Forum logs for 24 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33873 @ 0.00080304 = 27.2014 BTC [-] {2} [00:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 3000 @ 0.0002151 = 0.6453 BTC [-] [00:08]
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mike_c 0e-8 is more zero than 0 [00:15]
danielpbarron https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384 [00:16]
assbot I just ran into a fellow /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets user at /hashtag/porcfest?src=hash! That's worth a +2 in the /hashtag/WoT?src=hash. http://t.co/oI2PHHgK6u [00:16]
fluffypony dat /hashtag/ [00:16]
fluffypony right, going to try sleep a bit, cheers [00:16]
danielpbarron kyuupichan, you can voice yourself now :D [00:16]
TheNewDeal wtf is porcfest [00:18]
danielpbarron libertarian tent-city [00:19]
TheNewDeal ahhhh not bad [00:20]
TheNewDeal not a porcupine freedom festival? [00:21]
danielpbarron ya that's it [00:21]
TheNewDeal looks kinda like a hippy fest [00:21]
danielpbarron hippies with guns [00:21]
TheNewDeal ooooh [00:22]
mike_c !mpif [00:22]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-] [00:22]
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TheNewDeal gotta go scout the hotel happy hour [00:25]
TheNewDeal hydrate with some free light beer [00:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14954 @ 0.00080025 = 11.9669 BTC [-] {3} [00:27]
mike_c ;;later tell ThickAsThieves it needs to be a NS record, not a CNAME [00:28]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:28]
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TheNewDeal scratch that, bringing the laptop and making this a party [00:32]
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jborkl finished up the "block found by" and I will be putting that online tomorrow [00:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02162138 = 1.5135 BTC [+] {10} [00:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04698667 = 2.8192 BTC [+] {4} [00:53]
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mircea_popescu !up l337 [00:53]
-assbot- You voiced l337 for 30 minutes. [00:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.04699966 = 1.692 BTC [+] {3} [00:55]
l337 thanks. any plans on purchasing JD if doog is up for selling it mircea_popescu? [00:55]
mircea_popescu maybe. [00:55]
l337 would be awesome [00:56]
TheNewDeal how does JD continue to exist? Don't stupid people go broke? [00:58]
mthreat ya, then take loans [00:59]
mike_c on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping. [00:59]
mike_c but who knows why [01:00]
TheNewDeal true about casinos [01:01]
pankkake more gambling venues? [01:01]
mike_c like who? its dropped a lot. set new all-time-lows 3 out of 6 months this year. [01:01]
mike_c could be player-fatigue (rolling dice is only so much fun). could be competition, but i don't know who. [01:02]
mike_c still though, 60k in wager volume a month is a nice business. [01:03]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete teh court finds your arguments persuasive. [01:03]
mircea_popescu mike_c that "a month" kinda impleis it's stable. it's not that stable it seems. [01:04]
mike_c hm. a return to 6 digit wager volume would surprise me. but it's quite possible new management could make it happen. [01:05]
mike_c first 8 months were all > 100k, last 4 months were all well below. [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00079488 = 18.8784 BTC [-] [01:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04799999 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2} [01:08]
mike_c certainly still has some value. i'm sure he will get multiple offers. [01:09]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.16199681 BTC. Current weight: 5,498. [01:10]
TheNewDeal Return is still to high not to attract bets... [01:11]
TheNewDeal 5.4% over 8 days [01:11]
mircea_popescu provided he even wants to sell. [01:12]
mike_c this seems like a pretext to get out, no? but maybe he just wants to walk away. [01:12]
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mircea_popescu mike_c he could just keep it on play money for a month or w/e while he moves to argentina. [01:14]
mike_c hehe. true. [01:14]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.047 = 4.7 BTC [-] {2} [01:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04547644 = 0.955 BTC [-] {2} [01:16]
TheNewDeal who runs JD? [01:16]
mike_c dooglus [01:17]
TheNewDeal he's joining the MP crowd in LaArgentina? [01:17]
mthreat wow that rumor didn't take long [01:18]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:18]
TheNewDeal didn't take mp to be a rumorist [01:18]
TheNewDeal my bad [01:19]
mircea_popescu honestly, him selling out'd be a net negative for btc [01:19]
mircea_popescu how many competen managers do you know of ? [01:19]
jborkl 2 [01:19]
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mircea_popescu jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ? [01:20]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal what did I do! [01:20]
jborkl hahahahaha, oh man [01:20]
jborkl I sharted [01:20]
TheNewDeal starting rumors about your posse in argentina of course [01:20]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal you know mthreat is in argentina right ? [01:21]
TheNewDeal if you need a grease monkey to work on your machines, give me a call [01:21]
TheNewDeal CNC * [01:21]
l337 mircea_popescu: is doog moving to argentina because of this? [01:23]
mircea_popescu lol how would i know! [01:23]
mircea_popescu i merely pointed out extemporaneously that he doesnm't have to necessarily sell or close down [01:23]
mircea_popescu he could just get out of fucktardlandia too [01:24]
l337 got it, I took it literally what you said [01:24]
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jborkl nm got the "found by" online now just have to fill in a few blanks [01:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.04342691 = 2.0845 BTC [-] {2} [01:27]
mike_c www.coindesk.com/mp-says-dooglus-moving-to-argentina/ [01:28]
penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/betting-just-dice-halted-due-regulation/ [01:28]
mircea_popescu this is trollage! [01:28]
benkay jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ? // they actually *hire* managers, if you'd believe it. [01:29]
mircea_popescu benkay im sure they do, because with their great reputation there's a bunch of smart, qualified people wanting to work for them. [01:29]
mircea_popescu brb while i get my snark refilled [01:30]
mircea_popescu that sentence taped me out. [01:30]
benkay well they still have to work their asses off to hire both the managers and those who toil under the managers. [01:31]
