28] |
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mircea_popescu | * Ignatius-otc (~root@gateway/tor-sasl/ignatius-otc) << what could possibly go wrong | [02:39] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [02:47] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [02:47] |
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mircea_popescu | Mats_cd03:mircea_popescu: and the devices in existence? what about them? << burn them. | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | help gdp | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | moiety: hmm docking... my eyes get wider every day in here.... :] <<< i wouldn't worry while it's just the eyes. | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c: ah, because it lies. this makes sense. << it flushes the 100 pre-generated addies. | [02:58] |
mircea_popescu | so in that sense. | [02:58] |
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mircea_popescu | cedivad: so, hashfast got 20 millions in and they were able to destroy all of that value. << listing what, a d. ? | [02:59] |
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mircea_popescu | but if it makes you feel any better, they were never populat here. not that ct ever was. | [03:00] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 99 @ 0.04203706 = 4.1617 BTC [-] {6} | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform pretty lulzy | [03:03] |
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mircea_popescu | cedivad: Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. << that'd be unlikely. depends a lot of the jurisdiction and everything, but in general speaking the manager can just say "we have no more money" and that's that. he doesn't have to prove how he spent it. you may prove he misspent it and then it could escalate to fraud, but in general, in a bankruptcy, a manager is not going t | [03:07] |
mircea_popescu | o have to prove shit. | [03:07] |
mike_c | knc, relatively speaking, is on the ball. last week they shipped (300 x 3) = 900 TH/s, and a similar amount over the next week. | [03:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00077799 = 11.5143 BTC [-] | [03:09] |
mike_c | in other news, over *twenty* petahashes have come online in the last week or so | [03:09] |
mike_c | what. the. fuck. | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | people realising they're getting left out. | [03:09] |
mike_c | where is it coming from?? | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | by mid summer every government with pretensions will be mining. | [03:10] |
mike_c | who else could it be. this is serious horsepower. | [03:10] |
mike_c | hey TheNewDeal. by the way. don't bet against difficulty. | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c people interested in mysteries will now go into the logs to see when i first made certain unsubstantiated claims and then apply engineering timeframes to the window ellapsed. | [03:11] |
mike_c | quite awhile ago. | [03:11] |
mike_c | plus, it's easy now! search.b-a ftw | [03:12] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, quite a while ago. enough to ship 3 generations of cardano :D | [03:12] |
mike_c | hehe | [03:12] |
TheNewDeal | mike_c why did this need to be repeated? | [03:13] |
TheNewDeal | I thought that you and BB were betting against, and I was for 14B | [03:13] |
mike_c | seemed relevant. not a dig. | [03:13] |
TheNewDeal | Trust me, I have learned my lessons | [03:14] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/931/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.82942216 BTC. Current weight: 16,720. | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust TheNewDeal | [03:15] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask TheNewDeal!465aebee@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.90.235.238. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user TheNewDeal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=TheNewDeal | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TheNewDeal | Rated since: Sun Apr 13 12:56:09 2014 | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | not trusting you! you've not learned your lessons! | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | ha-ha! | [03:16] |
TheNewDeal | I'm currently learning my lesson | [03:16] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [03:16] |
TheNewDeal | I'll get in your trust network sometime | [03:16] |
TheNewDeal | just need to find a trustworthy event | [03:16] |
TheNewDeal | ;;gettrust assbot bitcoinpete | [03:17] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: Fri Mar 28 09:14:47 2014 | [03:17] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/24/world-cup-meets-bitbet-court-of-appeals/ | [03:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00077486 = 8.6009 BTC [-] {2} | [03:26] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/24/world-cup-meets-bitbets-court-of-appeals/ | [03:28] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/937/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 39(Y):61(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.27207284 BTC. Current weight: 16,620. | [03:36] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.83257221 BTC. Current weight: 54,944. | [03:36] |
cazalla | bitcoinpete: fwiw, i was going to bet on the same one but didn't as i thought it was borderline and likely to be refunded | [03:38] |
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kakobrekla | look what you have done now mp | [03:38] |
mircea_popescu | myeah. | [03:40] |
mircea_popescu | dun worry, this is just to give them a false sense of security. | [03:40] |
mircea_popescu | we scam everyone later. | [03:41] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Portugal will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/932/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.63982192 BTC. Current weight: 16,591. | [03:42] |
kakobrekla | oh ok, good plan | [03:45] |
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TheNewDeal | what'd I miss?! | [03:53] |
TheNewDeal | oooh the World cup controversey | [03:54] |
TheNewDeal | who was the better with the idea to keep bets going until the last moment? | [03:54] |
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mircea_popescu | http://37.media.tumblr.com/a44db4db295f2f711f3d0a3f325bcd1a/tumblr_mwqi95H55y1s0tgwso1_1280.jpg her ? | [03:55] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 1.93 BTC for No on "South Korea will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage" http://bitbet.us/bet/937/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.20207284 BTC. Current weight: 16,528. | [03:55] |
TheNewDeal | ooooh getting me excited for my rock climbing trip next weekend | [03:56] |
TheNewDeal | I'll show her an expert crack climb | [03:56] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [03:56] |
mircea_popescu | so ripe for linguistic exploitation that | [03:57] |
cazalla | you're climbing a rock monyanna? | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | no, he's clinging to a crack | [03:57] |
mircea_popescu | the crack that separates limb from limb | [03:57] |
TheNewDeal | I'm rock climbing around 4th of July weekend. not next | [03:59] |
TheNewDeal | wups | [03:59] |
TheNewDeal | headed to land of smoker's paradise | [03:59] |
TheNewDeal | pretty disappointed that I wasn't the winner of the bitbet adjudicating record with my bitcon price above $525 in may bet. seems like there was a little bit of leniency with this sports bets with the date adjustments | [04:07] |
mircea_popescu | there was | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | whats an adjudication record ? | [04:10] |
TheNewDeal | in bitcoinpetes blog it looked like you said you or kako had never adjudicated on a bitbet | [04:11] |
cazalla | betting mid game of 3rd match is still a risk though if it's an hour until the block is confirmed, that's the other reason i avoid mid game bets | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla this is true | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | TheNewDeal well, it's the mod's job. they normally do a good job of it, but not always. | [04:13] |
TheNewDeal | my case was a little iffy regardless | [04:13] |
TheNewDeal | last minute bet on a price cross | [04:13] |
mircea_popescu | (previous case like that was hmmm | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | lemme dig for it | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/ | [04:15] |
assbot | The anatomy of a disaster pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | there, about a year ago | [04:15] |
TheNewDeal | damn | [04:17] |
TheNewDeal | should have made a bet that was "bitbet will allow another negative bet" | [04:17] |
* | Trix is now known as trixisowned | [04:17] |
TheNewDeal | latest urge to impulse bet is the FHM bet. Last year's sum was so high! | [04:19] |
TheNewDeal | well not super high, but the winners made like 3X payout. | [04:20] |
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cazalla | TheNewDeal: do you bet to have some fun with it type shit or are you the sorta guy that knows the bounce you get off different sort of wood on basketball courts? | [04:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19489 @ 0.00077654 = 15.134 BTC [+] {2} | [04:24] |
TheNewDeal | well I played basketball and up until 8th grade and wasn't good enough to make it on the freshman team | [04:24] |
TheNewDeal | no basketball analogy fails | [04:25] |
TheNewDeal | I'm the type of person that stays away from everything at the casino that designed to make you lose on purpose, and heads straight to the poker tables | [04:25] |
TheNewDeal | take said bet here | [04:26] |
TheNewDeal | http://bitbet.us/bet/727/block-315k-mined-on-or-before-july-28th/ | [04:26] |
assbot | BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 5 days | weight: 15`645 (100`000 to 5`000) | [04:26] |
TheNewDeal | I bet *very* late in the game | [04:26] |
TheNewDeal | but I knew what the return would be. I also looked at the return for people who might have a much larger BTC stake than myself | [04:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00077355 = 10.0562 BTC [-] {2} | [04:27] |
TheNewDeal | was quite sure that no larger bets would come on the same side. Made sure that the outcome was a rare event, and felt very confident in betting | [04:28] |
cazalla | what's your best bet? | [04:29] |
TheNewDeal | to date, will be 14B in may | [04:29] |
cazalla | this one paid ok considering i only bet chump change amounts http://bitbet.us/bet/832/difficulty-at-block-302-400-over-10-billion/ | [04:30] |
