Forum logs for 25 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:31]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [02:31]
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BingoBoingo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/24/justin-cosma-ferguson-police_n_5705409.html?utm_hp_ref=tw [02:32]
assbot Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges [02:32]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [02:32]
mircea_popescu hi all, and welcome to mp's string of sunday pronnouncements! [02:32]
mircea_popescu pronouncement #1 : and he said unto them lo! that bitbet now allows searching by weight of bets! [02:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00062894 = 6.7926 BTC [-] [02:33]
mircea_popescu pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday. [02:35]
mircea_popescu knoweth ye, that while it is unlikely for freenode to buckle, more than anything because its brains are so scattered it's unlikely to manage to gather enough management to do anything, nevertheless this isn't a reason to not build parachute [02:35]
mircea_popescu and therefore! whosoever knoweth well the workings of the irc demon and how to set it up let me know, for we shall have a plan b, and our plan b shall take over the earth! [02:36]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [02:36]
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mircea_popescu so end the glorious sunday pronouncements, join us next sunday for nude frolicking in the grass and fire spitting. [02:37]
ThickAsThieves praised be [02:39]
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mircea_popescu someone should start a church of confusing form with function. [02:39]
mircea_popescu that's an easy sell if there ever was one. [02:39]
ThickAsThieves USA [02:40]
mircea_popescu i guess the catholics also did pretty well on the score. [02:40]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [02:46]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 506.85, Best ask: 507.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.69000, Last trade: 507.86, 24 hour volume: 5778.20961167, 24 hour low: 495.02, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.13191356 [02:46]
BingoBoingo ;;parachute [02:46]
gribble Error: "parachute" is not a valid command. [02:46]
BingoBoingo !parachute [02:46]
BingoBoingo %parachute [02:46]
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asciilifeform aha parachute! [02:50]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: care to air out the dirt? why let the bastards suffer quietly ? [02:50]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know there's this pesky rule of nature that the more one speaks the less one knows. [02:53]
mircea_popescu this thing seems to hold true in the most perverse and unexpected of applications. [02:53]
asciilifeform aha sure [02:53]
asciilifeform but before i can offer a potential parachute - need to know threat model. [02:54]
asciilifeform gpg-gram if you like. [02:54]
mircea_popescu that's immaterial. the threat defense, however, will be an array of geographically distributed servers which someone will have to shepherd the ircd on. [02:54]
mircea_popescu you know, just like freenode, except with a helluva lot more moneyz. [02:55]
mircea_popescu aand problem solved. [02:55]
mircea_popescu ty for participating everyone :) [02:55]
* asciilifeform would still like to know who, approximately, is likely to bring approximately what kind of siege weapon to his gates before dusting off the box kept for this purpose. [02:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's all social engineering. the nsa does not have any technical capbility worth the mention. [02:57]
* asciilifeform pictured 'complaint' wankers, rather than nsa [02:57]
mircea_popescu on one hand because it is actually very limited on th edirect, on the other hand because it is very affraid to use even the little it has lest a hb rehash. [02:57]
asciilifeform lamers. [03:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly. the fiat economy is predicated on the theory that value may be constructed out of a trillion promises that each on and of itself is worthless [03:03]
mircea_popescu and the fiat state is predicated on the theory that productive work may be extracted out of assemblages of a trillion shitheads that by and of themselves are wholly incapable. [03:03]
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mircea_popescu even at the risk of driving down legitimate promises and capable people, the theory goes, this is still a worthwhile endeavour. [03:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Ilia_Efimovich_Repin_(1844-1930)_-_Volga_Boatmen_(1870-1873).jpg [03:04]
mircea_popescu o look at that! buskers! [03:04]
asciilifeform where i live, a 'busker' is a fellow playing, e.g., accordion on a steet, begging for pennies [03:05]
mircea_popescu same dress n'est pass ? same look ? [03:05]
mircea_popescu same cool. [03:05]
asciilifeform approximately. [03:05]
asciilifeform the folks pictured are бурлаки. (yes, we had a separate name for this occupation.) [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00063257 = 4.5241 BTC [+] [03:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: at any rate, what kind of machine is necessary, for what kind of load? just #b-a ? [03:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se tho. [03:07]
mircea_popescu i mean not that more will hurt, when-and-if. [03:07]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i have no report for today, been in bed best part of a week [03:07]
mircea_popescu cazalla new gf ? [03:08]
cazalla hardly, depressed more like it [03:08]
asciilifeform it's not a matter of the machines per se << of what, then ? [03:08]
mircea_popescu the guy to run the software package. [03:09]
mircea_popescu cazalla care to share with the group ? [03:09]
cazalla mircea_popescu, this pretty much http://pastebin.com/9sftKGAJ doctors say tldr [03:13]
assbot Head Area Tingling - on top of head, face, back of head, neck, shoulders, var - Pastebin.com [03:13]
mircea_popescu pinched nerve. [03:14]
mircea_popescu started with the tri, got the whole stack by now. [03:15]
cazalla i've had mri of neck, brain, cardiac ct, halter monitor, xrays, blood work, etc etc [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 905 @ 0.00063595 = 0.5755 BTC [+] [03:16]
mircea_popescu dja work out ? [03:16]
cazalla i use to [03:16]
cazalla so that's why i sometimes stay in bed for a week or 2 and just sleep the depression off [03:17]
mircea_popescu go work out. none of that high performance gym shit tho, this isn't to perform, this is to relax. ride a horse. swim. something sane. [03:18]
mircea_popescu fuck, for that matter, quite legitimate. [03:18]
* asciilifeform while reading about modern irc daemonology, learned that founder of freenode died of having-problems in '06. [03:19]
cazalla mircea_popescu, spring is due here so i'm going to do laps once it warms up a little [03:19]
asciilifeform (and he was publicly smeared in various ways, e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net) [03:20]
assbot 404: Page not found | The Register [03:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty much yes. [03:20]
mircea_popescu cazalla you're not supposed to sit, but that's a splendid idea : pole dancing. [03:20]
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pete_dushenski http://contravex.com/2014/08/24/for-states-small-is-beautiful/ [03:21]
assbot For States, Small Is Beautiful | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [03:21]
pete_dushenski off to a celebration dinner, just leaving this year. [03:21]
pete_dushenski night all! [03:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform to be perfectly fair, the guy wasn't keeping his finances in the best of orders (according to you know, the criteria required so you don't get called "a cult leader" by teh cult leadership). nevertheless, nothing nearly as bad as what the childfucker jimbo wales did in his day [03:21]
pete_dushenski s/year/here omfg [03:22]
mircea_popescu ironically, the very guy the entire clampdown on the internets exist to protect the internets for [03:22]
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mircea_popescu gets to run a piece of shit "resource" that everyone pushes as if it were useful. [03:22]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#749841 [03:23]
assbot Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed. [03:23]
mircea_popescu obviously. but the convenience does not resolve the other angle. it's a ruinous association. [03:23]
asciilifeform example: pediwik page for nsa 'type a' - gone. [03:24]
asciilifeform perma-deleted. [03:24]
mircea_popescu "why do you hang out with these bums ?" "because they're the only people that call me a beauty queen", said the ambitious teenaged slut. [03:24]
mircea_popescu "well honey, that doesn't make them any less bums" [03:24]
mircea_popescu but yes, it's been for many decades now the established mo of the great "nation" of the united states : to grow an inch, cut an inch off the measuring tape. [03:25]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, i'm still interested in forum posting, didn't want you to think i was blowing it off even though that's what i've done this week, i'll bbl, week of logs to catch up on [03:25]
mircea_popescu cazalla no biggy. this is the fungible sort of work, it'll wait. [03:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: the use of pliable folks: consider, what was vyacheslav molotov's main job qualification ? [03:27]
asciilifeform (answer: his wife. in gulag.) [03:27]
mircea_popescu but he still sucked. [03:28]
mircea_popescu you know ? putting some idiot's wife in the gulag doesn't make him suddenly smart. [03:28]
asciilifeform sure. [03:28]
asciilifeform 'smart' wasn't the top objective, though. [03:28]
asciilifeform pederasty doesn't make herr wales smarter, either. [03:28]
asciilifeform or brock pierce [03:29]
mircea_popescu think of it : two major powers, with very close ideologies, the absolute leader of one in love with the absolute leader of the other, managed to go to war! [03:29]
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mircea_popescu who's to blame ? inept ribentropp, inept molotov, chiefly. [03:29]
mircea_popescu if they worked together we'd be sitting here speaking german threatening doom to the third reich. [03:29]
asciilifeform lol [03:29]
mircea_popescu so, what's the gulag got stalin ? a pliable idiot. [03:29]
mircea_popescu what's that cost him ? the great patriotic war. [03:29]
mircea_popescu millions of country boys had to be assembled in the choir invisible to rectify the mistakes of two inept diplomats. [03:30]
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* asciilifeform isn't suggesting that the pliable idiot stratagem is a brilliant one that everyone should imitate - just pointing out its age. [03:31]
mircea_popescu its age, indeed. two hundred years old and change. [03:31]
mircea_popescu i think balzac is the first to describe it. some small sleepy country town somewhere, with two printing licenses [03:31]
mircea_popescu the owner of one figuring it's better to keep the other in the hands of its current inept owner than let him lose it. [03:32]
mircea_popescu or, if you prefer, de retz has some mentions in his memoirs, to the same principle. [03:32]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/assumptions/ [03:33]
