Forum logs for 24 Nov 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mod6 Hi mircea_popescu [00:06]
mod6 lol, i racked up like 1500 low qual grass lastnight [00:07]
mircea_popescu o hey check this out, it sorta looks like that tempest-storm-whateverthefuck nsa server fucked up. [00:08]
mircea_popescu so i come back to find that xchat is seeking permission to download "sol.desktop", supposedly a 498 byte file sent by someone from... 192.168.0.29 (port 50234). [00:09]
mircea_popescu the only problem is that address doesn't map to any machine, nor could it. [00:09]
mircea_popescu anyone seen anything like this ? [00:09]
mod6 ctcp spoof? [00:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pwned router ? [00:10]
mircea_popescu mod6 i suspect so. [00:10]
danielpbarron mod6, you selling it? [00:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform .0 would asctually be the ISP provided modem. [00:10]
asciilifeform (and, if your lan is actually 192.168.* - possibly other box owned) [00:10]
mircea_popescu my lan is .168.n. [00:10]
mircea_popescu obviously. [00:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: care to post the payload ? [00:10]
mircea_popescu well no, i'm not instrumented to extract any payloads. [00:11]
asciilifeform the 498 bt [00:11]
mircea_popescu yes, that. [00:11]
asciilifeform ah, didn't actually load. ok [00:11]
mircea_popescu well doh. [00:11]
asciilifeform i'd have loaded. this sorta nugget is worth having to douse a box in petrol [00:11]
mod6 <+danielpbarron> mod6, you selling it? << sure. atm ive got my hands full tho. maybe in like 30-45 mins? [00:12]
danielpbarron i'll be here [00:12]
mircea_popescu from what i can see this'd be some sort of "server for linux" or whatevs. [00:13]
mircea_popescu course, what's in a name. [00:13]
asciilifeform or >> https://github.com/kikinovak/matebuntu/blob/master/12.04/cleanmenu/desktop/sol.desktop << 'solitaire' [00:13]
assbot matebuntu/sol.desktop at master · kikinovak/matebuntu · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1YqHez8 ) [00:13]
mircea_popescu solitaire ?! [00:13]
asciilifeform turns out, exists! thx to poettering et al [00:14]
mircea_popescu what is this, insults ? [00:14]
mircea_popescu the supa-secret INSULTINGPAYLOADS programme [00:14]
mircea_popescu o hey check it out, the key to driving mass linux adoption was copying minesweeper and solitaire, who knew. [00:15]
asciilifeform turns out that game where you crushed billgates heads with penguin fist was not enough... [00:15]
mircea_popescu that thing disappeared did it [00:15]
asciilifeform haven't seen it on a box in almost 20yrs [00:15]
* DCC RECV sol.desktop to chetty aborted. [00:16]
asciilifeform but who knows, somewhere, it awaits [00:16]
mircea_popescu https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/192.168.0.29/information/ not much there really. some derpy windows virus, various smartphone crapolade. [00:20]
asciilifeform eh vt will list anybody who walked the lan [00:20]
asciilifeform and hit that addr [00:20]
mircea_popescu only about a dozen or so items [00:21]
mircea_popescu (files that embed this string) [00:21]
* asciilifeform knows far more than any sane person would wish to re: vt, having sat on a $100K/y all-you-can-eat subscription for the latter [00:21]
mircea_popescu ok, but i mean specifically "who the fuck embeds this ip" [00:21]
asciilifeform if anybody here has a current vt subscription, i'd like the samples, thx [00:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: most of the vt links are 'android' turds, vs winblowz [00:24]
mircea_popescu i jus' said that! [00:24]
asciilifeform ah hm [00:24]
asciilifeform you did, didntcha [00:25]
* asciilifeform awake for far too long [00:25]
mircea_popescu "Your proposition may be good, but let's have one thing understood — whatever it is, I'm against it! And even when you've changed it or condensed it, I'm against it!" [00:25]
* asciilifeform saw derpitudes that nobody would believe if told. [00:25]
mircea_popescu maybe the best couplet in the history of english lolzedy. [00:25]
mircea_popescu anyone seen horsefeathers ? [00:25]
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mircea_popescu http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing << this is pretty interesting. the idea being, and i cite, "The trope has also become increasingly important in more traditional fiction as of late because the Internet's technological revolution is such that an author's "twists" could easily be predicted ahead of time if enough clever fans put their heads together and talk things over. (And over.) " [00:33]
assbot Wild Mass Guessing - TV Tropes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PL8ZAQ ) [00:33]
mod6 danielpbarron: ok, wanna meet me in town? [00:34]
mircea_popescu this is an interesting problem to have. one edge of it could be readily dismissed as "well obviously if you can't write so instead of writing you substitute copywriting as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-11-2015#1330345 & all, imonlydoingmyjob bla bla you will be predictable, after all copywriting is designed to work much like computer codewriting : others gotta be able to pick up your job once you quit" [00:34]
assbot Logged on 23-11-2015 20:26:41; mircea_popescu: "What often deters writers from going through with the above plan is the fact that, well, Most Writers Are Writers. They're writing a character who's supposed to be a musician, but they don't know the particulars of meters or chords. They have a character who is a military expert, but they don't know how long an infantry division can fight until it needs to be resupplied. They have a [00:34]
mircea_popescu but the other edge is to observe that fiction HAS to be predictable specifically because it isn't nonfiction. there not being a reality to feed from other than what emerges from the fact that the reader can follow, you're stuck. [00:35]
mircea_popescu jesus who knew fiction is a doomed entreprise. this would actually make literature not art, outright. [00:36]
asciilifeform fucking is also fairly predictable.. [00:36]
asciilifeform as is dinner [00:36]
mircea_popescu who knew the problem apelles of kos dealt with is actually much broader than just an annoying shoemaker. [00:36]
asciilifeform (most people know how digestion ends) [00:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform physiology is also not art. [00:36]
asciilifeform the culinary folk have notions of art, no ? [00:37]
mircea_popescu but that's cooking not digestion. [00:37]
* mircea_popescu agrees with the general frenchypoof notion of the pre-mitterand years that cooking is indeed an art and mssr duchemin rightfully accepted in the academy. [00:39]
mod6 And yeah, BingoBoingo, Hemingway was an ambulance driver, wounded on the Italian front, so the story goes. He wrote about it in A Farewell To Arms. [00:39]
asciilifeform mr h's most notable achievement was, iirc, having bred a breed of cat with opposable fingers [00:40]
asciilifeform they still exist today, somewhere. [00:41]
mod6 huh [00:41]
asciilifeform http://www.hemingwayhome.com/cats [00:41]
assbot hemingwayhome.com | Cats ... ( http://bit.ly/1PL9sD8 ) [00:41]
mod6 Did you ever read A Natural History Of The Dead - short story? [00:41]
asciilifeform nein [00:42]
asciilifeform these creatures, it is said, can open doors. [00:42]
mod6 wow, look at that. thing has a thumb. [00:43]
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mod6 anyway, i dunno, for me its a toss up between For Whom The Bell Tolls & A Farewell To Arms. [00:44]
trinque my ex had two of these, and yeah they can use them [00:44]
trinque could pick up food in their palms them eat [00:44]
danielpbarron mod6, ya I'm almost there [00:45]
trinque the thumbs aren't very strong, but hey, it's a start [00:45]
mod6 danielpbarron: ah cool [00:45]
mircea_popescu check that out, cat chipmunks [00:46]
asciilifeform chipmunk has thumbs ? [00:47]
mircea_popescu well it does funny things holding its food to eat [00:47]
asciilifeform rodents typically gotta use both paws to hold the food [00:48]
asciilifeform because no thumbs [00:48]
punkman trinque: could pick up food in their palms them eat < they don't need extra finger for that [00:48]
trinque maybe not [00:48]
trinque BingoBoingo: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/24/article-1280781-09B6EBA7000005DC-563_468x453.jpg << check out this fat fuck [00:49]
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mircea_popescu this is true [00:53]
kakobrekla couple of weeks ago i saw a pig so fat he could not see anything for last 2 years [00:53]
punkman fat eyelids? [00:54]
kakobrekla eyes overgrown wit fat [00:55]
kakobrekla have a pic from 2012 when vision still worked hold on [00:56]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/E/bl/41fGmeuI/veso.jpg [00:57]
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kakobrekla too bad i didnt take another. [00:58]
mod6 wow [00:58]
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mircea_popescu can smell. [00:59]
kakobrekla he wont move unless you break a pumpkin in front of him [01:00]
asciilifeform 2y is a long time for a pig, no ? [01:00]
kakobrekla dunno, this one is a pet. [01:00]
asciilifeform ah [01:00]
kakobrekla ill take another shot if its still alive on my next visit [01:02]
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mircea_popescu in other news, couch anemone! http://49.media.tumblr.com/598efa61437511a4a5ee1f50c697290e/tumblr_n8y26qIwKK1rl45flo1_500.gif [01:22]
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mircea_popescu http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/RogerEbert << check that out, apparently tvtropes thinks ebert is not only worth the mention, but actually a big deal. somehow. [01:34]
assbot Roger Ebert (Creator) - TV Tropes ... ( http://bit.ly/1TbqwRn ) [01:34]