assbot | BitBet - Difficulty at block 302,400 over 10 billion :: 0.05 B (11%) on Yes, 0.43 B (89%) on No | closed 1 month 1 week ago | [04:30] |
TheNewDeal | urrr not may, but bastille day | [04:30] |
cazalla | shame more people didn't bet on that prop though | [04:30] |
TheNewDeal | shhhh | [04:30] |
TheNewDeal | that's me you're raping | [04:30] |
cazalla | orly? | [04:30] |
TheNewDeal | very poorly designed bet if I might add | [04:30] |
TheNewDeal | was my first approved | [04:31] |
cazalla | i'm hoping a win on the knc bet but expect to lose given criteria even though they've begun shipping | [04:31] |
TheNewDeal | well don't they also have to perform to spec? | [04:32] |
cazalla | yes that too | [04:32] |
TheNewDeal | best resolved bet to date was this I guess. http://bitbet.us/bet/800/bitcoin-price-above-525-before-may/#b27 12% return over a 24 hr period :D | [04:33] |
assbot | BitBet - Bitcoin price above $525 before May :: 10.29 B (87%) on Yes, 1.51 B (13%) on No | closed 2 months 1 week ago | [04:33] |
TheNewDeal | I guess it wasn't really that large though if you add in my late bet that was refunded as well | [04:34] |
kakobrekla | bitcoinpete did like 30% in less than an hour ? | [04:34] |
TheNewDeal | well thats pretty fucking fantastic if you ask me | [04:35] |
TheNewDeal | I'm trying to get away from the risky bets myself | [04:36] |
TheNewDeal | played too much with the price bets when I started and just ended up making little for risking lots | [04:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00077394 = 6.0367 BTC [+] | [04:37] |
TheNewDeal | ewww | [04:37] |
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TheNewDeal | On a slightly different topic. Was the Nanking massacre related to the Treaty of Versailles ? Was talking about the Nanking massacre just the other day at work with someone, he was talking about the Nazis being involved, and I didn't realize Germany had given Japan some land in China a couple decades before | [04:39] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat why does neither http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr.com nor http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tumblr match http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#731499 even though the former matches http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2014#713703 (and how come they don't both match that). | [04:45] |
assbot | 7 results for 'tumblr.com' - #bitcoin-assets search | [04:45] |
assbot | 44 results for 'tumblr' - #bitcoin-assets search | [04:45] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [04:45] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [04:45] |
mthreat | the former is not indexed yet | [04:47] |
mthreat | I indexed an hour or so ago | [04:48] |
[]bot | Bet created: "Berkshire Hathaway BRK-B to close at over $135 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/964/ | [04:49] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/what-do-you-have-for-breakfast/ | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat but if you look, plenty of similar links yest | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | i think there's some sort of funk in url tokenization maybe | [04:50] |
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asciilifeform | https://atc.waroflife.com << neato | [04:52] |
mthreat | ah yeah. "tumblr.com" matches 7 because those 7 have "/tumblr_xyz" in the url, which gets tokenized so it has the token "tumblr" | [04:52] |
assbot | War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! | [04:52] |
mthreat | ^ wait nevermind what i just said | [04:52] |
mike_c | what a title | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | yay | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | so yes dear investors, http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.WOL | [04:53] |
assbot | S.WOL last @0.00000000 | [04:53] |
mircea_popescu | won't last long. | [04:53] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: yeah it looks like url tokenization just isn't very smart | [04:54] |
asciilifeform | congrats mike_c | [04:54] |
mike_c | thanks! | [04:54] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat i suggest just break urls on all nonalphanum | [04:55] |
mthreat | mircea_popescu: best bet is probably use: tumblr* | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust mike_c | [04:55] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mike_c: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 23 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mike_c | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mike_c | Rated since: Sun Nov 24 21:18:22 2013 | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated mike_c | [04:55] |
gribble | You rated user mike_c on Tue May 27 19:08:51 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Model blogger, dev.. | [04:55] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate mike_c We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard on Bitcoin media. | [04:56] |
gribble | Error: "We're" is not a valid integer. | [04:56] |
kakobrekla | o nice, congrats to both | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate mike_c 3 We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard on Bitcoin media. | [04:56] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mike_c has changed from 3 to 3. | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate mike_c 3 We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard for Bitcoin reporting. | [04:56] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mike_c has changed from 3 to 3. | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | clearer. mazel tov | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | also, here's a chick having a fun. http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo9uzpIrRb1qmf4cto1_1280.jpg | [04:56] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c maybe add webirc to here on contact form ? | [05:03] |
mike_c | if channel so desires. didn't want to impose without asking. | [05:04] |
mike_c | s/desires/allows/ | [05:04] |
TheNewDeal | ooooh my this GoW looks interesting | [05:04] |
TheNewDeal | %ticker | [05:05] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 | [05:05] |
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mircea_popescu | well people can just pm you. with the voice rules, it';s unlikely anyone can bother anything | [05:05] |
mike_c | ok | [05:05] |
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TheNewDeal | who owns x-bt? | [05:11] |
mircea_popescu | Apocalyptic | [05:13] |
TheNewDeal | really liking this site | [05:16] |
mircea_popescu | should be fun to play. | [05:17] |
TheNewDeal | seems like a very advanced way to... lose money | [05:19] |
TheNewDeal | looking for previous games though, can't find them | [05:20] |
mike_c | there's free money in every GoW. | [05:20] |
TheNewDeal | Watch some of the old games to get a feel for things, and then dive in! | [05:20] |
TheNewDeal | can i get a linky? | [05:20] |
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mike_c | from home page, see 'finished' game on left | [05:20] |
mike_c | also sample game linked in help section | [05:21] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://www.kp.ru/ ahahah this still exists! | [05:21] |
assbot | KP.RU , , -, - // KP.RU | [05:21] |
mike_c | but i will link that line too. good feedback. | [05:21] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.kp.ru/daily/26247/3127963/ | [05:23] |
assbot | - // KP.RU | [05:23] |
TheNewDeal | should pay someone to put up some signs at MIT advertising this WoL | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | is that some sort of show trial ? | [05:25] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: not only! they have a net stream radio! | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | TheNewDeal indeed. | [05:25] |
mike_c | ;;calc 5 / [ticker --last] | [05:25] |
gribble | 0.00872585120679 | [05:25] |
mike_c | cheap advertising :) | [05:25] |
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TheNewDeal | what happens to GoW once 1000 blocks are through? Turns into a Mini Game? | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | so these kids had a sort of fight club ? | [05:27] |
mike_c | it's over, next game starts. | [05:27] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: says they plugged a journalist | [05:27] |
mike_c | easiest way to get into is to try it. ATC are cheap. | [05:28] |
BingoBoingo | %ticker | [05:28] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 | [05:28] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.22615217 = 8.3676 BTC [+] {16} | [05:28] |
BingoBoingo | %diff | [05:28] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 511511.43 in 1997 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 0.00 | [05:28] |
BingoBoingo | OMG No pool hoppers. | [05:28] |
mike_c | yet | [05:29] |
TheNewDeal | I'm not worried about the price of ATC, already checked up on that | [05:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2300909 = 2.531 BTC [+] {2} | [05:29] |
mike_c | not as cheap as doge, but, hey. | [05:29] |
TheNewDeal | I'm wondering if the Game of Life just restarts every "week", or if some other cellular automata game will replace it | [05:29] |
mike_c | Game of the Week restarts every 1000 blocks | [05:29] |
mike_c | home page on the left is a link to next week's game | [05:30] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.231 = 0.924 BTC [+] | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | [05:30] | |
mircea_popescu | icecream is a less advanced way to lose money. | [05:30] |
TheNewDeal | hahaha truth | [05:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00077359 = 12.5708 BTC [-] {3} | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | after all, you could just inject glucose | [05:31] |
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TheNewDeal | not seeing said link mike_c | [05:31] |
TheNewDeal | this is homepage, correct https://atc.waroflife.com/? | [05:31] |
assbot | War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death! | [05:32] |
mike_c | yeah. game 8 on left/top is last week's game. below that, game 10, is next week's game. | [05:32] |
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TheNewDeal | ahhh I gotcha | [05:33] |
mike_c | and by "week" i mean 1000 blocks. | [05:33] |
TheNewDeal | what I'm wondering is this. How many 1000 block games will be played? | [05:33] |
mike_c | hopefully infinite. | [05:33] |
mike_c | make sense at all? every 1000 blocks a new game starts? | [05:34] |