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mircea_popescu when i see that name change i salivate. [03:33]
BingoBoingo lol [03:33]
mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/buttocks/ << almond milk i'd go for. [03:35]
assbot Perfect buttocks now! [03:35]
BingoBoingo Almond milk is about the only way I find almonds palatable, the demon cyanide tasting seeds that they are. [03:36]
BingoBoingo Linked in an Oglaf ad banner http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2013/12/19/hide-liquor-in-your-tampons/ [03:38]
assbot Hide Liquor In Your Tampons » The Worst Things For Sale [03:38]
BingoBoingo http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1480203246/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1480203246&linkCode=as2&tag=natdee-20 [03:38]
assbot Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies (Math for Babies): Fred Carlson: 9781480203242: Amazon.com: Books [03:38]
* asciilifeform misread as 'non-euclidean geometry for babes' [03:38]
BingoBoingo "Non-Euclidean Geometry for Babies is intended to introduce babies to the basics of Euclid's Geometry, and supposes that the so-called "Parallel Postulate" might not be true. " [03:39]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [03:39]
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asciilifeform http://oglaf.com/harrow << problems of rectothermodynamicists. [03:40]
assbot harrow [03:40]
mircea_popescu this isn't such a great thing for babies. [03:45]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. [03:53]
assbot - YouTube [03:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ud urk [03:54]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=urk | urk. to annoy or bother someone deeply. Gurl numba 1: grrrrrrr i don't like ha. Gurl numba 2: why not? she's nice.... Gurl numba 1: she just urks me..something ... [03:54]
mircea_popescu heh. [03:54]
asciilifeform ukrs. [03:54]
mircea_popescu o right [03:54]
mircea_popescu ;;ud ukrs [03:55]
gribble Google found nothing. [03:55]
mircea_popescu yay. [03:55]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why's the reporter so fucking excited lol [03:55]
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asciilifeform !s ancient ukrs [03:57]
assbot 0 results for 'ancient ukrs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ancient+ukrs [03:57]
asciilifeform damn. [03:57]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2014#801927 [04:00]
assbot Logged on 20-08-2014 04:00:19; *: asciilifeform prefers viktor pelevin's уркаина - 'urkaine', which metamorphosizes over 1000 years (in one of his tales) to 'urkland' and then 'orcland.' [04:00]
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mircea_popescu you know words that don't even exist! [04:07]
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BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRM7OZktALE << column of captive urks led through donetsk. water truck washes road after them, just like they did in the '44 parade after captured germans. << I like the flack vest clearly labeled "Press" [04:09]
assbot - YouTube [04:09]
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asciilifeform http://xs-sniper.com/blackhat2014/BH2014-Billy-Rios.pdf [04:26]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually the ukrs started really calling themselves that in the '90s, when they wrote the hilarious schoolbooks about 'ancient ukrs, they fought rome!' [04:35]
mircea_popescu yeah i know. we had a bunch of crypto natl-socialist idiots in romania too. [04:36]
asciilifeform now it's SOP among the resistance. [04:36]
asciilifeform aha. [04:36]
mircea_popescu i think even mentioned. [04:36]
asciilifeform we come from the ducks, who come from the trucks. [04:36]
asciilifeform yes. [04:36]
mircea_popescu they taught the greeks magic and romans to write don;'t you know./ [04:36]
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asciilifeform http://imgur.com/V8M9nsA [04:42]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [04:42]
asciilifeform (from linked document) [04:42]
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asciilifeform what's missing? plenty [04:42]
asciilifeform (what instrument? ion mobility spectrometer, clearly.) [04:43]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform why the fuck windows. [04:48]
asciilifeform because! [04:48]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/weak-sauce/ [05:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who's the fellow screaming at the crowd ? [05:24]
mircea_popescu taleb [05:24]
asciilifeform aha [05:24]
* asciilifeform guessed correctly [05:24]
* asciilifeform would love to buy a (yes) bowdlerized compendium of taleb, with all the annoying 'i'm the strongest man alive, grasp my throbbing cock!' crapola snipped out. [05:25]
mircea_popescu lol it bothers you ? [05:26]
asciilifeform it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration [05:26]
mircea_popescu kinda makes me chuckle privately. [05:26]
mircea_popescu guy's what, 60 by now ? [05:27]
mircea_popescu what's he going to do if say a bn chicks actually decide to go for it ? [05:27]
asciilifeform if i saw a mosquito for the first and only time, i'd probably laugh at it too [05:27]
mircea_popescu not like he has an elaborate sorting system in place. [05:27]
mircea_popescu he's setting himself up for catastrophic rewind. [05:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?! [05:30]
mircea_popescu i had THE COLLECTION. [05:30]
mircea_popescu who do you think you're talking to here. [05:30]
asciilifeform ahaha [05:30]
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* asciilifeform has the collection [05:30]
mircea_popescu !ip Kieronbm [05:30]
mircea_popescu admittedly i couldn't really do the exercises [05:30]
mircea_popescu but i enjoyed looking at the pictures. [05:30]
* asciilifeform has a blast with bedtime reading of 'квант,' 'химия и жизнь,' 'наука и жизнь', etc. for ages now. who said '4k' tablets had no use. [05:32]
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asciilifeform phun phact. 'прикладная химия' 1941 (forget which month) was devoted to recipes for... meth. [05:33]
mircea_popescu "theoretical physicists calculate the imaginary part of schroedinger function collapses for various items in their room and then convert it all to matrix form to go to sleep" [05:33]
asciilifeform (leningrad, during blockade, reportedly churned out 10kg/day.) [05:34]
mircea_popescu most serious bunkers include some. [05:34]
asciilifeform even today. [05:35]
mircea_popescu lol even today., well yes even today, what's changed ? [05:35]
asciilifeform 'morals' lol [05:35]
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mircea_popescu no they haven't lol. [05:36]
BingoBoingo Well now there's options like methylphenidate, modafinil, and all sorts of other imposters [05:37]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: military men, afaik, are noted for a love of 'classic' tech [05:38]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if the soldier can only carry one pill, what modern replacement psychostimulator would suffice ? [05:39]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The germans had a pill... [05:40]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'pervitin' ? that was ordinary 'meth' [05:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net << this is a great read btw, because look! look how desolate the field was, just ten short years ago, [05:41]
assbot Buy a piece of Net nostalgia for $5,000 The Register [05:41]
mircea_popescu back when we didn't have money. [05:41]
mircea_popescu and i don't mean some money, or even a lot of money. [05:41]
mircea_popescu i mean THE money. [05:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm thinking of the one that rolled the meth together with an opiate, and maybe a few other things [05:41]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why would you include an opiate ? [05:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform because pure amphetamine is undiscriminatory. [05:42]
mircea_popescu ever had an itch / [05:42]
BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX [05:42]
assbot D-IX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [05:42]
asciilifeform undiscriminatory ? [05:43]
BingoBoingo The itching, and fatigue... injury.. [05:43]
BingoBoingo undiscriminatory ? << Hits receptors without much regard for location in the body [05:43]
asciilifeform how does an opiate help here? [05:44]
mircea_popescu if well chosen the opiate is more selective. [05:45]
mircea_popescu at least that's the theory. [05:45]
BingoBoingo Including just enough for some analgesia masks side effects of the amphetamine activating all kinds of catecholamine receptors it wasn't intended to [05:45]
BingoBoingo Supposedly [05:45]
BingoBoingo The recreational term I think is "speedballing" [05:46]
asciilifeform 'At first the members of the punishment battalion whistled and sang songs. [But] most of them had collapsed after the first 24 hours.' [05:48]
mircea_popescu by the way : http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/ଓଡ଼ିଆ [05:53]
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decimation I think methamphetamines are still prescribed for military pilots who need to 'remain alert' for days at a time [05:58]
decimation asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. [06:00]
mircea_popescu decimation they're self prescribed by doctors working the us meatgrinder for sure. [06:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << does this happen with my stuff too ? [06:00]
ThickAsThieves cazalla, is it fibromyalgia? [06:01]
ThickAsThieves my dad has it [06:02]
ThickAsThieves sounds like uit [06:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not so much [06:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wasn't that for girls ? [06:02]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your stuff typically includes sufficient meth to drown out the opium. [06:03]
ThickAsThieves it's for people who beat up their bodies and are susceptible to it, i'm guessing [06:03]
ThickAsThieves dad has owned a masonry company most of his life [06:03]
mircea_popescu http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11974674 [06:03]
assbot Gender differences in fibromyalgia... [J Gend Specif Med. 2002 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI [06:03]
mircea_popescu no look at that, i was actually right. 10% or so men. [06:03]
mircea_popescu looks like genetic on that basis. you gotta be really unlucky as a guy [06:04]
ThickAsThieves didnt know that [06:04]
ThickAsThieves i never met someone else with uit [06:04]
ThickAsThieves though i wouldbnt be surprised if it's in me too [06:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform cause i was thinking, i prolly do more of it than poor taleb. [06:04]
mircea_popescu who, notably, has a lot more grounds than me to be all "fu world y u don't respek!" [06:05]
ThickAsThieves i think i heard pot helps with fibro [06:05]
ThickAsThieves havent gotten pops to try yet [06:05]
ThickAsThieves he's still busy breaking his back [06:05]
mircea_popescu wasn't this the poster for medical pot ? it helps fibromyalgia ? [06:05]
ThickAsThieves dunno [06:06]
asciilifeform perhaps the next pill, 'D-X,' will be a meth and thc combo [06:06]