mircea_popescu did the guy EVER write something worth reading ? [01:34]
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mircea_popescu http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3752834 << guess who meanwhile became a shittier version of reddit. [01:40]
assbot I need some legal advice, because my roommate is a paranoid imbecile! - The Something Awful Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1TbqSrc ) [01:40]
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asciilifeform dafuq [01:42]
mircea_popescu oh, and since we're it, the definitive example of the relationship between trilema and "the romanian blogosphere" : http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/ on 20 oct ; http://www.piticigratis.com/2015/11/in-continuare-esti-inconjurat-de-idioti-si-ce-inseamna-asta-pentru-tine/ on nov 20th. [01:42]
assbot Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1M69PXV ) [01:42]
assbot În continuare ești înconjurat de idioți (și ce înseamnă asta pentru tine) | Pitici Gratis ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2sTqs ) [01:43]
asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/blog/502.html << have a bit of relaxing gulagiana. [01:43]
assbot Экспедиция "ГУЛАГ. Стройка №501." День 6. / Блог пользователя / Геоблоги ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2sWT4 ) [01:43]
mircea_popescu other than the same-day homage thing, i would guess between half and two thirds of every romanian blog is either a straight lift, a bad translation or a more or less hacky adaptation of either current or historical trilema. [01:43]
mircea_popescu i dunno that anyone who isn't born in a minor culture can ever enjoy this situation of "i am the only literate one of my people. literally." [01:44]
asciilifeform engl.-speaking folks can enjoy 'i am the only literate for radius of ten thousand li' [01:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dun get it, some hiking blog ? [01:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: diggers [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166900 @ 0.00050607 = 84.4631 BTC [+] {5} [01:46]
mircea_popescu the two man saw is pretty clever. [01:46]
mircea_popescu and really, the vegetation of deep russia is stunnignlyt beautiful. [01:47]
asciilifeform looking for, and sometimes finding, reasonably intact barracks, construction equip, various odds'n'ends of life [01:47]
asciilifeform and yes. [01:47]
hanbot mircea_popescu are they still opining about how you're "illegal"? [01:47]
mircea_popescu lol remember that time when i invented stickers and everyone got crazy butthurt ? [01:47]
mircea_popescu fucktards, seriously, what was that, 2009 ? [01:47]
hanbot yep. [01:47]
mircea_popescu simple man's playbook. 1. OH NO THIS IS BAD ; 2. gotta do it too ; 3. we've always done it this way. [01:48]
mircea_popescu can go through the whole playbook in three years and STILL feign to not be aware who's daddy. [01:48]
asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/01/07/65afa2.jpg << locomotive brake cover. german, 1941. [01:48]
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hanbot mircea_popescu you forgot a step for pufuleti i mean profit [01:49]
mircea_popescu o hey, smokeshack. [01:49]
mircea_popescu does that say smokshack ? [01:49]
mircea_popescu that's the worst layouyt for one i ever saw and wtf is with the window [01:49]
asciilifeform where [01:49]
mircea_popescu foto 184 [01:49]
asciilifeform larder. [01:50]
mircea_popescu http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2011/11/02/9f1a82.jpg << ahaha great, ex-barrels. [01:50]
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asciilifeform wires with hooks for hanging meat, fish. [01:50]
asciilifeform author notes 'also often found in chambers for smoking meat and fish.' [01:50]
mircea_popescu ah ok [01:50]
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asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/blog/502.html << rails circa 1879. [01:53]
assbot Экспедиция "ГУЛАГ. Стройка №501." День 6. / Блог пользователя / Геоблоги ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2sWT4 ) [01:53]
BingoBoingo have a pic from 2012 when vision still worked hold on << That's some pig [01:53]
asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/01/08/869acc.jpg << rather [01:53]
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mircea_popescu handrolled steel eh [01:54]
mircea_popescu but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/2103ff3ef5fc48ecdf0d54bbe0d6e716/tumblr_npl1x4xk4a1qc2yxpo1_1280.jpg [01:59]
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asciilifeform 3rg0n0m1c [02:00]
mircea_popescu derps dunno how to detach the foot of a lcd panel! [02:00]
mircea_popescu and from the "asi no" department : http://40.media.tumblr.com/b8728f3202e65ca6e12b43367f3cbe32/tumblr_nu53a5R2mL1qc2yxpo1_1280.jpg [02:01]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tbsgdb ) [02:01]
mircea_popescu nothing quite beats glass resting straight on metal, nor the tittilating value of fully dressed derps. [02:01]
asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/01/26/d7e9b2.jpg << dafuq [02:02]
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asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/03/06/fe2885.jpg << 'these bootz are made for walkin' [02:14]
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asciilifeform http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/03/07/df5d24.jpg << prisoner names scribbled in plank. all women. with birthdays [02:16]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [02:31]
gribble Current Blocks: 385077 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 1994 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 46 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [02:32]
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punkman http://qntra.net/2015/01/vault-of-satoshi-is-closing-why/#comment-76934 << lol [02:39]
assbot Vault Of Satoshi Is Closing – Why? | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLhNqn ) [02:39]
BingoBoingo lol [02:40]
deedbot- [Qntra] Biggest Difficulty Increase In a Year - http://qntra.net/2015/11/biggest-difficulty-increase-in-a-year/ [02:40]
pete_dushenski canadians are... embarrassingly dumb and expectant. quite like this. [02:40]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell adlai I got this one [02:41]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:41]
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pete_dushenski and for the unawares, Stevan Jovanovich using 'rogers' email indicates that he's a client of the country's largest telco, and that if his comment's place and content weren't sufficiently informative as to his demographic placement, he's almost certainly in his 50's. [02:49]
pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/01/vault-of-satoshi-is-closing-why/#comment-77009 [02:51]
assbot Vault Of Satoshi Is Closing – Why? | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMAmVh ) [02:51]
BingoBoingo Look what is back in the slow news day http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/middleeast/egypt-sharm-fake-bomb-detectors/ [02:54]
assbot Questions over bomb detectors in Sharm el-Sheikh hotels - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMAyDZ ) [02:54]
btcdrak where is Branda, lmao https://twitter.com/bren_fdez/status/668928518932275200 [02:57]
trinque easy come, easy go [02:58]
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trinque https://www.rt.com/usa/323032-mafia-isis-warning-gambino/ [03:07]
assbot Gangs of New York: Sicilian mafia offers Big Apple protection from 'psychopathic' ISIS — RT USA ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMBjNg ) [03:07]
trinque "The mafia has a bad reputation, but much of that's undeserved," says Gambino, who moved to Brooklyn in 1988. "As with everything in life, there are good, bad and ugly parts – the rise of global terrorism gives the mafia a chance to show its good side." [03:07]
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BingoBoingo lol >> http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/minority-police-group-expected-to-announce-no-confidence-in-st/article_3bc760d9-a153-5f00-a386-9e94f31849bf.html >> "Sgt. Darren Wilson, who was the president of the society for three years, was suspended amid investigations that as much as $200,000 went missing from the group." [03:10]
assbot Minority police group expected to announce no confidence in St. Louis police chief : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMByYE ) [03:10]
BingoBoingo ;;gooogle darren wilson [03:11]
gribble Error: "gooogle" is not a valid command. [03:11]
BingoBoingo ;;google darren wilson [03:11]
gribble The Man Who Shot Michael Brown - The New Yorker: ; Darren Wilson Is Racist, As It Turns Out - Gawker: ; Darren Wilson opens up about life in seclusion after Ferguson ...: [03:11]
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btcdrak Instant karma - some dae'sh doosh boasting about Paris attacks gets hit by a missile on camera while spewing his diatribe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo38dWJpXE&t=13m37s the timing is incredible. [03:15]
assbot LETHAL ATTACKING & AIRSTRIKES OVER ISIS - SYRIA WAR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMBW9u ) [03:15]
BingoBoingo nice one [03:21]
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btcdrak I normally abhor war and violence but I laughed so hard when I saw that. [03:24]
trinque then allow me to applaud for you [03:24]
trinque nice shot, russia. [03:24]
btcdrak heh [03:24]
pete_dushenski btcdrak: what's wrong with war and violence again ? [03:24]
pete_dushenski (assuming you're not on the front lines in the trenches) [03:25]
btcdrak speaking of Russia: https://twitter.com/ReformedBroker/status/668781990750105600 [03:25]