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TheNewDeal | yes | [05:34] |
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TheNewDeal | just confused me with the name Game of Week, thought there might be a totally different game next week | [05:35] |
TheNewDeal | and GoL would turn into a minigame or something | [05:35] |
mike_c | it is not as simple as dice, but hopefully some find it fun. | [05:36] |
TheNewDeal | most definitely. I think it will appeal to the btc crowd | [05:36] |
mircea_popescu | !up Illumination | [05:36] |
-assbot- | You voiced Illumination for 30 minutes. | [05:36] |
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TheNewDeal | gotta head to bed though | [05:37] |
csshih | oops | [05:37] |
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mike_c | thanks for checking it out. | [05:37] |
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TomServo | Looks pretty cool guys, nice work. | [05:37] |
TomServo | Is there a target date for the grand opening? | [05:38] |
BingoBoingo | Nice work mike_c | [05:41] |
mike_c | thanks bingo. | [05:42] |
mike_c | TomServo: not yet | [05:42] |
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Vexual | neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning | [05:44] |
mike_c | live on the edge | [05:44] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23 = 0.69 BTC [-] | [05:49] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [06:02] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 571.52, vol: 6803.07747613 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 565.76, vol: 3725.13007 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 575.6, vol: 6506.2024117 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 580.0, vol: 48.925372 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 585.461604, vol: 2031.13920000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 586.15372, vol: 2.82964216 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 571.326, vol: 35.10755019 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) | [06:02] |
BingoBoingo | --more | [06:03] |
thestringpuller | ;;more | [06:03] |
gribble | Error: That's all, there is no more. | [06:03] |
thestringpuller | lol | [06:03] |
BingoBoingo | ;;more | [06:04] |
gribble | 573.287682316 | [06:04] |
BingoBoingo | ;;lasers | [06:05] |
gribble | ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* | [06:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13044 @ 0.00077589 = 10.1207 BTC [+] | [06:07] |
TomServo | ;;bc,stats | [06:08] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 307671 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 776 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16578107258.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.14213 | [06:08] |
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mircea_popescu | Vexual> neato, I like how there isn't an eplilepsy warning << lmao | [06:38] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c i tell you it needs calmer colors | [06:38] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo shouldn't be long now. | [06:38] |
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mike_c | it's the royal color! | [06:39] |
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bitcoinpete | howdy | [06:42] |
peterl | hi ya'all | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ola | [06:42] |
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Mats_cd03 | TheNewDeal: no. nanking was p much like any other like pillaging, just with better records | [06:44] |
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bitcoinpete | kakobrekla: bitcoinpete did like 30% in less than an hour ? << take that buffett ;) | [06:46] |
peterl | war is hell | [06:46] |
peterl | not that I would know, I try to avoid it | [06:46] |
bitcoinpete | i've been getting twitter spammed all day over btcjam doing what btcjam does | [06:47] |
bitcoinpete | some dood had loans made under his account without his authorization | [06:47] |
bitcoinpete | nor without any authorization being required | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | got gpg, why use it. | [06:48] |
bitcoinpete | not that btcjam had any reputation to speak of here, just that the word is getting out | [06:48] |
bitcoinpete | mircea_popescu: gp…. g? | [06:48] |
bitcoinpete | also: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/481610517187153920 | [06:49] |
assbot | What exactly is Titcoin? Find out in today's Money & Tech News Update | [06:49] |
bitcoinpete | teaching dem about buttcoins | [06:49] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [06:50] |
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bitcoinpete | titcoins thinks there's a market for butts AND tits | [06:50] |
bitcoinpete | i'm skeptical | [06:50] |
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mircea_popescu | i need someone to herd the naked girls for bitcoin subreddit for me | [06:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.046 = 0.644 BTC [+] | [06:51] |
BingoBoingo | mike_c: Keep the colors! | [06:52] |
bitcoinpete | fluffypony: likes reddit. maybe he'll volunteer to coral 'em | [06:52] |
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bitcoinpete | s/coral/corral | [06:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.04734838 = 1.4678 BTC [+] {2} | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | seems to busy with his scamcoin w/e that is | [06:52] |
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bitcoinpete | horizontalcoin iirc | [06:53] |
mircea_popescu | - http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com 57 - http://feedly.com/index.html 42 | [06:57] |
mircea_popescu | there you go pankkake, you beat feedly | [06:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00077639 = 6.2111 BTC [+] {2} | [07:00] |
xmj | fluffypony: are you on skype? | [07:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00077664 = 15.0668 BTC [+] | [07:33] |
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wywialm | good morning | [07:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00077664 = 5.6695 BTC [+] | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | heya | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | long time no see | [07:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00077515 = 17.1308 BTC [-] {2} | [07:59] |
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BingoBoingo | %ticker | [08:06] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 222 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 177k High: 277 Low: 199 VWAP: 243 | [08:06] |
BingoBoingo | %book | [08:06] |
atcbot | 65k@280 40k@278 25k@222 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 | [08:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21545982 = 1.2928 BTC [-] {3} | [08:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00077664 = 14.0184 BTC [+] | [08:24] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/f-derp-short-risky-bitcoin-startups/2014/06/25 | [08:35] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-results-of-the-world-cup-experiment/ | [08:42] |
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benkay | !up Vexual | [08:58] |
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bitcoinpete | so the world cup experiment was fruitful, if costly | [09:01] |
bitcoinpete | i like the 2btc min bet | [09:01] |
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bitcoinpete | that'd definitely cut down on the spammy number of the wc/other sport bets | [09:02] |
bitcoinpete | the problem with the wc is simply the number of teams | [09:02] |
benkay | mircea_popescu, mike_c: cool stuff | [09:02] |
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bitcoinpete | if mp had created a rolland garros bet for every single player + halep it would've been the same problem | [09:03] |
bitcoinpete | having bets on "advancing" vs winning isn't ideal | [09:03] |
bitcoinpete | too many advancers | [09:03] |
bitcoinpete | so nao: barriers to entry | [09:04] |
bitcoinpete | as ever, a wise move | [09:04] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/dogecoin-creator-jackson-palmer-leave-dogecoin-community-calls-cult-like/2014/06/24 | [09:04] |
assbot | Dogecoin Creator Jackson Palmer To Leave Dogecoin Community; Calls it "Cult-Like" | [09:04] |
bitcoinpete | lol BingoBoingo just saw that too | [09:04] |
bitcoinpete | da redditz attacked me! | [09:04] |
bitcoinpete | ok tired eyes, time for bed... | [09:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00077568 = 5.5849 BTC [-] {2} | [09:11] |
punkman | http://en.chessbase.com/post/ecu-dre-code-for-che-tournaments | [09:18] |
assbot | ECU Dress Code for chess tournaments | Chess News | [09:18] |
punkman | "regarding décolletés (in the US "cleavage"): "the second from the top button may be opened." And skirts may be no shorter than 5-10 cm above the knees" | [09:19] |
punkman | why can't we have sexy chess | [09:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00077638 = 10.0541 BTC [+] {2} | [09:21] |
BingoBoingo | Next Inputs.io??? http://www.coindesk.com/hive-adds-litecoin-support-new-web-wallet/ | [09:32] |
assbot | Hive Adds Litecoin Support With New Web Wallet | [09:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0007783 = 10.8573 BTC [+] {2} | [09:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00077906 = 14.88 BTC [+] | [09:47] |
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* | punkman can't wait for MP's Naked Chess Tournament | [09:53] |
punkman | full of brazilian/argentinian booty | [09:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:54] |
punkman | BingoBoingo: OMG No pool hoppers. << actually there's an extra TH on coinminer | [09:57] |
BingoBoingo | %diff | [09:57] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 210330.52 in 1977 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -58.88 | [09:57] |
BingoBoingo | OMG they left already!!! | [09:57] |
BingoBoingo | %ticker | [09:57] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 222 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 176k High: 277 Low: 199 VWAP: 243 | [09:57] |
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BingoBoingo | %book | [10:01] |
atcbot | 65k@280 40k@278 25k@222 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 | [10:01] |
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benkay | mircea_popescu: mebbe later - in the meantime i'm enjoying the luxury of going to sleep at midnightish | [10:04] |
mircea_popescu | hehe | [10:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00077906 = 8.1801 BTC [+] | [10:13] |
