Forum logs for 23 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
pankkake no but I mean, if he wanted to bet after the fact, and it got included, say, 10 min after the fact [00:00]
pankkake the bet would not be closed [00:00]
mircea_popescu this is true [00:00]
pankkake and he would get refunded with 1% fee [00:00]
pankkake and I think those cases should have a higher fee [00:00]
mircea_popescu perhaps, but we're running into clerical complications [00:00]
pankkake but it depends, sometimes the better genuinly doesn't know… [00:00]
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mircea_popescu the correct way is to have the bets close as close to actual time as possible [00:00]
mircea_popescu anyway, 100% is clean. any other value is "why not less ?" [00:01]
mircea_popescu 1% is equal to the rake, so that's stable. [00:01]
mircea_popescu and tbh i'dmuch rather one guy get hit for 100% once a year, go berserk and thus warn all other wannabe scumfaces, [00:02]
mircea_popescu than it being a constant occurence. [00:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.12724 = 1.2724 BTC [+] {3} [00:02]
smickles wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar) [00:03]
mircea_popescu i dunno but some people like doing that. [00:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.512 = 2.56 BTC [-] {2} [00:08]
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mike_c fwiw, when you run a gambling operation you need to be draconian and ruthless. Not cry over stupid gamblers. This is why mp is better suited to run a gambling operation than dooglus. [00:13]
mike_c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3570809#msg3570809 [00:13]
ozbot Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 188 @ 0.00066 = 0.1241 BTC [+] [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.50255 = 1.0051 BTC [-] {2} [00:14]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 47221 @ 0.00066 = 31.1659 BTC [+] [00:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.49 = 1.96 BTC [-] {2} [00:16]
mike_c you want to know the best part? snackman will continue to bet on bitbet in a desperate attempt to get his money back. [00:17]
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mircea_popescu maybe it works out for him and he gains englightment. [00:17]
mircea_popescu definitely a bunch of bets that are (or at least seem to me) out of odds. if he actually sits down and figures shit out he's prolly +ev [00:20]
mike_c hahah. lolz [00:20]
mike_c he couldn't even sit down and read the faq [00:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00509166 = 0.1629 BTC [-] {5} [00:20]
mircea_popescu this being after all the one reason parimutuel rules. pretty much the only place you can consistently get +ev if you're using the head. [00:21]
mircea_popescu mike_c ya well... 7:1 or something :p [00:21]
kakobrekla given your bets are not tamperd with. [00:22]
mircea_popescu who tampers with bets ? [00:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4502 BTC [-] [00:22]
kakobrekla you know, the bitcointalk downtime. [00:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.45010001 = 1.3503 BTC [-] {2} [00:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.4500109 = 16.6504 BTC [-] {2} [00:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.0046805 = 0.9876 BTC [+] {5} [00:25]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 295 @ 0.00468 = 1.3806 BTC [-] {2} [00:26]
mircea_popescu propositions, different thing! [00:27]
kakobrekla yea yeah [00:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 144 @ 0.00453563 = 0.6531 BTC [-] {6} [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4501 BTC [+] [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00066 = 0.165 BTC [+] [00:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.004389 = 0.1492 BTC [-] [00:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [00:28]
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BigBitz Wow... BitBet and the 10BTC incident. lol. Brutal. [00:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.045589 = 0.3191 BTC [-] [00:31]
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mircea_popescu BigBitz at least it keeps bitcoin price up. [00:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.002009 = 0.2572 BTC [+] [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.18705001 = 0.9353 BTC [+] [00:44]
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jborkl https://blockchain.info/tx/1c12443203a48f42cdf7b1acee5b4b1c1fedc144cb909a3bf5edbffafb0cd204 [00:49]
ozbot Bitcoin Transaction 1c12443203a48f42cdf7b1acee5b4b1c1fedc144cb909a3bf5edbffafb0cd204 [00:49]
jborkl you see that Mircea [00:49]
mircea_popescu jborkl yea ? [00:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+] [00:50]
jborkl 194000 BTC [00:50]
jborkl I like how blockchain tagged it shitloadofmoney [00:50]
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mircea_popescu afaik anyone can tag an addy [00:51]
jborkl ah, didn't know that [00:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.49947499 = 1.9979 BTC [+] {3} [00:52]
Apocalyptic yep mircea [00:52]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/#c1858 [00:52]
ozbot BitBet - And Then There Was One [00:52]
mircea_popescu ppl make bets, then my ego gets called into question. [00:53]
mircea_popescu woe is me. [00:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+] [00:54]