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trinque good screaming too. you gotta hope that if you get blown apart there's at least someone there to scream over the giblets. [03:29]
mircea_popescu "almost certainly in his 50's." sounds about right. [03:31]
mircea_popescu where is Branda, lmao https://twitter.com/bren_fdez/status/668928518932275200 << da fuck was that ?! [03:33]
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btcdrak mircea_popescu: she kept mentioning bitcoin-assets, I assumed she was in this channel. [03:34]
pete_dushenski ;;seen brendafdez [03:35]
gribble brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 34 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 24 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering. [03:35]
mircea_popescu that dude is pretty lulzy tho. "i like thinking outloud on shitter, it helps me gauge how deep in the latrine i am" [03:35]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/b8f24f5f80771946a787a616d659afb5/tumblr_nugt61ZEzR1rz3qjvo1_1280.jpg [03:36]
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pete_dushenski "if the community tells me my ideas are valuable, a magic wand is waved and so it becomes ! and with it so too do i become a real boy !" [03:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the top girl's calfs will cramp in no time in that position [03:37]
pete_dushenski calves* [03:37]
mircea_popescu so ? [03:37]
pete_dushenski as long as she doesn't twitch and break the table, so nothing. [03:38]
BingoBoingo Dose with a calcium channel blocker prophylactically, risk abated [03:39]
BingoBoingo Crazy knows no borders https://archive.is/Wjsv7 [03:40]
assbot Any Anime fans here? Anti western cosplayers movement ... ( http://bit.ly/1QFdPzN ) [03:40]
BingoBoingo ^ From Thermos's other, other forum [03:40]
mircea_popescu "is racist", what's that even mean @gawker ? [03:40]
mircea_popescu Jay Hathaway said something with numbers in it once so Jay Hathaway is mathematician ? something like that ? [03:41]
pete_dushenski "In the past, when companies implemented labor-saving technology -- whether assembly lines or computers -- their workers didn’t simply go on the unemployment rolls. They became more productive than before, and commanded higher wages. If they got laid off, they eventually found jobs at other companies -- and since the economy overall was more productive because of the innovation, more new companies were started [03:41]
pete_dushenski . In the past, automation has always complemented human beings instead of making them irrelevant. That might change in the future, but so far the old pattern is still holding." << mr. 'noahpinion' on the history of innovation, in a nutshell, and pretty much straight from his 'social studies 10' textbook. because that's where facts come from : the dumb mouths of high school teachers and the sputum-cum-textbooks t [03:41]
pete_dushenski hey're forced to 'teach' from. [03:41]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/16/noahthority-and-economists/ << for those who've forgotten who this tardconomist is. [03:42]
assbot Noahthority and “economists” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkP87M ) [03:42]
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pete_dushenski " the Industrial Revolution began in Europe, rather than in China, because European employers were forced to pay more for labor. Since labor was more expensive, companies invested in technology, which then raised productivity so much that it boosted wages even higher," << this is actually just lulzy [03:43]
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mircea_popescu well, they want the entire "higher wages = technology" argument. [03:43]
mircea_popescu which... whatever. you can pay ustards any amount of fake money you want, up to and including infinity. they're still goners. [03:44]
pete_dushenski at the turn of the 19th century, european INDIVIDUALS - (companies shmumpanies) - invested in technology because they had the freedom and inclination to do so, unlike the chinese, apparently. [03:45]
mircea_popescu no, no, can't talk of individuals. this is socialism. [03:45]
mircea_popescu gotta be "companies", as if such a thing even existed in any sense any recent derp would be familiar with. [03:45]
mircea_popescu forget corporation sole and all that actual history, it wasn't on Cheers. [03:46]
pete_dushenski well 'hudson's bay co did this' and 'east india company did that' is pretty much as far as the minds of american tv watchers go. [03:46]
pete_dushenski who made up these co's ? "we ! the people !" [03:47]
pete_dushenski imsureyoudid. [03:47]
pete_dushenski more likely : your ancestors lived off the table scraps of the adventurers and businessmen, then as now. [03:48]
mircea_popescu anyway, the "productivity" claptrap is irrelevant. england just had a good moat. [03:48]
mircea_popescu china did not. [03:48]
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mircea_popescu this figures way higher than "oh, president bahamas of london 1715 - what do you mean he didn't exist, not like he's a recent invention dun be racist! - forced companies to pay more in wages which is why manna fell from the heaven as it certainly will now!!1" [03:49]
mircea_popescu but whatever, easier to write fiction than get a job. like any fifteen year old with a "backup plan" knows full well. [03:50]
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pete_dushenski lulziest part is how 'noahpinions' can't find a single supporter who agrees with his dumb puppet mouth in the 124 comments. even the english-speaking male internetists knows enough to call a fraud when it sees one. [03:53]
pete_dushenski (article was on bloombergview, hence, male readers) [03:54]
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mircea_popescu either that or they're more into trolling [03:54]
pete_dushenski hey random query : why isn't bit4x on mpex ? [03:55]
mircea_popescu never really seemed all that interested. we are waiting on an assbot interface being implemented tho, as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188589 [03:59]
assbot Logged on 05-07-2015 21:33:29; kakobrekla: right now there are more urgent things on the plate, once api is working as id like we can do something like dat. until then you can run the platform with wine. [03:59]
pete_dushenski aha [04:01]
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pete_dushenski "The rogue root certificate in new Dell computers – a certificate that allows people to be spied on when banking and shopping online – will magically reinstall itself even when deleted." [04:03]
pete_dushenski "According to an analysis [PDF] by Duo Security, a bundled plugin reinstalls the root CA file if it is removed. First, you must delete Dell.Foundation.Agent.Plugins.eDell.dll from your system (search for it) and then remove the eDellRoot root CA certificate." [04:04]
pete_dushenski "The cert, we're told, is used with the plugin for receiving cryptographically signed telemetry requests; said telemetry includes things like the machine's service tag, a seven-character serial number that identifies the computer model, if not the individual machine." [04:04]
pete_dushenski https://www.duosecurity.com/static/pdf/Dude,_You_Got_Dell_d.pdf << said analysis [04:05]
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pete_dushenski quotes via http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/23/dell_security_nightmare_gets_worse/ [04:05]
assbot Superfish 2.0 worsens: Dell's dodgy security certificate is an unkillable zombie • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMFWqC ) [04:05]
pete_dushenski "Google received more than 65 million removal requests for search results containing alleged copyright violations in the space of the past month." << in other nyooz, the equivalent of vw's emissions bypassing tech is pirating musak so many times that the 'regulator' just throws up his arms in dismay and walks out the door without saying another word, never to return. [04:07]
mircea_popescu it doesn't count unless it's racist. google is tech, vw is manufacturing. [04:12]
mircea_popescu manufacturing is racist. [04:13]
pete_dushenski fooey, tech is da MOST racist. ask 'computers be racist and shit' dood [04:14]
mircea_popescu fortunately rakim has no say in setting the narrative. [04:14]
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pete_dushenski ;;seen mats [04:20]
gribble mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know [04:20]
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deedbot- [Trilema] "Say my name, say my name..." - http://trilema.com/2015/say-my-name-say-my-name/ [04:25]
pete_dushenski "why is it that you expect your boyfriend introduce you to his friends ?" << missing a 'to', mircea_popescu ? [04:25]
mircea_popescu no ? [04:29]
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mircea_popescu lol [04:33]
pete_dushenski "If you make it half a million you just happen to be at the cusp of what the scum perceives as "Oprah rich" and they just almost kinda go for it," << coinkidink of coinkidinks, the token insurance salesman in my choir has recently set his eyes on me and yesterday pitched me EXACTLY 500k of life insurance coverage in exchange for $25/mo. [04:39]
pete_dushenski "rich people all buy it" he tells me, "ask any old person and they'll tell you to do it too !" [04:41]
pete_dushenski token old fart dutifully chimes in "pete, you have a kid now, buy life insurance !" [04:41]
pete_dushenski as if 500k is changing anyone's life. imsureitis. [04:42]
pete_dushenski and as if any sum of money is going to replace me. ha ! [04:43]
pete_dushenski go ahead, go, buy, another me. here's 500k. start shoppin' ! [04:44]
* pete_dushenski wants to at least imagine that this would be a difficult and trying purchase experience. [04:45]