mircea_popescu | !up [Jan] | [10:13] |
-assbot- | You voiced [Jan] for 30 minutes. | [10:13] |
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benkay | apropos of the bash bombs discussed earlier, my favorite part about computanium is how ls'ing in a directory with lots of things will cripple a server | [10:14] |
benkay | can* | [10:14] |
mircea_popescu | what sort of lots ? | [10:14] |
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mircea_popescu | unless the drive is shitty and unraided that shouldn't really happen. besides, you shouldn't have the kernel volume shared with userspace anyway. | [10:15] |
extra | http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker | [10:18] |
extra | LTC confirmed | [10:18] |
benkay | 40k iirc, and it was on a shitty cloud drive to boot. | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu | ahahha what | [10:18] |
mircea_popescu | $depth s.wol | [10:18] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Bids: 20000 @ 0.00004100 100000 @ 0.00004000 500000 @ 0.00003500 | [10:18] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Asks: | [10:18] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: too many inodes makes ls quite slow | [10:19] |
mircea_popescu | look at that mike : it's oversold. | [10:19] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman with or w/o writeback mount ? | [10:21] |
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punkman | dunno what that is, but it's reading all the entries in a dir that's slow | [10:23] |
mircea_popescu | (not that you couldn't call getdents by yourself bypassing the 16kb buffer or whatever fucktarded limit readdir does) | [10:23] |
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mircea_popescu | mkay, in sum : this problem is an artefact of using butter knife to mix concrete rather than any problem of the concrete. | [10:23] |
punkman | fun tip: if you have a shitload of octopus, cement mixer is a good way to tenderize them | [10:27] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [10:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00077463 = 13.7884 BTC [-] {2} | [10:36] |
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xmj | Hi. | [10:37] |
xmj | punkman: how many kg are we talking? | [10:37] |
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punkman | xmj, dunno maybe 10-20kg in small portable mixer, more if you get the truck version :P | [10:41] |
xmj | hahaha | [10:41] |
xmj | I wonder, how do you heat the truck version. | [10:42] |
xmj | Flamethrower, because awesome? | [10:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33694 @ 0.00078134 = 26.3265 BTC [+] {3} | [10:45] |
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mircea_popescu | http://pastebin.com/xNLprWFE for the lulz | [19:04] |
assbot | Selina selinamartindale@gmail.com http://www.thinkkeno.net/%E7%8F%BE%E7%89%A9% - Pastebin.com | [19:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04432367 = 0.8421 BTC [-] {5} | [19:04] |
ThickAsThieves | heh | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | alright so basically i need to add all the DNS records that were in the host before, to the changed to nameserver, right? | [19:05] |
ThickAsThieves | seeds.therealaltcoin.org seems to be working for Seattle | [19:08] |
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mircea_popescu | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'seeds.therealaltcoin.org' | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | prolly in an hour or so | [19:09] |
punkman | ThickAsThieves: do you have a VPS or shared with NC hosting? | [19:10] |
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ThickAsThieves | i think i fixed it all | [19:14] |
ThickAsThieves | the only xfactor is the A records all didnt like a "." at the end of the IP entry, whereas seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS record accepted it | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | the site loads again now too | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | now ait | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | i do not have a VPS | [19:16] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.therealaltcoin.org/ works | [19:16] |
punkman | I don't seen any entries for seeds subdomain | [19:16] |
assbot | 400 Bad Request | [19:16] |
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BingoBoingo | %diff | [19:18] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 324223.45 in 1913 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -36.61 | [19:18] |
punkman | %tslb | [19:18] |
atcbot | 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!) | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 266666*.9 | [19:20] |
gribble | 239999.4 | [19:20] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04228851 = 2.495 BTC [-] {8} | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 58333 *.9 | [19:21] |
gribble | 52499.7 | [19:21] |
ThickAsThieves | it's odd that the www. works but not without it, being that www. is the CNAME | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | you prolly don't have a * record | [19:22] |
ThickAsThieves | the @ one? | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | no, the * one | [19:22] |
ThickAsThieves | hmm | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google dns catchall | [19:22] |
gribble | Wildcard DNS record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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punkman | you need @ not * | [19:23] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: both work from here | [19:23] |
davout | yeah, you don't need a * record for the root domain | [19:23] |
ThickAsThieves | should i remove the * record then? | [19:24] |
davout | and if www is CNAME'd to the root you don't need it at all | [19:24] |
davout | i don't really like to keep those around unless i need them because i want to have a domain-dependent behaviour | [19:24] |
davout | *subdomain dependent behaviour | [19:25] |
ThickAsThieves | www is indeed cname'd to root, but @ is pointing to the server IP | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | davout well sure | [19:25] |
ThickAsThieves | which i assume is correct, only the root domain doesnt load, for me at least | [19:25] |
ThickAsThieves | www. does load though | [19:25] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: try from your mobile phone, disconnected form wifi | [19:25] |
davout | dns caching is a bitch | [19:26] |
ThickAsThieves | lol davout, incidentally, Paris is the only IP that hasnt updated yet | [19:26] |
ThickAsThieves | so yours might break soon too | [19:26] |
ThickAsThieves | https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/therealaltcoin.org | [19:26] |
davout | "Paris is the only IP that hasnt updated yet" <<< does not compute | [19:26] |
ThickAsThieves | look at link above | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | til .mp is an actual tld | [19:27] |
davout | sfr is one of many providers | [19:27] |
ThickAsThieves | ok it loads fine in Tor | [19:27] |
davout | there's no such thing as "the dns for paris" :D | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | davout no dude he knows remotely the situation of dns in paris | [19:27] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | dub's a noob :D | [19:27] |
ThickAsThieves | well it was an inconvenient coincidence | [19:28] |
ThickAsThieves | considering the only french guy could see it | [19:28] |
davout | golden rule when fucking with dns : "test after changing the configuration, never before, or you'll be stuck with shit being cached" | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu | "The get.mp site is a bit defunct as the certificate is expired." | [19:28] |
ThickAsThieves | alls well | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu | the steaks in my fridge are a bit defunct too! | [19:28] |
ThickAsThieves | now i just need confirmation the seeds.therealaltcoin.org is doing what it's supposed to | [19:29] |
mircea_popescu | davout or just floosh a lot | [19:29] |
ThickAsThieves | so can i have an A record fors seeds. too? | [19:30] |
davout | i just check the configs with a "dig A domain.tld @ns.otherdomain.tld" | [19:30] |
ThickAsThieves | so it doesnt timeout when loaded in web browser? | [19:30] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe pointing to text file of current seeds? | [19:31] |
ThickAsThieves | or is that just pointless | [19:31] |
punkman | seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 40000 IN NS 54.197.241.190. | [19:31] |
punkman | seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 60 IN A 54.197.241.190 | [19:31] |
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ThickAsThieves | i dunno what that means | [19:31] |
ThickAsThieves | alls well? | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 58366 | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | lol win | [19:32] |
punkman | I did dig -t ANY seeds.therealaltcoin.org @54.197.241.190 | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | mine's ambigous | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 40000 IN NS 54.197.241.190. | [19:33] |
mircea_popescu | seeds.therealaltcoin.org. 60 IN A 122.49.204.147 | [19:33] |
punkman | right, that's good | [19:33] |
davout | seeds.therealaltcoin.org doesn't seem to actually have any name servers defined | [19:33] |
davout | therealaltcoin.org does | [19:34] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: what the fuck have you done? | [19:34] |
punkman | davout, dig -t ANY seeds.therealaltcoin.org @dns1.registrar-servers.com | [19:34] |
ThickAsThieves | seeds. has an NS record with value= 54.197.241.190 | [19:34] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: i assert the contrary | [19:35] |
davout | punkman: if you force the nameserver you're cheating! | [19:35] |
ThickAsThieves | well being that i'm minimally experience with this stuff, i dont know what youre suggesting i do | [19:35] |
davout | are you hosting the NS server yourself ? | [19:36] |
ThickAsThieves | it's namecheap's | [19:36] |
davout | i'd try to see why you're getting a servfail | [19:36] |
ThickAsThieves | but i can add any record | [19:36] |
davout | hmm | [19:36] |
thestringpuller | ;;seen BingoBoingo | [19:37] |
gribble | BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 minutes and 41 seconds ago: |
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ThickAsThieves | i'll ss my current records | [19:37] |
chetty | Supreme Court bans warrantless cell phone searches | [19:37] |