mircea_popescu they could just post on reddit. [01:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0430001 = 0.559 BTC [-] {2} [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.04205659 = 2.229 BTC [-] {4} [01:37]
asciilifeform betcha plenty of folks would move to Ar, but... are waiting for mircea_popescu to terraform it. [01:39]
TheNewDeal lol [01:39]
TheNewDeal with cocaine ecoli? [01:39]
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mircea_popescu no they just don't like tight cona [01:40]
asciilifeform build the radiation dome, fill with breathable air, impale the capital controls idiots, etc [01:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2048 = 0.6144 BTC [+] [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00079322 = 18.0854 BTC [-] {2} [01:46]
* asciilifeform found out that japan still makes hardware 'word processors.' mindfuck of the day. [01:46]
benkay link or gtfo [01:47]
mircea_popescu coincidentally, i saw one today [01:47]
asciilifeform ;;google pomera word processor [01:47]
gribble Pomera DM 100 Distraction free Word processor - Japanese product ...: ; Digital Memo Pomera : DigInfo - YouTube: ; King Jim Pomera DM10 – the pocket friendly word-processor | The ...: [01:47]
asciilifeform ^ actual electrical appliance where you key in and save plain ascii. [01:47]
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asciilifeform (my position on the subject: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-2909) [01:49]
assbot Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin [01:49]
asciilifeform 'I would dearly love a dedicated word processor... runs for months on one battery charge, never crashes, presents no distractions, and, shortly, isn’t a PC. Not being a PC (or, more specifically, not running a PC operating system) is a truly under-rated and beautiful feature in any gadget.' [01:49]
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asciilifeform i always found it interesting how much functionality one... loses by rolling a 'general purpose' computer into a product. not even concerning security and the like. [01:55]
asciilifeform i've seen actual novelists confess to owning '80s laptops which... boot into 'wordstar.' but try using one away from mains current. [01:55]
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jurov kindle variant with physical keyboard isn't far actually [01:58]
asciilifeform jurov: you must mean something other than the keyboard already found on that machine ? [01:58]
asciilifeform because it's quite unusable [01:59]
jurov yes it needs better keyboard, and hinge [02:00]
asciilifeform and an os that doesn't bomb [02:00]
jurov would such device ever pay for itself? [02:00]
asciilifeform perhaps in japan. where they seem to remember the appeal of 'machine that does one thing well.' [02:01]
Mats_cd03 best burrito i ever had was in .jp [02:04]
Mats_cd03 and ive lived in socal and mexico. [02:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00078845 = 10.7229 BTC [-] [02:08]
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mircea_popescu !up Pilate [03:25]
-assbot- You voiced Pilate for 30 minutes. [03:25]
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thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo [03:28]
gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 15 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: benkay: Wait till you get to the comments [03:28]
thestringpuller lol [03:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04773875 = 0.9548 BTC [+] [03:28]
thestringpuller !mpif [03:29]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-] [03:29]
thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe [03:29]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078845 / 0.00080967 / 0.0008496 (918961 shares, 744.06 BTC), 7D: 0.00078845 / 0.00081687 / 0.00087778 (4595649 shares, 3,754.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00078845 / 0.0008462 / 0.00093337 (23860305 shares, 20,190.70 BTC) [03:29]
thestringpuller !ticker m f.mpif [03:29]
assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.0002151 / 0.0002151 / 0.0002151 (4000 shares, 0.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021534 / 0.00021726 (4500 shares, 0.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021632 / 0.00021726 (30680 shares, 6.64 BTC) [03:29]
TheNewDeal Pilate, like Pontius? [03:30]
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mircea_popescu !up tjader [03:41]
-assbot- You voiced tjader for 30 minutes. [03:41]
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thestringpuller ;;calc .45 * 2 [03:46]
gribble 0.9 [03:46]
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thestringpuller ;;calc .45 * 0.007 [03:46]
gribble 0.00315 [03:46]
TheNewDeal I was gonna say, .45*2, relaly? [03:46]
thestringpuller i was distracted [03:47]
TheNewDeal I could be marginally comatose and still get away with that [03:47]
TheNewDeal just having some fun. I've been lazy with calculators before as well [03:47]
mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/0b755cd262494d8bad72f34f0d1d9741/tumblr_mjais3vdoN1qij4o1o1_500.jpg [03:49]
TheNewDeal gotta stay away from these links on the work laptop... [03:49]
mircea_popescu defo [03:49]
TheNewDeal I'll just blame it on assbot for not giving me a description [03:52]
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mircea_popescu it's an ass bot, what do you want from it [03:54]
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TheNewDeal tell me what type of ass is featured in the webpage [03:57]
TheNewDeal 0 being no ass, 1 being ass [03:57]
mircea_popescu !up cfused__ [03:57]
-assbot- You voiced cfused__ for 30 minutes. [03:57]
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mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/ec4c4ed0fcf83793b5bf16a6841e5718/tumblr_n2pr89VWnK1r09wbpo1_400.gif << money! [04:06]
TheNewDeal monopoly money [04:09]
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mircea_popescu i thought you didn't do links off work lappy [04:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.0451 = 1.804 BTC [-] [04:15]
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TheNewDeal I said I SHOULDN"T [04:19]
TheNewDeal that's like the exact opposite of "didn't" [04:19]
mircea_popescu a ok [04:19]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4d84c288cd8b25771b067c683a6f682/tumblr_n1qm9sBhgH1t1ja2oo1_400.gif have a prize then [04:19]
TheNewDeal gracias [04:20]
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[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Tesla stock to close at over $250 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/955/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 91(Y):9(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.99 BTC. Current weight: 98,378. [04:53]