ThickAsThieves i was never a pot activist [06:06]
ThickAsThieves though i like it just fine [06:06]
asciilifeform are there meth activists ? [06:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. they scrub things clean. [06:06]
mircea_popescu ;;google look at me, busy as a bee [06:06]
gribble Meth song - YouTube: ; Meth Song - YouTube: ; Official Meth Theme Song - YouTube: [06:06]
ThickAsThieves meth had it's own acclaimed tv show, it's doing fine [06:07]
decimation mircea_popescu: you have a different writing style. you don't set off the 'derp' alarm, you set off the 'wait, wtf is he on about' alarm, which generally results in an interpretation excercise [06:07]
ThickAsThieves its [06:07]
asciilifeform surely someone is campaigning to have meth brought back to the masses. [06:07]
mircea_popescu decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ? [06:07]
ThickAsThieves there are the guys that think all drugs should be legal [06:07]
mircea_popescu tnk [06:07]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there are guys that thing all ages should be legal. [06:08]
mircea_popescu no shortage of guys. [06:08]
asciilifeform busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems [06:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's valid. a) erdos doesn't get his guidance from youtube ; b) most people taking it will scrub. [06:09]
decimation mircea_popescu: yeah there's banality and there's also constant generalization. I realize he's trying to write generally, but it comes close to old-man ranting [06:09]
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mircea_popescu it's part of that undiscrimination mentioned earlier. it seems to particularly empower any ocd streak you may have. [06:10]
mircea_popescu just like acid isn't a good adjuvant to latent paranoia. [06:10]
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BingoBoingo http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/04/20/breaking-bads-s/ [06:11]
mircea_popescu decimation people got hacked lately with this "only the general is important" rootkit. it meshes well with the divinsation of data-in-se [06:11]
assbot How did a scary Mexican gangsta-rap group end up on one of TV's hottest shows? | The Music Mix | EW.com [06:11]
mircea_popescu because somehow they've decided "data" is a substance, it's no longer fit for the thinking man to generate data, and so no more of things like the excellent field reports people like saussure and levi-strauss dedicated their lives to [06:12]
mircea_popescu so now all one can still do with his mind is "generalize" [06:12]
mircea_popescu on the basis of the holy data, as such. [06:12]
decimation to me, if one is going to improve on the "only in general" then one is going to have to better than Kant, Kierkegaard, Spinoza, Leibniz, etc. [06:12]
* asciilifeform most people taking it will scrub << wonders what kind of 'public education' films will be made about, e.g., logic analyzers, when these are banned [06:12]
mircea_popescu decimation the point is valid, there's relatively little useful stuff these singers/songwriters can do. [06:13]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you actually dispute this ? [06:13]
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decimation "on the basis of holy data" << oglaf's princeling is searching for holy data to generalize upon as well :) [06:13]
asciilifeform re: mexican drug ballads: obligatory: http://www.malavita.com/diemusik_en.html [06:14]
assbot LA MUSICA DELLA MAFIA [06:14]
mircea_popescu somehow it's conveniently forgotten that einstein's general revolution was based on laboratory data [06:14]
mircea_popescu THAT WAS MOSTLY NOT ACCEPTED AS DATA at the time. [06:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i believe it. most people - will, likely - scrub. [06:14]
decimation so was maxwell's brilliant analysis [06:14]
mircea_popescu the establishment had a different set of data. [06:14]
mircea_popescu decimation exactly. [06:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not saying this is grounds to make anything legal or illegal, obviously. [06:15]
mircea_popescu but i don't believe you'll ever be able to run a place where drugs (the actual sort) are legal, for purely economic reasons. [06:15]
asciilifeform gedankenexperiment time. go to your workbench, pick some precious, rare, instrument - and contemplate what 'most people' would do with it. [06:15]
asciilifeform enough to give you insomnia. [06:16]
asciilifeform economic reasons >> so long as the slaves get the right kind of marching powder (i.e., with the requisite proportion of meth to opium) - what economic reasons ? [06:17]
mircea_popescu exactly those. [06:17]
mircea_popescu you presume to know who the slaves are. [06:17]
mircea_popescu how would you ? [06:17]
asciilifeform presumably - the folks queueing up for the marching powder ? [06:18]
mircea_popescu but whether it's legal or illegal doesn't decide whether they queue up for it [06:18]
mircea_popescu instead, it decides if you may force them to take it. [06:18]
asciilifeform aha the olympics thread [06:18]
mircea_popescu quite. [06:19]
asciilifeform 'if you can, you must' ? [06:19]
mircea_popescu exactly. making conception illegal for young women is fundamental if you want an educated set of women [06:19]
mircea_popescu because if it's not illegal, they'll all get impregnated aged 16 [06:19]
mircea_popescu the most curious one the first and foremost [06:19]
mircea_popescu and curiosity is a cognate of intelligence. especially in women [06:19]
decimation asciilifeform: "rare instrument" << I'm imagining a spectrum analyzer providing light for reading :( [06:20]
mircea_popescu decimation i bet you he had this microscope nails thing in his head. [06:20]
asciilifeform or this: [06:21]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzvEouWino [06:21]
assbot C1-65A - Bad Apple (HD) - YouTube [06:21]
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decimation asciilifeform: lol I'm not sure that old crt o-scope could be put to much better use [06:23]
* asciilifeform is quite partial to crt scope, except on occasion of travel [06:23]
BingoBoingo "Next, Golubic contacted Sony/BMG Latin, one of the few American labels that produces narcocorridos,and the label offered one of its up-and-coming acts, Les Cuates deSinaloa." [06:24]
decimation asciilifeform: I would agree that nothing quite replaces that "temporary storage" of phosphor fading slowly [06:25]
asciilifeform [insert obligatory bitching about ADC quantization artifacts here] [06:26]
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decimation asciilifeform: yeah most folks don't realize the limitations of adc's, especially when it comes to dynamic range issues [06:27]
decimation asciilifeform: I see your o-scope video raise you this guy: http://blog.narrat1ve.com/2013/08/08/vectors-or-my-man-inf-left-a-vec-and-a-9-at-my-crib/ [06:29]
assbot Nerdy Texts of Analog and Embedded Systems Wizardry » Blog Archive » Vectors, or “My Man Inf Left A VEC and a 9 At My Crib” [06:29]
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decimation the xilinx board? [06:32]
asciilifeform that one. [06:32]
asciilifeform (among others) [06:32]
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decimation apparently this guy wrote most of the RTL: http://www.batslyadams.com/ [06:39]
assbot Andy's Electronics Projects [06:39]
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xanthyos he thinks i'm going to embarass him in here [07:09]
xanthyos because he's a cunt and he likes to keep a facade in here to impress mp [07:09]
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kakobrekla lolk [07:10]
xanthyos ;;rate danielpbarron -1 fickle with his friends, uses the bible to justify being disloyal [07:10]
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xanthyos danielpbarron: tell your drug dealer friend i want him to settle his debt with me immediately. [07:11]
xanthyos i'm cutting ties with both of you [07:11]
danielpbarron hm, ok [07:11]
xanthyos now i feel awkward, and i'm sorry for disrupting things. [07:13]
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xanthyos didn't feel comfortable staying on danielpbarron 's server anymore [07:16]
xanthyos fastest way to cut ties digitally [07:17]
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mircea_popescu because he's a cunt and he likes to keep a facade in here to impress mp << all teh dramaz ? [07:35]
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mircea_popescu http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/22/chilean_paper_says_microsoft_crushed_local_open_source_bill/ [07:38]
assbot Claim: Microsoft Alt-F4'd Chilean government open-source install bid The Register [07:38]
xanthyos i got the anger out and now all i have is shame. [07:38]
nubbins` sweet [07:39]
mircea_popescu lol funny how the emotional balance works. [07:40]
nubbins` torpor and catharsis [07:40]
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keows is BTCJAM bad for bitcoin? [07:42]
keows will the WOT prevail? [07:42]
mircea_popescu depends whose. [07:42]
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keows i will send you a penny in bitcoin if you say KEOWS [07:43]
keows mircea_popescu: [07:43]
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asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/21/mh370_disaster_cyber_snooping [07:45]
assbot Chinese hackers spied on investigators of Flight MH370 - report The Register [07:45]
mircea_popescu well in that case... [07:45]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdqv5xIsFLM [07:45]
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asciilifeform run moar winblows. [07:45]
cazalla ThickAsThieves: cazalla, is it fibromyalgia? >> I've been told it's somatization but i don't know tbh, i've exhausted whatever medical investigation i've been sent for, cardiologist said whatever it is, not my heart, neuro said whatever it is, not neurological, never tried cannabis for it, doesn't agree with me anyway so not an option [07:45]
keows i will send you one penny worth of bitcoins if you simply say [07:46]
keows KEOWS [07:46]
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nubbins` a penny, sweet [07:46]
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mircea_popescu "This was well-crafted malware that antivirus programs couldn't detect. It was a very sophisticated attack," Wahab added. << "it didn't come with a warning box to click on" [07:47]
mircea_popescu keows keep it. [07:47]
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keows at first i read "keows it up" [07:49]
keows and i go happy [07:49]
keows then i read again and im sad panda [07:49]
ThickAsThieves my cat just brought my wife's sports bra to me from across the house, waddling its front legs as it dragged in front in its mouth [07:50]
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mircea_popescu apparently cat thinks you're developing nicely. [07:51]
ThickAsThieves lol [07:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, left handle a comment blasting him about his "baseline expectation" bs. [07:52]
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BingoBoingo !s handle [07:59]
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BingoBoingo http://www.fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php [08:04]
assbot FSI Language Courses - Home [08:04]
asciilifeform lol [08:05]