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davout | ThickAsThieves: it's very weird that your subdomain doesn't seem to have an associated nameserver when asking without asking dns1.registrar-servers.com | [19:39] |
ThickAsThieves | http://imgur.com/0wLdYIn | [19:39] |
assbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [19:39] |
ThickAsThieves | that should help | [19:39] |
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davout | ThickAsThieves: why do you have the last line ? | [19:41] |
davout | why do you need to associate a separate nameserver to the seeds subdomain ? | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | [19:41] | |
mircea_popescu | usg will just redefine "cellphones" as laptops or w/e | [19:41] |
ThickAsThieves | cuz mike_c told me to, cuz that IP is his and a nameserver | [19:41] |
davout | didn't you mean to have an A record instead ? | [19:42] |
Apocalyptic | anyway NSA isn't bound by law, is it ? | [19:42] |
ThickAsThieves | i only menat to do as told | [19:42] |
ThickAsThieves | should it be A instead? | [19:42] |
punkman | mike's nameserver spits out node IPs as A records | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | this should be interesting, how tat's soup comes out with al lthe asset cooks | [19:42] |
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ThickAsThieves | i dont have a problem hosting the seeds myself, if handheld through it | [19:43] |
davout | punkman: so the use case is that they're going to be multiple seeds, managed by mike_c like s1.seeds.therealtcoin.org ? | [19:44] |
ThickAsThieves | no it's just a list i think | [19:44] |
ThickAsThieves | i think the plan is to embed this subdomain into the altcoin software, so newbs can get the chain easier | [19:44] |
assbot | dns - Can the value for a NS record be an IP address? - Server Fault | [19:44] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: so when hitting seeds.therealaltcoins.org, a single server will spit out a list of seeds, in some format for use by the atc client ? | [19:45] |
ThickAsThieves | i think so | [19:45] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm speaking for mike_c and pankkake i think | [19:45] |
ThickAsThieves | and i'm not so sure i'm qualified | [19:45] |
pankkake | yes, that is is | [19:45] |
davout | well, then you don't need a NS record | [19:45] |
davout | you need a plain old A record for seeds that points to the IP of the server managing the seeds list | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | dude it's like being on mdma over here | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | i derp about my business, suddenly there's this weird booming echo multivoice | [19:46] |
ThickAsThieves | cool i'll fix it | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | a second later it comes through they're screaming "goal!1" but that second... | [19:46] |
pankkake | it's wrong! | [19:46] |
pankkake | the "format" for the altcoin client is a DNS reply | [19:47] |
ThickAsThieves | pankkake you talking to me or mp? | [19:47] |
davout | mircea_popescu: oh fuck, i'm supporting nigeria | [19:47] |
ThickAsThieves | ah | [19:47] |
pankkake | to davout | [19:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i could not have guessed that DNS would be an interpretive thing... | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves he was confirming it for davout | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | bah | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha the interpretive dns dance! round robbin! the nut cracker! | [19:47] |
davout | pankkake: whaddaya mean | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | this should totally be a musical | [19:48] |
ThickAsThieves | how about i just put BOTH records | [19:48] |
davout | i feel like i'm going down into a confusion vortex | [19:48] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves just integrate namecoin. now you'll have two problems! | [19:48] |
ThickAsThieves | more shares is better! | [19:48] |
BingoBoingo | !b 9 | [19:48] |
assbot | Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1VE6PXR.txt ) | [19:48] |
pankkake | seeds. has to be served by the self updating dns server | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | [19:49] | |
pankkake | well despite knowning the thing I have a hard time following the discussion | [19:49] |
ThickAsThieves | [19:49] | |
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mircea_popescu | "you have two problems. the government takes one and gives you a cow. now you have three problems." | [19:49] |
davout | pankkake: you want to resolve subdomains of seeds. ? | [19:50] |
punkman | davout, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723462 | [19:50] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | punkman re the "no shorter than 5-10 cm above the knee" : does thaat resolve to -5 which is then 5 below the knee ? | [19:51] |
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mircea_popescu | or does it just resolve to "depending on how lanky you are, one inch over your cunt" | [19:51] |
pankkake | seeds. is also resolved by the NS of seeds. | [19:51] |
davout | punkman: a i see, you want a dynamic A record for seeds | [19:51] |
punkman | yeah and other cool features, https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder | [19:52] |
assbot | sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub | [19:52] |
ThickAsThieves | ok well at the moment the screenshot is what it is and will remain so until explicitly instructed | [19:52] |
punkman | ThickAsThieves: maybe change it to seeds NS ns1.therealtaltcoin.org, then go to the other page and point ns1. to mike's IP | [19:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.042 = 1.386 BTC [+] | [19:53] |
mircea_popescu | this didn't work so well did it. | [19:53] |
ThickAsThieves | i wil not accept a maybe | [19:54] |
ThickAsThieves | explicit instructions only | [19:54] |
davout | punkman pankkake if what's needed is load balancing, or failover, multiple A records for the same domain would do just fine | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | sensible. | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | davout: what's currently the best non-scam mining rig one can buy these days ? << prolly the 3th knc recently delivered | [19:54] |
pankkake | yes, if you have known nodes running… and I don't believe it is the case | [19:54] |
punkman | ThickAsThieves: well according to dignork's link, having an IP in NS record is not so valid | [19:55] |
ThickAsThieves | btw, i do have some .bit domains registered, including bitcoin-assets and therealaltcoin | [19:55] |
punkman | but I got no fucking clue to be honest | [19:55] |
davout | mircea_popescu: yeah, i didn't state the question very explicitly, but i was wondering about the price to pay to bring an extra PH/s to the network, something around 1.25mn is what i found | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | it seems to be about 1 dollar per gh roughly. | [19:55] |
mircea_popescu | so 1mn per ph, net of any logistics | [19:56] |
davout | and electricity | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | 1.25 prolly reasonable yeah. electricity is logistics :D | [19:56] |
davout | i guess thats included in "logistics" | [19:56] |
ThickAsThieves | mike_c see above discussion and lemme know if you need anything changed anytime | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | assbot: [NEW]Gambling invest!!!ROI 20 - 200% << lmao | [19:57] |
davout | to be read as -200% | [19:58] |
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davout | nah, actually i'm an idiot, that's not possible | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | IT SHOULD BE | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: i wonder how long before 1PH pays for itself in coin << hash doesn;'t really need to pay for itself in coin tho. | [19:59] |
punkman | I can't ping seeds.therealaltcoin.org, does it resolve for someone? | [19:59] |
jurov | not if one pays another 100% for filing a debt claim | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | jurov has it | [19:59] |
davout | punkman: lol | [19:59] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman unknown host. | [20:00] |
davout | jurov: as in "this guy owes me 100 BTC, here's 100 BTC to get it from him" ? | [20:00] |
mike_c | ugh. hopefully you didn't "fix" it, i think you had it :) | [20:00] |
mike_c | davout: I am running a nameserver for seeds.atc | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: maybe thatll be on his grave << what should be on his grave is "I thought I knew shit, because I used to be a shithead. Now I know better, but what's the use, I'm already shitlisted." | [20:01] |
mike_c | clients will query it to find active ATC nodes | [20:01] |
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mike_c | in order for clients to query it, the root domain needs to list my server as a nameserver for seeds.atc | [20:01] |
mike_c | clear as mud? | [20:01] |
punkman | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#732075 | [20:02] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [20:02] |
mike_c | punkman: no reason you should be able to ping it! | [20:02] |
punkman | no? | [20:02] |
Apocalyptic | [20:02] | |
ThickAsThieves | what if i want http://seeds. to point a picture of apple seeds? what record for that? | [20:02] |
Apocalyptic | I thought it was meant to resolve to IP of nodes | [20:02] |
mike_c | Apocalyptic: it does resolve to IP of nodes. but how does your computer know who to ask to resolve it. | [20:03] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: A record for that, on mike_c's server | [20:03] |
ThickAsThieves | nuts | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | !t m s.wol | [20:03] |
assbot | The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | srsly ? | [20:03] |
davout | mike_c: so you're going to resolve s1.seeds.the...org etc ? | [20:03] |
mike_c | no, no s1.seeds | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | !t m d.bpay | [20:04] |
assbot | [MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 7D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 30D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC) | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [20:04] |
ThickAsThieves | mp how come your s.wol is 35 instead of 30, just to fuck with people? | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves someone bid | [20:04] |
davout | mike_c: so what fqdns is your server going to resolve ? | [20:04] |
ThickAsThieves | ? i dont see any Last Price | [20:04] |