TheNewDeal jeez its already at 237 [04:57]
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Mats_cd03 i thought it was a little low [05:44]
Mats_cd03 no accounting for musk mania [05:44]
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BingoBoingo wow check that out, it just HAILED in BA << Is hail not a familiar mode of weather for you? [05:55]
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BingoBoingo mike_c: on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping. << I imagine this is another natural part of having harder money. [05:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20481145 = 0.6144 BTC [+] {2} [06:03]
BingoBoingo %diff [06:03]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 446874.29 in 13 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.53 [06:03]
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BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/nsa-spook-turned-twitter-pundit-goes-dark-after-dick-pi-1594848048 [06:07]
assbot NSA Spook-Turned-Twitter-Pundit Goes Dark After Dick Pic Surfaces [06:07]
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BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SPavcCPR--/781452780514729000.jpg [06:24]
BingoBoingo http://sploid.gizmodo.com/what-the-biggest-companies-are-from-each-state-in-the-u-1595079772/+caseychan [06:25]
assbot What the biggest companies are from each state in the US [06:25]
BingoBoingo Points got to West Virgina where "West Virginia University Hospitals, Inc." is the largest company based there by revenue [06:26]
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BingoBoingo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10918321/Football-match-fixing-deal-casts-cloud-over-World-Cup.html [06:38]
assbot Football match-fixing deal casts cloud over World Cup - Telegraph [06:38]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what do you usually build with on ancient mac os ? [06:56]
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benkay ugh u guise i got a nasty virus [06:57]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Hypercard usually. There's bound to be better tools, but... It tends to work for ancient Mac things [06:58]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i meant - traditional C [06:59]
benkay haskell invaded my computer [06:59]
BingoBoingo That's a good question. I actually don't know if there are any good tools for it. [06:59]
asciilifeform lol [06:59]
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BingoBoingo I've look at Mac OS 6-7.5.1 dev tools, but... That route tends to lead to shitty implementations of pascal or resedit and 68k assembly [07:01]
BingoBoingo Any interesting C programming generally is going to mean moving from mac os to A/UX which... means finding a suitable Mac (68030 based generally) and a hard drive of sufficent capacity [07:05]
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BingoBoingo I've never really done much with C though, haven't done anything with C on an ancient Mac. Problems that tend to push me to finally string together some code tend to be further up the stack. [07:06]
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BingoBoingo One dilema I ponder on sometimes is whether the beauty of the ancient macs was due to the talent of the developers, or due to the beauty of 68k assembly. [07:11]
asciilifeform constraints. [07:12]
asciilifeform no space for a multi-GB turd. [07:12]
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BingoBoingo Comments from the loper blog now make me think of http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/TempleOS.html when I think of successors to the ancient Mac OS legacy [07:13]
assbot The Temple Operating System [07:13]
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moiety mew [07:14]
asciilifeform moiety: latest cat count on street == 17. [07:15]
moiety o.O [07:16]
moiety make it 16 asciilifeform .. go on, you know you want to [07:16]
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moiety i just heard about this doge TMing business, and i can't stop laughing [07:17]
BingoBoingo With a sufficient monetary surplus I think an interesting project would be, introducing feral cats to obesity [07:18]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: doesn't work - they multiply [07:19]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That's the interesting problem [07:19]
moiety win-win? multiple barrel-cats [07:19]
moiety what if they got too fat to mate? [07:20]
BingoBoingo The less interesting challenge is they migrate. [07:20]
moiety and the only ones that could migrate were those uphill that could roll [07:21]
BingoBoingo moiety: But the challenge it introduces is soon you have ALL the feral cats to feed [07:21]
moiety all teh kittehs - challenge accepted [07:22]
moiety someone in the extended family has a pregnant cat.. i may be forced to rehome a small being shortly [07:23]
BingoBoingo Of course you the decreases the value of feral cats. Useful ferals like useful farm cats need to catch vermin [07:23]
BingoBoingo moiety: From your ghetto "BingoB you you need meet chi so the two of you can talk about mauls for days" [07:24]
moiety christ, who's been bothering you? obviously don't know us that well lol [07:25]
BingoBoingo moiety: I just popped on, was I think you should just unilaterally switch the site to altcoin and change the mascots to Manuls [07:25]
asciilifeform moiety: a question that's been bugging me for years: are there actually distinct species (in the biologist's sense) of cat. [07:26]
asciilifeform afaik every hybrid that's ever been attempted in earnest - worked. [07:26]
moiety i miss btc .. this crowd is making me lose sanity/... oh was that the beep i heard? [07:26]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That is the very interesting question. I dunno if cats meaningfully have "species" [07:27]
moiety asciilifeform: yes, i believe so. like the bobcat we were discussing. or manuls. they are fundementally different from others.. eg manuls have round pupils [07:27]
BingoBoingo Except maybe the cheetah with it's canid features. Might not hybridize well. [07:28]
asciilifeform moiety: sure, they look quite different. but normally 'species' is defined as a set of individuals which can interbreed. [07:28]
asciilifeform pretty much every 'felis' hybrid has been tried, afaik, and worked [07:28]
asciilifeform likewise panthera [07:28]
asciilifeform (tiglon, jiger, etc) [07:29]
asciilifeform leopon. [07:29]
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asciilifeform examples of felis - 'savannah cat' (domesticus + african serval) [07:29]
moiety ah.. then yeah, not that i know of either [07:29]
asciilifeform search, youtube is full of hybrid felis [07:29]