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Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, is Kodric the guy running Bitstamp ? [00:55]
kakobrekla yes [00:55]
mircea_popescu possibly [00:55]
Apocalyptic damn, didn't expect him to answer support tickets [00:55]
mircea_popescu incidentally, i wonder how long before bitbet broker springs up, dedicated to making bets for noobs in a safe and pleasant fashion. [00:55]
kakobrekla make a bet [00:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5005 @ 0.00066 = 3.3033 BTC [+] {2} [00:56]
mircea_popescu no cause my ego. [00:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00077931 = 5.7669 BTC [+] [01:00]
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mircea_popescu incidentally, the snackman dood is this jewish kid : http://d13pix9kaak6wt.cloudfront.net/avatar/users/s/a/m/sam.weinrott_1360387671_08.jpg [01:02]
mircea_popescu 24 yo, south philly. [01:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00201136 = 0.1368 BTC [+] {2} [01:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.0020929 = 0.427 BTC [+] [01:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46000001 BTC [-] [01:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00409 = 0.1513 BTC [-] [01:22]
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BigBitz Apocalyptic he runs it with some of his friends. [01:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0041 = 0.2993 BTC [+] [01:23]
BigBitz all local guys. [01:23]
BigBitz noone out side of Slovenia and noone he doesn't know personally. [01:23]
Apocalyptic ok good to know [01:23]
BigBitz in regards to Nejc. [01:23]
BigBitz I spoke to him at BTC London. He's a nice dude. [01:24]
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jurov` lol bitbet broker.. does it have an API? [01:30]
mircea_popescu kako is working on json yeah [01:32]
mircea_popescu it doesn't really need more than that, addies are automatic. [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46100001 BTC [+] [01:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0041 = 0.4592 BTC [+] [01:33]
benkay mircea_popescu we demand accounts on bitbet [01:34]
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benkay and zero-conf bet funding [01:35]
jurov` myeah, without password you don't feel secure enough [01:35]
mircea_popescu lol [01:35]
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mircea_popescu you can type a password in the search field at the start of each session. [01:36]
mircea_popescu it's very safe, can never be lost to hackers etc. [01:36]
benkay will you also set up 2fa cardano on my electrum wallet? [01:36]
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mircea_popescu uh. [01:37]
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thestringpuller !ticker havelock am1 [01:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.38800000 / 0.45779031 / 0.58289999 (586 shares, 268.26512301 BTC), 7D: 0.23500000 / 0.44204528 / 0.63280000 (2526 shares, 1116.60636764 BTC), 30D: 0.23500000 / 0.60374745 / 1.06000000 (6944 shares, 4192.42229083 BTC) [01:42]
thestringpuller daman son [01:42]
thestringpuller daaayyumn [01:42]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 380 @ 0.00066 = 0.2508 BTC [+] [01:57]
thestringpuller ;;seen mod6 [01:59]
gribble mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 59 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: i like the article mp [01:59]
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pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342791.0 [02:03]
ozbot Are They All Scams? [02:03]
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deadweasel love them titties PR [02:08]
mike_c whatever you are paying her to hang out in the den of retardation all day - it's not enough. [02:09]
deadweasel i'm sure it is,. [02:09]
deadweasel he should pay her more and have her hang out here too :P [02:09]
jurov` in some mpoe report her salary was disclosed [02:09]
pankkake French subforum is very depressing right now [02:09]
pankkake sooo many users that are just going to get burned [02:10]
jurov` 30BTC or so montly? [02:10]
deadweasel crikey, I don't wanna know, I'll be depressed either way [02:10]
deadweasel too late [02:10]
mircea_popescu jurov` in all of them. she's making more than a us senator atm. [02:10]
jurov` ^^^ [02:10]
deadweasel lovely, every sataoshi well spent [02:10]
mike_c even a us senator doesn't have to put up with that level of stupidity [02:10]
mircea_popescu mike_c depends if he sleeps at home. [02:11]
jurov` lol [02:11]
jurov` !bash 3 [02:11]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1479454/plain/) [02:11]
mike_c 12 btc a month. worth every satoshi. [02:13]
pankkake (translated) "if you buy bitcoins to speculate, you should know that 1 btc is divisible by 8 decimals, so it won't be worth much" [02:15]
thestringpuller hahahaha [02:16]
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jurov` rofl [02:17]
pankkake many French noobs want to buy litecoin it seems (but they barely understand what is a bitcoin address) [02:18]
pankkake some full of spelling errors wanted to buy litecoins with paypal [02:18]
pankkake they also mispell it litcoin [02:18]
pankkake well, litecoin pump and dump incoming? you read it here first! [02:18]
mircea_popescu litcoin. so they wanna buy it cause they figure it gets girls ? [02:19]
pankkake I read a lot of books, I don't have a girl. doesn't work [02:20]