mike_c | seeds.therealaltcoin.org | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | and speaking of which, now that mike_c is up he's prolly going to put bitcoin in once he's done destroying altcoin dns | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | after which those shares are prolly selling | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | so get in if you want to get in. | [20:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0008285 = 5.7995 BTC [+] | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves there isn't a last price yet. | [20:05] |
mike_c | https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder/blob/master/README | [20:06] |
assbot | bitcoin-seeder/README at master sipa/bitcoin-seeder GitHub | [20:06] |
davout | mike_c: dig A seeds.therealtcoin.org @54.197.241.190 | [20:06] |
davout | ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 49439 | [20:06] |
mike_c | dig -t A | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's a small offering? Or maybe people want shares FIRST!!! << it's tiny, 15 btc total. | [20:06] |
davout | mike_c: why would that change anything ? | [20:06] |
davout | i'm asking for an A record | [20:06] |
mike_c | dig -t A seeds.therealaltcoin.org @54.197.241.190 | [20:07] |
punkman | realtcoin | [20:07] |
punkman | ^^ | [20:07] |
mike_c | flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, | [20:07] |
davout | punkman: my face, my palm | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | wow they're really massacring nigeria. | [20:09] |
davout | mike_c: yeah works now | [20:09] |
mircea_popescu | i think someone needs to send argentina team an ugrend proposal | [20:09] |
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davout | lol | [20:09] |
mike_c | hopefully nobody actually reads the logs. | [20:10] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 9 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.31299681 BTC. Current weight: 3,557. | [20:10] |
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davout | mike_c: curious as to why i'm getting a servfail when not asking your server directly | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: this trader's biggets problem, which he is so obliviously documenting, is he is emotional << funny how that works huh. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | davout take a hint ? :D | [20:11] |
davout | mircea_popescu: ? | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | you know, "why do i get a fail message when im not doing anything" | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | "cuz you suck!!1" | [20:12] |
davout | meh, i get the same message as you | [20:12] |
davout | also same message from different machine, on different network | [20:13] |
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davout | mike_c: maybe that's related to using an IP directly as the NS field value, i have no fucking clue :D | [20:14] |
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punkman | "It is important to know that NS records are only responsible for defining the names of DNS servers within a zone, i.e. they do not represent IP addresses," | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | punkman what's a standard for if not pissing all over it ? | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | we're cats! | [20:18] |
BingoBoingo | ;;seen moiety | [20:18] |
gribble | moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 15 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: |
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punkman | yeah but I first said this 2 hours ago | [20:18] |
punkman | and now it's not working :P | [20:18] |
moiety | i here :] | [20:18] |
mike_c | so it should be seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS -> foo.therealaltcoin.org and then foo.therealaltcoin.org -> 54.x.x.x? | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | hi moiety | [20:18] |
moiety | i had an appointment for sorting everything out income wise, sorry | [20:19] |
moiety | hello | [20:19] |
davout | punkman: -assets currently looks like a bunch of medieval doctors putting leeches on a guy with a broken ankle | [20:19] |
punkman | I'm just glad I'm not a sysadmin | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | and it's worth every penny of the admission fee! | [20:20] |
mircea_popescu | chetty: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/25/want-to-disprove-man-made-climate-change-a-scientist-will-give-you-10000-if-you-can/ << 10k srsly ? it'd better be bitcoin. | [20:21] |
assbot | Want to Disprove Man-Made Climate Change? A Scientist Will Give You $10,000 if You Can | TheBlaze.com | [20:21] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, want to disprove tardstalk scam of the week ? nobody will give you 10 bitcents if you can ha-ha! | [20:21] |
pankkake | I'll give 10000 BTC to the first person to disprove the existence of the Space Elephant | [20:22] |
mircea_popescu | rithm: ok so firstly, bitcoin bought all of this <<< was it more than a car ? | [20:23] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake stop being unscientific!11 | [20:23] |
chetty | mircea_popescu, I was amused at the great scientist asking folks to prove a negative :P | [20:24] |
pankkake | can we have a 20 year bitbet against global warming? | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | chetty and then they wonder why i keep saying stupid === poor. | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake if youy put 10k down on it | [20:24] |
moiety | pankkake: elephants are scared of mice. galactic space mice (http://history.nasa.gov/animals.html) mean you will never find an elephant in space. i think this counts. | [20:26] |
mircea_popescu | give the girl 10k. | [20:26] |
[]bot | Bet created: "Amazon stock to close at over $350 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/965/ | [20:26] |
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pankkake | thankfully you didn't say 10k of what :) | [20:27] |
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moiety | i would accept 10k manuls | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google 10k manuls | [20:28] |
gribble | RT-10K :: Manuals :: Support :: Roland: [20:28] |
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mircea_popescu | fail. | [20:28] |
pankkake | yeah, google always manuals me when I want manuls :( | [20:28] |
davout | servfail. | [20:28] |
punkman | 10k gold manuls, would be nice | [20:28] |
mircea_popescu | reading the logs, you bunch have been at this "let's fuck up dns" for a while by now huh | [20:29] |
rithm | i should specify indirectly huh | [20:30] |
rithm | like th rig is for sale at halorig.com and you can with btc | [20:30] |
rithm | the camera was drop ship otc trade | [20:30] |
rithm | and so forth | [20:30] |
davout | mircea_popescu: "we heard you like dns, so we put a dns server in your dns server ..." | [20:31] |
rithm | mircea_popescu you actually read the logs? | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | rithm every day since 2012. | [20:31] |
rithm | i'm gonna start trolling you when you are afk pretty hard | [20:31] |
rithm | now that i know this | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust assbot rithm | [20:31] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user rithm: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=rithm | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=rithm | Rated since: Tue May 6 14:03:45 2014 | [20:31] |
ThickAsThieves | there's a penalty for polluting rithm | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | careful leetal grasshopper :D | [20:31] |
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ThickAsThieves | assbot will fine you | [20:32] |
rithm | a penalty | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | a penal tit | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google penal tit | [20:32] |
rithm | i love to be tied up and flogged | [20:32] |
gribble | PROGRAM BILL tit 3: |
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ThickAsThieves | so the Titan coins were loaded like instantly | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | /htm/ is such a good directory to have. | [20:32] |
rithm | so evil nick highlighting discouraged or outright banned? | [20:32] |
BingoBoingo | ;;google big tits rosebudding | [20:33] |
gribble | Rosebud, Lesbian Punishment - Pornhub.com: [20:33] |
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ThickAsThieves | and i emailed asking about gold ones cuz the website says out of stock | [20:33] |
ThickAsThieves | but they have 30 | [20:33] |
ThickAsThieves | so i'ma get some | [20:33] |
rithm | i have one ThickAsThieves | [20:33] |
rithm | it is shiny | [20:33] |
ThickAsThieves | yep | [20:33] |
ThickAsThieves | i figure i want a lil gold anyway | [20:33] |
rithm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuoB5aVP4gA | [20:34] |
assbot | Titan One Gold (Titan AU) - YouTube | [20:34] |
ThickAsThieves | such slideshow! | [20:34] |
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rithm | my phone now does those for me | [20:34] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c: how many assetters does it take to screw in a lightbulb :p << how do you fit a girl in a lightbulb ? | [20:34] |
rithm | these new phones are magic | [20:35] |
rithm | like i can take a few pics and select a theme and boom slideshow | [20:35] |
rithm | works with video too | [20:35] |
ThickAsThieves | you can take the girl out of the lightbulb, but ya cant take the lightbulb outta the girl | [20:35] |
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pankkake | assetters would simply declare that light is a scam | [20:36] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: basically i bet while half asleep last night and have no idea on what <<< mike_c i think we should cater to this guy :D | [20:36] |
pankkake | "For the record, a boatload of neckbeards doesn't pay for one single financier. This because tech people actually are humanly inferior to money people. They're less of a person." | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake i'll have to revisit that nao that nasdaq wants to join teh fray :D | [20:37] |
mike_c | yes. sleepy bettors will be accomodated. | [20:37] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [20:37] |
ThickAsThieves | it gets weirder tho | [20:38] |
ThickAsThieves | the address i bet from | [20:38] |
ThickAsThieves | isnt in my wallet | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [20:38] |