pete_dushenski ok, 500k could conceivably change ~someone's~ life, but not mein heir's. he would suffer loss could not possibly by papered over by money. [04:50]
pete_dushenski *loss that [04:50]
pete_dushenski and with that, i wish thee all a good night :) [04:52]
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punkman http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/business/international/china-cuts-mobile-service-of-xinjiang-residents-evading-internet-filters.html [05:21]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1SgVxT0 ) [05:21]
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punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CZgG-kBT6w [05:44]
assbot 360 Security: Kardashian protects your mobile life - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1SgXH52 ) [05:45]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you will note that the thing discussed in my article was health insurance, which is a contingency sort of deal. life "insurance" has nothing to do with this, as everyone dies. as practiced it is moreover a sort of heavily discounted investment plan [05:51]
mircea_popescu moreover, [05:51]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 25*12*50 [05:51]
gribble 15000 [05:51]
mircea_popescu makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums. [05:52]
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wyrdmantis Turkey is playing with fire http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/24/ruaf-su-24-shot-down-by-turkey/ [09:07]
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shinohai Oh shit [09:09]
shinohai 1 pilot ded [09:09]
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danielpbarron wyrdmantis, you get checked-in to Eulora yet? [09:29]
wyrdmantis danielpbarron, no i'm having issues on both mac and win... [09:32]
wyrdmantis waiting for phf to give a mercyful hand :D [09:32]
wyrdmantis but i'm also looking to fire up a linux box [09:33]
danielpbarron ping me when you get it working and need something to do [09:36]
wyrdmantis sure! thanks [09:37]
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punkman so one of those linear halogen bulbs exploded next to me and rained hot glass. almost got me even though bulb was facing the wall and had a half-cylinder glass cover. [11:21]
BingoBoingo makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums. << Such deal are typically "term" policies expiring in 5 years [11:24]
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BingoBoingo !up ozbot [11:38]
funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330787 <-- hint: how many hours of wages were saved up to build the three gorges dam? [11:39]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 08:47:46; mircea_popescu: makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums. [11:39]
funkenstein_ how many months of USan salary were saved to pay to rip out the olive trees of palestine? [11:39]
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funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330691 <-- srs or trolling? [11:45]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 06:20:12; pete_dushenski: btcdrak: what's wrong with war and violence again ? [11:45]
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funkenstein_ this rainmaker piece is anecdotal evidence of ghandi's behavioral hypothesis [12:00]
mircea_popescu Turkey is playing with fire http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/24/ruaf-su-24-shot-down-by-turkey/ << well at least it shows the damned things to be vulnerable. [12:01]
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mircea_popescu oh nm, it's the ancient su [12:03]
mircea_popescu lol turkey shot a fencer, herp. [12:03]
mircea_popescu punkman go throught chemical exposure protection cycle rightnao. [12:07]
mircea_popescu that shit is worth 10k micromorts or something. [12:07]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo aha. [12:08]
mircea_popescu i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. [12:09]
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punkman mircea_popescu: what's the cycle? [12:20]
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mircea_popescu remove and seal all clothing, wash in abundant water, have air in space vacuumed throw out, wash the surfaces in acid [12:21]
mircea_popescu mercury's a bitch. [12:21]
mircea_popescu expect ~1 cubic metre of assorted toxic waste per exploded shitbulb. [12:22]
punkman not sure these have any mercury in them [12:23]
mircea_popescu (incidentally, if you didn't know - this is pretty much the only thing where a vacuum cleanner that was supposed to have its bag changed weeks ago is good for - but boy is it great for it.) [12:23]
mircea_popescu punkman they pretty much all have ; the other heavy metals they could have are not much better. [12:23]
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asciilifeform oh for fucks sake there is no hg in a halogen tube ! [12:27]
asciilifeform the long, narrow, yellow light thing that explodes [12:27]
punkman it did burn the wooden floor [12:27]
asciilifeform there is I and Br [12:27]
asciilifeform and a tungsten filament, same as in normal light bulb. [12:27]
mircea_popescu punkman those aren't the kind that cut through teh glass [12:28]
mircea_popescu i mean asciilifeform [12:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: halogen lamps routinely pop, for same reason as the fact that you can cut a glass bottle with a rope, some petrol, and a match [12:28]
asciilifeform 'hot spot' effect [12:29]
mircea_popescu yes. but when they do they don't cut through the fucking glass protector and burn the floor! [12:29]
punkman they didn't destroy the glass cover [12:29]
mircea_popescu i thought you said ? [12:29]
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punkman it allows air, not enclosed [12:29]
asciilifeform typically the cover is only a half-cylinder and frags get around it [12:29]
mircea_popescu oh [12:29]
BingoBoingo i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. << Aha. The scam is rates to renew policy gradually increase up until 40-50 years of age and then insurance company is all "lol, nope" which makes derps wonder where "affordable" life inurance went when they had no such thing before. Customer backloads their risk, insurance company frontloads theirs and whoever quits the game of chicken first wi [12:30]
BingoBoingo ns the money. [12:30]
mircea_popescu well, br exposure, not the end of the world. wash the place, but at leasr you get to keep your clothes. [12:30]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ayup. [12:30]
BingoBoingo Everyone feels good in the beginning, at least one party feels good in the end. [12:32]
mircea_popescu punkman if it doesn't get up as much as before for a few weeks the effect's supposed to go away. [12:32]
punkman mircea_popescu: which [12:35]
mircea_popescu the br. [12:35]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform ftr, where do you buy your metal-halide lamps that are ACTUALLY free of mercury ? [12:37]
punkman mircea_popescu: oh you mean teh cock? [12:38]
mircea_popescu yes i man the cock. i was reasurring you. [12:38]
mircea_popescu punkman here, was it of this kind https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/150_Watt_Metal_Halide.jpg ? [12:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdJEru ) [12:39]
punkman no more like http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KTjmvITFL._SL1027_.jpg [12:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what would hg be doing in a halogen lamp ? [12:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdJJeF ) [12:39]
punkman MH lamp is different [12:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform mh and halogen are different things! [12:40]
asciilifeform look for hg in the traditional fluorescent lamp, incl. the 'craplamp' mircea_popescu was probably thinking of earlier [12:40]
asciilifeform the one with the coiled tube, chinese transformer, and cock that screws into standard edison socket [12:40]
mircea_popescu that's a ballast not a transformer! [12:40]
asciilifeform neither, actually. they tend to be solid-state monstrosities [12:41]
asciilifeform iirc it's something like a cockcroft-walton 'ladder' in there [12:41]
mircea_popescu well anyway. mercury usually makes for negative resistivity [12:41]
mircea_popescu which means they increase draw until they explode, normally. [12:41]
asciilifeform anyway whoever wants to know whether there is hg in his lamp, can buy... a toy prism [12:41]
asciilifeform and look for the spectral lines. [12:41]
mircea_popescu ^ [12:42]
asciilifeform fizziks doesn't lie! [12:42]
mircea_popescu it cannot tell a lie. [12:42]
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mircea_popescu but, and this general point remains, you don't get to, nor should you, exclude operational costs from efficiency calculations. after you factor in the $500 to replace your favourite pair of pants you always just so happen to be wearing at the time, plus the inconvenience at billable hour cost etc, suddenly the idea to switch to "modern, energy saving, efficient" bulbs looks a lot closer to the insanity it is. [12:44]
mircea_popescu which is why the power plants don't update : they actually do the math. [12:45]
asciilifeform or LED lamp, which doesn't explode, but just expensively dies [12:45]
punkman I'm considering getting some proper LEDs, they high-wattage ones don't look too bad [12:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform recall the discussion of "philips desperate to stick its shitendrils in here before led takes over" i think [12:46]
asciilifeform punkman: the one downer is that none of the high-brightness (equiv. to 100+ W edison bulb) led lamps fit in a traditional glass dome designed for classic lamp [12:46]