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Apocalyptic that moment when you generate a new address and it starts with "1PHP" [02:21]
pankkake the moment you try to find out if you can remove an address? :) [02:21]
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Apocalyptic heh [02:23]
deadweasel how long bitbet around now? [02:23]
pankkake with altcoins you can do funnier stuff. I have Penis, PENiS and ANUS [02:24]
deadweasel you have two cocks?1 [02:25]
mircea_popescu deadweasel about a year. [02:25]
deadweasel Mp, put this man in a moving picture! [02:25]
deadweasel thx [02:25]
pankkake if only! I don't understand why we are not born that way [02:25]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't want two cox [02:25]
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pankkake why do females have two holes? doesn't make sense [02:26]
pankkake perhaps god meant for us to be gay [02:26]
jurov` S.BBET says Listed on : January 5, 2013 [02:26]
jurov` pankkake: how does that follow? [02:26]
jurov` some french logic? [02:27]
mircea_popescu females have three holes. [02:27]
pankkake well, I'll need a third very flexible cock [02:28]
deadweasel females have throat cancer from the hpv i game them, according this article... [02:28]
pankkake and/or be a tentacle monster [02:28]
mircea_popescu you can't give them hpv throat cancer [02:28]
mircea_popescu only they can give it to you [02:28]
deadweasel http://i.imgur.com/ZYxXM.gif [02:28]
deadweasel snackman [02:28]
mircea_popescu i read it in a douglas book [02:28]
deadweasel well shit, damn cunts [02:29]
mircea_popescu A woman screams because a mouse has run over her face. Bedbugs drop from the higher bunks onto the lower. Another woman screams because the little boy in the bunk above her has spilled the jam jar he uses as a chamber pot all over her. Somebody has whooping cough. Another little boy begs his mother not to beat him because in his sleep he wet the bunk he shares with her. She does and he squeals. A former night-club danc [02:29]
mircea_popescu er tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh. A spoilt rich wife has hung her clothes on all available nails, leaving no room for anybody else. The passage ends with: "In 24 out of 24 hours there is never a minute's silence ... [02:29]
mircea_popescu this could be like... our motto. [02:29]
deadweasel does it fit in the top? [02:30]
deadweasel ic? [02:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46100008 = 1.383 BTC [+] {2} [02:30]
deadweasel words broken... topic. [02:30]
mircea_popescu nah, it can be the secret motto noobs don't know about [02:31]
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deadweasel :P [02:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.45611 = 9.1222 BTC [-] {6} [02:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18705001 = 0.3741 BTC [+] [02:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0041 = 0.1394 BTC [-] [02:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00404031 = 0.6182 BTC [-] {2} [02:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0040211 = 0.2131 BTC [-] [02:50]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1003 @ 0.00066 = 0.662 BTC [+] [02:54]
pankkake so the trick was that the address https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343150.msg3678584#msg3678584 was's obama on AssMarket. but no one bothered to google it :/ [02:58]
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mircea_popescu what's assmarket ? [03:10]
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pankkake assassination market [03:12]
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mircea_popescu oh [03:13]
pankkake yeah, bad taste [03:13]
thestringpuller gpg assassination contracts [03:14]
thestringpuller trilema 2.0 [03:14]
thestringpuller jk [03:14]
asciilifeform here's an idea: humiliation market. anyone who gets pie on the face of the victim wins the bounty. [03:14]
asciilifeform humane. [03:15]
pankkake I'm sure Noël Godin takes donation [03:15]
asciilifeform (other humiliations, such as the dummy grenade thrown at mr. bush, could also count.) [03:15]
pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No%C3%ABl_Godin [03:15]
pankkake bill gates sued him but thankfully it didn't cost much [03:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol. [03:16]
mircea_popescu ftr, when i read humiliation i'm thinking more http://www.blog.public-shame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1_blonde_babe_tied_naked_from_lighting_pole_in_public_place.jpg.jpg than pie in face. [03:16]
asciilifeform the exact type of humiliation, naturally, must be specified in advance. [03:17]
pankkake oh, it's Public Disgrace. I thought public-shame would be another one [03:17]
asciilifeform ones that require the subject to be hog-tied in a garret will naturally cost more than a mere splat. [03:17]
pankkake pie in the face works really well. it made our fakeosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy MAD [03:18]
pankkake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36OXrrO3Fc [03:19]
thestringpuller taser handshake [03:20]
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mircea_popescu lol [03:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10151 @ 0.00066 = 6.6997 BTC [+] {2} [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00077931 = 1.8703 BTC [+] [03:32]
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benkay primes, primes primes [03:46]