pankkake | are you using bitcoin-qt? it doesn't list change addresses | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | remember that guy a year or so ago threatening to kill kako's plushie toys | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | because we stole his moneyz!!! | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | and then his address wasn't even on the bet ? | [20:38] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah pankkake, that must be it | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | $depth d.bpay | [20:39] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [D.BPAY] Bids: | [20:39] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [D.BPAY] Asks: 900 @ 0.23999999 | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | $depth d.btgo | [20:39] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [D.BTGO] Bids: | [20:39] |
empyex | mircea_popescu: [D.BTGO] Asks: 1000 @ 0.05249970 | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | if anyone wishes to invest... | [20:40] |
ThickAsThieves | major oversight in WoL | [20:40] |
ThickAsThieves | trollbox | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c : add a webirc link to #wol in the page ? | [20:41] |
ThickAsThieves | imo it should be in the same window | [20:42] |
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ThickAsThieves | think of the WoL Community man | [20:42] |
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mircea_popescu | who ? | [20:42] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [20:42] |
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FabianB | $traded | [20:48] |
empyex | FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY F.MPIF S.MPOE | [20:48] |
pankkake | !t m d.bpay | [20:48] |
assbot | [MPEX:D.BPAY] 1D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 7D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC), 30D: 0.25 / 0.25 / 0.25 (100 shares, 25.00 BTC) | [20:48] |
pankkake | :o | [20:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.0005234 = 1.0468 BTC [+] | [20:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21519 @ 0.00083149 = 17.8928 BTC [+] {2} | [20:53] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/25/no-do-not-dencentralize-everything/ | [20:56] |
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[]bot | Bet created: "Nasdaq to close at over $4500 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/966/ | [21:07] |
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mircea_popescu | pankkake scamveloper works | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | sorta the confluence of scammer, eloper and developer | [21:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.0008285 = 2.9826 BTC [-] | [21:11] |
pankkake | did not think of eloper | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | you blew a link tho | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/%3Eexchanges%3C/a%3E,%20%3Ca%20href= | [21:12] |
assbot | Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [21:12] |
pankkake | I have another post coming :D I've deciced against a third by inserting it in the second | [21:12] |
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pankkake | indeed… I've crapped on most of my hrefs while writing too | [21:13] |
pankkake | another reason I want to switch out of wordpress: writing HTML | [21:13] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Police_ID_suspect_in_Philadelphia_gun_range_robberies.html | [21:14] |
assbot | Police seek suspect in Philadelphia gun range robberies | [21:14] |
FabianB | hm. doesn't nasdaq close in points and not in usd? | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | i write html in wp | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | FabianB ya | [21:15] |
FabianB | mircea_popescu: 20:07 <+[]bot> Bet created: "Nasdaq to close at over $4500 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/966/ | [21:15] |
assbot | BitBet - Nasdaq to close at over $4500 in 2014 :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`997 (100`000 to 1) | [21:15] |
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BingoBoingo | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=140327616811443&w=2 | [21:24] |
assbot | 'Re: compare memcmp with 0' - MARC | [21:24] |
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davout | pankkake: "Now some guy now wants to decentralize decentralized version control." <<< Oo | [21:39] |
punkman | http://news.yahoo.com/solar-roadways-210149010.html | [21:49] |
assbot | Crowdfunding campaign raises $2.2M to build solar roadways - Yahoo News | [21:49] |
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Namworld | Re what I was talking about the other day concerning provably fair systems. To be fair, most casinos do the same thing re providing new server seeds after user's seed. | [21:50] |
Namworld | So I'll probably do a public campaign concerning all venues. | [21:50] |
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Namworld | So I got some stuff written, concerning logic behind it and proposed change to such systems. | [21:51] |
Namworld | Here's what I have thus far: http://pastebin.com/bQj4fSht | [21:51] |
assbot | Provably Fair System - Pastebin.com | [21:51] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld you need a blog | [21:52] |
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Namworld | I don't have one. Don't think I write often enough to attract any kind of regular audience regardless. | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | 1. Client changes the seed after each new server seed, before every bet. He doesn't know server seed, so seed he provides should give a random number. (Painfully tedious, few actually do it, but for those who do, provably fair.) << prolly a bot that does this would be useful. | [21:53] |
punkman | I want to make a nice provably fair baccarat game. Get all those chinese bitcoins. | [21:53] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.govexec.com/federal-news/fedblog/2014/06/epa-employees-told-stop-pooping-hallway/87223/ | [21:53] |
assbot | EPA Employees Told to Stop Pooping in the Hallway - Fedblog - News - GovExec.com | [21:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082949 = 4.5622 BTC [+] | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld stop being stubborn. if you put up text like that you need a blog. how's someone going to comment on it for instance ? how's someone coming in 1 year know what was already commented ? | [21:53] |
Namworld | Yes, it should indeed be a requirement to have such an external tool for current venues. | [21:54] |
Namworld | mircea, I'll probably just post it on the gambling forum where it is relevant and let people pitch in. | [21:54] |
Namworld | At least there's a large, targeted audience there. | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | i guess also | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | punkman i never got bacarrat, but you know what might be a good idea ? | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | a museum of gambling site | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | play all the games that meanwhile died, from ancient egypt and fenicia to chemin-du-fer | [21:56] |
punkman | not bad | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld "No, you wouldn't be able to notice that the website, across all players, has a much higher house edge than 1% which is unlikely. It's easy to fill with fake "lucky" account to compensate " << you could notice it over your own experience. | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | jd for instance allows you to run 0 bet sampling rounds of infinite size. | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | or should i say allowed. | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | but anywqay, this entire paper is not about server cheating, it's about how "if you're lazy and stupid you might lose". sure. as it should be. let people make proper betting bots with seeding per bet | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | and yes jd was correctly implemented. | [21:59] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/25/bitcoin-is-not-a-payment-network/ | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | the coinroll "end of the day disclosure" method is also acceptable. it may be open to abuse for low volume sites (based on finding hash collisions, much in the same way mining works) but doesn't seem too practical | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | client's last deposit tx is good, and a lot of space in there in the block in case it's needed. | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | i still say you should make a blog. | [22:02] |
Namworld | It doesn't help much if the system is targetting accounts with large balance and stops cheating after a small sample/when the large balance isn't making large bets. | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | this is true | [22:03] |
Namworld | They could steal a few thousands extra BTC on large bets which might not seem too odd until it's too late. | [22:03] |
Namworld | Would also be costly to attempt to verify by betting. | [22:03] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bitbet-us-scammers-ignore-delivered-bfl-products.114047/ | [22:04] |
assbot | bitbet.us scammers ignore delivered BFL products | Bitcointa.lk | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | lol epic | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld do you see why the jd "show on request" model is slightly stronger for fairness than the "fixed time disclosure" ? | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake "Then there is services like" there are. | [22:08] |
Namworld | How is it stronger for fairness? Server seed provided prior to client seed. | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | let me show you a model. | [22:09] |
pankkake | I thought about it, and decided "there is" was the correct form, as I am saying "services like this exist" | [22:09] |
Namworld | Sure | [22:09] |
pankkake | but maybe I am confused about the grammar | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | you are yes. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld suppose site switcxhes at 1 btc. so : | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | server seed is "A". 0.1 btc comes in, is calculated. wins or loses. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | 0.2 btc comes in, idem calculated. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | at this point, server is also mining, and knows that hash "B" would also be consistent with the history so far. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | ie, either "A" or "B" would give the 0.1 and 0.2 bets same results. | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | 1.2 btc bet comes in. server looks at results, A wins, B loses. server picks its hash as B and reconstructs the merkle tree | [22:11] |