asciilifeform the heat sink, likewise, needs airflow [12:46]
punkman indeed [12:46]
asciilifeform which is typically not available in a dome [12:46]
* mircea_popescu figures in short order fucking tables will "no longer be able to cool passively". [12:47]
asciilifeform eventually the rectifier melts. [12:47]
mircea_popescu i recall a time when my gpu did [12:47]
asciilifeform aha! [12:47]
mircea_popescu now the lightbulbs need fucking fans. [12:47]
asciilifeform no fan in these [12:47]
asciilifeform just 'hedgehog' [12:47]
mircea_popescu not fucking yet. [12:47]
asciilifeform but air must rise through it [12:47]
punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVqRy0sWWY [12:47]
assbot 1000W LED Flashlight - Worlds Brightest (90,000 Lumens) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdLacZ ) [12:47]
mircea_popescu wait for the "new, cooler, XPOWER bla bla" [12:47]
asciilifeform ugh [12:47]
deedbot- [Qntra] Small Electric Co-op Faces Off With Illinois Over Delinquency - http://qntra.net/2015/11/small-electric-co-op-faces-off-with-illinois-over-delinquency/ [12:51]
BingoBoingo Failed state is phun [12:52]
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mircea_popescu "The Cooperative is declining to name the Illinois state agencies and buildings which will be affecting by" why the fuck ? [12:53]
BingoBoingo That bullshit pushed as us business pseudo-ethics [12:54]
BingoBoingo "We don't talk about our customers except when we do" [12:55]
mircea_popescu the notion that government agents/agencies have ANY right to privacy is the highest grade of lulz. [12:56]
mircea_popescu used to be what distinguished the third world, too. [12:56]
BingoBoingo This is the third world. [12:56]
BingoBoingo Albeit, the better corner of Illinois [12:57]
asciilifeform the first, biggest, best, third world! [12:57]
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mircea_popescu nation of africa-america! [12:57]
mircea_popescu [nsfa] http://36.media.tumblr.com/a9075a3112acc782e4c9874bc07e9ec3/tumblr_muzixeWNqp1r1f7jgo1_1280.jpg [12:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PXb8YF ) [12:59]
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mircea_popescu http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncensored-syria-war/194992-u-s-backed-rebels-down-russian-helicopter-in-syria << seeing how us airships made of paiper mache, curious what the russians do next. [13:25]
assbot Syria War - U.S. backed rebels down Russian helicopter in Syria - Uncensored ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAayha ) [13:25]
BingoBoingo "Accidents" [13:26]
mircea_popescu "USS Mount Whitney sunk by russian backed syrian/ukrainian/whatever rebels" [13:26]
BingoBoingo USS Cole mistaken for ISIS Corvette [13:28]
BingoBoingo I mean enough US gears is in ISIS hands Russia had to assume the US infared IFF market meant ISIS had taken that warship as loot [13:29]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo damned tging nearly burned down in croatia this summer anyway. [13:31]
mircea_popescu "most advanced rust bucket on the high seas" [13:31]
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kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330741 < one problem is that i am, among other things, the sole treasurer for the company and i am getting tired of it [13:36]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 06:50:51; pete_dushenski: hey random query : why isn't bit4x on mpex ? [13:36]
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kakobrekla as it is now i dont have any obligation to keep it running, if one day i wake up and have enough i can just shut it down singlehandedly - if listed anywhere, this changes [13:38]
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mircea_popescu myeah. one classical problem the corporations were for is that usually ventures require a lot of dedication, and people got lives to live. [13:40]
kakobrekla if this was a fiat company there would be no such issue [13:41]
kakobrekla however bitcoin. [13:41]
mircea_popescu "fiat company" is not really a thing. [13:42]
mircea_popescu if this were a fiat company it just wouldn't exist. [13:42]
kakobrekla you know what i mean [13:42]
mircea_popescu not really. [13:42]
kakobrekla most people know how to use banks, most people dont know how to use bitcoin (at least approximately correctly) [13:43]
mircea_popescu now i know what you mean. [13:49]
kakobrekla anyway, when we were doing bitbet i was explicit about not wanting to handle other peoples money [13:49]
mircea_popescu most people are used to getting raped by banks, and have enough respect to stfu and kiss the bloodied, dripping penis in thanks. [13:49]
mircea_popescu most people don't know how to walk on two feet, meanwhile. [13:49]
mircea_popescu yes, tru. [13:49]
kakobrekla here the story was different, it was my condition that i am the treasurer if we are doing this [13:50]
kakobrekla and so i am not fungible [13:50]
mircea_popescu aha. [13:50]
kakobrekla this was a double edged sword. [13:50]
mircea_popescu it's a reasonable condition. iirc the bitbet thing was a straight meeting of the minds, i wasn't going to do it with anyone else as treasurer anyway. [13:50]
mircea_popescu truth be told the wot is not old enough yet. [13:51]
kakobrekla well your idea was that i would periodically flush btc to you, which i declined. [13:51]
mircea_popescu a right. [13:51]
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kakobrekla how long can mircea_popescu go without looking at his main computer once ? [14:28]
asciilifeform iirc he was once at sea for three whole days [14:28]
mircea_popescu i know what you're saying, man. i fully know what you're saying. [14:28]
mircea_popescu wasn't arguing with it to any degree. [14:28]
deedbot- [Trilema] One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - http://trilema.com/2015/one-flew-over-the-cuckoos-nest/ [14:29]
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thestringpuller Is there a reason everyone wants shit done like the day before you take vacation? [15:10]
thestringpuller It's uncanny. [15:10]
phf the trick is to leave on vacation two days before you told everyone you're going [15:11]
phf those who matter will know the right date anyway, but the ones that have "needs" are so disorganized they would think they misunderstood you [15:13]
mircea_popescu i've just had the world's worst peach. what the fuck this tree should be ashamed of itself. [15:15]
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thestringpuller phf: that's fucking brilliant. also astute observation of why people send requests the day before a vacation begins. funny how many disorganized people end up in an ofice. [15:30]
trinque in flatland anyway. [15:31]
thestringpuller lol trilema's banner is officially NSFW [15:32]
thestringpuller i will shamelessly open it in work anyways [15:34]
mircea_popescu i dun think trilema was ever sfw anyway. [15:48]
mircea_popescu damned subversives. [15:48]
* adlai almost wishes One Flew would've been a mediocre movie, then maybe more people would read the book [15:49]
mircea_popescu why ? [15:49]
adlai because it's excellent [15:50]
adlai the movie is good, very good. but as long as the book's around, it'll only be second best [15:50]
adlai the book is quite different from the movie, in that the movie merely tells a story, whereas the book takes the slightest baby step towards actually placing you inside the main character's head [15:52]
adlai and the main character is neither jack nicholson nor randall mcmurphy [15:52]
mircea_popescu imo this is one of those situations where the better movie makes the book its bitch. yes the book is longer and goes into more detail, as a book has space to do. but this is a twin edged sword [15:53]
adlai well i guess mcmurphy is the "main character", but the book has a narrator. i'm not sure i've seen a movie yet where narration didn't interfere with the story [15:54]
mircea_popescu the chief narrator device is mostly there to insulate the author from tyhe material, best i can tell. [15:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, stroke of luck mostly, god only knows what'd have happened if one of the douglas hack clan ended up with the role. [15:57]
mircea_popescu also mildly interesting, how that toothpaste-commercial-and-soap-opera extra got the nurse part. [15:59]
mircea_popescu forman blessfuly caught on eventually that the personification of evil has to be familiar, not visibly "evil". [16:00]
adlai what do you mean by "insulate the author"? ken kesey's writing process was a rather uninsulated anthropological investigation... [16:01]
mircea_popescu ha. [16:01]
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mircea_popescu i suppose all the lsd and mental hospital moonlighting are there because he's all secure in his dominion, right. [16:02]
thestringpuller adlai: didn't that happen with fight club as well? [16:04]
* adlai hasn't read the book [16:07]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller i dunno if you did this deliberately or not, but really, it's too smooth to not credit you with it. [16:10]
mircea_popescu so yeah, palahniuk loved the movie adaptation ; kensey hated it. [16:11]
mircea_popescu notably, he didn't hate it for any reason, other than being a vocal leader in the "book was better" chorus ; and for the director very sensibly removing the chief narrator clingwrap. [16:11]
mircea_popescu he never actually saw it. but he hated it, because "o noes, can't touch radioactive without chief brand mask!11" [16:11]
adlai 'kensey' is the hybrid synthesis of ken kesey and... alf kinsey? [16:14]
adlai the One Flew movie is a great movie though, in its own right. it's orthogonal to the book [16:15]
mircea_popescu lol [16:15]
mircea_popescu kesey, kesey. [16:15]
mircea_popescu so then why'd you mention the book. [16:17]