BingoBoingo http://www.fsi-language-courses.org/Courses/Romanian/FSI%20-%20Romanian%20Reference%20Grammar%20-%20Student%20Text.pdf << Crutch, not a perfect one [08:06]
asciilifeform herr handle, incidentally, is employed as (not a secret) a lawyer. [08:07]
asciilifeform though, afaik, not the variety that argues cases. [08:07]
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mircea_popescu "Your content isn't worth much to begin with if it goes down in value as it gets shared." this is an interesting concept. [08:10]
asciilifeform presumably not counting the degenerate cases (e.g. private keys) ? [08:11]
penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/08/24/for-states-small-is-beautiful/ [08:15]
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mircea_popescu well secrets != content. [08:23]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: maximizing the market is not a valid goal of economics any more than maximizing body weight is not a valid goal of medicine. << lulz [08:26]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes re your article, there was at least another scam derpopoulous pushed. can't seem to recall wtf it was tho. [13:18]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i'm curious what you'd be like if there was no coffee for a week or two. [13:18]
fluffypony when I go hiking I don't take coffee with [13:19]
fluffypony Otter Trail 10 day hike was fine [13:19]
mircea_popescu aok [13:19]
fluffypony it's different when you're out there and active and not staring at a screen all day [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14155 @ 0.00064104 = 9.0739 BTC [+] [13:20]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol the past! "Sep 04 22:37:31 * ciuciu (~chatzilla@96.127.204.194) has joined #bitcoin-assets" [13:23]
mircea_popescu !s from:ciuciu [13:23]
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assbot 0 results for 'from:ciuciu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aciuciu [13:23]
BingoBoingo I don't think he's been on since public logs [13:23]
mircea_popescu what did he defraud his "numerous investors" with ? some sort of mining farm was it [13:24]
BingoBoingo Mining, a bond? Twas before I really started taking notes. [13:25]
mircea_popescu yeah something like that. [13:26]
mircea_popescu "The Bitcoin community is not just overwhelmingly larger but of overwhelmingly better quality as well. Bitcoin is surrounded by real entrepreneurs working hard to create new and useful services for Bitcoin. Altcoins are surrounded by loud-mouthed pretenders with irrational hopes of duplicating Nakamoto's success." [13:26]
mircea_popescu krawisz stomping heads [13:26]
fluffypony lol [13:26]
fluffypony although, Bitcoin "entrepreneurs" aren't much better [13:27]
mircea_popescu well obviously everything will be surrounded by a bunch of tims. [13:27]
BingoBoingo Back then it didn't much matter what people called their own things as those labels were rarely accurate [13:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo quite. [13:28]
mircea_popescu more a function of what had been on tv that week / what the person picked up from google finance. [13:28]
mircea_popescu hey have developed a series of fallacies capable of fooling newcomers into joining them, but they are all disingenuous. [13:28]
mircea_popescu Thus, the altcoin communities are not just embarrassing, but dangerous. Desperately wishing to be taken seriously despite having nothing worthwhile to offer, they will say absolutely anything to convince other people to join them. They persist in saying things easily refuted by economic logic, common sense, or verifiable facts. [13:28]
abathingape http://connect.customer.mheducation.com/wp-content/themes/mhc/a/i/more-As-and-Bs-Lower_w_Numbers-72dpi.png [13:29]
abathingape lol? [13:29]
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mircea_popescu well dangerous, but this is a good thing. [13:29]
mircea_popescu a world without danger is not a world. [13:29]
abathingape homework in america for colleges is becoming pay to use, [13:29]
abathingape its like $80 a class [13:29]
abathingape http://connect.customer.mheducation.com/ [13:29]
assbot McGraw-Hill Connect [13:29]
mircea_popescu abathingape someone should make a "fuck your girlfriend" service. [13:30]
mircea_popescu collect money from well to do white people, trick aspirational hispanos into working for free to "prove themselves", show a profit. [13:30]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [13:32]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 505.01, Best ask: 505.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 505.01, 24 hour volume: 6183.65763719, 24 hour low: 496.0, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 505.029295457 [13:32]
mircea_popescu sadly the guy has a bitcoin address as a coinbase wallet and a pgp but no wot. wtf. [13:32]
BingoBoingo %t [13:35]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169 [13:35]
mircea_popescu scam. [13:36]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/familia-traditionala-versus-harem-studiu-comparativ/ << fro teh romanian scholars. [13:37]
assbot Familia traditionala versus harem - studiu comparativ pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [13:37]
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mircea_popescu !up NumberSix_ [13:38]
-assbot- You voiced NumberSix_ for 30 minutes. [13:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.0006366 = 5.3977 BTC [-] [13:40]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic: I'm amazed at the trust people put into PoS, but then again after seeing the investment section of bitcointalk it isn't that surprising << makes two of us. [13:43]
mircea_popescu the best construction i can put on it is, "hey, the whiteknighting virgin geeks have finally found a way to express their usual "a guy that really loves and respects you and cares" derpage into bitcoin form" [13:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: re: nail polish poison detector << how many cases of dysentery from the finger dips. << i would imagine you dribble rather than dip. [13:44]
BingoBoingo "There is no principle difference between the ideal treatment for slaves captured in war and of children born in traditional families, both are people chained to their captors by some imagined debt, of which they personally have not acquiesced." << Interesting, if this is a roughly worthwhile translation. [13:45]
mircea_popescu o wow look at this poor bluemeanie dude, he loves me all over the log then i come in and am like all mean to him. [13:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 69 @ 0.011 = 0.759 BTC [+] [13:46]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you got most of it flawlessly, but the intro is a bitch [13:46]
mircea_popescu Nu exista in principiu o diferenta de tratament ideal < tratament ideal is, "ideal treatment", in the sense of normative, prescriptive treatment. [13:47]
BingoBoingo Ah [13:47]
mircea_popescu "nu exista in principiu" means there doesnt exist (nu exista) for absolute reasons (in principiu, roughly, following from principle, for reasons derived from prime principles) [13:47]
mircea_popescu so, "the ideal treatment of one does not differ from the other for reasons that are derived from prime principles". [13:48]
mircea_popescu the point being that while you're welcome to disagree in practice, your doing so is arbitrariety not reason. [13:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: exponentially difficult << 'learn' for translating a diplomat - perhaps hard; reading articles in your armchair slowly - not so hard << the diplomat in question doth protest. [13:50]
mircea_popescu (you meant live dubbing didn't you) [13:51]
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BingoBoingo "In net opposition to this bizarre and at least in appearance sick model of social organization, the harem shows some clear advantages." [13:55]
mircea_popescu some ample cleavages. [13:55]
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mircea_popescu !up Niko__ [13:56]
-assbot- You voiced Niko__ for 30 minutes. [13:56]
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mircea_popescu the log is so self referrential omfg. first there's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2014#806551 then there's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2014#806604 sometimes it feels like it just works on its own. [13:57]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2014 19:26:23; BlueMeanie4: hey if the mod is going to silence me for no voiced reason mid conversation- why bother? [13:57]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2014 20:11:27; BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/lisawomersley/status/499771410751815682 [13:57]
* BingoBoingo still has yet to recieve spam from the SEC/CIA/NSA/DHS/DEA/NYDSFMOGWTFBBQ asking him to read Trilema for them... [13:57]
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mircea_popescu how could they possibly trust you ? [13:58]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I have WoT! as some people from other channels might suggest... [13:59]
mircea_popescu you don't understand how the government works. it'll never pay you to do something you're already interested in. [13:59]
Niko__ greetings [14:01]
BingoBoingo Oh, that part of the problem [14:01]
mircea_popescu ello Niko__ [14:01]
BingoBoingo Welcome Niko__ [14:01]
mircea_popescu who're you ? [14:01]
Niko__ someone who has enough knowledge to himself in trouble [14:02]
BingoBoingo Ah allegedly I myself into trouble all the time [14:02]
mircea_popescu An organist playing old Stork had a prick that could hold a small fork, and between obbligatos he'd munch on tomatoes to keep up his strength while at work. [14:02]
Niko__ lol [14:02]
Niko__ thats one dextrous dick [14:04]
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mircea_popescu !up wallet42 [14:08]
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mircea_popescu fun fact re the old stork : milton berle was banned there. along with bogart. [14:08]
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mircea_popescu Once, while in attendance at a party, a guest made a comment about rape, and Bankhead reportedly replied, "I was raped in our driveway when I was eleven. You know darling, it was a terrible experience because we had all that gravel." [14:28]
mircea_popescu now why do i think "all about eve";s margo is drawn after bankhead ? [14:28]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [14:31]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 501.4, Best ask: 504.27, Bid-ask spread: 2.87000, Last trade: 504.33, 24 hour volume: 6672.75954235, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 504.895097955 [14:31]
thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe [14:31]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064207 BTC [+] [14:31]
mircea_popescu In 1933, Bankhead nearly died following a five-hour emergency hysterectomy due to venereal disease. Only 70 pounds (32 kg) when she left the hospital, she stoically said to her doctor, "Don't think this has taught me a lesson!" [14:34]
mircea_popescu apparently they took out her largest part. [14:34]
BingoBoingo It ended https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/25/ [14:34]
assbot Game 25 - Death 7104 Life 2896 Year 1000 - War of Life [14:34]