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asciilifeform then the '$64k question' - can we bridge felis and panthera? [07:30]
asciilifeform i.e. does there exist 'bridge cat' [07:30]
asciilifeform a felis that can breed with some panthera [07:30]
moiety asciilifeform: your opinion on word sound.... for my site (eventually) felidae or felinae sound better to you? [07:31]
moiety i think with felis and panthera we come into a size issue? [07:31]
asciilifeform afaik felidae is standard [07:31]
asciilifeform size issue << this is for the 'farmer' to solve via the usual means (artificial insemination) [07:31]
BingoBoingo Headline "Tomcat behind highway rest stop knocks up Zoo lioness" [07:32]
moiety BingoBoingo: ah yes thats the mid-sex-change dramatis lilyius. a testing pillar of "my ghetto" [07:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04599644 = 0.552 BTC [-] {2} [07:33]
* asciilifeform can't seem to find his copy of 'felid hybrids' (great 1970s monograph) [07:33]
asciilifeform ^ claimed a successful 'house lynx' [07:34]
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moiety when they do hybrid, they do seem to turn out just smaller versions of the bigger species [07:35]
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BingoBoingo moiety: Not always smaller... The main coon is no longer the largest "domestic" cat [07:36]
asciilifeform who holds the record? [07:36]
* asciilifeform almost expects to hear 'longcat' [07:36]
moiety i do believe it is main coons for the record. they /are/ gigantic [07:37]
moiety no longer? [07:37]
moiety what is now [07:38]
BingoBoingo ;;google savannah cat [07:38]
gribble Savannah cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Savannahs For Sale Savannah Cats For Sale - A1 Savannahs: ; A Beautiful Relationship - Savannah Cat MAGIC and Andreas Stucki ...: [07:38]
moiety so my dream of a giant manul is not unthinkable? [07:38]
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moiety i shall ride the shops on it [07:39]
moiety to the * [07:39]
BingoBoingo Not all savannah cats are huge, but in the later generations they get Big [07:39]
asciilifeform some years ago, a savannah cat escaped in my town, and caused idiots to panic [07:39]
asciilifeform (they thought it was man-eating) [07:39]
moiety i'd be camping outside with a camera [07:40]
BingoBoingo It probably should have been if they paniced like that [07:40]
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asciilifeform (as i recall, savannah cat is bred in only a few places, and sells for ~$20k each) [07:41]
BingoBoingo moiety: You first challenge probably is "manul with robust immune system" [07:41]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: give it another two decades, and you'll find them among the other ferals [07:42]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not so sure about this. ferals tend to be small - probably adaptive, considering the food supply [07:42]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: People don't have small dogs in your neighborhood? [07:42]
asciilifeform lol [07:43]
moiety true they are so fragile D; [07:43]
BingoBoingo So a friend adopted a kitten, looks like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cat-MaineCoon-Cookie.png hasn't stopped growing yet. I'm wondering when to break the news... [07:44]
assbot File:Cat-MaineCoon-Cookie.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [07:44]
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moiety just at any point before they need both arms to pick it up BB [07:46]
BingoBoingo He worries that it is getting "fat" but... It grows in every direction. [07:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 394 @ 0.04213652 = 16.6018 BTC [-] {25} [07:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00078709 = 7.3986 BTC [-] [07:50]
BingoBoingo Including "mouth span" [07:51]
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moiety cats don't seem to grow like dogs either. as in reaching a certain size at a certain age and stopping. mine have kept growing (albeit slowly) until mid-age [07:58]
BingoBoingo Despite Barricelli’s pioneering experiments, barely anyone remembers him. “I have not heard of him to tell you the truth,” says Mark Bedau, professor of humanities and philosophy at Reed College and editor of the journal Artificial Life. “I probably know more about the history than most in the field and I’m not aware of him.” http://nautil.us/issue/14/mutation/meet-the-father-of-digital-life [07:58]
assbot Meet the Father of Digital Life - Issue 14: Mutation - Nautilus [07:58]
moiety !up cowloon [07:58]
BingoBoingo moiety: That's true [07:58]
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moiety BingoBoingo: i can see your friend sitting looking at this giant wondering if it will ever stop lol [07:59]
moiety hello cowloon [07:59]
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benkay http://sysmagazine.com/posts/217799/ "fleshstore" [08:05]
assbot How to reduce costs by the virtual data-processing center by means of flesh-store USB IT daily blog, news, magazine, technologies [08:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20485992 = 2.0486 BTC [-] {3} [08:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.03995847 = 1.9979 BTC [-] {6} [08:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03954732 = 1.1864 BTC [-] {4} [08:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03637586 = 0.7275 BTC [-] {5} [08:15]
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BingoBoingo %book [08:23]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 [08:23]
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BingoBoingo So... GNU Gnash seems to have improved quite a bit these past couple weeks. [08:33]
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moiety i didn't even know there was such a thing, was just reading about it. how has it improved? [08:37]
BingoBoingo moiety: It now works with Hulu [08:50]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not that familiar, no. besides, it shoul;dn't really be seaside weather. [08:50]
BingoBoingo Ah, hail's the thing that happens here at least annually and depresses motor vehicle prices [08:51]
moiety BingoBoingo: you get the weirdest weather i have ever heard of [08:56]
mircea_popescu shithole of the world :D [08:57]
BingoBoingo moiety: I though this was just standard for not living on an Island [08:57]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i was born in a place where wind over 50mph was newsworthy [08:57]
moiety i thought that was uk mircea_popescu? or can't we even excel at that now?! [08:57]
mircea_popescu moiety world can have mu;tiple assholes i guess [08:58]
BingoBoingo sub 100mph doesn't really make the news unless it spins [08:59]