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mircea_popescu | now, if you know when the hash will have to be revealed, this is possible | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | if hash may be revealed at any random point, this is suddenly problematic | [22:12] |
Namworld | There's a single server seed for all users for the day... with its hash predisclosed. It would be pretty much impossible to reasonably find another seed that matches the hash... | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | the absolutely ideal system, imo, would be a server that used the same secret for ALL PLAYERS and reset it (for all players) at any player's request. but this poses problems for anon players. | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | it's a conundrum | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld a you also predisclose the hash ? | [22:13] |
ThickAsThieves | pankkake why do you lie to us http://www.coindesk.com/intuit-merchants-accept-bitcoin-paybycoin-service/ | [22:13] |
assbot | Intuit Lets Merchants Accept Bitcoin With New 'PayByCoin' Service | [22:13] |
Namworld | Yes, there's a list with months of secrets' hashes provided upfront. | [22:13] |
Namworld | Like JD provides the server's seed hash. | [22:13] |
ThickAsThieves | (intuit is what most small businesses and more use for acconting in US) | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld a ok nm then, it's quite strong | [22:14] |
Namworld | Here: https://coinroll.com/files/secrethashes.txt | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | "Now some guy now wants" pankkake must proof moar omg | [22:14] |
Namworld | That and we don't provide a default client seed, we use the blockchain transaction ID of the last deposit. | [22:14] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld ya that part is very good. | [22:15] |
Namworld | So by default all players should be covered correctly | [22:15] |
Namworld | No work to do on the user's part, other than verification. | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld why is that txt not signed ? | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | and also it's a fine example of what'd go into the bitcoin-assets registrar of deeds. | [22:16] |
mircea_popescu | was someone working on that ? | [22:16] |
pankkake | this is why I usually don't publish after writing, but hey… | [22:16] |
ThickAsThieves | The BA Registrar & Brokerage House & Auto Parts | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:17] |
Namworld | Not sure, would probably be best for list to be signed. | [22:17] |
Namworld | Jurov would have to look into that. | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld if you want i can sign it for you. then whoever wants to say you changed it will also have to say i signed a new version. | [22:18] |
Namworld | If you're willing to do so, it would be great. Don't forget to include date. | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | alrighty. | [22:20] |
dignork | mircea_popescu: waste some money - http://www.proofofexistence.com/about | [22:20] |
assbot | Proof of Existence | [22:20] |
Namworld | I trust jurov not to lose/have list of secrets compromised. Although list/signatures might need to be updated if Coinroll is sold again to another party or list is compromised. | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | dignork youll have to search for that term :D | [22:20] |
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Namworld | A date with signatures shows when it was acknowledged to be changed. Such that none can claim a specific change occured prior to that date. | [22:21] |
Namworld | Maybe dooglus would be willing to sign the list too. | [22:21] |
Namworld | 2 strong parties to sign, along with jurov as the owner. | [22:21] |
Namworld | Should be sufficient. | [22:21] |
pankkake | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.0 | [22:22] |
assbot | Why Do You Invest? | [22:22] |
dignork | mircea_popescu: irony detector fails me today, the link was about provable timestamping, for you gpg sig on Namworld text | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | dignork http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=proofofexistence | [22:24] |
assbot | 3 results for 'proofofexistence' - #bitcoin-assets search | [22:24] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/coinrolltxt.asc | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake it's not you is it ? | [22:30] |
pankkake | no, it's the infamous crumbs | [22:30] |
Namworld | Thank you very much. | [22:30] |
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Namworld | I'll ask dooglus if he can do the same. Jurov or wao can publish both signed text files on the verification page. | [22:31] |
mircea_popescu | sure. | [22:31] |
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[]bot | Bet created: "Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer to be Yahoo CEO no more" http://bitbet.us/bet/967/ | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | what's crumbs infamous for again ? | [22:32] |
pankkake | trolling Legitimate Bitcoin Companies | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | lol k | [22:34] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04747994 = 0.7122 BTC [-] {2} | [22:34] |
mircea_popescu | "A more formalized version of this should be linked/appended to every single IPO offering on the forums as a cautionary tale. " | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, totally, let's ban mpoe-pr for doing it :D | [22:35] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-starts-deploying-cloud-mining-customers-waiting-monarchs/ | [22:35] |
mircea_popescu | oggnasty : "Valuing these offerings over time in BTC is idiotic..." | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | herpderp. | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | "You ask why people invest... Let me answer that for you as I have decades of experience providing analysis to investors... " | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | o brother. | [22:36] |
mircea_popescu | o wait. I'm lambchop ?! | [22:38] |
pankkake | so altcoin hashrate is basically one KnC Neptune | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | 3th or so no ? | [22:38] |
pankkake | yes | [22:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082742 = 4.3026 BTC [-] | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. like 6k usd total investment. | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | or about 10 btc. while a block is worth about 5k-10 satoshi | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | so you'd have to find 100k blocks or thereabouts to break even | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | (did i fuck up my math ?) | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | pankkake http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-101734 fixed link nao can has pingback | [22:42] |
assbot | Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [22:42] |
mircea_popescu | "Bitcoin with an infinite but reasonable inflation would not be so different." | [22:44] |
mircea_popescu | what the fuck does that mean | [22:44] |
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pankkake | I agree the formulation isn't ideal. I mean, what if block reward was 1 BTC forever | [22:45] |
mircea_popescu | but you're right, the only current business of pseudo-bitcoin businesses a la coinbase, bitpay etc is that they're benefiting from a legal inefficiency, where exchanges that admit it are being fucked actively, whereas exchangesd that pretend to be paymernt processors aren't fucked quite as bad quite as yet. | [22:45] |
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mircea_popescu | pankkake that is matematically equivalent to "each block is its own sort of halving" | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | in theory it should make no difference. | [22:47] |
pankkake | yes. but even yearly fixed inflation wouldn't be that bad imho | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i like your newfound activity. | [22:47] |
mircea_popescu | well imho based on what ? | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | This blog is the inalienable property of the greatest mind the universe ever had, and is ever going to have. Its contents are licensed under a Creative Commons License. | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | I encourage you to visit the links: the profiles section will help you in your daily worshiping of myself, while the other sections will allow you to experience the productions of some other great minds. However, you will come to the inevitable conclusion that I’m better than all of them combined. | [22:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04200184 = 0.588 BTC [-] {2} | [22:48] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha srsly ?> | [22:48] |
pankkake | I think predictable money supply is the most interesting property | [22:49] |
pankkake | of course, Bernankoin has somewhat predictable money supply and is worthless by design | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | actually i think something else is the most interesting property, and sorta too lazyto write blogpost | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | actually looking at http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ ... 60 posts past two weeks ? | [22:54] |
assbot | Assets Assimilated | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | quite the vibrant little community we got here. there's even a manul in a treehouse! | [22:54] |
pankkake | and many new blogs | [22:56] |
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mircea_popescu | like 3 posts / head i tcomes to | [23:09] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.0478897 = 1.6761 BTC [+] {2} | [23:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00082568 = 43.761 BTC [-] {4} | [23:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00082405 = 14.5857 BTC [-] {2} | [23:21] |
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mthreat | http://bakerlaw.com/alerts/bitcoin-investment-vehicles-beware-the-sec-is-watching | [23:54] |
assbot | Bitcoin Investment Vehicles Beware The SEC is Watching | BakerHostetler | [23:54] |
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