benkay https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20131119-together-and-alone-closing-the-prime-gap/ [03:46]
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pankkake very interesting [03:49]
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thestringpuller prime numbers are awesome [03:53]
thestringpuller especially big ones [03:53]
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pankkake bigger numbers are always better [03:58]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [11:43]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [11:43]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sun Sep 29 03:06:59 2013 [11:43]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ [12:17]
ozbot The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [12:17]
jacksbueller jefito Jezzz jMyles joesmoe jordandotdev jurov` [12:17]
mircea_popescu pankkake this is what jurov` means :D [12:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00077978 = 13.5292 BTC [+] {2} [12:17]
pankkake did you just write that wall of text? [12:18]
pankkake I hope I made you RAGE with that vid [12:19]
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mircea_popescu i didn't watch teh vid past some ill kept woman going "EVERY DAY!!!!" like she was trying to convince herself of something [12:21]
mircea_popescu but i liked the idea. [12:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00385981 = 0.386 BTC [+] {4} [12:22]
mircea_popescu and yeah i just wrote it, doesn't take me much more than ~20 mins/article or thereabouts. [12:22]
pankkake the "check your privilege everyday is enough" [12:22]
pankkake move the quote [12:22]
mircea_popescu hm ? [12:23]
pankkake the "check your privilege everyday" is enough [12:23]
mircea_popescu fresh lobster breakfast every day ? [12:23]
pankkake http://i1.wp.com/blogitude.com/uploads/2013/02/Lobsters.jpg [12:25]
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KRS- smoke weed....erryday [12:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00066 = 1.65 BTC [+] [13:04]
mircea_popescu lol [13:07]
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pascal257 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer [13:21]
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pascal257 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer [13:46]
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mircea_popescu sooo, eulora has indoors now. [14:10]
pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29 [14:11]
ozbot Pronoia (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [14:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00066 = 0.198 BTC [+] [14:15]
pascal257 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer [14:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.0730005 = 0.657 BTC [-] {2} [14:34]
pascal257 second HIF IPO round only 3 days? [14:43]
pascal257 first day almost over and they sold a little over 1/3 [14:43]
pascal257 interesting [14:44]
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pankkake I doubt the higher tranches will sell [14:44]
pascal257 quite unlikely [14:45]
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pascal257 if they're lucky the last discounted one sells but why would anyone who has not bought yet, buy at "face value"? [14:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00077993 = 4.8356 BTC [+] [14:47]
pankkake yeah, pretty much. the reduced price is a marketing gimmick [14:47]
pankkake it's actually the real price [14:48]
pankkake oldest trick in the book! [14:48]
Apocalyptic pretty much [14:48]
pascal257 so they'll obviously fail at their IPO unless they someone manipulate it [14:48]
Apocalyptic old car salesman trick [14:48]
pankkake should have done it on Black Friday! [14:48]
pascal257 what's next? try again with a lower target? [14:49]
pankkake I think they already stated what would happen actually [14:49]
pascal257 why are they even going public? [14:49]
pascal257 if they're so profitable wouldn't it make more sence to keep the profits for themselves? [14:50]
pankkake they're only selling a little. so not much change in profits, but new capital to do stuff (what?) [14:51]
pascal257 exaktly [14:51]
pascal257 its not like they need money for R&D [14:51]
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pankkake unless R&D means Roulette & Drugs [14:54]
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pascal257 maybe they want to buy that tower they were referring to in the thread [14:55]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-as-replacement-for-the-electoral-system/ [14:59]
ozbot Bitcoin as replacement for the electoral system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [14:59]
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pankkake perhaps I should run Trilema TL;DR edition [15:00]
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pankkake and I'd charge twice as much [15:00]
mircea_popescu go for it. [15:01]
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pankkake "He's just a running dog of the chauvinist male pigs that's all." some hardcore privilege checking action [15:47]
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BigBitz anyone in here have contact with goat ? [16:05]
BigBitz Other than on forums, of course... to verify the forum goat is reall him :) [16:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00399778 = 0.4957 BTC [+] {5} [16:06]