mircea_popescu %d [14:34]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 239819.71 in 1739 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.23 [14:34]
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fluffypony my ANX debit cards arrived [15:13]
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punkman fluffypony: how much paperwork did it take? [15:16]
punkman also, is their exchange any good? [15:17]
fluffypony not much, normal exchange verification stuff [15:17]
fluffypony plus they posted me a letter with a code to confirm my address on file [15:17]
fluffypony it seems decent - based out of Hong Kong, so that's their primary market [15:17]
fluffypony the cards are backed by a bank in Poland [15:17]
fluffypony mBank SA [15:18]
punkman interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. " [15:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00063931 = 9.7175 BTC [-] {2} [15:25]
RagnarDanneskjol ANX is good people. I know them personally. I'm pissed someone else got their card before me [15:27]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [15:35]
BingoBoingo ;;lasers [15:35]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [15:35]
wywialm fluffypony, is there any info on the mBank backing the ANX card? [15:35]
fluffypony wywialm: I actually have an account with them from a couple of years back, they're Polish [15:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00063661 = 11.268 BTC [-] {2} [15:37]
wywialm I know that mBank is Polish :) however, is it official that mBank backs this ANX card? [15:37]
BingoBoingo Oh, the things Jimmothy posts when he isn't persecuting mircea_popescu for being European https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg8507845#msg8507845 [15:40]
assbot [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs [15:40]
punkman think I've seen lots of people resell mbank debit cards [15:42]
punkman usually "anonymous" [15:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.293997 = 1.47 BTC [-] [15:43]
punkman fluffypony: if you already had an account with them, what's the benefit of the anx card? [15:44]
fluffypony punkman: I didn't realise that it was provided by mBank [15:44]
fluffypony this was just for fun and to have something lying around that I can load BTC on to and swipe if I really want to [15:44]
wywialm the ANX card is not anonymous, is it? [15:46]
fluffypony wywialm you have to verify your account with ANX [15:46]
fluffypony but the card is in their name [15:46]
fluffypony and verification is pretty loose [15:47]
wywialm thanks for the info [15:47]
BingoBoingo %ob [15:52]
atcbot 16k@250 2k@245 43k@221 | 95k@175 15k@170 125k@165 [15:52]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [16:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 502.65, Best ask: 504.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 502.63, 24 hour volume: 6750.38002864, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 515.95, 24 hour vwap: 505.080802734 [16:00]
thestringpuller is ticker down? [16:00]
thestringpuller oops [16:00]
thestringpuller XD [16:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.293998 = 0.882 BTC [+] [16:36]
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BingoBoingo Carp in an Eastern European commercial >> http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/2/4/306324_v1.gif [16:39]
BingoBoingo !up gernika [16:40]
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BingoBoingo Hello gernika [16:40]
gernika Hi [16:40]
BingoBoingo What brings you round these parts. (apologies If I've asked before, I drink) [16:42]
gernika Ah. Well, I'm interested in bitcoin. Been reading the logs for a few weeks now. [16:43]
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nubbins` oh, hm [16:43]
nubbins` !down Guest32652 [16:44]
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samO thx nubbins` [16:44]
nubbins` willkommen [16:45]
BingoBoingo Cool [16:45]
BingoBoingo %p [16:46]
atcbot No data returned from CoinMiner.net [16:46]
atcbot [PityThePool Hashrate]: 718.23 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [16:46]
thestringpuller %d [16:47]
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atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 240385.82 in 1737 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.20 [16:47]
thestringpuller LOL [16:47]
BingoBoingo %tslb [16:48]
atcbot 1 hour 0 minutes and 15 seconds [16:48]
BingoBoingo It's definitely moving [16:48]
BingoBoingo %t [16:48]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A [16:48]
thestringpuller lol whut??????? [16:48]
thestringpuller ;;tslb [16:48]
gribble Time since last block: 41 minutes and 14 seconds [16:48]
BingoBoingo Still stuck in that post dump price standoff [16:48]
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nubbins` woo, i've got enough aeroplan points for two round-trip tickets anywhere in north america [16:54]
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xmj congrats [16:56]
thestringpuller nubbins` wubbins [16:58]
thestringpuller nubbins`: the designer will email you with a signed message [17:00]
thestringpuller ;;gettrust petenineteen [17:00]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user petenineteen: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=petenineteen | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=petenineteen | Rated since: Wed Aug 20 22:28:26 2014 [17:00]
nubbins` tyvm for the pre-announcement 8) [17:00]
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thestringpuller ;;gettrust nubbins [17:01]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins | Rated since: never [17:01]
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pankkake ;;gettrust thestringpuller nubbins` [17:04]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 [17:04]
pankkake nubbins prime? [17:04]
thestringpuller yup [17:05]
pankkake or nubbins backtick [17:05]
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nubbins` backtick, i guess [17:09]
nubbins` i'm admittedly unsure [17:10]
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jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/price/ added BTC/gold to the grid and to the main price ticker [18:31]
assbot Bitcoin exchange price [18:31]
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thestringpuller interesting jborkl [18:33]
thestringpuller random question for you [18:33]
jborkl sure [18:33]
thestringpuller old mining hardware that becomes worthless to run as diff goes up [18:33]
thestringpuller is it best to throw it away [18:33]
thestringpuller or would their be a way to recycle the components in some kinda "liquidation event"? [18:33]
ben_vulpes forum'll apparently buy anything. [18:34]
kakobrekla yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma [18:34]
thestringpuller LOL kakobrekla [18:34]
jborkl mine is in the closet, the fpgas retained value since they could be retasked [18:34]
jborkl but current gen i think trash [18:34]
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thestringpuller I was just wondering because I used to do IT for a company that would buy large amounts of old CPU's, and sell them to recyclers who would extract precious metals from them. [18:35]
jborkl I am not sure on that one 100%, I don't think there is anything worth it [18:37]
jborkl but I do not really know, just looking at the ones under my desk and they look like trash [18:37]
jborkl heh [18:37]
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kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [18:38]
gribble Current Blocks: 317427 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 25928994612.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.74126 [18:38]
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thestringpuller that's so sad [18:41]
thestringpuller what a waste of silicon with such a limited lifespan.... [18:41]
ben_vulpes some of these bitcoin people are reminiscint of the french revolution. for a few weeks they thought they could completely redesign the whole universe. << that party did rewrite the rules, and bitcoin'll do the same. [18:41]
ben_vulpes (1500 lines behind...) [18:41]
pankkake uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out [18:45]
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artifexd ;;later tell mike_c Any thoughts on why S.MPOE has fallen off a cliff? [18:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:49]
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nubbins` http://imgur.com/R94Qmw0 [18:56]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [18:56]
nubbins` ^ just arrived in the mail :D [18:56]
pankkake nice [18:57]
pankkake was that expensive or did no one think about buying those? [18:57]
nubbins` they're very hard to find [18:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58037915 BTC to 14`987 shares, 10545 satoshi per share [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.54147348 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 221 satoshi per share [19:01]
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b00lcrap test [19:05]
ben_vulpes pong [19:05]
ben_vulpes ack [19:05]
ben_vulpes derp [19:05]
b00lcrap herp [19:05]
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TomServo nubbins`: Mind mentioning how/where you found it? [19:06]
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b00lcrap there was an Easter egg hunt? [19:10]
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nubbins` TomServo, got it from another collector :D [19:12]
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TheNewDeal !t m s.mpoe [19:15]
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Kamuela do you folks have a favorite crypto market? [19:15]
TheNewDeal krakken [19:15]
TheNewDeal it really kraks me up [19:15]
kakobrekla kraken is selective scam [19:16]
TheNewDeal I was reading an article the other day that the founder/owner created it after helping mark karpeles run mt gox [19:18]
TheNewDeal made me chuckle [19:18]
Kamuela trying to open chrome on mint... and nothing happens. it's like trying to start a car with a dead battery [19:18]
asciilifeform b00lcrap: this isn't how it works. gotta say something of substance. [19:19]
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b00lcrap haha [19:19]
b00lcrap im just observing [19:19]
b00lcrap so far i have said nothing [19:19]
b00lcrap mostly just idle. [19:20]
Kamuela I read the article on nakamotoinstitute that mentioned this channel [19:20]
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Kamuela got me all hoo-rah'd and so here I am [19:20]
TheNewDeal never heard of nakomotoinstitute [19:20]
TheNewDeal who wrote that [19:20]
Kamuela did I probably butcher the real name? lol let me try to get the link. give me a moment to delete my chrome profile... [19:20]
TomServo http://nakamotoinstitute.org/ [19:20]
assbot Satoshi Nakamoto Institute [19:21]
TomServo presumably [19:21]
TomServo Kamuela: But which article references b-a? [19:21]
Kamuela I'm trying to fix chrome so I can show you lol, the process refuses to die [19:21]
TomServo Gah, I forgot MP had an article there.. it was probably: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/gpg-contracts/ [19:23]
assbot GPG Contracts | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute [19:23]
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Kamuela http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/bitcoin-killer-of-nietzschean-nihilism/ [19:24]