moiety i have been searching for the least windy place to live [08:59]
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BingoBoingo Wind isn't so bad, it is cleasing. [09:02]
BingoBoingo Gives the trees character! [09:03]
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BingoBoingo Now flooding, that never happpens without making a mess. [09:04]
fluffypony morning frendz [09:04]
BingoBoingo fluffypony: penguirker better light up! [09:04]
fluffypony BingoBoingo: at Frankfurt, only flying to Estonia in an hour [09:04]
fluffypony the conference only starts on Thursday [09:05]
fluffypony runs till Sunday [09:05]
BingoBoingo %book [09:10]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 [09:10]
BingoBoingo %book [09:10]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 [09:10]
BingoBoingo %diff [09:10]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 445034.21 in 9 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.79 [09:11]
moiety they are giving us all these different little bins for different recycling here.. in scotland.. they will just blow about ... into things... causing damage... unsure i can take the stress [09:13]
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BingoBoingo %book [09:23]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 1M@199 33k@177 750k@175 [09:23]
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BingoBoingo %diff [09:26]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 444380.80 in 8 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.88 [09:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18160 @ 0.00078668 = 14.2861 BTC [-] {2} [09:27]
BingoBoingo Next ATC statement already more interesting than last, how interesting can it get? [09:29]
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BingoBoingo !jd [09:36]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 18.4k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered [09:36]
BingoBoingo !jd mpif [09:36]
assbot Bad JD response. [09:36]
BingoBoingo !Bad JD [09:36]
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fluffypony lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlA_YXDm9bg [09:48]
assbot Things you're doing wrong every day: everything. - YouTube [09:48]
xmj fluffypony: do you have wifi on the plane? [09:48]
fluffypony xmj: I had on the flight here, but from FRA to TLN I don't think so [09:49]
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xmj yeah, improbable - they usually fly A319 or 320 -without WiFi [09:54]
BingoBoingo Moore's Law http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/supercomputer-slowdown-worlds-fastest-system-sees-no-new-challengers/ [09:59]
assbot Supercomputer slowdown: Worlds fastest system sees no new challengers | Ars Technica [09:59]
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Apocalyptic hum, strong bids on x-bt [09:59]
BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Looks like it [10:04]
BingoBoingo %diff [10:04]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 444380.80 in 8 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.88 [10:04]
BingoBoingo Might explain why [10:04]
Apocalyptic indeed, everyone expecting the hoppers' selloff most likely [10:05]
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BingoBoingo I've notice it has been a while since anyone sold into a bid [10:18]
punkman ;;bc,stats [10:19]
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gribble Current Blocks: 307518 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 929 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 3 hours, 52 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16487794874.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.47129 [10:19]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.16299681 BTC. Current weight: 5,080. [10:25]
BingoBoingo Hashpower is the worst [10:25]
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punkman http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/23/josie-cunningham-gets-6000-taxpayer-taxi-rides-_n_5520892.html [10:42]
assbot Josie Cunningham Gets 6,000 Of Taxpayer Funded Taxi Rides A Year [10:42]
punkman why don't they buy her a car [10:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04099999 = 0.943 BTC [+] [10:46]
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BingoBoingo punkman: Parking is a pain [10:54]
punkman http://www.economist.com/node/21603828 [11:04]
assbot GOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLL! | The Economist [11:04]
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-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [18:04]
BingoBoingo 2 Blocks to ATC diff change [18:05]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:05]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.73, Best ask: 586.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 586.99, 24 hour volume: 4255.87860255, 24 hour low: 582.0, 24 hour high: 591.92, 24 hour vwap: 586.544403643 [18:05]
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jurov ;;ticker --currency eur [18:08]
gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 430.848545, Best ask: 431.775275, Bid-ask spread: 0.92673, Last trade: 431.775275, 24 hour volume: 4266.35277512, 24 hour low: 428.061, 24 hour high: 435.35716, 24 hour vwap: 431.403388611 [18:08]
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BingoBoingo OMG watch out the Lebron BitBet http://deadspin.com/lebronapocalypse-1595238462/+tcberman not much action so far... http://bitbet.us/bet/960/lebron-james-to-take-his-talents-elsewhere/?ref=16wAZSsL8BFNFM8WCsrE8pwwFkhDErWiok [18:11]
assbot Agent: LeBron Will Opt Out Of Miami Contract, Become Free Agent [18:11]
assbot BitBet - LeBron James to take his talents elsewhere :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closing in 3 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`864 (100`000 to 1) [18:11]
BingoBoingo "At this point, we don't know anything about LeBron's plans other than the fact that he is opting out of his current contract. This doesn't necessarily mean that he is bolting Miami for another team. This could be LeBron positioning himself to re-sign with the Heat at a discounted rate so they can build a better team around him, and it could even be the first step in the elaborate bring-Melo-to-Miami scheme that was reportedly bei [18:13]
BingoBoingo ng explored earlier this month." [18:13]
mircea_popescu "This could be LeBron positioning himself to re-sign with the Heat at a discounted rate so they can build a better team around him" [18:14]
mircea_popescu ahahaha WHAT THE FUCK [18:14]
mircea_popescu "he's opting out to give us more money" [18:14]
mircea_popescu what do they put in the us water supply ? dumbherb ? [18:14]
[]bot Bet placed: 6 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.16299681 BTC. Current weight: 4,727. [18:15]