pankkake ooh that Hodor! bet would have been fun :( [16:07]
pankkake not mine, but I wonder who made it [16:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46949999 = 1.4085 BTC [+] [16:08]
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kleinessteak h [16:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00449156 = 0.7321 BTC [+] {5} [16:55]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.002 = 0.3 BTC [+] [17:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.47 = 4.23 BTC [+] [17:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+] [17:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 299 @ 0.00442929 = 1.3244 BTC [+] {3} [17:21]
mod6 ;;ticker [17:21]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 831.005, Best ask: 834.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.99499, Last trade: 834.99999, 24 hour volume: 27334.44247041, 24 hour low: 750.0, 24 hour high: 889.99999, 24 hour vwap: 819.62287 [17:21]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [17:22]
gribble Current Blocks: 271111 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 1048 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 57 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 680489040.31 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.65027 [17:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.47496666 = 2.8498 BTC [+] {3} [17:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.48194432 = 8.675 BTC [+] {4} [17:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.47 = 2.82 BTC [-] [17:32]
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nubbins` hi [17:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00077997 = 3.3149 BTC [+] [17:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+] [18:19]
nubbins` ^ a bit more lethargic this round [18:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00066 = 0.33 BTC [+] [18:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 184 @ 0.00469986 = 0.8648 BTC [+] {5} [18:55]
mircea_popescu http://thecommonsenseshow.com/siteupload/2013/11/school-lunch-fine-10.jpg [18:55]
mircea_popescu lol canada. [18:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00479979 = 0.1488 BTC [+] {2} [18:57]
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mod6 wth lol [18:59]
mod6 "missing food group?" "Fine the sonsofbitches!" [18:59]
mircea_popescu it's like... i'ma fine the center $150 because i don't approve of their off-comic sans font. [19:01]
mircea_popescu according to licensing guidelines i have to do this, sorry. [19:01]
mod6 haha [19:01]
mircea_popescu check or blowjobs ? [19:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54595 BTC [+] [19:02]
mircea_popescu http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/19/obamas-disdain-for-the-constitution-means-we-risk-losing-our-republic/ [19:02]
ozbot Obama's Disdain For The Constitution Means We Risk Losing Our Republic - Forbes [19:02]
mircea_popescu look at forbes go lol [19:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00427 = 0.4142 BTC [-] [19:04]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, "A Republican Party That Can't Win Vs. A Democratic Party That Can't Govern" [19:04]
mircea_popescu quite fucking apt. [19:04]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: the true lel is that the school thinks Ritz crackers are a "grain item" [19:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 981 @ 0.002089 = 2.0493 BTC [+] [19:05]
deadweasel omg [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22699435 = 0.681 BTC [+] {2} [19:07]
nubbins` "your child didn't have a grain item so we charged you $10 and fed them a couple of salty, buttery snack crackers" [19:07]
mircea_popescu "If the President persists in rejecting all authority other than his own, the denouement would depend on the side taken by the Armed Forces. Whatever side that was, our national self-esteem would be unlikely to recover from the blow of finding that we are living in a banana republic." [19:07]
mircea_popescu i love the "if" [19:08]
mircea_popescu baby, you've been living in a banana republic for at least a decade. [19:08]
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asciilifeform 'orlov's stage 3. political collapse.' [19:09]
deadweasel 15 years nao [19:09]
mircea_popescu deadweasel i count with the patriot, personally. [19:09]
deadweasel the patriot? [19:11]
nubbins` http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Patriot_promo_poster.jpg [19:11]
deadweasel i don't think he can count... [19:12]
nubbins` that's why he has to do it with someone else [19:12]
deadweasel ah, mp doing some service work. good on ya. [19:13]
mircea_popescu deadweasel the patriot act, 2001 [19:13]
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deadweasel the godforsaken patriot act... how they were able to keep it going is amazing.... [19:13]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:13]
mircea_popescu myeah. [19:14]
deadweasel well, it surprised me. i thought our reps had some backbone left. [19:14]
deadweasel they don't [19:14]
mircea_popescu i tell you tho, i know of no country that is quite as entertaining. [19:16]
mircea_popescu the us is doing a lot to keep me amused. [19:16]
mod6 when laws are arbitrarily enforced, there is no rule of law. [19:16]
mod6 such selective enforcement is tyranny [19:17]
mircea_popescu that was a racist thjing to say. [19:17]