assbot Bitcoin: Killer of Nietzschean Nihilism | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute [19:24]
TheNewDeal that's a bcp article [19:25]
TheNewDeal pete_d [19:25]
Duffer1 looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be [19:26]
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pankkake they're credited and were asked [19:28]
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TheNewDeal website is just a blog aggregator it looks like, also add in some "reading materials" [19:29]
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pankkake well, it's a human selection [19:29]
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TheNewDeal true true [19:35]
Kamuela TheNewDeal: is it? i was under the impression mempool was all original articles [19:35]
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Kamuela extremely exuberant pro-Bitcoin original articles lol [19:35]
TheNewDeal what do you mean by original articles? [19:36]
TheNewDeal about 3/4 of them are written by two of the site "Director of Research" or "Treasurer" [19:38]
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Duffer1 !up kamuela [19:42]
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Kamuela Duffer1: thank you [19:43]
Duffer1 ^.^ [19:43]
Kamuela TheNewDeal: we may be talking about two different things [19:43]
TheNewDeal http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/ [19:44]
assbot The Memory Pool | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute [19:44]
TheNewDeal that's what I'm talking about [19:44]
Kamuela ah yeah, same here. you said blog aggregator though, which is why i said that it seemed they were original articles, which they are, right? [19:45]
Kamuela not saying they're more than essays though or that the main focus of that area is lots of content [19:46]
TheNewDeal I was wondering what you considered an "original article" [19:47]
Kamuela content that wasn't republished from somewhere else. am i totally wrong? do all those cite their original sources? [19:49]
Kamuela figured they were born on the site [19:49]
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pankkake some of them were first published there yes [19:55]
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TheNewDeal the only article not written by the two site people is the one from pete_d [19:55]
mircea_popescu it seems decent - based out of Hong Kong, so that's their primary market the cards are backed by a bank in Poland << so weirdly contradictory. [19:56]
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fluffypony lol [19:56]
fluffypony it's prepaid debit cards [19:56]
fluffypony so it doesn't really matter who issues them :) [19:56]
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mircea_popescu no argument, it's just teh postmodernism [19:57]
thestringpuller ;;later tell mike_c seconded [19:57]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:57]
mircea_popescu punkman: [19:57]
mircea_popescu interesting "When a buy or sell order is submitted, the ANXBTC platform receives matching orders from an extensive number of buyers and sellers who have registered as part of the ANX Open Dealer Network. " << "we selftrade. deal with it" [19:57]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: What brings you round these parts. (apologies If I've asked before, I drink) << i'm stealin gthis one. [19:59]
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mircea_popescu nubbins`: tyvm for the pre-announcement 8) << it's out of this world how the guy does things innit. [20:01]
nubbins` "does" ;D [20:01]
mircea_popescu it's almost as if he spent too long working in some large corp and it... changed him. [20:02]
nubbins` one of the reasons why i got out while i still could [20:02]
nubbins` "jon, you're drowning this man in information" "oh fuck, you're right" [20:02]
TheNewDeal ;;calc 204310/(100*pi) [20:02]
gribble 650.338928462 [20:02]
nubbins` gallery: http://imgur.com/a/putkr [20:03]
assbot The Times January 3 2009 - Imgur [20:03]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: yeah, you can liquidate it by throwing it in hot magma << if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) it's probably not hot enough to liquidate Si. [20:03]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: what a waste of silicon with such a limited lifespan.... << one of the more abundant elements and what sand is made out of. i never thought i'd see one feel sorry ~for silicon~ [20:05]
mircea_popescu pankkake: uh, if Bitcoin is the French revolution, I'm out << the discussion was to amplitude. it is just as large an event. as i say there, it just happens to be going the other way, that's all. [20:05]
mircea_popescu Duffer1: looks like he was credited, but i can't tell what the website is supposed to be << best i can determine, it's aiming to be a b-a without the ba, predicated on the theory that you can somehow have ideologically neutral sources of power. [20:08]
mircea_popescu this is a lulzy proposition, but too complex a point to try and explain it. cheaper to just let people try and pick up the pieces later. [20:09]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: re: irc - perhaps the conformal servers? [20:25]
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Duffer1 !up kamuela [20:27]
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Kamuela Thank you Duffer1 [20:27]
Duffer1 sure man [20:27]
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penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/california-gold-rush-vs-bitcoin-mining-rush/ [20:28]
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ben_vulpes who is bcoinnews.com? [20:29]
pankkake jborkl [20:30]
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kakobrekla if you can throw things into it (-> air exposed) < that is your ASSumption . i didnt say lava. [20:32]
nubbins` AYYYOOOOO [20:33]
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nubbins` although this does bring us to the question of how you can throw things into magma [20:33]
nubbins` !up mpmcsweeney [20:34]
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* kakobrekla ponders how to get out of that one. [20:35]
kakobrekla ah i got it. [20:35]
nubbins` argon [20:35]
kakobrekla its an exercise to alert reader. [20:35]
nubbins` hm. [20:36]
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nubbins` suppose the molten rock is rising to the top of the cone, but has not yet reached it [20:36]
nubbins` still magma at this point? [20:37]
kakobrekla http://www.insidethevolcano.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Magma-Chamber-inside1.jpg [20:37]
* nubbins` nods [20:37]
kakobrekla yeah mp, we totaly pwnd you. next time just say lol! [20:39]
nubbins` but would it melt Si! [20:39]
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kakobrekla that is not even the point for a while now. [20:42]
nubbins` fair enough [20:42]
nubbins` meantime, your 5 posters should be printed and mailed out within the next week or so [20:43]
kakobrekla cool [20:44]
Kamuela i'm trying to figure out the best way to crowdfund a bitcoin project. i really want to give equity and profit-sharing because i think anything else is BS [20:47]
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Kamuela thank you kakobrekla [20:58]
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kakobrekla what is the project about? [20:58]
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Kamuela briefly, a bitcoin work market a la odesk. development team ready [21:01]
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kakobrekla and you need capital for ? [21:02]
Kamuela kakobrekla: MVP development [21:04]
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kakobrekla who are you/your team? [21:05]
Kamuela I'm in talks with differential to do it in the meteor framework [21:06]
Kamuela http://differential.io [21:06]
assbot Differential | We Build Big Ideas [21:06]
Kamuela lol [21:06]
kakobrekla so you wanna be the ceo and pay someone to code something up? [21:06]
kakobrekla but to pay you need get capital. [21:07]
kakobrekla am i missing something? [21:07]
Kamuela i could attempt to develop it myself, but my skills there are really crap. i have designs and nearing full use cases for the MVP [21:08]
Kamuela yes, you've got it [21:08]
thestringpuller so you come to us #b-a this the day of our daughter's wedding [21:08]
Kamuela i'd like to keep it within bitcoin's community and equity based because everything else is a crock of sh** honestly. it's not fair to give people merchandise and coupons for something that's going to generate revenue [21:09]
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kakobrekla ok so who are you and what makes you think you are theoretically capable of running such a thing? [21:10]
Kamuela and for it to be truly competitive to something like odesk, it will need to be flexible enough to establish itself in an overseas jurisdiction only when completely necessary. meaning dealing in USD first and setting up a bank account makes it legally complex from the getgo [21:10]
Kamuela someone who shares the interests of many for a Bitcoin work market, a go-to for both supplemental and potentially off-grid lifestyles [21:11]
Kamuela why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy [21:12]
kakobrekla how is it decentralized? [21:13]
Kamuela initially it isn't, it's a single-server application. but ultimately i will seek to develop many methods of access via alternate and distributed networks [21:14]
Kamuela the technology isn't decentralized first, but the idea that anyone can offer services and receive Bitcoin as compensation is the most decentralized of all exchanges, imo [21:14]
Kamuela you're always subject to a bank at a cash exchange [21:14]
Kamuela you also need to solve the problem of "what is Bitcoin useful for" [21:15]
abathingape http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2eh2du/with_the_mtgox_fiasco_being_long_forgotten_mark/ck058mn?context=3 [21:16]
assbot trixisowned comments on With the mtgox fiasco being long forgotten, Mark Karpeles launches a new business, "forever.net" selling VPS, VoIP & dedicated servers: bitcoin is NOT accepted. [21:16]
abathingape kekeke [21:16]
Kamuela speculating? that's it? one of the biggest uses of currency is in transaction and the building of capital. we have some stock markets and that's great and will continue to grow along with 2.0 uses, but as a currency it needs to facilitate real trade [21:16]
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Kamuela the superniche initial target market are just Bitcoin supporters and enthusiasts, but ultimately it can compete with something like odesk by undercutting its fees especially as in many places getting into Bitcoin is getting ridiculously easy, meaning obtaining it [21:17]
Kamuela getting out is a bit harder, but something the initial contractors will shoulder voluntarily [21:18]
kakobrekla still dont know who you are. [21:18]
Kamuela who should I be? as a serious question [21:19]
kakobrekla ok, so this is me: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla [21:19]
assbot Rating Details for User 'kakobrekla' [21:19]
kakobrekla who are you? [21:19]
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Kamuela kakobrekla: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=126219604 [21:20]