ben_vulpes unrelated: http://writing-c-unites-workers.shithouse.tv/ [16:19]
assbot writing-c-unites-workers ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0QkPu ) [16:19]
adlai the movie was good because it didn't try-and-fail to capture what the book does, which boils down to the power of humor [16:19]
mircea_popescu way i see it both try the same thing, in their own medium : describe the doomed situation of a society which has lost male force and is now going into castration mode at the hands of the decaying female biomass. it's a failure mode of human populations, well known, well understood, amply documented. [16:21]
mircea_popescu the film does a better job of this as a film than the book does a job of it as a book. arguably this is because film has less space to do it in ; countrariwise, film is more of a "tower of babel" sort of artifice, so it's harder to get anything done. [16:22]
mircea_popescu other than this mediated sort of approach, straight book-film comparisons are pretty meaningless anyway. [16:22]
adlai fight club's message, otoh, is a bit more in the "this is how you win" direction, rather than just "here's a problem, have fun dealing with it" [16:23]
mircea_popescu to me fight club is merely a coupla stages down. "we're lost - infantilism is always a refuge". [16:23]
mircea_popescu the notion that fight club is productive in any sense is pretty lulzy to me. [16:24]
punkman thestringpuller: adlai: didn't that happen with fight club as well? << I thought epilogue of the book was better than movie ending [16:24]
adlai i really disliked fight club because it lets the infantile 'rage' overshadow the parts that it shares with oneflew [16:24]
mircea_popescu which are those ? [16:25]
mircea_popescu all i see is disproportionate violence (note that mcmurphy doesn't set fire to the fucking hospital - heck he doesn't even LEAVE when he has the chance, because reasons.) and disavowal (really, the voices in your head told you to, maybe, who knows ? what are you, a dumbass us girl that has to get herself drunk to be able to have sex ?) [16:25]
trinque and then the act itself is futile. [16:27]
adlai they're both about identifying and responding to 'doomed situation'. palahniuk says, set fire to the hospital, while kesey just laughs all the way to the ECT [16:27]
trinque take a couple of buildings down and utopia! [16:27]
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mircea_popescu in the book. in the film, nicholson OWNS the place. [16:29]
mircea_popescu so does the [resuscitated, through this] indian. [16:29]
punkman book ending: "With Tyler gone, the narrator waits for the bomb to explode and kill him. The bomb malfunctions because Tyler mixed paraffin into the explosives. Still alive and holding Tyler's gun, the narrator makes the first decision that is truly his own: he puts the gun in his mouth and shoots himself. Some time later, he awakens in a mental hospital, believing he is in Heaven, and [16:29]
punkman imagines an argument with God over human nature. The book ends with the narrator's being approached by hospital employees who reveal themselves to be Project members. They tell him their plans still continue, and that they are expecting Tyler to come back." [16:29]
mircea_popescu the fact that they can actually jointly own it just fine is a stronger indictment of the female-mitigated insanity than anything else could ever be. [16:29]
mircea_popescu punkman whadda you like about this ? the christic parallel ? [16:30]
adlai that's not the book ending, that's wikipedia :( [16:31]
adlai "but the territory doesn't fit in the blockchain" [16:31]
mircea_popescu which is why this is a good film./ [16:31]
mircea_popescu if it fit i wouldn't have cared to review it. [16:31]
mircea_popescu anyway, that's a path less traveled that should be. WHY is it that redskins in the continental us HAD TO be massacred ? is it because they "couldn't fit" in its future, somehow, mysteriously ? is it perhaps because white guys wanted the depopulation to support higher wages and liberty [aka the fronteer lifestyle] ? is it perhaps because the wives of farmers "didn't feel safe" with them around ? [16:34]
mircea_popescu i don't have a straight answer, but i will say that having been in argentina for a while now and having observed the assorted insanities they sport here, grouped for convenience under the "inseguridad" thematic, i understand a lot more of the fate of the new world. [16:35]
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punkman well I just grabbed the dead tree and reread last two pages. looks pretty stupid now. [16:38]
* adlai also found that the book shines in its portrayal of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193607 [16:39]
assbot Logged on 08-07-2015 19:34:29; ascii_field: far more interesting is the trait hasn eysenck called 'psychoticism' [16:39]
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punkman "When I said I want what my parents had, I meant loan-free education and a nice house, not the looming threat of war with Russia." [16:46]
* adlai and punkman are probably discussing different books [16:46]
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phf one flew narrative is a just a vehicle for kesey to share his first explorations of acid altered perception, which are further elaborated on in electric kool-aid, second hand, by tom wolfe. [16:54]
mircea_popescu punkman ironically war with russia would have been much better for the us than this crap. [16:55]
mircea_popescu they'd have just abandoned europe like the whores that they are and under pressure they'd have stayed in a better state of preservation for longer. [16:55]
adlai "we've always been at war with Eurasia" is a much more effective "WAR IS PEACE" than "we are still in the desert" (last line of Jarhead) [16:57]
mircea_popescu ironically also better for yurp, a russian-run eu would have worked where the german-run eu is barely screeching around. [16:59]
mircea_popescu zee germanz don't have the balls to slap heads. [17:00]
mircea_popescu should be pretty amusing to see how greece'd have looked in alt-history where CCCE dominated the small continent. "oh we won't pay". [17:00]
mircea_popescu probably have a little oblast named for them in siberia, like the jews do. [17:01]
phf (experience of The Combine as a palpable thing for example, during his pranksters period turned into attempts at active manipulation of others, i.e. The Consensus, through Control, which pranksters called "putting them into our movie". if you can put them into our movie, you can make them read our lines. etc.) [17:03]
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phf kesey couldn't care less about plight of the mentally disabled, or helping you relate to a mental patient or anything like that. it's kind of obvious from reading about him. guy was just having interesting experiences at a mental ward, writing them down, and selling the result on a threadbare socially conscious theme. [17:09]
thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/276NJT2.txt << submission [17:13]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:13]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Forever 21 Inc Tries Preventing Other Raspberry Pis From Running Software - http://qntra.net/2015/11/forever-21-inc-tries-preventing-other-raspberry-pis-from-running-software/ [18:27]
punkman isn't forever21 the one that makes pants [18:32]
BingoBoingo punk Makes pants and resells piss [18:33]
kakobrekla there should be a bounty on the breaking of their auth system [18:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00051225 = 32.9889 BTC [-] [18:34]
BingoBoingo I don't think they mine fast enough to fund such a bounty [18:35]
adlai this isn't even worth a whole qntreatment, the headline says it all: "Zapchain Growth Proves Bitcoin Tipping Viable Social Media Model" [18:38]
BingoBoingo lol [18:38]
jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330846 omg, i broke mercury thermometer near bed over a table, with drops likely fell to a carpet [18:40]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 15:17:26; mircea_popescu: expect ~1 cubic metre of assorted toxic waste per exploded shitbulb. [18:40]
jurov mom came, swept the drops, threw them out [18:40]
deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The clever gentleman Don Quixote de la Mancha and his trusty sidekick Andrei Pippidi, translated. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/24/the-clever-gentleman-don-quixote-de-la-mancha-and-his-trusty-sidekick-andrei-pippidi-translated/ [18:40]
jurov nothing was ever done with the carpet [18:40]
jurov i'm still here [18:41]
adlai yes but (to paraphrase modern hebrew vernacular) "look how you look' [18:41]
BingoBoingo jurov: But aren't you protected by Bear Force? [18:42]
jurov dunno really, how i could look better. even the hair refuses to fall out as much as predicted [18:42]
adlai actually the mercury may have even imbued you with double astrological fortune [18:42]
punkman as long as it's not red mercury [18:43]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331051 << mega-l0l [18:50]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 19:41:30; punkman: "When I said I want what my parents had, I meant loan-free education and a nice house, not the looming threat of war with Russia." [18:51]
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ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331086 << elemental Hg is not ~acutely~ poisonous - people have survived eating tremendous quantities in a sitting (more or less as much as would fit inside) [18:52]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 21:36:12; jurov: i'm still here [18:52]
ascii_field organic compounds of Hg - another matter entirely [18:52]