mircea_popescu and i think also sexually harassing. [19:17]
mod6 "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." [19:17]
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mircea_popescu that's a point. [19:19]
mircea_popescu forbes has an excellent point : it fully depends on which side the army falls on. [19:19]
mircea_popescu so yeah, even if rescued, it'll still be a banana republic. [19:19]
thestringpuller mod6 you free for a minute I"ve been meaning to ask you about bitotter [19:20]
mod6 sure, pm if you wish [19:20]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ [19:43]
ozbot Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:43]
mircea_popescu the quote is, Seems likely at $32 people will worry that higher might be “just a bubble” [19:43]
mircea_popescu this happened. this year. [19:43]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't believe it if i hadn't lived it. [19:43]
mircea_popescu "This impasse has a few possible solutions. [19:46]
mircea_popescu One of them is that consumers yield and submit, Bitcoin goes to somewhere in the thousand dollars per range and there’s a rush to move society away from the dysfunctional standard. Banks start taking Bitcoin deposits, Bitcoin hedge funds pop up everywhere, the FED chairman, ECB chairman and everyone else come to Timisoara whenever they want to make a move to obtain my blessing and so forth." [19:46]
mircea_popescu ha! [19:46]
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jurov` mircea hope you are aware how this sounds [19:55]
mircea_popescu hmm... chauvy ? [19:55]
jurov` heh something like that [19:57]
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mircea_popescu ya well. [19:59]
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nubbins` http://www.flickr.com/photos/drbarclay/11003771625/ [20:11]
ozbot Does anyone understand this? | Flickr - Photo Sharing [20:11]
nubbins` brutal [20:12]
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nubbins` i mean, aside from the fact that john mellencamp and meg ryan are inexplicably christening a city park here [20:12]
mircea_popescu wow theyre old [20:13]
nubbins` how the fuck do you get something like that sentence to print without anyone pointing out the many obvious mistakes in kerning, spelling, hyphen use, and spacing? [20:13]
nubbins` " Thank-you St John's." [20:13]
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nubbins` three mistakes in the first sentence, and it's only four fucking words [20:13]
nubbins` ah, the Garden of M emories [20:14]
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nubbins` it's like they deliberately chose a broken font where the lower-case e is off center [20:14]
nubbins` oh and the overlap on the left side of the quote too [20:15]
nubbins` i have to stop looking [20:15]
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mircea_popescu three mistakes in the first sentence, and it's only four fucking words << you fucking naxi. [20:17]
nubbins` inorite? [20:18]
nubbins` designer was obv a snowflake [20:18]
nubbins` http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-11-23/article-3498958/Castle-owner-feeling-cramped/1 [20:21]
ozbot Castle owner feeling cramped - Local - The Telegram [20:21]
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tulak_ mircea_popescu: I've been browsing your blog and I found something to be quoted: "...This will be maintained and frequently linked as a permanent reminder to people of the cause of their own relative lack of success : it is their lack of discipline and their laziness that keeps them small and insignificant. It certainly is not lack of opportunity that keeps them small and insignificant." Thank you so much for that! [21:25]
mircea_popescu lol yw [21:25]
mircea_popescu iirc that was like 10 btc prize or somesuch [21:26]
tulak_ There is alot of wisdom scattered on your blog [21:26]
tulak_ I've got this strange urge to become your pupil [21:26]
tulak_ Together we can shake the balance of the world [21:26]
mircea_popescu you gotta be a girl, and into anal. [21:27]
tulak_ but I am lazy and insignificant [21:27]
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tulak_ every girl is into anal, secretly [21:27]
mircea_popescu ikr? [21:27]
tulak_ just waiting for my trip to end [21:28]
nubbins` heh [21:29]
nubbins` i submitted like 3 splash screen designs to that [21:29]
Apocalyptic tulak_, you're right for the quote, memorable [21:29]
tulak_ Fits me so well [21:30]
nubbins` TBF i was mostly taking the piss out of it at that point :( [21:30]
tulak_ my lack of discipline will lead to my death eventually [21:30]
nubbins` well if that doesn't, something else will [21:31]
tulak_ lets hope not [21:32]
tulak_ with the help of this channel, I will try to fix myself [21:32]
nubbins` oh god [21:33]
nubbins` http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/abandon-all-hope-ye-who-enter-here.jpg [21:33]
nubbins` that's you in the white [21:33]
tulak_ is that sodom and gomorra [21:33]
tulak_ abandon all hope [21:34]
tulak_ right [21:34]
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tulak_ meh [21:40]
tulak_ why do developers hate other languages and put their favorite language on a fuckin shelf [21:41]
nubbins` because the hardest thing to do is change [21:41]
nubbins` and because some languages are literally pieces of shit [21:41]
mircea_popescu why do people hate french [21:44]