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mircea_popescu also in the news, http://37.media.tumblr.com/99316fc4d80511b4d7ea955e66ff9874/tumblr_n19n9ml8KO1t3904qo1_500.jpg [18:16]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well... in most of the US maintaining water delivery infrastructure is a low priority... Lead pipes are a menace not unlike aluminium mains wiring [18:18]
mircea_popescu i guess they must be [18:18]
BingoBoingo It isn't unheard of for athletes to take less money, but it always happens when the contract has expired or when they want to negotiate for more years at less money per year. [18:22]
mike_c well, salary isn't their total income. they can make more in aggregate by being on a winning team (endorsements, etc.) [18:23]
BingoBoingo Never though for the cause of "I want less to be the shiniest specialest person on the team" [18:23]
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jurov btw lead pipes aren't the problem, water tends to deposit minerals to the sides that limit lead poisoning [18:26]
jurov but the fact that nobody knows where the pipes are at all [18:26]
jurov in NYC large part of water is not even paid for because of this [18:26]
mircea_popescu mike_c they're going to be on a winning team by moving to one that can pay, [18:29]
mircea_popescu not by subsidizing idiots. [18:29]
mircea_popescu jurov true. [18:29]
mike_c yeah, but national sports are monopolies. teams have salary caps. [18:31]
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asciilifeform re: russian 'arm' cpu hype << same sad story as 'elbrus' company. the latter started out as a somewhat original superscalar design, ended up a cheap pentium clone. they succumbed to the temptation of the ussr starting in '70s - clone common cpu, run l33t w4r3z. [18:33]
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BingoBoingo Is it sad that I find the HP "the machine" announcement more encouraging than the Russian arm one? [18:37]
asciilifeform neither is particularly interesting, imho. both intend to run the same idiot stack forever. [18:38]
BingoBoingo The HP stuff seems interesting at least for what can be done with used stuff 10 years after release. [18:39]
BingoBoingo 10-20 years out will be interesting in any scenario simply because of how will people react to bumping against Moore's law at the least. [18:40]
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BingoBoingo Who knows maybe once fabs bottom out around 5nm people might start making "sea of gates" FPGAs again [18:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 106 @ 0.04100211 = 4.3462 BTC [-] {4} [18:45]
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jurov BingoBoingo: MSFT already does, have you seen? [18:46]
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BingoBoingo jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind... [18:47]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if it's a 'xilinx' or 'altera' - you're stuck with the vendor's closed turd. [18:48]
jurov oh that, will come naturally after sufficiently smart compilers [18:48]
asciilifeform both of the major (well, only ones worth mentioning) fpga vendors make most of their profit from renting out license to use their libraries (ethernet controller, soft cpu cores, etc.) and not from hardware. hence the tightly closed architectures. [18:49]
asciilifeform (reasoning being, were they to open the specs, anyone could cut open the libs and never pay the ransom) [18:49]
BingoBoingo At some point the price of fabbing "state of the art" will go down, simply because "state of the art" hits a wall. [18:49]
asciilifeform state of the art in, e.g. steel production, hasn't changed in decades [18:50]
asciilifeform own a backyard steel mill ? [18:50]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-12-2013&bots=true#432847 [18:51]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [18:51]
BingoBoingo Well, I've reprocess aluminum there before. [18:52]
BingoBoingo *reprocessed [18:52]
asciilifeform it may very well be possible to produce 'backyard cpu,' but refinement of traditional fabrication methods won't get you there [18:53]
asciilifeform 'can't get to the moon by piling up chairs' [18:53]
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BingoBoingo I'm not thinking backyard, I'm thinking whoever Avalon et al hired to do their baking. [18:54]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> jurov: It's not just that there are FPGAs though, but a certain kind... << it's actually likely to see a proper war around this. [18:59]
mircea_popescu denying chips is pretty much the best way to keep people doing service "jobs". [18:59]
moiety http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/24/cheng-cheng-boy-2-addicted-to-alcohol-in-chinas-anhui-province-4773587/ [18:59]
assbot Cheng Cheng: Boy, 2, addicted to alcohol in China's Anhui province | Metro News [18:59]
* asciilifeform remembers one of the less-discussed reasons for vietnam war - the buggers had the temerity to build semiconductor plants [19:00]
* jurov is sad nobody seemed to notice the "sufficiently spart compilers" snark [19:00]
moiety BingoBoingo: you didn't visit china a couple years back did you? [19:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78645505 BTC to 9`565 shares, 18677 satoshi per share [19:00]
mircea_popescu jurov we're just waking up over here lol [19:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform their temerity runs in the fambly it seems. they now have the temerity to fight china over sea oil. [19:01]
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BingoBoingo moiety: Nah [19:02]
BingoBoingo jurov: But pointing out that snark might highlight it too agressively for certain listeners... [19:03]
mike_c jurov: is this working? https://coinroll.it/stats bets counter is going up but nothing showing in table [19:07]
assbot Coinroll [19:07]
jurov use https://coinroll.com/stats [19:08]
assbot Coinroll [19:08]
mike_c ah [19:08]
jurov we migrated the domain [19:09]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re: your x11 wm post: the funny thing is, i originally grew fond of 'ratpoison' wm precisely because, years ago, as student, i used an uncommonly small laptop. [19:12]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: (you mentioned wanting a traditional wm specifically for miniature computers, which i found odd) [19:12]
* mircea_popescu feels an urge to contribute, and so http://38.media.tumblr.com/43ddab4f04de339735f1450d7d8d5fff/tumblr_n1mx0hovad1qgp9ipo1_500.jpg [19:14]
asciilifeform lol! [19:15]
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benkay http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/189965-Que-pasara-con-el-valor-del-dolar-si-la-Argentina-le-paga-a-los-fondos-buitre [19:25]