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jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331058 << yep, would have "worked" like north korea [19:12]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 19:54:52; mircea_popescu: ironically also better for yurp, a russian-run eu would have worked where the german-run eu is barely screeching around. [19:12]
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jurov we have got a visi from fsf? [19:12]
BingoBoingo Oh? [19:13]
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jurov BingoBoingo: what does fsf/member/jeraldv cloak mean? [19:14]
SuchWow how's it goin folks [19:14]
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BingoBoingo No idea. I kinda though freenode cloaks were kinda random [19:15]
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SuchWow freenode used to give affiliated cloaks back in the day, if you were affiliated with an open source project [19:15]
cryptone yes i am an FSF member [19:15]
phf BingoBoingo: you can get a custom first part, if you represent a sufficiently large organization [19:15]
BingoBoingo Ah [19:16]
cryptone and thanks for the +v [19:17]
jurov cryptone: it's temporary. you're welcome to register as per http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [19:18]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o ) [19:18]
cryptone cheers [19:20]
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shinohai https://news.yahoo.com/authorities-border-agent-had-110-pounds-cocaine-car-205627903.html [19:58]
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assbot Authorities: Border agent had 110 pounds of cocaine in car - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1T1yR9m ) [19:58]
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thestringpuller ascii_field: what you doin on the field? you never take vacation? [19:58]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330830 << what's the difference ? [20:22]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 14:40:17; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330691 <-- srs or trolling? [20:22]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330841 << here, now, yes. [20:22]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 15:04:25; mircea_popescu: i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. [20:22]
pete_dushenski yes, as in, your suspicion is correct [20:23]
pete_dushenski it's more like 1/10`000/year [20:23]
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pete_dushenski hey look, mxn-cad not far off 10 year high. good news this. [20:28]
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* pete_dushenski has mexico trip booked for february [20:29]
pete_dushenski why it didn't occur to me to check before i booked it, i can't say [20:29]
pete_dushenski but most likely explanation is that alternative, cuba, just had shittier hotels for the same price. [20:30]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330859 << i was laughed at last night for telling door installer, who was trying to adjust semi-circular halogens in kitchen so that he could find a screw or bit or something, NOT TO TOUCH THE BULBS WHILE THEY WERE ON AND HOT. [20:32]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 15:24:14; asciilifeform: 'hot spot' effect [20:32]
pete_dushenski he thought i was kidding and that this was 'old wive's tale' [20:33]
pete_dushenski needless to say, i took to 'search engines' to find corroborating evidence, and every last fucking result was some derps on some derpy 'lighting' forum. [20:33]
pete_dushenski it's like no one blogs anymore. [20:33]
pete_dushenski or if they do, 'search engine' doesn't know about it. [20:34]
pete_dushenski who knows, maybe light bulb industry is sending google take-down notices for 'copyrasted infoz' [20:34]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330866 << indeed. increase 10%+++ every 5 years. [20:35]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 15:25:24; BingoBoingo: i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. << Aha. The scam is rates to renew policy gradually increase up until 40-50 years of age and then insurance company is all "lol, nope" which makes derps wonder where "affordable" life inurance went when they had no such thing before. Customer backloads their risk, insurance company frontloads theirs an [20:35]
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pete_dushenski http://www.elightbulbs.com/catpics/ge/20641alg.jpg << ftr, this was the type of 'semi-circular' halogen in question. [20:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdtlBp ) [20:37]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330898 << 'insanity' aka. 'economic growth' aka frivolous shit for the sake of frivolous shit. damn the externalised consequences as long as costs are incured. after all, moar broken windows and moar car accidents == gdp growths !! [20:40]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 15:39:59; mircea_popescu: but, and this general point remains, you don't get to, nor should you, exclude operational costs from efficiency calculations. after you factor in the $500 to replace your favourite pair of pants you always just so happen to be wearing at the time, plus the inconvenience at billable hour cost etc, suddenly the idea to switch to "modern, energy saving, efficient" bulbs looks a lot clos [20:40]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330948 << aha. freedom wins. [20:42]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 16:33:22; kakobrekla: as it is now i dont have any obligation to keep it running, if one day i wake up and have enough i can just shut it down singlehandedly - if listed anywhere, this changes [20:42]
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pete_dushenski i guess 'semi-circular' is really more of a hemispherical eh. [20:45]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331057 << jarhead is, ftr, an unsurpassably effective first date movie. [20:49]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 19:53:01; adlai: "we've always been at war with Eurasia" is a much more effective "WAR IS PEACE" than "we are still in the desert" (last line of Jarhead) [20:49]
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pete_dushenski (yes, jarhead was last 'first date' movie that pete saw, and may see for some time yet) [20:50]
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thestringpuller weird first date movie... [20:55]
pete_dushenski well, 'normal' movies get you normal girls and normal relationships. glhf with those. [20:56]
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pete_dushenski http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-costco-wholesale-ecoli-idUSKBN0TD2UZ20151124 << good ol' O157:H7 beating back the pre-packaged mobs. [20:59]
assbot CDC says at least 19 E. coli infections linked to Costco chicken salad [20:59]
pete_dushenski "i was too busy to cook at home". yea, well, this is what your efficiency sowed. [21:00]
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pete_dushenski speaking of planting the seeds... [21:02]
pete_dushenski "Gambetta and Hertog painstakingly gather together data on individuals belonging to a variety of terrorist groups in the Muslim world. Where they are able to get the data, it displays a compelling pattern – engineers are much more prone to become members of violent terrorist organizations." [21:02]
pete_dushenski technical knowledge is WRECKING !!!1 [21:03]
pete_dushenski https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/11/17/this-is-the-group-thats-surprisingly-prone-to-violent-extremism/ [21:03]
assbot This is the group that’s surprisingly prone to violent extremism - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdvzAQ ) [21:03]
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pete_dushenski "Engineers are more likely to become terrorists because of mindset and lack of opportunity" and "engineers combine these political predilections with a marked preference towards finding clearcut answers." [21:05]
pete_dushenski so it's isis' unemployed engineers vs. ustard 'risk engineers' eh. [21:06]
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pete_dushenski "The team trades securities to keep rates in line with Fed policy decisions. At 12:45 p.m., a window pops open on a system called FedTrade and plays a sequence of musical notes—F-E-D—to open trading, traders said. A clock counts down the remaining time, turning from green to yellow in the final three minutes and then to red as the last 30 seconds tick off. The music plays again when the operations’ results are [21:18]
pete_dushenski ced." << heh. 'fedtrade'. [21:18]
pete_dushenski https://archive.is/PRe7z [21:18]
assbot The Oxford Economist Running the Fed’s Interest-Rate Machine - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/21eQZm8 ) [21:18]
pete_dushenski psa: archive.is circumvents wsj paywall. [21:19]
pete_dushenski "Harvard economist Dani Rodrik, who began compiling data on manufacturing world-wide a few years ago, says he is seeing growing evidence of what he calls “premature deindustrialization”—the idling or shrinking of manufacturing sectors as a share of the economy in poor countries like India that never industrialized very much in the first place." << in other not-nyooz where idjits with 'pc' blinders don't want to [21:22]
pete_dushenski ncomfortable truths lest they offend their dear sweet old mothers, indians are no better than africans and both are markedly lesser peoples than europeans and chinese. [21:22]
pete_dushenski via http://www.wsj.com/articles/for-poor-countries-well-worn-path-to-development-turns-rocky-1448374298 [21:22]
pete_dushenski "Africa looks more like India. In South Africa, manufacturing was 15% of output in 1962 and peaked at 25%—in 1981. By 2011, the share was closer to 18%. Factory activity in fast-modernizing Ethiopia hasn’t managed to grow beyond 6% of the economy. In Tanzania, it peaked at 13% in 1976 and dropped since to around 10%." [21:23]