tulak_ nubbins`: do you refer to php? :D [21:44]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: je ne sais pas [21:48]
nubbins` parce-que c'est une langue avec trop de particularites? :( [21:49]
nubbins` altho as a native english speaker, that's a pretty cheeky response [21:49]
tulak_ ah, parle francais maintenant [21:50]
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nubbins` i also generally dislike languages with gendered nouns, although there are exceptions to this [21:58]
nubbins` french is just a perfect storm of gendered nouns and "take a guess!" pronunciation [21:58]
tulak_ well I was referring to programming languages [21:59]
tulak_ but french is just well [21:59]
tulak_ accents n stuff [21:59]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you kidding, all languages worth speaking use declension [22:00]
mircea_popescu it's teh way of teh latin [22:00]
nubbins` yeah, because it matters if the book is a boy or a girl [22:00]
* nubbins` shakes head [22:00]
mircea_popescu it does! [22:01]
nubbins` anyway it's just the gendering of nouns that gets me [22:01]
nubbins` otherwise declension is great [22:01]
mircea_popescu for instance cock is feminine! [22:01]
nubbins` korean, you hardly need to even order your words [22:01]
nubbins` you can just say them all in whatever order you want [22:01]
nubbins` in practice, people don't, because thats retarded [22:02]
nubbins` but it's all suffixes [22:02]
nubbins` but korean is an even more fringe case than french [22:03]
nubbins` 3 modes of speech [22:03]
nubbins` many words change based on whether the speaker (not the subject or object) is male or female [22:03]
nubbins` etc [22:03]
tulak_ this might sound off [22:04]
tulak_ well. forget about it [22:05]
jurov` nubbins`: the last thing is the case in czech, slovak, russian, etc. [22:05]
tulak_ I was being a retard with bitbet [22:06]
tulak_ now I lost 0.009 btc, better open up a thread on bitcointalk and start bitching [22:06]
nubbins` bummer [22:06]
nubbins` jurov, russian doesn't use articles either iirc [22:06]
mircea_popescu jurov` yep, can't say "i've been raped" until you specify whether you were married, how tall you were, if it was cold outside and so on [22:06]
mircea_popescu very practical languages, these slavic things :D [22:07]
nubbins` how tall you were at the time of the incident! [22:07]
nubbins` korean writing system is top-notch tho [22:07]
nubbins` as far as romance languages go, spanish (as spoken in this hemisphere) is pretty good [22:08]
nubbins` predictable pronunciation [22:08]
nubbins` take the french word "ennuyeux". what a fucking train wreck [22:08]
tulak_ ORDINATEUR [22:08]
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tulak_ i cannot say ordinateur without making a face like a follower of dschinghis khan [22:09]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what's the problem with ennuyeux ? [22:09]
mircea_popescu replace the i in ennui with yeux and you're done [22:09]
nubbins` it looks and sounds like two different piles of shit is the problem [22:10]
nubbins` yeux is no better [22:10]
nubbins` hereux [22:10]
nubbins` most of the x ones [22:10]
mircea_popescu yeux is it's own thing. [22:10]
mircea_popescu not related to the rest of euxes. [22:10]
nubbins` creme glacee des yeux! [22:10]
nubbins` ^ the day i heard this was the day i realized puns don't translate [22:11]
mircea_popescu well it's eye icecream [22:12]
nubbins` eyes cream! [22:12]
mircea_popescu mno, glacee makes it be icecream [22:12]
nubbins` http://electrozombies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/eyes_cream.jpg [22:12]
nubbins` well that's because puns don't translate [22:12]
nubbins` and while "eyes cream" is punny [22:12]
nubbins` "ice cream of eyes" is certainly not [22:12]
nubbins` http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/249/5/2/eyes_cream_by_cuboidal-d5du6d1.png [22:13]
nubbins` (seriously, eyes cream is like a halloween staple for english kids) [22:13]
nubbins` anyway, i'm glad i know some french. not because of its inherent beauty or anything, but because it's a useful skill [22:16]
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jurov` so much for fixing themselves. [22:18]
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KRS- What the hell does this have to do with aerobics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRerwXWTRjM [22:24]
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nubbins` hahahahha [22:30]
nubbins` if you ever want to tell someone how many men you were robbed by, that video is a great start [22:36]
KRS- I was wobbed by two men. [22:36]
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tulak_ For I have returned [22:47]
tulak_ A proper Sith has to build him a power structure. But where shall I begin? [22:48]
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tulak_ Sir mircea_popescu, are you still available for counseling? [22:50]
mircea_popescu say wut ? [22:51]
tulak_ dude [22:52]
tulak_ I come here because MPOE-PR said you can learn stuff in here [22:52]
tulak_ in contrast to bitcointalk [22:52]
tulak_ where u learn nix [22:52]
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mircea_popescu so learn. [22:53]
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jurov` this isn't school where wisdom is imparted from above [22:56]
jurov` either lurk moar or try seriously figuring out what to do with your life and discuss [22:57]