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assbot Sign Up | LinkedIn [21:20]
kakobrekla sez enter username and password [21:20]
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Kamuela are linkedin profiles not public? [21:21]
kakobrekla nfi [21:21]
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Kamuela kakobrekla: does this also require a login? http://lnkd.in/bA2NERy [21:22]
assbot Kamuela Franco | LinkedIn [21:22]
kakobrekla works [21:23]
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mod6 ;;seen moiety [21:26]
gribble moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 10 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: manuls for all! :] [21:26]
kakobrekla Kamuela well anyway, i can only show you the door, you are the one who has to step through it; http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [21:27]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [21:27]
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kakobrekla (fyi i send everyone there, even ninjashogun - bad cases get slaughtered sooner or later) [21:30]
kakobrekla !up Kamuela [21:30]
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kakobrekla also this is you? http://web.archive.org/web/20120801003219/http://kamuelafranco.com/ [21:35]
assbot Idealism Personified - KamuelaFranco.com [21:35]
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Kamuela kakobrekla: thank you, man, for both the voice and that [21:38]
Kamuela kakobrekla: it was me, but i've had that domain for years and years (previously) and some of the older stuff definitely reflects being 11 years old! [21:39]
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TheNewDeal is moiety ded? [21:40]
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kakobrekla TheNewDeal she left for undetermined amounts of t-matter. [21:42]
TomServo TheNewDeal: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2014#788458 [21:42]
assbot Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36; moiety: I really didn't know what to say yesterday but I've had time to think now. I will leave the phone line on for the remainder of the term when I can and update the blog but I won't be able to be on IRC. Since I won't be on IRC anymore, if there is anything I should really know, please leave a message on skype or the blog. The reasons being, this isn't working out for me and I need to focus on [21:42]
TomServo Woah, that's new right? [21:43]
kakobrekla it sez right there, Logged on 10-08-2014 11:09:36 [21:43]
TomServo I mean assbot quoting the actual log entry [21:44]
kakobrekla a. [21:44]
kakobrekla 2 days. [21:44]
TomServo Cool. [21:44]
BingoBoingo Guess who just had the Feds knock on their door! [21:44]
kakobrekla lol [21:44]
kakobrekla did you give them cookies? [21:44]
BingoBoingo Nah, Just let them in on all of my nothing I knew about a connection they suspected between DBordello's BTCPack and The Silk Road [21:46]
TomServo Or Gin and Tonic at least? [21:46]
BingoBoingo Nope, we stood in the front yard and talked [21:46]
BingoBoingo In the heat [21:46]
kakobrekla SR, really? [21:47]
kakobrekla still ? [21:47]
BingoBoingo I tried to explain the stupid Devcoin thing I used to get Bitcoins. [21:47]
BingoBoingo Yes, asking about the Silk Road [21:48]
Duffer1 did they ask about your own bitcoin holdings? [21:48]
Duffer1 or was it all SR? [21:48]
BingoBoingo It was all TSR and possible connections between it and BTCPak [21:48]
TheNewDeal going to have to look up this btcpak [21:49]
Duffer1 yea never heard of that one [21:49]
BingoBoingo It was a site, you send Bitcoin they sent prepaid reload codes. [21:49]
BingoBoingo DBordello ran it [21:50]
BingoBoingo At the time CoinBase wasn't a thing I'd heard of [21:50]
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Duffer1 i wonder what makes them believe there's a connection [21:51]
BingoBoingo It was an Pasty Irish FBI agent who didn't want to stand in the sun and a Treasury agent [21:51]
BingoBoingo Duffer1: They said because it looks so anonymous. [21:51]
Duffer1 ....... [21:52]
TheNewDeal what the hell does that mean? [21:52]
* BingoBoingo is thankful he managed to avoid the whole Silk Road thing. [21:52]
Duffer1 american enforcement mentality [21:52]
Duffer1 black guy in hoody in winter? lets search him [21:52]
TheNewDeal looks anonymous! [21:53]
BingoBoingo Hi Agent Broachwala and/or your colleagues! [21:53]
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TheNewDeal did they mean it looks Anonymous? [21:53]
Duffer1 ohh [21:53]
BingoBoingo Seriously the kept saying suggesting everything in the Bitcoin was shady Tor related stuff. [21:54]
BingoBoingo Black Markets and all that. [21:54]
TheNewDeal if we can't trace it exactly... it's gotta be underground [21:55]
BingoBoingo They were like no one uses Bitcoin actually at Overstock.com ; I'm like... actually I totally bought a watch and some other shit http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/13/overstock-com-prolly-not-a-scam/ [21:56]
assbot Overstock.com: Prolly not a scam | Bingo Blog [21:56]
TheNewDeal did they give you a decent exchange rate [21:56]
Duffer1 i bought a handmade spalted mable/bubinga keepsake box for bitcoin on saturday [21:57]
BingoBoingo TheNewDeal: BTCPak was kind of a Gyp, but at the time it was the only thing that really.... Seemed reliable [21:57]
BingoBoingo Without taking days. [21:57]
TheNewDeal gotcha [21:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27631 @ 0.00064393 = 17.7924 BTC [+] [21:58]
BingoBoingo The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road [21:58]
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TheNewDeal it's true, all unkempt hair & bearders at one time used the silk road [22:01]
TheNewDeal !up kamuela [22:01]
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* BingoBoingo did not spot where they had a actually parked their Gasenwagen [22:03]
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Kamuela TheNewDeal: thank you [22:07]
TheNewDeal everybody gets one [22:07]
BingoBoingo These agents apparently came all the way down from fucking Peoria, the one's card says. [22:08]
BingoBoingo ARE THERE NO FBI OR TREASURY AGENTS IN ST LOUIS. [22:08]
BingoBoingo They were prolly so insistent because it would suck to be them and drive all of the way down here to meet with a person as boring as myself. [22:09]
TheNewDeal hahaha [22:10]
TheNewDeal we're SURE you're more eccentric [22:10]
BingoBoingo !up mike_c_on_the_ro [22:10]
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mike_c_on_the_ro thanks. [22:10]
BingoBoingo I'm like if you want to talk shady sports betting sites that ran with user money... I know a couple. Fucking bitcoinsports.eu [22:11]
mike_c_on_the_ro mod6:;;later tell mike_c need help with WoL << what can I do you for? [22:11]
ben_vulpes Rating entry successful. Your rating for user danielpbarron has changed from 8 to -1. << now that's nuts. 8 to -1? you people need to move more slowly with your ratings. [22:11]
mike_c_on_the_ro ;;seen mod6 [22:12]
gribble mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 45 minutes and 40 seconds ago: ;;seen moiety [22:12]
mod6 check on game 700 [22:12]
mike_c_on_the_ro goddamnit. ok, will do. [22:12]
mod6 heh, no worries. just a heads up from this weekend. [22:13]
BingoBoingo The shitty thing about the ordeal on them asking about the goddamned Silk Road I didn't use was their knocking woke me up from my day-slumber [22:13]
mike_c_on_the_ro just frustrating, i thought i had that fixed. [22:13]
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BingoBoingo So I'm looking like a fucking sweaty unkempt hobo meeting with these guys in the front lawn. [22:14]
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BingoBoingo Really weird thing was the Agents suggesting that I'd never expect them to find me. I DON"T WORK THAT HARD TO KEEP ANONYMOUS. I just do the minimum to keep poor kids in shitholes from harassing me into giving them money. [22:21]
TheNewDeal love it [22:23]
BingoBoingo My impression of them before the badges cam out was they might be process servers come to harass me over student load debt. [22:23]
BingoBoingo *loan [22:23]
mike_c_on_the_ro you going to immortalize them in a blog post? [22:25]
mike_c_on_the_ro !t m s.mpoe [22:25]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062893 / 0.00063788 / 0.00064393 (698020 shares, 445.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00062821 / 0.00065441 / 0.00070855 (4353254 shares, 2,848.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00062821 / 0.00076768 / 0.00094217 (18927544 shares, 14,530.40 BTC) [22:25]
BingoBoingo mike_c_on_the_ro: Prolly. After I take a shower. [22:25]
BingoBoingo I was fucking hot outside. [22:26]
thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe [22:28]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064393 BTC [+] [22:28]
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BingoBoingo Also Hollywood lied. The FBI agent was wearing a black business suit, but instead a white polo and khakis. [22:32]
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* BingoBoingo wonders how much time they will invest in trying to figure out the Devcoin thing [22:35]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [22:40]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 504.44, vol: 5556.89140818 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 501.451, vol: 2201.41425 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 502.45, vol: 7039.32678866 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 532.99, vol: 13.94734986 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 500.452875, vol: 14642.32000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 516.11742, vol: 27.56 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 515.885399987, vol: 28.27053224 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [22:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.01173226 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {5} [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 86 @ 0.01175 = 1.0105 BTC [+] [22:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15078 @ 0.00064715 = 9.7577 BTC [+] {2} [23:01]
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thestringpuller ;;later tell tylander sup [23:02]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:02]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: taleb << asciilifeform of course, who else? [23:03]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: guy's what, 60 by now ? << born 1960 it seems [23:04]
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pete_dushenski asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, you read Kvant ?!?! << who is this man, what sort of devil is he? [23:05]
pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#comment-106551 [23:06]
assbot How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [23:06]
pete_dushenski decimation: asciilifeform: "it pattern-matches 'derp' and throws my concentration" << yeah I have the same experience. << you gents need better filters! [23:07]
thestringpuller ;;google GTA V original music [23:08]
gribble The Music of Grand Theft Auto V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Grand Theft Auto V soundtrack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Music of Grand Theft Auto V: Three Volume Digital Album Now ...: (1 more message) [23:08]