assbot Qu pasar con el valor del dlar si la Argentina le paga a los fondos buitre? [19:25]
mircea_popescu not much either way. [19:27]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: interesting [19:32]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: example of this machine: http://www.notanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/gentoo_libretto.jpg << the circular object underneath 'intel' sticker is the mouse. two buttons on the back of lid. [19:34]
mthreat https://twitter.com/apbarros/status/481157619261116416 [19:34]
assbot Wanna know the pwd for the Brasil world cup security center WiFi nw? It's on the whiteboard ;-) /hashtag/fail?src=hash http://t.co/XD6ujqk5nq [19:34]
asciilifeform ^ when this is your 'mouse,' mouseless wm is appealing. [19:34]
BingoBoingo It must be [19:34]
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mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg [19:36]
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jurov https://dicesoft.net/projects/wildcard-code-execution-exploit.htm [19:44]
assbot Bash glob arbitrary code execution [19:44]
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benkay haha [19:47]
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benkay i thought a neighbor was leaving for the morning, and ran outside in my underoos to return a key [19:47]
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benkay turns out it was another neighbor's girl, my ins broker [19:47]
Mats_cd03 im in the same room as bruce schneier right now [19:47]
Mats_cd03 his ponytail is scruffy. [19:47]
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benkay amusingly, the one who won't ride his bike naked [19:47]
pankkake Mats_cd03: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-suspect-schneier-is-an-us-agent/ [19:48]
assbot Why I suspect Schneier is an US agent. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:48]
Mats_cd03 i have read it [19:49]
Mats_cd03 dude is too much of a hippie fuck for that to be true [19:49]
Mats_cd03 incompetent, maybe [19:49]
Mats_cd03 http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/06/gettys [19:50]
assbot [Today] (In)Security in Home Embedded Devices | Berkman Center [19:50]
pankkake I didn't picture him as a hippie (and certainly not incompetent) [19:50]
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davout has -assets already discussed DigitalBTC (digitalbtc.com) ? [19:54]
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pankkake http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=digitalbtc [19:55]
assbot digitalbtc [19:55]
mircea_popescu benkay so did you return her key ? [19:56]
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pankkake re http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg - that's the only kind of panties that should be allowed [19:56]
benkay pf no wrong girl [19:56]
mike_c hah, look at that. search.b-a is so much better than google site:logs.b-a. [19:57]
mircea_popescu jurov that's been known for a while no ? [19:57]
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jurov yes. but it never ceases to entertain me [19:58]
mircea_popescu dude is too much of a hippie fuck for that to be true << o.O [19:58]
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mircea_popescu jurov actually if it ever gets "fixed" i guess asciilifeform's point about how linux goes to shit like everything goes to shit under the pressurte of popularity wil lbe quite breathtakingly proven [20:00]
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benkay so the girl and i've been perverting the refrain to "rock me like a hurricane" all morning [20:01]
benkay particular winners: [20:01]
benkay "whorricane" [20:01]
benkay "dock me like a faggot king" [20:01]
mircea_popescu ... [20:01]
benkay i had to dig up a demonstration of docking for that one to make sense to the lady [20:01]
TomServo a...demonstration? [20:02]
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mircea_popescu TomServo he prolly doesn't know the old meaning of the term [20:02]
benkay doesn't a whoreicane sound great? [20:02]
benkay what, docking or demonstrations? [20:02]
benkay ;;ud dock [20:02]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dock | Dock. to place the foreskin of your dick over someone else's penis head. Clay Aiken docked Lance Bass when he came out of the closet. by hitman912 ... [20:02]
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benkay there is a whole internet of examples... [20:02]
mircea_popescu benkay "and if you don't, they dock ya" [20:03]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS42yIDQX6s [20:03]
assbot ... and they dock ya! - YouTube [20:03]
BingoBoingo ;;ud sound docking [20:03]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sound%20Docking | The act of inserting one's penis into another man's urethra. See also Sounding and Docking. [20:03]
benkay what movie's that from? [20:05]
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benkay hudsucker proxy... [20:06]
mircea_popescu hudsucker ya [20:06]
BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com docking [20:07]
gribble Have you played Elite back in the 80s ? pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: ; The theory behind the alternative EVE corporation pe Trilema - Un ...: ; The bezzle-USD and the tide-USD pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: [20:07]
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[]bot Bet placed: 2.2 BTC for No on "World Cup 2014: English to net more than 6 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/939/ Odds: 6(Y):94(N) by coin, 8(Y):92(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.7986 BTC. Current weight: 66,270. [20:13]
BingoBoingo %diff [20:14]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 436273.12 in 1 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.01 [20:14]
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atcbot 51 minutes and 22 seconds [20:15]
BingoBoingo %book [20:15]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 1000k@199 33k@177 750k@175 [20:15]
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davout pankkake: thx! [20:20]
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Mats_cd03 sum of this talk: embedded devices r fucked, forever, but you can reduce the attack surface by installing openwrt. [20:34]
Mats_cd03 imo, pr0j3k7 m4yh3m is how this gets triaged [20:34]
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mircea_popescu or by using better embeded stuff [20:36]
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BingoBoingo %tslb [20:44]
atcbot 21 minutes and 51 seconds [20:44]