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jurov` but take into account life is a mess and have fun [22:58]
KRS- tulak you can try the logs too in order to catch up [22:58]
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tulak_ jurov`: discuss my life in this very chat? [23:01]
jurov` no, your projects suffice :) [23:01]
deadweasel yes, oversharing is my job. [23:02]
tulak_ That's the sad aprt. [23:02]
tulak_ part* [23:02]
tulak_ I lack any real projects, thats why I ran headfirst into java again [23:02]
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tulak_ I want to become proficient with coding [23:03]
deadweasel contribute to a project? [23:03]
jurov` i started by adopting an opensource project..after you learn some coding find some small project you like [23:03]
tulak_ doing this for a start: https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/javaee/ecommerce/intro.html [23:03]
jurov` you may consider http://landoflisp.com/, too. i found it only recently but it's delightful [23:06]
jurov` and all languages share similar primitives like lisp [23:06]
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jurov` i don't mean to detract you from java, you can try both ;) [23:09]
jurov` *should [23:09]
tulak_ I'm happy for any advice [23:09]
tulak_ I have a c++, java, php background, but did most of my stuff in php. a thing I regret now [23:09]
tulak_ well you can't really call it a background ,because of my lack of discipline [23:10]
tulak_ & never finished something big [23:10]
gribble Error: "never" is not a valid command. [23:10]
jurov` no need to bash yourself, 10 years ago i did not have a discipline even for proper fkn hacking [23:11]
jurov` so got an admin job, they sat me right next to toilet [23:11]
jurov` :D [23:11]
jurov` and over years, i kinda learned [23:11]
tulak_ i'm at university [23:11]
tulak_ so I have plenty of time to dive into languages [23:12]
tulak_ and yet I play computergames most of the time ^^ [23:12]
jurov` so what. linus did that too [23:13]
jurov` then he took on improving his terminal emulator [23:13]
jurov` and here we are, glorified terminal emulator running all the stuff [23:14]
tulak_ i' [23:14]
tulak_ i'm not looking for excuses [23:14]
tulak_ I just want to be useful and earn money (someday) [23:15]
jurov` so, next time something bugs you sink your teeth in and fix it. that's all. [23:15]
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jurov` fixing things gets addictive [23:16]
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KRS- merge that fun with money and bam [23:18]
KRS- what a sweet combo [23:18]
tulak_ well I'm stuck in a loophole [23:18]
KRS- why [23:19]
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tulak_ read about a good programming language, try it out. read about someone bashing said language, try a new language, do basic stuff, read about another language try that out. so far i have tried, ruby, php, scala, javascript, java, c++. i keep on switching, cannot settle down with one lol [23:19]
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deadweasel you needs a project before you need a language? [23:20]
tulak_ true [23:20]
deadweasel if the project doesn't drive you, the language won't [23:20]
jurov` yes, do the fixing then, not easy to switch [23:21]
deadweasel fix my nix [23:21]
jurov` although, people do try rewrite stuff all the time... but eventually they learn [23:21]
deadweasel they are paying for bugfixes now aren't they? [23:21]
jurov` who? [23:22]
deadweasel https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CEwQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fnews%2Fgoogle-bug-bounty-security-chrome%2C14686.html&ei=lhyRUtfHIs3rkAePpoCgBw&usg=AFQjCNGH-g53p5GJoBgbIhKvS9TSZRMNhw&sig2=Ya7z8GnnvzdkqWjdyq0vBg&bvm=bv.56988011,d.eW0 [23:22]
jurov` srsly, sending noob programmer to fix bugs in chrome? [23:23]
deadweasel http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/19/microsoft-finally-offers-to-pay-hackers-for-security-bugs-with-100000-bounty/ [23:24]
ozbot Microsoft Finally Offers To Pay Hackers For Security Bugs With $100,000 Bounty - Forbes [23:24]
deadweasel start easy [23:24]
tulak_ I will gnaw through this java ee tutorial first i guess [23:24]
tulak_ I want to do webstuff after all [23:24]
tulak_ man im confused [23:26]
jurov` i'd recommend something simpler (such as that lisp i mentioned above), j2ee is mishmash of technologies, not easy to comprehend [23:27]
KRS- you cant go wrong with c dude.. [23:30]
KRS- should be a great foundation [23:31]
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tulak_ but c is only console stuff :/ [23:31]
tulak_ well to me it is [23:31]
tulak_ never done more than console stuff :( calculate loans etc :D [23:32]
jurov` and this is a problem? [23:33]
tulak_ you are right [23:34]
tulak_ there is no problem with that [23:34]
tulak_ http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ [23:34]
ozbot Learn C The Hard Way [23:34]
tulak_ I'm just awfully confused what I want to do with coding in the future [23:35]
tulak_ i was limited to webdesign until now [23:35]
tulak_ and I think that is part of my problem now [23:38]
jurov` what kind of webdesign? actually doing layout in CSS? [23:38]
tulak_ more backend stuff [23:40]
tulak_ but I'm a shithole and securing my webapplications [23:40]
tulak_ at* [23:41]
tulak_ im browsing c++ repositories on github right now [23:41]
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