assbot For Poor Countries, Well-Worn Path to Development Turns Rocky - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/21eRfSl ) [21:23]
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mircea_popescu jurov i'll remind you of "Three woodcutters in the nation of Georgia found two warm canisters near their camp and spent the night beside them. The canisters were discarded and unshielded heat sources from Soviet radioisotope thermoelectric generators, containing 30 kCi (1.1 PBq) of 90Sr each" not to mention http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/ [22:04]
assbot A simple example as to why fiat institutions can't stand on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6W1H1 ) [22:04]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331100 << no, like south. [22:10]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 22:07:15; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331058 << yep, would have "worked" like north korea [22:10]
mircea_popescu or if you prefer, taiwan. [22:10]
mircea_popescu ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done. [22:10]
mircea_popescu in the immortal words of clark gable, "a good whipping would benefit oyu immensely my dear" [22:11]
adlai well what do you think would've happened to eussrope once the latter went former? or would it not have? [22:11]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331171 << and the explanation is that the engineers are the ones from whom the western governments steal to support their "social sciences" catamites. [22:14]
assbot Logged on 24-11-2015 23:57:51; pete_dushenski: "Gambetta and Hertog painstakingly gather together data on individuals belonging to a variety of terrorist groups in the Muslim world. Where they are able to get the data, it displays a compelling pattern – engineers are much more prone to become members of violent terrorist organizations." [22:14]
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mircea_popescu ;;google Kramatorsk radiological accident [22:22]
gribble Kramatorsk radiological accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Kramatorsk source accident, 1982 - Johnston's Archive: ; Kramatorsk nuclear poisoning incident - research.omicsgroup.org: (1 more message) [22:22]
mircea_popescu teh roaring 90s. [22:22]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-01-2015#970256 << see old threadz. [22:30]
assbot Logged on 08-01-2015 21:32:41; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there are multiple reasonably well-documented corpses of thieves, poachers, metal hunters, killing themselves on rtg [22:30]
mircea_popescu incidentally : thinking of the cobalt parity violation. somehow im reminded of the spin engine discussions last year [22:32]
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asciilifeform how's that [22:34]
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mircea_popescu well, cobalt decay convincingly proves "nature" has a handedness [22:35]
asciilifeform aha [22:35]
asciilifeform first such proof afaik. [22:35]
mircea_popescu the whole discussion there was chirality [22:36]
mircea_popescu and so... that's how. [22:36]
asciilifeform ah yes. [22:40]
asciilifeform that was where schwarz began, iirc. [22:40]
asciilifeform any serious business re: chirality begins with wu et al [22:41]
asciilifeform (wu was a chick, incidentally) [22:41]
mircea_popescu aha [22:42]
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adlai in other news, http://www.konbini.com/en/lifestyle/bread-vagina-yeast/ [22:55]
assbot This girl made bread using her own vaginal yeast ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6YTUe ) [22:55]
adlai << And according to Stavri – whose Twitter name is Another Angry Woman – she just wanted to see if it would work, because it “might as well make itself useful.” >> [22:56]
asciilifeform worthy addition to the pheminist cookbook [22:56]
asciilifeform y'know, the one with menstrual cookies [22:56]
adlai actually i don't and i'd rather stay uny'knowing [22:56]
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adlai there's zero theoretical reason trade engine couldn't give proxies signed orderbooks, but y'know what they say bout theory and practice [23:01]
asciilifeform adlai: remember the reactor rods? [23:02]
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asciilifeform adlai: my guess would be that mircea_popescu regards machine-signing, even with a key kept around solely for that purpose, as a gravely sinful thing. but you might want to actually ask ~him~ when he wakes up [23:03]
adlai asciilifeform: no, remind me pls? [23:03]
asciilifeform (and i can't find any reason to disagree with this position) [23:03]
adlai well it's in the logs, they'll ask him in my stead should i myself be 'sleep or dead [23:03]
adlai hmm "This means you can restrict access to your site based on traits including sex, ancestry, disease susceptability, and arbitrary characteristics associated with single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in a person's genotype." https://github.com/offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2 [23:07]
assbot offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6Zw0f ) [23:07]
asciilifeform ancient lol [23:07]
asciilifeform and didn't the scam go bust since...? [23:07]
asciilifeform iirc it did. [23:07]
adlai "Ethnoreligious sects may wish to limit membership, e.g. Hasidic Jewish groups restricting access to Ashkenazi or Sephardic maternal haplogroups with the "Cohen" gene [23:07]
adlai ah, too bad, too bad. scams are always better before bust [23:08]
adlai BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx [23:09]
asciilifeform what was this [23:10]
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adlai asciilifeform: you said 'ancient lol', i searched logs more diligently, found http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209477 [23:10]
assbot Logged on 22-07-2015 06:38:48; BingoBoingo: http://science.slashdot.org/story/15/07/22/0146236/genetic-access-control-code-uses-23andme-dna-data-for-internet-racism [23:10]
asciilifeform it was some last-ditch 'any pr is good pr' gambit on the part of the sc4mz0rz ( (ex?) wife of sergey brin and co.) [23:11]
phf asciilifeform: 23andme i still operational, they were recently approved by FDA to re-enable their health section even [23:13]
asciilifeform phf: any idea what concession they made ? [23:13]
asciilifeform i personally can't be arsed to follow every single circus [23:14]
phf no idea, probably have something to do with their "compliance with law enforcement requests"? [23:14]
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asciilifeform aha, the genetic arm of the 'you will give all of your bits to usg not because hanging upside down over pirannha pit but because you are stupid and gullible' brigade. [23:15]
phf https://www.23andme.com/transparency-report/ hehehe [23:16]
assbot 23andMe AU, DE, FR & EU [23:16]
phf ^- see it's safe, if you're not a criminal you've got nothing to worry about [23:17]
asciilifeform can't wait for the first conviction [23:19]
adlai good thing non-criminals don't have to worry either! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Database_Law [23:21]
assbot Biometric Database Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1N70iKu ) [23:21]
adlai (re: "inclusion would be voluntary"... they already have every POTENTIAL recruit's biometrics, even the ones that don't get drafted. pls forget them kthx) [23:22]
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mircea_popescu all bread is made with "own vaginal yeast". wtf other yeast is there. [23:41]
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BingoBoingo ' BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx << Sometimes the quick chuckle passes too soon to dig so deeply [23:43]
mircea_popescu curious who ends up with the copyrights over particularly valuable genotypes. [23:44]
mircea_popescu somehow i expect not north korea [23:44]
BingoBoingo and didn't the scam go bust since...? << Nao has second wind. FDA Approval of some medical things. [23:44]
adlai mircea_popescu: dunno, does recombinatory fucking count as prior art? [23:45]
mircea_popescu depends on whst it does to mickey mouse. [23:45]
adlai who's mickey? and what'd he do to my minnie [23:46]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:51]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 318.4, Best ask: 318.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 318.46, 24 hour volume: 7542.05225686, 24 hour low: 318.33, 24 hour high: 323.77, 24 hour vwap: None [23:51]
mircea_popescu ;;tickler [23:51]
gribble Error: "tickler" is not a valid command. [23:51]
mircea_popescu aww. [23:51]
adlai is this a word in english vernacular? lit. trans to hebrew means what you think it does [23:52]
mircea_popescu basically. [23:53]
adlai !t m s.mpoe [23:53]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00049734 / 0.00050502 / 0.00051851 (7864164 shares, 3,971.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00049734 / 0.00051218 / 0.00053875 (26072203 shares, 13,353.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053175 / 0.00057294 (66730228 shares, 35,484.08 BTC) [23:53]
asciilifeform 'How to Run Turing Machines on Encrypted Data.' Shafi Goldwasser & bunch other schmucks. << apparently impossibility proofs don't apply to some people !! [23:59]
asciilifeform didja know ~that~, mircea_popescu ? [23:59]
mircea_popescu there is much i don't know./ [23:59]
asciilifeform and can we revoke 2nd law of thermo and 3rd law of newton! i'd like to fly around on a reactionless perpetuum mobile fart pack [23:59]
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