thestringpuller Damn i need to play this game again [23:09]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: decimation so taleb's mistake is that he's being a BANAL asshole ? << he does get a lot of the "o this is nothing new" retort [23:09]
pete_dushenski xanthyos: ;;rate danielpbarron -1 fickle with his friends, uses the bible to justify being disloyal << o_O drama [23:13]
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Duffer1 Amazon aquired Twitch [23:13]
mike_c_on_the_ro mod6: fixed.. going to dig into root cause when I get home. sorry for the hiccup. [23:14]
mod6 no prob! thanks! [23:14]
jborkl http://www.coindesk.com/black-market-cannabis-road-hacked-loses-100000-bitcoin/ [23:14]
assbot Black Market Cannabis Road Hacked, $100,000 in Bitcoin Lost [23:14]
jborkl :/ [23:14]
jborkl really come on now [23:14]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: there is a saying: Loyalty to the End do you know what it means? [23:15]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: sure [23:15]
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jborkl oh, they were hit by the 1cat burglar [23:18]
jborkl not to be mistaken with the 1 ham burglar [23:19]
jurov re: melting Si - can't the purified Si monocrystal substrate reused to make another IC? asciilifeform what do you think? [23:21]
jurov *be [23:21]
kakobrekla well, given enough energy everything can be made into anything [23:23]
thestringpuller i shouldn't have said specifically Si, but more like the gold and silver also stored in the IC's [23:23]
pete_dushenski Kamuela: you also need to solve the problem of "what is Bitcoin useful for" << classic. like SDRs should buy tacos nao [23:23]
thestringpuller ;;ud SDR [23:24]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SDR | An abbreviation meaning stop, drop and roll. Used to comment on pictures that are particularly hot. "Woah, sdr coz u look hot!" by deldo July 11, 2008. 5 4. Merch . [23:24]
thestringpuller not thinking that's the right one [23:25]
thestringpuller thinking* [23:25]
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TomServo special drawing rights [23:25]
pete_dushenski Kamuela: why am i the one? because i'm committed to keeping it useful for people as far as it can be taken. i'm not looking to grow and sell out. my interests are aligned with keeping it one of the most decentralized ways to act in the BTC economy << "committed" is in no way a skill as it's here presented any more than a grade school student is committed to not getting an F. [23:26]
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pete_dushenski Kamuela: not looking to sell out? 1) why not? 2) tough thing to prove [23:26]
pete_dushenski at least he came to the right place [23:26]
kakobrekla not too long ago someone pasted how its more about location than your cast. [23:27]
pete_dushenski kakobrekla: the selling out bit or the committed bit? [23:29]
TomServo !up Kamuela [23:29]
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kakobrekla the right pace bit :D [23:29]
Kamuela thank you TomServo [23:29]
kakobrekla place* [23:29]
Kamuela pete_dushenski: who else is committed? have you heard of another project to do this? i'd be both willing to contribute and cease competitive efforts if you could point me in that direction [23:30]
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Kamuela and a better question would be: why would I be crowdfunding if i didn't see marginal success somewhere else? it's usually cheaper to get funding within your own circle [23:30]
Kamuela far from being combative, i'm looking to understand where you're coming from [23:31]
Kamuela it must be that every member of ethereum has a long history of proven success right? [23:31]
Kamuela many less tangible projects have gotten ridiculous levels of funding, and i am DOING the legwork to make this happen. so when you ask what qualifies me, well, it's because i'm the guy DOING something [23:32]
Kamuela because i'm the guy here asking [23:32]
kakobrekla funny you mention ethereum. [23:32]
Kamuela yeah maybe it's a bad thing to mention, i don't want to be lumped into that "ether" [23:33]
kakobrekla !s chumpatron [23:33]
* BingoBoingo was kind of disappointed that the Feds addressed me by my slave name [23:33]
assbot 99 results for 'chumpatron' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chumpatron [23:33]
TomServo BingoBoingo: I would've been thrilled if they used Atruk instead of BingoBoingo. :P [23:33]
ThickAsThieves http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-to-buy-live-stream-gaming-site-twitch/ poor Twitch, not even worth an Instagram [23:33]
assbot Amazon to buy live-stream gaming site Twitch for $970M - CNET [23:33]
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TomServo Wow. Bezos stole'd it. [23:34]
pete_dushenski Kamuela: http://contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ [23:34]
assbot A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski [23:34]
punkman BingoBoingo: did they say "BingoBoingo" at any point? [23:34]
ThickAsThieves twitch accepts bitcoin, so now youll see "Amazon adding Bitcoin" on reddit for 2 days [23:34]
ThickAsThieves watch this fuck up my short... [23:34]
pete_dushenski Kamuela: it must be that every member of ethereum has a long history of proven success right? << it must be nothing of the sort and is in fact quite that [23:34]
pete_dushenski but read the ethereum piece [23:35]
punkman he was going for sarcasm ^ [23:35]
BingoBoingo punkman: no [23:35]
Kamuela I was indeed being sarcastic [23:36]
BingoBoingo TomServo: They asked for my forum name and I gave it to them after some reluctance [23:36]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo was kind of disappointed that the Feds addressed me by my slave name << lmao [23:36]
pete_dushenski Kamuela: either way, there's really no rush to get your idea off the ground [23:36]
pete_dushenski to do it well, you'd be well served to get in the wot and spend the next 6-12 months reading every line of logs and getting to know the people around here [23:37]
Kamuela well, I'll ftfy: "either way, there's really no rush for I, pete_dushenski, to help get your idea off the ground" [23:37]
punkman Kamuela, having some experience in the matter, I'd recommend against copying the odesks and the elances [23:37]
Kamuela punkman: how so? [23:37]
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Kamuela punkman: not necessarily your experience, but i mean what are you recommending against in particular [23:37]
punkman just take everythign they do, and do it the opposite way [23:38]
pete_dushenski brb [23:38]
punkman that might work [23:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1640 @ 0.00068997 = 1.1316 BTC [-] {3} [23:38]
Kamuela punkman: lmao, i don't exactly follow [23:38]
Kamuela certainly as a competitor to existing odesk businesses, the project will shape itself around the interests of its customers. but what initially or conceptually is wrong with the odesk style? [23:39]
punkman everything [23:39]
Kamuela for example, it seems so far from my interviews that something people really like is the guaranteed payment... something that this project would NOT be offering for at least a while. it certainly would not be part of the MVP [23:39]
Kamuela of course that's a bit of laziness on the part of vetting your customer, but i understand that what i call laziness other people call serving needs, which I completely respect the need to do [23:40]
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ThickAsThieves people always enjoy promises that cant be kept [23:45]
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TomServo Pff. Schneier says "Matthew Green has a good post on what's wrong with PGP and what should be done about it." (with link of course) [23:46]
TomServo First comment: Did you have to fight the urge to call it a "pretty good post"? [23:46]
punkman ThickAsThieves: it'd be nice if there was someone playing matchmaker, vetting both sides, guaranteeing whatever he can afford to [23:47]
punkman don't even need a website [23:47]
ThickAsThieves well agents arent cheap [23:47]
ThickAsThieves nor sclable [23:47]
punkman odesk takes 10% [23:47]
ThickAsThieves scalable [23:48]
Kamuela and offers no escrow [23:48]
punkman don't need to scale [23:48]
Kamuela and addresses an $80 mil market [23:48]
ThickAsThieves surely bigger than $80m no? [23:48]
Kamuela with inferior financial technology [23:48]
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ThickAsThieves "Cops found this wanted Nebraska man after he posted his Ice Bucket Challenge on Facebook." [23:49]
Kamuela the first couple thousand users on a Bitcoin-powered odesk are going to be BTC enthusiasts and folks looking to play around, meaning a release valve for pent-up demand for use of coins, and of course a dedicated following of people who want to try to make supplemental or full-time income doing btc freelance work [23:50]
Kamuela but after that there's a real competitive advantage to 10% and a couple days turn around time and <10% and 1 hour turnaround [23:51]
Kamuela especially when you factor in the fact that a bunch of the initial contractors are going to underprice in an attempt to gain customers, there's a real value proposition to a competing network [23:51]
Kamuela and odesk "just accepting Bitcoin" is a bigger deal with any real thought [23:52]
Kamuela meaning there's a whole lot of inertia to fight to make that happen [23:52]
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Kamuela and how are they going to address a cheaper and lower-hassle competitor even with Bitcoin? will they openly say jobs paid in bitcoin are discounted? i don't think they could do that [23:53]
Kamuela ThickAsThieves: I don't know about the actual total market, but just odesk takes in $80mm [23:53]
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ThickAsThieves isnt someone already working on this? [23:55]
ThickAsThieves Hearn, Popescu, etc [23:55]
punkman there's a few dozens of them [23:55]
punkman Kamuela, I think your plan is to make it prettier and with more javascripts? [23:56]
Kamuela there's a real potential to help me out in one way or another, but isn't it boring to make words and contribute nothing? [23:58]
punkman you can help yourself by reading teh logs [23:58]
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Kamuela i don't mind the real questions, kakobrekla addressed a serious point of "who are you?" that's a real question that has to be answered [23:58]
nubbins` ;;view 21349 [23:58]
gribble #21349 Mon Aug 25 13:40:55 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", limited edition of 45 available to public, 4-color silkscreen print on acid-free paper, pre-order price only. Shipping week of August 31.) [23:59]
Duffer1 b-a are generally firm believers in the Eddy Murphie method of help [23:59]
Kamuela Eddy or charlie? [23:59]
ThickAsThieves Kamuela is asking for help? [23:59]
Duffer1 er charlie right :P [23:59]
Kamuela Haha [23:59]
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ThickAsThieves !up Kamuela [23:59]
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Kamuela Meaning breaking my legs for learning [23:59]
Kamuela :P [23:59]
kakobrekla Kamuela that linkedin isnt much to go by. [23:59]
TomServo nubbins`: Is there a photo or sample of the poster? [23:59]
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