BingoBoingo %diff [20:44]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 511511.43 in 2016 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 0.00 [20:44]
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atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 199 VWAP: 216 [20:45]
mircea_popescu !up Menno [20:45]
-assbot- You voiced Menno for 30 minutes. [20:45]
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BingoBoingo !jd [20:47]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 8.7k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered [20:47]
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mike_c 40k divested so far. not bad. [20:57]
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Apocalyptic wait, only 8.7k invested [21:01]
Apocalyptic what happened ? [21:01]
mike_c they shut down [21:02]
rithm wah wah wah [21:05]
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Apocalyptic I see, missed the news [21:12]
[]bot Bet created: "Michelle Keegan to be FHM's 2015 Sexiest Woman" http://bitbet.us/bet/963/ [21:13]
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justusranvier mircea_popescu: You were right about my most recent article sucking in terms of prose. I'm going to fix that after I finish writing part 2. [21:14]
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Mats_cd03 mircea_popescu: and the devices in existence? what about them? [21:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.041031 = 0.8206 BTC [-] [21:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.041031 = 0.6975 BTC [-] [21:30]
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pankkake http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/24/1815200/china-starts-outsourcing-from--the-us [22:04]
assbot China Starts Outsourcing From ... the US - Slashdot [22:04]
moiety hmm docking... my eyes get wider every day in here.... :] [22:05]
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mike_c hm. bitcoind says that when you encrypt your wallet, previous backups of unencrypted wallet will no longer work. this seems.. impossible. [22:09]
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mike_c either previous backup could send those coins or it couldn't. i dun get it. [22:09]
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mike_c ah, because it lies. this makes sense. [22:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 100 @ 0.0559801 = 5.598 BTC [+] {2} [22:15]
mike_c !t h rent [22:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00350000 / 0.00361356 / 0.00399990 (185 shares, 0.66850777 BTC), 7D: 0.00350000 / 0.00420716 / 0.00452500 (2122 shares, 8.92760209 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.00412542 / 0.00568031 (5652 shares, 23.31686459 BTC) [22:15]
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fluffypony ;;rated xmj [22:22]
gribble You have not yet rated user xmj [22:22]
fluffypony ;;rate xmj 1 not only have we broken bread, but we have broken wild boar. Also, took me on a tour of Old Town, Tallinn, Estonia. [22:23]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xmj has been recorded. [22:23]
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fluffypony lol [22:36]
fluffypony goat was going to come to the conference? [22:36]
fluffypony "im sorry again i cant make it. i have two different personal things making this not doable. im very sorry." [22:36]
rithm chaaaaaaaang-nooooi [22:37]
thestringpuller fluffypony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [22:37]
thestringpuller riithtttttttthhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [22:37]
fluffypony thestringpuller!!!!!!!1111oneoneoneonetyone [22:37]
thestringpuller hooray for internet! [22:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.21974574 = 2.1975 BTC [+] {5} [22:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04101171 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {3} [22:45]
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asciilifeform http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/quantifiably-unsane-vessyl [22:53]
assbot Quantifiably unsane: Vessyl | Locklin on science [22:54]
[]bot Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.26299681 BTC. Current weight: 4,512. [23:00]
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Mats_cd03 xmj and fluffypony sitting in a tree [23:17]
jurov xmj riding fluffypony [23:18]
Mats_cd03 k-i-s-s-i-n-g [23:19]
Mats_cd03 whoa thats explicit this is a PG channel [23:19]
jurov waitwhat k*ssing is explicit nao? [23:20]
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jurov speak up damnit :D [23:41]
cedivad so, hashfast got 20 millions in and they were able to destroy all of that value. [23:41]
cedivad I'm looking at the filing right now. [23:41]
cedivad they must have won something [23:41]
cedivad ct got something like 25M and are doing just fine [23:41]
jurov what did hashfast blow $$ on? [23:43]
jurov http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/bitcoin-miner-startup-hashfast-could-be-forced-to-liquidate-itself/ hehe [23:44]
assbot Bitcoin miner startup HashFast could be forced to liquidate | Ars Technica [23:44]
jurov The involuntary bankruptcy filing came days after HashFast’s CEO told Ars that his company was “as poor as church mice.” Prior to that, the company fired half of its staff and declared “we’re not scammers.” [23:44]
cedivad they basically decided to destroy the company in December when they saw that they would have had huge lawsuits against them due to their lies [23:45]
cedivad so they sinked the ship and got everything out via alternative means, imho [23:46]
cedivad what they spent 20M on... Good question, the filings are not answering to that for now [23:46]
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jurov linked article mentions parnership with some PepperMining anon company, maybe that was it [23:48]
cedivad nah, that was the tip of the iceberg. And ars is good, but not good enought. it's difficult for us to understand what is really going on, a jurnalist cannot do miracles [23:49]
jurov you're from ars? [23:50]
jborkl peppermining is jsut two guys buying chips [23:51]
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cedivad lol, no. I'm a poor guy that spent more than what should have lost pre-ordering from HashLabs [23:51]
jborkl they said "accounting is a wreck and can't find millions" <- probably is there [23:52]
Mats_cd03 best case, it went into holding btc and the guys at the top are making out like princes. [23:53]
Mats_cd03 worst case... poor house. [23:53]
Mats_cd03 and american prisons. [23:54]
cedivad yes, there are many addresses we know of that holded our BTC payments since August/September [23:55]
cedivad Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that. [23:56]
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